April 27, 2026 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the long weekend on Newstalk ZB) No More ANZAC Days/New Stadium Passes the Ultimate Test/Can't We All Just Get Along/Fine Line Between Hard and Stupid/Sexy and She Knows It
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glean Hart and we're
looking back at Monday, Sunday Saturday, because it was a
long weekend. See one in zed Stadium, New Stadium in
christ Church. We'll talk to one of the designers. Would
you believe is bipartisanship going to be the key to
(00:47):
moving forward the selection? No, no, it isn't. Who's saying
that we'll find out shortly lux and boycotting breakfast good
good idea or bad idea? And Aloise if Dos is
an Australian comedian and on in our ongoing quest to
(01:07):
find a who can actually be funny in an interview.
But before any of that, Anzac Day the other day,
of course.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
And while I suppose some could argue that in a
way it didn't really matter that modern service people are
always allowed to march in modern services, no one was
sitting there with the law going. I'll hang on a second,
as only if you've served up until nineteen sixty six.
You know, some might argue that a law change was
simply symbolic. I would counter and say that, actually, some
(01:36):
symbolism is at the core of Anzac day. It matters
today for the nerds like me who spend a lot
of time following international news, I just feel like the
sacrifice of those past feels a tiny bit closer than
twenty twenty six. I'm of a generation that has grown
(01:58):
up in the world, the ANZACs thoughtful Here in New Zealand.
I've flourished with the myriad benefits of peace and security,
and honestly, it's very easy to take for granted when
you don't know anything else right. And I don't want
to be too doom and gloom about things this morning,
(02:18):
other than to say that clearly, the security and the
peace that much of the world, not all of the world,
but that much of the world has enjoyed for many decades,
it feels more brittle and more fragile than any other
time in my life. And that which they fought for,
that which they died for, should never be taken for granted.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
And I'm not popular for having this point of view,
but I know that it's a point of view that
a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Of people have.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I I'm not really into war at all, and we
shouldn't do them. And if everybody disagreed not to either
do them, we wouldn't need any more anzact.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Days news talk. Has it been right?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So our Backsta is a former wall be but there's
also a co designer of that flesh fancy pants stadium,
the christ it's got itself now.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
As a player who spent plenty of time trying to
beat the Crusaders, what's it been like helping them build
their new fortress.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Oh, it's been tough. When I suggested to the design
team to not put any hot water in the sheds
for the Crusaders, they kicked me off that part of
the design pretty quickly. But it's been fantastic. It's been
so fantastic to see the reaction of the past Crusader players.
We're having chat to White, Crockett, Cory Flynn, and they
were so emotional about this ground and what it's doing
for the city, what it's doing for the team, what
(03:45):
it's doing for the region, and so that's really special
to us as designers seeing that.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Can you take us through the major steps along the
path of Okay, we want to build a stadium.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
Ye to this, Yeah, well it's a long process. So
obviously started after the earthquake. And look, the first time
is trying to get just a venue for the team,
so that that was the Apollo Projects really temporary one,
and then it was working with the team, the community,
the council about what they wanted and what was really
exciting for us is they wanted a roof stadium and
(04:17):
so that doesn't happen a whole lot in this part
of the world. Obviously in New Zealand, but definitely not
in Australia, definitely not around around the rest of the world,
and so it was really exciting to be able to
do that. And then just like the teams, like the Crusaders,
really wanted to have that connection between the players and
the fans, and so working from there about saying, let's
make the best seating bowl design we can. Let's surround
(04:39):
the surround the players with a wall of people and sound,
have that colosseum effect while still having fantastic concourses and
everything else so that people don't have to cuy up
for anything, that people can can buy all the food
and buy all the drink they need, and council can
run it and the operators can run it easily.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Really ambitious. All that to have all those games in
one weekend, back to back, both Saturday and Sunday as
well for a completely new facility. Couldn't stop thinking about
the state of the toilets, like, just the state of
the toilets here in this building after a long weekend.
And as far as the waste paper ven in here goes,
(05:19):
why was there a container and hummus container in the
waste paper ben in the studio. I think I've got
off topic a bit. I was just saying I was
impressed that the stadium still seemed to be functioning after
five games of rugby. Can comes Sunday afternoon?
Speaker 4 (05:33):
You talk, Sidney, right?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So is New Zealand going to go the same way
as just about everywhere else in the world at the
moment and become more and more divided down political ideal
ideal ology? You know what I'm trying to say? Or
can we be a country where bipartisanship is actually a thing.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Here's Maurice Williamson, hey that in the Free Trade agree
agreement and the support from labor, I mean just just
quickly checking. Was that genuine bipartisanship.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Yes, I think so. I don't think between the two
major parties there's any real disagreement that foreign trade agreements
are really good for New Zealand. We will always gain
from getting our products into big markets and have been
having all the tariff barriers removed. There was always a
niggle around about a few bits what our investment would
(06:30):
have to be, and it turns out it doesn't have
to be. It's just an aspiration of what we will
try to do into India, a little bit about what
will happen with a whole lot of Indian students coming here.
But I think that's pretty well covered off. I don't
think one of the things that I really want to
get away straight away with you on by partisanship is
you would be just gobsmacked at the number of pieces
(06:50):
of legislation that pass through Parliament any one year that
were bipartisan. We agree on that year, that's done, year
voted on that. But yeah, agreed. It's only those sort
of showstoppers every now and then where there is a
big difference between the left and the right that get
to be brought to the public's attention, and I don't
think that agreement. So one of those we've national was
(07:11):
keen on the a free trade agreement with China that
Labor negotiated but has been just so beneficial. We would
have literally been completely off the map during COVID if
we hadn't had the free trade agreement with China.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
When he says literally off the map, I didn't realize
it was one of the there was something that could
be arranged. I don't mind it, actually don't. I don't
mind the idea of living in an invisible country. Get
your head down, don't get any trouble like Skull Island
(07:44):
in the King Kong Godzilla universe. Stop being so silly,
Glenn and move on to other political matters like Christopher
Luxen being too much of a Sicki Bubba to front
up with Toba every week.
Speaker 8 (08:02):
Of course, the media needs politicians too. Just look at
the headlines and attention Tova O'Brien's interactions the Prime Minister
have given breakfast. But beyond creating content and audience engagement,
there is a more substantial reason the media needs politicians,
and that is, of course, to hold them to account,
and for that you need access I don't mind Christopher
Luxon's fafts, his missteps and interviews. I actually think there's
(08:25):
something quite refreshing, refreshing about his lack of political intuition,
his ability at times to swat a question away without
answering it. He appears human. He should be more relaxed
about the gotcha moments and not get flustered trying to
get out of them. I know it's easier said than done,
you know, when you're on in the National spotlight. But
(08:48):
with his leadership confirmed, National needs to do something to
improve its polling and solidify their position leading the coalition
come election day. TV appearances are a longstanding and recurring weakness.
The Prime Minister hasn't appeared in TVNZ's Q and A
with Jack Thames since December twenty twenty four, so it's
understandable this is a step they've taken. But Judith Collins's
(09:11):
words about Jacinda Adurn canceling her weekly interview slot with
Newstoroks The Bes Mike Hosking in twenty twenty one keep
bringing in my years as a National leader. At the time,
she told a radio station, I think what you're seeing
is the absolute arrogance of this government. She went on
to question whether Adun didn't like hard questions. The point
is those hard questions are actually what you get paid for,
(09:32):
she said. You might be able to pack and choose
whose hard questions you answer, but be careful. It doesn't
look too much like you just can't handle the pressure anyway.
Only twenty eight more weeks until the election, there's little
chants it will be boring.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, it hard, isn't it. I guess like you can
understand somebody wanting to avoid stupid questions. But yes, if
that is proceived as just being avoiding hard questions, then
you do have an issue. Fine line, isn't it. I
mean it's easy for somebody like me, for example, you
know that all my questions are just going to be
stupid questions. So nobody's going to turn out for that, aren't.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
They news talks?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It been going to finish up yere meeting Eloise Iftas,
who describes herself as Australia's first attractive female comedian bold playing.
I'm just I think I've found other ones attractive. I
shouldn't have called them other ones, should I.
Speaker 9 (10:36):
Let's start with this Australia's first attractive comedian thing, because
what does it even what does it even mean to you?
Time Out gave you that title. It seems reductive, but
it also seems like you've gone out and reclaimed it.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Well.
Speaker 10 (10:50):
I actually called myself this first and it really upset people.
And I found that very fascinating, and because obviously I
was joking and being a bit cheeky by calling myself
Australia's first attractive comedian, but I found the response to
it from audiences and from other comedians very very fascinating.
(11:10):
And yeah, I made a whole show about it, and
my debut show is about that and about you know,
why do we have to put ourselves down as women
to be seen as attractive? Why is being a confident
woman that knows she's funny and attractive and smart? Why
is that so confronting to people? I don't do self
(11:31):
deprecating humor, so it's really Yeah, it's really fun and
to be like that on stage, to not put yourself
down on stay that it's important, especially for a woman.
Speaker 9 (11:42):
You know, it's a little it's a little cruel on
New Zealand's Melanie Bracewell, who was demonstrably attractive and Zealand.
Speaker 10 (11:49):
I never said New Zealand never, and I never said females.
Speaker 9 (11:52):
Well what about Magda from Kath and Kim, who is
demonstrably attractive to some people?
Speaker 10 (11:57):
Well no, but I never said female. I said australis
SUPs attractive to men compared to all of them, all
of them. Yeah, I am the first attractive because I
because I know that everybody else doesselfsbricating humor.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
She's sixty and she knows it. Okay, I'm going to
put her and the very small underpopulated column of comedians
who are funny in their.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
End of views.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Congratulations, Aloise f Dos You've done it, Thank you this.
There aren't that many. And I'm going to tell you
I am. Maybe I just haven't walked into humor. That's
probably what it is. And I'll be back with that
walks into humor tomorrow on Wednesday. It might feel like
a Tuesday, but well we'll be looking back at a
Tuesday on Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
See you then?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Would you keep up this?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Use Talking Talks it Bean for more from News Talk
said B.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk sied be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glean Hart and we're
looking back at Monday, Sunday Saturday, because it was a
long weekend. See one in zed Stadium, New Stadium in
christ Church. We'll talk to one of the designers. Would
you believe is bipartisanship going to be the key to
(00:47):
moving forward the selection? No, no, it isn't. Who's saying
that we'll find out shortly lux and boycotting breakfast good
good idea or bad idea? And Aloise if Dos is
an Australian comedian and on in our ongoing quest to
(01:07):
find a who can actually be funny in an interview.
But before any of that, Anzac Day the other day,
of course.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
And while I suppose some could argue that in a
way it didn't really matter that modern service people are
always allowed to march in modern services, no one was
sitting there with the law going. I'll hang on a second,
as only if you've served up until nineteen sixty six.
You know, some might argue that a law change was
simply symbolic. I would counter and say that, actually, some
(01:36):
symbolism is at the core of Anzac day. It matters
today for the nerds like me who spend a lot
of time following international news, I just feel like the
sacrifice of those past feels a tiny bit closer than
twenty twenty six. I'm of a generation that has grown
(01:58):
up in the world, the ANZACs thoughtful Here in New Zealand.
I've flourished with the myriad benefits of peace and security,
and honestly, it's very easy to take for granted when
you don't know anything else right. And I don't want
to be too doom and gloom about things this morning,
(02:18):
other than to say that clearly, the security and the
peace that much of the world, not all of the world,
but that much of the world has enjoyed for many decades,
it feels more brittle and more fragile than any other
time in my life. And that which they fought for,
that which they died for, should never be taken for granted.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
And I'm not popular for having this point of view,
but I know that it's a point of view that
a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Of people have.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I I'm not really into war at all, and we
shouldn't do them. And if everybody disagreed not to either
do them, we wouldn't need any more anzact.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Days news talk. Has it been right?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So our Backsta is a former wall be but there's
also a co designer of that flesh fancy pants stadium,
the christ it's got itself now.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
As a player who spent plenty of time trying to
beat the Crusaders, what's it been like helping them build
their new fortress.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Oh, it's been tough. When I suggested to the design
team to not put any hot water in the sheds
for the Crusaders, they kicked me off that part of
the design pretty quickly. But it's been fantastic. It's been
so fantastic to see the reaction of the past Crusader players.
We're having chat to White, Crockett, Cory Flynn, and they
were so emotional about this ground and what it's doing
for the city, what it's doing for the team, what
(03:45):
it's doing for the region, and so that's really special
to us as designers seeing that.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Can you take us through the major steps along the
path of Okay, we want to build a stadium.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
Ye to this, Yeah, well it's a long process. So
obviously started after the earthquake. And look, the first time
is trying to get just a venue for the team,
so that that was the Apollo Projects really temporary one,
and then it was working with the team, the community,
the council about what they wanted and what was really
exciting for us is they wanted a roof stadium and
(04:17):
so that doesn't happen a whole lot in this part
of the world. Obviously in New Zealand, but definitely not
in Australia, definitely not around around the rest of the world,
and so it was really exciting to be able to
do that. And then just like the teams, like the Crusaders,
really wanted to have that connection between the players and
the fans, and so working from there about saying, let's
make the best seating bowl design we can. Let's surround
(04:39):
the surround the players with a wall of people and sound,
have that colosseum effect while still having fantastic concourses and
everything else so that people don't have to cuy up
for anything, that people can can buy all the food
and buy all the drink they need, and council can
run it and the operators can run it easily.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Really ambitious. All that to have all those games in
one weekend, back to back, both Saturday and Sunday as
well for a completely new facility. Couldn't stop thinking about
the state of the toilets, like, just the state of
the toilets here in this building after a long weekend.
And as far as the waste paper ven in here goes,
(05:19):
why was there a container and hummus container in the
waste paper ben in the studio. I think I've got
off topic a bit. I was just saying I was
impressed that the stadium still seemed to be functioning after
five games of rugby. Can comes Sunday afternoon?
Speaker 4 (05:33):
You talk, Sidney, right?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So is New Zealand going to go the same way
as just about everywhere else in the world at the
moment and become more and more divided down political ideal
ideal ology? You know what I'm trying to say? Or
can we be a country where bipartisanship is actually a thing.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Here's Maurice Williamson, hey that in the Free Trade agree
agreement and the support from labor, I mean just just
quickly checking. Was that genuine bipartisanship.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Yes, I think so. I don't think between the two
major parties there's any real disagreement that foreign trade agreements
are really good for New Zealand. We will always gain
from getting our products into big markets and have been
having all the tariff barriers removed. There was always a
niggle around about a few bits what our investment would
(06:30):
have to be, and it turns out it doesn't have
to be. It's just an aspiration of what we will
try to do into India, a little bit about what
will happen with a whole lot of Indian students coming here.
But I think that's pretty well covered off. I don't
think one of the things that I really want to
get away straight away with you on by partisanship is
you would be just gobsmacked at the number of pieces
(06:50):
of legislation that pass through Parliament any one year that
were bipartisan. We agree on that year, that's done, year
voted on that. But yeah, agreed. It's only those sort
of showstoppers every now and then where there is a
big difference between the left and the right that get
to be brought to the public's attention, and I don't
think that agreement. So one of those we've national was
(07:11):
keen on the a free trade agreement with China that
Labor negotiated but has been just so beneficial. We would
have literally been completely off the map during COVID if
we hadn't had the free trade agreement with China.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
When he says literally off the map, I didn't realize
it was one of the there was something that could
be arranged. I don't mind it, actually don't. I don't
mind the idea of living in an invisible country. Get
your head down, don't get any trouble like Skull Island
(07:44):
in the King Kong Godzilla universe. Stop being so silly,
Glenn and move on to other political matters like Christopher
Luxen being too much of a Sicki Bubba to front
up with Toba every week.
Speaker 8 (08:02):
Of course, the media needs politicians too. Just look at
the headlines and attention Tova O'Brien's interactions the Prime Minister
have given breakfast. But beyond creating content and audience engagement,
there is a more substantial reason the media needs politicians,
and that is, of course, to hold them to account,
and for that you need access I don't mind Christopher
Luxon's fafts, his missteps and interviews. I actually think there's
(08:25):
something quite refreshing, refreshing about his lack of political intuition,
his ability at times to swat a question away without
answering it. He appears human. He should be more relaxed
about the gotcha moments and not get flustered trying to
get out of them. I know it's easier said than done,
you know, when you're on in the National spotlight. But
(08:48):
with his leadership confirmed, National needs to do something to
improve its polling and solidify their position leading the coalition
come election day. TV appearances are a longstanding and recurring weakness.
The Prime Minister hasn't appeared in TVNZ's Q and A
with Jack Thames since December twenty twenty four, so it's
understandable this is a step they've taken. But Judith Collins's
(09:11):
words about Jacinda Adurn canceling her weekly interview slot with
Newstoroks The Bes Mike Hosking in twenty twenty one keep
bringing in my years as a National leader. At the time,
she told a radio station, I think what you're seeing
is the absolute arrogance of this government. She went on
to question whether Adun didn't like hard questions. The point
is those hard questions are actually what you get paid for,
(09:32):
she said. You might be able to pack and choose
whose hard questions you answer, but be careful. It doesn't
look too much like you just can't handle the pressure anyway.
Only twenty eight more weeks until the election, there's little
chants it will be boring.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, it hard, isn't it. I guess like you can
understand somebody wanting to avoid stupid questions. But yes, if
that is proceived as just being avoiding hard questions, then
you do have an issue. Fine line, isn't it. I
mean it's easy for somebody like me, for example, you
know that all my questions are just going to be
stupid questions. So nobody's going to turn out for that, aren't.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
They news talks?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It been going to finish up yere meeting Eloise Iftas,
who describes herself as Australia's first attractive female comedian bold playing.
I'm just I think I've found other ones attractive. I
shouldn't have called them other ones, should I.
Speaker 9 (10:36):
Let's start with this Australia's first attractive comedian thing, because
what does it even what does it even mean to you?
Time Out gave you that title. It seems reductive, but
it also seems like you've gone out and reclaimed it.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Well.
Speaker 10 (10:50):
I actually called myself this first and it really upset people.
And I found that very fascinating, and because obviously I
was joking and being a bit cheeky by calling myself
Australia's first attractive comedian, but I found the response to
it from audiences and from other comedians very very fascinating.
(11:10):
And yeah, I made a whole show about it, and
my debut show is about that and about you know,
why do we have to put ourselves down as women
to be seen as attractive? Why is being a confident
woman that knows she's funny and attractive and smart? Why
is that so confronting to people? I don't do self
(11:31):
deprecating humor, so it's really Yeah, it's really fun and
to be like that on stage, to not put yourself
down on stay that it's important, especially for a woman.
Speaker 9 (11:42):
You know, it's a little it's a little cruel on
New Zealand's Melanie Bracewell, who was demonstrably attractive and Zealand.
Speaker 10 (11:49):
I never said New Zealand never, and I never said females.
Speaker 9 (11:52):
Well what about Magda from Kath and Kim, who is
demonstrably attractive to some people?
Speaker 10 (11:57):
Well no, but I never said female. I said australis
SUPs attractive to men compared to all of them, all
of them. Yeah, I am the first attractive because I
because I know that everybody else doesselfsbricating humor.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
She's sixty and she knows it. Okay, I'm going to
put her and the very small underpopulated column of comedians
who are funny in their.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
End of views.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Congratulations, Aloise f Dos You've done it, Thank you this.
There aren't that many. And I'm going to tell you
I am. Maybe I just haven't walked into humor. That's
probably what it is. And I'll be back with that
walks into humor tomorrow on Wednesday. It might feel like
a Tuesday, but well we'll be looking back at a
Tuesday on Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
See you then?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Would you keep up this?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Use Talking Talks it Bean for more from News Talk
said B.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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