July 19, 2026 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said B Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Being the
Weekend edition, first of yesterday's News. Hi, I'm Glen Heart
and we're looking back at Sunday and Saturday Sounds off
the weekend. Paul Henry is going to save the country,
if not the world. The People World Cup comes to
(00:45):
its ultimate conclusion today. The All Blacks took care of
Ireland on Saturday night, and jend Wigmore is all over
News Talks, d B and everywhere with their new album.
Before any of that, New Zealand First got the a
(01:05):
campaign sort of officially underway over the weekend. A few
sort of stunts castings in their ranks. It's how I
see it. Anyway, you would.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Have been watching Winston's speech with dated breath, wouldn't you,
Not quite bit of breath, but with mild interest.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah, what piqued your interest this time?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I think that the thing that's peached by interest about
the whole way New Zealand First has pitched itself over
the last year or so, in particular and culminating in
this launch today is it's really trying to be the
National Party of the nineteen seventies. It's back to Moldernism.
And I think that's always been Peter's ambition, right from
the time New Zealand First was started, to reshape the
(01:49):
National Party away from its more modern roots and back
to those traditional conservative roots that sparked Moldounism in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
So actually it's ironic. I mean, what do you think
of the recent additions to it. Some former labor ministers
everything the good old days.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
What do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, it is a bit of the good old days.
I think the one candidate that they've attracted who's got
something to offer seems to be Tane Randall. He's got
a bit of wider experience, he's got a forward looking
view compared to some of the others who are somethingly trying,
as you say, to relive the glory days of the past,
and who are really political has been.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It takes one to know one political has been. Peter
done there.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
That's but me.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Ah, I mean people do vote for people for all
sorts of weird reasons. People voted for him because of
a worm Remember news talk has it been And the
question is will people vote for Paul Henry because they
think he's a bit of a dag? Maybe.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
As we've seen in the short space of time since
he announced his intention to stand as a list candidate
for ACT, Henry attracts the kind of media coverage ACT
can't buy. It brings fresh attention to the party and
will probably reach voters who wouldn't normally tune into politics.
If he made it into cabinet, his communication skills could
make him a persuasive minister, but there's a risk. This
(03:17):
is the man who told me I was the size
of the whale live on television when I was pregnant twice.
To be fair, I was. But big personalities can suck
the oxygen out of a campaign, and David Seymour has
spent years carefully building ACT into a significant political force
based on consistent messaging and disciplined policy. If every interview
(03:38):
becomes about poor Henry rather than the ACT party, it
risks becoming a personality show instead of a political movement,
and that's a difficult balance for any leader to manage.
Henry will also be a tough character to rain in.
It's a little like dealing with an adolescent Seawall will
need to set some strong boundaries, but if he manages this,
then Henry will probably help Act more than he will
(03:58):
hurt it. If Henry accepts that Seymour is the leader
and not the supporting Act, the two could successfully compliment
each other. Seamwall providing the policy depth, Henry bringing the attention.
And as for Labor National and all the other parties,
they'd be wise not to focus on Paul Henry. Taking
personal shots only feeds the publicity machine and they're unlikely
to come out on top. Henry has spent decades handling
(04:20):
criticism and often thrives on confrontation. If they do need
to respond to the Henry machine, the smarter move will
be to challenge his policies, questions, experience, and let voters
decide whether the media success automatically translates into political ability. Ultimately,
celebrity may get you elected, but it won't keep you there.
New Zealanders enjoy a colorful character, but we also expect substance.
(04:42):
Paul Henry will one hundred percent make this general election
campaign more entertaining. Whether he can convert attention into effective
public service is still up in the air.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
So that's what we're desperate for.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Our more entertaining election campaign? Is that what we're after.
I just want it to be over a dud, work
myself and not have to work election night. Nobody's actually
asked me to work election night. They just seem to
assume that that's going to happen. I might have something
else on. I might be washing my hair. When I
(05:17):
say washing my hair, I've just got it if I
could find one. So yeah, that excuse, I'll come up
with a different excuse. So as I record this, it's
the morning of the World Cup final. Hasn't happened yet,
but it's sort of messy versus Yamah. Wasn't it the
(05:41):
old Guard versus the New Guard? But like that election
thing that we were talking about before, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
The two of them have to make their respective national
teams in the same Football World Cup. One of them
as one of the youngest players in the tournament, the
other is one of the oldest. Then those two teams
need to come from separate sides of the drawer to
both make the final. You thought that lotto had long odds.
The likelihood of all of these things happening is just
(06:07):
absolutely proper stars Because I'm a total nerd. I follow
a subreddit on social media where people pose silly maths
questions and members of the community try and show their
workings in order to solve them or get close to
solving them. I just knew as soon as Argentina qualified
(06:29):
for the final and the photo of Messi and Yamal
as a baby started trending on the internet once again,
there would be a robust debate about the statistical probability
of these events. I knew it would happen. I was
on my subreddit about ten minutes after the final whistle.
While all of the posters agree there are honestly too
(06:51):
many variables to get a perfect answer, the best efforts
this week put the probability somewhere between one in fifty
nine billion and one in three quadrillion. It is, in short,
highly unlikely. It makes you think, don't you reckon that
(07:13):
little bit harder about the random encounters in your own life?
Who knows if that person you randomly bump into and
almost immediately forget could in years to come be one
of the most important people in your life? Who knows?
Who knows the photographer who shot Messi and Yamal almost
(07:34):
two decades ago, was interviewed about the experience this week,
and honestly, it's hard to disagree with his take. As
the two stars of his photo shoot prepare to meet
once again and face off on the biggest stage in
global sport. He was asked for his thoughts it was,
he said, a true miracle of destiny.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Your shame of like one guy injured and one got
sent off in the first ten minutes of the game
or something. Then who are we supposed to look at?
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Then?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, there are will be like twenty three guys on
the on the pitch. Let's not forget and the ref
and the ref twenty three. Anyway, I thought the ref
is about average Saturday night. You seemed to.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Miss a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
But anyway, the All Blacks one Ireland last, what do
we take from that? Here's the water boy.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
How satisfying was that performance against an Irish side that's
consistently been one of the world's best over the last
few years.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Yeah, it's funny, satisfying. You know, I've watched the game
this morning, and you know, being out there last night,
I think we're we're happy with the win, but obviously
there's always things to work on. You know, we've improved
in the in the first three games, so that's you
know that that's great for the players and for us.
(09:08):
And it really felt like the test message was a
lot a lot on it, you know, playing and you know,
ededon park and and the threat of violent as you said,
you know, one of the best teams in the world,
and you know they didn't die wondering out there, and
you know it was just a credit to them, but
also our boys were standing up to it.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Seemed to be a real balance between the physicality and
your attacking ambition. Did the game unfold pretty much the
way that you thought it would and hoped that it would.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
You know, you always have a picture in your head
and of how the game would go, and you know
we knew that be you know, that'd be at us
with the ball in hand, and you know, they bring
a lot of line pressure, defensive pressure on us, and
you know, I thought our attack really keep their feet
and handle that as well as we could. And then
(10:01):
we just you know, we mixed it up well with
our forwards, you know who worked all night.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Man, he's just fizzing, isn't he like so many rever
you guys, do they just get a little bit too excited,
a little bit over hyped, don't they? Tan Reminer pretty
famous for that over the years. Yeah, you watched that game, think,
oh yeah, All Blacks was going to be going well,
and then of course South Africa beat Wales, you know,
(10:33):
one hundred million to zero after a sort of a
string of quite convincing results of the favor again and
it could be a long tour for the All Blacks
over there.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
News talk Zi been.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Somebody who is about to go on to her back
here as Jen Wigmore. She's back in New Zealand after
living away for quite some time. What's all this beautiful
mess about? It's an album of two halves, the beautiful
half of the messy half. Apparently I just mess not
leonel MISSI.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Welcome back to New Zealand. First of all, thank you
so much. Welcome back to the world. Will you promoting
a brand new album?
Speaker 8 (11:09):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, it's so good. I feel so
happy to have this out and be ready to be
experienced by other people.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Beautiful miss Yeah, beautiful miss what's the mess?
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Oh my god? The missa I carve.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
Out half an hour. Do I need to go and
right right now?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
So we're not going there?
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Yeah, exactly, we do. No, no, no, no, no, no. Miss
it's because life is missy. I'fe just missy. It's it's
not all you know, roses and apple blossoms. It's just not.
And to tell the full picture of anyone's story, there's
going to be beautiful parts, there's going to be missy parts.
It's going to be heartache, loss, love, all of it.
And the last few years have been particularly missy. Anyone
(11:52):
going through a separation and a divorce would know all
about it. Yeah. So yeah, that was the messiest part
for sure.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
It does feel like you've kind of I don't know,
because I haven't been through that kind of major life event,
but it feels like you have responded really proactively by
being like, I'm going to be creating, I'm going to
be doing lots of positive things in the world.
Speaker 8 (12:14):
Definitely.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
In order to try and you know, to whatever it
is regain the momentum, the money and lost or something, well.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
I think you've got to sit in it. What I
learned and what was actually quite a powerful tool is
just sitting in it and confronting that. It's really hard
and it's really bad and it really sucks, you know.
And I think once you actually look at something in
the eyes, you know, you kind of it's less scary,
you're not so afraid of it, and then you sort
(12:41):
of just you come out of it, and then you
can actually channel it into something and your silver learning.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
She's so hard not to love, isn't she. I mean,
I'm not saying that anybody is trying not to love her.
Maybe ex husband I'm gonna get on all right still,
But yeah, she's good feeling a lot of tattoos. I
will say, a lot of tattoos. You've got all like tattoos.
(13:07):
I mean, actually you don't. I don't like tattoos, but
I still like her. So I don't know what I'm
trying to say. Really, let's just stop enough of this.
Why would you listen to a guy who doesn't know
what he wants to say? What a waste of your time.
I'm sorry I've wasted your time. I will react to waste,
you know, ten to fifteen minutes of your time again tomorrow, though,
If you feel like that, I'll see you.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Then used talking talking zid bean.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
For more from Used Talk said b.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said B Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Being the
Weekend edition, first of yesterday's News. Hi, I'm Glen Heart
and we're looking back at Sunday and Saturday Sounds off
the weekend. Paul Henry is going to save the country,
if not the world. The People World Cup comes to
(00:45):
its ultimate conclusion today. The All Blacks took care of
Ireland on Saturday night, and jend Wigmore is all over
News Talks, d B and everywhere with their new album.
Before any of that, New Zealand First got the a
(01:05):
campaign sort of officially underway over the weekend. A few
sort of stunts castings in their ranks. It's how I
see it. Anyway, you would.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Have been watching Winston's speech with dated breath, wouldn't you,
Not quite bit of breath, but with mild interest.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah, what piqued your interest this time?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I think that the thing that's peached by interest about
the whole way New Zealand First has pitched itself over
the last year or so, in particular and culminating in
this launch today is it's really trying to be the
National Party of the nineteen seventies. It's back to Moldernism.
And I think that's always been Peter's ambition, right from
the time New Zealand First was started, to reshape the
(01:49):
National Party away from its more modern roots and back
to those traditional conservative roots that sparked Moldounism in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
So actually it's ironic. I mean, what do you think
of the recent additions to it. Some former labor ministers
everything the good old days.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
What do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, it is a bit of the good old days.
I think the one candidate that they've attracted who's got
something to offer seems to be Tane Randall. He's got
a bit of wider experience, he's got a forward looking
view compared to some of the others who are somethingly trying,
as you say, to relive the glory days of the past,
and who are really political has been.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It takes one to know one political has been. Peter
done there.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
That's but me.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Ah, I mean people do vote for people for all
sorts of weird reasons. People voted for him because of
a worm Remember news talk has it been And the
question is will people vote for Paul Henry because they
think he's a bit of a dag? Maybe.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
As we've seen in the short space of time since
he announced his intention to stand as a list candidate
for ACT, Henry attracts the kind of media coverage ACT
can't buy. It brings fresh attention to the party and
will probably reach voters who wouldn't normally tune into politics.
If he made it into cabinet, his communication skills could
make him a persuasive minister, but there's a risk. This
(03:17):
is the man who told me I was the size
of the whale live on television when I was pregnant twice.
To be fair, I was. But big personalities can suck
the oxygen out of a campaign, and David Seymour has
spent years carefully building ACT into a significant political force
based on consistent messaging and disciplined policy. If every interview
(03:38):
becomes about poor Henry rather than the ACT party, it
risks becoming a personality show instead of a political movement,
and that's a difficult balance for any leader to manage.
Henry will also be a tough character to rain in.
It's a little like dealing with an adolescent Seawall will
need to set some strong boundaries, but if he manages this,
then Henry will probably help Act more than he will
(03:58):
hurt it. If Henry accepts that Seymour is the leader
and not the supporting Act, the two could successfully compliment
each other. Seamwall providing the policy depth, Henry bringing the attention.
And as for Labor National and all the other parties,
they'd be wise not to focus on Paul Henry. Taking
personal shots only feeds the publicity machine and they're unlikely
to come out on top. Henry has spent decades handling
(04:20):
criticism and often thrives on confrontation. If they do need
to respond to the Henry machine, the smarter move will
be to challenge his policies, questions, experience, and let voters
decide whether the media success automatically translates into political ability. Ultimately,
celebrity may get you elected, but it won't keep you there.
New Zealanders enjoy a colorful character, but we also expect substance.
(04:42):
Paul Henry will one hundred percent make this general election
campaign more entertaining. Whether he can convert attention into effective
public service is still up in the air.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
So that's what we're desperate for.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Our more entertaining election campaign? Is that what we're after.
I just want it to be over a dud, work
myself and not have to work election night. Nobody's actually
asked me to work election night. They just seem to
assume that that's going to happen. I might have something
else on. I might be washing my hair. When I
(05:17):
say washing my hair, I've just got it if I
could find one. So yeah, that excuse, I'll come up
with a different excuse. So as I record this, it's
the morning of the World Cup final. Hasn't happened yet,
but it's sort of messy versus Yamah. Wasn't it the
(05:41):
old Guard versus the New Guard? But like that election
thing that we were talking about before, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
The two of them have to make their respective national
teams in the same Football World Cup. One of them
as one of the youngest players in the tournament, the
other is one of the oldest. Then those two teams
need to come from separate sides of the drawer to
both make the final. You thought that lotto had long odds.
The likelihood of all of these things happening is just
(06:07):
absolutely proper stars Because I'm a total nerd. I follow
a subreddit on social media where people pose silly maths
questions and members of the community try and show their
workings in order to solve them or get close to
solving them. I just knew as soon as Argentina qualified
(06:29):
for the final and the photo of Messi and Yamal
as a baby started trending on the internet once again,
there would be a robust debate about the statistical probability
of these events. I knew it would happen. I was
on my subreddit about ten minutes after the final whistle.
While all of the posters agree there are honestly too
(06:51):
many variables to get a perfect answer, the best efforts
this week put the probability somewhere between one in fifty
nine billion and one in three quadrillion. It is, in short,
highly unlikely. It makes you think, don't you reckon that
(07:13):
little bit harder about the random encounters in your own life?
Who knows if that person you randomly bump into and
almost immediately forget could in years to come be one
of the most important people in your life? Who knows?
Who knows the photographer who shot Messi and Yamal almost
(07:34):
two decades ago, was interviewed about the experience this week,
and honestly, it's hard to disagree with his take. As
the two stars of his photo shoot prepare to meet
once again and face off on the biggest stage in
global sport. He was asked for his thoughts it was,
he said, a true miracle of destiny.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Your shame of like one guy injured and one got
sent off in the first ten minutes of the game
or something. Then who are we supposed to look at?
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Then?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, there are will be like twenty three guys on
the on the pitch. Let's not forget and the ref
and the ref twenty three. Anyway, I thought the ref
is about average Saturday night. You seemed to.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Miss a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
But anyway, the All Blacks one Ireland last, what do
we take from that? Here's the water boy.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
How satisfying was that performance against an Irish side that's
consistently been one of the world's best over the last
few years.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Yeah, it's funny, satisfying. You know, I've watched the game
this morning, and you know, being out there last night,
I think we're we're happy with the win, but obviously
there's always things to work on. You know, we've improved
in the in the first three games, so that's you
know that that's great for the players and for us.
(09:08):
And it really felt like the test message was a
lot a lot on it, you know, playing and you know,
ededon park and and the threat of violent as you said,
you know, one of the best teams in the world,
and you know they didn't die wondering out there, and
you know it was just a credit to them, but
also our boys were standing up to it.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Seemed to be a real balance between the physicality and
your attacking ambition. Did the game unfold pretty much the
way that you thought it would and hoped that it would.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
You know, you always have a picture in your head
and of how the game would go, and you know
we knew that be you know, that'd be at us
with the ball in hand, and you know, they bring
a lot of line pressure, defensive pressure on us, and
you know, I thought our attack really keep their feet
and handle that as well as we could. And then
(10:01):
we just you know, we mixed it up well with
our forwards, you know who worked all night.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Man, he's just fizzing, isn't he like so many rever
you guys, do they just get a little bit too excited,
a little bit over hyped, don't they? Tan Reminer pretty
famous for that over the years. Yeah, you watched that game, think,
oh yeah, All Blacks was going to be going well,
and then of course South Africa beat Wales, you know,
(10:33):
one hundred million to zero after a sort of a
string of quite convincing results of the favor again and
it could be a long tour for the All Blacks
over there.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
News talk Zi been.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Somebody who is about to go on to her back
here as Jen Wigmore. She's back in New Zealand after
living away for quite some time. What's all this beautiful
mess about? It's an album of two halves, the beautiful
half of the messy half. Apparently I just mess not
leonel MISSI.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Welcome back to New Zealand. First of all, thank you
so much. Welcome back to the world. Will you promoting
a brand new album?
Speaker 8 (11:09):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, it's so good. I feel so
happy to have this out and be ready to be
experienced by other people.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Beautiful miss Yeah, beautiful miss what's the mess?
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Oh my god? The missa I carve.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
Out half an hour. Do I need to go and
right right now?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
So we're not going there?
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Yeah, exactly, we do. No, no, no, no, no, no. Miss
it's because life is missy. I'fe just missy. It's it's
not all you know, roses and apple blossoms. It's just not.
And to tell the full picture of anyone's story, there's
going to be beautiful parts, there's going to be missy parts.
It's going to be heartache, loss, love, all of it.
And the last few years have been particularly missy. Anyone
(11:52):
going through a separation and a divorce would know all
about it. Yeah. So yeah, that was the messiest part
for sure.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
It does feel like you've kind of I don't know,
because I haven't been through that kind of major life event,
but it feels like you have responded really proactively by
being like, I'm going to be creating, I'm going to
be doing lots of positive things in the world.
Speaker 8 (12:14):
Definitely.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
In order to try and you know, to whatever it
is regain the momentum, the money and lost or something, well.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
I think you've got to sit in it. What I
learned and what was actually quite a powerful tool is
just sitting in it and confronting that. It's really hard
and it's really bad and it really sucks, you know.
And I think once you actually look at something in
the eyes, you know, you kind of it's less scary,
you're not so afraid of it, and then you sort
(12:41):
of just you come out of it, and then you
can actually channel it into something and your silver learning.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
She's so hard not to love, isn't she. I mean,
I'm not saying that anybody is trying not to love her.
Maybe ex husband I'm gonna get on all right still,
But yeah, she's good feeling a lot of tattoos. I
will say, a lot of tattoos. You've got all like tattoos.
(13:07):
I mean, actually you don't. I don't like tattoos, but
I still like her. So I don't know what I'm
trying to say. Really, let's just stop enough of this.
Why would you listen to a guy who doesn't know
what he wants to say? What a waste of your time.
I'm sorry I've wasted your time. I will react to waste,
you know, ten to fifteen minutes of your time again tomorrow, though,
If you feel like that, I'll see you.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Then used talking talking zid bean.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
For more from Used Talk said b.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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