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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday,
first of yesterday's news. I'm Glen Hart and we are
looking back at Wednesday. So after Winston decided to chime
in about the National Party leadership, the Nationals slashed out
at him.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Who can we talk to about this? How about National
Party leader in waiting Chris Buship. That's just me stirring
the pot.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
There the Fonterra payout from selling off there four things
that they don't want to make anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
How's that band spent? We talked to a dairy farmer?
And when I say where you met.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
In Tyler and HBO Max is coming before any of that? Yes,
the National Party leadership, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
When will the agony end?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
When all the ministers line up behind their man, No
voters going to topple him. The backbenchers just fall into line.
It's what they do, It's what they've always done. The
group calling for a coup starts to look a bit shambolic,
like a bunch of disgruntled employees, Andrew Baileys and your
Tim vander Molins. That's what has been reported. The only
real threat to Luxon is if Poland gets so bad
(01:40):
his cabinet comes under threat. You need a trend to
prove that, not one pole, as we talked about on Monday,
If a trend emerges where the left block can govern
his toast and he'd probably fall on his sword at
that point. Anyway, if you're leading a party that doesn't
get back into government, what's the point. I had loads
of text yesterday from people on the right raving about
(02:01):
Luckson finally standing up for himself and doing something anything
to look decisive. So he performed to the basis today.
But you need more than the base to win an
election and former government, of course. And from here the
next move is crucial. You need to flood the market
with some bold economic initiatives and some policy ideas. He
wants to talk about the economy, get out there and
(02:22):
do it. Do the big stuff, do the hard stuff,
make the case for why Luxon officially has everyone's attention.
How he uses it will determine how long he keeps his.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Job on the mic Husking Breakfast We've talked at length
about how useless poles are these days. I don't even
know if a string of bad poles constitutes grounds for.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Swapping out the leaders these days. Anyway, news talk has
it been.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I think Kerry Wodam wasn't very impressed with the so
called kill attempt, or whatever the hell it was.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
If you're one of those who jumps on board a coup,
who decides that they will put their money on a
different horse, they're basically lazy because being a backbencher is
(03:24):
hard work. There's nothing glamorous about it. It is boring,
it is thankless. There are no baubles of office, no
perks of the job. It is a hard grind. At
least when you get to minister level, you get the car,
and you get more money, and you get people who
kind of respect you, and you get to make a difference.
(03:47):
You get to make change, you know, through the hard
work of drafting policy and working with bureaucrats and working
with other members of Parliament. But you can actually get
things done as a backbench you can't. It's really really boring.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
So what.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
People who jump ship do as look to leapfrog over
other backbenches because they get rewarded if they cozy up
to somebody who's mounting a challenge, they can expect to
get rewarded with a plumb job and not have to
do the hard graft. So they're lazy as well as feckless.
(04:32):
There are so many people who have benefited from this
descent Labor New Zealand first, although yesterday with his confidence called,
I'd argue Christopher Lunxen did get some benefit from that.
Anybody who is unhappy with the leadership, Anybody who is
not willing to do the hard graft on the backbenches
(04:55):
and get the good jobs through sheer talent and hard work.
Anybody who is willing to sacrifice the good of the
party for personal ambition. Anybody who's willing to tell fibbs
should resign, put up, or shut up and shove off.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Of course, the tricky thing about that is if they
were to, doesn't that weaken nationals chances in the poles
and in the election anyway. It's quite a a dodgy
(05:36):
pot of soup they put on to boil here, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I know it's not an expression of it. There were
just words that bide into my brain for no reason
you talk side anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
The chief stirr, well, the chief stirr of the Natural
Party appears to be Chris Bishop. But that wasn't what
Heather was talking about yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Because there's been another stirr.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Of course, the classic og stirr was to Peter's boys,
e being stirring the pot.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Now up with a sudden attack on New Zealand first
this morning from your leadership. Is that something that they
agreed to do in caucus yesterday to try to lift
the polling.
Speaker 8 (06:16):
I don't know if there's been a tax on New Zealand. First,
I haven't.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Really seen it about.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
Nicola was on with Mike this morning and she said, oh,
I remember you went with Jacinda. And then Luxem was
on with Jamie on the country and he said, oh
I remember when he went with Jasinda.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
Oh, I've been giving an infrastructure speech. I've seen a
bit of reporting out of that.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
News stories you miss when you want to bush Well.
Speaker 8 (06:38):
I was just going to say that those are statements
of fact. I mean that Winston Peters.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Haven't seen this stuff before. Okay, So why has this
all of a sudden happened. Is there something you guys
agreed in caucus yesterday that you need to go hard
on these guys and get your vote back from New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
First.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
Well, as you know, we don't talk about what happens
in caucus, but it would be fair to say that
as we approach the election, we're keen to make sure
people are aware of the contrast between the parties. And
you know, we're ultimately everyone's out there fighting for the
same number of votes, and we want to make sure
we lift National's party vote. And I think you'll you know,
you're going to see parties as we get closer to
(07:12):
the election, differentiating themselves and making clear the differences between
the parties.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
Do you think Winston would seriously go with Labor after
this election.
Speaker 8 (07:23):
What he has before? And you know it's two and
two so far, ninety six and obviously after twenty twenty
three went with National, but five and twenty seventeen he
went with Labor Party. So it's just a statement of
fact that New Zealand first sits in the middle of
the political spectrum and can go either way.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
Know that history, we all know the history Bush, But
do you think he will go with Labor after the
next election?
Speaker 8 (07:46):
Well, history is a guide to, you know, potentially what
happens in the future.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
We've had a bit of Chris Bushop not really answering
direct questions properly.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Only now.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I'm starting to see why.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
People didn't really get behind.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Him, apart from effeckless five as Herey would have called them.
So exciting time to be a dairy farmer. It's it's
been hard yaka for a few years, but it seems
to be turning around. And now you've had this big
pay out. If you're a fonterer.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
What do they call them, a supplier member whatever you are? Anyway,
where's all that money going?
Speaker 9 (08:28):
So well deserved for you?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Mate?
Speaker 9 (08:30):
But you you're going to give some of the funds
to your boy, is that right?
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Yeah? Yeah, he's yeah, give him some funds to clear
off of you. And he did, and that goes straight
to the idea. I believe they he sends it in.
Otherwise they take it off of money every week.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
Or you sound like a good dad, Rob, And how's
how's business going for you at the moment?
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Oh good, Yeah, that's been great. And I've actually yeah,
I've actually stold the farm. I have I just have
the shield of fun from keeps right, what's a good
thing to do?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah? Absolutely, it was.
Speaker 9 (09:06):
How long ago did you sell the farm?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Six years ago?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Right? And why did you sell?
Speaker 6 (09:13):
I've done quite a few years. I've had a naughty
nose person got over it, and yeah, have been fantastic
for us to be selling out.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You know.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
Absolutely, your boy didn't want to take on the farm.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
No, no, no, he saw how he saw how depressed
and hard work my wife and I were, you.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Know, get my heart, get out of it, get out
out of affairs. See how hard somebody else is working,
and that it's not for me. One of my kids
is a bit like that, keep saying I could I
(09:55):
couldn't work in her in an office all day every day,
And I say, what you mean, like a job?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
News talk se it's been let's.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Finish up with the news that HBO Max, which of
course was formerly known as just Max, before that was
known as HBO Max the first time, I think, and
then before that was just known as HBO.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Is that how that go?
Speaker 10 (10:29):
HBO Max will be in New Zealand from June to sixteenth.
I've got no idea what HBO Max is. If anyone
can tell me. Filming in about that. I don't know
about that. I'm too confused with screening platforms. I guess
(10:50):
it was wish it was all in one. I don't
love them. I don't love the confusion of screening streaming platforms.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, I mean that is the holy grail, isn't it.
If it could just be combined into one thing. Can
you just play one subscription. I'm a bit worried because
I watch quite a bit of HBO content and at
the moment, of course, you get that on Sky or
Neon and or and I just leach off my father
(11:27):
in law's Sky's to description and use the sky Go
app to watch that stuff. That's not gonna work for
me anymore. Apparently that's all this so, you know, stuff
like what's on HBO, all the you know, Yellowstone Marshals,
(11:54):
all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
For a staff.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Anyway, you've got to just go with the fly, don't you.
You've got to move with the times, Move with the times, Marcus. Luckily,
the stream isn't going anywhere. It's here and it'll be
here again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Hee. Then News Talking Talking said Beam For more from
News Talk, said b listen live on air or online
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio,
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said, be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday,
first of yesterday's news. I'm Glen Hart and we are
looking back at Wednesday. So after Winston decided to chime
in about the National Party leadership, the Nationals slashed out
at him.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Who can we talk to about this? How about National
Party leader in waiting Chris Buship. That's just me stirring
the pot.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
There the Fonterra payout from selling off there four things
that they don't want to make anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
How's that band spent? We talked to a dairy farmer?
And when I say where you met.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
In Tyler and HBO Max is coming before any of that? Yes,
the National Party leadership, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
When will the agony end?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
When all the ministers line up behind their man, No
voters going to topple him. The backbenchers just fall into line.
It's what they do, It's what they've always done. The
group calling for a coup starts to look a bit shambolic,
like a bunch of disgruntled employees, Andrew Baileys and your
Tim vander Molins. That's what has been reported. The only
real threat to Luxon is if Poland gets so bad
(01:40):
his cabinet comes under threat. You need a trend to
prove that, not one pole, as we talked about on Monday,
If a trend emerges where the left block can govern
his toast and he'd probably fall on his sword at
that point. Anyway, if you're leading a party that doesn't
get back into government, what's the point. I had loads
of text yesterday from people on the right raving about
(02:01):
Luckson finally standing up for himself and doing something anything
to look decisive. So he performed to the basis today.
But you need more than the base to win an
election and former government, of course. And from here the
next move is crucial. You need to flood the market
with some bold economic initiatives and some policy ideas. He
wants to talk about the economy, get out there and
(02:22):
do it. Do the big stuff, do the hard stuff,
make the case for why Luxon officially has everyone's attention.
How he uses it will determine how long he keeps his.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Job on the mic Husking Breakfast We've talked at length
about how useless poles are these days. I don't even
know if a string of bad poles constitutes grounds for.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Swapping out the leaders these days. Anyway, news talk has
it been.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I think Kerry Wodam wasn't very impressed with the so
called kill attempt, or whatever the hell it was.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
If you're one of those who jumps on board a coup,
who decides that they will put their money on a
different horse, they're basically lazy because being a backbencher is
(03:24):
hard work. There's nothing glamorous about it. It is boring,
it is thankless. There are no baubles of office, no
perks of the job. It is a hard grind. At
least when you get to minister level, you get the car,
and you get more money, and you get people who
kind of respect you, and you get to make a difference.
(03:47):
You get to make change, you know, through the hard
work of drafting policy and working with bureaucrats and working
with other members of Parliament. But you can actually get
things done as a backbench you can't. It's really really boring.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
So what.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
People who jump ship do as look to leapfrog over
other backbenches because they get rewarded if they cozy up
to somebody who's mounting a challenge, they can expect to
get rewarded with a plumb job and not have to
do the hard graft. So they're lazy as well as feckless.
(04:32):
There are so many people who have benefited from this
descent Labor New Zealand first, although yesterday with his confidence called,
I'd argue Christopher Lunxen did get some benefit from that.
Anybody who is unhappy with the leadership, Anybody who is
not willing to do the hard graft on the backbenches
(04:55):
and get the good jobs through sheer talent and hard work.
Anybody who is willing to sacrifice the good of the
party for personal ambition. Anybody who's willing to tell fibbs
should resign, put up, or shut up and shove off.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Of course, the tricky thing about that is if they
were to, doesn't that weaken nationals chances in the poles
and in the election anyway. It's quite a a dodgy
(05:36):
pot of soup they put on to boil here, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I know it's not an expression of it. There were
just words that bide into my brain for no reason
you talk side anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
The chief stirr, well, the chief stirr of the Natural
Party appears to be Chris Bishop. But that wasn't what
Heather was talking about yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Because there's been another stirr.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Of course, the classic og stirr was to Peter's boys,
e being stirring the pot.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Now up with a sudden attack on New Zealand first
this morning from your leadership. Is that something that they
agreed to do in caucus yesterday to try to lift
the polling.
Speaker 8 (06:16):
I don't know if there's been a tax on New Zealand. First,
I haven't.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Really seen it about.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
Nicola was on with Mike this morning and she said, oh,
I remember you went with Jacinda. And then Luxem was
on with Jamie on the country and he said, oh
I remember when he went with Jasinda.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
Oh, I've been giving an infrastructure speech. I've seen a
bit of reporting out of that.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
News stories you miss when you want to bush Well.
Speaker 8 (06:38):
I was just going to say that those are statements
of fact. I mean that Winston Peters.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Haven't seen this stuff before. Okay, So why has this
all of a sudden happened. Is there something you guys
agreed in caucus yesterday that you need to go hard
on these guys and get your vote back from New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
First.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
Well, as you know, we don't talk about what happens
in caucus, but it would be fair to say that
as we approach the election, we're keen to make sure
people are aware of the contrast between the parties. And
you know, we're ultimately everyone's out there fighting for the
same number of votes, and we want to make sure
we lift National's party vote. And I think you'll you know,
you're going to see parties as we get closer to
(07:12):
the election, differentiating themselves and making clear the differences between
the parties.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
Do you think Winston would seriously go with Labor after
this election.
Speaker 8 (07:23):
What he has before? And you know it's two and
two so far, ninety six and obviously after twenty twenty
three went with National, but five and twenty seventeen he
went with Labor Party. So it's just a statement of
fact that New Zealand first sits in the middle of
the political spectrum and can go either way.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
Know that history, we all know the history Bush, But
do you think he will go with Labor after the
next election?
Speaker 8 (07:46):
Well, history is a guide to, you know, potentially what
happens in the future.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
We've had a bit of Chris Bushop not really answering
direct questions properly.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Only now.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I'm starting to see why.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
People didn't really get behind.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Him, apart from effeckless five as Herey would have called them.
So exciting time to be a dairy farmer. It's it's
been hard yaka for a few years, but it seems
to be turning around. And now you've had this big
pay out. If you're a fonterer.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
What do they call them, a supplier member whatever you are? Anyway,
where's all that money going?
Speaker 9 (08:28):
So well deserved for you?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Mate?
Speaker 9 (08:30):
But you you're going to give some of the funds
to your boy, is that right?
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Yeah? Yeah, he's yeah, give him some funds to clear
off of you. And he did, and that goes straight
to the idea. I believe they he sends it in.
Otherwise they take it off of money every week.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
Or you sound like a good dad, Rob, And how's
how's business going for you at the moment?
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Oh good, Yeah, that's been great. And I've actually yeah,
I've actually stold the farm. I have I just have
the shield of fun from keeps right, what's a good
thing to do?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah? Absolutely, it was.
Speaker 9 (09:06):
How long ago did you sell the farm?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Six years ago?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Right? And why did you sell?
Speaker 6 (09:13):
I've done quite a few years. I've had a naughty
nose person got over it, and yeah, have been fantastic
for us to be selling out.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You know.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
Absolutely, your boy didn't want to take on the farm.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
No, no, no, he saw how he saw how depressed
and hard work my wife and I were, you.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Know, get my heart, get out of it, get out
out of affairs. See how hard somebody else is working,
and that it's not for me. One of my kids
is a bit like that, keep saying I could I
(09:55):
couldn't work in her in an office all day every day,
And I say, what you mean, like a job?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
News talk se it's been let's.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Finish up with the news that HBO Max, which of
course was formerly known as just Max, before that was
known as HBO Max the first time, I think, and
then before that was just known as HBO.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Is that how that go?
Speaker 10 (10:29):
HBO Max will be in New Zealand from June to sixteenth.
I've got no idea what HBO Max is. If anyone
can tell me. Filming in about that. I don't know
about that. I'm too confused with screening platforms. I guess
(10:50):
it was wish it was all in one. I don't
love them. I don't love the confusion of screening streaming platforms.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, I mean that is the holy grail, isn't it.
If it could just be combined into one thing. Can
you just play one subscription. I'm a bit worried because
I watch quite a bit of HBO content and at
the moment, of course, you get that on Sky or
Neon and or and I just leach off my father
(11:27):
in law's Sky's to description and use the sky Go
app to watch that stuff. That's not gonna work for
me anymore. Apparently that's all this so, you know, stuff
like what's on HBO, all the you know, Yellowstone Marshals,
(11:54):
all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
For a staff.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Anyway, you've got to just go with the fly, don't you.
You've got to move with the times, Move with the times, Marcus. Luckily,
the stream isn't going anywhere. It's here and it'll be
here again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Hee. Then News Talking Talking said Beam For more from
News Talk, said b listen live on air or online
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio,
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