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August 5, 2026 14 mins

FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) Why Isn't He Better at This By Now?/Massage Can Be Medical/Young People Are Useless/Paying More for Less/What Are Pom-Poms About?

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said Talk. Hello, I'm my beautiful beanies, and
welcome to the being for Thursday. First of yesterday's news.
I am Glen Heart. We're looking back at Wednesday and
the best thing about going to prison is all the messages.
Apparently Ryan has got hardware store issues. I didn't expect

(00:43):
to hear from him, but there you go. What's happening
with self checkouts in New York and should it happen here?
And Matt makes another fashion mistake. But before any of that,
christpher Luxon's leadership style under scrutiny again, of course, after

(01:07):
accusing grover a Businesses of being childish wanting more handouts.
Heather was back on deck yesterday. She's got a few thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
There is a reason why, as he says, businesses look
like children to the government to find out what the
government is going to do. It is because that government
is constantly inserting itself into business. I mean, look at
Nichola Willis, Chris's right hand woman. She has threatened to
break up Foodstuffs that is essentially a company made up
of franchises owned by Kiwi business people. She has threatened

(01:38):
also to put a tax on banks. Winston Peters is
running on a policy of breaking up gen Taylor's. If
the government is constantly talking about what it's going to
do to businesses, of course businesses are going to consider
at all times the impact of the government and look
to the government to find out what it is that
they're going to do. And this, to be fair, isn't
a problem that just is, you know, a luxe and problem.

(02:00):
This actually dates back even it predates Luxem's government, doesn't
it just in it did the same thing she did
all of the same stuff. Clark's government broke up telecom.
And that's without even mentioning the over regulation in this country,
which means that a lot of the time, in order
for businesses to actually start doing their business properly, they
need the government to cut regulation. So once again they
find themselves looking to the government to find out what

(02:21):
the government's going to do. Now, on top of all
of this, there is another reason why this blew up
on my phone on holiday, which is because it took
people by surprise that Chris Luxen could make a silly
mistake like this, this close to an election involving his
own voting base.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, that's probably fear, isn't it. Don't talk down to
people who you expect to vote for you, don't give
them a reason to change his minds. There and as
strange as and after all this time, he still hasn't

(02:58):
quite got the hang of that day news talk zip been.
And that's before the startling revelation that we've spent literally
millions of day is messaging prisoners. It's the kind of
thing that you think is made up, but then you
hear it and you start and then you start thinking, oh,

(03:20):
maybe they do need a message.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
All the courses in the world don't seem to make
a blind bit of difference, but having a purpose, either
through God or through family. And the second tier would
be getting a job having a message every Sunday in
your cell. I don't see how that's going to help.

(03:42):
Love to hear from you. Eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call for those of you
who have been there, done that. I would love to
hear from you.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
What does work?

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Where should rehabilitation money for rehabilitation go? What programs do
you think are required for those who have provided services,
does to get people back on their feet, either inside
prison or out again. Given the huge menu of options

(04:17):
we have now in terms of alternative healthcare, what works, Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call,
because I'm sure we wouldn't begrudge nine million dollars being
spent on keeping people out of prison. We would get
we would get that money back and no time at all.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I just can't help thinking it's a message. I mean,
and it's one of those stories that I don't think
many of us can be who bothered getting bogged down
into the actual details of it. Like people, I don't
think anybody went, oh, let's go, it'spend millions of dollars
message in prisoners. I mean, there would have been a

(05:00):
train of events. I mean, I'm just reflected last time
I broke a shoulder. I'm kind of a recidiv us
when it comes to breaking shoulders, you understand. But the
last time, yeah, I had physio and there was quite
a lot of message involved in that, you know, trying
to make sure we were avoiding the frozen shoulder, which
I wouldn't worsh on anybody. That's like you literally can't

(05:21):
move your arm anymore. I think it's quite handed to
be able to move your arm in prison. I'm not
sure how many broken shoulders there are in prison though,
but there might be some, and then they might require message,
you know what I mean, Like, I'm just trying to
play Devil's advocate. It's hard, though, isn't it. It's pretty
hard us talk zippy, right. So Ryan went off to

(05:42):
Bunnings the other day and he wasn't impressed with the
standard of service. And so the trouble when you make
that mistake, as at a retail store with a high
profile media host, is that he might talk about it
on air and hundreds of thousands of people might hear

(06:02):
them talk about it.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
So I did what any reasonable person would do. I
began discriminating against the staff based on their age. Where
have all the wise older folks gone from hardware stores?
You know, you know what I'm talking about. You'll find
some bloke, gray hair, long in the tooth, gruff sort
of disposition in the paint section or the part where
they keep the power tools. They know their way around

(06:25):
a screwdriver. Used to be a carpenter, probably retired for
a job inside indoors, you know the sort I'm talking about.
You go outside to the plant section, You go outside
to the nursery, and there's a lovely lady there who
knows the hydrangers. We'll tell you which trees, which plants
are deciduous. You know, I have no idea anyway, end

(06:46):
up calling Mum, end up calling Grandma. How do I
get to the bottom of this? Where have all the
wise old owls gone?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Is it just me?

Speaker 5 (06:55):
There was like this is a true story. Last week
there was a woman in the store who obviously had
the exact same idea as me, and was goose guarding.
There was one old old fella who was on the
tools s guarding him. Wait waiting, I'm getting him next,
you know, So where have they gone? And it's not
to say that young people don't know what they're doing,

(07:16):
but if you've been round the block a few times,
you're more likely to, aren't you?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Young people don't know what they're doing. I think we
can all agree on that. I had quite good servious
the last time I went to Bunnings. I was trying
to buy a specific thing and I've looked it up
online and they had it. But I couldn't find it.
Bunnings is thick, you know, like a warehouse in there,

(07:42):
and and so one person took me to see another person,
and that person walked me to They hadn't even heard
of the aisle, but it was that's how big Bunnings is.
Somebody who works there. I hadn't even heard of where
it was. And then we eventually found a sort of
an aisle that wasn't really an aisle. It was just

(08:02):
sort of a stack of shelves off the end of
all the aisles. You know that area where they sort
of cut up the wood and loaded onto trailers, and
that's sort of area. It was there. And then she
couldn't find the thing either, and then there was so
I had at least three people crack squad and hunt

(08:23):
down the thing, and then turned out they didn't have
any that sold out. And then it also turned out
it wasn't the right one for what I needed anyway,
So I didn't actually buy anything, but I felt like
I got good service.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
City.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
There are self checkouts at Bunnings now that I think
of it, but they're not always open. I don't you
hate it when the self chick out isn't open? That's
chained across and you have to deal with a real person.
I hate real people, don't you.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
How do you think about this? The New York mayor
man Damie And now I haven't said his name out
loud before, so it might have an extra syllable there.
I should get it right. Let me just google that up.
Mum Danny's or around mum dani flip. You'd love this, Bob.

(09:11):
He wants to pass a law at the supermarket if
you do self checkout, your groceries should be ten percent cheaper.
How good does that sound? And make it the law
because it's what it would be costing. That's what the
soupermarket will be saving. That will be the component of

(09:32):
labor for those goods. So ten percent cheaper for self checkout,
that's the place I'd like to live. I probably do
self check I quite enjoy self checkout, but why not
make it cheaper? Any comments on that? You might be
a supermarket owner, you might be a punter, you might
be a checkout person that's been made redundant.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
It's a great thing, isn't it. I don't think he
was meaning it's a great thing to be made redundant.
I think that's what he meant. I mean, I'm assuming
there are a few things like that out there. It's
like the whole payWave, you know, keep and go transactions

(10:16):
that you somebody somewhere seems to be have to pay
extra for something which seems to cost less to do.
These things don't seem to make sense, do they? And
yet you know, whatever it is, if it's a change,
it costs more every time, isn't it. Maybe with again,

(10:36):
I want to this is the problem with me. I mean,
imagine being married to me. Imagine being married to a
guy who just always wants to play devil's advocate and
always tries to see the other point of view. It
must be bloody annoying. But I'm just thinking that you're
obviously quite a lot of people, you know, put through
you know, yellow Kiwi fruit, there's green ones because they're
like half the price and that sort of thing. So

(10:58):
I can said as possible that although you're not paying
a chickout operator, if the self chickout, it is costing
you some money as well. But maybe it balance that.
That's the only thing I could think of as far
as that one goes. News Talk zip Bean, not sure
where Matt bought that hat he was wearing yesterday, whether

(11:21):
it was a gift or as dan and of it.

Speaker 7 (11:24):
I compliment you on the beautiful beanie that's rocking a
pompom that you've got on today. I just say it
takes a certain fella, in particular a fella to be
able to pull off the pomp pom look. And I
think you're pretty much there. Yeah, pretty much over the
line with pulling it off the pompom.

Speaker 8 (11:40):
Yeah, it's only that there's two poms. There's a pomp pom,
not just a pomp Yeah, thank you. And also representing
my hometown with the Dunedin pomp pom actually the Sharks pompom,
the Dunedin Rugby club pompom. Great team out of Kittle Park.

Speaker 7 (11:53):
Yeah yeah, good, good lineage there.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (11:55):
I mean it's very scarfy, like not just the Dunedan scarfy,
but like the movie, the Robert Sarkis movie. That's exactly
what I'm picturing when I'm looking at you right now.
That was the look in the nineties. A lot of
pompom's going on. Obviously very proud with Dunedan.

Speaker 8 (12:07):
What does the pompom do? What does the pompom. Add
it doesn't make you any warmer having a pompom. It's
just the extra way, doesn't it. I mean it looks great,
It does look great. I mean is it just for aesthetics?
I mean maybe there's like a degree of extra warm
warmness that you get in that little pompo who made
a beanie and then when you know what to make
this beanie better, a pompom on top.

Speaker 7 (12:24):
I actually just looked up the origin of the word.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
You want to hear it.

Speaker 7 (12:26):
Yeah, so it comes from the French word pompon, which
means a small decorative ball or ornamental tuft made of fabric, feathers,
or will.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
It was widely used in.

Speaker 7 (12:36):
European military uniforms to decorate hats and show military rank.

Speaker 8 (12:40):
So it's actually a pom pom, but we just say
pomp pom.

Speaker 7 (12:43):
Yeah, because it rolls off the tongue bed right, Well,
I reckon.

Speaker 8 (12:45):
Just to save time in future, let's just drop one
of the poms. Just call it a pom, Just go pomp.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
So if that's the kind of thing that you're into,
that kind of conversation, it's available to you every weekday
afternoon on New Books. There'd be. I mean, how could
you resist? Of course there are other things called poms,
aren't we So I don't know if that's going to

(13:10):
catch on discalling pompoms pommed what if a pom is
wearing homhom you got a pom pomp pom. I guess
you could argue that it is a similar sort of
conversation on this show as well. I couldn't get remember,
it's quite clear memories of making my first pomp pom.

(13:30):
I don't know where exactly I was, assuming it was
probably at school, primary school. Maybe mum might have shown
me how to do it, but so I don't remember
where or who was teaching me to do it, but
I do remember the sort of the miracle of it
and how you know, you you cut around those those

(13:54):
cardboard rings. Have you ever made a pomp pom or
you just you just happy to wear them and you
don't know how they work anyway, it's a bit of
a process, but yeah, it doesn't look like a pompom
until the very last minute, where you'd guide it all
together and sat and fluffed it up a bit, and
then he said, oh wow, Goad made.

Speaker 9 (14:13):
A pom pom as usual, this last bit's gone on
a bit long, and I'm as usual, I apologize, and
as usual, I hope you still come back tomorrow for
another one of these, where once again I'll probably get
to the end, and then the end it'll probably get us.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
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Speaker 1 (14:33):
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