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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanings, and welcome to the being called Wednesday,
first of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday. We Luxon really copped it
for a sort of weird managements for speech praising on Monday,
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and people were just looking at some kind of definitive
policy on the war. That's just sense to be kicking
up polls. Why are we talking about AI and the
fact that it's costing people their jobs and we're going
to finish up with that once in a lifetime astronomical
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of some kind of blood moon thing that seems to
happen every second week. But before any of that, yes,
the Iran and the war and is it actually going
to escalate to the worst possible scenario they.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Can and having Russia as your mate, don't attack me.
I've got Russia and McConner is all very well and good,
but as Syria's Bushia al Assad and Venezuela's Maduro and
now the Muller's in Iran have found Russia right now
is all talk and no trousers. It can do a
great line and rhetoric, and they've given their friends a
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lot of verbal support, which will be pretty cold comfort.
But when it comes to on the ground troops and
military resources to go in and back up their mates,
they're all tied up in Ukraine right now, and Russia
won't want to commit to war on two fronts in
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two different zones. So mutually assured destruction, the threat of one,
keeping of someone pressing the button keeping you from pressing
yours worked before tensions eased and there was a relative
period of peace. Can you see the same thing happening again.
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Tensions will rise, tensions will get high, people will get
very nervous, and then we can all relax. Do you
see New Zealand's isolation as its best defense?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, I mean I was thinking about this. You stay,
the rush will be on. All the billionaires will be
coming down here. The demand that bunkers will nearly so high.
You've got a bunker, get it up there on the market.
You basically asked, whatever you wanton the moment.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
News talk.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So anyway, as I've already talked about and some of
my podcast this week, my major concern over this war
is very selfish. I'm supposed to be flying through Dubai
to Europe and May for very earth wedding anniversary trips
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that still on. Can anybody give me a straight answer,
Prime Minister, can you give me a straight answer please?
Speaker 5 (03:43):
If he says he opposes the US air strikes, then
he runs the risks of the risk of that becoming
a global headline, as in New Zealand criticizes US air
strikes and then getting the country offside with the most
volatile US president in modern history and whatever that brings
with it. So, either way, he's in a bit of
a position, isn't he. A generous interpretation is that he's
trying to protect New Zealand from Trump. At least generous
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interpretation is he's trying to protect himself from unhappy voters. Now,
the problem with that is that it always ends up
where it always ends up with Chris Luxon trying to
avoid a position. He looks clumsy and he looks uncertain.
It makes mistakes like saying that he supports anything the
US may do to prevent nuclear weapons, including carpet bombing,
which he's now had to walk back today Now Luxon's
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been here before, hasn't he. I mean, remember the three
minute interview with Mike Hosking where he didn't want to
take a position on whether he would have sacked Andrew
Bailey or not. I'd say in not wanting to pick
between the two positions on the air strikes as in
supporting or not supporting, he ended up creating a third position,
which was to make himself look foolish, and that for
a leader in election year is the worst choice. Possibly
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it is better, I think, to pick a position, even
if it is an unpopular position, than to look like
he does today.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, I mean, I probe it for me to advise
the prime ministers of what to do. The people don't
like it when you just hold back from having an
opinion about things. I think here is absolutely right. There
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better to have a crazy opinion than no opinion at all.
Sometimes this is what's affecting has a performance in National's
performance in the polls generally. See the polls are stupid.
I think we've established that, and yet certainly there seems
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to be a lot of them that say that lux
is not doing very well to.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Should you know it should have given you the idea Okay,
do you agree? Do you like this? Do you want this?
And if a party here has the policies I like,
I will vote to them. I've voted between labor and
New Zealand foods most of my life. I've never voted
for national although I'm just play almost this last time
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for the first I've ever. But mostly it was always lady, do.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
You reach out to.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Like?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Do you sit around you say you love doing poles base?
Do you sit around and wait for someone to run?
Speaker 6 (06:18):
I haven't had one presented to me for years.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, that's what it's going to say. They come how
they come, Because you know, you can go on like
ipsos or whatever, you can go on and choose to
opt into poles.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Would you ever do that?
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Okay, I'll should do that. I will do that because yes,
I will do this. Right, So I didn't realize. I
didn't realize years ago you know that come to you,
So I sort of get stuck in the past sometimes.
So I didn't realize sent me here too.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
You don't have to do it.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So it's an interesting point, isn't it. It's going to
be people like Venora if that is her real name,
if that is a real name rushing off to opt
in to do a pole? Is that indicative of? Is
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it really indicative of? It's like the whole Jury Service
slash Council's situation when the kind of people who want
to participate in these things aren't necessarily the kind of
people you want to be doing these kinds of things.
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Are they always? No offense for Noora. But you certainly
sound like you're really into poles, and I just think
if you're really into poles, you peraps shouldn't do a pole.
I'm probably wrong about that.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Use City.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Okay, a little AI apocalypse update for you. It's on,
it's happening. What's his name? Jack Dorsey sounds like a
hero and a parts of the Caribbean. You don't. He's
no hero, I don't think. But he's influential when it
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comes to the internet. Started Twitter got out of that
before I turn into a flaming dung pyle, and it's
still behind things like Squarespace for example. Anyway, he's fired
everybody because AI can do their job.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
Burger King in the US, this is a story out
this week is trialing AI software to judge how courteous
and friendly it's staff are I know it sounds weird,
that is weird. They've got an aptly named AI assistant, Patty,
apparently doing this task for them now. Patty lives in
their headsets, poor things, monitoring their every word. So if
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you're handing out wappers at a drive through, Patty will
apparently record how many times you say welcome, please, and
thank you. Patty then delivers the Whopper crew a daily
friendliness score. Apart from sounding like peak micro managing and
a pain in the backside, Patty with respect actually doesn't
know what she or at is talking about. Can Patty
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detect sarcasm? Does Patty know if you're dead in the
eyes while you're welcoming the next hungry customer? Customer service
isn't so much about what somebody says, but how they
say it. It's that glint in their eye, it's in
an affectation of their face and Japan a polite bow
of the head. In New Zealand, too much talking or
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fake friendly could be seen as rude. Am I right,
We're a bit like that here. We're more of a
smile and polite hand gesture type country, aren't we. Human
interaction is intricate. It's unique. It takes even trained humans
time to properly figure out how you're really feeling. We
humans have more than forty facial muscles, and using them
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in different ways can apparently lead us to ten thousand
subtle emotional messages that we convey to one another. Isn't
that fascinating? I went to the bank yesterday to order
an f postcard. Bank manager came over, set hello. Can't
tell you most of what she said to me, but
I know that she was lovely. Went home told my
partner how lovely this woman at the bank was. Is
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this a job that AI can master? I mean, really,
even if Paddy had a camera on our eyeballs, a
microphone and a pulse checker, I don't think it could
truly tell what we're really thinking in a way that
only other humans can.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And I'm not convinced that that sort of middle management.
Isn't it that that burger king won thanking? Sure everybody's
doing a good customer service. That's one of those They
come for the medal managers first, don't they. I think, Sorry,
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guys and ladies, news talk z been podcasts will be next.
Sorry me, We're going to finish up here with the latest.
Once in a lifetime, hardly ever happened, seems to happen
every second week. Astronomical event. Oh it's Marcus bringing us
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what a surprise.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Just made the worst cup of tea in history. I
thought I'd put the tea bag in, but I hadn't,
so I put the water in first, in the tea
bag in and it's just white. There's no color there
at all? What's that about? Try to do too much
of my news break? How are you going people?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
What's happening there?
Speaker 7 (11:24):
And listening?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Land?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
All good?
Speaker 7 (11:26):
How's the moon? How's the moon? So it was eleven
pm tonight the best time to get out of bed
and watch the red moon. We are in Todonga. It
doesn't matter where you are in New Zealand because we're
a vertical country. We're not a horizontal country. That's my understanding.
It's midnight is when you want to get up up
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and at him. But it's just moonsh moon, because what
will happen tomorrow. What you want to do is, here's
what you want to do, because I've done blood moons before.
What you want to do is get up and go
to the pantry and cut yourself a slice of salami
and then you take a shot of that, and then
you post that and then you say, oh, pretty amazing
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blood moon. It looks just like a slight. People be
doing it. It's the meme from three years ago all
over again. Oh is it a blood moon? Is it salami?
It looks just like salami. You know it, I know it,
we know it.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Oh, surprisingly cynacle from Marcus Thea. But like me, is
that the salami thing?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Where the idea for that song when the moon hits
your eye like a big pizza pie? If the more
came from where they're talking about a blood moon? And
also that is weird with the tea that does it?
Speaker 8 (12:45):
Does?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
It does go wrong sometimes, isn't it the tea for
no apparent reason. It's like some tea bags just aren't
as What do you call it when water can go
through it? I can't remember of a gone blink a
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word for it. It's not perforated porous. Yeah, some tvag
zone is porous, are they in the metasida? How much
you swish it around and push it around, but you
don't want to make it too strong. If you're making
a cup of tea at night, you let it contiguous sleep.
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I don't actually know. I don't drink here. I think
it's disgusting and it tastes like fresh water. But I
do make it for other people, and specifically one other
person who does their trouble sleeping sometimes and try giving
up tea, but then discovered that she still had trouble
sleeping even when she didn't have to be sometimes. All right,
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we've got a big off topic there. It's a more.
We'll see you back here again tomorrow.
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