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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we're
looking back at Wednesday. Calls for more cash to be
made available for some reason, a bit of an overhaul
on bike and e scooter rules. Howause I feel like
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I'm I'm caughting a time wark And then you get
to Marcus talking about ham radio but before any of
that fuel back in this century, in this decade. Data breaches, Yep,
they happen every day these days, don't they.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Last week I went shopping books myself some new clothes
because I've basically worn through them. So went out to
buy just a couple of T shirts and shorts, and
I was asked for my name and email address and
my postal address, not that I was sending the clothes
to myself. I walked out the shop with them in
a bag. Why because they want you on a mailing list.
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Probably I didn't have to provide this data, but if
I did, I would get ten percent off the clothes.
I paid the full price, but I couldn't leave with
a receipt unless I hand it over my email. Now
that annoys me, and they should be scared to ask
for it. Businesses want our information because they can sell
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us more stuff for share it with a third party, whatever,
But it should be either illegal to ask for it.
It should actually be illegal to ask for it unless
the law requires it. And if the data they do
have get stolen, that should be their problem under the law.
The fines ought to reflect how serious the breach is.
With health well, that ought to be millions. Surely they
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should be scared, like with health and safety laws, to
even ask for it. It's not this problem has suddenly
sailed into port. That's why the legislation should be fast tracked.
It should be bipartisan, and it should be tough as nails.
Otherwise we can all look forward to another data breach
coming to a town near you soon.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I think that privacy horse is well literally bolted, isn't
It isn't everything available to everybody all the time these days?
Like sometimes the harder you try, the more likely you
are to chuck it up.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
News talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Let's find out if Kurrie, what is quite as jaded
about the issue of protecting your data as I am.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
They realized that somebody had access who legitimately got into
the computer, you know, to all intents and purposes, the
computer thought, yep, that's fine, come on in, you're welcome.
Then once they started fiddling around, the computer recognized that
something was going on on that shouldn't be occurring and
shut itself down. So different circumstances, But how much owners
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should be on the companies to protect our data and
our information? Should the penalties be much more harsh? And
is there any way of staying offline? And I know
some people up north, fabulous family, and they are pretty
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much offline. They do not connect, they don't take the
doll they don't take sickness benefits. They want to live
their life free of interference. But it takes some effort
to do that. To stay offline, to stay as far
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away as possible from computers and from government takes a
great deal of effort that I think most of us
would not be able to And even then they're not
completely offline. It takes a huge amount of effort. So
how much of the onus should be on the companies
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to protect our information. There are millions of roddy hoes
out there, all wanting to show they're the cleverest thing
in the whole wide world. How much should be on
us to change our password and put in basic security
protocols and how can we stay or limit our presence online?
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Is there any way of having our cake and eating
it too, to have the convenience of an online world
without basically being laid bare and naked before the whole
wide world.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
No, Yeah, I was just saying I don't think there
really is. I'm just trying to think if people do
get very precious about their medical records, don't they Are
there medical conditions that people find embarrassing? I suppose anything
to do with sort of you have naughty bits and
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whether they're working or not working, or there's something wrong
with them. People don't like people to know that, do they.
But like you know, in some ways, like you know,
when you're break an arm or you've got an obvious
injury like that, you know you're in a cast or
a slang or a support of some kind, you've got
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to spend the whole time explaining to people what you did,
don't you. Yeah, and the last time something like that
happened to me is because I'd fallen over walking with
a dog, which is embarrassing. That is embarrassing. But if
people already knew that, because they got all the information online,
maybe I wouldn't have had to answer the questions quite
so much. I don't know. I'm pretty cynical about the privacy.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Are us talk?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
SI?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Right? So we've been talking technology and computers and all
of that stuff, But apparently some people out there still
use cash and still want to use cash. What the
hell is this all about?
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Reserve banks?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
His banks need to step up rolling out more ATMs
and service centers to protect people's access to cash. So
are you bothered by how scarce cash is starting to feel?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Guys?
Speaker 7 (06:29):
I don't want to pay dollars for a system I
never use. I prefer digital banking, going into the bank
as a pain as you Q for ages. Seems we're
doing this for old people who won't or don't know
how to use digital banks, cheers Craig. Or so young
people that want to buy marijuana by judging by the
text machine as well.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Yeah, we're getting a few of those tekes, mister Green.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
The want the want the cash. But things used to
be incredibly annoying people like there used to be a
point where for the weekend, everyone had to get out
of the cash. Actually, now I think about it, I
guess people that's what checkbooks for worth back in the day.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Right, yeah, that's right, the health checkbook.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
But there was a while where people would line up
in front of the ATMs to get all the cash
they were going to spend at pubs because pubs traditionally
didn't take checkbox or checks or you know, going into
a concert or wherever you're going, you can have a check.
So that everyone had to get out a lot of
money for the weekend, right yeah, yeah, So there's a
huge amount of convenience in the system now, Like I
don't would anyone want to go back to fully cash
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and checks.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Not for me.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
And I just say that as we sold something on
trade me and we had a bit of cash line
around and then decided to have a night out, took
that cash, had a few too many and what do
you think happened to that five hundred bucks gone? Because
it's we spent it as more fun is that because
it was sitting there burning a hole in my pocket?
I wasn't that careful with it, whereas when it's digital.
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I mean, maybe the argument goes both ways.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
I think it's the other way. I think if you
actually have to hand over folding cash and a physical
object to pay for something, then you feel it more
than just swiping a card. Yeah, money you've never seen.
It's just it's just some digits that you didn't know
in your bank account getting lower.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
I think I'm just useless with money.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Either way, interesting discussion. I suppose. Certainly the electronic money
is a lot harder for me to spend the next
if I if I actually have actual money, because to
somebody else, you can see me spending the electronic money
and she would not be happy if I blew five
hundred dollars of it at the pub. That's for damn sure. Right.
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So the rules around kids on bikes and scooters and
cycle ways and wow, I mean they're tidying it up. Okay,
but is this a big issue.
Speaker 8 (08:45):
I took my boy and his six and nine year
old cousins for a bike ride to the skatepark at
the Beach over summer. They rode on the footpath. Two
of those bikes were definitely against the rules way too big,
so you could probably if you want to characterize Chris
Bishop's propose new rules as just changing the law to
reflect what we're already doing. I have a question for you, though,
why have an age limit for kids at all? I mean,
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we're hardly going to stick to this rule. Are we
were hardly going to say to the twelve year old
the day that they turn thirteen that they now have
to get off the footpath and cycle on Ponsonby Road?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Are we?
Speaker 8 (09:16):
In fact, we regularly see older adults riding their bikes
on Ponsonby Road, pass on the footpaths past the cafes.
We just step out of the way. It's an adult
on an adult sized bike. Everybody just steps out of
the way, lets them through that because they're on the footpath,
they're courteous and surrounded by pedestrians, they go really slowly.
Here's my proposal. How about when we change the rules,
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we actually take the age limit out of it all together.
Don't have an age limit. Say to people, look, we
would prefer it if you would cycle on the road,
but if you can't do that safely, then you're welcome
to use the footpath if you have to go. If
you have to do that, please go slowly. Give pedestrians
the right of way because our preferences. No one dies
on the road, no one gets hurt on the footpath.
Maybe we could just pass a rule that reflects what
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we are probably going to end up doing and what
also reflects common sense.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I'm more than happy for kids to ride their bikes
backwards and forwards in front of my house on the footpath,
as long as they show the hell up. I was
screaming out there yesterday afternoon while I was trying to sleep,
and domestic manager said to me, well, you know that
was the middle of the day. They don't know that
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you're trying to sleep. And I felt like saying, well,
I just about went out there and made them painfully aware,
grumpy old man, get off my lawn style when I
was trying to sleep. Where's that clause in the.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Law news talk?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
ZI been right? I finished up booking Ham Radio. I
know most of you listening and going why would you
put Ham on your radio?
Speaker 9 (10:48):
After a while, the man in Alaska faded out and
most people would think, oh, it's just conditions. But my
dad had a mensa or IQ and he remembered that
the man had said, just a minute, Jim, I'm going
to put some cake on the fire. So he sat
there and he worked across the world to Alaska and
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got a man a ham in Alaska to go round
to the house and the man was unconscious on the floor.
So he saved his life and a movie was made
about it. And the the man that his life that
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he saved was the filmmaker for.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
The movie.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
That where they make movies MGM, a movie company. That's
the man that he saved his life. So they made
a movie about it. And then the other thing he
did was he was in Murchison and he thought, oh,
I wonder what would happen if there was no power?
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And something happened, and while he was there, there was
an earthquake and for a days he never went to bed.
He had made a do you know that so Os
and Morse code bars that people have, Well, he made
one that ran on bactories are there?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Ye?
Speaker 9 (12:25):
Oh, my boring is.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
The no no, no, I'm all here. I was forgetting
to wonder if Marcus was there as well, actually, because
that sort of was Marcus's section of the podcast. Well,
I mean, what can you say about that? Morse code
bars an interesting way of putting it. He was very
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nervous about being on the radio. That lady ironically talking
about being on the radio. It is a bit of
a worry when people were from Alaska. Fade out, that's
for sure. We'll leave that there. I think this podcast
is about to fade out. Don't worry. It's not anything serious.
It's just the end of it. Hopefully, hopefully you're receiving me.
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You're still receiving me over and you can receive me
again tomorrow. I'll see you then.
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