September 16, 2024 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Get Used to It/Can We Have SOME Nice-To-Haves?/Phones Are a Problem/Paying for PM's Clothes/Give Strangers a Chance
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean
for Tuesday. First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart,
and we are looking back at Monday. And Andrew Dickens
wants a word about infrastructure priorities and a bit of
smoke screen that seems to be going on around what
gets spent.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
On, what.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Kerrie would like to talk about phones being banned in schools,
whether that has been effective and good. Ryan has been
looking at what the Prime Minister's wearing and he wants
us to pay for it. And then Marcus will talk
to strangers. I think that is his job anyway. But
before any of that, so Trump got shot at again.
(01:05):
This is a disturbing trend.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
He wasn't actually hit. There is no footage, so it
feels a lot less dramatic. Almost for us to be shocked,
I feel like it has to be more dramatic than
the last time. I also think it's because we know
the depths of the loathing for this man that some
people in some groups in the United States have. But
I also think that it's because we're getting a little
used to political violence in the States. I mean, he's
(01:27):
had a previous attempt on his life, there was the
assault on Nancy Pelosi's husband, Capital Riots and so on.
I think it's becoming just ever so slightly normalized. The
first thing I actually did think, instead of shock was
to it was to wonder whether this actually will help
him to get re elected. And after thinking about it
for a few hours, I don't think it will. And
I think it's largely because we're not shocked, right. I
(01:49):
don't think that this is an experience unique to me,
and I think there will not be an outpouring of
sympathy this time like there was last time, no rallying
around the flag effect. Probably the best that Donald Trump
will get from this is just a lot of extra
media coverage. Now that's good for him. That is extremely helpful, right,
because what are we not talking about again? We're not
talking Kamela, are we We're talking about Donald Trump. But
(02:11):
the truth of the matter is Donald Trump can and
does generate this kind of media coverage for himself quite easily.
Doesn't need the help of an assassination attempt.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
To do it so.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Weirdly and like absolutely bizarrely. Rather than this being something
incredible that's just happened, this just feels like another day
in this U selection campaign, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I mean we've said it. I think we've been saying
it since twenty sixteen, haven't we. Nothing is normal anymore,
and that's what is normal.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Yeah, it's pretty weird.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Or weirdness coming out about this latest alleged assassination at
tenth all the time, I'm not even convinced that the
gunshots all came from the guy. Now it sounds like
the Secret Service shot at him when they's all the
(03:06):
barrel of the gun or something like it. As I'm
as it's a fluid situation. As I report, there's even
twenty nearly twenty four hours on or forty four am
New Zealand time twelve forty four pm Eastern in the US.
(03:26):
I don't know why I'm telling you times in a
podcast and literally, you know, by the end of the
spot me recording this podcast and then mixing it down
and then publishing it, it's going to be so much
later it's irrelevant. Oh. I finally there was a way
I could take it back but you know it's live
podcasting for.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
You news talk. Has it been right?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So Beck Yeah, Andrew Diffens wants to word about what
public money gets spent on and how sometimes thinks that
it is being spent on it's used as a bit
of a smoke screen.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I think that what he was on about, it's the
need to have thinking that gave us the floor aed
Harbor Bridge. Someone somehow figured out that eight lanes in
our railway line were a nice to have and not
a need to have for a future growing the city,
so we didn't get them. The Prime Minister claimed that
the Wellington Convention Center was a nice to have and
that we don't have money to fix the burst pipes. Well,
the pipes are broken because they weren't replaced fifty years
(04:27):
ago and there now one hundred years old, and that's
because someone fifty years ago decided that water pipe maintenance
was a nice to have and that someone in the
future can pay for it when it becomes a need
to have. On an overseas trip before the election, the
Prime Minister gave New Zealand business a serve for being
wet and having no mojo. He told businesses that they
(04:47):
were being wet no ambition. They had lost their mojo.
Remember that, I'd ask you to look into the miracris
of Elux and maybe Simmy and Brown and business will
actually look at you in all your false economy and
see a so called CEO who doesn't believe in capex
or investment in plant and machinery. And then we'll look
at other countries and underway, our nice to haves appear
(05:11):
to be their needs to have.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, I kind of get, I kind of get what
Andrew's going for there. I sort of felt the same
way when I heard Simmy and Brown talking about the
transport plan the other day and how they just want
a standard bridge for all roads from now on, none
of these fancy, fancy unique brudges. And I thought, oh,
(05:41):
and I mean Andrew's right about the Haver bridges, and me, yeah,
he's old enough to remember that it was four lanes
when it was first built, and the other four lanes
got clipped on afterwards. And now it's going to take
eight to ten years to paint it.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
How can that possibly be right?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So like if I painted it by myself, I could
do it at least time. I'm not volunteering.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
You talk SIBN.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Meanwhile, and more clickbait news. The cell phone band in schools.
Apparently it's been a while success, and apparently the Teacher's
Union or the which one of the education unions grumblingly
admitted that that might have actually been quite good as well,
even though they are initially against it.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
I don't even think, I mean, everyone talks about having
a few fags behind the bike sheds. I don't think
at Sacred Heart Girls College, Hamilton there were even fags
behind the bike sheds. You just didn't smoke at school.
So how is vaping even a thing at school? I mean,
these days when I'm MCing and you have to go
(06:53):
through the health and safety in the event of a
fire and the YadA YadA ya say the loser out
the door until you're left, and there is no smoking
or vaping on the graved There is no vote, vaping
or smoking anywhere near the venue. The only place you
(07:15):
could probably find the vapor smoke are the Auckland Grammar
Girls toilets, you know, I mean basically that seems to
be about the only place where you'll hear of people
vaping is in the school. Lose, how is that even possible?
How are they not banned? And for people who say
(07:36):
banning doesn't work, well, you'd have to say that the
cell phones, which are ubiquitous, which everyone said would be
incredibly difficult to police, Well, no, not really. I know.
Vapes are smaller. They can be hidden about the person.
But you can see the puff, the magic dragon, clouds
(07:58):
of smoke coming out of the lose. You know what's
going on. So you know, if Vaughn can, quadingly, through
clenched teeth, concede the use, perhaps the ban on cell
phones has been a good thing in schools, then I
can grudgingly agree he's right that banning vapor would also
(08:22):
be a very very good thing to do. Give the
kids some boundaries, give them some rules, and watch them
actually enjoy having those boundaries, having those limits on what
they can and cannot do, and benefiting from them.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Saying it's so easy for us oldies to say stuff
like that, take things off the young ease, but we
don't like things being taken off ourselves, and we get
very upset about that. I don't know what happened to
(09:03):
the schools not have a protocol where they can just
I know, when my kids are at school with their devices.
Could they couldn't go to certain websites and things. But
I guess that's it's if you're on the school WiFi,
isn't it If kids are using their own data, that's
the problem. That's the real problem here is cheap data.
(09:25):
So what they need to do is not if if
you couldn't actually connect to the internet at all, it's
known it's not going to work. No, it maybe carries
right after all. Actually, now that I think of it, right,
who should pay for the Prime minister's clothes? Us or him?
(09:46):
Why is this a thing? Anyway? Ryan thinks it is.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I think we should publicly fund our leader's wardrobes. I'm
just going to put it out there. I think we should.
It's important how we look on the world stage. If
you're going to in the world of geopolitics and diplomacy,
you need to look good. You need to look sharp,
and you need to look smart. You know, we don't
want to be looking like some crack pot banana Republican
(10:09):
a moomoo do we when we go into these events?
I think which should be publicly funded. And the rules
at the moment aren't really clear on whether you are
allowed to use your allowance for clothing or not. This
is the politicians allowances. So I'll tell you what the
rules say in just a couple of minutes. But I think,
just as a they're representing us, we need to look good.
(10:35):
I'm not against publicly funding their.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Wardrobes, but does Ryan think that just because we pay
for it, we get to have a say in what
it actually.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Is that they're wearing.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I mean, like, if my wardrobe was publicly funded, it
would just be a whole lot of sweatshirts and track fans,
and I'd buy them from the half of stories that
are from rebel sport, you know what I mean, from farmers.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
I think that's what we're.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Trying to achieve.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Here is it news talk? Has it been?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Let's finish up here talking to strangers because I don't
know where Marcus gets the stuff from. Every day is
a different International Day of Zubbling, and he seems to
go every day. He seems to know what it is.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
How does he do that?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Must be a producer.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
It is National Sit with a Stranger Day. I worry
about these days International sit with a Stranger. I think
a lot of people don't want strangers sit next to them.
That'd be my take on that be aware of people's
spaces and be a pair of respecting people's personal space.
But I'm kind of interested about that National Sit with
a Stranger day. You got to watch out with some
(11:51):
of these days. This was a day that was invented
to help a company sell bottled water, because all companies
like that are actually looking for some warm vibe to
have adjacent to their business to help them sell their product.
What is the situation? Will you have just randomly met
(12:12):
someone who's become a very good friend.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Well, anybody with a very good friend I thought would
thought would had beat story, wouldn't they. I mean, you
don't know you're very good friend until you meet them randomly.
For you, it's the only way you make very good friends,
isn't it. I don't know. I don't have any friends.
(12:39):
I wouldn't know. Oh you're my friends, of course, but
I haven't met you yet in real life. But thanks
for meeting me here and we can meet back here
again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
See you then Talk Talking sid Bean for more from
News Talk said B. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio,
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said, be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean
for Tuesday. First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart,
and we are looking back at Monday. And Andrew Dickens
wants a word about infrastructure priorities and a bit of
smoke screen that seems to be going on around what
gets spent.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
On, what.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Kerrie would like to talk about phones being banned in schools,
whether that has been effective and good. Ryan has been
looking at what the Prime Minister's wearing and he wants
us to pay for it. And then Marcus will talk
to strangers. I think that is his job anyway. But
before any of that, so Trump got shot at again.
(01:05):
This is a disturbing trend.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
He wasn't actually hit. There is no footage, so it
feels a lot less dramatic. Almost for us to be shocked,
I feel like it has to be more dramatic than
the last time. I also think it's because we know
the depths of the loathing for this man that some
people in some groups in the United States have. But
I also think that it's because we're getting a little
used to political violence in the States. I mean, he's
(01:27):
had a previous attempt on his life, there was the
assault on Nancy Pelosi's husband, Capital Riots and so on.
I think it's becoming just ever so slightly normalized. The
first thing I actually did think, instead of shock was
to it was to wonder whether this actually will help
him to get re elected. And after thinking about it
for a few hours, I don't think it will. And
I think it's largely because we're not shocked, right. I
(01:49):
don't think that this is an experience unique to me,
and I think there will not be an outpouring of
sympathy this time like there was last time, no rallying
around the flag effect. Probably the best that Donald Trump
will get from this is just a lot of extra
media coverage. Now that's good for him. That is extremely helpful, right,
because what are we not talking about again? We're not
talking Kamela, are we We're talking about Donald Trump. But
(02:11):
the truth of the matter is Donald Trump can and
does generate this kind of media coverage for himself quite easily.
Doesn't need the help of an assassination attempt.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
To do it so.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Weirdly and like absolutely bizarrely. Rather than this being something
incredible that's just happened, this just feels like another day
in this U selection campaign, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I mean we've said it. I think we've been saying
it since twenty sixteen, haven't we. Nothing is normal anymore,
and that's what is normal.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Yeah, it's pretty weird.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Or weirdness coming out about this latest alleged assassination at
tenth all the time, I'm not even convinced that the
gunshots all came from the guy. Now it sounds like
the Secret Service shot at him when they's all the
(03:06):
barrel of the gun or something like it. As I'm
as it's a fluid situation. As I report, there's even
twenty nearly twenty four hours on or forty four am
New Zealand time twelve forty four pm Eastern in the US.
(03:26):
I don't know why I'm telling you times in a
podcast and literally, you know, by the end of the
spot me recording this podcast and then mixing it down
and then publishing it, it's going to be so much
later it's irrelevant. Oh. I finally there was a way
I could take it back but you know it's live
podcasting for.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
You news talk. Has it been right?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So Beck Yeah, Andrew Diffens wants to word about what
public money gets spent on and how sometimes thinks that
it is being spent on it's used as a bit
of a smoke screen.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I think that what he was on about, it's the
need to have thinking that gave us the floor aed
Harbor Bridge. Someone somehow figured out that eight lanes in
our railway line were a nice to have and not
a need to have for a future growing the city,
so we didn't get them. The Prime Minister claimed that
the Wellington Convention Center was a nice to have and
that we don't have money to fix the burst pipes. Well,
the pipes are broken because they weren't replaced fifty years
(04:27):
ago and there now one hundred years old, and that's
because someone fifty years ago decided that water pipe maintenance
was a nice to have and that someone in the
future can pay for it when it becomes a need
to have. On an overseas trip before the election, the
Prime Minister gave New Zealand business a serve for being
wet and having no mojo. He told businesses that they
(04:47):
were being wet no ambition. They had lost their mojo.
Remember that, I'd ask you to look into the miracris
of Elux and maybe Simmy and Brown and business will
actually look at you in all your false economy and
see a so called CEO who doesn't believe in capex
or investment in plant and machinery. And then we'll look
at other countries and underway, our nice to haves appear
(05:11):
to be their needs to have.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, I kind of get, I kind of get what
Andrew's going for there. I sort of felt the same
way when I heard Simmy and Brown talking about the
transport plan the other day and how they just want
a standard bridge for all roads from now on, none
of these fancy, fancy unique brudges. And I thought, oh,
(05:41):
and I mean Andrew's right about the Haver bridges, and me, yeah,
he's old enough to remember that it was four lanes
when it was first built, and the other four lanes
got clipped on afterwards. And now it's going to take
eight to ten years to paint it.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
How can that possibly be right?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So like if I painted it by myself, I could
do it at least time. I'm not volunteering.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
You talk SIBN.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Meanwhile, and more clickbait news. The cell phone band in schools.
Apparently it's been a while success, and apparently the Teacher's
Union or the which one of the education unions grumblingly
admitted that that might have actually been quite good as well,
even though they are initially against it.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
I don't even think, I mean, everyone talks about having
a few fags behind the bike sheds. I don't think
at Sacred Heart Girls College, Hamilton there were even fags
behind the bike sheds. You just didn't smoke at school.
So how is vaping even a thing at school? I mean,
these days when I'm MCing and you have to go
(06:53):
through the health and safety in the event of a
fire and the YadA YadA ya say the loser out
the door until you're left, and there is no smoking
or vaping on the graved There is no vote, vaping
or smoking anywhere near the venue. The only place you
(07:15):
could probably find the vapor smoke are the Auckland Grammar
Girls toilets, you know, I mean basically that seems to
be about the only place where you'll hear of people
vaping is in the school. Lose, how is that even possible?
How are they not banned? And for people who say
(07:36):
banning doesn't work, well, you'd have to say that the
cell phones, which are ubiquitous, which everyone said would be
incredibly difficult to police, Well, no, not really. I know.
Vapes are smaller. They can be hidden about the person.
But you can see the puff, the magic dragon, clouds
(07:58):
of smoke coming out of the lose. You know what's
going on. So you know, if Vaughn can, quadingly, through
clenched teeth, concede the use, perhaps the ban on cell
phones has been a good thing in schools, then I
can grudgingly agree he's right that banning vapor would also
(08:22):
be a very very good thing to do. Give the
kids some boundaries, give them some rules, and watch them
actually enjoy having those boundaries, having those limits on what
they can and cannot do, and benefiting from them.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Saying it's so easy for us oldies to say stuff
like that, take things off the young ease, but we
don't like things being taken off ourselves, and we get
very upset about that. I don't know what happened to
(09:03):
the schools not have a protocol where they can just
I know, when my kids are at school with their devices.
Could they couldn't go to certain websites and things. But
I guess that's it's if you're on the school WiFi,
isn't it If kids are using their own data, that's
the problem. That's the real problem here is cheap data.
(09:25):
So what they need to do is not if if
you couldn't actually connect to the internet at all, it's
known it's not going to work. No, it maybe carries
right after all. Actually, now that I think of it, right,
who should pay for the Prime minister's clothes? Us or him?
(09:46):
Why is this a thing? Anyway? Ryan thinks it is.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I think we should publicly fund our leader's wardrobes. I'm
just going to put it out there. I think we should.
It's important how we look on the world stage. If
you're going to in the world of geopolitics and diplomacy,
you need to look good. You need to look sharp,
and you need to look smart. You know, we don't
want to be looking like some crack pot banana Republican
(10:09):
a moomoo do we when we go into these events?
I think which should be publicly funded. And the rules
at the moment aren't really clear on whether you are
allowed to use your allowance for clothing or not. This
is the politicians allowances. So I'll tell you what the
rules say in just a couple of minutes. But I think,
just as a they're representing us, we need to look good.
(10:35):
I'm not against publicly funding their.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Wardrobes, but does Ryan think that just because we pay
for it, we get to have a say in what
it actually.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Is that they're wearing.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I mean, like, if my wardrobe was publicly funded, it
would just be a whole lot of sweatshirts and track fans,
and I'd buy them from the half of stories that
are from rebel sport, you know what I mean, from farmers.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
I think that's what we're.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Trying to achieve.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Here is it news talk? Has it been?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Let's finish up here talking to strangers because I don't
know where Marcus gets the stuff from. Every day is
a different International Day of Zubbling, and he seems to
go every day. He seems to know what it is.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
How does he do that?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Must be a producer.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
It is National Sit with a Stranger Day. I worry
about these days International sit with a Stranger. I think
a lot of people don't want strangers sit next to them.
That'd be my take on that be aware of people's
spaces and be a pair of respecting people's personal space.
But I'm kind of interested about that National Sit with
a Stranger day. You got to watch out with some
(11:51):
of these days. This was a day that was invented
to help a company sell bottled water, because all companies
like that are actually looking for some warm vibe to
have adjacent to their business to help them sell their product.
What is the situation? Will you have just randomly met
(12:12):
someone who's become a very good friend.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Well, anybody with a very good friend I thought would
thought would had beat story, wouldn't they. I mean, you
don't know you're very good friend until you meet them randomly.
For you, it's the only way you make very good friends,
isn't it. I don't know. I don't have any friends.
(12:39):
I wouldn't know. Oh you're my friends, of course, but
I haven't met you yet in real life. But thanks
for meeting me here and we can meet back here
again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
See you then Talk Talking sid Bean for more from
News Talk said B. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio,
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