July 23, 2026 • 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Beans for Friday.
First with yesterday's news. I'm Glenn Heart and we are
looking back at Thursday. The Commonwealth Games haven't quite started yet,
but we're all at fever pitch for them, aren't we.
Ryan wants to wear about AI and we're going to
play podcast roulette because I don't think we've done that
(00:46):
this week and I like to do at least one
a week. But before any of that, Stuart Nash has
just done sort of the normal Russian roulette, not podcasts roulette,
and it's line up in his face again.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
But it's his lack of judgment and his indiscretion that
makes him really ill suited to standing for any kind
of public office. He can't just do a Michael Laws
and go from Parliament to regional councils to Parliament, you know,
you know, indiscreet, hopeless. Heather had a hot take on it,
(01:26):
saying that if you are an elector at MP, you
have to get back to work. You shouldn't be mucking
around taking them, you know, as much maternity parental leave
as you're illegally entitled to. If you've been elected and
your name is on the door, you should be back
at work straight away. I disagree with her respectfully. You know,
(01:49):
being a politician is hard work. It is a lot
of travel, it's a lot of slogging around. It's not
the same as being a radio host. I think if
you know the parental leave exists, every employer, every voter
knows that there is the possibility that if you employ
(02:10):
or elect a young person of child bearing age, and
that includes a man up until about well, god, Mick
Jagger is still tuning the matter, isn't he up until
about eighty, there is a possibility they can take parental leave,
male or female. I think it's a really, really hard
work and she was right to take the time off
(02:32):
that she did.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yes, one of my colleagues said, I can only hope
that this story goes away over the next twenty four
hours so I don't have to deal with it again tomorrow.
And I said, I think, unfortunately you work at a
stage of Gord news door za'd be and there's at
least four different quite hot button talk back topics that
you'll get out of this stuff, even though what Stewart
(02:53):
Nash said was actually quite a little. When I say
little thing, I don't mean it's significance. I mean the
amount of stupid stuff that he said wasn't actually that much.
But yeah, the ramifications go in a lot of different
ways off a lot of different people. News talk ze
been interestingly enough, though, Heather thinks that it's not just Stuart,
(03:16):
it's actually the whole New Zealand First Party that deserves
a bit of scrutiny, and she might be right.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Right Is it just me? Or is there anyone else
out there who thinks it's mighty rich of New Zealand
First to force Stuart Nash to resign given the candidates
and MPs they have defended for the most outrageous things
they have said. Is it not rich that Shane Jones
was on the radio today saying, yeah, sensible for Stuart
Nash to have resigned when he is the guy who
referred to the Prime Minister getting out knee pads for
Mody when he visited, and he is the guy who
(03:45):
used the butter chicken tsunami phrase. Now I was aware
of what was happening about seven pm last night. What
was going on was basically that New Zealand First had
told Stuart Nash that he needed to quit or be fired.
He tried to fight his corner, he was unable to
fight his corner, and he was basically told that was
the end of it. And I have to be honest,
I was really surprised by this because if this was
(04:05):
any other party, it'd be fine. But it's New Zealand First.
It feels off brand for New Zealand First. This is
a party that's made a virtue of resisting the Wokesters
and resisting the mainstream media. And then the minute the
Wokesters and the mainstream media get upset at Stewart Nash,
New Zealand First doesn't even hold its line for twelve hours,
just folds immediately. I mean that has got to shake
the confidence of voters who are attracted to New Zealand
(04:27):
First because they think that New Zealand First is going
to provide some sort of bulwark against the creep of
political correctness and so called wokeness. Apparently not, They will
fold within twelve hours. Now I can only guess at
why New Zealand First has folded on Nash and not
on Jones. I'm guessing it's because there are more women
voters in New Zealand than there are Indian voters. I'm
guessing it's because Winston prides himself personally on chivalry towards
(04:51):
women and this would actually personally offend him. I'm guessing
it's because Nash was already on his last chance after
the what is a woman thing in the agro text
to Todd McLay. I'm guessing it's because Nash was not
gonna win the seed of Napier anyway. So this gets
New Zealand First out of an embarrassing defeat by a
woman who's apparently distracted by her toddler because otherwise immediately
(05:13):
agreeing with the Wokesters in the mainstream media. Does really
seem quite a weird thing for New Zealand First to do,
don't you think.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, it's almost like they are led by a guy
who just does racist dog whistle politics leading up to
every election and then goes off to be foreign minister
everywhere around the world and gets on really well with
all the foreign countries. It'd be like being that inconsistent
with your philosophies and your policies, isn't.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
It you talk Siby right?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Are you just absolutely fizzing about the Commonwealth Games? No?
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Wake up, wake up.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Sorry, I didn't mean to immediately put you to sleep.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Wake up.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
The Commonwealth Games have started now. Originally I was really
down on the Commonwealth Games because it's such a fail
and Melbourne didn't want them, and Glasgow took them on
and they're going to be indoors for the opening ceremony.
But now I feel kind of that they've been left out.
There's been zero coverage. I don't even know how to
watch them. So we better talk about that a bit,
because I'll tell you what. We've had great discussions on
(06:12):
the show about the Commonwealth Games. And for those that
don't know christ Church, well, no, Auckland nineteen ninety christ
Church seventy four Auckland, and they're called the Empire Games.
(06:33):
And they might have been nineteen fifty six. They weren't
nineteen fifty six, they were nineteen fifty four. I think
they're probably fifty four. No, I think they're fifty six. No,
I think they're fifty four. It wouldn't be divisible by four,
but anyway, and some of you will have been to
the Empire Game, some of you have been to the
Commonwth Games in christ Church. Have we've been to the
Comyth Games in Auckland. So any of those discussions I'm
up for. So we should kind of give that a
(06:56):
bit because in their day they were exciting. In fact,
nineteen fifty they are in Auckland, so that's seventy six
years ago now, well, and that was a big deal.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, I think there were a lot of things that
happened at back in nineteen fifty that people considered a
big deal that probably not quite so exciting these days.
That's the expression you'd turn up for the opening of
an envelope. I came into work this morning to hear
(07:33):
a man travers out midnight to Dawn host giving a
running commentary of some Commonwealth Games action, only for him
to then be told by one of his listeners that
he was watching a replay of stuff that happened in
twenty twenty two. I mean, that's how interested we are
at the Commonwealth Games, right there? Isn't it? I do
(07:59):
feel of it. Sorry, you know, we've got some really
world class athletes involved, but it's not really a world
class competition, is it? It is cool to hate on
the conwell games now, though, isn't it. It's a bit
like when everybody decided they didn't like to feel as anymore.
So the music was stilled by call emoia you too?
(08:22):
You too is a one Are you two? Call again? Now?
I'll ask AI. AI will know if you too are
called again.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
It was an open AI model that the escaped where
it was supposed to be, went online, stole the login
details for hugging face, which is the other platform.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Interesting thing is what hugging face. So the victim here
did about it? They said that because normally you would
get another AI bot to go and attack the attacking
AI bot and they would have some kind of war,
and in they turned to a Chinese bot to do it.
Why the American bot didn't had so many guard rails
on it basically rendered itself useless. It wasn't good enough
(09:05):
to defend their system, so they went for a Chinese one. Fascinating.
So you have basically robots at war with other robots
and now no control over what they might do next.
And we've seen that this is a clear cut example
of it, and it's not the first one. AI Open
Ai has said they've had issues before. Apparently they've previously
(09:28):
admitted that their robots autonomously for extended periods took unwanted
actions to achieve their goals, including looking for ways to
act outside of its sandbox. Well, that doesn't sound very
good for us, does it. My question is, if you
have robots attacking robots, and Chinese robots attacking American robots
(09:49):
and robots doing what they want, how safe is any
of our information every time you log into a platform?
How safe is any of that information? And therefore, what
are you willing to give? What information are you willing
to give to those platforms? We just need to.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I mean, AI is great at some things and not
very good at some other things, and it's really not
clear which of those things are which. Because I asked
it the other day whether somebody was had died, because
I thought that somebody had died, but I wasn't sure,
(10:30):
and it Ai, well, Jim, and I was the particular
AI said no, this person is not dead. That's false.
And then that like there were half a dozen, you know,
just normal Google results from actual news articles underneath talking
(10:51):
about the tragic death of this person. So AI wasn't
even smart enough to do a Google.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Search, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
So that's that's a bit flawed.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I don't know if you want to hand over it,
you know, I don't know, or your financial details or
do you have heart surgery done by it? You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Hu's talk ze Bean.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It'd be like playing podcast really there. I mean, you
just don't know really what's going to happen when you
play an audio cat that's called Hosking pillow. The interesting
thing about this is that it's not from Mike Coskings
breakfast show. It's from the Afternoon show with Matt and Tyler.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Can we just have a talk about this pillow that's
sitting right next to your Matt Heath, Did you bring
that from home?
Speaker 8 (11:36):
No, that's pillow. Yes, pillow was sitting in the chair.
And so the last person to use the studio was
Mike Costking. So the studio is now running at about twenty
seven degrees and.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
There's a pillow on the chair. Is Hosking sleeping here
or something?
Speaker 7 (11:51):
I think you're onto something? Has it got anything else?
Is we bathroom being right next to you?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Mate?
Speaker 7 (11:57):
So I think he's Yeah, he settled in. He settled
in for life. I mean, is it good. It's not
a Gucci pillow, is it. I know he likes his
Gucci pillows.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
It doesn't actually look it looks like it came up
pilow actually, so maybe it doesn't his.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Good back support right there, it's kind of quite good
lumber support. But he's onto something.
Speaker 8 (12:12):
I just I just don't but I don't understand. It's
the temperature in here. We come in here, it's so hot,
it's like a sauna, and we have to lower it
down to a manly eighteen degree.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Yeah, I don't think he deals with winter very well.
Mike Costkin, is he still doing his lemon water? Is
it still a bit of lemon in that that rubbish pan? Okay,
so he's looking after his health with his lemon water.
Speaker 8 (12:29):
There's still a filthy piece of spat out citrus and
in the rubbishman as there is.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
I'll take the pillow for a while as well. With
some state.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
It is quite a bit of back and forward between
Matt and Husk, which makes it sort of worth listening
to both shows, I think, just to hear that bubbling along. Certainly,
Matt he's been guilty of making it, leaving horrendous messes behind,
not just in the bin, everywhere, the tritus varying sorts types.
(13:06):
I didn't I don't know where that pillows come from.
I wasn't a I don't think I've seen Mike using
a pillow. He has wound the air cone up a
bit recently, mind you. I put it on twenty five
when I come in because somebody whoever's in here before me,
so I think that's Marcus's producer Dan. It's not Dan anymore,
is it. He's left. I don't know who. I actually
(13:27):
don't know who Marcus's producer is anymore. It's bad, isn't it?
That we do work at opposite ends of the day,
But they like it really cold, and so I come
in and I to ramp it up, and I think
the Saint Mike's doing the same thing. So he puts
it on twenty seven, but I think he's probably aiming
for about twenty three to twenty four. But that's warmer
than he used to have it. I do wonder if
(13:47):
he's reached that stage in life where he sort of
needs a rug for his knees sort of thing. And
he started getting up on the chair to turn out
different lights. There's these stupid lights in the studio for
making the video lots better. But there's one that shines
right in his eyes, so he doesn't light that one on,
but he does like the other ones on because he's
also blind. It's complicated looking after asking I tell you anyway,
(14:10):
this is not the Mic Hosking one that's later, that's
called the Rewrap that podcast. This has been the one
that has everybody except Mike Hosking in it. That's called
News Talks ed Bean and it will be back with
a weekend edition on Monday. I'll see you then used.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Talking Talking ed Bean for more from News Talk said
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Beans for Friday.
First with yesterday's news. I'm Glenn Heart and we are
looking back at Thursday. The Commonwealth Games haven't quite started yet,
but we're all at fever pitch for them, aren't we.
Ryan wants to wear about AI and we're going to
play podcast roulette because I don't think we've done that
(00:46):
this week and I like to do at least one
a week. But before any of that, Stuart Nash has
just done sort of the normal Russian roulette, not podcasts roulette,
and it's line up in his face again.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
But it's his lack of judgment and his indiscretion that
makes him really ill suited to standing for any kind
of public office. He can't just do a Michael Laws
and go from Parliament to regional councils to Parliament, you know,
you know, indiscreet, hopeless. Heather had a hot take on it,
(01:26):
saying that if you are an elector at MP, you
have to get back to work. You shouldn't be mucking
around taking them, you know, as much maternity parental leave
as you're illegally entitled to. If you've been elected and
your name is on the door, you should be back
at work straight away. I disagree with her respectfully. You know,
(01:49):
being a politician is hard work. It is a lot
of travel, it's a lot of slogging around. It's not
the same as being a radio host. I think if
you know the parental leave exists, every employer, every voter
knows that there is the possibility that if you employ
(02:10):
or elect a young person of child bearing age, and
that includes a man up until about well, god, Mick
Jagger is still tuning the matter, isn't he up until
about eighty, there is a possibility they can take parental leave,
male or female. I think it's a really, really hard
work and she was right to take the time off
(02:32):
that she did.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yes, one of my colleagues said, I can only hope
that this story goes away over the next twenty four
hours so I don't have to deal with it again tomorrow.
And I said, I think, unfortunately you work at a
stage of Gord news door za'd be and there's at
least four different quite hot button talk back topics that
you'll get out of this stuff, even though what Stewart
(02:53):
Nash said was actually quite a little. When I say
little thing, I don't mean it's significance. I mean the
amount of stupid stuff that he said wasn't actually that much.
But yeah, the ramifications go in a lot of different
ways off a lot of different people. News talk ze
been interestingly enough, though, Heather thinks that it's not just Stuart,
(03:16):
it's actually the whole New Zealand First Party that deserves
a bit of scrutiny, and she might be right.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Right Is it just me? Or is there anyone else
out there who thinks it's mighty rich of New Zealand
First to force Stuart Nash to resign given the candidates
and MPs they have defended for the most outrageous things
they have said. Is it not rich that Shane Jones
was on the radio today saying, yeah, sensible for Stuart
Nash to have resigned when he is the guy who
referred to the Prime Minister getting out knee pads for
Mody when he visited, and he is the guy who
(03:45):
used the butter chicken tsunami phrase. Now I was aware
of what was happening about seven pm last night. What
was going on was basically that New Zealand First had
told Stuart Nash that he needed to quit or be fired.
He tried to fight his corner, he was unable to
fight his corner, and he was basically told that was
the end of it. And I have to be honest,
I was really surprised by this because if this was
(04:05):
any other party, it'd be fine. But it's New Zealand First.
It feels off brand for New Zealand First. This is
a party that's made a virtue of resisting the Wokesters
and resisting the mainstream media. And then the minute the
Wokesters and the mainstream media get upset at Stewart Nash,
New Zealand First doesn't even hold its line for twelve hours,
just folds immediately. I mean that has got to shake
the confidence of voters who are attracted to New Zealand
(04:27):
First because they think that New Zealand First is going
to provide some sort of bulwark against the creep of
political correctness and so called wokeness. Apparently not, They will
fold within twelve hours. Now I can only guess at
why New Zealand First has folded on Nash and not
on Jones. I'm guessing it's because there are more women
voters in New Zealand than there are Indian voters. I'm
guessing it's because Winston prides himself personally on chivalry towards
(04:51):
women and this would actually personally offend him. I'm guessing
it's because Nash was already on his last chance after
the what is a woman thing in the agro text
to Todd McLay. I'm guessing it's because Nash was not
gonna win the seed of Napier anyway. So this gets
New Zealand First out of an embarrassing defeat by a
woman who's apparently distracted by her toddler because otherwise immediately
(05:13):
agreeing with the Wokesters in the mainstream media. Does really
seem quite a weird thing for New Zealand First to do,
don't you think.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, it's almost like they are led by a guy
who just does racist dog whistle politics leading up to
every election and then goes off to be foreign minister
everywhere around the world and gets on really well with
all the foreign countries. It'd be like being that inconsistent
with your philosophies and your policies, isn't.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
It you talk Siby right?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Are you just absolutely fizzing about the Commonwealth Games? No?
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Wake up, wake up.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Sorry, I didn't mean to immediately put you to sleep.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Wake up.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
The Commonwealth Games have started now. Originally I was really
down on the Commonwealth Games because it's such a fail
and Melbourne didn't want them, and Glasgow took them on
and they're going to be indoors for the opening ceremony.
But now I feel kind of that they've been left out.
There's been zero coverage. I don't even know how to
watch them. So we better talk about that a bit,
because I'll tell you what. We've had great discussions on
(06:12):
the show about the Commonwealth Games. And for those that
don't know christ Church, well, no, Auckland nineteen ninety christ
Church seventy four Auckland, and they're called the Empire Games.
(06:33):
And they might have been nineteen fifty six. They weren't
nineteen fifty six, they were nineteen fifty four. I think
they're probably fifty four. No, I think they're fifty six. No,
I think they're fifty four. It wouldn't be divisible by four,
but anyway, and some of you will have been to
the Empire Game, some of you have been to the
Commonwth Games in christ Church. Have we've been to the
Comyth Games in Auckland. So any of those discussions I'm
up for. So we should kind of give that a
(06:56):
bit because in their day they were exciting. In fact,
nineteen fifty they are in Auckland, so that's seventy six
years ago now, well, and that was a big deal.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, I think there were a lot of things that
happened at back in nineteen fifty that people considered a
big deal that probably not quite so exciting these days.
That's the expression you'd turn up for the opening of
an envelope. I came into work this morning to hear
(07:33):
a man travers out midnight to Dawn host giving a
running commentary of some Commonwealth Games action, only for him
to then be told by one of his listeners that
he was watching a replay of stuff that happened in
twenty twenty two. I mean, that's how interested we are
at the Commonwealth Games, right there? Isn't it? I do
(07:59):
feel of it. Sorry, you know, we've got some really
world class athletes involved, but it's not really a world
class competition, is it? It is cool to hate on
the conwell games now, though, isn't it. It's a bit
like when everybody decided they didn't like to feel as anymore.
So the music was stilled by call emoia you too?
(08:22):
You too is a one Are you two? Call again? Now?
I'll ask AI. AI will know if you too are
called again.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
It was an open AI model that the escaped where
it was supposed to be, went online, stole the login
details for hugging face, which is the other platform.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Interesting thing is what hugging face. So the victim here
did about it? They said that because normally you would
get another AI bot to go and attack the attacking
AI bot and they would have some kind of war,
and in they turned to a Chinese bot to do it.
Why the American bot didn't had so many guard rails
on it basically rendered itself useless. It wasn't good enough
(09:05):
to defend their system, so they went for a Chinese one. Fascinating.
So you have basically robots at war with other robots
and now no control over what they might do next.
And we've seen that this is a clear cut example
of it, and it's not the first one. AI Open
Ai has said they've had issues before. Apparently they've previously
(09:28):
admitted that their robots autonomously for extended periods took unwanted
actions to achieve their goals, including looking for ways to
act outside of its sandbox. Well, that doesn't sound very
good for us, does it. My question is, if you
have robots attacking robots, and Chinese robots attacking American robots
(09:49):
and robots doing what they want, how safe is any
of our information every time you log into a platform?
How safe is any of that information? And therefore, what
are you willing to give? What information are you willing
to give to those platforms? We just need to.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I mean, AI is great at some things and not
very good at some other things, and it's really not
clear which of those things are which. Because I asked
it the other day whether somebody was had died, because
I thought that somebody had died, but I wasn't sure,
(10:30):
and it Ai, well, Jim, and I was the particular
AI said no, this person is not dead. That's false.
And then that like there were half a dozen, you know,
just normal Google results from actual news articles underneath talking
(10:51):
about the tragic death of this person. So AI wasn't
even smart enough to do a Google.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Search, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
So that's that's a bit flawed.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I don't know if you want to hand over it,
you know, I don't know, or your financial details or
do you have heart surgery done by it? You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Hu's talk ze Bean.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It'd be like playing podcast really there. I mean, you
just don't know really what's going to happen when you
play an audio cat that's called Hosking pillow. The interesting
thing about this is that it's not from Mike Coskings
breakfast show. It's from the Afternoon show with Matt and Tyler.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Can we just have a talk about this pillow that's
sitting right next to your Matt Heath, Did you bring
that from home?
Speaker 8 (11:36):
No, that's pillow. Yes, pillow was sitting in the chair.
And so the last person to use the studio was
Mike Costking. So the studio is now running at about twenty
seven degrees and.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
There's a pillow on the chair. Is Hosking sleeping here
or something?
Speaker 7 (11:51):
I think you're onto something? Has it got anything else?
Is we bathroom being right next to you?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Mate?
Speaker 7 (11:57):
So I think he's Yeah, he settled in. He settled
in for life. I mean, is it good. It's not
a Gucci pillow, is it. I know he likes his
Gucci pillows.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
It doesn't actually look it looks like it came up
pilow actually, so maybe it doesn't his.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Good back support right there, it's kind of quite good
lumber support. But he's onto something.
Speaker 8 (12:12):
I just I just don't but I don't understand. It's
the temperature in here. We come in here, it's so hot,
it's like a sauna, and we have to lower it
down to a manly eighteen degree.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Yeah, I don't think he deals with winter very well.
Mike Costkin, is he still doing his lemon water? Is
it still a bit of lemon in that that rubbish pan? Okay,
so he's looking after his health with his lemon water.
Speaker 8 (12:29):
There's still a filthy piece of spat out citrus and
in the rubbishman as there is.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
I'll take the pillow for a while as well. With
some state.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
It is quite a bit of back and forward between
Matt and Husk, which makes it sort of worth listening
to both shows, I think, just to hear that bubbling along. Certainly,
Matt he's been guilty of making it, leaving horrendous messes behind,
not just in the bin, everywhere, the tritus varying sorts types.
(13:06):
I didn't I don't know where that pillows come from.
I wasn't a I don't think I've seen Mike using
a pillow. He has wound the air cone up a
bit recently, mind you. I put it on twenty five
when I come in because somebody whoever's in here before me,
so I think that's Marcus's producer Dan. It's not Dan anymore,
is it. He's left. I don't know who. I actually
(13:27):
don't know who Marcus's producer is anymore. It's bad, isn't it?
That we do work at opposite ends of the day,
But they like it really cold, and so I come
in and I to ramp it up, and I think
the Saint Mike's doing the same thing. So he puts
it on twenty seven, but I think he's probably aiming
for about twenty three to twenty four. But that's warmer
than he used to have it. I do wonder if
(13:47):
he's reached that stage in life where he sort of
needs a rug for his knees sort of thing. And
he started getting up on the chair to turn out
different lights. There's these stupid lights in the studio for
making the video lots better. But there's one that shines
right in his eyes, so he doesn't light that one on,
but he does like the other ones on because he's
also blind. It's complicated looking after asking I tell you anyway,
(14:10):
this is not the Mic Hosking one that's later, that's
called the Rewrap that podcast. This has been the one
that has everybody except Mike Hosking in it. That's called
News Talks ed Bean and it will be back with
a weekend edition on Monday. I'll see you then used.
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