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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news, I am Glenn harton you're looking
back at Tuesday. We need to talk about the feasibility
of trucking who water out of the fast track development
(00:47):
next door to my place. This is very important because
it's next door to my place. But before any of that, Yes,
it was quite the day of gone by lunchtime talk yesterday.
Our Latson wasn't gone by lunchtime yesterday, might be today apparently. Anyway,
(01:09):
did Ryan see the riding on the wall quite early
on this?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Despite expensive advertising campaigns and glossy videos of the PM
explaining their fiscal strategy, his comments on the campaign, which
is underway in Earnest, are drowning out the pre recorded
material the last week they've been in cleanup mode. They
can't afford to spend another three months trapesing around the
country with a dust pan and broom. That would require
(01:33):
either better discipline from the current leader or a change
to a new one which has always been the fly
in the ointment for national there is no just cinder
in waiting in the wings. Bishop and Willis are well
versed debaters who perform well on the campaign. However, kiwis
like reluctant heroes and Bishop looks rightly or wrongly anything.
But Willis's near perfect performance handling the initial fuel shot
(01:57):
proves her worth, but she may be too tied to
the cost of living woes that have hurt Laxen. Erica
Stanford is the candidate you'd pick if you really wanted
to play ball. She's denied wanting it enough which is
he and as a star performer, able to connect with
people in a way others have proven incapable. At this point,
this is all just talk, but timing is everything in politics,
(02:18):
and the fact MPs are briefing journalists twelve weeks out
from early voting is destabilizing in itself. Are you better
to nip it in the bud or hope for brighter days?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I think then nip it in the bud phase is
well passed, and you're seriously running the risk now of
brooding the tree about hard and at dying at the roots.
We've gone a bit far on that metaphorm. Maybe news
talk ze been anyway, as I suggested yesterday, I think
(02:50):
it was yesterday. I do wonder if Heather and Concert
with Coglin of the New Zealand Herald, the two of them,
they just seem to have been beating this get rid
of lux and drum for months now. It does seem
(03:13):
now though, that other people might be dancing along to
that beat.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
There are about seventeen and a half hours between now
and half past nine tomorrow morning, and MPs who are
in the running, and there are multiple MPs who consider
themselves to be in the running for leadership. Those MPs
will be using every one of those hours within reason,
to try to get the numbers for them. There will
be horse trading between now and nine thirty tomorrow, There
will be promises of jobs, Loyalties will shift. But what
(03:40):
I would say is that it is going to be
very hard for Chris Luxen to survive this, because how
do you survive two of these in less than four months?
Does Chris Luxon, let's just say he does the amazing
thing tomorrow and against all the odds he manages to survive.
Does he have any authority left after that? I also
(04:00):
think he is very close to losing the numbers, if
he hasn't already. I have counted by myself three loyal
lux And MPs who have left him. Two of them
have joined Erica Stanford's camp. One of them has joined
Chris Bishop's camp. If you've been following this over the
last week, you will know that he only had a
margin of three MPs in the rumored twenty seven to
twenty two vote in April. He has lost by my
(04:21):
account those three MPs, and those are just the ones
I know about. He has possibly lost more than that.
As I say, I think you would be a fool
to say with certainty one way or the other that
Chris Luxen WILLI will not be rolled tomorrow. But I
don't like his chances. I don't think this is looking
good for him at all.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It's a weird thing to me because I don't think.
I don't think I've seen any polling where the Left
can form any kind of government at this stage, no matter,
you know, although the polling, you know, perhaps at some
polls has been bad, the National and Reluxe and in
particular it's not that bad. Qu's talk sidean anyway. The
(05:02):
afternoon show as this sort of whole rubbish fire, flash fire,
what is that anyway? That's fire burning something or other,
gathered momentum, gathered heat, gathered smoke. Some people, I think
we're just as confused about what was going on as
(05:23):
I was.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
What is going on? You know, at least there are
you know, National has put out and shown that there
are policies that they will be in endorsing and putting out,
you know, from in all the various departments. We're talk
about law, education and future, but I don't hear anything else.
(05:44):
And I'm annoyed with the media because I just think
they are distracting us from what we should really be
going which is understanding what each party is going to
do and the effects going forward.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Yeah, well, hopefully, Paul, when I think we do do
this on this station, as we actually talk about the
policy that gets fronted up by various different parties and
throw it out to or they host talk about it
in the breakfast in the afternoon shows as well. But
you know, calling the second meeting. So he did this
in April and to quell the dissenters and to put
a line in the sand that I am the leader
(06:21):
and I will be the leader to the election, and
then having to call another meeting to do that. That's
what I can't understand. I mean, why can't you smoke
out these dissenters who are stirring the pot and talking
to various reporters and then it's becoming headline news. I mean, again,
I look back on some of our stronger MP's, John
Key and Helen Clark. I just don't think they would
(06:42):
have stood for this. They would have found out who
was doing the leaking and smoked them out of the party.
And that's that A.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
See smoke don't there's smoke? Did? Is that what Helen
Clark did?
Speaker 6 (06:54):
I thought she.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Famuously sort of found out the people who had problems
with her and then gave them jobs high up in
her cabinet so she don't have to stab her in
the front rather than another back. Isn't that how she operated?
Oh no, it was a long time ago now, who
can remember any of that stuff? City anyway, what a
(07:15):
what a cool world it is that you can actually
get on this kind of thing now, of course, And
I don't mean with your vote, I mean with actual money.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
If you're a national MP and you're looking at getting
into a government. When ACT and New Zealand first have
more members in cabinet flip, what a night mess scenario
that would be. You'd have help Paul Henry doing broadcasts,
you have laws doing actually both doing broad you have
(07:45):
laws doing education. I mean, who know, cheap as creepers
and a lot of them are looking and not getting
back in because the poll that the numbers are down,
they won't get returned. So when it tiens up the
MP's vote out of self interest because as they say,
it's very hard to get a job as an ex
prime minist. That's why they end up in real estate. Marcus,
(08:09):
what are the listers thinking? Just joined and hoping for Stanford?
All the listers are more focused than they were last
night and they've said a variety of things. They think
Stanford is the serious ardoun That was one comment. Um.
Someone said it was the media's fault because they just
(08:30):
get soundbites from Luxon when he makes a fool of himself,
so the media have stitched him up. And David says
people are talking about personalities instead of policies. People are
ridiculous wanting change now. Also, you are selective on who
(08:52):
you let talk. I did every single person talk, David,
So don't come at me with that sort of garbage.
Thanks for the number ending in eighty three polymarket Now
has Luxon been rolled at sixty four percent the last
four hours. It's gone from forty eight to sixty four percent.
If you want to make money on someone's misery, you
(09:12):
can do that, but you won't sleep straight at night?
Is it the metaphor?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
So? Why is that problematic that you can bet on
Luckson's surviving or not as leader of national Well, what
if he decides to make a bet on that himself?
You know, wait, wait to the odds and or out
(09:38):
of your favor. And this is what they're talking about
now in the United States, with these upcoming midterms not
looking great for the Republican Party, a lot of them
stand to make quite a bit of money if they
bet against themselves and don't do very well in their campaigns.
What a crazy old world, eh. Anyway, good luck Christopher today.
(10:02):
I hate you didn't know anything about this until I've
domessic manager got home last night and told me I
hadn't really been following the news, news talk zip been.
I just assumed that people were going to keep talking
about pool water being trapped from this Delmont development. It's
been given the fast track approval. And if you think
(10:25):
that I'm just hot on this issue because it's sort
of in the area in which I live, you are
absolutely correct. But yeah, I've got this podcast and I
could talk about it as much as I like.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Over the years, every plan for a private wastewater system
at Whitford Mana collapsed. A deal to pipe waste across
a neighboring golf course fell through shock me, and a
backup plan to dump it in a nearby creek was
killed in the High Court by conservation as suniwe and
I don't blame them. It didn't work. One hundred and
(10:58):
fifty years ago, we're still dealing with the problems of
just using natural waterways to dump our crep into and
our arsenal and our poisons from the factories. Look at
the creeks around gray Lynn. They're still recovering. So what
in God's name are we doing in order? Whatever water
care held up Whitford man It's failure is one of
(11:21):
the reasons to object to other housing projects trying to
build outside the public network. We've been there, We've seen
that it can go wrong. Everybody's opposed to it, apart
from the developers, who you can take your ecological area
(11:42):
and your engage in skink and shove it up your jacksy,
because until you've got the infrastructure that's necessary, you're creating
a recipe for disaster. And you won't be clearing it up.
You won't be because like Whitford manor you just go
tits up and bankrupt and off you go. And guess
(12:03):
who's left cleaning up your waist, your mess the rate payers.
The text pays no, no, no, no no. If this
is an example of the fast trek consenting process, it's
a big fat fail from me.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, if only there's been people out there who sort
of you know, warning people about things being fast back
too quickly. And that's that was just a little shot
because I have been saying that sort of thing. And
what do you mean you haven't heard me? And this
this is the first time you listen to this podcast.
What have you been doing? Just jokes? Welcome toward who
(12:45):
knows who the prime minister will be by this tide
of borrow? Isn't that fun? See it? Then?
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Us?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Talk is talk said been for more from News talk
said B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news, I am Glenn harton you're looking
back at Tuesday. We need to talk about the feasibility
of trucking who water out of the fast track development
(00:47):
next door to my place. This is very important because
it's next door to my place. But before any of that, Yes,
it was quite the day of gone by lunchtime talk yesterday.
Our Latson wasn't gone by lunchtime yesterday, might be today apparently. Anyway,
(01:09):
did Ryan see the riding on the wall quite early
on this?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Despite expensive advertising campaigns and glossy videos of the PM
explaining their fiscal strategy, his comments on the campaign, which
is underway in Earnest, are drowning out the pre recorded
material the last week they've been in cleanup mode. They
can't afford to spend another three months trapesing around the
country with a dust pan and broom. That would require
(01:33):
either better discipline from the current leader or a change
to a new one which has always been the fly
in the ointment for national there is no just cinder
in waiting in the wings. Bishop and Willis are well
versed debaters who perform well on the campaign. However, kiwis
like reluctant heroes and Bishop looks rightly or wrongly anything.
But Willis's near perfect performance handling the initial fuel shot
(01:57):
proves her worth, but she may be too tied to
the cost of living woes that have hurt Laxen. Erica
Stanford is the candidate you'd pick if you really wanted
to play ball. She's denied wanting it enough which is
he and as a star performer, able to connect with
people in a way others have proven incapable. At this point,
this is all just talk, but timing is everything in politics,
(02:18):
and the fact MPs are briefing journalists twelve weeks out
from early voting is destabilizing in itself. Are you better
to nip it in the bud or hope for brighter days?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I think then nip it in the bud phase is
well passed, and you're seriously running the risk now of
brooding the tree about hard and at dying at the roots.
We've gone a bit far on that metaphorm. Maybe news
talk ze been anyway, as I suggested yesterday, I think
(02:50):
it was yesterday. I do wonder if Heather and Concert
with Coglin of the New Zealand Herald, the two of them,
they just seem to have been beating this get rid
of lux and drum for months now. It does seem
(03:13):
now though, that other people might be dancing along to
that beat.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
There are about seventeen and a half hours between now
and half past nine tomorrow morning, and MPs who are
in the running, and there are multiple MPs who consider
themselves to be in the running for leadership. Those MPs
will be using every one of those hours within reason,
to try to get the numbers for them. There will
be horse trading between now and nine thirty tomorrow, There
will be promises of jobs, Loyalties will shift. But what
(03:40):
I would say is that it is going to be
very hard for Chris Luxen to survive this, because how
do you survive two of these in less than four months?
Does Chris Luxon, let's just say he does the amazing
thing tomorrow and against all the odds he manages to survive.
Does he have any authority left after that? I also
(04:00):
think he is very close to losing the numbers, if
he hasn't already. I have counted by myself three loyal
lux And MPs who have left him. Two of them
have joined Erica Stanford's camp. One of them has joined
Chris Bishop's camp. If you've been following this over the
last week, you will know that he only had a
margin of three MPs in the rumored twenty seven to
twenty two vote in April. He has lost by my
(04:21):
account those three MPs, and those are just the ones
I know about. He has possibly lost more than that.
As I say, I think you would be a fool
to say with certainty one way or the other that
Chris Luxen WILLI will not be rolled tomorrow. But I
don't like his chances. I don't think this is looking
good for him at all.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It's a weird thing to me because I don't think.
I don't think I've seen any polling where the Left
can form any kind of government at this stage, no matter,
you know, although the polling, you know, perhaps at some
polls has been bad, the National and Reluxe and in
particular it's not that bad. Qu's talk sidean anyway. The
(05:02):
afternoon show as this sort of whole rubbish fire, flash fire,
what is that anyway? That's fire burning something or other,
gathered momentum, gathered heat, gathered smoke. Some people, I think
we're just as confused about what was going on as
(05:23):
I was.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
What is going on? You know, at least there are
you know, National has put out and shown that there
are policies that they will be in endorsing and putting out,
you know, from in all the various departments. We're talk
about law, education and future, but I don't hear anything else.
(05:44):
And I'm annoyed with the media because I just think
they are distracting us from what we should really be
going which is understanding what each party is going to
do and the effects going forward.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Yeah, well, hopefully, Paul, when I think we do do
this on this station, as we actually talk about the
policy that gets fronted up by various different parties and
throw it out to or they host talk about it
in the breakfast in the afternoon shows as well. But
you know, calling the second meeting. So he did this
in April and to quell the dissenters and to put
a line in the sand that I am the leader
(06:21):
and I will be the leader to the election, and
then having to call another meeting to do that. That's
what I can't understand. I mean, why can't you smoke
out these dissenters who are stirring the pot and talking
to various reporters and then it's becoming headline news. I mean, again,
I look back on some of our stronger MP's, John
Key and Helen Clark. I just don't think they would
(06:42):
have stood for this. They would have found out who
was doing the leaking and smoked them out of the party.
And that's that A.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
See smoke don't there's smoke? Did? Is that what Helen
Clark did?
Speaker 6 (06:54):
I thought she.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Famuously sort of found out the people who had problems
with her and then gave them jobs high up in
her cabinet so she don't have to stab her in
the front rather than another back. Isn't that how she operated?
Oh no, it was a long time ago now, who
can remember any of that stuff? City anyway, what a
(07:15):
what a cool world it is that you can actually
get on this kind of thing now, of course, And
I don't mean with your vote, I mean with actual money.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
If you're a national MP and you're looking at getting
into a government. When ACT and New Zealand first have
more members in cabinet flip, what a night mess scenario
that would be. You'd have help Paul Henry doing broadcasts,
you have laws doing actually both doing broad you have
(07:45):
laws doing education. I mean, who know, cheap as creepers
and a lot of them are looking and not getting
back in because the poll that the numbers are down,
they won't get returned. So when it tiens up the
MP's vote out of self interest because as they say,
it's very hard to get a job as an ex
prime minist. That's why they end up in real estate. Marcus,
(08:09):
what are the listers thinking? Just joined and hoping for Stanford?
All the listers are more focused than they were last
night and they've said a variety of things. They think
Stanford is the serious ardoun That was one comment. Um.
Someone said it was the media's fault because they just
(08:30):
get soundbites from Luxon when he makes a fool of himself,
so the media have stitched him up. And David says
people are talking about personalities instead of policies. People are
ridiculous wanting change now. Also, you are selective on who
(08:52):
you let talk. I did every single person talk, David,
So don't come at me with that sort of garbage.
Thanks for the number ending in eighty three polymarket Now
has Luxon been rolled at sixty four percent the last
four hours. It's gone from forty eight to sixty four percent.
If you want to make money on someone's misery, you
(09:12):
can do that, but you won't sleep straight at night?
Is it the metaphor?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
So? Why is that problematic that you can bet on
Luckson's surviving or not as leader of national Well, what
if he decides to make a bet on that himself?
You know, wait, wait to the odds and or out
(09:38):
of your favor. And this is what they're talking about
now in the United States, with these upcoming midterms not
looking great for the Republican Party, a lot of them
stand to make quite a bit of money if they
bet against themselves and don't do very well in their campaigns.
What a crazy old world, eh. Anyway, good luck Christopher today.
(10:02):
I hate you didn't know anything about this until I've
domessic manager got home last night and told me I
hadn't really been following the news, news talk zip been.
I just assumed that people were going to keep talking
about pool water being trapped from this Delmont development. It's
been given the fast track approval. And if you think
(10:25):
that I'm just hot on this issue because it's sort
of in the area in which I live, you are
absolutely correct. But yeah, I've got this podcast and I
could talk about it as much as I like.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Over the years, every plan for a private wastewater system
at Whitford Mana collapsed. A deal to pipe waste across
a neighboring golf course fell through shock me, and a
backup plan to dump it in a nearby creek was
killed in the High Court by conservation as suniwe and
I don't blame them. It didn't work. One hundred and
(10:58):
fifty years ago, we're still dealing with the problems of
just using natural waterways to dump our crep into and
our arsenal and our poisons from the factories. Look at
the creeks around gray Lynn. They're still recovering. So what
in God's name are we doing in order? Whatever water
care held up Whitford man It's failure is one of
(11:21):
the reasons to object to other housing projects trying to
build outside the public network. We've been there, We've seen
that it can go wrong. Everybody's opposed to it, apart
from the developers, who you can take your ecological area
(11:42):
and your engage in skink and shove it up your jacksy,
because until you've got the infrastructure that's necessary, you're creating
a recipe for disaster. And you won't be clearing it up.
You won't be because like Whitford manor you just go
tits up and bankrupt and off you go. And guess
(12:03):
who's left cleaning up your waist, your mess the rate payers.
The text pays no, no, no, no no. If this
is an example of the fast trek consenting process, it's
a big fat fail from me.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, if only there's been people out there who sort
of you know, warning people about things being fast back
too quickly. And that's that was just a little shot
because I have been saying that sort of thing. And
what do you mean you haven't heard me? And this
this is the first time you listen to this podcast.
What have you been doing? Just jokes? Welcome toward who
(12:45):
knows who the prime minister will be by this tide
of borrow? Isn't that fun? See it? Then?
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Us?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Talk is talk said been for more from News talk
said B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
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