February 12, 2026 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB) Please Stop/Blame a Karen/That About Wraps it Up for Shops/Valentines Shambles/Podcast Roulette
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Helloon, my beautiful beanie, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of Yesterday's news. I am Glen Harten. We are
looking back at Thursday and we need to talk child
abuse because somebody's got to be in charge of it,
and it looks like it might be Karen Shaw the
under the hammer this time. Why do people go to
(00:47):
shops anymore than just wants to know? Hecuse some Valantine
Valentine's Day Chat with Valentine's Today, Eve Today, and I
think this is a first. We're going to do podcast
through Liz, but we're going to do it with hither
(01:07):
is an unusual turn of events. More on that at
the end of the pot at the beginning of the pod, though,
this COVID inquiry, the one that's specifically dealing with the
Reserve Bank.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
When you look at the at the children and education
and schooling, what was the cost there? It might have
been worth it, That's what we might find. I might
have to agree that for all my moaning and bitching
and railing under the restrictions. They were the right decisions
(01:43):
to make, and I might have to accept that, but
I don't really feel we've got a clear analysis of
the decisions made and whether they were worth it. I mean,
perhaps there has been I just haven't been willing to
hear them, but I can't recall seeing anything set out
laid out simply, clearly, concisely, critically and coolly. And that's
(02:07):
what I'd really love to say. Oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. I'd really love
to get your thoughts on this. I mean, i'd bet
there are some of you, probably in the South Island,
who think, oh, for God's sake, what a waste of
body time? This again, And I don't blame you. I'd
love to be in that position, I really would, so
(02:31):
you might think it's completely not a waste of time.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I would go further. And I have said this before,
but every time I hear people talking about this stuff,
there's a little bit of PTSD and I want it
to be behind us. And I know that we're supposed
to be prepared and learn lessons and all the rest
of it, but I just don't want to think about
(02:55):
how horrendous. It was coming into work day after day
when nobody else is able to go into work and
watch my host on the breakfast here become embittered about
the people in charge and how they were dealing with
(03:15):
everything for month after month. I don't I want that
to be over. Please stop digging it up and rehashing it.
News Talk Zeth been right. Sorry, I've got a bit
intense there, so let's talk child abuse instead.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Parent Shaw, herself a product of the foster care system, criticized,
didn't attend or didn't do any interviews. Apparently yesterday, during
the day she was busy attended a pre planned lunch
event to eat some lamb on Parliament's lawn. Criticized for this,
She should have, according to this rn Z story, presumably
been inside answering questions about why more wasn't being done
(03:58):
about this boy's murder, which you might recall was back
in twenty twenty one. Calvin Davis, you may recall, also
came in for a hammering from the media when he
was minister. So I think we should all be really
clear at the outset. Neither Karen nor Calvin nor any
politician is responsible for the.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Deaths of babies.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
The fact we have no culprit for the death of
baby ru in the hut is you could say the
fault of the police. But ultimately, as with all of
these cases, fault lies with those who do the killing
and those who do the covering up. You know, the
family who don't speak to police, the partner who won't
dob in their other half. The are the real culprits here. Yes,
(04:39):
there are things we can learn, things we can do,
things that can change. We can change the name of
an agency. God We've done that enough times. We can
add a red flag system here, we can appoint a
children's commissioner there. But ultimately does any of it do
any good? We average around ten or eleven kids killed
by homicide every year in New Zealand. Ask ot or
(05:00):
sifts before them, and they'll tell you that reports of
abuse seem to be trending down, but they have a
new thing called reports of concern. They are going up.
We actually don't know for certain if this is getting
better or worse because there's apparently a data lag. I
know it's an incredible thing to have a data lag on,
but here we are. You would have to say, though,
on the whole. The pictures not rosy, and no amount
(05:23):
of stalking MPs around Parliament is going to fix it.
Any fix surely has to be in the home.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
But it's just so much easier if we can just
blame one person for it. My only real problem with
Karen Shaw is all the h's in your last name.
It's very confusing. Ar I can never remember which letter
it is that I'm supposed to be repeating. Unusual name.
Q's talk zib Right now. We are doing podcasts rough
(05:51):
let today, but not with Marcus so because he just
wants to talk about.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Shops while we're still bothering with shops when it seems
as though pretty much they've given up. I think, if
there's there's any product that you can now buy online
because they've got a good online shop that works well,
(06:18):
you would be crazy to try and buy those goods locally,
particularly if you live in a smaller center no one
carries the stock. I had to go buy a fairly
straightfood item today after five shops, I went home and
bought an online ten percent discount, no forty percent discount,
(06:40):
thirty percent discount, then ten percent discount for new customers.
I thought, why do people bother with shops? What's the
point of shops? There is no point. There is literally
no point. The staff look unhappy.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
There's no reason.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
But when we go into look, I don't and I
don't know what the final I don't know what the
final store is. But yeah, I think for more and
more of us. I mean, if we go time and
time again and don't find the thing we're looking for,
we just give up. Now, I'm not saying this is
good or bad or in a grizzly way. I'm probably
actually angry with myself the fact that I thought that
shops would still sell things I wanted to buy. And
(07:22):
I don't find buying online unbelievably straightforward. What happens for
me That three digit number always wears off the other
side of my debit card. But yeah, I just think
I think the death of retail and I think we're
(07:43):
in the first twenty percent of it. When it happens,
it's going to happen very very quickly, because there's no
good will left for shops.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That's my take on it. Wow, full on, it's shoes,
isn't it. Shoes is the one that people always bring up.
You've got to try on shoes. You can't just buy
shoes online until they can really standardize shoe sizes, which
they'd never seem to have been able to do even
I mean, we've been wearing shoes as a species for
a long time now, and yet no two shoemakers seem
(08:16):
to be able to agree on exactly how to size
them consistently, which is odd. I will buy them online
if I'm just replacing like for like, obviously, you know,
because you find a certain kind of shoe, especially you
know you're exercising shoe. If there's one that's working for you,
you want that same one again. And even then you
(08:36):
can't do that because then they update them every year
and sometimes the new ones aren't as good as the
old ones. What's up with the shoemakers, That's what I'm asking?
What have got a bit off topic?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
It?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Right? So? Is it Matt and Tyler doing podcast?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Really?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
It today? No? No, it isn't. All they were talking
about was Valentine's Day, which is tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
As this also gets to the game at Edon Park.
I mean that is I said, where we got that
beautiful cake? That's a very romantic idea Auckland The Chiefs.
That's going to be a fantastic game and a lovely
night out for Valentine's Day. So maybe you might you
might want.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
To you might want to go out to dinner before
that or something.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Have you you've locked down? Have you you thought aboutless
weeks ago?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I booked this a month ago. Oh my god, I
got an advance. I booked this a month ago, and
I booked it a month ago, but messed up and
booked it four a month ago when I booked it
a month ago. So I booked it on jan fourteen,
and the restaurant rang me up and said, are you
sure you didn't mean February fourteen.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Well that's good of them, it's really good of them.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
But yeah, I booked a month there. So I'm a
better person than you, and who loves his partner more
than you love yours.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Why didn't you tell me a month ago?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Those guys are complete shambles a those guys. I think
that's why we love listening to them. I'm starting to
suspect that they lived their lives in a complete shambles
just for effect for the show, which is very dedicated
of them. The trouble with Valentine's is it does put
(10:03):
a lot of pressure on relationships. It's almost I do
wonder if it achieved the old sort of what it's
supposed to like. It's supposed to be a nice day
where you know, you focus on each other and you know,
the romantic together. But I'd like to see the stats
on how many relationships end because of a Valentine's Day
stuff up. I reckon it would be higher than your
(10:26):
average day us talk it. Okay, here we go Podcast
Roulette with Heather Dupa c Ellen no less because the
cat I have been sent from her producer is simply
called the blind cord editorial. Yeah, and I had no
idea what that means, but I'm about to find out. Right.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
So, in the space of less than one day, a
coroner has called for regulations to make corded blinds safe
for toddlers.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Oh no, that was that was a huge mistake. That's
completely blown up in my face. Of course I should
have seen that coming. What was I thinking, Yeah, we're
not listening to any more of that. I can't. I
can't even the podcast on that. Oh d ye, See
this is and this is what happens when you play
podcasts roulet. Sometimes it blows up in your face. That's
(11:15):
that's the beauty of it, and also the tricksy of it.
I am you know, I could have just gone back
and completely redone that. I mean, I'm literally in charge
of mixing this podcast, making it. But that's not how
I roll. When you play podcast relet, you live with
or die with the consequences. See you're back here again
(11:42):
with a week in edition of Newsbalks. It'd been I
hope we don't play podcasts relate for a week in edition.
Actually now I'm a bit scared of it.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Now used talking Talking Been for more from News Talk,
said B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said, be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Helloon, my beautiful beanie, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of Yesterday's news. I am Glen Harten. We are
looking back at Thursday and we need to talk child
abuse because somebody's got to be in charge of it,
and it looks like it might be Karen Shaw the
under the hammer this time. Why do people go to
(00:47):
shops anymore than just wants to know? Hecuse some Valantine
Valentine's Day Chat with Valentine's Today, Eve Today, and I
think this is a first. We're going to do podcast
through Liz, but we're going to do it with hither
(01:07):
is an unusual turn of events. More on that at
the end of the pot at the beginning of the pod, though,
this COVID inquiry, the one that's specifically dealing with the
Reserve Bank.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
When you look at the at the children and education
and schooling, what was the cost there? It might have
been worth it, That's what we might find. I might
have to agree that for all my moaning and bitching
and railing under the restrictions. They were the right decisions
(01:43):
to make, and I might have to accept that, but
I don't really feel we've got a clear analysis of
the decisions made and whether they were worth it. I mean,
perhaps there has been I just haven't been willing to
hear them, but I can't recall seeing anything set out
laid out simply, clearly, concisely, critically and coolly. And that's
(02:07):
what I'd really love to say. Oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. I'd really love
to get your thoughts on this. I mean, i'd bet
there are some of you, probably in the South Island,
who think, oh, for God's sake, what a waste of
body time? This again, And I don't blame you. I'd
love to be in that position, I really would, so
(02:31):
you might think it's completely not a waste of time.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I would go further. And I have said this before,
but every time I hear people talking about this stuff,
there's a little bit of PTSD and I want it
to be behind us. And I know that we're supposed
to be prepared and learn lessons and all the rest
of it, but I just don't want to think about
(02:55):
how horrendous. It was coming into work day after day
when nobody else is able to go into work and
watch my host on the breakfast here become embittered about
the people in charge and how they were dealing with
(03:15):
everything for month after month. I don't I want that
to be over. Please stop digging it up and rehashing it.
News Talk Zeth been right. Sorry, I've got a bit
intense there, so let's talk child abuse instead.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Parent Shaw, herself a product of the foster care system, criticized,
didn't attend or didn't do any interviews. Apparently yesterday, during
the day she was busy attended a pre planned lunch
event to eat some lamb on Parliament's lawn. Criticized for this,
She should have, according to this rn Z story, presumably
been inside answering questions about why more wasn't being done
(03:58):
about this boy's murder, which you might recall was back
in twenty twenty one. Calvin Davis, you may recall, also
came in for a hammering from the media when he
was minister. So I think we should all be really
clear at the outset. Neither Karen nor Calvin nor any
politician is responsible for the.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Deaths of babies.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
The fact we have no culprit for the death of
baby ru in the hut is you could say the
fault of the police. But ultimately, as with all of
these cases, fault lies with those who do the killing
and those who do the covering up. You know, the
family who don't speak to police, the partner who won't
dob in their other half. The are the real culprits here. Yes,
(04:39):
there are things we can learn, things we can do,
things that can change. We can change the name of
an agency. God We've done that enough times. We can
add a red flag system here, we can appoint a
children's commissioner there. But ultimately does any of it do
any good? We average around ten or eleven kids killed
by homicide every year in New Zealand. Ask ot or
(05:00):
sifts before them, and they'll tell you that reports of
abuse seem to be trending down, but they have a
new thing called reports of concern. They are going up.
We actually don't know for certain if this is getting
better or worse because there's apparently a data lag. I
know it's an incredible thing to have a data lag on,
but here we are. You would have to say, though,
on the whole. The pictures not rosy, and no amount
(05:23):
of stalking MPs around Parliament is going to fix it.
Any fix surely has to be in the home.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
But it's just so much easier if we can just
blame one person for it. My only real problem with
Karen Shaw is all the h's in your last name.
It's very confusing. Ar I can never remember which letter
it is that I'm supposed to be repeating. Unusual name.
Q's talk zib Right now. We are doing podcasts rough
(05:51):
let today, but not with Marcus so because he just
wants to talk about.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Shops while we're still bothering with shops when it seems
as though pretty much they've given up. I think, if
there's there's any product that you can now buy online
because they've got a good online shop that works well,
(06:18):
you would be crazy to try and buy those goods locally,
particularly if you live in a smaller center no one
carries the stock. I had to go buy a fairly
straightfood item today after five shops, I went home and
bought an online ten percent discount, no forty percent discount,
(06:40):
thirty percent discount, then ten percent discount for new customers.
I thought, why do people bother with shops? What's the
point of shops? There is no point. There is literally
no point. The staff look unhappy.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
There's no reason.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
But when we go into look, I don't and I
don't know what the final I don't know what the
final store is. But yeah, I think for more and
more of us. I mean, if we go time and
time again and don't find the thing we're looking for,
we just give up. Now, I'm not saying this is
good or bad or in a grizzly way. I'm probably
actually angry with myself the fact that I thought that
shops would still sell things I wanted to buy. And
(07:22):
I don't find buying online unbelievably straightforward. What happens for
me That three digit number always wears off the other
side of my debit card. But yeah, I just think
I think the death of retail and I think we're
(07:43):
in the first twenty percent of it. When it happens,
it's going to happen very very quickly, because there's no
good will left for shops.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That's my take on it. Wow, full on, it's shoes,
isn't it. Shoes is the one that people always bring up.
You've got to try on shoes. You can't just buy
shoes online until they can really standardize shoe sizes, which
they'd never seem to have been able to do even
I mean, we've been wearing shoes as a species for
a long time now, and yet no two shoemakers seem
(08:16):
to be able to agree on exactly how to size
them consistently, which is odd. I will buy them online
if I'm just replacing like for like, obviously, you know,
because you find a certain kind of shoe, especially you
know you're exercising shoe. If there's one that's working for you,
you want that same one again. And even then you
(08:36):
can't do that because then they update them every year
and sometimes the new ones aren't as good as the
old ones. What's up with the shoemakers, That's what I'm asking?
What have got a bit off topic?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
It?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Right? So? Is it Matt and Tyler doing podcast?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Really?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
It today? No? No, it isn't. All they were talking
about was Valentine's Day, which is tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
As this also gets to the game at Edon Park.
I mean that is I said, where we got that
beautiful cake? That's a very romantic idea Auckland The Chiefs.
That's going to be a fantastic game and a lovely
night out for Valentine's Day. So maybe you might you
might want.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
To you might want to go out to dinner before
that or something.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Have you you've locked down? Have you you thought aboutless
weeks ago?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I booked this a month ago. Oh my god, I
got an advance. I booked this a month ago, and
I booked it a month ago, but messed up and
booked it four a month ago when I booked it
a month ago. So I booked it on jan fourteen,
and the restaurant rang me up and said, are you
sure you didn't mean February fourteen.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Well that's good of them, it's really good of them.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
But yeah, I booked a month there. So I'm a
better person than you, and who loves his partner more
than you love yours.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Why didn't you tell me a month ago?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Those guys are complete shambles a those guys. I think
that's why we love listening to them. I'm starting to
suspect that they lived their lives in a complete shambles
just for effect for the show, which is very dedicated
of them. The trouble with Valentine's is it does put
(10:03):
a lot of pressure on relationships. It's almost I do
wonder if it achieved the old sort of what it's
supposed to like. It's supposed to be a nice day
where you know, you focus on each other and you know,
the romantic together. But I'd like to see the stats
on how many relationships end because of a Valentine's Day
stuff up. I reckon it would be higher than your
(10:26):
average day us talk it. Okay, here we go Podcast
Roulette with Heather Dupa c Ellen no less because the
cat I have been sent from her producer is simply
called the blind cord editorial. Yeah, and I had no
idea what that means, but I'm about to find out. Right.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
So, in the space of less than one day, a
coroner has called for regulations to make corded blinds safe
for toddlers.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Oh no, that was that was a huge mistake. That's
completely blown up in my face. Of course I should
have seen that coming. What was I thinking, Yeah, we're
not listening to any more of that. I can't. I
can't even the podcast on that. Oh d ye, See
this is and this is what happens when you play
podcasts roulet. Sometimes it blows up in your face. That's
(11:15):
that's the beauty of it, and also the tricksy of it.
I am you know, I could have just gone back
and completely redone that. I mean, I'm literally in charge
of mixing this podcast, making it. But that's not how
I roll. When you play podcast relet, you live with
or die with the consequences. See you're back here again
(11:42):
with a week in edition of Newsbalks. It'd been I
hope we don't play podcasts relate for a week in edition.
Actually now I'm a bit scared of it.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Now used talking Talking Been for more from News Talk,
said B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
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