June 29, 2026 • 14 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Next Leader, Please/Young People Are Pretty Hopeless/Chloe's Been Telling On Us/Stop Playing Stupid Rugby Matches/One Kettle Too Many
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Mabut for Beanies and welcome to the Beans. Tuesday first
with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hard and we're looking
back at Monday apprenticeships. It's important because apparently we can't
do anything anymore. So Labor's going to sort that out.
Maybe what's how we score is going off running to
(00:45):
the EU about how not environmentally friendly we are? What's
all this about? Yeah, you don't know, do you? And
that's a problem. Our charity Ruggy matches a problem. And
how many benchop appliances is too many? But before any
of that, this top so many people call it the
(01:05):
Top party that I'm pretty sure the Peace Sensors Party.
So you can't call it the top party otherwise you're
calling it the Opportunities party party. I don't mind the
word party party, but I don't think that's what they
are anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Who's in chudge of their new leader is a great communicator.
Databaut Itt Qla Wong. Her main job was an environmental
carbon advisor to businesses. Now I don't really know what
that means. But she's lovely. She's really lovely, and she's smart.
The problem with getting to five percent is timing.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
The closer we.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Get to the election, this flirt, this fascination, this honeymoon,
if you will, will have worn off. Voters will go
into the booth trying to keep one side in or
one side out, and there is little room for flights
of fancy and a polling booth like opportunity. The other
thing people do in the polling booth is takeout insurance.
By election week, it is pretty clear if you're listening,
(01:54):
if your is to the ground, who's doing well and
who is not. So voters take out insurance. It's why
I have said consistently since last year that I think
Winston will do well this year. Labor voters, not national
I think, will slide into his DMS, offering them everything
Hipkins is short of a labor government. As for Opportunity
or Top the Opportunities Party or whatever it is they're called, well,
(02:19):
you don't know which way they're going. That is their strength.
But it's also when it comes down to the day
of polling a weakness.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Has the Opportunities Party party I think I'm going to
keep calling the mat from now. It's growing on me.
Have they ever had the same leader between one election
and the next? I can't say. I've paid for a
lot of attention, to be honest, since they started, and
we're coming out to the cats. It's fascinating. People want
(02:53):
something else, don't they?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
News talk?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Has it been? Does that mean that they don't really
want labor? No matter how much they're going to shake
up the apprenticeship system.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Taking on apprentices does take time. You get a few
prints and unicorns that come into your workshop or to
your sell on or to your work gang, who are brilliant,
who are meant to be doing the job, who understand
it instinctively, who turn up on time. They're amazing. And
(03:23):
we get a few of those here, But the rest
of us, and I include myself and that aren't much
used for a couple of years. We make mistakes, we
learn from them. We cost you money, You roll your eyes,
you manage not to kick our bums, and in the
end we come right and we're worth something to you.
(03:47):
It takes time, It takes dedication, It takes the right
temperament to take on apprentices. So is this COVID two
point zero scheme that Labor has announced, the apprenticeship boost scheme.
Is that going to make a difference to you in
terms of taking on apprentices Is there a government scheme
(04:12):
over the last twenty seven years that's worked best for
you or is it pretty much up to the economic
climate of the time as to whether you can take
on apprentices or not.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, it's an interesting one. I know a young guy
who was an apprentice panel beater until the panel beaters
decided they were making enough money to have an apprentice,
and certainly he wasn't able to do that anymore, had
to completely change towns and do something else. Is a
bit stincid it, So maybe a scheme like this would
(04:47):
have helped him maybe in terms of, you know, getting
yourself together. You know some people it takes longer than others.
Cairie's damn right about that. I'm still trying to get
myself together. I'm kind of it's a lifelong apprenticeship that
I think I've got myself involved in. He it, so
(05:09):
I'm very appreciative of that talk side right, So both
Mike asking and here the doople see Ellen, they are
up in arms about Chloe Swarbrick going off to the
EU and knocking on us about what we're doing about
climate change, which is less and less all the time.
(05:34):
I'm not quite sure who's side them on here? Is
that what we're supposed to be doing. Are we supposed
to be taking sides on this?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
This is a woman who has designs on being the
Finance Minister, And as frankly laughable as that is, it
is relevant that she prioritizes climate emissions over maximizing our
export earnings and reducing the tariffs our exporters face. That
is a material thing to know. It is material to
know that she would rather have us have high tariffs
and than high emissions. She wants to be in charge
(06:03):
of the books. They rely on the export earnings she's
trying to harm. Now, if you look back through similar examples,
like when the animal activists here planted a story and
the Independent in the UK and then explicitly called on
UK consumers to boycott our products that did in the
past get domestic coverage, I can understand that you need
two groups of people basically to draw this to the
(06:24):
attention of the public.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
First of all, it has to be parties that oppose her,
and then it has to be the media. Now I
can understand why parties that oppose her, being the government parties,
aren't having a crack at her, because doing so would
draw attention to the fact that she is right and
we are probably on track to breach our FTA with
our climate emissions. And it has it a guess that
the media the second party aren't covering it because they
probably agree with Chloe that climate emission should be prioritized
(06:47):
and so her knarcking on us is a non issue
to them. But if I judge the strength of feeling
that I'm getting about her actions based on the outrage
expressed on the text machine, I would say this is
a missed opportunity for a the government parties to make
a mockery of her priorities and just prove how unsuited
she is to finance minister and b the media to
get some clicks off the back of the story. Ross
(07:08):
the Texter was right this morning. This should have got
way more coverage.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, it's some I mean, we all know what a
lefty lat a drinking liberal I am, and this is
one of those things where you know, I have a
diametrically opposed opinion to my colleagues here it used to
were the majority of the colleagues here. It used to
(07:32):
it said, who believe that capitalism and profit takes precedence
over keeping the planet Liverpool for humankind? So yeah, I
probably lean a little bit towards oh yeah there. At
(07:53):
the same time, I don't really like his style running
off to europe who take, oh, we're not as green
as you think we are. It was like I said,
I think we are. We're supposed to be taking sides.
If we I don't, I really don't know who's side
to be on here, right, So yeah, Mark mitschell and
(08:16):
has broken ReBs and the charity Rugby Match, and Christopher
Luxon not knowing anything about it, and well Andrew Samwell
wanted blowing out calf muscle or whatever it was, as well,
what the hell's are these people think?
Speaker 7 (08:32):
Don't get me started on these daft politicians playing rugby.
Goodness me, it's embarrassing. All of it's embarrassing from the
beginning to the end. Anyway, I see one of them
done as Rebson or something. Jeepers, creepers.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, if I don't.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
Quite know why, I feel so strong about that. It
just seems I can't think of the words to describe it.
It's kind of it's kind of embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I think.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
Arrested development of politicians and they're you know, we vote
them in to do a job, which, to be fair,
they're not flesh at, but to try and kind of
garner them. You might be able to articulate better than
I can. I can't do so well at it, but
(09:37):
there we go.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I'm completely with Marcus on this. It seems like the
stupidest thing ever. People who are not regularly you know,
playing sport, trying to getting injured then being a drain
on our health system. I'd love to know exactly how
much money they raise through this game. According to AI,
(10:01):
the Regular for Life Charitable Trust generates and channels hundreds
of thousands of dollars. But I don't know from that
rugby game, that particular rugby game specifically, because I would
have thought the money that we're having to pay to
look after now Matt Mitchell's ReBs, Andrew Saville's leg. I
(10:24):
think there were some other injuries and things as well.
It takes a bad hunk out of it. It's just
it's pathetic, it's stupid. Let's stop doing this. It's endiculous.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
News talk z it.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Been well, don't hold back, then, tell us how you
really feel. I think I did, and I think Tyler's
got a scheme. Now he's got too many appliances on
a bench. Is this the most first world of first
world problems ever?
Speaker 8 (10:56):
Right now we are operating, so I'm going to run
you through it. So we've got the kettle, We've got
the sandwich press. We've got the coffee machine that you
gifted us. Beautiful we coffee machine.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
We're still going all right.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
We yep. We've got the ear fryer and we've got
the smoothie maker. So that's taking up a lot of
valuable real estate on the bench. I've got multiplugs operating
up out the wazoo. But here's my problem that I
need to get rid of one of those things. And
here's what I suggested. Because we've got the coffee maker
and that's working beautifully, I suggested.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Disrespectful to me if you took that off the bench
because I gave it to you as a gift.
Speaker 8 (11:31):
No, No, that is working a treat and really enjoying
that coffee. But here's what I've suggested. The kittle's got
to go. The kettle has to go. I no longer
have any need for the kettle. There was talk about
the sandwich press, but I actually use that sandwich preez
quite a bit, so to me, the kettle's got to go.
And then all of a sudden, you know that, we
had a few friends around and they said, what do
you mean, The kittle's got to go. That is the
one thing that has to stay in a kiwi helseon.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
So why you can't know, mate, You've lost your minds.
You're completely insane. You need to be thrown into a
padded sal That's what they said. You can't prioritize the
sandwich maker over the kettle. The kettle is as a
crucial piece of any kind of kitchen setup.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
But I ran the numbers.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
So I ran the hour per usage of each of
those appliances, and when it came to the sandwich press,
I calculated I was using that bad boy at least
two hours per week.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
I can see that.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, I did even say that.
Speaker 8 (12:23):
But I just leg into that one beautifully tony.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
But the kettle, now that we.
Speaker 8 (12:28):
I don't need to boil it for the old instant
coffee anymore that gets less than twenty months years.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
All right, So me giving you a coffee machine has
made the kettle less important. You're not on the tea.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Not on the tea, right?
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Are you boiling water to put into pots before you're
boiling rice and pasta to speed.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
Up the process just for the two minute noodles?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, that is the only thing I do it for now.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
All right?
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Okay, Well, I'm going to say, look, it sounds like
you've done your math on this, and like I want
to back you, but but I want you to keep
I won't keep you. I want you to keep collecting data,
all right, and then report back. Yeah in two weeks.
Speaker 8 (13:04):
And you reckon too many toasty samis maybe.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Yeah, port back and see how it's going.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Maybe he actually needs an adding machine on the bench
or a smart speaker or something so he can tell
you the results. I think he missed Matt's very clear
point there as well, which is exactly what I do too,
is boil water and a jug. When you need boiling
water in a pot, it's a lot quicker and more
(13:28):
efficient to boil the water in a jug or a
kettle as they describe it up. So it's not actually
a kettle. It's a hot water jug, isn't it. Nobody
has a kettle. I did that just last night. I
just for boiling up a few veggies to go with
my homemade rissoles for the jug forard that in the pot.
(13:55):
So that's boiling straight away. Got the log down. Just what,
of course Tyler actually needs is a butler's pantry. So
if he's got a covered through the wall or something
like that, and he said, knock a hole through that
wall and turn that cub in into a butler's pantry,
and then he's got a whole other bench dop just
four appliances. He's probably not appared to do that. That's
(14:22):
the most elegant solution to that issue. Fine, I'm Glen
Hart advice for people with too many appliances. It's a
niche podcast, but you know that's what you do these days,
isn't it. You find your niche and then you you
stick an air fryer in it. And I'll see you
back here again tomorrow.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Mabut for Beanies and welcome to the Beans. Tuesday first
with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hard and we're looking
back at Monday apprenticeships. It's important because apparently we can't
do anything anymore. So Labor's going to sort that out.
Maybe what's how we score is going off running to
(00:45):
the EU about how not environmentally friendly we are? What's
all this about? Yeah, you don't know, do you? And
that's a problem. Our charity Ruggy matches a problem. And
how many benchop appliances is too many? But before any
of that, this top so many people call it the
(01:05):
Top party that I'm pretty sure the Peace Sensors Party.
So you can't call it the top party otherwise you're
calling it the Opportunities party party. I don't mind the
word party party, but I don't think that's what they
are anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Who's in chudge of their new leader is a great communicator.
Databaut Itt Qla Wong. Her main job was an environmental
carbon advisor to businesses. Now I don't really know what
that means. But she's lovely. She's really lovely, and she's smart.
The problem with getting to five percent is timing.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
The closer we.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Get to the election, this flirt, this fascination, this honeymoon,
if you will, will have worn off. Voters will go
into the booth trying to keep one side in or
one side out, and there is little room for flights
of fancy and a polling booth like opportunity. The other
thing people do in the polling booth is takeout insurance.
By election week, it is pretty clear if you're listening,
(01:54):
if your is to the ground, who's doing well and
who is not. So voters take out insurance. It's why
I have said consistently since last year that I think
Winston will do well this year. Labor voters, not national
I think, will slide into his DMS, offering them everything
Hipkins is short of a labor government. As for Opportunity
or Top the Opportunities Party or whatever it is they're called, well,
(02:19):
you don't know which way they're going. That is their strength.
But it's also when it comes down to the day
of polling a weakness.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Has the Opportunities Party party I think I'm going to
keep calling the mat from now. It's growing on me.
Have they ever had the same leader between one election
and the next? I can't say. I've paid for a
lot of attention, to be honest, since they started, and
we're coming out to the cats. It's fascinating. People want
(02:53):
something else, don't they?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
News talk?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Has it been? Does that mean that they don't really
want labor? No matter how much they're going to shake
up the apprenticeship system.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Taking on apprentices does take time. You get a few
prints and unicorns that come into your workshop or to
your sell on or to your work gang, who are brilliant,
who are meant to be doing the job, who understand
it instinctively, who turn up on time. They're amazing. And
(03:23):
we get a few of those here, But the rest
of us, and I include myself and that aren't much
used for a couple of years. We make mistakes, we
learn from them. We cost you money, You roll your eyes,
you manage not to kick our bums, and in the
end we come right and we're worth something to you.
(03:47):
It takes time, It takes dedication, It takes the right
temperament to take on apprentices. So is this COVID two
point zero scheme that Labor has announced, the apprenticeship boost scheme.
Is that going to make a difference to you in
terms of taking on apprentices Is there a government scheme
(04:12):
over the last twenty seven years that's worked best for
you or is it pretty much up to the economic
climate of the time as to whether you can take
on apprentices or not.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, it's an interesting one. I know a young guy
who was an apprentice panel beater until the panel beaters
decided they were making enough money to have an apprentice,
and certainly he wasn't able to do that anymore, had
to completely change towns and do something else. Is a
bit stincid it, So maybe a scheme like this would
(04:47):
have helped him maybe in terms of, you know, getting
yourself together. You know some people it takes longer than others.
Cairie's damn right about that. I'm still trying to get
myself together. I'm kind of it's a lifelong apprenticeship that
I think I've got myself involved in. He it, so
(05:09):
I'm very appreciative of that talk side right, So both
Mike asking and here the doople see Ellen, they are
up in arms about Chloe Swarbrick going off to the
EU and knocking on us about what we're doing about
climate change, which is less and less all the time.
(05:34):
I'm not quite sure who's side them on here? Is
that what we're supposed to be doing. Are we supposed
to be taking sides on this?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
This is a woman who has designs on being the
Finance Minister, And as frankly laughable as that is, it
is relevant that she prioritizes climate emissions over maximizing our
export earnings and reducing the tariffs our exporters face. That
is a material thing to know. It is material to
know that she would rather have us have high tariffs
and than high emissions. She wants to be in charge
(06:03):
of the books. They rely on the export earnings she's
trying to harm. Now, if you look back through similar examples,
like when the animal activists here planted a story and
the Independent in the UK and then explicitly called on
UK consumers to boycott our products that did in the
past get domestic coverage, I can understand that you need
two groups of people basically to draw this to the
(06:24):
attention of the public.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
First of all, it has to be parties that oppose her,
and then it has to be the media. Now I
can understand why parties that oppose her, being the government parties,
aren't having a crack at her, because doing so would
draw attention to the fact that she is right and
we are probably on track to breach our FTA with
our climate emissions. And it has it a guess that
the media the second party aren't covering it because they
probably agree with Chloe that climate emission should be prioritized
(06:47):
and so her knarcking on us is a non issue
to them. But if I judge the strength of feeling
that I'm getting about her actions based on the outrage
expressed on the text machine, I would say this is
a missed opportunity for a the government parties to make
a mockery of her priorities and just prove how unsuited
she is to finance minister and b the media to
get some clicks off the back of the story. Ross
(07:08):
the Texter was right this morning. This should have got
way more coverage.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, it's some I mean, we all know what a
lefty lat a drinking liberal I am, and this is
one of those things where you know, I have a
diametrically opposed opinion to my colleagues here it used to
were the majority of the colleagues here. It used to
(07:32):
it said, who believe that capitalism and profit takes precedence
over keeping the planet Liverpool for humankind? So yeah, I
probably lean a little bit towards oh yeah there. At
(07:53):
the same time, I don't really like his style running
off to europe who take, oh, we're not as green
as you think we are. It was like I said,
I think we are. We're supposed to be taking sides.
If we I don't, I really don't know who's side
to be on here, right, So yeah, Mark mitschell and
(08:16):
has broken ReBs and the charity Rugby Match, and Christopher
Luxon not knowing anything about it, and well Andrew Samwell
wanted blowing out calf muscle or whatever it was, as well,
what the hell's are these people think?
Speaker 7 (08:32):
Don't get me started on these daft politicians playing rugby.
Goodness me, it's embarrassing. All of it's embarrassing from the
beginning to the end. Anyway, I see one of them
done as Rebson or something. Jeepers, creepers.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, if I don't.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
Quite know why, I feel so strong about that. It
just seems I can't think of the words to describe it.
It's kind of it's kind of embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I think.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
Arrested development of politicians and they're you know, we vote
them in to do a job, which, to be fair,
they're not flesh at, but to try and kind of
garner them. You might be able to articulate better than
I can. I can't do so well at it, but
(09:37):
there we go.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I'm completely with Marcus on this. It seems like the
stupidest thing ever. People who are not regularly you know,
playing sport, trying to getting injured then being a drain
on our health system. I'd love to know exactly how
much money they raise through this game. According to AI,
(10:01):
the Regular for Life Charitable Trust generates and channels hundreds
of thousands of dollars. But I don't know from that
rugby game, that particular rugby game specifically, because I would
have thought the money that we're having to pay to
look after now Matt Mitchell's ReBs, Andrew Saville's leg. I
(10:24):
think there were some other injuries and things as well.
It takes a bad hunk out of it. It's just
it's pathetic, it's stupid. Let's stop doing this. It's endiculous.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
News talk z it.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Been well, don't hold back, then, tell us how you
really feel. I think I did, and I think Tyler's
got a scheme. Now he's got too many appliances on
a bench. Is this the most first world of first
world problems ever?
Speaker 8 (10:56):
Right now we are operating, so I'm going to run
you through it. So we've got the kettle, We've got
the sandwich press. We've got the coffee machine that you
gifted us. Beautiful we coffee machine.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
We're still going all right.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
We yep. We've got the ear fryer and we've got
the smoothie maker. So that's taking up a lot of
valuable real estate on the bench. I've got multiplugs operating
up out the wazoo. But here's my problem that I
need to get rid of one of those things. And
here's what I suggested. Because we've got the coffee maker
and that's working beautifully, I suggested.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Disrespectful to me if you took that off the bench
because I gave it to you as a gift.
Speaker 8 (11:31):
No, No, that is working a treat and really enjoying
that coffee. But here's what I've suggested. The kittle's got
to go. The kettle has to go. I no longer
have any need for the kettle. There was talk about
the sandwich press, but I actually use that sandwich preez
quite a bit, so to me, the kettle's got to go.
And then all of a sudden, you know that, we
had a few friends around and they said, what do
you mean, The kittle's got to go. That is the
one thing that has to stay in a kiwi helseon.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
So why you can't know, mate, You've lost your minds.
You're completely insane. You need to be thrown into a
padded sal That's what they said. You can't prioritize the
sandwich maker over the kettle. The kettle is as a
crucial piece of any kind of kitchen setup.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
But I ran the numbers.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
So I ran the hour per usage of each of
those appliances, and when it came to the sandwich press,
I calculated I was using that bad boy at least
two hours per week.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
I can see that.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, I did even say that.
Speaker 8 (12:23):
But I just leg into that one beautifully tony.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
But the kettle, now that we.
Speaker 8 (12:28):
I don't need to boil it for the old instant
coffee anymore that gets less than twenty months years.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
All right, So me giving you a coffee machine has
made the kettle less important. You're not on the tea.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Not on the tea, right?
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Are you boiling water to put into pots before you're
boiling rice and pasta to speed.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
Up the process just for the two minute noodles?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, that is the only thing I do it for now.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
All right?
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Okay, Well, I'm going to say, look, it sounds like
you've done your math on this, and like I want
to back you, but but I want you to keep
I won't keep you. I want you to keep collecting data,
all right, and then report back. Yeah in two weeks.
Speaker 8 (13:04):
And you reckon too many toasty samis maybe.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Yeah, port back and see how it's going.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Maybe he actually needs an adding machine on the bench
or a smart speaker or something so he can tell
you the results. I think he missed Matt's very clear
point there as well, which is exactly what I do too,
is boil water and a jug. When you need boiling
water in a pot, it's a lot quicker and more
(13:28):
efficient to boil the water in a jug or a
kettle as they describe it up. So it's not actually
a kettle. It's a hot water jug, isn't it. Nobody
has a kettle. I did that just last night. I
just for boiling up a few veggies to go with
my homemade rissoles for the jug forard that in the pot.
(13:55):
So that's boiling straight away. Got the log down. Just what,
of course Tyler actually needs is a butler's pantry. So
if he's got a covered through the wall or something
like that, and he said, knock a hole through that
wall and turn that cub in into a butler's pantry,
and then he's got a whole other bench dop just
four appliances. He's probably not appared to do that. That's
(14:22):
the most elegant solution to that issue. Fine, I'm Glen
Hart advice for people with too many appliances. It's a
niche podcast, but you know that's what you do these days,
isn't it. You find your niche and then you you
stick an air fryer in it. And I'll see you
back here again tomorrow.
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