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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hert, and we're
looking back on Monday. And I hope you didn't try
and call an ambulance yesterday because they'd instituted an extra
level of management and oversight or something that the emergency
(00:47):
services were under more emergency than normal. Anyway, talk about that.
Tony Randall died suddenly. He was a Wellington counselor, and
Ryan wanted to pay tribute to him. The ran fairly
Shield changed hands over the weekend, did you notice? And
Marcus just literally had as a product endorsement at the
(01:09):
end of the podcast. If you want to find out
the best way to clean your oven, stand by for that.
But before any anything else. Christopher Luxon's leadership. If I
had a dollar for every time I've said that in
the last year or so, Okay, I think at least
(01:30):
seven dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Politics dot co dot MZ today is running that the
vote was actually twenty one twenty eight. Now I don't
know if either of those things are real. But the
point of it is, why is it that a number
that has been kept secret for four months now all
of a sudden making its way out. Why is someone
within national it has to come from with the national.
Why is someone within National circulating numbers that show that
(01:51):
Luckxeon's leadership came down to maybe only three MP's who
had they switched sides, would have ended his days as
prime minister. Why because someone's trying to start it up again,
aren't they Because of the week that he had, there
are texts and phone calls happening again. Matthew Houston is
going hard again, hard enough to make me feel like
he's trying to force this thing to happen. Erica Stanford
has clearly positioned herself to look more like a leader
(02:11):
if it does come to it, and the opinion pieces
in the weekend papers were excoriating of Luxen. Now, I
wish that I could say to you right now that
he doesn't deserve the criticism he's getting. But the truth
is that he scored own goals all week last week,
right and then the next taking a risk sticking with him.
They are because the last week suggests that he is
going to make a lot of mistakes between now and
(02:33):
the election, and God only knows what that's going to
do to their polling.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Personally, I think that they have left it too late
to roll him. I think they need to stick it
out with him now. But clearly there are still forces
within the National Party who disagree with that position and
think that they can roll him. And I think what
you're seeing right now is that they are testing the
waters to see if they can get a roll on.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I'm starting to think that Heather is driving all this.
I I just I feel like nobody's talked about or
brought Lux's leadership at the question as much as she has.
Imagine if she suddenly became leader of the National Party,
(03:12):
I think a lot of people would be into that
news talk.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Has it been right?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
So Saint John's ambulance under a lot of pressure over
the weekend. Apparently Monday is the worst day for ambulance
call outs. I think that's what we learned yesterday, wasn't it.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Why is it that so many people see the ambulance
as the first response and you are asked to pay
if you can when you're taking an ambulance, so you
might as well hop in a cab or an uber
if you think there's something really wrong and needs checking out.
That's a lot of calls in a day. I would
(03:50):
love to know how many of them were absolutely essential
where people may well have died if they didn't get
that ambulance ride to the hospital. I'd just be interested
to know what the advice. Like Doug is saying, navigate
(04:11):
the health system. Well, so, okay, you ring health line
and they answer pretty quickly, they might be able to
give you advice. Is it just panic when something happens like,
oh my god, what do I do? They're in terrible pain.
I don't know how to deal with it. I'm going
to ring the ambulance rather than I'm going to ring
(04:33):
health line and see if this is something I can
manage myself. I don't know. I'd really love to hear
your experiences. I mean, in my mate's case, Les's case,
if he hadn't got SOD to the hospital, she wouldn't
be here and that's that. How many cases are like
(04:56):
that with an ambulance or are people using it because
they have no other options? And what is the medical
I mean if in doubt ring an ambulance. Is that
really the advice that Saint John would give.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Now I didn't listen to the whole twenty four hours
non stop of talkback on this subject over the last day,
but I have a sneaking suspicion that they are become
of their own success. That you know, they've be running
their campaign that you have your your pendant or your
wrist button, whatever that's called. You know, you some John's
(05:29):
ambulance personal alarm and you push that and they come,
because I assume that counts as a call out as well.
I mean, I'm just I don't know that for certain,
but I'm assuming it does. And I happen to know
from firsthand experience, first hand experience, secondhand experience, because it's
(05:52):
not actually me who's wearing the alarm, but I know
somebody who wears. In fact, I know three people who
wear these alarms, and at least one of them, if
they fall over and can't get up again, they have
to push the alarm because it's they don't have any
other way of getting up, and they've had to do
(06:13):
that multiple times. I assume in those circumstances, I dearly
the ambulance would just seen one of those utes around.
You know how they've got utes now and that aren't
Paul ambulances, although I don't know if they know if
somebody just pushes the alarm. Oh it's so confusing, isn't it.
I've talked for a lot longer on this than I
(06:34):
thought I was going to.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You's talk side now.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Tony Randall, the Wellington councilor, died over the weekend. I
think Ryan thought that he was doing a pretty good job.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
He was the guy you would call when you wanted
to know the facts of a case, when you wanted
to know the numbers. Tony was the guy who found
just a wee mistake in the council's modeling when they
were lowering speed limits in the Capitol. Remember that not
a single counselor or council officer, staff member, council paid
boff picked up on the mistake. It was out by
(07:11):
two hundred and fifty million dollars. Tony did. He consistently
complained that the council wasn't fully funding Wellington waters projects,
meaning the pipes weren't getting fixed. He was only there
since twenty twenty two. He was analytical and not particularly partisan.
Too often you hear of local and national politicians getting
(07:31):
into office who probably shouldn't be there. They have no
particular skills or background to justify it. They're elected by
a margin of a few hundred or even a few
dozen votes by a public that doesn't really pay close
attention to the details. As a result, you get politicians
who also don't pay attention to the details. Tony Randall
(07:52):
did and that's what made him special. Voters deserve more
analytical thinkers in local government who are across the facts
and the numbers, rather than ticking a box on their
way into Parliament. All the United Nations where you get
the sense that a lot of these guys really wish
they could be.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
It's like I always say, the kind of people who
really want to be on a council are probably the
kind of people you should never have on a council.
I always think, so Kennabrey's got the rand Philly shield again.
I think the rest of us go again when that happens,
(08:30):
don't they. I'm not sure whether Bay of Plenty or Northland,
who are the next two challenges, have got much chance
of getting it off them. And then they play away
a week. I think I was looking at having a
little look at the drawer yesterday and then it'll be
Wellington and Kennerbury's recorded against Wellington hasn't been that flash
in recent times, so here's hoping Wellington can shake things up.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
Chris, mate, did you wear your eye patch and your
Canterbury jersey to work today?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Not quite, mate, not quite. It's nice to get the
rad Philly shield back. But yeah, yeah, but you.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Learn you've got to be a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You know what went down with Razor and all the rest.
He was a good, good Canterbury boy, so you know,
talking up Canterbury too much. And also what we saw
with the Super rugby as well, that was a tough
watch watching them get get annihilated. So yeah, we'll take
the wind, but I don't want to get a hit
of our house at this point, Chris.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Look, I just loved it because even though we take
it off our Otago brothers, the rifle home of it
in christ Church, sorry Awkland, it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Was a great watch watching them get annihilated. I bet
was a fantastic week that week after the Chiefs annihilated
the Crusaders, it was great. And then of course the
Chiefs got annihilated themselves. There's a lot of annihilation went
on in the Zilvereropian competition. Wasn't news talk ziby right.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
So.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
This is a bit of a weird one. Marcus has
been cleaning his oven and he wants to let you
know what he used to do it. I don't think
this is a paid advertisement, but anyway, if you're wondering,
and we haven't an.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
Overly dirty oven, but one time I cooked something, I
didn't put the tray beneath some pies I think apple pies,
and some stuff came down. It caramelized and it causes
the oven to give out smoke if it's on too
hot for too long. So what I did today, well,
someone rang up introduced did they use Selly's gel. I've
hated cleaning the oven. I hate the spray. I hate
(10:50):
the spray because you go on with a spray and
hail most of it. You can see your life shortening,
and you're thinking, well, how unsafe can it be if
I let people use it themselves? But then again they
are saying we're a mask, so you know, and you
haven't got a mask to say you're doing it. So anyway,
Vanessa was going to Miter ten the weekend I was
supposed to be, hadn't gone around to what I said,
get a smoke alarm because our one was incessantly beeping.
(11:15):
And also go and get some of that Selly's gel
to clean the ovens. Well, goodness me, boy, oh boy,
if I spent the day cleaning the oven it is.
I've loved the gel man. It gets the stuff off,
and it wasn't an overly dirty oven. But now that
the oven door it looks brand new. If it wasn't
(11:36):
an oven from the nineteen nineties, it's show the oven
has never been that good. So wow, I've discovered something,
and that was you know, I don't normally take advice
from talkback callers because well sometimes I do, but wow.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Oh that's good to know it's good that might have
good there to go next time. I was making steak
with mushrooms and zucchini last night, and when I say
making it, I was trying. I can't really get my
head around doing steak inside. It's sort of a I
prefer to do it on the barbecue, but at this
time of the year where the conditions sometimes prohibit compppening,
(12:10):
and I haven't really settled upon the best way to
cook a steak inside. I know it shouldn't be this hard,
but anyway, because I was doing mushrooms and zucchini and
a bit of garlic and soy sauce to go with
the steak, I sort of cooked it all in the
same pan and then I ended up with a really thick, black,
(12:32):
sooty mess on the pan, and I thought, oh my god,
I mean this is a scan pan we're talking about
as well, so I'd have to go out and get
a sick and mortgage to replace that. I thought, I'm
going to be in such a big trouble with the
mist manager and we're ruining that pan. And I know
that you're supposed to put like, you know, your boil
What do you do your boil water with baking soda
(12:54):
in it? Is that how you get that off? And
so then I went to the cupboard to try and
find baking I don't think we've got any baking soda.
We got I'm not quite sure why nothing's labeled in
the cupboard. We've just got all these containers full of
white powder, and you know that some of it's icing sugar,
some of its flours. Some of it might be self
raising flower none of it. And sometimes there's a bet
(13:17):
off the packet. It's been put in with whatever the
white powder is to give you an indication. Do you
have this at your is this just at my house?
If this is anyway, I just went with the baking
powder in the end, and I'll tell you what did
a great job. But all the stuff just came off
when I So that was a relief. I thought there's
going to be a divorce there for a minute after
(13:39):
thirty years, because I'd ruined the scampen. But if I'd
had the Sally's oven cleaning gel, I might have used that.
So yeah, as usual, this last. But it's gone on
way too long, and I can't believe you're still here.
But thank you for being here, and hopefully you'll come
back and be here again tomorrow. See then used.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Talks Doors it been for more from news Talk, said B.
Listen live on air or online and keep our shows
with you were you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hert, and we're
looking back on Monday. And I hope you didn't try
and call an ambulance yesterday because they'd instituted an extra
level of management and oversight or something that the emergency
(00:47):
services were under more emergency than normal. Anyway, talk about that.
Tony Randall died suddenly. He was a Wellington counselor, and
Ryan wanted to pay tribute to him. The ran fairly
Shield changed hands over the weekend, did you notice? And
Marcus just literally had as a product endorsement at the
(01:09):
end of the podcast. If you want to find out
the best way to clean your oven, stand by for that.
But before any anything else. Christopher Luxon's leadership. If I
had a dollar for every time I've said that in
the last year or so, Okay, I think at least
(01:30):
seven dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Politics dot co dot MZ today is running that the
vote was actually twenty one twenty eight. Now I don't
know if either of those things are real. But the
point of it is, why is it that a number
that has been kept secret for four months now all
of a sudden making its way out. Why is someone
within national it has to come from with the national.
Why is someone within National circulating numbers that show that
(01:51):
Luckxeon's leadership came down to maybe only three MP's who
had they switched sides, would have ended his days as
prime minister. Why because someone's trying to start it up again,
aren't they Because of the week that he had, there
are texts and phone calls happening again. Matthew Houston is
going hard again, hard enough to make me feel like
he's trying to force this thing to happen. Erica Stanford
has clearly positioned herself to look more like a leader
(02:11):
if it does come to it, and the opinion pieces
in the weekend papers were excoriating of Luxen. Now, I
wish that I could say to you right now that
he doesn't deserve the criticism he's getting. But the truth
is that he scored own goals all week last week,
right and then the next taking a risk sticking with him.
They are because the last week suggests that he is
going to make a lot of mistakes between now and
(02:33):
the election, and God only knows what that's going to
do to their polling.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Personally, I think that they have left it too late
to roll him. I think they need to stick it
out with him now. But clearly there are still forces
within the National Party who disagree with that position and
think that they can roll him. And I think what
you're seeing right now is that they are testing the
waters to see if they can get a roll on.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I'm starting to think that Heather is driving all this.
I I just I feel like nobody's talked about or
brought Lux's leadership at the question as much as she has.
Imagine if she suddenly became leader of the National Party,
(03:12):
I think a lot of people would be into that
news talk.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Has it been right?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
So Saint John's ambulance under a lot of pressure over
the weekend. Apparently Monday is the worst day for ambulance
call outs. I think that's what we learned yesterday, wasn't it.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Why is it that so many people see the ambulance
as the first response and you are asked to pay
if you can when you're taking an ambulance, so you
might as well hop in a cab or an uber
if you think there's something really wrong and needs checking out.
That's a lot of calls in a day. I would
(03:50):
love to know how many of them were absolutely essential
where people may well have died if they didn't get
that ambulance ride to the hospital. I'd just be interested
to know what the advice. Like Doug is saying, navigate
(04:11):
the health system. Well, so, okay, you ring health line
and they answer pretty quickly, they might be able to
give you advice. Is it just panic when something happens like,
oh my god, what do I do? They're in terrible pain.
I don't know how to deal with it. I'm going
to ring the ambulance rather than I'm going to ring
(04:33):
health line and see if this is something I can
manage myself. I don't know. I'd really love to hear
your experiences. I mean, in my mate's case, Les's case,
if he hadn't got SOD to the hospital, she wouldn't
be here and that's that. How many cases are like
(04:56):
that with an ambulance or are people using it because
they have no other options? And what is the medical
I mean if in doubt ring an ambulance. Is that
really the advice that Saint John would give.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Now I didn't listen to the whole twenty four hours
non stop of talkback on this subject over the last day,
but I have a sneaking suspicion that they are become
of their own success. That you know, they've be running
their campaign that you have your your pendant or your
wrist button, whatever that's called. You know, you some John's
(05:29):
ambulance personal alarm and you push that and they come,
because I assume that counts as a call out as well.
I mean, I'm just I don't know that for certain,
but I'm assuming it does. And I happen to know
from firsthand experience, first hand experience, secondhand experience, because it's
(05:52):
not actually me who's wearing the alarm, but I know
somebody who wears. In fact, I know three people who
wear these alarms, and at least one of them, if
they fall over and can't get up again, they have
to push the alarm because it's they don't have any
other way of getting up, and they've had to do
(06:13):
that multiple times. I assume in those circumstances, I dearly
the ambulance would just seen one of those utes around.
You know how they've got utes now and that aren't
Paul ambulances, although I don't know if they know if
somebody just pushes the alarm. Oh it's so confusing, isn't it.
I've talked for a lot longer on this than I
(06:34):
thought I was going to.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You's talk side now.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Tony Randall, the Wellington councilor, died over the weekend. I
think Ryan thought that he was doing a pretty good job.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
He was the guy you would call when you wanted
to know the facts of a case, when you wanted
to know the numbers. Tony was the guy who found
just a wee mistake in the council's modeling when they
were lowering speed limits in the Capitol. Remember that not
a single counselor or council officer, staff member, council paid
boff picked up on the mistake. It was out by
(07:11):
two hundred and fifty million dollars. Tony did. He consistently
complained that the council wasn't fully funding Wellington waters projects,
meaning the pipes weren't getting fixed. He was only there
since twenty twenty two. He was analytical and not particularly partisan.
Too often you hear of local and national politicians getting
(07:31):
into office who probably shouldn't be there. They have no
particular skills or background to justify it. They're elected by
a margin of a few hundred or even a few
dozen votes by a public that doesn't really pay close
attention to the details. As a result, you get politicians
who also don't pay attention to the details. Tony Randall
(07:52):
did and that's what made him special. Voters deserve more
analytical thinkers in local government who are across the facts
and the numbers, rather than ticking a box on their
way into Parliament. All the United Nations where you get
the sense that a lot of these guys really wish
they could be.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
It's like I always say, the kind of people who
really want to be on a council are probably the
kind of people you should never have on a council.
I always think, so Kennabrey's got the rand Philly shield again.
I think the rest of us go again when that happens,
(08:30):
don't they. I'm not sure whether Bay of Plenty or Northland,
who are the next two challenges, have got much chance
of getting it off them. And then they play away
a week. I think I was looking at having a
little look at the drawer yesterday and then it'll be
Wellington and Kennerbury's recorded against Wellington hasn't been that flash
in recent times, so here's hoping Wellington can shake things up.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
Chris, mate, did you wear your eye patch and your
Canterbury jersey to work today?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Not quite, mate, not quite. It's nice to get the
rad Philly shield back. But yeah, yeah, but you.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Learn you've got to be a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You know what went down with Razor and all the rest.
He was a good, good Canterbury boy, so you know,
talking up Canterbury too much. And also what we saw
with the Super rugby as well, that was a tough
watch watching them get get annihilated. So yeah, we'll take
the wind, but I don't want to get a hit
of our house at this point, Chris.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Look, I just loved it because even though we take
it off our Otago brothers, the rifle home of it
in christ Church, sorry Awkland, it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Was a great watch watching them get annihilated. I bet
was a fantastic week that week after the Chiefs annihilated
the Crusaders, it was great. And then of course the
Chiefs got annihilated themselves. There's a lot of annihilation went
on in the Zilvereropian competition. Wasn't news talk ziby right.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
So.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
This is a bit of a weird one. Marcus has
been cleaning his oven and he wants to let you
know what he used to do it. I don't think
this is a paid advertisement, but anyway, if you're wondering,
and we haven't an.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
Overly dirty oven, but one time I cooked something, I
didn't put the tray beneath some pies I think apple pies,
and some stuff came down. It caramelized and it causes
the oven to give out smoke if it's on too
hot for too long. So what I did today, well,
someone rang up introduced did they use Selly's gel. I've
hated cleaning the oven. I hate the spray. I hate
(10:50):
the spray because you go on with a spray and
hail most of it. You can see your life shortening,
and you're thinking, well, how unsafe can it be if
I let people use it themselves? But then again they
are saying we're a mask, so you know, and you
haven't got a mask to say you're doing it. So anyway,
Vanessa was going to Miter ten the weekend I was
supposed to be, hadn't gone around to what I said,
get a smoke alarm because our one was incessantly beeping.
(11:15):
And also go and get some of that Selly's gel
to clean the ovens. Well, goodness me, boy, oh boy,
if I spent the day cleaning the oven it is.
I've loved the gel man. It gets the stuff off,
and it wasn't an overly dirty oven. But now that
the oven door it looks brand new. If it wasn't
(11:36):
an oven from the nineteen nineties, it's show the oven
has never been that good. So wow, I've discovered something,
and that was you know, I don't normally take advice
from talkback callers because well sometimes I do, but wow.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Oh that's good to know it's good that might have
good there to go next time. I was making steak
with mushrooms and zucchini last night, and when I say
making it, I was trying. I can't really get my
head around doing steak inside. It's sort of a I
prefer to do it on the barbecue, but at this
time of the year where the conditions sometimes prohibit compppening,
(12:10):
and I haven't really settled upon the best way to
cook a steak inside. I know it shouldn't be this hard,
but anyway, because I was doing mushrooms and zucchini and
a bit of garlic and soy sauce to go with
the steak, I sort of cooked it all in the
same pan and then I ended up with a really thick, black,
(12:32):
sooty mess on the pan, and I thought, oh my god,
I mean this is a scan pan we're talking about
as well, so I'd have to go out and get
a sick and mortgage to replace that. I thought, I'm
going to be in such a big trouble with the
mist manager and we're ruining that pan. And I know
that you're supposed to put like, you know, your boil
What do you do your boil water with baking soda
(12:54):
in it? Is that how you get that off? And
so then I went to the cupboard to try and
find baking I don't think we've got any baking soda.
We got I'm not quite sure why nothing's labeled in
the cupboard. We've just got all these containers full of
white powder, and you know that some of it's icing sugar,
some of its flours. Some of it might be self
raising flower none of it. And sometimes there's a bet
(13:17):
off the packet. It's been put in with whatever the
white powder is to give you an indication. Do you
have this at your is this just at my house?
If this is anyway, I just went with the baking
powder in the end, and I'll tell you what did
a great job. But all the stuff just came off
when I So that was a relief. I thought there's
going to be a divorce there for a minute after
(13:39):
thirty years, because I'd ruined the scampen. But if I'd
had the Sally's oven cleaning gel, I might have used that.
So yeah, as usual, this last. But it's gone on
way too long, and I can't believe you're still here.
But thank you for being here, and hopefully you'll come
back and be here again tomorrow. See then used.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Talks Doors it been for more from news Talk, said B.
Listen live on air or online and keep our shows
with you were you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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