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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am glean Hart and we
are looking back at Wednesday and today we're going to
be discussing the gold mine that nobody seems to want,
the bed text that nobody's going to know this, the
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stupid Crusaders horses which I don't think anybody's really going
to nurse. And then we're going to wrap up with
some podcasts really good to see of Matt and Tyler.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
But first up, So, yeah, poor old Lana Pacifica A
couldn't make it work well.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
One of Pacifica was absolutely one of the highlights of
last year's Super Rugby season, but it just has never
stacked up financially, has it. I Mean, the only reason
it actually was able to pay its way for a
bit was because it had a temporary injection of government
money from various government agencies. It had a little bit
of financial help from New Zealand Rugby, a little bit
of financial help from World Rugby and then, of course
there was the fact that they were majority owned by
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a charity that drew tens of millions of dollars in
an income from the government, and once that government contract
was cut, the financial help came to an abrupt end.
So the money has run out, it's lost its big star,
Ardi sav is now in Japan, it's losing games, it's
now at the bottom of the table. The fans have
deserted it again. You could make the argument, and it
would be a fair argument to make that Mouana Pacifica
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was never really given a fair goal because it doesn't
even have a home ground. And even if you gave
it a home ground, I would say, though, even if
you gave it a home ground and a star like
Ardi every single season, it still would not make enough
money to wash its face though, because none of the
clubs do so, basically none, there are very few who do.
But if you're hoping against hope that someone swoops in
too save Moana Pacifica, tell me who it can't be
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New Zealand Rugby, because if they help more Onana Pacifica,
are they also going to start helping the Hurricanes when
they make a loss. It can't be the government because
we are facing the prospect of a global recession as
a country that basically leaves private business doesn't it, And
if private business people do it, it will only be
out of generosity. And how long does generosity last. If
that doesn't end up with results in the bank and
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results on the field, I would say put your hopes away.
This will be more Onana Pacific as last season.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I feel like they've not really tried hard enough to
make it work. And when I say they are, I'm
talking about rugby.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Also.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
It's sort of an amorphous kind of administration, like in
the AFL for example, in Australia. You know they have
to sinkle the draft where certain clubs get first pack
of the good new players. I mean that happens in
a lot of professional sport. And they they when they
have an expansion club, a new club, they give them,
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you know, first pack.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
They make life a bit easier for.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Them, and you know, and there are certain other accommodations
that they make as well. I feel like the drewer
and the winer Pacifica have just been thrown in the
deep end right from the start and it's a single
swim and I don't know that that's necessarily the best
way to go about it if you do want to
expand the competition.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Maybe they never really wanted to us talk it been.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Right, so the old the old gold mine down south
toick and forward against or as you're making both arguments.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
If facebook group has eight and a half thousand people
as part of it, and they say, look at the
economic relief, look at those jobs or three hundred and
fifty seven direct ones and all the subsequent jobs from
money that flows through through the region, And they say,
our region is under financial pressure. We need the jobs
and we need a little bit of diing coming through
the economy. But opponents like Sam and former Prime Minister
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Helen Clark warned that the fast track law has little
regard for the environment and they're concerned this mine will
destroy threatened plants, scar a unique landscape and pollute the
land and water. And they say New Zealand will not
get all the economic benefits because Santana is an Australian company,
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so the profits go there. The royalties are low. But yes,
there will be jobs and we'll get the GSC and
the tax from that. But is it enough to stick
in four four big mines, a couple of big dams,
including a tailings dam that's a kilometer along that's full
of all sorts of poisonous minerals, in a seismic area
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where if there was a big quake and the dam burst,
the water would flow straight down into Late Dunstan and
then of course into the Kluther and then all over
Otago Southend. Wow, there's good arguments on both sides. Don't
you think.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I don't think we're interested in hearing both sides of
an argument?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Are we and people making good points but whatever their
point of viewers and having a rational and reasoned discussion
about it. That's not That's not what talkback is all about.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Is it us?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Talk? Sid?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So this ongoing we anguish over whether we should charge
a bid tex here in New Zealand, basically, you know,
making tourists pay a little bit more to come here.
Why is it such an agony when other countries seem
to do it?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Just vide here's.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Ryan tourism hotspots with small populations, small resident population struggle
to fund what is required, roads, amenities, housing. They all
suffer as a result, and the government has so far
I've been turning around and saying to Queenstown, Gnat, you
can't have a bid tex N. They want five percent
done in Queenstown. And they're doing this because they don't
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like the word tax. Right. They've made some promises about this,
but as I've said many times on the show before,
they will you turn on this position because it makes
no sense and logic will prevail. You can't rely on
a ratio of one to thirty. Rod Drury, he lives
down there in that way, he reckons. We need a
model like Aspen and Colorado, there are similar mountain towns.
They use tourism revenues to fund core infrastructure, not just marketing.
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Ninety percent of the local lodging tax they call it there,
you can spend that on affordable housing, childcare for workers,
important because you need workers to run the place, capital
improvements to the trails, etc. Ten percent of that is
required to stay in pure promotion for tourism. It's a
good idea, it makes sense. It's only a matter of
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time before we do the same.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Could we.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Get the water pistol thing happening like they do in
Europe where they shoot tourists with water pistols because there's
too many of them.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
That sounds run.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
But we escalated a little bit and go nerf gun.
It's nothing more fun than an earth gun. We could
set up like a cornlet at the airport and you know,
you could just turn up whenever you want to pick
up a nerf gun and shoot a few terrorists.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
As they come in. It'd be awesome. Right back to
super Rugby. Not really, but sort of. They had stupid
horses with the stupid.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Crusaders aren't allowed and the new stupid stadium.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
So I don't like to give the state. I'll take
their back.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
We've lost their horses for taking the horse out of
a stadium.
Speaker 8 (07:43):
PC gone mad.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
They've gone mad, haven't they? What?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
What? What?
Speaker 7 (07:48):
What?
Speaker 8 (07:49):
Why would you stop the horses they brought?
Speaker 7 (07:54):
They have not made room clear for horses and move around.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
It's crazy.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
It's got to you people, hundreds and hundreds of millions
of dollars. You deserve your horses.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
You're paying for it.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
I know we can't help them because they have made
room for the horses going to the state.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
How much room do you need?
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Well, horses have to run around the field, so need
of ground and it's all artificial grass and the horses
will dig it up anyway. So not a lot of
good thoughts being put into the new stadium horses. We've
lost the real horses.
Speaker 8 (08:26):
The artificial grass is a problem.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Yeah, but they should have thought about putting TF and
for the horses the stadium, I can't even see a solution.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
Could there be robot horses?
Speaker 9 (08:38):
Not really?
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Could there are lighter horses?
Speaker 8 (08:45):
You get those those Chinese dragons at Chinese New Year
with people in the But that's what I can't work out.
Speaker 9 (08:50):
The solution their ed.
Speaker 8 (08:52):
Yeah, I'm amazed about that they've been through so much.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It's always the pooh that I can't stop thinking about
when there are horses involved. You know, I don't know
if you've ever ended up going down a street after
a horse has gone down, but there's always pooh.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
You don't want to be playing rugby in a pile
of poo?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
News Talks It.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Bean Okay podcast really at time? This one is really
I just couldn't be bothered listening to it before.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I've put it in the podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And Matt and Tyler's producer has given me no clue
really here that he's.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Called this cut solves another mystery. I don't even know
who solves another mystery. Let's find out.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
I was at a cafe having breakfast this morning, right, right,
and I'm going to say for personal security, bodyguard type people.
What's the word for those come in with sunglasses and little.
Speaker 9 (10:00):
Little earpieces pieces. Yeah, it looks very matrixy.
Speaker 8 (10:03):
Sometimes came into the cafe. What would you call those people?
Personal security?
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (10:08):
Security, there'd be diplomatic services if they were government person.
So they came into the cafe, right, looked around, yes,
scoped the area, and then two gentlemen came in and
sat down and had their breakfast. So I was honoring
who who were in New Zuald. They weren't politicians. I
didn't recognize them, right, And I was with a very
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learned broadcaster who also didn't recognize them. He's been in
media for a very long time. Yeah, I won't say
who that is, but he was. He was looking around.
He didn't recognize these two people. So who's in this
country that needs I'm going to say four to five
personal security? That makes them look like that Clint Eastwood
movie when he was running along beside the limit.
Speaker 9 (10:48):
Great movie, great actor.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
Who's in Central Auckland at the moment that needs that
kind of security. Are they live or were they billionaires?
Speaker 9 (10:55):
That is I mean that's high level. That is very VIP.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
Because sometimes CEO is a big company's visiting or billionaires
need a bit of security stopped getting kidnapped or whatever.
Or maybe they were maybe they were visiting dignitaries. Anyone
know who's who's five big security dude? Actually one of
them was a lady five security.
Speaker 9 (11:17):
Oh they had a lady on the security yep, yep.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
So who's five security? Important? That's in central Aukland at
the moment nine two if you know, a couple of
good looking men probably in that They looked like they
were fifty.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
Were they suited up there?
Speaker 8 (11:30):
Sooner?
Speaker 9 (11:30):
Okay, all right the security businessman?
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Yeah, interesting appeaks my interest. I going to tell you, Tyler,
I peaked my interest.
Speaker 9 (11:37):
With a businessman wearing shades as well.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
They were not wearing shades. In fact, I may have
added shades to the security. They definitely had the ear pieces.
Speaker 9 (11:47):
Because secretly, that's what you want. You just want one
guy to go into a cafe, scope around and then
say right, go on through, going through for me.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
For me. The fact this security looks so much like
security becomes a security risk, right, yeah, tell it's outside
Because I was like, I was thinking, do I need
to kidnap one of these guys for financial gain? They've
got that much security, the must be worth it.
Speaker 9 (12:08):
Yeah, I can say it wasn't Kim dot Com p
p O.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
S Is Tony Personal Protection Officers. It was not Can.
It was not Kim dot Com.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
You can spot him from a mile away.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, honest.
Speaker 8 (12:19):
Just the amount of sweat that dribbling everywhere when Kim
dot COM's in a room.
Speaker 9 (12:24):
Exactly, but yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
So who was it? Who was that they had the
the so many PPOs.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
Come on through someone. Yeah, we've got a lot of
listeners in nine two ninety two. This is interesting.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
I think we found out who it was. I think
so the president of Palos in New Zealand. Look at that. Yeah,
and you showed me a picture of him, and I
think that is him.
Speaker 9 (12:41):
So his name is the president of Palau, Sir Angel
Samuel Whips Junior.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah, as sar Angel well Sarrangel, sir Angel Whips Junior.
Mental name Samuel.
Speaker 8 (13:03):
Char Angel.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
And Whips.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I suppose if you're going to have a crazy last name,
have a crazy first name as well. I mean, that's
no wonder Matt didn't recognize him. That's not going to
fit on a Hello. My name is Sticker, is it?
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It was full of surprises. I am Glen Hart, who
knows what surprises are in store for you.
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