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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday, defense spending, warships. Let's hook
him to it and the economy more generally with Ryan
and then we'll hear from somebody called Glen And what
(00:46):
do you mean I'm only putting him in the podcast
because he's called Glen. No, it's because he was talking
about Sam Neil and the time he met him. But
before any of that, a guy called Paul Henry, another
one of these sort of stunt candidates, this time for ACT.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Paul Henry I think is the candidate get of the
election so far. Don't forget he was the highest rating
host of breakfast television in this country. He is immensely popular.
He probably I think, single handedly will lift ACTS vote.
At the very least he will hold it up. Paul
brings two things to ACT. The first is his absolute
(01:24):
belief in New Zealand. That is authentic. He's been raving
about New Zealand. As being paradise for years now. He's
done a TV show about it. When he says he
wants to be in parliament to sort out New Zealand's
prosperity for the sake of his grandkids, I absolutely believe
that to be true. The second thing that he brings
is entertainment. Actor has been struggling to get through on
the right. The headlines have been largely hogged by New Zealand. First,
(01:46):
Paul Henry, I think can get cut through with only
his wit. Go and have a look at that press
conference today. He was very, very funny. Now this is
not to say that Paul Henry is going to go
down well with everyone. There is a small group of
people out there who absolutely hate his guts, but that
is no loss to Act because those people were most
probably going to vote left anyway. My only hope for
(02:08):
Paul is that he doesn't come to regret this decision,
because going into parliament very rarely ends well for people
who have existing profiles and already successful careers. Somehow, though,
I think if that is how it goes for Paul Henry,
Paul's not going to give a damn anyway, so it
probably doesn't matter ten out of ten. This announcement is
brilliant for acts campaign.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, I mean it's certainly, it's got people talking, it's
got attention. I mean I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I don't just.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I'm not quite sure. I suppose he's as qualified as
anybody News talk Z been. Yeah. So, I mean, you know,
we had the Michael Law's thing and the talk of
Kerry Allen with New Zealand fairs as well. This is
what it's come to, isn't it. It's ever since Trump's
(03:02):
or is it ever since Hulk Hogan and Jesse Ventura
and people.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Like that, and you know, like.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
The hell Arnold Swartzenegger for that matter. Anyway, back to
Paul Henry, let's not gett distracted.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
He's going to go for politics and he will get in.
He'll be third or second or some he'll be in government.
And he's someone that everyone has an opinion on. They
either love him or he's not their cup of tea.
And that's fine because in media you've got have a response.
(03:36):
If everyone kind of like you're not going to do
very well, you end up doing real estate. That's what happens.
But anyway, he's a polarizer Peter Polarizer. That's some people
love him or hate him, and he's going for acting
good on them. They've got a guy that's got profile
and he's probably making the Michael Laws going to New
(04:00):
Zealand First seem less of a I wouldn't say water
cool movement, but less of a headline. Michael Laws for
New Zealand First is not such a big deal as
Paul Henry to act. And I'm seeing this the reaction
with the headline font of New Zealand Herald. They're excited
(04:20):
about it, so it's a big news story. My question
for you tonight, and I'll take note of these responses.
I think it will be quite telling. And I don't
care what people do. I love the fact we have
a democracy and people can vote with whoever they like.
They can vote for the least appropriate person, or they
(04:42):
can vote for someone that's going to be absolutely fantastic,
and the whole gamut in between. I think we've got
candidates are getting more and more candidates that represent that
full gamut. I guess you'd call it from one end
to the other. My question is it's quite a specific question.
If you have decided today you will be voting for
(05:07):
Paul henryk Oh, He's to me, I'm excited about this.
Will you change? Will you be changing the party you
vote for?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I mean, I guess. I mean, let's not pre judge,
I suppose, But what's what's the motivation here? There are
certain people who just have got to keep the spotlight
coming back to them, and they'll do it they I
don't know Paul Henry. I think I've talked to him
maybe once. He wouldn't remember it. Me who am I?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
This what's the motivation?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Why would you do this now? And it's just because
it's another way to Does he really want to make
the country better? Or is he just doing it because
he likes the attention. That's that's my nagging thought in
the back of my mind. You talk said, I wonder
(06:12):
what Paul henry stance is on defense spending. I'm not
sure if Heather got to that with her interview with
them esday evening. I wasn't listening. I was busy making dinner,
walking the dog. But anyway, I was here though, when
when Kerrie was talking about this.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
So we don't have to have a traditional navy, it
doesn't have to look like it did fifty years ago.
You know, with changes technology, the way wars of forught
w was a one if you could ever say that
wars can be won. But the way wars and battles
(06:52):
of fort now you'd need different technology, different capability. But
we have to do some spending.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Surely.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
For those who say we don't need to look at Europe,
the US said, you've done nothing for us, you haven't
spent any money, look after yourselves, and now they really
are playing catch up. Now we can stand on the
(07:22):
shores to the beat of rhythmic drums and sing give
piece a chance. Well, people take what they want, and
that is a valid option, even with a fleet. Even
with a fleet we could afford. We're not going to
be able to repel a serious invader, but surely we
(07:45):
have to play our part if we want to be
considered a serious maritime nation. I would consider that playing
our part and an interoperative alliance. That's what we have
to do, or that's what we have to make the
decision on. I'm all for doing a bit and not
bludging off our mates.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It's a funny old time, isn't it. In the world
we've really sort of hyped up the threat level to everybody,
haven't we. I saw an interesting info graphic on one
of the news networks yesterday morning, of all the US
warships that are in or around the straight up war moves,
(08:27):
it seems like every US warship there is is there.
I hope nobody's planning a sort of a Pearl Harbor
style surprise attack on the US. I'm not quite sure
who they've got left to do anything about that. I mean,
that never happened, would it? And if that would never
happen to them, surely it would never happen to us.
(08:48):
Who cares about us city Ryan does? Ryan cares about
us and our economy.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
American consumers are far more robust and confident than us.
They're far more robust and confident just in general, aren't they. Americans?
They spend like tomorrow they'll win lotto, and they basically
do that ninety nine percent of the time. We're far
more cautious here, and often with good reason. Not only
does that demand in America help push their economy along
domestic demand even when headlines suggest they shouldn't, but there
(09:17):
are ability there to dream big, invent new things, and
create value is important here. The AI surge, the share prices,
the investment it generates, the plants that builds, the jobs,
that creates the technology that we the rest of the
world then adopt. If success is a positive mindset and
(09:38):
unequivocal self belief, the Americans have it bottled and we
have it too. Perhaps we can take a leaf out
of their book and actually believe it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Ah jeez, this is one of those podcasts that makes
me feel uncomfortable today. I'm uncomfortable about celebrities running as politicians,
and I'm also uncomfortable about being told to be more
like an American, live more like an American. No, sir,
I don't like it. Used talk Ze Bean Sam Neil.
(10:11):
He was put essentially New Zealand, wasn't he. I think
you could say, no matter what nationarily you played on screen.
A guy called Glenn met him once, not me, this Glenn.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
You had an amusing interaction. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I had a brilliant interaction with him once. A couple
of years ago Christmas Day, my partner and I were
in Auckland saying in a hotel and we went to
the lift to catch the lift down for breakfast. And
as we're waiting for a lift. Another couple kind of
come up and wait beside us, and as the door
(10:47):
was open, there's Sam Neil staring at us and we
were like, oh, we were just I was speechless. I
just kind of looked at my partner and she looked
at me and we looked back at him, and he goes,
are you hopping in? And we I just phrase, I
just said, nay, it's okay. The door's crazed.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Oh clear the way he went, you're two star treks
to jump in the left.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, totally. And then we went down to the breakfast
level and there he was just having breakfast by himself
on Christmas Day. Oh really yeah, yeah, And it was
just unbelievable. I just couldn't. I was just like my
miss was just like go over and say hello again.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I was like, no, just in my lane.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
But maybe he would have liked to have.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah, but when the when the doors open on the elevator,
there's Sam Neil steering at you like, I mean, I've
seen famous people before from Afar, but not you know,
not quite like that.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Yeah, when you don't expect to see Sam Neil when
he you know, the elevator doors pope open and there's
doctor Ellen Grant.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
I go and get where you're coming from, Glenn.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even the couple beside us were speechless.
They were just like, what's that Sam Neil?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
So he didn't meet him, he just looked at him.
But we've all looked at Sam Neil, haven't we? What
was so special about that story? I'm regretting putting that
glean on this podcast now. Maybe I should institute it
that there's only room for one gleion on this podcast policy. Ah,
(12:27):
I suppose it was mildly irritating. I mean that story,
I mean the podcast have been raucously idicated, mind you. Yeah, yeah,
it's only room for one glean and most routes.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Actually, you see a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Of gleans working around here. I think they've all gone now.
It's just me. I think I'm the only glean here now.
And that's the way it shouldn't be. You can't have
too many gleans. I think that's all we can do.
And one's enough and I'm your one, and I'll be
back here again tomorrow. See there used Talking Talk.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
For more from News Talk, said B and live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday, defense spending, warships. Let's hook
him to it and the economy more generally with Ryan
and then we'll hear from somebody called Glen And what
(00:46):
do you mean I'm only putting him in the podcast
because he's called Glen. No, it's because he was talking
about Sam Neil and the time he met him. But
before any of that, a guy called Paul Henry, another
one of these sort of stunt candidates, this time for ACT.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Paul Henry I think is the candidate get of the
election so far. Don't forget he was the highest rating
host of breakfast television in this country. He is immensely popular.
He probably I think, single handedly will lift ACTS vote.
At the very least he will hold it up. Paul
brings two things to ACT. The first is his absolute
(01:24):
belief in New Zealand. That is authentic. He's been raving
about New Zealand. As being paradise for years now. He's
done a TV show about it. When he says he
wants to be in parliament to sort out New Zealand's
prosperity for the sake of his grandkids, I absolutely believe
that to be true. The second thing that he brings
is entertainment. Actor has been struggling to get through on
the right. The headlines have been largely hogged by New Zealand. First,
(01:46):
Paul Henry, I think can get cut through with only
his wit. Go and have a look at that press
conference today. He was very, very funny. Now this is
not to say that Paul Henry is going to go
down well with everyone. There is a small group of
people out there who absolutely hate his guts, but that
is no loss to Act because those people were most
probably going to vote left anyway. My only hope for
(02:08):
Paul is that he doesn't come to regret this decision,
because going into parliament very rarely ends well for people
who have existing profiles and already successful careers. Somehow, though,
I think if that is how it goes for Paul Henry,
Paul's not going to give a damn anyway, so it
probably doesn't matter ten out of ten. This announcement is
brilliant for acts campaign.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, I mean it's certainly, it's got people talking, it's
got attention. I mean I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I don't just.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I'm not quite sure. I suppose he's as qualified as
anybody News talk Z been. Yeah. So, I mean, you know,
we had the Michael Law's thing and the talk of
Kerry Allen with New Zealand fairs as well. This is
what it's come to, isn't it. It's ever since Trump's
(03:02):
or is it ever since Hulk Hogan and Jesse Ventura
and people.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Like that, and you know, like.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
The hell Arnold Swartzenegger for that matter. Anyway, back to
Paul Henry, let's not gett distracted.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
He's going to go for politics and he will get in.
He'll be third or second or some he'll be in government.
And he's someone that everyone has an opinion on. They
either love him or he's not their cup of tea.
And that's fine because in media you've got have a response.
(03:36):
If everyone kind of like you're not going to do
very well, you end up doing real estate. That's what happens.
But anyway, he's a polarizer Peter Polarizer. That's some people
love him or hate him, and he's going for acting
good on them. They've got a guy that's got profile
and he's probably making the Michael Laws going to New
(04:00):
Zealand First seem less of a I wouldn't say water
cool movement, but less of a headline. Michael Laws for
New Zealand First is not such a big deal as
Paul Henry to act. And I'm seeing this the reaction
with the headline font of New Zealand Herald. They're excited
(04:20):
about it, so it's a big news story. My question
for you tonight, and I'll take note of these responses.
I think it will be quite telling. And I don't
care what people do. I love the fact we have
a democracy and people can vote with whoever they like.
They can vote for the least appropriate person, or they
(04:42):
can vote for someone that's going to be absolutely fantastic,
and the whole gamut in between. I think we've got
candidates are getting more and more candidates that represent that
full gamut. I guess you'd call it from one end
to the other. My question is it's quite a specific question.
If you have decided today you will be voting for
(05:07):
Paul henryk Oh, He's to me, I'm excited about this.
Will you change? Will you be changing the party you
vote for?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I mean, I guess. I mean, let's not pre judge,
I suppose, But what's what's the motivation here? There are
certain people who just have got to keep the spotlight
coming back to them, and they'll do it they I
don't know Paul Henry. I think I've talked to him
maybe once. He wouldn't remember it. Me who am I?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
This what's the motivation?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Why would you do this now? And it's just because
it's another way to Does he really want to make
the country better? Or is he just doing it because
he likes the attention. That's that's my nagging thought in
the back of my mind. You talk said, I wonder
(06:12):
what Paul henry stance is on defense spending. I'm not
sure if Heather got to that with her interview with
them esday evening. I wasn't listening. I was busy making dinner,
walking the dog. But anyway, I was here though, when
when Kerrie was talking about this.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
So we don't have to have a traditional navy, it
doesn't have to look like it did fifty years ago.
You know, with changes technology, the way wars of forught
w was a one if you could ever say that
wars can be won. But the way wars and battles
(06:52):
of fort now you'd need different technology, different capability. But
we have to do some spending.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Surely.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
For those who say we don't need to look at Europe,
the US said, you've done nothing for us, you haven't
spent any money, look after yourselves, and now they really
are playing catch up. Now we can stand on the
(07:22):
shores to the beat of rhythmic drums and sing give
piece a chance. Well, people take what they want, and
that is a valid option, even with a fleet. Even
with a fleet we could afford. We're not going to
be able to repel a serious invader, but surely we
(07:45):
have to play our part if we want to be
considered a serious maritime nation. I would consider that playing
our part and an interoperative alliance. That's what we have
to do, or that's what we have to make the
decision on. I'm all for doing a bit and not
bludging off our mates.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It's a funny old time, isn't it. In the world
we've really sort of hyped up the threat level to everybody,
haven't we. I saw an interesting info graphic on one
of the news networks yesterday morning, of all the US
warships that are in or around the straight up war moves,
(08:27):
it seems like every US warship there is is there.
I hope nobody's planning a sort of a Pearl Harbor
style surprise attack on the US. I'm not quite sure
who they've got left to do anything about that. I mean,
that never happened, would it? And if that would never
happen to them, surely it would never happen to us.
(08:48):
Who cares about us city Ryan does? Ryan cares about
us and our economy.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
American consumers are far more robust and confident than us.
They're far more robust and confident just in general, aren't they. Americans?
They spend like tomorrow they'll win lotto, and they basically
do that ninety nine percent of the time. We're far
more cautious here, and often with good reason. Not only
does that demand in America help push their economy along
domestic demand even when headlines suggest they shouldn't, but there
(09:17):
are ability there to dream big, invent new things, and
create value is important here. The AI surge, the share prices,
the investment it generates, the plants that builds, the jobs,
that creates the technology that we the rest of the
world then adopt. If success is a positive mindset and
(09:38):
unequivocal self belief, the Americans have it bottled and we
have it too. Perhaps we can take a leaf out
of their book and actually believe it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Ah jeez, this is one of those podcasts that makes
me feel uncomfortable today. I'm uncomfortable about celebrities running as politicians,
and I'm also uncomfortable about being told to be more
like an American, live more like an American. No, sir,
I don't like it. Used talk Ze Bean Sam Neil.
(10:11):
He was put essentially New Zealand, wasn't he. I think
you could say, no matter what nationarily you played on screen.
A guy called Glenn met him once, not me, this Glenn.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
You had an amusing interaction. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I had a brilliant interaction with him once. A couple
of years ago Christmas Day, my partner and I were
in Auckland saying in a hotel and we went to
the lift to catch the lift down for breakfast. And
as we're waiting for a lift. Another couple kind of
come up and wait beside us, and as the door
(10:47):
was open, there's Sam Neil staring at us and we
were like, oh, we were just I was speechless. I
just kind of looked at my partner and she looked
at me and we looked back at him, and he goes,
are you hopping in? And we I just phrase, I
just said, nay, it's okay. The door's crazed.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Oh clear the way he went, you're two star treks
to jump in the left.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, totally. And then we went down to the breakfast
level and there he was just having breakfast by himself
on Christmas Day. Oh really yeah, yeah, And it was
just unbelievable. I just couldn't. I was just like my
miss was just like go over and say hello again.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I was like, no, just in my lane.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
But maybe he would have liked to have.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah, but when the when the doors open on the elevator,
there's Sam Neil steering at you like, I mean, I've
seen famous people before from Afar, but not you know,
not quite like that.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Yeah, when you don't expect to see Sam Neil when
he you know, the elevator doors pope open and there's
doctor Ellen Grant.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
I go and get where you're coming from, Glenn.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even the couple beside us were speechless.
They were just like, what's that Sam Neil?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
So he didn't meet him, he just looked at him.
But we've all looked at Sam Neil, haven't we? What
was so special about that story? I'm regretting putting that
glean on this podcast now. Maybe I should institute it
that there's only room for one gleion on this podcast policy. Ah,
(12:27):
I suppose it was mildly irritating. I mean that story,
I mean the podcast have been raucously idicated, mind you. Yeah, yeah,
it's only room for one glean and most routes.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Actually, you see a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Of gleans working around here. I think they've all gone now.
It's just me. I think I'm the only glean here now.
And that's the way it shouldn't be. You can't have
too many gleans. I think that's all we can do.
And one's enough and I'm your one, and I'll be
back here again tomorrow. See there used Talking Talk.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
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air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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