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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First of yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we're
looking back at Wednesday. And so it's going to be
a podcast sort of two halves today because when I
got to work yesterday, at the end of civilization as
we know it was going to be happening at lunchtime,
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gone by lunchtime, and then at lunchtime peace had broken out,
basically with everybody's declaring victory.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
And we'll finish up with.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Matt and Tyler basically confessing corruption at the highest levels.
But stay around for that. But first Art, Yes, let's
just to work our way through the day. So Trump
promising to end civilization in Iran.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Walls aren't generally one on moods, they're one on strategy
and execution, and the game plan for Iran has clearly
been sorely lacking for some time. Even Nigel Farage of
all people, has come out overnight said Trump's gone too
far with his rhetoric. Tucker Carlson he wants the military
to directly disobey Trump's orders refuse to carry out his bombing.
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The reason this is all for nothing is because Trump
could blast Iran's military infrastructure till the cows come home
and still not get every drone, every speedboat, every regime
loving terrorist out there, and all it takes are a
few of them to hold the world to ransom via
the Strait. As we're all learning. So Trump ups the ante,
He talks tough, he threatens to end civilization. And what
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have the Iranians done. They've cut off direct diplomatic talks
with the US, which means we're now in some quite
dangerous territory. Remember, for them to win or claim they
have won, all they have to do is survive to
live another day, which leaves Trump either ending an entire civilization,
which surely he won't do because that could end the world,
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or backing down again. Either way, not a great outcome
for a strong man like him.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
So, as we know, literally Taco Tuesday, I mean it
was Wednesday here, it was Tuesday in the States.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Where Trump boys checked out again.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
News talk has been.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
So yeah, Ryan wasn't too concerned about the forthcoming end
of civilization was Andrew Dickens.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
If the worst does happen, one question that has not
been discussed is how will Iran react If this was
happening to you, if America came and took out the
Auckland Harbor Bridge, would you want to react to this situation?
Would you set up a human shield to in the
other cheek and go, oh yeah, look at that, he's
crazy and take the hit. How will Iran react the
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so called home of terrorism, which isn't This is why
this has all happened. It's ended up being framed as
a battle for the Straits of horn Moves. But remember
this all happen because Israel and the United States wanted
to remove a regime. It was regime change. It was
to get rid of the crazy pastors, to save the
women and children of Iran. That's what the conflict is
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actually about. But now they've transmographied it into being all
about opening up the straits of her Moves. But that's
a symptom. That's not the actual cause of the illness
of the antagonism between the two sides. That's a symptom
of it. So you know, how would Iran react? They
are the so called homo terrorism. They've had forty seven
years to prepare for this conflict. I would presume they
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have terror cells everywhere. Do you think that if this
happens today at midday and bridges get taken out and
power plants get taken out and Iranian civilians get wiped out,
do you think if Ron's just going to sit there
and say I told you so, or do you think
it could cause a new age of terrorism?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
If I've learned one thing from all those sort of
CIA Navy Seal type programs, I like to watch with
the messic manager.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
That that era of terrorism is ongoing and certainly.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Indiscriminately blowing things up across the region of the Middle
East definitely doesn't.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
Help you talk.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Right, So we all breathe out again because we've got
two weeks. Always two weeks with Trump. See what happens.
He'll take about two weeks. He's Heather's reaction.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Now.
Speaker 8 (05:16):
I see some are arguing that this has yet another
Trump chickening out situation. But it isn't because he got
what he wanted, didn't he. Only if he chickens out
and doesn't get something, then absolutely accuse him of it.
But if he gets what he wants, then the thing worked.
And what is it that he's had to give up
to get what he wants. Nothing. The only thing he's
had to give up is his plans to attack, which
may may not have been bluster anyway, because it's Donald Trump. Iran,
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though had been refusing to go to Pakistan for peace talks.
It would not agree to anything other than a permanent
end to the fighting, wouldn't accept a temporary cease fire.
It was holding the straight to ransom. It has now
today had to give up on all three positions. Now
that does not mean that this is an outright victory
for Trump, because go and look at Iran's ten demands.
There is no way the US is going to agree
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to that stuff. Pulling its military out of the Middle
East is not going to happen. It has bases all
over the show khu Wait, the UAE, Guitar or Bahrain,
nor Ark, Saudi Arabia, Jordan. It's hard to see the
world agreeing to Iran's plan to continue tolling oil ships
to the tune of two million bucks a pop. So
what that means is that this is far from over
for Donald Trump. He can't accept these terms, he will
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be leaving Iran in a stronger state at the end
of this bombing campaign that when he started six six
weeks ago, if they are able to set up a
shipping toll booth and make coin as much as they like.
In fact, he can't claim any real victory if you
think about it. If he walks away with the Revolutionary
Guard still in charge of the place, still able to
create all of the chaos that it has for decades. Today,
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he can probably claim that he won the battle. That
would be fair, especially if the oil that's been held
up for weeks does start flowing through the strait in
the next fourteen days. But claiming that he won the
war not even close yet.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I'm not confused.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So either started saying that he won something and then
finished by saying he didn't want anything.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
It was never originally about oil.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
If you recall, let me just remind you what those
four objectives were. The four key objectives, it's quite clear
for Operation Epic Theory obliterating around ballistic missile arsenal and
its production capabilities, annihilating its navy, severing its support for
terrorist proxies, and ensuring they never acquire a nuclear weapon.
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Now that last one, I don't know how you can
ever guarantee that, because you know, who knows what can
happen in the future, and so I would have given
him a pass on that. The navy thing, I mean,
obviously they line up a lot of boats, but I
mean that they've still got oats.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And then the other two things, I mean, the missiles
keep flying. And as for.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
The supporting terrorist proxies, well we hadn't you recommends that's.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Been weakened or strengthened through all this.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
See none of those, none of those objectives had anything
to do with oil, or did they. Maybe Tim, who's
standing in for Marcus this week, maybe he saw something
in this that I'm not getting.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Here. We are now at a place where the president is,
you know, mocking Islam on Easter Sunday, is using the
F word and is threatening genocide. So you know, it's
been it's been quite a fall. And yet here we
are as well that now at the end of today
there is that oh thank god. The other thing that
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might be leading to that sigh of relief is also
that as of right now, we've got sixty two points
six days of petrol fifty one point seven of diesel
fifty three point five of jet fuel, so this is
up slightly. And in fact, I think the most surprising
story that I read about fuel is that we are, apparently,
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in terms of apply back to where we were before
this crisis began.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, I'm not quite sure exactly how long it will
take for that to trickle down to the fuel price,
and presumably that will just almost immediately return to where
it was before it all began, and this will be
what I've come to call a two tank fill.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Conflict.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I'm just going to hang on in there and not
fill up until the price starts coming down again.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
News talk Z it been now.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I think Matt and Tyler were trying to talk about
this because, I mean, it really was the big story yesterday,
wasn't it. But one of their callers, Mike, had something
else to remind them about, and.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
It's is it a weapon of mass destruction story?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Is it corruption?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Using your on ear privilege?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
You be the jode.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
I just want to check before we move on with
the topic. Are your guys fingers all intecked after a
lunatic dropped off double happy explosives?
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Christmas Studio, you're a great new Zealander. Mike, thank you
so much for that. The problem with those is that
they're so precious to me that I need I need
an opportunity when it's worth letting them off, you know
what I mean, because they're a piece of history. So
now they currently sit in my lounge, prize pride of
place in the tin.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
And they're probably going to be hand me downs and
I and.
Speaker 9 (10:40):
Mike thank you so much. So when people come around
to my house, I go, come, come, come, come with me.
When my gen Ex buddies come around and come look
at this, and I opened a little tin and show
them and they they just they almost jump up jump
for joy seeing the mic.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
So thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
Oh that reminds me of that of pulp fiction.
Speaker 9 (11:01):
Yea, the light reflects of their faces so great. Thank
you so much for those.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
No, that's right, that's writ down that. No, no, my pleasure.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Are we supposed to be going around just accepting gifts
from listeners like that, especially when they're weapons a weapons cache? Anyway,
I do like the the mental image that Matt created
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there of that sort of golden glow because he shows
people that.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
How old are they? Those firecrackers?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
It's one thing I know about old firecrackers is that
you've got to be extraordinarily dearful if you do decide
to set them well, because.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
The dryer.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
And older they are, the faster of that work burns down.
Oh boy. Anyway, talk about ending with a bang or
a double bang.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I'll see you back here again tomorrow when the fireworks
will start all over again.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
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