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April 23, 2026 12 mins

FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB)Labour. Not India/Street Freaks/A Generation of Investors/Take My Boat... Please/AI Apocalypse Update

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glenn Heart. We're looking
back at Thursday. We need to talk about the move
on orders and whether they're working. And I think that
we'll find all that out. I'm sure giving kids money
to invest because Marcus and that's a good idea. Duncan

(00:47):
lost as ute and it made Matt and Tyler one day.
Where do all the stolen vehicles end up? And then
what is mythos and why is it a sign that
there were robot apocalypse might be happening as we speak.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Before any of that? So I get trouble working in
this job.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Man. You get sick of some stories. So sick of
hearing about the Indian FDA, aren't you?

Speaker 4 (01:17):
If Labour said no and stop that free trade agreement,
they would be accused of blocking New Zealand businesses like
the apple growers from making money that is basically there
for the taking. I think labor just dragged this out
for politics. I mean saying yes straight out would have
been acknowledging that they like what Todd maclay a National
have done. Dragging it out looking like they're agonizing over

(01:38):
the decision, pretending that they've improved it by getting National
to hire fourteen more inspectors to focus on migrant worker
exploitation is just done to give the impression that the
deal really isn't as good as we all might think
it is, while still actually saying yes so that businesses
still get the benefits of this free trade deal, which,
let me remind you, is actually an incredible accomplishment when
you think about it. Remember when Chris Luxon said at

(02:01):
the twenty twenty three election that he wanted this thing
signed in his first term. He was po pod for dreaming, ambitious, Yes, no,
And yet Todd McLay, the Trade Minister who just keeps
on knocking it out of the park with the Golf
State's FTA and the United Arab Emirates FDA, knocked it
out of the park again, even more so than before,
because this is India, this is a massive market and

(02:22):
we just got in. And by the way, who do
you think was more painful for McLay to negotiate with
the Indians or labor.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Ah, no question on that one. Talk about a loaded
a loaded query there, So I really hope that's over now.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
News talk Z been right, move on.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Orders, people hassling people in the street. How are we going?
We sort of all that out yet.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
But when the inner city motels were open to the
homeless during COVID and communities were formed and made, it
created a whole new vibe, if you will, in the
city when you have nothing, a routine, a bunch of mates,
a place you know, can be everything. So once they arrived,

(03:18):
they stayed. And I have some sympathy for those who
are homeless for myriad reasons. But unacceptable behavior is unacceptable behavior.
When people are brawling, when they're being public nuisances, when
they're impinging on the right of other individuals to walk freely,
when they're using shop entrances as bathrooms that other people

(03:41):
then have to clean up. That is behavior that needs
to be curbed. And if move on orders help restore
order to the cities, If move on orders sharpen the
focus of social agencies to find permanent homes for those
without them, so much the better.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, it's it's easy to feel as that are generous,
harded and charitable towards homeless people, or you know, people
who are seemed to be hanging out on the street
right up to the point that you encounter one who's
seems super dodge. And I'm only saying that because it

(04:20):
happened to us last night. We were on our way
to a show me the domestic manager, and my daughter,
a couple of friends of ours, and there was just
one bloke and a hoodie with a backpack. But he
was really angry at his backpack for some reason, kept stopping,
stomping on it at one stage, stopped again, stood on it,

(04:44):
ripped a bit off it.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
He was really worked up.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
And I'm not one hundred percent sure that he was homeless,
but he just had that vibe speaking of vibes as
carry was just then. And at that point, you know,
I'm sort of getting between him and the other people
with me, much the same way that you sort of
get between your dog and a crazy looking dog when

(05:15):
you're out walking the.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Dog, just to try and be.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Some kind of buffer should it all go tips up.
I'm not quite sure what the point of that story was,
but thanks for listening.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Talk So David Seymour wants to give kids five hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
To put it on Chezy's or What's happening here?

Speaker 6 (05:38):
David Seymour says that every student in year eleven should
be given five hundred dollars to learn to invest ah
and they could pocket the earnings see on fifth form.
He wants to give them five hundred dollars and a

(05:59):
controlled investment account with a structured pathway into real investing.
I think Chezys could be on board with this. And
term one they choose a term deposit, and term two
I think they let rip on the sheer market or
on a managed fund. And term three they cut loose

(06:22):
with these inequities, and in term four they're old to
invest in assets from around the world. That way they
become aware of exchange rates. We had some nerds at
school that were playing the sheer market.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Well.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
They ended up running sort of top companies, But there
we go. That's something that they did and feel very
precocious at the time. His agenity returns could be placed
at a student's Kiwi saver.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Or a credit to a student.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
Loan, or given to them in cash cost thirty million bucks.
I'm sure they get private sponsorship couldn't they seem were acknowledged.
Some may be surprises ex supporting a policy giving teenagers money,
but he argued the benefits could be realized. I guess

(07:16):
it's a fairly salient lesson.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Wow. So that was the story that finally killed Marcus Lush.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I think all of us here as if there'll be
one that gets us eventually and that you know, we'll
just go out because we just.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Can't take it anymore. And that was that was that one.
How important it is to.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Get our kids to realize the consequences of capitalism at
the earliest.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Day possible possible.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Now some of them are just going out there and
stealing stuff, of course, and Duncan had a you stolen
and it made Matt and Tyler asked this.

Speaker 6 (08:12):
The police say, say where they what?

Speaker 7 (08:15):
Where the market is? So because they're going to have
to get they're going to.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
Have to get new number plates, they're going to have
to change, you know, the engine numbers.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
There's quite a lot to.

Speaker 7 (08:25):
Do, right, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (08:27):
I don't know whether it's the one a sixty seconds
thing where they're sticking in the container it's off for Australia,
or whether they literally literally chop it up into little parts.
I don't know, but yeah, you know it was. It
was pretty amazing they caught there. There was four offenders
and they knew who one of them was and got
him the face and yeah, he went through the court
system and got to slip on the wrist of it.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeahs to be the case, ye and.

Speaker 8 (08:52):
Yeah, but that's sort of you know obviously, you know,
leaving the keys in the cars, probably assisting they're to
stop to get a car stole them. But you know,
you make mistakes saying interesting they.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Left the boat dunkin like I can probably it maybe
understand that.

Speaker 7 (09:06):
After so went after the boat.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
Boats a whole other issue. A deal.

Speaker 8 (09:09):
You can chop up a boat, yeah, yeah, yeah, to
be fear, that boat would have been pretty hard to hide.
But the boat was locked on the beck of the
youth and the keys for the boat hitch in the ute,
and they found those keys and hitched the boat.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
It makes complete sense to me, as I've always said,
it's better to know somebody with a boat than to
own a boat. Feel the same way about swimming pools too,
And yeah, they would have gotten Nobody really wants a boat.
It's a lot of money hard work and maintenance. Just know,

(09:46):
somebody with a boat. If you want to go out
in the boat.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
News talk has it been.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Okay, quick AI apocalypse update for you. It's definitely on.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's happening. Mythos is the most stark evidence of it
at the moment.

Speaker 7 (10:07):
According to Right, it's basically a big AI powered cyber
hacking machine. It can spot flaws and operating systems, stuff
that we use, email accountci al sorts of stuff. Once
it spots the floors, it could open the back door
for bad people to get in. That's what hacking's about.
In some tests, it is better at doing this than
human hackers. Okay, worrying. Central banks are worried, Retail banks

(10:31):
are worried. Governments are worried, and we should be too.
Even Anthropic, which owns it, is worried. They haven't released
it to the public for this reason and the wrong hands.
It's that dangerous. But what they did do was release
it to a small little group of companies, including Google,
including Goldman Sacks for testing. Now the problem is Bloomberg
is reporting a small number of unauthorized users have gained

(10:55):
access to it. I know, like ding ding ding ding
Alarm bell time. Hello. You had one job keep this
thing under wraps. If it's as good as they say
it is, then it's bad for the world. It could
mean more of what they call aymetrical warfare. That's where
smaller players with fewer resources than the big powers are
able to wage war and hold the world to ransom.

(11:18):
Think the Revolution regard their speedboats in the Strait of
hor moves right now. In the wrong hands, this thing
could do the same in cyberspace. Hack into hospitals, water supplies, energy, infrastructure,
all that important stuff that you know keeps society from
falling apart. Quite important. What happens to the world when
you only need a speedboat, a few drones, and you

(11:38):
know AI hacking app on your phone to bring the
world to its knees. It sounds overly dramatic, doesn't it,
And that's because well it is. And like most things
on the Internet, once the horse is out of the stables,
she tends to bolt and run and no one can
ever really catch.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Up, especially if it's a robot horse. I don't think
I've seen a robot horse, but you know, we've all
seen the robot dogs. We can only imagine how terrifying
as something as large as a robot horse would be.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
I shuddered to think. Yeah, so yeah, it's all over.
We are now just completely at the hands of our
robot overlords. Do they have hands? Robot overlords?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
They've probably got something more efficient than hands, haven't they.
I'll be working on that as we speak. So anyway,
it was nice. It was nice having free reign over
the world for a while. Good luck robots with it.
I'm sure you can't do any worse that we do
it and we'll see you back here again on Tuesday
at the Robots leaders.

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