July 7, 2026 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) Why So Sensitive?/Cow Capping Bottom Trawlers/Sticking it to Trump/Who Gets Roads and Who Doesn't/Release the Beasts
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the being for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we're
looking back at Tuesday. Seems to be a lot of
tax talk of this upcoming election. I don't know if
Ryan's a fan of that. Text talk to find out
Trump's influence over FIFA didn't end up having any influence
(00:46):
over the game, obviously, which was probably the best outcome.
Toll roads More toll road talk. Why do some places
get toll roads and other places don't. Some places get
free roads and other places have to toll them? Complicated
business school holidays, horrendous for everyone. But first up, China
(01:12):
shooting missiles into the ocean.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Why do we care?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Please correct me if I'm wrong, But I can't see
that China has actually broken any rules here. China before
they fired the missile alerted US, alerted, Australia, alerted Japan
like that required to under international law before they do
a test like this. And even though there's a lot
of noise about them firing a nuclear capable missile into
a nuclear free zone. It was only nuclear capable, it
(01:36):
was not actually nuclear. It was a dummy So sure.
I mean, I would admit they were pushing hard up
against what people would be comfortable with, but then again,
missiles are generally not things that people are comfortable with.
As far as I can see, the New Zealand government's
angry response is just posturing because we are required to posture.
And the reason I'm not quite as worked up is
because this doesn't actually surprise me, because anyone who's followed
(01:57):
what China has been up to lately knows that they're
building up their military, and it's not just so that
they can put on an impressive military displays. Now, I
actually wonder if China, though, has made a bit of
a mistake here, Just like last year when they had
the live firing in the Tasman Sea, this kind of
stuff from China, I think might freak out people a bit,
or if not freak them out, at least wake them
up to the fact that China is not a benign
(02:19):
trading partner. It is a military superpower with clear designs
on something probably Taiwan, so I wouldn't be surprised if
this creates more support in New Zealand for upping our
spend on defense, which is actually what we do need
to do. And I wouldn't be surprised if this freaks
out some of our Pacific neighbors and drives them closer
to ourselves in Australia, which is actually what we want
them to do. And in a way, I actually don't
(02:40):
mind that China did that yesterday, if only so that
we can collectively wake up a little bit to what
is actually happening in our region.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, here, that makes a good point. I don't It's
not like they were doing a nuclear test. I mean, obviously,
I don't know. Can you put a nuclear thing onto
the missile that they were testing. Maybe, but they were
blowing up a nuclear bottom in the Pacific, which I'm
pretty sure there is what the anti nuclear thing is
all about. Anyway, this thing which apparently is super important
(03:09):
because it's been there for such a long time, and
that's somethings to be the only reason I'm going be confused.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Too used talk ze bean, right.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
So another thing that's a bit confusing is why people
will vote for more tax, which apparently is what a
lot of the sort of the Labor and Green party
plan is can they make that make sense to the
people who are sort of more right leaning in this country.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
We had the Greens yesterday come up with that policy
that was not serious but potentially quite destructive to our
standard of living. You can read it on the website.
It's four pages long. Two of the pages of pictures
and photos. Cows are gone, should be gone capped, Synthetic
night trate fertilizers should be phased out. Bottom trawling should
(03:57):
be banned. Zero detail on when, how, and the economic
impact of doing so in this four pages. Same goes
for bottom trawling. Seventy percent of our footing industry by
volumes caught by trawling within a meter of our sea floor.
Did you know that? The industry did you know? Worth
five billion a year sixteen thousand plus jobs. Dairies our
(04:18):
biggest export sixteen billion a year. To try and take
them down is to launch an assault essentially much like
the Chinese on our standard of living, akin to the
doomsday AI job wipeout that was once predicted to happen
but hasn't yet eventuated. On top of this, there's a
plan for more taxes which remember, even Tony Blair admits
(04:38):
is no plan for prosperity. The thing about the Greens
the river plan is that the partly right agricultural runoff
has made many rivers unswimmable in New Zealand. But simply
banning and taxing things does not solve problems. It creates
new ones, like how are we going to feed the kids,
(04:59):
create jobs or stay in the OECD.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I love the term cow capping to me with my
wa brain, that's a cow that's played it this first
piss match. And I also love the to every time
I hear at bottom trawling as well, because I know
(05:25):
what they mean when they talk about bottom trawling, and
yet I know what I feel like that means, and
it just makes me sort of do one of those
sort of half smiles to myself, what's wrong with me?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
You talk?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Sib So Basically, the world got the last laugh over
Trump's interference in the thief of World Cup, didn't we
What a shame it was? Belgian though you don't really
like Belgian Dowey, especially after what they did to us.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
I like what someone's written. Still, at least when this
world cover is over, nobody is going to remember how
this attempt to use political pressure for sporting game casistrophically backfired,
what with well fans having legendarily short memories and limited
capacity for malice. Yeah, it's it's backfired majorly, hasn't it?
As long? I don't think Trump's gonna even go to
(06:19):
the present the award at the final because he's come
across as such a unit.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You can always count on Marcus to revive sayings, turns
of phrases, turns of phrase, turn of phrasess anyway, you
know what I mean. I haven't heard somebody being called
a unit for a long time. I also like it
(06:45):
when you see his shamozzle as well. Yeah, I still
want Trump to be there when they present the World
Cup because I would love to hear him say something like,
wait a minute, this isn't a cup. That's what i'd say.
(07:07):
A bit of road talk yesterday. Some people get them,
some people don't. Some people don't need to get them
because the government pays for their roads. Complicated business, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Like?
Speaker 7 (07:19):
There are many regions that are desperately waiting for a
new road, would love to see a new road, but
they are so far down the list of priorities that
you know it'll probably be in your grandchildren's day that
the roads will be delivered. If NZTA wants to consider
(07:39):
a new road for tolling, there has to be public consultation.
The road must have a meaningful cost contribution to the
road cost, deliver value for money with the infrastructure cost
no more than twenty percent of the anticipated revenue, not
result in changes to traffic volume on other roads. So
(08:04):
when you look at the different roads around the country
that have been funded but have not been told, you'd
have to say they have plenties, probably had more than
its fair share. But at the same time, if you
look at all the different communities and regions that are
desperate for a road or a bridge and haven't got
(08:26):
one and don't look like getting one anytime soon, would
you be happy to pay a toll to get it.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I've got a bad feeling about the toll road that
I'm getting. When I say, I me and out my
Fallow High Biscus Coasters that this PenLink thing, I don't
know if you've heard of it. Basically, you turn off
the Northern Motorway before you get to Silverdale and it
goes across this place called still water, which is probably
not that still at the moment because there's probably a
(08:53):
bunch of cranes and things building a bridge across it,
which has turned out to be a bit more complicated
than they thought. It's got a very Auckland curl feeling
about this. It's been delayed and delayed and delayed eight
it's the latest I've heard. But it's one of those
things that I'm stating to think it's never going to
be finished, and there's just going to be all these
(09:15):
bits of it left behind were never actually going to
get a road. You don't need to hear about that
if you don't live there, So let's move.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
On news talks.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It been right school holidays? Don't you hate it? Even
if you don't have school age kids? They're everywhere you look,
aren't they? When you're out? And about that around the place.
You can't go to a shopping mall, about being confronted
with these horrible, poorly dressed, noisy and considerate weeks. Can't
(09:50):
walk the dogs, they're all over your parts. Can't they
go somewhere else? These kids?
Speaker 8 (09:56):
And do you monitor them or anything? You've got your
phone tracking where they are or anything?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I know where they are, and I have a couple
of because I'm in a small town, so I have
a couple of friends that own shot surround the area,
so if anything happens, they just go to them and
they'll get in touch with me or yeah they're our neighbors,
are they know them as well. And I'm just a
few a couple of k down the road, so they
can bite to me or scooter to me if they
need anything.
Speaker 8 (10:22):
So you say, they're pretty rambunctious kids, like you think
if they were in the house that they would cause
all kinds of problems, but they are You trust them
enough to just run around the park and sort sort
out their problems.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, that probably doesn't sound through responsible to that,
but no, they are they like that sensible kids. But
they just are the kind of because they need to
be occupied, busy, so you know, leaving them at home
to entertain themselves may not end as well as making
sure that if they have their scooters and their bikes, they're.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
Busy and and what kind of stuff do they get
up to?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Do they do?
Speaker 8 (10:57):
They do? You get the stories at the end of
the day, do they do they ever? I mean, you
live rurally, but you know, do they Is there ever
any problems?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Do they?
Speaker 8 (11:04):
I don't know, because when I was a kid and
I was left alone, I'd start throwing clothes at things,
you know.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Throwing clods, clods of what I presume of dirt. There's
another word that I haven't heard for a well, clod.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
See that woman's exactly that's exactly what's wrong. He just
sends that the kids off on their bikes. They're basically
they're basically a biking gang at that point, aren't they.
I mean, I know it's only push bike probably, or
is it these kids on these blooming electric bikes that
go just as fast as motorbikes anyway? Terrorizing old ladies
(11:42):
probably and old men like me? Is there actually anything
more terrifying than a bunch of inconsiderate, you know, twelve
to fourteen year old all amped up on them fully
charged scooters and bikes e bikes. The scooters and e
(12:03):
bikes terrible. I don't know what the solution is, but
it's all holidays. It's terrible time to be No wonder
you should lead the country. I am never ever have kids.
(12:25):
What I always say, I literally always say that you've
heard me say on this podcast like a million billion times.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
It probably not a million billion.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I mean this is only episode. What are we up
to three thousand, five hundred and thirty one, it's a
worth a million. I'll see you back here again for
three thousand, five hundred and thirty two tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Used Talking Talks.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
It been.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
For more from us, Talk said B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the being for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we're
looking back at Tuesday. Seems to be a lot of
tax talk of this upcoming election. I don't know if
Ryan's a fan of that. Text talk to find out
Trump's influence over FIFA didn't end up having any influence
(00:46):
over the game, obviously, which was probably the best outcome.
Toll roads More toll road talk. Why do some places
get toll roads and other places don't. Some places get
free roads and other places have to toll them? Complicated
business school holidays, horrendous for everyone. But first up, China
(01:12):
shooting missiles into the ocean.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Why do we care?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Please correct me if I'm wrong, But I can't see
that China has actually broken any rules here. China before
they fired the missile alerted US, alerted, Australia, alerted Japan
like that required to under international law before they do
a test like this. And even though there's a lot
of noise about them firing a nuclear capable missile into
a nuclear free zone. It was only nuclear capable, it
(01:36):
was not actually nuclear. It was a dummy So sure.
I mean, I would admit they were pushing hard up
against what people would be comfortable with, but then again,
missiles are generally not things that people are comfortable with.
As far as I can see, the New Zealand government's
angry response is just posturing because we are required to posture.
And the reason I'm not quite as worked up is
because this doesn't actually surprise me, because anyone who's followed
(01:57):
what China has been up to lately knows that they're
building up their military, and it's not just so that
they can put on an impressive military displays. Now, I
actually wonder if China, though, has made a bit of
a mistake here, Just like last year when they had
the live firing in the Tasman Sea, this kind of
stuff from China, I think might freak out people a bit,
or if not freak them out, at least wake them
up to the fact that China is not a benign
(02:19):
trading partner. It is a military superpower with clear designs
on something probably Taiwan, so I wouldn't be surprised if
this creates more support in New Zealand for upping our
spend on defense, which is actually what we do need
to do. And I wouldn't be surprised if this freaks
out some of our Pacific neighbors and drives them closer
to ourselves in Australia, which is actually what we want
them to do. And in a way, I actually don't
(02:40):
mind that China did that yesterday, if only so that
we can collectively wake up a little bit to what
is actually happening in our region.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, here, that makes a good point. I don't It's
not like they were doing a nuclear test. I mean, obviously,
I don't know. Can you put a nuclear thing onto
the missile that they were testing. Maybe, but they were
blowing up a nuclear bottom in the Pacific, which I'm
pretty sure there is what the anti nuclear thing is
all about. Anyway, this thing which apparently is super important
(03:09):
because it's been there for such a long time, and
that's somethings to be the only reason I'm going be confused.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Too used talk ze bean, right.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
So another thing that's a bit confusing is why people
will vote for more tax, which apparently is what a
lot of the sort of the Labor and Green party
plan is can they make that make sense to the
people who are sort of more right leaning in this country.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
We had the Greens yesterday come up with that policy
that was not serious but potentially quite destructive to our
standard of living. You can read it on the website.
It's four pages long. Two of the pages of pictures
and photos. Cows are gone, should be gone capped, Synthetic
night trate fertilizers should be phased out. Bottom trawling should
(03:57):
be banned. Zero detail on when, how, and the economic
impact of doing so in this four pages. Same goes
for bottom trawling. Seventy percent of our footing industry by
volumes caught by trawling within a meter of our sea floor.
Did you know that? The industry did you know? Worth
five billion a year sixteen thousand plus jobs. Dairies our
(04:18):
biggest export sixteen billion a year. To try and take
them down is to launch an assault essentially much like
the Chinese on our standard of living, akin to the
doomsday AI job wipeout that was once predicted to happen
but hasn't yet eventuated. On top of this, there's a
plan for more taxes which remember, even Tony Blair admits
(04:38):
is no plan for prosperity. The thing about the Greens
the river plan is that the partly right agricultural runoff
has made many rivers unswimmable in New Zealand. But simply
banning and taxing things does not solve problems. It creates
new ones, like how are we going to feed the kids,
(04:59):
create jobs or stay in the OECD.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I love the term cow capping to me with my
wa brain, that's a cow that's played it this first
piss match. And I also love the to every time
I hear at bottom trawling as well, because I know
(05:25):
what they mean when they talk about bottom trawling, and
yet I know what I feel like that means, and
it just makes me sort of do one of those
sort of half smiles to myself, what's wrong with me?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
You talk?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Sib So Basically, the world got the last laugh over
Trump's interference in the thief of World Cup, didn't we
What a shame it was? Belgian though you don't really
like Belgian Dowey, especially after what they did to us.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
I like what someone's written. Still, at least when this
world cover is over, nobody is going to remember how
this attempt to use political pressure for sporting game casistrophically backfired,
what with well fans having legendarily short memories and limited
capacity for malice. Yeah, it's it's backfired majorly, hasn't it?
As long? I don't think Trump's gonna even go to
(06:19):
the present the award at the final because he's come
across as such a unit.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You can always count on Marcus to revive sayings, turns
of phrases, turns of phrase, turn of phrasess anyway, you
know what I mean. I haven't heard somebody being called
a unit for a long time. I also like it
(06:45):
when you see his shamozzle as well. Yeah, I still
want Trump to be there when they present the World
Cup because I would love to hear him say something like,
wait a minute, this isn't a cup. That's what i'd say.
(07:07):
A bit of road talk yesterday. Some people get them,
some people don't. Some people don't need to get them
because the government pays for their roads. Complicated business, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Like?
Speaker 7 (07:19):
There are many regions that are desperately waiting for a
new road, would love to see a new road, but
they are so far down the list of priorities that
you know it'll probably be in your grandchildren's day that
the roads will be delivered. If NZTA wants to consider
(07:39):
a new road for tolling, there has to be public consultation.
The road must have a meaningful cost contribution to the
road cost, deliver value for money with the infrastructure cost
no more than twenty percent of the anticipated revenue, not
result in changes to traffic volume on other roads. So
(08:04):
when you look at the different roads around the country
that have been funded but have not been told, you'd
have to say they have plenties, probably had more than
its fair share. But at the same time, if you
look at all the different communities and regions that are
desperate for a road or a bridge and haven't got
(08:26):
one and don't look like getting one anytime soon, would
you be happy to pay a toll to get it.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I've got a bad feeling about the toll road that
I'm getting. When I say, I me and out my
Fallow High Biscus Coasters that this PenLink thing, I don't
know if you've heard of it. Basically, you turn off
the Northern Motorway before you get to Silverdale and it
goes across this place called still water, which is probably
not that still at the moment because there's probably a
(08:53):
bunch of cranes and things building a bridge across it,
which has turned out to be a bit more complicated
than they thought. It's got a very Auckland curl feeling
about this. It's been delayed and delayed and delayed eight
it's the latest I've heard. But it's one of those
things that I'm stating to think it's never going to
be finished, and there's just going to be all these
(09:15):
bits of it left behind were never actually going to
get a road. You don't need to hear about that
if you don't live there, So let's move.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
On news talks.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It been right school holidays? Don't you hate it? Even
if you don't have school age kids? They're everywhere you look,
aren't they? When you're out? And about that around the place.
You can't go to a shopping mall, about being confronted
with these horrible, poorly dressed, noisy and considerate weeks. Can't
(09:50):
walk the dogs, they're all over your parts. Can't they
go somewhere else? These kids?
Speaker 8 (09:56):
And do you monitor them or anything? You've got your
phone tracking where they are or anything?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I know where they are, and I have a couple
of because I'm in a small town, so I have
a couple of friends that own shot surround the area,
so if anything happens, they just go to them and
they'll get in touch with me or yeah they're our neighbors,
are they know them as well. And I'm just a
few a couple of k down the road, so they
can bite to me or scooter to me if they
need anything.
Speaker 8 (10:22):
So you say, they're pretty rambunctious kids, like you think
if they were in the house that they would cause
all kinds of problems, but they are You trust them
enough to just run around the park and sort sort
out their problems.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, that probably doesn't sound through responsible to that,
but no, they are they like that sensible kids. But
they just are the kind of because they need to
be occupied, busy, so you know, leaving them at home
to entertain themselves may not end as well as making
sure that if they have their scooters and their bikes, they're.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
Busy and and what kind of stuff do they get
up to?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Do they do?
Speaker 8 (10:57):
They do? You get the stories at the end of
the day, do they do they ever? I mean, you
live rurally, but you know, do they Is there ever
any problems?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Do they?
Speaker 8 (11:04):
I don't know, because when I was a kid and
I was left alone, I'd start throwing clothes at things,
you know.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Throwing clods, clods of what I presume of dirt. There's
another word that I haven't heard for a well, clod.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
See that woman's exactly that's exactly what's wrong. He just
sends that the kids off on their bikes. They're basically
they're basically a biking gang at that point, aren't they.
I mean, I know it's only push bike probably, or
is it these kids on these blooming electric bikes that
go just as fast as motorbikes anyway? Terrorizing old ladies
(11:42):
probably and old men like me? Is there actually anything
more terrifying than a bunch of inconsiderate, you know, twelve
to fourteen year old all amped up on them fully
charged scooters and bikes e bikes. The scooters and e
(12:03):
bikes terrible. I don't know what the solution is, but
it's all holidays. It's terrible time to be No wonder
you should lead the country. I am never ever have kids.
(12:25):
What I always say, I literally always say that you've
heard me say on this podcast like a million billion times.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
It probably not a million billion.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I mean this is only episode. What are we up
to three thousand, five hundred and thirty one, it's a
worth a million. I'll see you back here again for
three thousand, five hundred and thirty two tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Used Talking Talks.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
It been.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
For more from us, Talk said B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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