January 26, 2026 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Otherwise... Why?/So Over Rugby/How Do We Pay More Pay?/How APRA Works/Climbing Buildings Is Pretty Out There
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said, b
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Used Talk said, be you Talk said Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Monday the all Blacks and New
Zealand rugby in general and all sorts of turmoil. So
it's a roiling turmoil. That's how far I go with
that one. Hey, nobody's getting paid enough, but it's not
(00:48):
clear where the money is coming from. Speaking of paying
people a little bit on the music royal piece, and
then the bloke had climbed up the eleven stall this building.
But before any of that, couldn't get through yesterday without
talking about the mountainland slide.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Of course, it was the eighth of August nineteen seventy
nine that was major. Sixty nine houses lost, six hundred
people evacuated, thankfully, no fatalities or major injuries. And that
happened after people in the area had been saying for
years that there were signs of land movement, cracks on
people's properties, their lawns, inside their houses, signs of movement
(01:29):
and then on the night of August the eighth, away
it went. But that was forty six years ago. So
if we didn't learn anything from that experience, the benefits
of early warnings, the benefits of this, the benefits of that,
the benefits of not doing certain activities in certain areas.
(01:51):
I read the report on it. The construction of the
nearby motorway was one of the contributing factors that the
investigators found. So if we didn't learn anything from that
experience forty six, forty six years ago, what hope that
we will learn anything from this? More to the point,
what hope that whatever we do learn leads to the
(02:13):
kind of change and accountability needed to at the very
least limit the chances of this kind of thing happening again.
I have very low expectations at this point, very low expectations.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
But what about you.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Do you agree that the Mountain Longer Ui disaster needs
to be seen as a wake up call, a major
wake up call? And how confident are you that we
will learn from it?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I tell you what I'm confident is going to happen
is that there's going to be a lot of people
wanting to blame somebody or something, and not very many
people who are prepared to go well as unfortunately, sometimes
bad stuff happens that never seems to be an acceptable answer.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
News Talk Zeth been a lot of.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Bad stuff happening around the All Blacks and New Zealand
Rugby are now Wayne meth as dump Shepherds. Well, so
I think we're done with us, We're done with net
or done with rugby. Let's get down to that new
theater and Hamilton and watching the arts instead. What do
you reckon?
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Narrowing the criteria has significantly reduced the viable options and
that's not a bad thing. It makes sense because Kirk,
Kevin Milamu and the appointment board need to move quickly.
The next Men's World Cup kicks off in twenty months
October next year, but perhaps even more pressing is the
(03:42):
start of Super Rugby. Round one is in just over
a fortnight and in order to prepare for the July Tests,
the new head coach needs to be in place as
early as possible during the Super Rugby season. And of course,
if it's Jamie Joseph who does get the gig, you
would hope that the Highlanders are given as much support
as possible in transitioning to a new coaching setup mid season.
(04:04):
So what are the options? As I say, by introducing
this criteria, they have narrowed the potential pool and otherwise
the options are narrowing by the day. Tony Brown has
made it pretty clear to my costing he won't be
chasing the gig right now, and the Sydney Morning Herald
reports today that Joe Schmidt won't be leaving Australia mid
Rugby World Cup cycle. So if neither of those two
(04:27):
budge in considering New Zealand Rugby's prerequisites and considering the
time frame pressures they face and making a decision and
getting a coach in place and established, there are no
more than maybe half a dozen who could theoretically be
in the role. And for my money, it's come down
(04:47):
to a two horse race Jamie Joseph or Dave Ready.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, we all think we can have a say about this,
don't we. But there's not a popularity contest and we
don't get a vote unfortunately, because if we did. I
wonder if we did, we'd we'd be less likely to
complain or would we still complain? I mean, I guess
(05:11):
that's how weeks with politics. We still complain, don't we
so probably wouldn't make any difference you talk said right,
So once again we've been focusing on the shortage of
train medical staff, especially in certain locations I think, and
enough doctors, and of course the Unions is caused to
(05:35):
pay the more. Ryan agreesverbody would be paid more. But
where is this magical never ending manipop.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
We will keep borrowing for this stuff and won't start
paying it back until at least twenty thirty. Most know
the uncomfortable truth about our situation. We're no longer the wealthy,
productive and plentiful country that we used to be. So
rather than simply saying we need to be paid more
we deserve to be paid more, which nobody disagrees with,
(06:04):
we need to ask how how do we make this
a wealthy, prosperous country which can afford to do that?
The Aussies are paying twenty five thirty percent more, but
they mind the but Jesus out of the place. We
sell tourism, but moan when there are too many campavans
on the road. We turn our nose up at gold
(06:26):
digging in Otago, a region founded on doing exactly that.
We put the boot into our farmers, who are about
the most productive on earth and who provide protein, nutrients
and goodness to forty million people globally. It's easy to
demand things, but it's not so easy to pay for them.
That's the real challenge, not just for a government, this government,
(06:49):
the next one, whoever it might be, but for every
single one of us in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
As I've said before, I'm just glad nobody really understands
what it is that I do here, which of course
is nothing. I don't tell them because then they might
take some of that poa that they're paying me and
to people who actually deserve it, like docles of NASS
and emergency services people and all that sort stuff. Say
(07:16):
between us, right, speaking of paying people things, paying musicians
for what they do, is this still helpening or are
they just getting chopped in from every direction these days?
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Page Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Hello, How are you very good? Now you're a musician
and you're familiar with how EPRA works.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, I just like I'm a little nervous to talk
about this because I am also somebody who is trying
to educate myself around royalties. Yeah, but I do believe
that One Music and EPRA is an amazing service to
songwriters where it's quite rare to have a service that
(07:58):
protects songwriters rights and royalties. But I guess like a
really good description of how one Music works. And this
is my understanding. I could be wrong, and anyone listening
can correct me, but from what I believe, it's One
Music collects the licensing fees from cafese you know, like
(08:22):
venues all that, and then they use that money to
fund APRA and Recorded Music who collect songwriting royalties, so
that APRA and master royalties which is recorded music.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
There you go, that's how that works. It's not complicated
at all, was it? It's clear on that I know.
I am.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
News talk ZI been all.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Right, it's finished up. Talking about mister Hanold who climbed
up the building, the eleventh tallest building. Do you reckon?
That was something that he's always thought, Ah, one day
I'm going to climb up the eleventh tallest building. I
(09:06):
mean it's it's over half a kilometer at all. That's
that's tall building, don't here on, But it's not a
hundred and something meters tall. It's the bird believers and
he mightn't do that building. Was it because he had
to do it within ninety minutes? Was that all where
Netflix could afford to cover live?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
I don't know if anyone sat down and watched that
guy climbing the building. I didn't. I thought, why would
you watch a guy climbing a building where you could
slip at the moment he didn't slip. And I've only
just realized now that there was a ten second delay
on that stuff he did fall. You wouldn't have watched that.
But gee, that was grim I've since gone back and
watched a number of videos. You think, kind of how
(09:44):
would they make sure that There's a couple of things
I want to ask about that that particular conquest, Like
the building looked quite clean, because I can imagine if
you're climbing a building that's been around for about twenty years,
(10:04):
it could be sort of greasy patches and stuff with
his dust and things that you could slip. So one
of they prepared the building before, it didn't look like
they had. It's kind of curious with how they'd managed that.
But yes, that was extraordinary, And you also think you'd
be worried that some kind of bits of flashing or
on the outside would come loose. It was unbelievable to
watch that, but yeah, I can't. I mean, I enjoy
(10:26):
watching those things, but couldn't watch them live. It's like
when you climbed El Capatan or whatever it was, which
seemed to be much harder climb but impossible to watch.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Just terrify.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And that's how we climbed one of the world's tallest
podcasts for another day. You don't know how tall it is.
I'm looking at it.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
It's at all.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'll see you back here again to morrow. That was
it was just being silly. It's not at all. It's
about insane.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Same heart as all well on the podcast US Talks Doors,
it been for more from news Talks. It'd be listen
live on air or online and keep our shows with
you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Ey
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said, b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you Talk said Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Monday the all Blacks and New
Zealand rugby in general and all sorts of turmoil. So
it's a roiling turmoil. That's how far I go with
that one. Hey, nobody's getting paid enough, but it's not
(00:48):
clear where the money is coming from. Speaking of paying
people a little bit on the music royal piece, and
then the bloke had climbed up the eleven stall this building.
But before any of that, couldn't get through yesterday without
talking about the mountainland slide.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Of course, it was the eighth of August nineteen seventy
nine that was major. Sixty nine houses lost, six hundred
people evacuated, thankfully, no fatalities or major injuries. And that
happened after people in the area had been saying for
years that there were signs of land movement, cracks on
people's properties, their lawns, inside their houses, signs of movement
(01:29):
and then on the night of August the eighth, away
it went. But that was forty six years ago. So
if we didn't learn anything from that experience, the benefits
of early warnings, the benefits of this, the benefits of that,
the benefits of not doing certain activities in certain areas.
(01:51):
I read the report on it. The construction of the
nearby motorway was one of the contributing factors that the
investigators found. So if we didn't learn anything from that
experience forty six, forty six years ago, what hope that
we will learn anything from this? More to the point,
what hope that whatever we do learn leads to the
(02:13):
kind of change and accountability needed to at the very
least limit the chances of this kind of thing happening again.
I have very low expectations at this point, very low expectations.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
But what about you.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Do you agree that the Mountain Longer Ui disaster needs
to be seen as a wake up call, a major
wake up call? And how confident are you that we
will learn from it?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I tell you what I'm confident is going to happen
is that there's going to be a lot of people
wanting to blame somebody or something, and not very many
people who are prepared to go well as unfortunately, sometimes
bad stuff happens that never seems to be an acceptable answer.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
News Talk Zeth been a lot of.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Bad stuff happening around the All Blacks and New Zealand
Rugby are now Wayne meth as dump Shepherds. Well, so
I think we're done with us, We're done with net
or done with rugby. Let's get down to that new
theater and Hamilton and watching the arts instead. What do
you reckon?
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Narrowing the criteria has significantly reduced the viable options and
that's not a bad thing. It makes sense because Kirk,
Kevin Milamu and the appointment board need to move quickly.
The next Men's World Cup kicks off in twenty months
October next year, but perhaps even more pressing is the
(03:42):
start of Super Rugby. Round one is in just over
a fortnight and in order to prepare for the July Tests,
the new head coach needs to be in place as
early as possible during the Super Rugby season. And of course,
if it's Jamie Joseph who does get the gig, you
would hope that the Highlanders are given as much support
as possible in transitioning to a new coaching setup mid season.
(04:04):
So what are the options? As I say, by introducing
this criteria, they have narrowed the potential pool and otherwise
the options are narrowing by the day. Tony Brown has
made it pretty clear to my costing he won't be
chasing the gig right now, and the Sydney Morning Herald
reports today that Joe Schmidt won't be leaving Australia mid
Rugby World Cup cycle. So if neither of those two
(04:27):
budge in considering New Zealand Rugby's prerequisites and considering the
time frame pressures they face and making a decision and
getting a coach in place and established, there are no
more than maybe half a dozen who could theoretically be
in the role. And for my money, it's come down
(04:47):
to a two horse race Jamie Joseph or Dave Ready.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, we all think we can have a say about this,
don't we. But there's not a popularity contest and we
don't get a vote unfortunately, because if we did. I
wonder if we did, we'd we'd be less likely to
complain or would we still complain? I mean, I guess
(05:11):
that's how weeks with politics. We still complain, don't we
so probably wouldn't make any difference you talk said right,
So once again we've been focusing on the shortage of
train medical staff, especially in certain locations I think, and
enough doctors, and of course the Unions is caused to
(05:35):
pay the more. Ryan agreesverbody would be paid more. But
where is this magical never ending manipop.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
We will keep borrowing for this stuff and won't start
paying it back until at least twenty thirty. Most know
the uncomfortable truth about our situation. We're no longer the wealthy,
productive and plentiful country that we used to be. So
rather than simply saying we need to be paid more
we deserve to be paid more, which nobody disagrees with,
(06:04):
we need to ask how how do we make this
a wealthy, prosperous country which can afford to do that?
The Aussies are paying twenty five thirty percent more, but
they mind the but Jesus out of the place. We
sell tourism, but moan when there are too many campavans
on the road. We turn our nose up at gold
(06:26):
digging in Otago, a region founded on doing exactly that.
We put the boot into our farmers, who are about
the most productive on earth and who provide protein, nutrients
and goodness to forty million people globally. It's easy to
demand things, but it's not so easy to pay for them.
That's the real challenge, not just for a government, this government,
(06:49):
the next one, whoever it might be, but for every
single one of us in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
As I've said before, I'm just glad nobody really understands
what it is that I do here, which of course
is nothing. I don't tell them because then they might
take some of that poa that they're paying me and
to people who actually deserve it, like docles of NASS
and emergency services people and all that sort stuff. Say
(07:16):
between us, right, speaking of paying people things, paying musicians
for what they do, is this still helpening or are
they just getting chopped in from every direction these days?
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Page Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Hello, How are you very good? Now you're a musician
and you're familiar with how EPRA works.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, I just like I'm a little nervous to talk
about this because I am also somebody who is trying
to educate myself around royalties. Yeah, but I do believe
that One Music and EPRA is an amazing service to
songwriters where it's quite rare to have a service that
(07:58):
protects songwriters rights and royalties. But I guess like a
really good description of how one Music works. And this
is my understanding. I could be wrong, and anyone listening
can correct me, but from what I believe, it's One
Music collects the licensing fees from cafese you know, like
(08:22):
venues all that, and then they use that money to
fund APRA and Recorded Music who collect songwriting royalties, so
that APRA and master royalties which is recorded music.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
There you go, that's how that works. It's not complicated
at all, was it? It's clear on that I know.
I am.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
News talk ZI been all.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Right, it's finished up. Talking about mister Hanold who climbed
up the building, the eleventh tallest building. Do you reckon?
That was something that he's always thought, Ah, one day
I'm going to climb up the eleventh tallest building. I
(09:06):
mean it's it's over half a kilometer at all. That's
that's tall building, don't here on, But it's not a
hundred and something meters tall. It's the bird believers and
he mightn't do that building. Was it because he had
to do it within ninety minutes? Was that all where
Netflix could afford to cover live?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
I don't know if anyone sat down and watched that
guy climbing the building. I didn't. I thought, why would
you watch a guy climbing a building where you could
slip at the moment he didn't slip. And I've only
just realized now that there was a ten second delay
on that stuff he did fall. You wouldn't have watched that.
But gee, that was grim I've since gone back and
watched a number of videos. You think, kind of how
(09:44):
would they make sure that There's a couple of things
I want to ask about that that particular conquest, Like
the building looked quite clean, because I can imagine if
you're climbing a building that's been around for about twenty years,
(10:04):
it could be sort of greasy patches and stuff with
his dust and things that you could slip. So one
of they prepared the building before, it didn't look like
they had. It's kind of curious with how they'd managed that.
But yes, that was extraordinary, And you also think you'd
be worried that some kind of bits of flashing or
on the outside would come loose. It was unbelievable to
watch that, but yeah, I can't. I mean, I enjoy
(10:26):
watching those things, but couldn't watch them live. It's like
when you climbed El Capatan or whatever it was, which
seemed to be much harder climb but impossible to watch.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Just terrify.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And that's how we climbed one of the world's tallest
podcasts for another day. You don't know how tall it is.
I'm looking at it.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
It's at all.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'll see you back here again to morrow. That was
it was just being silly. It's not at all. It's
about insane.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Same heart as all well on the podcast US Talks Doors,
it been for more from news Talks. It'd be listen
live on air or online and keep our shows with
you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Ey
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