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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello May Little Beanies, and welcome to the Beand for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news, I'm Glen heartwanking Beck at Tuesday
and we need to talk about the Opportunities Party because
although they might want to do a deal with National,
National doesn't want to do a deal with them or something.
TikTok is earning money in New Zealand, which is good apparently,
(00:52):
especially if you're into capitalism, which Ryan wants to discuss.
And Marcus he's become sort of a consumer watchdog. I
think maybe he always has been. Yesterday it was it
was the spice wars between Gregg's and miss as Rogers.
Now it's a big box retail. The warehouse versus came
(01:14):
out as today's consumer match up. But before any of that,
our water infrastructure is useless.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
And even now you've got when we're joining into big
entities so that there's more clout when it comes to
borrowing and sharing and sharing and pooling of resources. Auckland's like, well,
if you haven't spent a cent Northland on your water,
Why on earth should we carry you? And other councils
(01:46):
are feeling much the same way. But anyone who's living
near more Point in Wellington right now would say spend
whatever it takes to get the pipes fixed. Ask anyone
and Havelock North who was affected by the Campella bacta
outbreak there this time ten years ago. Almost forty percent
(02:07):
of the town struck by gastro when sheep done contaminated
the town's water supply. There were four deaths, nine hundred
and fifty three notified cases. Upgrading our water system as
not a gosh that would be nice one day. Upgrading
our water was gosha would be nice one day twenty
(02:31):
years ago. It is so overdue. The money must be
spent now, and it's infrastructure that must be prioritized now.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
At the risk of embacking on an exercise in what about,
isn't at least you know it could be worse. We
could be in America where I think they're running out
of water completely on the left hand side of it,
(03:01):
Lake Mead and Lake Powell have dried up, the Colorado
Rivers dried up. I've asked that if a lake drives
up as it's still a lake, does it become a
canyon at that point? Grand canyons grander than ever because
the Colorado River's not really there, so it's going to
(03:23):
be the canyons deeper. You know, it doesn't sound like
you take these things seriously.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Then news talk zeth been.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So let's as we look forward to the election, I'm
not looking forward to it. I'm dreading it, but I'm
disorting to make many chronologically. Is the Opportunity's Party going
to play a part in it or not?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Remember National is a party that has simplified their stance
down to no spending and no taxes and benefit control.
So the universal benefit and land taxes are going to
give them the jips. And behind the scenes, Top has
some interesting stuff. They've got names like Ian Lee's Galloway,
remember him, Labor Prime Minister, Union guy. He is the
(04:05):
general manager. His business partner is Grace Chris Hipkins partner.
Their number three candidate is Kyler Kingdom Bed who was
one of the authors of the hyper Poor report that
the right hate so much. She, in turn has worked
with James Show, the ousted leader from the Green Party.
They work together at the Worldwide Fund for Nature. Many
speculate it's a left wing party in disguise, and I
(04:28):
don't disagree. So maybe Christopher Luxen was right to follow
his gut. But at the same time, this statement by
Christopher Luxon validates the chances of a party who frankly,
have never cracked the threshold and are only commanding attention
right now because they're new and they're not part of
the older elite, and they're trending upwards and people are
sick and tired of the old tried and true because
the old tried and true hasn't turned out to be
(04:50):
very true for them. But personally, I wouldn't give them
the time of day. They've got a long way to
go before they approve. Let me say this again, they've
got a long way to go before they prove they're
here for the long haul and that they really have
something to offer. So can't the farm.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I just don't understand where all this has come from,
this top talk. It seems to be bubbling away. I
feel like there's been more top talk since Gareth Morgan
started the thing a million years ago. I don't know
what that's about us talk so news yesterday about how
(05:31):
much TikTok is bringing to the economy like ours, specifically
in New Zealand. So we're not railing against social media
this week. We're for it because people are making money
out of it. Is that how it works?
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Their claims the platform contributed about one point two billion
to New Zealand's economy last year supported nearly nine thousand,
seven hundred jobs. Quite rightly. There's a lot of questions
been raised about the assumptions and the surveys conducted in
this particular report. But the question we've got for you,
is TikTok a net benefit overall for this country?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (06:09):
So, as I was saying before, only about four hundred
and thirty four million of the estimate represents direct spending
at businesses. The remainder comes from multiplier effects. So I
just think if they're willing to do that, then we
should be allowed to have whatever the opposite of multifier
dividing effects. So should we be able to divide that
one point two billion by perceived damage it does? Yeah,
(06:31):
and also question things. The claim that twenty to thirty
percent sail uplift is from is self reported responses from
seven hundred business decision makers. So it's self reported, So
if you're just going to do that, then I can
ask you tyler would self report? What do you think
about TikTok? Do you think it's been a net good
or bad for you?
Speaker 5 (06:52):
If I was a business or so, it's been amazing
for me, mate. The sales are up thirty percent, but no,
it's self reported. My general feeling is I think it's
a net bad for New Zealand. I don't use it.
I think overall, I think it's nonsense that they say
they've contributed one point two billion dollars to New Zealand's economy,
But then when you look at the overall damage it
does to attention span, to the way that children are operating,
to their learning. No, I don't think it's a net bitter.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Oh, there you go, so you're wrong. Social media is
bad after all, that's making its money both sucking the
light out of us like some kind of capitalist vampire
us setting. You see. That was my cool segue of
(07:36):
getting into this next bit, which is about capitalism. It
probably would have been cooler if I hadn't actually pointed
it out now that I think.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Of it, The socialist savior of New York City me
or Mam Damie. He's fixing hunger in the Big Apple,
of course, and given more detail today on his state
run supermarket idea, and it's actually hilarious. I have to
tell you it's never going to work. It's absurd, and
we can laugh because we're not paying for it. But
he stands there with a serious look on his face
holding bananas, saying these will be thirty percent cheaper once
(08:05):
he has his plans in place. It's going to cost
one hundred twenty million bucks. You'll get five supermarkets for that.
A limited list of products. Hasn't said exactly what they are. Obviously,
bananas has to be on the list, meat, staples, veggies,
and he says they will be thirty percent below quote
typical retail prices. He reckons it'll save an average shopper
(08:26):
at fifty bucks a week. Where they get these numbers from,
I don't quite know. A few problems. First, five stools
in New York for one hundred and twenty million dollars
ain't going to feed everyone, is it. Most stools operate efficiently.
This is in most of the rest of the world
that isn't communist or socialist. Most stols operate efficiently because
(08:47):
they're chasing a profit. That means that customers get what
they demand. It happens because there's a profit incentive happening.
Think about it. We complain about prices, but it is
a rare day when you actually run out of something
when you go to the supermarket looking for it. Happens
quite a lot in communist countries, it turns out. Plus,
if you open a supermarket tomorrow here with thirty percent
(09:09):
off staple items, I would go and buy that stuff
and resell it, wouldn't you. If I didn't do it,
somebody else would. That is called capitalism. And try as
Mandami might, he won't stop that train.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Amazing, isn't it? Talk about the stir top? It's made
in our election? Based on as far as I can tell, nothing,
ma'am Danni, he's really thrown the cat amongst the pigeons
in America?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Is he?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
He's like the Antichrist? But he's just everything I can tell,
And I've heard a few interviews with him and stuff.
He seems like quite a good guy who just wants
to help out, but looks a few potholes feed a
few hungry homeless people. I think he does want to
(10:02):
kick all the red people out in New York, so
it sucks to be them. But you know, I recan.
Anna wouldn't tour? Would you handle it?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
News talk? Has it been?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah? I don't think Anna Winkler will be shopping it
came that anytime soon. It sounds like Marcus does, or
it would not. You'd rather just drop at the warehouse.
What is this consumer watchdog thing that he seems to
be doing lately?
Speaker 8 (10:29):
Who's heard of the warehouse club? This is brand new
information to me. So now you know how you've got
the club from peck and save. Now there's now a
warehouse club.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I don't know if this is.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
The beginning of the end or the end of the beginning.
Club prices early excess, VIP perks and more masin been
a VIP at the warehouse, wouldn't that make you put
a spring in your step? So have anyone experienced that?
And how good is it? Because I know from our
audience they do like these sorts of things. It's what
(11:05):
you need another card, but it might be a card,
it might be something ut on that and just have
on your phone early excess. Do you think that means
it opens up at three in the morning, or it
means you get the chance to buy new products. Anyway,
it's called the Warehouse Club. Much discussion online about it.
(11:26):
Will I join it?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Why not? Early excess VIP perks Every year in our prediction,
someone always predicts that the Warehouse is going to close.
So I'm surprised there's still a spring in the step
of it. Now if you've experienced that. So it's a
loyalty program, I'll tell you something. But it's the choice
(11:50):
beween the Warehouse and Kmart. Much prefer the Warehouse. The
Kmart feels abandoned and we're just on a Saturday. There's
just piles of clothes, the pier sort of rummaged through
and dumped. I find Kmart's soul destroying warehouse.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
It's not so bad.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
Yeah, no, And I like the garden the center they've
got there. I think that brings some humanity to it.
So there we go. The Warehouse Club. That's a thing.
But I don't know how you get in touch with it.
People that you got to downloaded or something.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, they are both quite sol destroying. I don't know
what happened with the Warehouse. It's and is he talking
about the warehouse marketplace thing when you go online and
then you think you found just the right thing and
it turns out it's not at the warehouse at all.
It's at Noel Leavings that annoys me. He is right
(12:48):
about Kmart and all the packed over piles of stuff
that they do have a quite a good range of
cheap dog products though, you know, toys, leads, raincoats sort
of thing. So I'm torn. Don't make me choose, is
what I'm saying. Don't make me choose. I'll ponder that
(13:11):
and I'll have a preference for you tomorrow. Maybe probably won't.
I probably will have forgotten all about it, actually, but regardless,
I'll see it there.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Used Talking Talking zid Beam for more from us, Talk
said B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B.
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iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello May Little Beanies, and welcome to the Beand for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news, I'm Glen heartwanking Beck at Tuesday
and we need to talk about the Opportunities Party because
although they might want to do a deal with National,
National doesn't want to do a deal with them or something.
TikTok is earning money in New Zealand, which is good apparently,
(00:52):
especially if you're into capitalism, which Ryan wants to discuss.
And Marcus he's become sort of a consumer watchdog. I
think maybe he always has been. Yesterday it was it
was the spice wars between Gregg's and miss as Rogers.
Now it's a big box retail. The warehouse versus came
(01:14):
out as today's consumer match up. But before any of that,
our water infrastructure is useless.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
And even now you've got when we're joining into big
entities so that there's more clout when it comes to
borrowing and sharing and sharing and pooling of resources. Auckland's like, well,
if you haven't spent a cent Northland on your water,
Why on earth should we carry you? And other councils
(01:46):
are feeling much the same way. But anyone who's living
near more Point in Wellington right now would say spend
whatever it takes to get the pipes fixed. Ask anyone
and Havelock North who was affected by the Campella bacta
outbreak there this time ten years ago. Almost forty percent
(02:07):
of the town struck by gastro when sheep done contaminated
the town's water supply. There were four deaths, nine hundred
and fifty three notified cases. Upgrading our water system as
not a gosh that would be nice one day. Upgrading
our water was gosha would be nice one day twenty
(02:31):
years ago. It is so overdue. The money must be
spent now, and it's infrastructure that must be prioritized now.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
At the risk of embacking on an exercise in what about,
isn't at least you know it could be worse. We
could be in America where I think they're running out
of water completely on the left hand side of it,
(03:01):
Lake Mead and Lake Powell have dried up, the Colorado
Rivers dried up. I've asked that if a lake drives
up as it's still a lake, does it become a
canyon at that point? Grand canyons grander than ever because
the Colorado River's not really there, so it's going to
(03:23):
be the canyons deeper. You know, it doesn't sound like
you take these things seriously.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Then news talk zeth been.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So let's as we look forward to the election, I'm
not looking forward to it. I'm dreading it, but I'm
disorting to make many chronologically. Is the Opportunity's Party going
to play a part in it or not?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Remember National is a party that has simplified their stance
down to no spending and no taxes and benefit control.
So the universal benefit and land taxes are going to
give them the jips. And behind the scenes, Top has
some interesting stuff. They've got names like Ian Lee's Galloway,
remember him, Labor Prime Minister, Union guy. He is the
(04:05):
general manager. His business partner is Grace Chris Hipkins partner.
Their number three candidate is Kyler Kingdom Bed who was
one of the authors of the hyper Poor report that
the right hate so much. She, in turn has worked
with James Show, the ousted leader from the Green Party.
They work together at the Worldwide Fund for Nature. Many
speculate it's a left wing party in disguise, and I
(04:28):
don't disagree. So maybe Christopher Luxen was right to follow
his gut. But at the same time, this statement by
Christopher Luxon validates the chances of a party who frankly,
have never cracked the threshold and are only commanding attention
right now because they're new and they're not part of
the older elite, and they're trending upwards and people are
sick and tired of the old tried and true because
the old tried and true hasn't turned out to be
(04:50):
very true for them. But personally, I wouldn't give them
the time of day. They've got a long way to
go before they approve. Let me say this again, they've
got a long way to go before they prove they're
here for the long haul and that they really have
something to offer. So can't the farm.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I just don't understand where all this has come from,
this top talk. It seems to be bubbling away. I
feel like there's been more top talk since Gareth Morgan
started the thing a million years ago. I don't know
what that's about us talk so news yesterday about how
(05:31):
much TikTok is bringing to the economy like ours, specifically
in New Zealand. So we're not railing against social media
this week. We're for it because people are making money
out of it. Is that how it works?
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Their claims the platform contributed about one point two billion
to New Zealand's economy last year supported nearly nine thousand,
seven hundred jobs. Quite rightly. There's a lot of questions
been raised about the assumptions and the surveys conducted in
this particular report. But the question we've got for you,
is TikTok a net benefit overall for this country?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (06:09):
So, as I was saying before, only about four hundred
and thirty four million of the estimate represents direct spending
at businesses. The remainder comes from multiplier effects. So I
just think if they're willing to do that, then we
should be allowed to have whatever the opposite of multifier
dividing effects. So should we be able to divide that
one point two billion by perceived damage it does? Yeah,
(06:31):
and also question things. The claim that twenty to thirty
percent sail uplift is from is self reported responses from
seven hundred business decision makers. So it's self reported, So
if you're just going to do that, then I can
ask you tyler would self report? What do you think
about TikTok? Do you think it's been a net good
or bad for you?
Speaker 5 (06:52):
If I was a business or so, it's been amazing
for me, mate. The sales are up thirty percent, but no,
it's self reported. My general feeling is I think it's
a net bad for New Zealand. I don't use it.
I think overall, I think it's nonsense that they say
they've contributed one point two billion dollars to New Zealand's economy,
But then when you look at the overall damage it
does to attention span, to the way that children are operating,
to their learning. No, I don't think it's a net bitter.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Oh, there you go, so you're wrong. Social media is
bad after all, that's making its money both sucking the
light out of us like some kind of capitalist vampire
us setting. You see. That was my cool segue of
(07:36):
getting into this next bit, which is about capitalism. It
probably would have been cooler if I hadn't actually pointed
it out now that I think.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Of it, The socialist savior of New York City me
or Mam Damie. He's fixing hunger in the Big Apple,
of course, and given more detail today on his state
run supermarket idea, and it's actually hilarious. I have to
tell you it's never going to work. It's absurd, and
we can laugh because we're not paying for it. But
he stands there with a serious look on his face
holding bananas, saying these will be thirty percent cheaper once
(08:05):
he has his plans in place. It's going to cost
one hundred twenty million bucks. You'll get five supermarkets for that.
A limited list of products. Hasn't said exactly what they are. Obviously,
bananas has to be on the list, meat, staples, veggies,
and he says they will be thirty percent below quote
typical retail prices. He reckons it'll save an average shopper
(08:26):
at fifty bucks a week. Where they get these numbers from,
I don't quite know. A few problems. First, five stools
in New York for one hundred and twenty million dollars
ain't going to feed everyone, is it. Most stools operate efficiently.
This is in most of the rest of the world
that isn't communist or socialist. Most stols operate efficiently because
(08:47):
they're chasing a profit. That means that customers get what
they demand. It happens because there's a profit incentive happening.
Think about it. We complain about prices, but it is
a rare day when you actually run out of something
when you go to the supermarket looking for it. Happens
quite a lot in communist countries, it turns out. Plus,
if you open a supermarket tomorrow here with thirty percent
(09:09):
off staple items, I would go and buy that stuff
and resell it, wouldn't you. If I didn't do it,
somebody else would. That is called capitalism. And try as
Mandami might, he won't stop that train.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Amazing, isn't it? Talk about the stir top? It's made
in our election? Based on as far as I can tell, nothing,
ma'am Danni, he's really thrown the cat amongst the pigeons
in America?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Is he?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
He's like the Antichrist? But he's just everything I can tell,
And I've heard a few interviews with him and stuff.
He seems like quite a good guy who just wants
to help out, but looks a few potholes feed a
few hungry homeless people. I think he does want to
(10:02):
kick all the red people out in New York, so
it sucks to be them. But you know, I recan.
Anna wouldn't tour? Would you handle it?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
News talk? Has it been?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah? I don't think Anna Winkler will be shopping it
came that anytime soon. It sounds like Marcus does, or
it would not. You'd rather just drop at the warehouse.
What is this consumer watchdog thing that he seems to
be doing lately?
Speaker 8 (10:29):
Who's heard of the warehouse club? This is brand new
information to me. So now you know how you've got
the club from peck and save. Now there's now a
warehouse club.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I don't know if this is.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
The beginning of the end or the end of the beginning.
Club prices early excess, VIP perks and more masin been
a VIP at the warehouse, wouldn't that make you put
a spring in your step? So have anyone experienced that?
And how good is it? Because I know from our
audience they do like these sorts of things. It's what
(11:05):
you need another card, but it might be a card,
it might be something ut on that and just have
on your phone early excess. Do you think that means
it opens up at three in the morning, or it
means you get the chance to buy new products. Anyway,
it's called the Warehouse Club. Much discussion online about it.
(11:26):
Will I join it?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Why not? Early excess VIP perks Every year in our prediction,
someone always predicts that the Warehouse is going to close.
So I'm surprised there's still a spring in the step
of it. Now if you've experienced that. So it's a
loyalty program, I'll tell you something. But it's the choice
(11:50):
beween the Warehouse and Kmart. Much prefer the Warehouse. The
Kmart feels abandoned and we're just on a Saturday. There's
just piles of clothes, the pier sort of rummaged through
and dumped. I find Kmart's soul destroying warehouse.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
It's not so bad.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
Yeah, no, And I like the garden the center they've
got there. I think that brings some humanity to it.
So there we go. The Warehouse Club. That's a thing.
But I don't know how you get in touch with it.
People that you got to downloaded or something.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, they are both quite sol destroying. I don't know
what happened with the Warehouse. It's and is he talking
about the warehouse marketplace thing when you go online and
then you think you found just the right thing and
it turns out it's not at the warehouse at all.
It's at Noel Leavings that annoys me. He is right
(12:48):
about Kmart and all the packed over piles of stuff
that they do have a quite a good range of
cheap dog products though, you know, toys, leads, raincoats sort
of thing. So I'm torn. Don't make me choose, is
what I'm saying. Don't make me choose. I'll ponder that
(13:11):
and I'll have a preference for you tomorrow. Maybe probably won't.
I probably will have forgotten all about it, actually, but regardless,
I'll see it there.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Used Talking Talking zid Beam for more from us, Talk
said B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
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