April 28, 2026 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) Just What I Always Wanted/The FTA That Never Comes/Definitely Sackable/But How Did They Keep the Toilets Clean?/Podcast Roulette
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said, b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glenn Hart, and we're
looking back Tuesday and that India FBA is how is
this not? It seems like this is the thing that
just never ever comes. Yeah, although it's all been signed
(00:44):
off now, it's still going to go through select committee
and still we're gonna anyway, we'll get into that again.
Mikey Schuman turns out to be well an idiot one
in zed stadium turns out to be fantastic, and we're
going to do some podcast roulette at the end. Thanks
Matta Tyler. I knew you'd come up with the goods
(01:05):
before any of that. It turns out where too old
and we're not having enough kids.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Oh no, Ittaly, Estonia, Turkey, I mean you name it,
South Korea, Japan, They've all tried to entice women couples
to have more babies and it's not working. So I
don't know. I mean, I certainly talking to couples in
(01:32):
their mid thirties, they would have more children if they
felt they could afford them. Would zero income tax do
it for you? Low interest mortgages? Would that do it
for you? Is it an uncertain world that's putting you
off bringing children into it? What is it that has
(01:58):
meant that you have stopped at the children you have
or chosen not to have children at all? Is it
simply a matter of money? And when it comes to
enticing people to come and live here, sure, AI might
fix some other shortages, We're still going to need people
(02:20):
and we need to welcome them. Otherwise we really will
just be a poorly serviced retirement village at the bottom
of the South Pacific, and that's all we will be.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I feel partly to blame because I've made it very
well known that all I have ever wanted to do
is retire. That's what my whole working life has been
about to get myself in a position to retire as
sooner the better. And if everybody has that attitude, we
are going to be it'screw, don't we News talk Z been.
(03:00):
Hopefully we can just fill our country up with Indians
who want to run businesses and do the work because
we don't. Is that what the FDA is all about.
Is that what people are worried about. With the FDA,
it sounds like a great solution to be.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Their Trade department has pointed out that the thing excludes dairy,
so that's safe for them, along with other sensitive markets
that they're interested in. They like the fact that we
have conceded one hundred percent duty free access in key
manufacturing labor intensive industries. The Mint news site names checks, textiles, leather,
foot where, engineering goods, plastics, processed food, a whole bunch
(03:36):
of stuff here. Our primary industries are celebrating their wins too,
and that's the point that I think has been somewhat
lost in the last few months. Both sides win from
trade deals. You make some concessions, sure, but you get
some gains. Like any deal, it's not all one way traffic.
India is set to overtake Germany as the third world's
(03:57):
third largest economy. It's an absolute behemoth. It's massive. To
not jump on board would have meant missing the boat.
Most keybis can see the benefits from the or that
Goff and Clark, to their credit, did and signed with China.
Trump may be trying to sully the reputation of free trade,
but it hasn't dampened our spirits because we can see
(04:17):
the benefits. There's an argument to be made against NAFTA,
you know, affecting the rough belt workers in the US,
and you see that showing up at the polls. But
in this country the benefits have largely outweighed the costs.
And there will be costs, like with any deal, but
the net benefit is what we should be focused on.
To realize those benefits. The rains are now firmly in
(04:40):
the hands of business to do what it does best.
Our exporterers, our deal makers, our market specialists are already
on the blower, on the plane or in country trying
to get a slice of the action, and good luck
to them.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Ah. I can't begin to tell you how sick I
am of hearing about this, talking about this, and not
just doing this. Can we please, please, please, please please
stop finding reasons to complain about it?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Used talk Sippy so TV.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And zeb what the hell's going on over there? We've
got this whole stout with the PM not going on
breakfast anymore, and now Mikey Sherman turns out to be
a complete homophobe or something what's going on.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
I don't know how Mikey Sherman retains her job as
TVNZ's political editor after the revelation that she called another
journalist a homophobic slow slur starting with f at drinks
in Nikolailis's office last year. I mean, think about this, right,
If that was a cabinet minister who had used the
F word on somebody else who was gay, they would
lose their job. Andrew Bailey, for example, lost his job
(05:47):
for pulling a loser sign with his fingers on his forehead,
which is far less now. Obviously, it doesn't stop Mikey
being able to do her job. She can technically still
do it, but I don't know that she still has
the credibility to be able to do it, especially after
I told you about this incident, and then also that
it's not the only time she's had a verbal altercation
with another journalist in a drinking setter setting that has
(06:07):
shocked and has caused rumors to go around Wellington, and
especially after the incident last week where she knocked on
Stuart Smith's store the National Party MP, allegedly for ten
minutes at nine pint thirty at night. I do not envy,
TV and Z. In this situation, it is election year.
They've got two very hard choices. They can either tough
it out with her or they can get rid of her. Now,
(06:27):
if they tough it out with her, they're going to
have some trouble next time an MP gets themselves into
hot water defending Mikey Sherman holding that MP to account
when she has survived a slur that an MP would
not survive. But if they get rid of her an
election year, they need somebody in a hurry. And who
are they going to promote? Are they going to promote
her second in charge Benedict Collins? Is that going to
(06:48):
solve the problem? After the factor he shot himself in
the foot with the crime story Debarkle recently, I don't
enjoy I had a text earlier saying, what are you
trying to ruin her career? I don't enjoy saying this
about Mikey. I thought she was actually very good at
her job. Her analysis wasn't bad. I realized not everybody
loved her, but I actually enjoyed watching her. I also
don't enjoy that this is the second can show in
(07:08):
a row that I'm talking about another member of the
media hair, so we could look like this as competitive bitchiness.
What this actually is, though, is it's holding ourselves as
media to the same standards that we hold others, the
members of Parliament. If Andrew Bailey could not get away
with less, can Mikey Schuman honestly get away with this?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I would say absolutely she can't. I mean, come on, guys, look,
your game not that hard? Is it to just be
a normal, nice human being?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Surely? Okay?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Right? It's all everybody was talking about really over the weekend,
wasn't it? The five Super rugby games in three days
at the new Stadium. I just can't stop thinking about
the toilets. How did they keep the toiletsquen? Did they
keep the toilets going?
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Look, I think everyone I have not heard a bad
report about the sports event and christ Chitch over the weekend,
And part of me thought, oh, I hope there's not
some bad news stories. I hope there's not a riot
afterwards to get beer or something, because sometimes the people
(08:22):
sometimes a sense of occasion overwhelms people. But I have
not heard one spirit of bad information from Christchitch. So
well done, people. It was not one bad headline there
was no moan. There was nothing to state in the
pillar of christ Chich you've waited a long long time
to get and they've got it, and they're happy with it.
In fact, they're ecstatic with it. In fact, they're so
happy with it there and I'm now talking about it
(08:43):
as one of the country's great stadium. So I don't
know if that's a thing or not. But so if
you want to comment about that, if you've got more verdicts,
more thoughts about it. But yeah, everyone seems to have
said it's fantastic, So I haven't heard it, and I'm
not saying it's not like I'm saying I haven't anything
bad about it. Have you got anything bad to say
it about it? But no, I just want to hear
(09:03):
from you if you want to continue on that positivity.
From Friday and said Day and Sunday from christ Church,
everyone seemed to like the everything about the stadium, the
site lines, the someone was talking about how how good
it was, how how easy it was for everyone that left.
What would they call that down the clear out? Yeah,
people love the clear out, how quickly you could leave,
(09:25):
which was I've never heard that been as a plus
before cheapest creepers. We've left there quickly. But people love
the clear out, they love the food, they love the beer,
they loved everything about that. They loved the staff, they
love the fact that you could pay wave through in terminal.
So that was situation tickety.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Tic tic tic tic tic. So if they did manage
to keep the toilets clean, then that then poses the question,
how is it that so often you go to a
public toilet anywhere else in the country and they can't
keep those clean and they're not having five rugging matches
in three days? Have I become overly obsessed with this
podcast about trying to keep toilets clean? Maybe news talk
(10:02):
been so podcast Roulette, what a great way to end
the podcast. Matt and Tyler. So I've got this cat here.
It's called Matt Tramples kid at Sausage Sizzle. Is there
more to this or is that just literally what happened?
Let's find out. Let's let's spin that podcast Roulette. Barrel.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
I was waiting for a sausage and a sausage line, right,
I can't. I'm one of those people that can't go past.
And I think a lot of kiwis like this, right
when we see a sausage sizzle. Whatever we're doing, we
drop everything to join the kit.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
You can smell it from five hundred meters away and
you just slowly drift towards it.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
I don't care what the causes could be. Anything.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You just wante the sausage.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
It could be a cause that's actively working against me,
and I'll still go and buy a sausage.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Right.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
So I'm going to buy a sausage, and I'm in
the queue and I'm holding up my phone because there's
a QR code so you can pay while you're in
the queue, because you know, a lot of people don't
have cash now, and sausages with people don't want to
have to run an f POS machine or ever.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
So I'm doing that, and then there's a I don't
know this, but there's a kid, a little kid, like
a toddler behind me, and I sort of move and
I trip up it over the kid. Okay, so I go,
I go flying onto the ground over the kid and
the kid starts crying.
Speaker 8 (11:11):
Right, So you're down. The child was down, Yep.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
I'm pretty much down right yep. Not fully down, I
don't think, but just discombobulated and falling backwards and feeling
bad because the kids.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Got hurt, right, Yes, that's the situation.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
The kid starts crying, and so I immediately apologize to
the kid. The kid doesn't give me anything back, because
it's a kid, you know whatever, not at all. I
apologize to the dad. Dad doesn't say anything. Dad picks
up the kid looks at me, looks down at the kid,
and then so I apologize again, even though it's totally
not my fault, right, it's not my fault, and the
dad's giving me this.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
Think, Oh, I think you're the right here. If the
kid's running around your legs like some sort of border collie,
then the onus is on the father to say, hey, boy,
get out of people's legs, because you know there's no
melice there, right, It's not like you saw the kid
in the It's not like.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
I go around backing into toddlers because I like to
work them over. So I think I think there needs
to be apology from the parent there, right, Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I mean I think there is just certain basic natural
rules in life, and one of them is definitely don't
get between a man and a sausage. That's what we've
Most people know that don't they. I mean, you learn
that from from a young age. Even if you're a kid,
you know that, don't You sort of went off the
(12:26):
rails of that. That's what happens with podcasts, really, doesn't
it Sometimes Sometimes it does derail things, which is why
I usually leave it to the end. It will give
me about twenty four hours to get things back on track,
and when I do, I'll see you back here again.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
To morrows us Talk talks it Bean for more from
News Talk said B. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said, b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glenn Hart, and we're
looking back Tuesday and that India FBA is how is
this not? It seems like this is the thing that
just never ever comes. Yeah, although it's all been signed
(00:44):
off now, it's still going to go through select committee
and still we're gonna anyway, we'll get into that again.
Mikey Schuman turns out to be well an idiot one
in zed stadium turns out to be fantastic, and we're
going to do some podcast roulette at the end. Thanks
Matta Tyler. I knew you'd come up with the goods
(01:05):
before any of that. It turns out where too old
and we're not having enough kids.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Oh no, Ittaly, Estonia, Turkey, I mean you name it,
South Korea, Japan, They've all tried to entice women couples
to have more babies and it's not working. So I
don't know. I mean, I certainly talking to couples in
(01:32):
their mid thirties, they would have more children if they
felt they could afford them. Would zero income tax do
it for you? Low interest mortgages? Would that do it
for you? Is it an uncertain world that's putting you
off bringing children into it? What is it that has
(01:58):
meant that you have stopped at the children you have
or chosen not to have children at all? Is it
simply a matter of money? And when it comes to
enticing people to come and live here, sure, AI might
fix some other shortages, We're still going to need people
(02:20):
and we need to welcome them. Otherwise we really will
just be a poorly serviced retirement village at the bottom
of the South Pacific, and that's all we will be.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I feel partly to blame because I've made it very
well known that all I have ever wanted to do
is retire. That's what my whole working life has been
about to get myself in a position to retire as
sooner the better. And if everybody has that attitude, we
are going to be it'screw, don't we News talk Z been.
(03:00):
Hopefully we can just fill our country up with Indians
who want to run businesses and do the work because
we don't. Is that what the FDA is all about.
Is that what people are worried about. With the FDA,
it sounds like a great solution to be.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Their Trade department has pointed out that the thing excludes dairy,
so that's safe for them, along with other sensitive markets
that they're interested in. They like the fact that we
have conceded one hundred percent duty free access in key
manufacturing labor intensive industries. The Mint news site names checks, textiles, leather,
foot where, engineering goods, plastics, processed food, a whole bunch
(03:36):
of stuff here. Our primary industries are celebrating their wins too,
and that's the point that I think has been somewhat
lost in the last few months. Both sides win from
trade deals. You make some concessions, sure, but you get
some gains. Like any deal, it's not all one way traffic.
India is set to overtake Germany as the third world's
(03:57):
third largest economy. It's an absolute behemoth. It's massive. To
not jump on board would have meant missing the boat.
Most keybis can see the benefits from the or that
Goff and Clark, to their credit, did and signed with China.
Trump may be trying to sully the reputation of free trade,
but it hasn't dampened our spirits because we can see
(04:17):
the benefits. There's an argument to be made against NAFTA,
you know, affecting the rough belt workers in the US,
and you see that showing up at the polls. But
in this country the benefits have largely outweighed the costs.
And there will be costs, like with any deal, but
the net benefit is what we should be focused on.
To realize those benefits. The rains are now firmly in
(04:40):
the hands of business to do what it does best.
Our exporterers, our deal makers, our market specialists are already
on the blower, on the plane or in country trying
to get a slice of the action, and good luck
to them.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Ah. I can't begin to tell you how sick I
am of hearing about this, talking about this, and not
just doing this. Can we please, please, please, please please
stop finding reasons to complain about it?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Used talk Sippy so TV.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And zeb what the hell's going on over there? We've
got this whole stout with the PM not going on
breakfast anymore, and now Mikey Sherman turns out to be
a complete homophobe or something what's going on.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
I don't know how Mikey Sherman retains her job as
TVNZ's political editor after the revelation that she called another
journalist a homophobic slow slur starting with f at drinks
in Nikolailis's office last year. I mean, think about this, right,
If that was a cabinet minister who had used the
F word on somebody else who was gay, they would
lose their job. Andrew Bailey, for example, lost his job
(05:47):
for pulling a loser sign with his fingers on his forehead,
which is far less now. Obviously, it doesn't stop Mikey
being able to do her job. She can technically still
do it, but I don't know that she still has
the credibility to be able to do it, especially after
I told you about this incident, and then also that
it's not the only time she's had a verbal altercation
with another journalist in a drinking setter setting that has
(06:07):
shocked and has caused rumors to go around Wellington, and
especially after the incident last week where she knocked on
Stuart Smith's store the National Party MP, allegedly for ten
minutes at nine pint thirty at night. I do not envy,
TV and Z. In this situation, it is election year.
They've got two very hard choices. They can either tough
it out with her or they can get rid of her. Now,
(06:27):
if they tough it out with her, they're going to
have some trouble next time an MP gets themselves into
hot water defending Mikey Sherman holding that MP to account
when she has survived a slur that an MP would
not survive. But if they get rid of her an
election year, they need somebody in a hurry. And who
are they going to promote? Are they going to promote
her second in charge Benedict Collins? Is that going to
(06:48):
solve the problem? After the factor he shot himself in
the foot with the crime story Debarkle recently, I don't
enjoy I had a text earlier saying, what are you
trying to ruin her career? I don't enjoy saying this
about Mikey. I thought she was actually very good at
her job. Her analysis wasn't bad. I realized not everybody
loved her, but I actually enjoyed watching her. I also
don't enjoy that this is the second can show in
(07:08):
a row that I'm talking about another member of the
media hair, so we could look like this as competitive bitchiness.
What this actually is, though, is it's holding ourselves as
media to the same standards that we hold others, the
members of Parliament. If Andrew Bailey could not get away
with less, can Mikey Schuman honestly get away with this?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I would say absolutely she can't. I mean, come on, guys, look,
your game not that hard? Is it to just be
a normal, nice human being?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Surely? Okay?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Right? It's all everybody was talking about really over the weekend,
wasn't it? The five Super rugby games in three days
at the new Stadium. I just can't stop thinking about
the toilets. How did they keep the toiletsquen? Did they
keep the toilets going?
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Look, I think everyone I have not heard a bad
report about the sports event and christ Chitch over the weekend,
And part of me thought, oh, I hope there's not
some bad news stories. I hope there's not a riot
afterwards to get beer or something, because sometimes the people
(08:22):
sometimes a sense of occasion overwhelms people. But I have
not heard one spirit of bad information from Christchitch. So
well done, people. It was not one bad headline there
was no moan. There was nothing to state in the
pillar of christ Chich you've waited a long long time
to get and they've got it, and they're happy with it.
In fact, they're ecstatic with it. In fact, they're so
happy with it there and I'm now talking about it
(08:43):
as one of the country's great stadium. So I don't
know if that's a thing or not. But so if
you want to comment about that, if you've got more verdicts,
more thoughts about it. But yeah, everyone seems to have
said it's fantastic, So I haven't heard it, and I'm
not saying it's not like I'm saying I haven't anything
bad about it. Have you got anything bad to say
it about it? But no, I just want to hear
(09:03):
from you if you want to continue on that positivity.
From Friday and said Day and Sunday from christ Church,
everyone seemed to like the everything about the stadium, the
site lines, the someone was talking about how how good
it was, how how easy it was for everyone that left.
What would they call that down the clear out? Yeah,
people love the clear out, how quickly you could leave,
(09:25):
which was I've never heard that been as a plus
before cheapest creepers. We've left there quickly. But people love
the clear out, they love the food, they love the beer,
they loved everything about that. They loved the staff, they
love the fact that you could pay wave through in terminal.
So that was situation tickety.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Tic tic tic tic tic. So if they did manage
to keep the toilets clean, then that then poses the question,
how is it that so often you go to a
public toilet anywhere else in the country and they can't
keep those clean and they're not having five rugging matches
in three days? Have I become overly obsessed with this
podcast about trying to keep toilets clean? Maybe news talk
(10:02):
been so podcast Roulette, what a great way to end
the podcast. Matt and Tyler. So I've got this cat here.
It's called Matt Tramples kid at Sausage Sizzle. Is there
more to this or is that just literally what happened?
Let's find out. Let's let's spin that podcast Roulette. Barrel.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
I was waiting for a sausage and a sausage line, right,
I can't. I'm one of those people that can't go past.
And I think a lot of kiwis like this, right
when we see a sausage sizzle. Whatever we're doing, we
drop everything to join the kit.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
You can smell it from five hundred meters away and
you just slowly drift towards it.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
I don't care what the causes could be. Anything.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You just wante the sausage.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
It could be a cause that's actively working against me,
and I'll still go and buy a sausage.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Right.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
So I'm going to buy a sausage, and I'm in
the queue and I'm holding up my phone because there's
a QR code so you can pay while you're in
the queue, because you know, a lot of people don't
have cash now, and sausages with people don't want to
have to run an f POS machine or ever.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
So I'm doing that, and then there's a I don't
know this, but there's a kid, a little kid, like
a toddler behind me, and I sort of move and
I trip up it over the kid. Okay, so I go,
I go flying onto the ground over the kid and
the kid starts crying.
Speaker 8 (11:11):
Right, So you're down. The child was down, Yep.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
I'm pretty much down right yep. Not fully down, I
don't think, but just discombobulated and falling backwards and feeling
bad because the kids.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Got hurt, right, Yes, that's the situation.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
The kid starts crying, and so I immediately apologize to
the kid. The kid doesn't give me anything back, because
it's a kid, you know whatever, not at all. I
apologize to the dad. Dad doesn't say anything. Dad picks
up the kid looks at me, looks down at the kid,
and then so I apologize again, even though it's totally
not my fault, right, it's not my fault, and the
dad's giving me this.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
Think, Oh, I think you're the right here. If the
kid's running around your legs like some sort of border collie,
then the onus is on the father to say, hey, boy,
get out of people's legs, because you know there's no
melice there, right, It's not like you saw the kid
in the It's not like.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
I go around backing into toddlers because I like to
work them over. So I think I think there needs
to be apology from the parent there, right, Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I mean I think there is just certain basic natural
rules in life, and one of them is definitely don't
get between a man and a sausage. That's what we've
Most people know that don't they. I mean, you learn
that from from a young age. Even if you're a kid,
you know that, don't You sort of went off the
(12:26):
rails of that. That's what happens with podcasts, really, doesn't
it Sometimes Sometimes it does derail things, which is why
I usually leave it to the end. It will give
me about twenty four hours to get things back on track,
and when I do, I'll see you back here again.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
To morrows us Talk talks it Bean for more from
News Talk said B. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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