June 16, 2026 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) It's Enough to Make You Use Strong Language/The Other Kind of Move-On Order/Why People Still Smoke/Good Stuff On the Way/Pass it To Chris
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Harten. We're looking
back Tuesday. How does it feel when the powers that
be come along and take your house so they can
build a road the black market cigarettes? All the hot
(00:46):
thing at the moment, apparently is the media lefty liberal
if they put Hooton in charge of stuff and let's
celebrate the all whites at the World Cup before any
of that, MB misleading people about their immigration tech all.
(01:09):
They're complicated and disappointed, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So you're unhappy about this?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Oh well, I don't think anyone would be happy.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
About it this point.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I think the fact is it's not only the thirty
five million that they were working towards the project, but
for seven years of wages for all the people that
were working on that, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Yeah, that's true. Actally, Yeah, so there's this. I'm not
sure how that. I'm not sure how that's budgeted, but
I imagine I mentioned doesn't close those wages yeah, it
sucks so those.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
People that knew what they were doing, because I'm assuming
from what we're here so far that some people knew
what they were doing and they were deliberately doing it.
They were getting paid to do jack all and take
up a whole lot of people to laugh for a
ride for seven years.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
I mean that sucks well at some point, at some
points that were getting paid to mislead the minister.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
And I don't care what, I don't care what political
party is fort that sucks. No one should be happy
with that. And and I don't think that any any
politician that said that, like has the portfolio, has to
look through every single thing when there's people that are
paid well, because we know that there would be people
in that being hate very well to do that job,
(02:26):
to report, et cetera. I mean, they're not all, you know,
they're not all at the bottom of the food chain.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Are they so pretty far up there? I thought she
I thought that she'd said something very naughty there when
she said but I think it was just the quality
of the phone line. I think she said it sucks
with an S, not with otherwise they would have dumptor
(02:54):
surely news talk, right, so there's some people who are
very happy about having to move because there's a road
going in. It's just how it goes sometimes, isn't it.
Sometimes the greater good means we need the road were
(03:15):
your houses?
Speaker 7 (03:16):
But what options do you have if you have been
there and done that? Are there be plenty of people
who have had n z TA come knocking on their door,
especially with the highways between Auckland and Cambridge, between Auckland
(03:39):
and the Brindurwins really and they're still more looking to
develop that. Residents of Canterbury, you know where, what options
do you have? Have you been treated fairly? I mean
just looking at the prices that they're paying for the
to the residents of that part of gray Lynn, that's
(04:02):
market rates, which is fair enough. I mean you don't
want I suppose you do if you're the owner, but
as the tach you don't want the former administration going
in with an open checkbook. So no name you figure, No,
that's too low, Let's give you more. You know, you
would want to see market rates being paid, a fair
(04:26):
market rate being paid so that people want to stay
in the area they can if they want to move
on elsewhere, they can do that too.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I wonder if you.
Speaker 8 (04:38):
Like.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I don't think they try not to disadvantage you too
much today it's all sort of market value blah blah blah.
I'm just trying to figure out if there's a way
that you can get a pull out of it, that
they can pay us just that little bit more for
your news place where you end up going, and you
can add a pull into the equation, whether that would
make as a little bit easier. Stop being soll egally and.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Move on talk side.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
We're a lot about black market cigarettes, aren't we illegal cigarettes?
What's what's going on here?
Speaker 5 (05:07):
One of the here told me last night. Different guy
told me last night his mate went into a dairy
and asked for a pack of fags and the dairy
owner asked him if he wanted the cheap fags or
the other fags. The cheap fags were the thirteen dollar
packs that were hidden out of you. It was as
blatant as that. And then of course we had the
report last week saying black market siggi's now make up
a third of what people smoke in New Zealand, and
this week we've had a debate about whether we need
(05:28):
to believe those figures all night. Now, frankly, I believe
those figures. Don't believe those figures. It actually doesn't matter
because this is happening right Illegal cigarettes are here and
they are being sold for a quarter of the price.
Everyone knows about it. It means the government is missing out
on tax. And what I've been thinking about is whether
this is what we want. We have taken an activity
that for the most part, only hurts the person who's
(05:50):
dragging on that sigi, and we've turned it into a
way for criminals to make huge amounts of money with
the associated crime that comes with criminals getting involved in
a business. Have a look at what's going on in Australia.
The gangs are shooting at each other and drive buys,
the fire bombing shops like it is mental. How much
crime is now attached to siggi'sigi siggies, which when you
(06:10):
and I were growing up were fifteen dollars down at
the dairy. It was not a big deal. Now it's
a big deal. Now you got the gangs making money
off it and shooting each other over it seems to
be a little bit crazy. Is this the twenty first
century version of the twentieth century prohibition against booze.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
This time.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Back then it was jin. Now it's Siggi's prohibition never
works and apparently we never learn.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, sweet, I don't know. I'm kind of I kind
of think that if people want to hurt them upselves,
that's fine, but then they end up being a burden
on the health system and then it's like, well, what
are you doing? Come on, guys, I don't know what
(06:55):
you do about that? Is it? People who they've tried
vaping and then they realize that it looks ridiculous sucking
on those little machines and that big plume of vapor
and that unfortunately smoking stalk. Cool. I think that's probably
what's about, isn't it? Right? So the host on Newstalks
has be often criticized the general media, mainstream media of
(07:18):
being a bit too lefty, But I don't think Matthew
Houghton is that lefty. And now he's in charge of staff.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Is that what's happening? This is all a bit sort
of inside baseball, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
This is what the Post said yesterday about their new editor,
Matthew Houghton. Hooton CV includes being a young nat a
press secretary in the Bulger government, as strategist for Nashal
during the Don Brash years, an advisor for Actor, strategic
consultant for EWE Banks, most corporate sectors, government departments, and
the ultra riche and he even had a short lived
stint as Wayne Brown's advisor. Now, does that sound like
(07:52):
a lefty to you? Does that sound like a socialist?
It doesn't to me. If you read Matthew, and if
you meet Matthew and I have and I do, you'll
know he has one of the clearest understandings of how
power works in this country, both left and right politically
and at a corporate level and even into ol Mary
and I think this is interesting is about how we
(08:12):
define people on their politics. I think people in this
country are far too quick to generalize. I think a
lot of people don't quite understand politics. They don't understand
the difference between left and right, often confusing them between
conservative and liberal, and the difference that you're asked them
about the difference between demand side and supply side economics,
and well you get a little bit of confusion, but
that people will swear that the right wing. I've grown
(08:35):
frustrated at hearing supposedly right as people demanding government intervention,
not realizing that they're straying out of the lane. And
these are the same people who go all the media's
left wing and they're not. All the media is biased
and it's not anyway. Here's Matthew Houghton and he's going
to be the editor at the Post. The Post is
on a big growth path at the moment. I actually
(08:56):
think this is a genius move by Shine Boucher. I
think he's going to come up with some great stuff.
He doesn't have to be a journalist, he just has
to have a good brain. At Matthew Houghton has a
good brain. So let the ructions begin.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Do you think meant to say he thinks he's going
to come up with some great stuff? There was he?
I mean, if that was accidental the dad joke, part
of my brain certainly responded to it.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
News talk has it been.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I wasn't going to watch the All Whites the whole
game yesterday afternoon because I had things to do. And
by having things to do, I mean go to sleep,
because that's usually when I'm asleep. I know that's unusual,
but I'm here at four fifty six am talking to you,
which is why I go to sleep in the afternoon.
(09:47):
But yeah, I wasn't going to sleep watching that game yesterday,
was I?
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Oh, I thought that match was that was exciting?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Wasn't that?
Speaker 8 (09:56):
I couldn't believe it. I kind of remember all the
other matches that we've played it, but it seems to
certainly be the most exciting. The goals seem the most good, good,
the best. It seemed to f well. Oh, I thought
it was remarkable. I mean, I mean the coach, I know,
the coach afterward said it was unlucky we didn't win that.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I guess that's the thing. Would have been great to win.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
I'll take that eighty fourth versus twentieth. Yeah, that was great.
Started watching seven minutes and the goal couldn't stop. What
couldn't long breaks half? It takes a long time for
a football match, now, doesn't it. And what about the
TV the jumbo tron that was up high like in
a big loop.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
You watch that? Goodness?
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Yeah, I was all right, thought TV's into coverage. If
it was all right, I would have liked more coverage
from there rather going straight back to the studio. I
guess to budget and all of that too. Not a
lot of people on the ground, but yeah, that's exciting,
so I'm all in. I think people will be googing
up some of those key players and finding out who's
playing for who and where they are playing and where
they're from and all that sort of stuff. But yes,
I thought it was a tremendous performance. So i'd woken
(10:59):
up this morning and they said we're going to draw
two wall, I'd say, yep, we'll take that. So I
thought it was unbelieving and good to see. It was
totally full up to presume moment, mainly them. They were
our ratingans. And by the way, they had to go
straight back to Mexico after the event. They weren't allowed
to stay in America, which I thought was means spirited,
but yeah, they you know, and I hope they Yeah,
I thought it was a masterclass. I was just very
(11:21):
very good to watch.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
So yeah, a big tick today.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I had no idea, no idea. We are the worst
ranked team at the World Cup. Did you realize that? Why?
You know, a reasonable margin. I think there's a couple
of teams that are sort of getting towards down where
we are, and you know, like we're eighty fifth in
the world. I think after the World Cup that's going
to go up a bit because of that result yesterday.
(11:44):
But they don't do live changes during the tournament, apparently
to the rankings for some complicated Beefer reason. But yeah,
so when you think about it that way, you know
we are the worst team and yet we've just we
went bang bang, scored a couple of goals. We're tied
to being top of our table at the moment. I
(12:06):
hope we haven't fired all our shots. Yes, yeah, I
hope we've stool with the bit in the tank. For
Belgium and for Egypt, that will be all over Chris Wood, now,
they won't they Our whole strategy, Siver seemed to be
pass it to Chris Wood and then he'll pass it
to the other bloke, the young bloat, and then he'll score.
(12:28):
That was I mean, it was a good strategy at work.
But yeah, I think there's only so many times you
can pull that trick for the other teams to be
on to us. Yes, it was, it was fun. I'm
being hat almost got who I was there. There's been
news works you've been We'll see you tomorrow for more
(12:51):
fun stuff. Oh look all right, see I'm doing with
stuff pun now used.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Talks it been for more from News Talk Said Be
listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Harten. We're looking
back Tuesday. How does it feel when the powers that
be come along and take your house so they can
build a road the black market cigarettes? All the hot
(00:46):
thing at the moment, apparently is the media lefty liberal
if they put Hooton in charge of stuff and let's
celebrate the all whites at the World Cup before any
of that, MB misleading people about their immigration tech all.
(01:09):
They're complicated and disappointed, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So you're unhappy about this?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Oh well, I don't think anyone would be happy.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
About it this point.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I think the fact is it's not only the thirty
five million that they were working towards the project, but
for seven years of wages for all the people that
were working on that, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Yeah, that's true. Actally, Yeah, so there's this. I'm not
sure how that. I'm not sure how that's budgeted, but
I imagine I mentioned doesn't close those wages yeah, it
sucks so those.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
People that knew what they were doing, because I'm assuming
from what we're here so far that some people knew
what they were doing and they were deliberately doing it.
They were getting paid to do jack all and take
up a whole lot of people to laugh for a
ride for seven years.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
I mean that sucks well at some point, at some
points that were getting paid to mislead the minister.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
And I don't care what, I don't care what political
party is fort that sucks. No one should be happy
with that. And and I don't think that any any
politician that said that, like has the portfolio, has to
look through every single thing when there's people that are
paid well, because we know that there would be people
in that being hate very well to do that job,
(02:26):
to report, et cetera. I mean, they're not all, you know,
they're not all at the bottom of the food chain.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Are they so pretty far up there? I thought she
I thought that she'd said something very naughty there when
she said but I think it was just the quality
of the phone line. I think she said it sucks
with an S, not with otherwise they would have dumptor
(02:54):
surely news talk, right, so there's some people who are
very happy about having to move because there's a road
going in. It's just how it goes sometimes, isn't it.
Sometimes the greater good means we need the road were
(03:15):
your houses?
Speaker 7 (03:16):
But what options do you have if you have been
there and done that? Are there be plenty of people
who have had n z TA come knocking on their door,
especially with the highways between Auckland and Cambridge, between Auckland
(03:39):
and the Brindurwins really and they're still more looking to
develop that. Residents of Canterbury, you know where, what options
do you have? Have you been treated fairly? I mean
just looking at the prices that they're paying for the
to the residents of that part of gray Lynn, that's
(04:02):
market rates, which is fair enough. I mean you don't
want I suppose you do if you're the owner, but
as the tach you don't want the former administration going
in with an open checkbook. So no name you figure, No,
that's too low, Let's give you more. You know, you
would want to see market rates being paid, a fair
(04:26):
market rate being paid so that people want to stay
in the area they can if they want to move
on elsewhere, they can do that too.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I wonder if you.
Speaker 8 (04:38):
Like.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I don't think they try not to disadvantage you too
much today it's all sort of market value blah blah blah.
I'm just trying to figure out if there's a way
that you can get a pull out of it, that
they can pay us just that little bit more for
your news place where you end up going, and you
can add a pull into the equation, whether that would
make as a little bit easier. Stop being soll egally and.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Move on talk side.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
We're a lot about black market cigarettes, aren't we illegal cigarettes?
What's what's going on here?
Speaker 5 (05:07):
One of the here told me last night. Different guy
told me last night his mate went into a dairy
and asked for a pack of fags and the dairy
owner asked him if he wanted the cheap fags or
the other fags. The cheap fags were the thirteen dollar
packs that were hidden out of you. It was as
blatant as that. And then of course we had the
report last week saying black market siggi's now make up
a third of what people smoke in New Zealand, and
this week we've had a debate about whether we need
(05:28):
to believe those figures all night. Now, frankly, I believe
those figures. Don't believe those figures. It actually doesn't matter
because this is happening right Illegal cigarettes are here and
they are being sold for a quarter of the price.
Everyone knows about it. It means the government is missing out
on tax. And what I've been thinking about is whether
this is what we want. We have taken an activity
that for the most part, only hurts the person who's
(05:50):
dragging on that sigi, and we've turned it into a
way for criminals to make huge amounts of money with
the associated crime that comes with criminals getting involved in
a business. Have a look at what's going on in Australia.
The gangs are shooting at each other and drive buys,
the fire bombing shops like it is mental. How much
crime is now attached to siggi'sigi siggies, which when you
(06:10):
and I were growing up were fifteen dollars down at
the dairy. It was not a big deal. Now it's
a big deal. Now you got the gangs making money
off it and shooting each other over it seems to
be a little bit crazy. Is this the twenty first
century version of the twentieth century prohibition against booze.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
This time.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Back then it was jin. Now it's Siggi's prohibition never
works and apparently we never learn.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, sweet, I don't know. I'm kind of I kind
of think that if people want to hurt them upselves,
that's fine, but then they end up being a burden
on the health system and then it's like, well, what
are you doing? Come on, guys, I don't know what
(06:55):
you do about that? Is it? People who they've tried
vaping and then they realize that it looks ridiculous sucking
on those little machines and that big plume of vapor
and that unfortunately smoking stalk. Cool. I think that's probably
what's about, isn't it? Right? So the host on Newstalks
has be often criticized the general media, mainstream media of
(07:18):
being a bit too lefty, But I don't think Matthew
Houghton is that lefty. And now he's in charge of staff.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Is that what's happening? This is all a bit sort
of inside baseball, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
This is what the Post said yesterday about their new editor,
Matthew Houghton. Hooton CV includes being a young nat a
press secretary in the Bulger government, as strategist for Nashal
during the Don Brash years, an advisor for Actor, strategic
consultant for EWE Banks, most corporate sectors, government departments, and
the ultra riche and he even had a short lived
stint as Wayne Brown's advisor. Now, does that sound like
(07:52):
a lefty to you? Does that sound like a socialist?
It doesn't to me. If you read Matthew, and if
you meet Matthew and I have and I do, you'll
know he has one of the clearest understandings of how
power works in this country, both left and right politically
and at a corporate level and even into ol Mary
and I think this is interesting is about how we
(08:12):
define people on their politics. I think people in this
country are far too quick to generalize. I think a
lot of people don't quite understand politics. They don't understand
the difference between left and right, often confusing them between
conservative and liberal, and the difference that you're asked them
about the difference between demand side and supply side economics,
and well you get a little bit of confusion, but
that people will swear that the right wing. I've grown
(08:35):
frustrated at hearing supposedly right as people demanding government intervention,
not realizing that they're straying out of the lane. And
these are the same people who go all the media's
left wing and they're not. All the media is biased
and it's not anyway. Here's Matthew Houghton and he's going
to be the editor at the Post. The Post is
on a big growth path at the moment. I actually
(08:56):
think this is a genius move by Shine Boucher. I
think he's going to come up with some great stuff.
He doesn't have to be a journalist, he just has
to have a good brain. At Matthew Houghton has a
good brain. So let the ructions begin.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Do you think meant to say he thinks he's going
to come up with some great stuff? There was he?
I mean, if that was accidental the dad joke, part
of my brain certainly responded to it.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
News talk has it been.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I wasn't going to watch the All Whites the whole
game yesterday afternoon because I had things to do. And
by having things to do, I mean go to sleep,
because that's usually when I'm asleep. I know that's unusual,
but I'm here at four fifty six am talking to you,
which is why I go to sleep in the afternoon.
(09:47):
But yeah, I wasn't going to sleep watching that game yesterday,
was I?
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Oh, I thought that match was that was exciting?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Wasn't that?
Speaker 8 (09:56):
I couldn't believe it. I kind of remember all the
other matches that we've played it, but it seems to
certainly be the most exciting. The goals seem the most good, good,
the best. It seemed to f well. Oh, I thought
it was remarkable. I mean, I mean the coach, I know,
the coach afterward said it was unlucky we didn't win that.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I guess that's the thing. Would have been great to win.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
I'll take that eighty fourth versus twentieth. Yeah, that was great.
Started watching seven minutes and the goal couldn't stop. What
couldn't long breaks half? It takes a long time for
a football match, now, doesn't it. And what about the
TV the jumbo tron that was up high like in
a big loop.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
You watch that? Goodness?
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Yeah, I was all right, thought TV's into coverage. If
it was all right, I would have liked more coverage
from there rather going straight back to the studio. I
guess to budget and all of that too. Not a
lot of people on the ground, but yeah, that's exciting,
so I'm all in. I think people will be googing
up some of those key players and finding out who's
playing for who and where they are playing and where
they're from and all that sort of stuff. But yes,
I thought it was a tremendous performance. So i'd woken
(10:59):
up this morning and they said we're going to draw
two wall, I'd say, yep, we'll take that. So I
thought it was unbelieving and good to see. It was
totally full up to presume moment, mainly them. They were
our ratingans. And by the way, they had to go
straight back to Mexico after the event. They weren't allowed
to stay in America, which I thought was means spirited,
but yeah, they you know, and I hope they Yeah,
I thought it was a masterclass. I was just very
(11:21):
very good to watch.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
So yeah, a big tick today.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I had no idea, no idea. We are the worst
ranked team at the World Cup. Did you realize that? Why?
You know, a reasonable margin. I think there's a couple
of teams that are sort of getting towards down where
we are, and you know, like we're eighty fifth in
the world. I think after the World Cup that's going
to go up a bit because of that result yesterday.
(11:44):
But they don't do live changes during the tournament, apparently
to the rankings for some complicated Beefer reason. But yeah,
so when you think about it that way, you know
we are the worst team and yet we've just we
went bang bang, scored a couple of goals. We're tied
to being top of our table at the moment. I
(12:06):
hope we haven't fired all our shots. Yes, yeah, I
hope we've stool with the bit in the tank. For
Belgium and for Egypt, that will be all over Chris Wood, now,
they won't they Our whole strategy, Siver seemed to be
pass it to Chris Wood and then he'll pass it
to the other bloke, the young bloat, and then he'll score.
(12:28):
That was I mean, it was a good strategy at work.
But yeah, I think there's only so many times you
can pull that trick for the other teams to be
on to us. Yes, it was, it was fun. I'm
being hat almost got who I was there. There's been
news works you've been We'll see you tomorrow for more
(12:51):
fun stuff. Oh look all right, see I'm doing with
stuff pun now used.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Talks it been for more from News Talk Said Be
listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio
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