February 3, 2026 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) Who Needs To Hold Pencils Anyway?/It Started with the Poo Water/Social Media Cynicism/Driving Just Got More Complicated/Time to Become Australian
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Tuesday. There's a lot of people
who want to get into mining this country for all
it's worth. How much is it actually worth might be
a moot point. The head of safety at Meta popped
(00:52):
in for a chat with Mike yesterday. Heather was listening,
which is more than could be said for Matt and Tyler,
who weren't even listening to their own interview with Chris
Bishop on driver licenses. And finally, Marcus thinks that we
should become a spate of Australia. But before any of that,
there are kids tuning up for SCOREL who are not
ready to turn up the school, curious, concerned.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Children are naturally curious. They want to learn. That's why
we're not still primordial slime. We're the natural innate desire
to know. Children also naturally want to be clean. If
they don't want to be an nappy at six, unless
that's what they've had to get used to. It doesn't
(01:33):
have to cost anything to develop a child's natural curiosity.
It's just time spent with them. Every single child psychologist
will tell you that those first one thousand days, it's
not about the flashest pens and pencils and buying them books,
and it's not even it's just having a safe, warm,
(01:54):
dry place, which can be difficult for some, but then
spending time with them. And if you're not confident about
answering questions or reading to them, or you can't be bothered,
taking them to the park and you can send them
to childcare where the well trained educators will do the
hard work for you. There's three hours at childcare centers. Please,
(02:21):
when we're talking about the readiness or not of children
for school, sure talk up early childhood education, ask for
more money, but please do not excorpate parents who know
they can and should be doing better by their children.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So, yeah, it sounds like Carrie's I'm pretty sure that
it's the parent's fault and not preschool in kindergarten's fault
that kids don't know how to wipe their own bums
by the time they get to school. I'm not exercised
about them not being able to hold a pencil thing?
Are they? Does everybody need to grow up to be
(02:59):
a sketch artist. I don't think we really need pencils anymore.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Do we.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
News talk z been right.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So we've got all this cool stuff that we could
be mining and selling to the rest of the world, apparently,
But a bit like, you know, never ever having a
reasonable conversation about nuclear power. We never going to dig
it all up, are we.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
You can't have your cake and eat it too, critical
minerals another example, Why wouldn't we do a deal and
pull it out of the ground. Everyone else is doing it.
By the way, a lot of this stuff goes into
electric cars, into electronic technology like cell phones and computers,
you know the computers the Greens use in Parliament, rather
(03:43):
than into things like SUVs. So what's the problem?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Now?
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Some facts before people get themselves too carried away, Before
you start to imagine giant open cast pits stretching from
coast to coast across the country, blighting the landscape. Current
minds make up four thousand hectares of land in New Zealand.
That is zero point zero one five percent of our
(04:08):
total land mass zero point zero one five and the
conservation estate, well, we mind just zero point five percent
of that half a percent. If we are serious about
creating a wealthy country where society functions, our elderly have
warm homes, and our kids see a future, we need
(04:29):
to start doing something about it, something other than waving
banners and getting poor.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah. So that's a wholehearted, full throwd, dig baby, dig,
drill baby drill from from Ryan there.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I think that the ship sailed on trying to keep
New zealing clean and green, hasn't it. I think we've
it started going downhill with the with the poo rivers
that we couldn't swim in anymore, and we've never really
made it back. So it's totally let that go. Is
that what's what we're saying?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Qu's talk said?
Speaker 6 (05:04):
So?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
The global head of safety for Meta popped in to
see Mike yesterday. Her first name is Antigony. I've never
heard that name before. I don't know why I brought
that up. It's not really relevant. She seemed very likable.
Would you believe that she used to be a middle
(05:25):
school teacher? And of course she has a mother. No,
I don't think either was really buying the act either.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
So what do you do if you're one of the
social media giants facing the real prospect of losing millions
of your best customers around the world because their mums
and dads vote to Bannett. Well what you do is
you ran out old Mate Davis, your head of global safety,
to tell everyone there's nothing to worry about because she's
a mum and she wants a teacher and she cares
about kids. And then you send her to Spain, and
(05:54):
you send it to Ireland, and you send it to Australia,
and you send it to New Zealand to soothe the
worried parents. But I'm not soothed, not at all. I
do not trust the social media giants, just in the
same way I don't trust big Tobacco or Big Farmer,
because their main consideration is profits, not kids' brains. I've
watched them do nothing for years, but all of a
sudden they want old Mate Davis to come and talk
(06:14):
to us. And most importantly, I've used their product and
I understand it is incredibly addictive and for the most
part it's utterly pointless. So banning it for the kids
is not going to do anything bad to their lives.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Now.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
It's not to say that old mate Davis didn't have
some valid points to make, because she did, like the
fact that maybe parental controls over downloading apps is a
good idea. But my primary takeaway from that interview this
morning was that Meta is worried that this idea is
catching on and that, as far as I'm concerned, is
a good thing.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, it is worth going back on the news or
at their website and having a listen to that interview
with that Mike did with Anthony Davis. For no other reason,
just how skillful she was. A bit like how Carrie
(07:01):
before was talking about it's all the parents' fault when
kids don't know what they're doing when they get to school.
Old Antigony from Meta was convinced that it's all the
parents vault in terms of online safety and it's not
really up to there. She didn't say that in quite
so many words, and that was just how clever she was. Now,
(07:24):
Matt and Tyler talking about our graduated driver licensing arrangement
yesterday they talked to Chriss Bishop. He's tidying it up
somehow make it safer. They were paying any attention. At
least they had the begumption to admit it.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
You know what, Tyler, Lucky, we've got listeners that actually
listen to the people were interviewing. Yeah, I'm talking to
Chris Bishop before. You weren't listening. Nope, I wasn't listening.
So we missed an important part we did as this
Texas said, he told you part of the second test
has moved to the first. I didn't hear it.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You didn't hear it.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
We've gone back and we've checked the tapes, and this
is what he said.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
You'll spend longer on your learners learning how to drive,
unless you do approved practical course or you do those
supervised hours, which will be you know, will be monitoring.
And then the second thing is the restricted test. We're
making it include hazard perception as well, so it gets
really technical. But at the moment when you do your
full test, the hazard perception stuff, which is important, is
(08:22):
only done on your full test. It's not done on
your restricted So that will now be part of the
restricted test as well. And so I think you know
the combination of longer on your learners, you know, making
sure that you can't go for your fall if you've
got any d merits, you've got to wait twelve months
of a clean driving record. We're also doing a zero
alcohol limit for everyone on their learners and district game by.
Speaker 8 (08:43):
The way, all right, right, well I need all that yep,
so the go. Yeah, So a bunch of the some
of the key stuff, and the full test will move
to the restricted tests. So the people doing the licensings
can still make their money by just failing more and
more people. See, they'll just fire people. They'll just fail
more people on the restricted and it'll be the same.
Speaker 9 (09:01):
See the hazard the hazard perception test was the thing
that I had a problem with and I just looked
it up. So here's as stupid it is stupid. Here's
one example. You spot some oncoming traffic. You say to
the testing officer oncoming traffic. You explain your response, keep
to the left and keep a safe distanced I mean
that goes without saying that if a car is coming
(09:22):
to you, what you veer into it and cause a crash?
Course you stay on the left.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
It's always that question that comes up, like would you
pass your license if you had decided again? Now, and
those guys don't even know which bits that they need
at which time, so they obviously wouldn't. I wouldn't, especially
if it evolved backing out of a car park. I'd
fail that part. I also seem to I have a
(09:48):
terrible blind spot on large roundabouts, looking out for traffic,
and it's coming from my right on a large roundabout.
I've had a lot of nemess is doing that. I
don't know what is it, Just that I've got a
bit of a stiff stiff neck and can't be bother
turning around all the way. I don't know what's going
on there used talk basically, what's going on there is.
(10:10):
I'm a terrible driver, and I wish that the domestic
manager would always drive. For some reason, I always end
up driving, and then the two of us as a can.
It seems like some old sort of sexist carryover thing.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I just would prefer to be driven everywhere. I hate
driving because I always get into trouble when I do
things wrong, and I think it's quite hard to do
things wrong from the passenger seat. Anyway, we're going to
finish up here with us becoming a state of Australia.
I didn't realize it was on the agenda.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Another catnip for talkback. They have asked politicians if we
should become a seventh state. Well, in fact, I've asked
everyone if we should become a seventh state of Australia,
which we should. No one's in favor of it. No
one says we should ever be part of Australia. But
I wouldn't think it'd be a bad thing at all.
(10:59):
It would all be better off. I think the question
would be would would Australia have us?
Speaker 9 (11:07):
So there we go.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
There's a situation. Then there's been a poll and people
don't want to become part of Australia, something I'm personally
in favor of.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
But Christopher Luxon said that won't be happening. Keep those
texts coming through. But yes, what have we got that
I don't want to be I don't want to show
to be a negative show. But oh my goodness, you've
just maybe want to go back to Australia. I wish
you hadn't done that. We used to be part of
Australia for a long time. Only became a dominion eighteen
sixty chairs, Karen, I agree with your New Zeland becoming
(11:40):
another side of Australia work perfectly. New South Wales used
to rule New Zealand for a sports time. If the
only reason not to do it is sport, I think
it's a good enough reason. We're in the basketball competition,
we're in the football competition, we're in the league competition.
We're loving all of those. It just means we miss
out until all Black tests a year.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I have a problem with it. Yeah, I don't think
that all blacks things should be a consideration. I don't
think we're really in anymore. It's isn't it terrible that
it's so hard to take any communication from anybody called Karen? Seriously,
these days you've got to feel sorry for people who
are called Karen. I don't know what we can do
about that. Do we just let them change their names
(12:23):
for free? I think that's that's that's all we can do.
And then we'll look back and a couple of decades ago,
remember how people were actually used to be called Karen?
A stupid way to win a podcasts. Sorry guys, thanks
for sticking with me all the way through it though,
and I'll be back with more stupid stuff like that tomorrow.
See there used.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Talk talking, said Bean For more from us, Talk said B.
Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Tuesday. There's a lot of people
who want to get into mining this country for all
it's worth. How much is it actually worth might be
a moot point. The head of safety at Meta popped
(00:52):
in for a chat with Mike yesterday. Heather was listening,
which is more than could be said for Matt and Tyler,
who weren't even listening to their own interview with Chris
Bishop on driver licenses. And finally, Marcus thinks that we
should become a spate of Australia. But before any of that,
there are kids tuning up for SCOREL who are not
ready to turn up the school, curious, concerned.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Children are naturally curious. They want to learn. That's why
we're not still primordial slime. We're the natural innate desire
to know. Children also naturally want to be clean. If
they don't want to be an nappy at six, unless
that's what they've had to get used to. It doesn't
(01:33):
have to cost anything to develop a child's natural curiosity.
It's just time spent with them. Every single child psychologist
will tell you that those first one thousand days, it's
not about the flashest pens and pencils and buying them books,
and it's not even it's just having a safe, warm,
(01:54):
dry place, which can be difficult for some, but then
spending time with them. And if you're not confident about
answering questions or reading to them, or you can't be bothered,
taking them to the park and you can send them
to childcare where the well trained educators will do the
hard work for you. There's three hours at childcare centers. Please,
(02:21):
when we're talking about the readiness or not of children
for school, sure talk up early childhood education, ask for
more money, but please do not excorpate parents who know
they can and should be doing better by their children.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So, yeah, it sounds like Carrie's I'm pretty sure that
it's the parent's fault and not preschool in kindergarten's fault
that kids don't know how to wipe their own bums
by the time they get to school. I'm not exercised
about them not being able to hold a pencil thing?
Are they? Does everybody need to grow up to be
(02:59):
a sketch artist. I don't think we really need pencils anymore.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Do we.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
News talk z been right.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So we've got all this cool stuff that we could
be mining and selling to the rest of the world, apparently,
But a bit like, you know, never ever having a
reasonable conversation about nuclear power. We never going to dig
it all up, are we.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
You can't have your cake and eat it too, critical
minerals another example, Why wouldn't we do a deal and
pull it out of the ground. Everyone else is doing it.
By the way, a lot of this stuff goes into
electric cars, into electronic technology like cell phones and computers,
you know the computers the Greens use in Parliament, rather
(03:43):
than into things like SUVs. So what's the problem?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Now?
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Some facts before people get themselves too carried away, Before
you start to imagine giant open cast pits stretching from
coast to coast across the country, blighting the landscape. Current
minds make up four thousand hectares of land in New Zealand.
That is zero point zero one five percent of our
(04:08):
total land mass zero point zero one five and the
conservation estate, well, we mind just zero point five percent
of that half a percent. If we are serious about
creating a wealthy country where society functions, our elderly have
warm homes, and our kids see a future, we need
(04:29):
to start doing something about it, something other than waving
banners and getting poor.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah. So that's a wholehearted, full throwd, dig baby, dig,
drill baby drill from from Ryan there.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I think that the ship sailed on trying to keep
New zealing clean and green, hasn't it. I think we've
it started going downhill with the with the poo rivers
that we couldn't swim in anymore, and we've never really
made it back. So it's totally let that go. Is
that what's what we're saying?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Qu's talk said?
Speaker 6 (05:04):
So?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
The global head of safety for Meta popped in to
see Mike yesterday. Her first name is Antigony. I've never
heard that name before. I don't know why I brought
that up. It's not really relevant. She seemed very likable.
Would you believe that she used to be a middle
(05:25):
school teacher? And of course she has a mother. No,
I don't think either was really buying the act either.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
So what do you do if you're one of the
social media giants facing the real prospect of losing millions
of your best customers around the world because their mums
and dads vote to Bannett. Well what you do is
you ran out old Mate Davis, your head of global safety,
to tell everyone there's nothing to worry about because she's
a mum and she wants a teacher and she cares
about kids. And then you send her to Spain, and
(05:54):
you send it to Ireland, and you send it to Australia,
and you send it to New Zealand to soothe the
worried parents. But I'm not soothed, not at all. I
do not trust the social media giants, just in the
same way I don't trust big Tobacco or Big Farmer,
because their main consideration is profits, not kids' brains. I've
watched them do nothing for years, but all of a
sudden they want old Mate Davis to come and talk
(06:14):
to us. And most importantly, I've used their product and
I understand it is incredibly addictive and for the most
part it's utterly pointless. So banning it for the kids
is not going to do anything bad to their lives.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Now.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
It's not to say that old mate Davis didn't have
some valid points to make, because she did, like the
fact that maybe parental controls over downloading apps is a
good idea. But my primary takeaway from that interview this
morning was that Meta is worried that this idea is
catching on and that, as far as I'm concerned, is
a good thing.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, it is worth going back on the news or
at their website and having a listen to that interview
with that Mike did with Anthony Davis. For no other reason,
just how skillful she was. A bit like how Carrie
(07:01):
before was talking about it's all the parents' fault when
kids don't know what they're doing when they get to school.
Old Antigony from Meta was convinced that it's all the
parents vault in terms of online safety and it's not
really up to there. She didn't say that in quite
so many words, and that was just how clever she was. Now,
(07:24):
Matt and Tyler talking about our graduated driver licensing arrangement
yesterday they talked to Chriss Bishop. He's tidying it up
somehow make it safer. They were paying any attention. At
least they had the begumption to admit it.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
You know what, Tyler, Lucky, we've got listeners that actually
listen to the people were interviewing. Yeah, I'm talking to
Chris Bishop before. You weren't listening. Nope, I wasn't listening.
So we missed an important part we did as this
Texas said, he told you part of the second test
has moved to the first. I didn't hear it.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You didn't hear it.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
We've gone back and we've checked the tapes, and this
is what he said.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
You'll spend longer on your learners learning how to drive,
unless you do approved practical course or you do those
supervised hours, which will be you know, will be monitoring.
And then the second thing is the restricted test. We're
making it include hazard perception as well, so it gets
really technical. But at the moment when you do your
full test, the hazard perception stuff, which is important, is
(08:22):
only done on your full test. It's not done on
your restricted So that will now be part of the
restricted test as well. And so I think you know
the combination of longer on your learners, you know, making
sure that you can't go for your fall if you've
got any d merits, you've got to wait twelve months
of a clean driving record. We're also doing a zero
alcohol limit for everyone on their learners and district game by.
Speaker 8 (08:43):
The way, all right, right, well I need all that yep,
so the go. Yeah, So a bunch of the some
of the key stuff, and the full test will move
to the restricted tests. So the people doing the licensings
can still make their money by just failing more and
more people. See, they'll just fire people. They'll just fail
more people on the restricted and it'll be the same.
Speaker 9 (09:01):
See the hazard the hazard perception test was the thing
that I had a problem with and I just looked
it up. So here's as stupid it is stupid. Here's
one example. You spot some oncoming traffic. You say to
the testing officer oncoming traffic. You explain your response, keep
to the left and keep a safe distanced I mean
that goes without saying that if a car is coming
(09:22):
to you, what you veer into it and cause a crash?
Course you stay on the left.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
It's always that question that comes up, like would you
pass your license if you had decided again? Now, and
those guys don't even know which bits that they need
at which time, so they obviously wouldn't. I wouldn't, especially
if it evolved backing out of a car park. I'd
fail that part. I also seem to I have a
(09:48):
terrible blind spot on large roundabouts, looking out for traffic,
and it's coming from my right on a large roundabout.
I've had a lot of nemess is doing that. I
don't know what is it, Just that I've got a
bit of a stiff stiff neck and can't be bother
turning around all the way. I don't know what's going
on there used talk basically, what's going on there is.
(10:10):
I'm a terrible driver, and I wish that the domestic
manager would always drive. For some reason, I always end
up driving, and then the two of us as a can.
It seems like some old sort of sexist carryover thing.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I just would prefer to be driven everywhere. I hate
driving because I always get into trouble when I do
things wrong, and I think it's quite hard to do
things wrong from the passenger seat. Anyway, we're going to
finish up here with us becoming a state of Australia.
I didn't realize it was on the agenda.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Another catnip for talkback. They have asked politicians if we
should become a seventh state. Well, in fact, I've asked
everyone if we should become a seventh state of Australia,
which we should. No one's in favor of it. No
one says we should ever be part of Australia. But
I wouldn't think it'd be a bad thing at all.
(10:59):
It would all be better off. I think the question
would be would would Australia have us?
Speaker 9 (11:07):
So there we go.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
There's a situation. Then there's been a poll and people
don't want to become part of Australia, something I'm personally
in favor of.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
But Christopher Luxon said that won't be happening. Keep those
texts coming through. But yes, what have we got that
I don't want to be I don't want to show
to be a negative show. But oh my goodness, you've
just maybe want to go back to Australia. I wish
you hadn't done that. We used to be part of
Australia for a long time. Only became a dominion eighteen
sixty chairs, Karen, I agree with your New Zeland becoming
(11:40):
another side of Australia work perfectly. New South Wales used
to rule New Zealand for a sports time. If the
only reason not to do it is sport, I think
it's a good enough reason. We're in the basketball competition,
we're in the football competition, we're in the league competition.
We're loving all of those. It just means we miss
out until all Black tests a year.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I have a problem with it. Yeah, I don't think
that all blacks things should be a consideration. I don't
think we're really in anymore. It's isn't it terrible that
it's so hard to take any communication from anybody called Karen? Seriously,
these days you've got to feel sorry for people who
are called Karen. I don't know what we can do
about that. Do we just let them change their names
(12:23):
for free? I think that's that's that's all we can do.
And then we'll look back and a couple of decades ago,
remember how people were actually used to be called Karen?
A stupid way to win a podcasts. Sorry guys, thanks
for sticking with me all the way through it though,
and I'll be back with more stupid stuff like that tomorrow.
See there used.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Talk talking, said Bean For more from us, Talk said B.
Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iart
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