July 5, 2026 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) When's It Coming Again?/About What You'd Expect/When You Don't Have Anything Else to Talk About/I Couldn't Care Less/Reluctant Movie Maker
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello Magelu for Beanies, and welcome to the being the
week in edition persus yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart.
We're looking back at Sunday and Saturday. In my experience,
that's when weekends usually happen. All Blacks versus France versus
All Blacks games. That's it's about. What usually happens is
everybody thinks that they're going to win easily, and they
look a bit rusty, something to do with only being
(00:46):
together for a week or so. I suppose Jack has
a really interesting topic that he's kicked off his show
with on Saturday morning, so you want to hang around
for that. Taylor Swift married Travis Kelsey. Yep, that happened,
and John Earle sort of accidentally made a movie. But
(01:07):
before any of that, this Indian FTA. I thought this
was science sealed and delivered. Maybe the delivery hasn't quite
happened yet.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
How big a deal is this visit? Oh, this is
a huge deal. This is the once in a generation
economic opportunity. I mean there's a deal that will last
for the next two decades at least. And yeah, this
is a starting line. I mean, if I have to
give you a detailed response. Firstly, it builds confidence across
(01:40):
business communities across both the countries. Right, so the garments
are backing up, putting together a well negotiated agreement and
signed it, and that builds confidence for the big boys
to come in and play and make the investments. Secondly,
it actually removes unfair competitiveness that Australia had because of
their FTA. To give you an example, sheep meat which
(02:05):
from here, which is very well enjoyed in India, Australia
and New Zealand used to be about the same. But
then since when Australia got their FTA done in twenty
twenty two, they got a thirty three percent reduction, so
which means what was one hundred dollars product Kivi Shei
farmers had to I mean we're valued a one hundred
(02:25):
and thirty three that was the cost all right. So
now with an FTA like this, this roomors barriers and
from the moment it becomes effective, it becomes a neat
level playing ground.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
It sounds quite good. It makes you wonder why when
Sir Peters is being such a I was going to
call him a naughty word beer, why was Peter's is
doing what he's doing, saying what he's saying, and just
there is a time for Wes Peters to pipe down
and shuffle off so we can get on with stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
News talk z been right.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
So the first All Blacks match of the season we won.
Apparently we didn't kick too much, so that's a winding
and went. As far as I'm concerned, I didn't really
see that much of the game, but I'm sure it
was great.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
First test of the Dave Renny era. What was your
overall assessment of what you saw last night?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Yeah, Look, I think the thing we need to start
with is being realistic about the situation. You know, new
coaching groups come and first test, it's tough. These players
come straight out of Super rugby, the coaching group had
very little time with them, and you've got some changes,
some new faces and new combinations in there as well.
So I think you're just going to be realistic about
(03:45):
what's achievable and these circumstances. So it was never going
to be the perfect thing, and it certainly wasn't. They
achieved ultimately what.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
They needed to, which was a first up one and
against You know, I know the Friends had a number
of the top line players missing, but they're still got
a massive depth and highly talented bunch of players that
got to choose from, so I think they'll be pleased
that they ended up on the right side of the leaguer.
There's always plenty of things to work on. In general,
the attacking side of the play was good, albeit some
(04:17):
eras and little missed opportunities.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
There's probably on the defense where they'll be looking a
little more closely. I would to call I.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Want to get to defense in a minute, But just
on attack, did you notice anything different about the way
the All Blacks were trying to attack compared to in
previous seasons.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
No, I didn't greatly myself. You know, there's a limit
of what you can try and put together. I think
from CPS you've got no time, so they keep that
as simple as possible.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, I know you were, you're thinking, thinking, Glenn, how
come you didn't watch the game? And it's that fine
balancing act where domestic managers, is there some kind of
significant rugby game on tonight is there, and then you've
got to read between the lines with that comment, the
(05:02):
tone in which it was delivered, and think to yourself,
I think we've probably just just watching Netflix or a
movie or something, aren't we Probably the rugby's not as
significant as some people are making it out to be.
That's where That's how I went in. That's the direction
I went in any way you talk said, right, so
(05:23):
a little, just a little behind the curtains peak at
my domestic life more or less exciting than Jack's. I reckon.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
It's not a fast process, but my god, it's effective.
Half an hour with the fabric shaver and my favorite
blue jersey was totally rejuvenated a million bucks. And it's funny.
I mean, in a throwaway world, there is still something
so satisfying about taking the time and effort to preserve quality.
(05:55):
It starts at the top. The king does it, getting
his cobbler to sew little leather patches onto his old
John Lob shoes. I've got a canvas backpack that I
have used every day for twelve years. It's been around
the world multiple times with me. It's been everywhere, beaten
up during the day, but always nursed back to health
(06:16):
at night, and now we have an even easier way
to keep our wool looking sharp. AI or quantum computing
might be the technology for the coming century, But if
you spot me walking about in my blue jersey this winter,
take my word. Something altogether more humble is my pick
(06:40):
for the technology of the season.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Imagine being a fly on the wall in that pre
show production meeting. I mean, I'm not sure who suggested
doing an opening editorial on Jack's favorite shaver. I mean,
you would like to think that it was probably Jack
himself and that there was nobody else who was interested
(07:02):
enough to suggest it. But obviously everybody agreed that that
was the thing to do. Pretty amazing, amazing stuff. How
radio shows get made, isn't it Musical City?
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Actually, this for whole podcast is turning into a sort
of a list of things that I've got no interest
in whatsoever. Really, I couldn't be less interested in Taylor
Swift or Travis Kelsey or people who think that it's
fun to go to shut down half of New York
to go to their wedding.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
America at two hundred and fifty asks citizens to reflect
on who they are and where they've come from and
where they're heading. The Taylor and Travis wedding just ask
them to celebrate happiness. The next two hundred and fifty
years obviously won't be defined by wedding or the anniversary
celebrations this weekend. That will depend the choices America makes
after the fireworks have faded. In two and a half centuries,
(07:56):
the United States has grown from a fragile democratic experiment
into the world's largest economy and military superpower and a
cultural force. The next chapter goes as well as well
the next chapter goes as well? Is how the next
chapter goes is far from guaranteed. In the short term,
America faces familiar challenges political division, rising debt, economic ascertainty,
(08:21):
social inequity, and increasingly volatile world. Longer term, the stakes
are even higher. Can America remain a global leader in energy,
in tech and AI, political influence and military power? Can
it rebuild trust in its democratic institutions? Can it balance
competition with China and avoid further conflicts which could define
this century? There's a big, scary, uncerted, contested questions and
(08:45):
matter a whole lot more than the one to which
Travis and Taylor will respond, I do. But in an
age where attention is the world's most valuable currency, it
is not surprising it is the love story that's captured
more hearts and headlines than one of the most significant
anniversaries in American history. Sometimes it just feels right to
take a moment and let yourself be happy.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
You see any love or romance or anything in that
story at all? Or is it just hype and clicks
and popularity. And I mean, she's right. I think Prentiss
right there. I think it does sum up everything about America,
but it's everything that's wrong with it in my view.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Anyway, I guess I'm just.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Not a romantic news talk been right. So John Earl
basically filmed his trials and tribulations raising his daughter with
special needs, and it's become a movie. I don't think
he quite knows how that happened, but anyway, I think
he tried to explain it with Jack on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
For anyone who hasn't seen Feather Strength yet, just give
us the kind of back of the envelope explanation. What
is the story?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
The story is.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
A free spirited guy that married another free spirited woman
and they had many adventures around the world kind of big,
big vision and living on a wide scale, and then
(10:23):
the unexpected situation where you have something come across your
path which is changes you will completely turns it upside down.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah, it's a it's a story of your family life,
and it's a story about relationships. But really it's a
kind of it's a meditation a on on the experience
of having life take a dramatic turn in a way
(10:56):
that you weren't possibly expecting, and the incredible challenges that
come with that, but also the kind of unexpected delights
and joys that come with that. Is that fair?
Speaker 8 (11:05):
Absolutely? Absolutely? So it's it's a balance to not to
not put too much hardship in and lots of the
just the real stuff that sustains us as parents as
well as now that it's heading out into the world viewers.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, So tell us a little bit more about your
your family. So you because you live in you live
in Europe. But so you and your wife have two daughters, right, right, Yeah,
and and your second daughter, so she was born with
really significant disabilities, right, requiring twenty four seven care, that's.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Right, And so.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
How did you digest that at first?
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Was that.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
It's it's a process. And I was just talking with
Karen about this before, and it's a process that it
doesn't stop. You know, you'll enter a new phase of
your life and you it comes back because you look
at people around you that are experiencing things that are normal,
and you don't have that same normal stuff going on.
(12:15):
So it's a it's a process that has taken is
taking time, and I just need to know we're still
deeply in this. It's not like this is a story
that's past. We're in it and you will be for life, right,
will be for life?
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (12:33):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yeah, So how are your daughters now?
Speaker 8 (12:38):
The children in the film are that there are two
and a half years apart, and the story in the
film finishes when when our eldest is around six or seven.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah right, yeah, okay, all right, Jack saved it at
the end. There, I'm back in. At least we finished
with something that I had some interest in. It's all
about me. This is my podcast. I wanted to be
quite clear. It's nothing to do with the the various
different newsborks, the'd be hosts that I featured are out
the podcast. This is about me. Don't forget it. I'll
(13:14):
see you back here again with another podcast about me. Shortly,
it's the one like this, but it's about my hosting stuff.
It's called the Rewrap. Otherwise, if you want more like this,
exactly like this, I'll see you back here again tomorrow.
It won't be exactly like this because it's a different day,
different subjects, slightly different hosts, but kind of like this,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
See you then used Talking Talking Zaid Beam for more
from News Talk said B. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said, be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello Magelu for Beanies, and welcome to the being the
week in edition persus yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart.
We're looking back at Sunday and Saturday. In my experience,
that's when weekends usually happen. All Blacks versus France versus
All Blacks games. That's it's about. What usually happens is
everybody thinks that they're going to win easily, and they
look a bit rusty, something to do with only being
(00:46):
together for a week or so. I suppose Jack has
a really interesting topic that he's kicked off his show
with on Saturday morning, so you want to hang around
for that. Taylor Swift married Travis Kelsey. Yep, that happened,
and John Earle sort of accidentally made a movie. But
(01:07):
before any of that, this Indian FTA. I thought this
was science sealed and delivered. Maybe the delivery hasn't quite
happened yet.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
How big a deal is this visit? Oh, this is
a huge deal. This is the once in a generation
economic opportunity. I mean there's a deal that will last
for the next two decades at least. And yeah, this
is a starting line. I mean, if I have to
give you a detailed response. Firstly, it builds confidence across
(01:40):
business communities across both the countries. Right, so the garments
are backing up, putting together a well negotiated agreement and
signed it, and that builds confidence for the big boys
to come in and play and make the investments. Secondly,
it actually removes unfair competitiveness that Australia had because of
their FTA. To give you an example, sheep meat which
(02:05):
from here, which is very well enjoyed in India, Australia
and New Zealand used to be about the same. But
then since when Australia got their FTA done in twenty
twenty two, they got a thirty three percent reduction, so
which means what was one hundred dollars product Kivi Shei
farmers had to I mean we're valued a one hundred
(02:25):
and thirty three that was the cost all right. So
now with an FTA like this, this roomors barriers and
from the moment it becomes effective, it becomes a neat
level playing ground.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
It sounds quite good. It makes you wonder why when
Sir Peters is being such a I was going to
call him a naughty word beer, why was Peter's is
doing what he's doing, saying what he's saying, and just
there is a time for Wes Peters to pipe down
and shuffle off so we can get on with stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
News talk z been right.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
So the first All Blacks match of the season we won.
Apparently we didn't kick too much, so that's a winding
and went. As far as I'm concerned, I didn't really
see that much of the game, but I'm sure it
was great.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
First test of the Dave Renny era. What was your
overall assessment of what you saw last night?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Yeah, Look, I think the thing we need to start
with is being realistic about the situation. You know, new
coaching groups come and first test, it's tough. These players
come straight out of Super rugby, the coaching group had
very little time with them, and you've got some changes,
some new faces and new combinations in there as well.
So I think you're just going to be realistic about
(03:45):
what's achievable and these circumstances. So it was never going
to be the perfect thing, and it certainly wasn't. They
achieved ultimately what.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
They needed to, which was a first up one and
against You know, I know the Friends had a number
of the top line players missing, but they're still got
a massive depth and highly talented bunch of players that
got to choose from, so I think they'll be pleased
that they ended up on the right side of the leaguer.
There's always plenty of things to work on. In general,
the attacking side of the play was good, albeit some
(04:17):
eras and little missed opportunities.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
There's probably on the defense where they'll be looking a
little more closely. I would to call I.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Want to get to defense in a minute, But just
on attack, did you notice anything different about the way
the All Blacks were trying to attack compared to in
previous seasons.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
No, I didn't greatly myself. You know, there's a limit
of what you can try and put together. I think
from CPS you've got no time, so they keep that
as simple as possible.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, I know you were, you're thinking, thinking, Glenn, how
come you didn't watch the game? And it's that fine
balancing act where domestic managers, is there some kind of
significant rugby game on tonight is there, and then you've
got to read between the lines with that comment, the
(05:02):
tone in which it was delivered, and think to yourself,
I think we've probably just just watching Netflix or a
movie or something, aren't we Probably the rugby's not as
significant as some people are making it out to be.
That's where That's how I went in. That's the direction
I went in any way you talk said, right, so
(05:23):
a little, just a little behind the curtains peak at
my domestic life more or less exciting than Jack's. I reckon.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
It's not a fast process, but my god, it's effective.
Half an hour with the fabric shaver and my favorite
blue jersey was totally rejuvenated a million bucks. And it's funny.
I mean, in a throwaway world, there is still something
so satisfying about taking the time and effort to preserve quality.
(05:55):
It starts at the top. The king does it, getting
his cobbler to sew little leather patches onto his old
John Lob shoes. I've got a canvas backpack that I
have used every day for twelve years. It's been around
the world multiple times with me. It's been everywhere, beaten
up during the day, but always nursed back to health
(06:16):
at night, and now we have an even easier way
to keep our wool looking sharp. AI or quantum computing
might be the technology for the coming century, But if
you spot me walking about in my blue jersey this winter,
take my word. Something altogether more humble is my pick
(06:40):
for the technology of the season.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Imagine being a fly on the wall in that pre
show production meeting. I mean, I'm not sure who suggested
doing an opening editorial on Jack's favorite shaver. I mean,
you would like to think that it was probably Jack
himself and that there was nobody else who was interested
(07:02):
enough to suggest it. But obviously everybody agreed that that
was the thing to do. Pretty amazing, amazing stuff. How
radio shows get made, isn't it Musical City?
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Actually, this for whole podcast is turning into a sort
of a list of things that I've got no interest
in whatsoever. Really, I couldn't be less interested in Taylor
Swift or Travis Kelsey or people who think that it's
fun to go to shut down half of New York
to go to their wedding.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
America at two hundred and fifty asks citizens to reflect
on who they are and where they've come from and
where they're heading. The Taylor and Travis wedding just ask
them to celebrate happiness. The next two hundred and fifty
years obviously won't be defined by wedding or the anniversary
celebrations this weekend. That will depend the choices America makes
after the fireworks have faded. In two and a half centuries,
(07:56):
the United States has grown from a fragile democratic experiment
into the world's largest economy and military superpower and a
cultural force. The next chapter goes as well as well
the next chapter goes as well? Is how the next
chapter goes is far from guaranteed. In the short term,
America faces familiar challenges political division, rising debt, economic ascertainty,
(08:21):
social inequity, and increasingly volatile world. Longer term, the stakes
are even higher. Can America remain a global leader in energy,
in tech and AI, political influence and military power? Can
it rebuild trust in its democratic institutions? Can it balance
competition with China and avoid further conflicts which could define
this century? There's a big, scary, uncerted, contested questions and
(08:45):
matter a whole lot more than the one to which
Travis and Taylor will respond, I do. But in an
age where attention is the world's most valuable currency, it
is not surprising it is the love story that's captured
more hearts and headlines than one of the most significant
anniversaries in American history. Sometimes it just feels right to
take a moment and let yourself be happy.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
You see any love or romance or anything in that
story at all? Or is it just hype and clicks
and popularity. And I mean, she's right. I think Prentiss
right there. I think it does sum up everything about America,
but it's everything that's wrong with it in my view.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Anyway, I guess I'm just.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Not a romantic news talk been right. So John Earl
basically filmed his trials and tribulations raising his daughter with
special needs, and it's become a movie. I don't think
he quite knows how that happened, but anyway, I think
he tried to explain it with Jack on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
For anyone who hasn't seen Feather Strength yet, just give
us the kind of back of the envelope explanation. What
is the story?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
The story is.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
A free spirited guy that married another free spirited woman
and they had many adventures around the world kind of big,
big vision and living on a wide scale, and then
(10:23):
the unexpected situation where you have something come across your
path which is changes you will completely turns it upside down.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah, it's a it's a story of your family life,
and it's a story about relationships. But really it's a
kind of it's a meditation a on on the experience
of having life take a dramatic turn in a way
(10:56):
that you weren't possibly expecting, and the incredible challenges that
come with that, but also the kind of unexpected delights
and joys that come with that. Is that fair?
Speaker 8 (11:05):
Absolutely? Absolutely? So it's it's a balance to not to
not put too much hardship in and lots of the
just the real stuff that sustains us as parents as
well as now that it's heading out into the world viewers.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, So tell us a little bit more about your
your family. So you because you live in you live
in Europe. But so you and your wife have two daughters, right, right, Yeah,
and and your second daughter, so she was born with
really significant disabilities, right, requiring twenty four seven care, that's.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Right, And so.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
How did you digest that at first?
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Was that.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
It's it's a process. And I was just talking with
Karen about this before, and it's a process that it
doesn't stop. You know, you'll enter a new phase of
your life and you it comes back because you look
at people around you that are experiencing things that are normal,
and you don't have that same normal stuff going on.
(12:15):
So it's a it's a process that has taken is
taking time, and I just need to know we're still
deeply in this. It's not like this is a story
that's past. We're in it and you will be for life, right,
will be for life?
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (12:33):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yeah, So how are your daughters now?
Speaker 8 (12:38):
The children in the film are that there are two
and a half years apart, and the story in the
film finishes when when our eldest is around six or seven.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah right, yeah, okay, all right, Jack saved it at
the end. There, I'm back in. At least we finished
with something that I had some interest in. It's all
about me. This is my podcast. I wanted to be
quite clear. It's nothing to do with the the various
different newsborks, the'd be hosts that I featured are out
the podcast. This is about me. Don't forget it. I'll
(13:14):
see you back here again with another podcast about me. Shortly,
it's the one like this, but it's about my hosting stuff.
It's called the Rewrap. Otherwise, if you want more like this,
exactly like this, I'll see you back here again tomorrow.
It won't be exactly like this because it's a different day,
different subjects, slightly different hosts, but kind of like this,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
See you then used Talking Talking Zaid Beam for more
from News Talk said B. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcast on iHeartRadio
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