March 1, 2026 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) This Probably Means Something to Someone/Sport's All Gone Wrong/Coding for Idiots/How It All Works/He's Bluffing
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean the week
in edition. First with yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart
and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday. Can
I find in some of the best days to have
weekends on? We've got to super ragby update for you.
It's bad, It's really bad. Jack tries coding. Francesca talks
(00:44):
to Brian Cox. Now which Brian Cox you ask? We'll
find out shortly. And Carl Urban has got a movie
called The Bluff?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Is it a movie?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That's a movie? Before any of that, Nichol has been
jiggling key, we saber around a little bit. Let's get
the details on that.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
So you're making an exception for workers in service tendancies
or required to live and provided accommodation. How many people
will this effect?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Well as a sign of how disconnected urban policy making
can be from rural communities, officials don't hold any official
numbers on the number of service tenancies on farms. What
we have better information about is the government's own service tenancy.
So across the education system they are about two hundred
(01:31):
and thirty five of those for rural teachers and principles police,
about two hundred and forty, Health about five hundred, and
there's about eight hundred and fifty New Zealand defense personnel
who are in service tenancies currently, although that number fluctuates
a bit, so we know that there are hundreds of
people in this situation. We know many farm workers if
(01:52):
they want to work on farm where there is a
stock handler or manager, then they have to live close
to that place because boy or boy, they get up
there in the morning, don't they hear what about?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I mean? That almost leads to the argument that why
not allow it for all renters, for anyone who just
wants to buy their first house, whether or not they
live in it or or not not, then we're all
in the same sort of level playing field.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Well, no, that would be a big departure, because the
principle has been that for more than a decade, you've
been able to use your key, we savor to buy
a home so long as you live in it, so
long as it's intended to be your house rather than
just an investment where that breaks down is of course,
for these people in rural communities, they don't have a
choice in the matter. If you're living in the city,
(02:37):
you have the choice of buying a smaller house or
a cheaper house to get into it. These rural workers,
as a condition of employment, are required to live in
their employers' rental property. So it's a bit different because
their choices are constrained.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Wow, that's complicated, one of those conversations. You know, it's
probably quite important, but the people who are explaining it
to you just sound like the adults in a Peanuts cartoon. Yeah,
they just got one, won't Why won't? I mean, I
guess if it applies to you. You know what she
(03:13):
was talking about?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
News talk? Has it been right?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Do I know what happened with the Chiefs the other night?
I don't understand how we were absolutely killing the crusaders
and then suddenly we weren't. Anyway, the coach of the
crusaders is probably got a bit of a lifeline after
that result.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
How do you sum up a night where you're fourteen
nil and twenty one to seven down but then end
up putting forty on the chiefs.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It was a really proud moment. I guess we up
against the great chief Side, who you know, are always
difficult up here and to be you know, as you say,
those that many points down, but we always had faith
we've got a capable group and they managed to string
some pressure moments together which has been a bit of
(04:06):
a sow point for us in the first three weeks
of the camp. And on the back of those, we've
got a real we've got to run and shut them out.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
And it was.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
A fine performance by a lot of men across the
park and they should be really really proud of their performances.
And people are too, because as I said, it was
a really good, strong chief side and tough to went
up here and to do it in that manor was Yeah,
it was a bit special.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, I feel like I feel like I'm giving up
on sport again after this weekend. You know, a lot
of things didn't go the way I wanted them to.
It was nice to see Aukland f C. Yeah have
a good result, but yeah, I mean, you know, Caines
losing in Fiji, it's not great, is it? Blues losing Ireland?
(05:02):
Is everybody nobody cares about the Crusaders winning do they
You talk sid right, So Jack Kaim doesn't know how
to code.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
But open AI version coding is empowered, is even better
than chat GPT, and with good reason. The likes of
Anthropic and open Ai, the companies that own these systems
have very deliberately prioritized developing AI coding systems so they
could then use those systems to build better models. It's
(05:33):
kind of hard to get your head around it, but
this is to me an absolutely stunning fact. Anthropic, which
owns Claude, estimates ninety percent of claud code has been
written by claud Code itself. What does my vibe coding
experience mean for the future of AI and in the
(05:56):
future of our economies. I don't know, Ozie, I've got
no idea. I still think the AI hype seems extreme,
to say the least, but I would be lying to
you if I said that, in looking around, I hadn't
been genuinely wowed. My first experience of vibe coding was
(06:16):
really impressive, not perfect, but really really impressive, and honestly,
being able to give it plain language instructions, being able
to speak to it in English and then leave it
to go to work. It felt like kind of magic.
It's really hard not to wonder that if this is
(06:36):
where it is today, where might it be five years
from now.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well, I mean we all be extinct obviously, or plugged
into human battery servers matrix style slaves to the freak
of consciousness of the robots.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Use your city.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
The world will probably be a better place. I mean,
you know, we'll be dead, but.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Go the world.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
What we need is a internationally renowned physicist to explain
how all this stuff works. Is that why Brian Cox
is here?
Speaker 7 (07:20):
Are we still learning at the same rate as we
did then when it comes to science, I.
Speaker 8 (07:29):
Mean, I think that the rate is faster, faster than ever.
But the wonderful thing I think it was I think
it was who was who?
Speaker 6 (07:41):
He said?
Speaker 8 (07:41):
I can't remember who was that, but someone, Oh it's
John Wheeler, the great physicist, said that we live on
this on an island of knowledge in an ocean of ignorance.
But as the island of our knowledge increases, so did
the shores of our ignorance. I think it's a wonderful quote.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
So although we know a lot more, we also know
that we don't know a lot. Yeah, yeah, we know
that we don't know a lot because I was wondering
good with your show Horizon, you know, it was hugely popular.
I mean I think, didn't you break some sort of
Guinness Book of records with that show? I think nearly
half a million people attended that tour, Yeah, which is extraordinary.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
I always joke, though I always joke that there's not
an enormous amount of competition. It's a very specific world record,
the most number of people that have attended a science lecture.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Basically that I wonder, even in the space of starting
to tour a show, does the things change, does the
information change? Does the knowledge change?
Speaker 8 (08:46):
This is the most exciting thing for me. One of
the things that's central to the show is that when
new results come in, I try I put them in
the show as long as they're in part of the
narrative of the show, and the narrative really is how
we discovered our place in the universe and crucially what
we don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm a bit of a groupie, if I'm being perfectly honest.
I listened to your podcast called the Infunet Muggan Cake,
which is co hosted by Brian Cox and a comedian
called Robinance. Keep listening to this podcast until the end,
(09:26):
and then go and listen to one of those that pretty.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Again news talks.
Speaker 9 (09:31):
It been.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I'm going to finish up with Carl Urban talking the bluff. No,
I don't know what this meant. That means either, let's
find out.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
I can't say this for every film, but it really
looked like it would have been a hell of a
lot of fun to make this film. So what drew
you to the Bluff?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (09:49):
Yeah, you know, it was a lot of fun to make.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
You know.
Speaker 9 (09:52):
What drew me to the film was well, two things. Firstly,
it was the story itself. I found it quite intriguing
and I was drawn to, you know, this sort of
pirate story. It's a story about a woman who was
defending her family from her nefarious past. And I play
(10:13):
the nefarious past, and I play a character called Captain Connor,
who is a former East India Trading Company captain who
has basically been outlawed. He was betrayed by the Empire,
betrayed by his lover and partner, and you know, kind
of ostracized. And and to me, that was a very
(10:33):
fertile kind of ground to launch this story. And and
and yeah, it was. It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
When you think about the kind of continuum of heroes
and bad guys, and I know that you know that
probably reduces things to being a little bit too binary,
but you have played beloved heroes over the years. It
strikes me that that Billy Butcher's kind of an anti
hero of sorts. So where do you think that Captain
Connor kind of sits on that continuum?
Speaker 9 (11:00):
Well, listen, I mean, he's a bad guy. There's no pirates,
and I think that's one of the the good things
about the Bluff is that, you know, you know, we've
become the customs. A lot of sort of comedic takes
on it, you know, our action takes. You know this
this is a kind of a gritty look at some
of the right the reality of these we're bad men
that you know, the brutal things. But you know, you know,
(11:23):
to me, I think that you know, this film it
just it fires on all cylinders, like it's a lit fuse.
It's like once it starts, it's relentless and it doesn't
give up.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
It sounds exhausting. I'm not sure what the running time is,
but it certainly sounds like one of those movies. You
want to make sure you've been to the lou before
you go in. You know you want to miss any
of that I Am Glen Hart that has been used
to said Bean. You can go up and listen to
the Infinite Monkey Cage now and I'll see you back
here again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Us Talk Talk Said Bean. For more from News Talk
Said b. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcast
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said, b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you Talk said, Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean the week
in edition. First with yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart
and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday. Can
I find in some of the best days to have
weekends on? We've got to super ragby update for you.
It's bad, It's really bad. Jack tries coding. Francesca talks
(00:44):
to Brian Cox. Now which Brian Cox you ask? We'll
find out shortly. And Carl Urban has got a movie
called The Bluff?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Is it a movie?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That's a movie? Before any of that, Nichol has been
jiggling key, we saber around a little bit. Let's get
the details on that.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
So you're making an exception for workers in service tendancies
or required to live and provided accommodation. How many people
will this effect?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Well as a sign of how disconnected urban policy making
can be from rural communities, officials don't hold any official
numbers on the number of service tenancies on farms. What
we have better information about is the government's own service tenancy.
So across the education system they are about two hundred
(01:31):
and thirty five of those for rural teachers and principles police,
about two hundred and forty, Health about five hundred, and
there's about eight hundred and fifty New Zealand defense personnel
who are in service tenancies currently, although that number fluctuates
a bit, so we know that there are hundreds of
people in this situation. We know many farm workers if
(01:52):
they want to work on farm where there is a
stock handler or manager, then they have to live close
to that place because boy or boy, they get up
there in the morning, don't they hear what about?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I mean? That almost leads to the argument that why
not allow it for all renters, for anyone who just
wants to buy their first house, whether or not they
live in it or or not not, then we're all
in the same sort of level playing field.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Well, no, that would be a big departure, because the
principle has been that for more than a decade, you've
been able to use your key, we savor to buy
a home so long as you live in it, so
long as it's intended to be your house rather than
just an investment where that breaks down is of course,
for these people in rural communities, they don't have a
choice in the matter. If you're living in the city,
(02:37):
you have the choice of buying a smaller house or
a cheaper house to get into it. These rural workers,
as a condition of employment, are required to live in
their employers' rental property. So it's a bit different because
their choices are constrained.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Wow, that's complicated, one of those conversations. You know, it's
probably quite important, but the people who are explaining it
to you just sound like the adults in a Peanuts cartoon. Yeah,
they just got one, won't Why won't? I mean, I
guess if it applies to you. You know what she
(03:13):
was talking about?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
News talk? Has it been right?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Do I know what happened with the Chiefs the other night?
I don't understand how we were absolutely killing the crusaders
and then suddenly we weren't. Anyway, the coach of the
crusaders is probably got a bit of a lifeline after
that result.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
How do you sum up a night where you're fourteen
nil and twenty one to seven down but then end
up putting forty on the chiefs.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It was a really proud moment. I guess we up
against the great chief Side, who you know, are always
difficult up here and to be you know, as you say,
those that many points down, but we always had faith
we've got a capable group and they managed to string
some pressure moments together which has been a bit of
(04:06):
a sow point for us in the first three weeks
of the camp. And on the back of those, we've
got a real we've got to run and shut them out.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
And it was.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
A fine performance by a lot of men across the
park and they should be really really proud of their performances.
And people are too, because as I said, it was
a really good, strong chief side and tough to went
up here and to do it in that manor was Yeah,
it was a bit special.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, I feel like I feel like I'm giving up
on sport again after this weekend. You know, a lot
of things didn't go the way I wanted them to.
It was nice to see Aukland f C. Yeah have
a good result, but yeah, I mean, you know, Caines
losing in Fiji, it's not great, is it? Blues losing Ireland?
(05:02):
Is everybody nobody cares about the Crusaders winning do they
You talk sid right, So Jack Kaim doesn't know how
to code.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
But open AI version coding is empowered, is even better
than chat GPT, and with good reason. The likes of
Anthropic and open Ai, the companies that own these systems
have very deliberately prioritized developing AI coding systems so they
could then use those systems to build better models. It's
(05:33):
kind of hard to get your head around it, but
this is to me an absolutely stunning fact. Anthropic, which
owns Claude, estimates ninety percent of claud code has been
written by claud Code itself. What does my vibe coding
experience mean for the future of AI and in the
(05:56):
future of our economies. I don't know, Ozie, I've got
no idea. I still think the AI hype seems extreme,
to say the least, but I would be lying to
you if I said that, in looking around, I hadn't
been genuinely wowed. My first experience of vibe coding was
(06:16):
really impressive, not perfect, but really really impressive, and honestly,
being able to give it plain language instructions, being able
to speak to it in English and then leave it
to go to work. It felt like kind of magic.
It's really hard not to wonder that if this is
(06:36):
where it is today, where might it be five years
from now.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well, I mean we all be extinct obviously, or plugged
into human battery servers matrix style slaves to the freak
of consciousness of the robots.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Use your city.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
The world will probably be a better place. I mean,
you know, we'll be dead, but.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Go the world.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
What we need is a internationally renowned physicist to explain
how all this stuff works. Is that why Brian Cox
is here?
Speaker 7 (07:20):
Are we still learning at the same rate as we
did then when it comes to science, I.
Speaker 8 (07:29):
Mean, I think that the rate is faster, faster than ever.
But the wonderful thing I think it was I think
it was who was who?
Speaker 6 (07:41):
He said?
Speaker 8 (07:41):
I can't remember who was that, but someone, Oh it's
John Wheeler, the great physicist, said that we live on
this on an island of knowledge in an ocean of ignorance.
But as the island of our knowledge increases, so did
the shores of our ignorance. I think it's a wonderful quote.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
So although we know a lot more, we also know
that we don't know a lot. Yeah, yeah, we know
that we don't know a lot because I was wondering
good with your show Horizon, you know, it was hugely popular.
I mean I think, didn't you break some sort of
Guinness Book of records with that show? I think nearly
half a million people attended that tour, Yeah, which is extraordinary.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
I always joke, though I always joke that there's not
an enormous amount of competition. It's a very specific world record,
the most number of people that have attended a science lecture.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Basically that I wonder, even in the space of starting
to tour a show, does the things change, does the
information change? Does the knowledge change?
Speaker 8 (08:46):
This is the most exciting thing for me. One of
the things that's central to the show is that when
new results come in, I try I put them in
the show as long as they're in part of the
narrative of the show, and the narrative really is how
we discovered our place in the universe and crucially what
we don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm a bit of a groupie, if I'm being perfectly honest.
I listened to your podcast called the Infunet Muggan Cake,
which is co hosted by Brian Cox and a comedian
called Robinance. Keep listening to this podcast until the end,
(09:26):
and then go and listen to one of those that pretty.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Again news talks.
Speaker 9 (09:31):
It been.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I'm going to finish up with Carl Urban talking the bluff. No,
I don't know what this meant. That means either, let's
find out.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
I can't say this for every film, but it really
looked like it would have been a hell of a
lot of fun to make this film. So what drew
you to the Bluff?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (09:49):
Yeah, you know, it was a lot of fun to make.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
You know.
Speaker 9 (09:52):
What drew me to the film was well, two things. Firstly,
it was the story itself. I found it quite intriguing
and I was drawn to, you know, this sort of
pirate story. It's a story about a woman who was
defending her family from her nefarious past. And I play
(10:13):
the nefarious past, and I play a character called Captain Connor,
who is a former East India Trading Company captain who
has basically been outlawed. He was betrayed by the Empire,
betrayed by his lover and partner, and you know, kind
of ostracized. And and to me, that was a very
(10:33):
fertile kind of ground to launch this story. And and
and yeah, it was. It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
When you think about the kind of continuum of heroes
and bad guys, and I know that you know that
probably reduces things to being a little bit too binary,
but you have played beloved heroes over the years. It
strikes me that that Billy Butcher's kind of an anti
hero of sorts. So where do you think that Captain
Connor kind of sits on that continuum?
Speaker 9 (11:00):
Well, listen, I mean, he's a bad guy. There's no pirates,
and I think that's one of the the good things
about the Bluff is that, you know, you know, we've
become the customs. A lot of sort of comedic takes
on it, you know, our action takes. You know this
this is a kind of a gritty look at some
of the right the reality of these we're bad men
that you know, the brutal things. But you know, you know,
(11:23):
to me, I think that you know, this film it
just it fires on all cylinders, like it's a lit fuse.
It's like once it starts, it's relentless and it doesn't
give up.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
It sounds exhausting. I'm not sure what the running time is,
but it certainly sounds like one of those movies. You
want to make sure you've been to the lou before
you go in. You know you want to miss any
of that I Am Glen Hart that has been used
to said Bean. You can go up and listen to
the Infinite Monkey Cage now and I'll see you back
here again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
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