June 24, 2026 • 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said B.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, I'm my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean
for Thursday. First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart,
and we're looking back at Wednesday superannuation. Labor is going
to leave it alone, so their policy on that seems
to be no policy on that. This banning of filming
(00:47):
at Aukland, grammar rugby games, what's all that about? And
a little word on AI and can you believe anything
you ever here ce read from the news anymore? But
before any of that, more polling which may or may
not mean anything, showing that the hot party at the
(01:11):
moment is top top, so hot right now.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
If you've got a bet with someone that opportunity is
not going to make it into Parliament, you might want
to renegotiate the terms of that bet because I think
the chances are going up fast at the moment. Four
point six percent is unbelievably close to smashing the biggest
obstacle they've got, which is the wasted vote problem. Voters
don't like to waste their vote. We know this, so
they half the poll over five percent for a few
(01:35):
weeks before the election to convince voters, and they are
nearly there. They are nearly there, and things are going
in their favor at the moment because Labour sucks, it's
running out tired all policies. Who in the left likes
that the Greens are making basic maths mistakes. So if
you are a left wing voter and the two existing
credible left wing parties are being losers, why wouldn't you
(01:56):
think about voting for a different one? Opportunity? And voting
opportunity is actually, when you think about it, the most
likely way to get a change of government if you're
a left wing voter, because they will immediately add six
extra seats to the left. Also National on twenty nine.
Now that is a trend across multiple poles. And by
the way, this is a poll that generally puts National
higher than the other poles. So I would say National's
(02:17):
got a big problem. And if you weren't aware of
that beforehand, now you are.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And Act?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
What is going on with Act six percent down one?
I mean Act at six percent is almost half of
New Zealand first at eleven are they even trying anymore.
At eleven percent in rising, Winston is the only party
going up in this government now. My biggest takeaway from
this poll is that I have never believed there would
be a change of government in November. I have also
(02:43):
never believed that Opportunity would get into parliament. But I
think I might be wrong about the second one. And
if I'm wrong about the second one, am I then
also wrong about the first one? That pole should worry
the coalition government enough to wake up two thirds of
it and get their vote up.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Of course, people should only be worried about things if
people think that poles mean anything these days? And can it?
We just point out, I don't know a series of
US election results, the Breckxit result, the UK election result.
(03:21):
Why do we have to keep pointing out that pole's
useless because nobody wants to do them and you can't
do them because you can't get a proper response from them.
So they are the numbers just don't add up news
talk zip bean anyway. Let's say people are into the
Opportunity's Party. When they say that, do they really know
(03:45):
anything about it?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I think the Opportuniti's Party was started by Gareth Morgan
who was also keen to get rid of cats, but
I don't know. I think he wore two hats. I
think one hat was the anti cat hat, the other
cat was. One hat was the anti heck cat, the
other hat was the Opportunity Party's cat cat. I'm going
(04:07):
to try and say again, one hat was the anti
cat hat and the other hat was the Opportunity Party hat.
So a cat hat and a change of government hat.
I don't know that he's still involved, and from what
I've seen of the leader of the party and haven't
done a deep dive on their policy yet, but what
(04:31):
I understand is that the new party is about tax
reform and stuff. I don't think they're about cats. But
I guess if you want a reason not to vote
for them and cats as your reason, then I can't
(04:54):
push back on that because I don't know. I mean,
that's kind of what it's like, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So we're looking for some anti cat hat pushback? Is
that what we're That was fun listen to that, But
I feel like I did better with my top so
hot sentence than he did with the anti cat hat cap.
But yeah, I think that is a clear so we
(05:19):
remember Gareth Morgan, who I think wrote off into the
sunset on his motorbike, and I think there have been
several leaders since then. But although I did hear the
name of the current leader of Top and the News yesterday,
I now can't remember who that person is or what
their neighbor is. And I work in the news sort dogs.
(05:46):
That would really be my first follow up question to
anybody who says I'm voting for the Opportunities Party when
they answer a pole, is do you know who the
leader of the Opportunities Party is or any of the
other people in the Opportunities Party you talk sib The
leader of the Labor Party is still Chris Hiptoms and
Ryan thought he said some interesting stuff about superannuation the other.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Day yesterday he said, labor will not change the age
of entitlement, will not means test ended, super will not
cut it, will not touch it, and will keep it
full indefinitely. Big call, big thing to say. We currently
have around four people working to support every pensioner. That
will be two workers for every pensioner within the next
(06:30):
ten to twenty years. Anyone with half a brain can
see this thing is not sustainable in full forever and
don't get me wrong. I don't want to cut any
more than anyone else. I want to get the full
entitlement when I hit sixty five, Thank you very much,
But I know it's probably not going to happen. I
recall following Phil Goff on the campaign trail back in
twenty eleven. It was a hospital pass. He was all
(06:52):
about making the hard decisions for tomorrow today. That was
his catch cry. Well, Chippy is running from that motto,
quicker than Usain Bolton the pair of Nikes. What he's
doing here is making a pretty blunt political assessment. I
reckon this will win us some work class votes and
keep us competitive with Winston and National. He's going after laborers.
(07:14):
He's going after workers who are outside who can't wait
till sixty five to retire, let alone sixty seven. He's
going after low wage workers who can barely afford groceries
right now, let alone an extra three and a half
percent on compulsory key we saver. You could argue that
this is smart politics, pick a point of difference, hammer
at home. The risk for labor though here is massive
(07:38):
because tax is there. Achilles Heel telling people you will
keep an unterfundable, expensive universal program forever will leave them wondering, well,
who's going to pay for that? Who will be taxed next?
And once you add in the pay equity claims up
to thirteen billion dollars, the gap starts to look more
like well, big black holes.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I mean, I think the problem that we've got more
and more old people all the time, and there just
seems to be no end to them. It is a
tricky one. I mean, you've heard my policy in the
past of never ever, ever, never, never, never ever never
(08:22):
have children because you know, young people. We don't like
young people. They cause a lot of problems, don't they know,
use clime and the like, and education that always seems
to be an issue. And we don't like old people
because they cost us too much of the too expensive.
Can you just have a country that's just the people
(08:44):
in the middle, and how do we get rid of
all the others? This is starting to sound a bit
like Nazi Germany. Uncomfortably like Nazi Germany, isn't it. I
think we should move on, right. So what's going on
on the sidelines of auckland Grammar's rugby games. Well, there's
no filming. That's for sure.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Auckland Grammars move to ban a content from filming its
first fifteen it has spark debate over student privacy versus
modern sports coverage. Critics call it out a step with
how most schools now promote their teams. But a lot
of supporters coming through for this online content creator who
goes by the name HS Top two hundred. He's got Facebook, YouTube,
(09:26):
his own website, a lot of work involved, and.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Of course the HTS stands for high school so HS
top two hundred dot com is the website, as you say,
And he's also on YouTube and Instagram, and his name
is herschel Fruen.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And you know, whatever you think of.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
This particular discussion and whether Auckland Grammar should have banned
him from filming or not, you've got to say when
you go to his content, he's putting a lot of
effort into.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
It, and it is.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
A celebration of high school rugby. That's the only way
you'd be able to describe it. But I know that's
not the only issue at hand.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Andrew Tyler, how you going very well? What's your thoughts?
Speaker 8 (10:07):
Hey? You look like when to a premiere last night
on Jonah Lomu called Lomu out at Menico Events Center.
Oh yeah, right at the highlights the Wizard College, Old Boy. Look,
have there not been video footage of nineteen ninety when
Jonah made our first of theeen that was given to
Laurie Meines? Jonah may not have ever been discovered.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well that's quite an interesting point, isn't it. And that's
from really before we had social media, well before, so
this has been going on for a long time. I
don't think I'm going back to this whole young person thing,
which I think we will agreed we're against them. I
(10:51):
think you'd be struggling to find one who doesn't want
to be filmed. I'm pretty sure. Aren't they just filming
themselves all the time? Anyway? I don't think they have
any privacy concerns. I think privacy died a long time ago,
didn't it.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
News talk has been and it's not.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Just privacy that's dead. I think truth, reality, those things
have gone away, haven't they because of AI. It's just
I mean the news, yes, fake, but does that matter?
Speaker 9 (11:29):
She showed me that wasn't even using particularly sophisticated AI.
You know, this was just a series of images of
random people in the pope like mum, No, no, it's
simply not true. He did not taken his alcoholic friend
from America and put him up in the papal chambers
and get him sorted and reunite him with his family
(11:50):
within the first week of his papacy. How would you know?
She said, we'll have a look at the papal calendar,
and you know, no, no, no, And she's not a
stupid woman. She just wants to believe nice stories. So
how do you know what is real and what is not?
Have you been caught up before? I mean, if it's
(12:10):
there for entertainment, if you know it's there for entertainment,
you can enjoy it and jog on. But it does
get damaging, It does get harmful when you believe that
my costing is offering cryptocurrency investment advice. People have been
taken in by politicians who are deep fakes, media personalities
(12:32):
who are deep fakes. When you lose your money, when
you are the victim of it, when you wake up
one morning to find out that you're supposed to be dead,
I mean disconcerting, to say the very very least, And
then having to tell people know I'm very much alive,
and as we head into an election, how do you
(12:55):
know what is real and what is not? When you
look at all the information you're consuming across all the
different media, how do you know what's true?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
The crazy thing is, as I was driving into work
this morning, I was listening to a podcast which is
a q A A is the name of the podcast,
and it's about conspiracy theories and debunking conspiracy theories. But
they were doing a particular episode on Ai slop, which
(13:25):
is the stuff that Kerry was talking about. Right there.
Ali generated content that some people can't seem to tell
as AI. And what a wacky coincidence that they were
talking about that and Kerry was talking about that. What
are the chances or we're either of those people talking
about that? Hmm. This is what I'm saying. This is
(13:49):
the awesome thing about living in the world today. We
could choose our own reality. We can make it up
as we go along. Don't you think that's awesome? See
in my world, this has been a fantastic podcast and
hundreds of thousands of people will tune into it again tomorrow.
(14:11):
If your world matches up into six with with my take,
I'll see you back here, then you don't care whether
I'm a AI or not. Do a little bit more,
you know, hot top cat hat cat back chat. Who
(14:36):
wouldn't tune in?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Back back to that used talking talking it been for
more from used talk, said B. Listen live on air
or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you
go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk said B Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, I'm my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean
for Thursday. First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart,
and we're looking back at Wednesday superannuation. Labor is going
to leave it alone, so their policy on that seems
to be no policy on that. This banning of filming
(00:47):
at Aukland, grammar rugby games, what's all that about? And
a little word on AI and can you believe anything
you ever here ce read from the news anymore? But
before any of that, more polling which may or may
not mean anything, showing that the hot party at the
(01:11):
moment is top top, so hot right now.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
If you've got a bet with someone that opportunity is
not going to make it into Parliament, you might want
to renegotiate the terms of that bet because I think
the chances are going up fast at the moment. Four
point six percent is unbelievably close to smashing the biggest
obstacle they've got, which is the wasted vote problem. Voters
don't like to waste their vote. We know this, so
they half the poll over five percent for a few
(01:35):
weeks before the election to convince voters, and they are
nearly there. They are nearly there, and things are going
in their favor at the moment because Labour sucks, it's
running out tired all policies. Who in the left likes
that the Greens are making basic maths mistakes. So if
you are a left wing voter and the two existing
credible left wing parties are being losers, why wouldn't you
(01:56):
think about voting for a different one? Opportunity? And voting
opportunity is actually, when you think about it, the most
likely way to get a change of government if you're
a left wing voter, because they will immediately add six
extra seats to the left. Also National on twenty nine.
Now that is a trend across multiple poles. And by
the way, this is a poll that generally puts National
higher than the other poles. So I would say National's
(02:17):
got a big problem. And if you weren't aware of
that beforehand, now you are.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And Act?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
What is going on with Act six percent down one?
I mean Act at six percent is almost half of
New Zealand first at eleven are they even trying anymore.
At eleven percent in rising, Winston is the only party
going up in this government now. My biggest takeaway from
this poll is that I have never believed there would
be a change of government in November. I have also
(02:43):
never believed that Opportunity would get into parliament. But I
think I might be wrong about the second one. And
if I'm wrong about the second one, am I then
also wrong about the first one? That pole should worry
the coalition government enough to wake up two thirds of
it and get their vote up.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Of course, people should only be worried about things if
people think that poles mean anything these days? And can it?
We just point out, I don't know a series of
US election results, the Breckxit result, the UK election result.
(03:21):
Why do we have to keep pointing out that pole's
useless because nobody wants to do them and you can't
do them because you can't get a proper response from them.
So they are the numbers just don't add up news
talk zip bean anyway. Let's say people are into the
Opportunity's Party. When they say that, do they really know
(03:45):
anything about it?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I think the Opportuniti's Party was started by Gareth Morgan
who was also keen to get rid of cats, but
I don't know. I think he wore two hats. I
think one hat was the anti cat hat, the other
cat was. One hat was the anti heck cat, the
other hat was the Opportunity Party's cat cat. I'm going
(04:07):
to try and say again, one hat was the anti
cat hat and the other hat was the Opportunity Party hat.
So a cat hat and a change of government hat.
I don't know that he's still involved, and from what
I've seen of the leader of the party and haven't
done a deep dive on their policy yet, but what
(04:31):
I understand is that the new party is about tax
reform and stuff. I don't think they're about cats. But
I guess if you want a reason not to vote
for them and cats as your reason, then I can't
(04:54):
push back on that because I don't know. I mean,
that's kind of what it's like, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So we're looking for some anti cat hat pushback? Is
that what we're That was fun listen to that, But
I feel like I did better with my top so
hot sentence than he did with the anti cat hat cap.
But yeah, I think that is a clear so we
(05:19):
remember Gareth Morgan, who I think wrote off into the
sunset on his motorbike, and I think there have been
several leaders since then. But although I did hear the
name of the current leader of Top and the News yesterday,
I now can't remember who that person is or what
their neighbor is. And I work in the news sort dogs.
(05:46):
That would really be my first follow up question to
anybody who says I'm voting for the Opportunities Party when
they answer a pole, is do you know who the
leader of the Opportunities Party is or any of the
other people in the Opportunities Party you talk sib The
leader of the Labor Party is still Chris Hiptoms and
Ryan thought he said some interesting stuff about superannuation the other.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Day yesterday he said, labor will not change the age
of entitlement, will not means test ended, super will not
cut it, will not touch it, and will keep it
full indefinitely. Big call, big thing to say. We currently
have around four people working to support every pensioner. That
will be two workers for every pensioner within the next
(06:30):
ten to twenty years. Anyone with half a brain can
see this thing is not sustainable in full forever and
don't get me wrong. I don't want to cut any
more than anyone else. I want to get the full
entitlement when I hit sixty five, Thank you very much,
But I know it's probably not going to happen. I
recall following Phil Goff on the campaign trail back in
twenty eleven. It was a hospital pass. He was all
(06:52):
about making the hard decisions for tomorrow today. That was
his catch cry. Well, Chippy is running from that motto,
quicker than Usain Bolton the pair of Nikes. What he's
doing here is making a pretty blunt political assessment. I
reckon this will win us some work class votes and
keep us competitive with Winston and National. He's going after laborers.
(07:14):
He's going after workers who are outside who can't wait
till sixty five to retire, let alone sixty seven. He's
going after low wage workers who can barely afford groceries
right now, let alone an extra three and a half
percent on compulsory key we saver. You could argue that
this is smart politics, pick a point of difference, hammer
at home. The risk for labor though here is massive
(07:38):
because tax is there. Achilles Heel telling people you will
keep an unterfundable, expensive universal program forever will leave them wondering, well,
who's going to pay for that? Who will be taxed next?
And once you add in the pay equity claims up
to thirteen billion dollars, the gap starts to look more
like well, big black holes.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I mean, I think the problem that we've got more
and more old people all the time, and there just
seems to be no end to them. It is a
tricky one. I mean, you've heard my policy in the
past of never ever, ever, never, never, never ever never
(08:22):
have children because you know, young people. We don't like
young people. They cause a lot of problems, don't they know,
use clime and the like, and education that always seems
to be an issue. And we don't like old people
because they cost us too much of the too expensive.
Can you just have a country that's just the people
(08:44):
in the middle, and how do we get rid of
all the others? This is starting to sound a bit
like Nazi Germany. Uncomfortably like Nazi Germany, isn't it. I
think we should move on, right. So what's going on
on the sidelines of auckland Grammar's rugby games. Well, there's
no filming. That's for sure.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Auckland Grammars move to ban a content from filming its
first fifteen it has spark debate over student privacy versus
modern sports coverage. Critics call it out a step with
how most schools now promote their teams. But a lot
of supporters coming through for this online content creator who
goes by the name HS Top two hundred. He's got Facebook, YouTube,
(09:26):
his own website, a lot of work involved, and.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Of course the HTS stands for high school so HS
top two hundred dot com is the website, as you say,
And he's also on YouTube and Instagram, and his name
is herschel Fruen.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And you know, whatever you think of.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
This particular discussion and whether Auckland Grammar should have banned
him from filming or not, you've got to say when
you go to his content, he's putting a lot of
effort into.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
It, and it is.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
A celebration of high school rugby. That's the only way
you'd be able to describe it. But I know that's
not the only issue at hand.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Andrew Tyler, how you going very well? What's your thoughts?
Speaker 8 (10:07):
Hey? You look like when to a premiere last night
on Jonah Lomu called Lomu out at Menico Events Center.
Oh yeah, right at the highlights the Wizard College, Old Boy. Look,
have there not been video footage of nineteen ninety when
Jonah made our first of theeen that was given to
Laurie Meines? Jonah may not have ever been discovered.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well that's quite an interesting point, isn't it. And that's
from really before we had social media, well before, so
this has been going on for a long time. I
don't think I'm going back to this whole young person thing,
which I think we will agreed we're against them. I
(10:51):
think you'd be struggling to find one who doesn't want
to be filmed. I'm pretty sure. Aren't they just filming
themselves all the time? Anyway? I don't think they have
any privacy concerns. I think privacy died a long time ago,
didn't it.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
News talk has been and it's not.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Just privacy that's dead. I think truth, reality, those things
have gone away, haven't they because of AI. It's just
I mean the news, yes, fake, but does that matter?
Speaker 9 (11:29):
She showed me that wasn't even using particularly sophisticated AI.
You know, this was just a series of images of
random people in the pope like mum, No, no, it's
simply not true. He did not taken his alcoholic friend
from America and put him up in the papal chambers
and get him sorted and reunite him with his family
(11:50):
within the first week of his papacy. How would you know?
She said, we'll have a look at the papal calendar,
and you know, no, no, no, And she's not a
stupid woman. She just wants to believe nice stories. So
how do you know what is real and what is not?
Have you been caught up before? I mean, if it's
(12:10):
there for entertainment, if you know it's there for entertainment,
you can enjoy it and jog on. But it does
get damaging, It does get harmful when you believe that
my costing is offering cryptocurrency investment advice. People have been
taken in by politicians who are deep fakes, media personalities
(12:32):
who are deep fakes. When you lose your money, when
you are the victim of it, when you wake up
one morning to find out that you're supposed to be dead,
I mean disconcerting, to say the very very least, And
then having to tell people know I'm very much alive,
and as we head into an election, how do you
(12:55):
know what is real and what is not? When you
look at all the information you're consuming across all the
different media, how do you know what's true?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
The crazy thing is, as I was driving into work
this morning, I was listening to a podcast which is
a q A A is the name of the podcast,
and it's about conspiracy theories and debunking conspiracy theories. But
they were doing a particular episode on Ai slop, which
(13:25):
is the stuff that Kerry was talking about. Right there.
Ali generated content that some people can't seem to tell
as AI. And what a wacky coincidence that they were
talking about that and Kerry was talking about that. What
are the chances or we're either of those people talking
about that? Hmm. This is what I'm saying. This is
(13:49):
the awesome thing about living in the world today. We
could choose our own reality. We can make it up
as we go along. Don't you think that's awesome? See
in my world, this has been a fantastic podcast and
hundreds of thousands of people will tune into it again tomorrow.
(14:11):
If your world matches up into six with with my take,
I'll see you back here, then you don't care whether
I'm a AI or not. Do a little bit more,
you know, hot top cat hat cat back chat. Who
(14:36):
wouldn't tune in?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Back back to that used talking talking it been for
more from used talk, said B. Listen live on air
or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you
go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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