January 18, 2026 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) That About Wraps it Up for Rugby/Get Idris Onto It/What to Eat at the Sail GP
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome back to me and
welcome to the bean. The weekend edition, first of yesterday's News.
I am Glen Hart. Haven't actually been away that long.
You might still be away and have downloaded this and
you're listening to it while still being on holiday. That's
nice to be you. Anyway, we are first of yesterday's news,
(00:44):
and because it's a weekend edition, you'll get Saturday as well.
So what have we got? Well, are we going to
have some bus cops or train cops? All book from
Mark Mitchell about that? Shortly we will also discuss sale GP,
or rather the food that's being served at Sale GP.
Good to see it, Josh Emmett. Before any of that,
(01:06):
the all Black coach on Berger writing was on the wall,
wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
How has the news of Scott Robertson's departure been greeted
in Irish rugby circles.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
I think it's been greed greeted with a bit of
shock across the world, hasn't it. It's it's so unusual
for a you know, a team like you know, there
is no team like the All Blacks. The All Blacks
are the All Blacks, and they're always held up as
being the team that does things do things differently. You
know that the best in class in so many different areas.
(01:41):
I know we've seen probably some rugby performances across the year,
particularly that game against these against South Africa. But at
the same time, you know, given Scott Robertson's winning record
with the Crusaders and the bits and pieces that we
know about it having come across from one of the
twenty seventeen lines, for myself, you kind of just presume
(02:03):
that it was going to be, you know, when you're
not paying attention to the way that New Zealand's are
kind of, you know, day to day in that kind
of I guess the goldfish bowl that you guys are in.
You kind of just went away from last season thinking
that things would turn around, but obviously there was far
deeper issues within the setup, within the system and those
who come to the fore and in recent days when
(02:23):
they make your story in the New Zealand Herald, and
then obviously you know, even reading that you kind of
knew the writing was on the wall, but no one
i think outside of New Zealand would have expected them
to move so fast.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, so that like broke the story. Actually I'm not
down some time. The guy who was talking to.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
News talk.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So yeah, it's it's it's seen a shock wave across
the country a way that's made it. It's all the
way to get time. So yeah, he coming to talk
about it, didn't they?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And the frustrating thing is we can all see it.
You can see it in the hacker or when he's
charging with those high knees or winning a turnover. You
can see it in the way that opposition players like
Sea Kalisi embrace him. You can see it when aside
like Moana Pacifica goes from averaging twelfth place in Super
Rugby in its first three seasons to finishing seventh under
his leadership, with more points than the previous two seasons combined.
(03:27):
I think if we were to go back ten or
even fifteen years to the White Lock McCaw Smith, Smith
Carter era, you could argue that our talent was so
much better than in most other rugby playing nations that
perhaps the captaincy didn't matter. Quite as much. But now
that the world has caught up, it beggars belief that
(03:49):
Razer didn't make Ardie Savier captain, that he didn't see
the leadership and a steam that was honestly jumping out
of the television. That was the crazy thing to me.
We can all see it. If I can see it,
the rest of the players can see it. And what
did making a different decision? What did that say to
(04:11):
the team? Look, I don't know what happened, but maybe
Scott Robertson's mistake was that he thought by emulating his
Crusaders set up as much as possible, he would replicate
that success. But I think he needed to go further.
He needed to take greater risks and forge new relationships.
(04:31):
And over the last few days, as I've reflected on it,
I've come back to this single point. I think that
one decision had a huge, outsized impact on Razor's fortunes.
And now, having worked for so many years to win
the job, just like that, Scott Robertson's opportunity is gone.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
So that's Jacks there. Anyway, it was all about Adie Tavier. Basically,
something's gone on there, hasn't it. Personally, I just think
he should have. It was because he didn't do any breakdowns.
I mean, that's what people loved him for and he
(05:11):
just didn't do it. And if he just does some
more breakdancing would have been some more results.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Use talk seven.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Keen to hear what Francesca's theory on this is. I
think most people wait around to hear what franchist has
to say about the All Blacks coaching situation, don't they.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Regardless of whether Scott Robertson should or shouldn't have been fired,
his success rate, the role of the players in the demise,
the relatively simple observation is that as a whole things
went working and Raiser and his team were struggling to
fix it. After the dragged out Foster Robertson kerfuffle a
few years ago, which ultimately saw Robertson get the job,
It's reassuring to see some decisive and strong leadership from
(05:52):
New Zealand Rugby chair David Kirk this time around. There's
a lot to sort out in New Zealand Rugby. The
organization is currently sure to CEO, CFO COO and a
high performance manager is also leaving the All Blacks is
where New Zealand rugby makes its money, so if you're
going to make changes, this is probably probably the most
important place to start. But I expect that once the
coaching staff has been sorted, Kirk will work his way
(06:14):
through the rest of the organization. So while the rest
of the world saw this unprecedented move as another slip
from the summit or a superpower in decline, I suggest
we all take a beat, wish the outgoing coach all
the best, and have confidence in what appears to be
some solid leadership that isn't afraid to make hard calls.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, I think, deep down, I think we all had
a feeling last year that that wrapped it up for rugby,
couldn't we We're about ready to move on from rugby.
Maybe you really get into arts and culture. Perhaps I
(06:54):
don't see if he shows maybe right. It is that
title of year where you try and you have to
try and to generate a better news. I don't mean
make it up, but just sort of we've done this,
(07:15):
we've done that, we've done this. Nothing news really happening.
Let's go back to last year when people were getting
beaten up on trains and buses.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Do we need a dedicated sort of unit focusing specifically
on public transporters, or you know, is that sort of
overplaying it.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
No, I've got a very open mind in terms of
what we need to do to make sure that we
en sure that our public transport is safe. Autan Transport
have got a really good program. They've got safety officers
in place. Like I said to you, the police are
working really closely with them. N Egta, I am open
to any suggestions or any thoughts that have forward. He
continues to protect and enhance the security for people accessing
(07:55):
our public transport.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
I was just thinking the reason I was focusing on
this in particular, I've seen a little bit more publicity
bubbling away around the opening of the city rail link,
and are you worried about you know, this is going
to be a badge of honor for Auckland once it
gets opened. Are you concerned about the crime aspect really
undermining what should be a huge plus for Auckland.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
I'm not concerned that I'm vigilant and focused on making
sure that that our city is one of the safest
cities in the world. We are tracking in the right direction.
That has been That is the hard work of a
lot of people, whether it be our business association, hard
of the city, whether it be residents and rate bars associations,
social service providers, government agencies, Police Housing New Zealand cpn
(08:46):
Z our Mary Wardens, so that this is a combined
group effort in terms of making sure that we are
the safest city in the world. We've made some great
progress with all of those all of those groups coming
together and working together. We know again we've got We've
still got further to go, We've got more to do,
but we're definitely tracking in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I am.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I don't know you. Have you watched Kaijack on fle
TV Edres Albert the first season. Yeah, he was on
a plane on the wrong plane at the wrong time
and had to negotiate with the hijackers. I watched the
(09:26):
first episode of the second Basically, what I'm saying is,
I think we need Edris Albert just randomly out there
on buses and trains, and I think.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
They're pretty much Albert news talk ze.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Been all right, back to sport or food. I'm not
sure what josh Emma is serving up for goodies at
the forthcoming sale.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
GP and Auckland tell us what a culinary collaborator for
sale GP actually does well.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I'm overseeing the Adrenaline Lounge, which is the lounge for
I Guess Corporates VIPs under the big stand.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I wouldn't expect you to be anywhere else but with
the vopiece.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
No, it'll be you know, it's Russell Coots's thing. And
there's a stand above with about ten thousand people in it.
It is smack bang in front of the you know,
the sailing. Yeah, it is so much fun. I've got
a ringside seat pretty much there. So I'm cooking a
few dishes, some amazing food. I work with a great
(10:27):
catering company who I've worked with on many other projects
like this, and we're just going to deliver some excellence.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Oh how good. It's a bit of an opportunity to
celebrate New Zealand Day, Like everything about the event is
an opportunity to celebrate New Zealand. So what kind of
dishes are you looking at?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Well, I've got I actually, I've got a tomato dish
up my sleeve because I love the tomatoes a spectacular
at this time of year, with a Gaspaccio style sauce,
bit of seaweed through the tomato dish as well. Actually,
people seaweed, which is really lovely and pungent. I'm thinking
of bringing back Crayfisher clears. That was where my mind
went because people just go crazy for them. But I'm
(11:06):
still scheming. I'm in the scheming phase.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah right.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Ah adds a little bit of spice to whatever dish
you're making, isn't it if you've schemed it. I'm not
sure about the sale GP. It seems like from one
week to the next, you never really know who's going
to win, like like who's it's hard to tell who's
good at it and who isn't. I mean, we banged
into the Swiss or something the other day in Perth,
(11:32):
and what's that about? Mind you? I got to say,
as I was driving over the Harbridge the other day
and you look at the grand stand that they've set
up there to watch it, right on the water's edge,
it does look quite full. I am Glen Hart. That
was the first News Talks they'd been for twenty twenty six.
(11:53):
Don't worry. I'm sure they'll get better as I warm up.
Find out tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I'll see you. Then used Talks doorsid Bean.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
For more from News talk said B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome back to me and
welcome to the bean. The weekend edition, first of yesterday's News.
I am Glen Hart. Haven't actually been away that long.
You might still be away and have downloaded this and
you're listening to it while still being on holiday. That's
nice to be you. Anyway, we are first of yesterday's news,
(00:44):
and because it's a weekend edition, you'll get Saturday as well.
So what have we got? Well, are we going to
have some bus cops or train cops? All book from
Mark Mitchell about that? Shortly we will also discuss sale GP,
or rather the food that's being served at Sale GP.
Good to see it, Josh Emmett. Before any of that,
(01:06):
the all Black coach on Berger writing was on the wall,
wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
How has the news of Scott Robertson's departure been greeted
in Irish rugby circles.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
I think it's been greed greeted with a bit of
shock across the world, hasn't it. It's it's so unusual
for a you know, a team like you know, there
is no team like the All Blacks. The All Blacks
are the All Blacks, and they're always held up as
being the team that does things do things differently. You
know that the best in class in so many different areas.
(01:41):
I know we've seen probably some rugby performances across the year,
particularly that game against these against South Africa. But at
the same time, you know, given Scott Robertson's winning record
with the Crusaders and the bits and pieces that we
know about it having come across from one of the
twenty seventeen lines, for myself, you kind of just presume
(02:03):
that it was going to be, you know, when you're
not paying attention to the way that New Zealand's are
kind of, you know, day to day in that kind
of I guess the goldfish bowl that you guys are in.
You kind of just went away from last season thinking
that things would turn around, but obviously there was far
deeper issues within the setup, within the system and those
who come to the fore and in recent days when
(02:23):
they make your story in the New Zealand Herald, and
then obviously you know, even reading that you kind of
knew the writing was on the wall, but no one
i think outside of New Zealand would have expected them
to move so fast.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, so that like broke the story. Actually I'm not
down some time. The guy who was talking to.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
News talk.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So yeah, it's it's it's seen a shock wave across
the country a way that's made it. It's all the
way to get time. So yeah, he coming to talk
about it, didn't they?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And the frustrating thing is we can all see it.
You can see it in the hacker or when he's
charging with those high knees or winning a turnover. You
can see it in the way that opposition players like
Sea Kalisi embrace him. You can see it when aside
like Moana Pacifica goes from averaging twelfth place in Super
Rugby in its first three seasons to finishing seventh under
his leadership, with more points than the previous two seasons combined.
(03:27):
I think if we were to go back ten or
even fifteen years to the White Lock McCaw Smith, Smith
Carter era, you could argue that our talent was so
much better than in most other rugby playing nations that
perhaps the captaincy didn't matter. Quite as much. But now
that the world has caught up, it beggars belief that
(03:49):
Razer didn't make Ardie Savier captain, that he didn't see
the leadership and a steam that was honestly jumping out
of the television. That was the crazy thing to me.
We can all see it. If I can see it,
the rest of the players can see it. And what
did making a different decision? What did that say to
(04:11):
the team? Look, I don't know what happened, but maybe
Scott Robertson's mistake was that he thought by emulating his
Crusaders set up as much as possible, he would replicate
that success. But I think he needed to go further.
He needed to take greater risks and forge new relationships.
(04:31):
And over the last few days, as I've reflected on it,
I've come back to this single point. I think that
one decision had a huge, outsized impact on Razor's fortunes.
And now, having worked for so many years to win
the job, just like that, Scott Robertson's opportunity is gone.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
So that's Jacks there. Anyway, it was all about Adie Tavier. Basically,
something's gone on there, hasn't it. Personally, I just think
he should have. It was because he didn't do any breakdowns.
I mean, that's what people loved him for and he
(05:11):
just didn't do it. And if he just does some
more breakdancing would have been some more results.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Use talk seven.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Keen to hear what Francesca's theory on this is. I
think most people wait around to hear what franchist has
to say about the All Blacks coaching situation, don't they.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Regardless of whether Scott Robertson should or shouldn't have been fired,
his success rate, the role of the players in the demise,
the relatively simple observation is that as a whole things
went working and Raiser and his team were struggling to
fix it. After the dragged out Foster Robertson kerfuffle a
few years ago, which ultimately saw Robertson get the job,
It's reassuring to see some decisive and strong leadership from
(05:52):
New Zealand Rugby chair David Kirk this time around. There's
a lot to sort out in New Zealand Rugby. The
organization is currently sure to CEO, CFO COO and a
high performance manager is also leaving the All Blacks is
where New Zealand rugby makes its money, so if you're
going to make changes, this is probably probably the most
important place to start. But I expect that once the
coaching staff has been sorted, Kirk will work his way
(06:14):
through the rest of the organization. So while the rest
of the world saw this unprecedented move as another slip
from the summit or a superpower in decline, I suggest
we all take a beat, wish the outgoing coach all
the best, and have confidence in what appears to be
some solid leadership that isn't afraid to make hard calls.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, I think, deep down, I think we all had
a feeling last year that that wrapped it up for rugby,
couldn't we We're about ready to move on from rugby.
Maybe you really get into arts and culture. Perhaps I
(06:54):
don't see if he shows maybe right. It is that
title of year where you try and you have to
try and to generate a better news. I don't mean
make it up, but just sort of we've done this,
(07:15):
we've done that, we've done this. Nothing news really happening.
Let's go back to last year when people were getting
beaten up on trains and buses.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Do we need a dedicated sort of unit focusing specifically
on public transporters, or you know, is that sort of
overplaying it.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
No, I've got a very open mind in terms of
what we need to do to make sure that we
en sure that our public transport is safe. Autan Transport
have got a really good program. They've got safety officers
in place. Like I said to you, the police are
working really closely with them. N Egta, I am open
to any suggestions or any thoughts that have forward. He
continues to protect and enhance the security for people accessing
(07:55):
our public transport.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
I was just thinking the reason I was focusing on
this in particular, I've seen a little bit more publicity
bubbling away around the opening of the city rail link,
and are you worried about you know, this is going
to be a badge of honor for Auckland once it
gets opened. Are you concerned about the crime aspect really
undermining what should be a huge plus for Auckland.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
I'm not concerned that I'm vigilant and focused on making
sure that that our city is one of the safest
cities in the world. We are tracking in the right direction.
That has been That is the hard work of a
lot of people, whether it be our business association, hard
of the city, whether it be residents and rate bars associations,
social service providers, government agencies, Police Housing New Zealand cpn
(08:46):
Z our Mary Wardens, so that this is a combined
group effort in terms of making sure that we are
the safest city in the world. We've made some great
progress with all of those all of those groups coming
together and working together. We know again we've got We've
still got further to go, We've got more to do,
but we're definitely tracking in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I am.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I don't know you. Have you watched Kaijack on fle
TV Edres Albert the first season. Yeah, he was on
a plane on the wrong plane at the wrong time
and had to negotiate with the hijackers. I watched the
(09:26):
first episode of the second Basically, what I'm saying is,
I think we need Edris Albert just randomly out there
on buses and trains, and I think.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
They're pretty much Albert news talk ze.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Been all right, back to sport or food. I'm not
sure what josh Emma is serving up for goodies at
the forthcoming sale.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
GP and Auckland tell us what a culinary collaborator for
sale GP actually does well.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I'm overseeing the Adrenaline Lounge, which is the lounge for
I Guess Corporates VIPs under the big stand.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I wouldn't expect you to be anywhere else but with
the vopiece.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
No, it'll be you know, it's Russell Coots's thing. And
there's a stand above with about ten thousand people in it.
It is smack bang in front of the you know,
the sailing. Yeah, it is so much fun. I've got
a ringside seat pretty much there. So I'm cooking a
few dishes, some amazing food. I work with a great
(10:27):
catering company who I've worked with on many other projects
like this, and we're just going to deliver some excellence.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Oh how good. It's a bit of an opportunity to
celebrate New Zealand Day, Like everything about the event is
an opportunity to celebrate New Zealand. So what kind of
dishes are you looking at?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Well, I've got I actually, I've got a tomato dish
up my sleeve because I love the tomatoes a spectacular
at this time of year, with a Gaspaccio style sauce,
bit of seaweed through the tomato dish as well. Actually,
people seaweed, which is really lovely and pungent. I'm thinking
of bringing back Crayfisher clears. That was where my mind
went because people just go crazy for them. But I'm
(11:06):
still scheming. I'm in the scheming phase.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah right.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Ah adds a little bit of spice to whatever dish
you're making, isn't it if you've schemed it. I'm not
sure about the sale GP. It seems like from one
week to the next, you never really know who's going
to win, like like who's it's hard to tell who's
good at it and who isn't. I mean, we banged
into the Swiss or something the other day in Perth,
(11:32):
and what's that about? Mind you? I got to say,
as I was driving over the Harbridge the other day
and you look at the grand stand that they've set
up there to watch it, right on the water's edge,
it does look quite full. I am Glen Hart. That
was the first News Talks they'd been for twenty twenty six.
(11:53):
Don't worry. I'm sure they'll get better as I warm up.
Find out tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I'll see you. Then used Talks doorsid Bean.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
For more from News talk said B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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