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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said b
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Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for
Thursday feels like a Friday. First of yesterday's news. I
am Glen Hart, and we're looking back at whatever day
is today. We're looking back at Wednesday, and Ryan's looking
across the ditch at the Aussie economy. We've got these
driver license changes and which will lead us into a
(00:46):
discussion about technology and cars and how that Entyler in
particular can't handle it. But before any of that, the
job's number was bad, not good. So that's bad, not good.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Most of the people who found work in the last
quarter are in part time work, though, which suggests that
employers are taking a chance here. They're not totally convinced
of the recovery just yet, at least not enough to
offer full time work, but they are confident enough to
take something of a chance.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I don't want to be pollyannash here and suggesting good
news where there isn't any, and trying to pretend things
are fine when they're not fine. I don't want to
do that. But I do think it is worth us
focusing on the good stuff in these numbers to give
this recovery a chance. There is enough stuff out there,
There are enough numbers out there now to suggest that
we are actually on the right side of things and
this recovery is happening. But there is still a wobble,
(01:36):
isn't there. When you talk to some businesses, they're still
unimpressed by what they're seeing come in the door. And
I just wonder if we're holding off a little here.
Maybe we've been spooked by the false dorm in twenty
twenty five and we want to make sure this is
actually the recovery that we believe it's going to be.
Maybe we're still unsure of what the Reserve Bank is
going to do. Maybe we want to get the feel
of Anna Bremer in her first go in a couple
(01:59):
of weeks from now before we start investing money. We
have good signs. We have consumer confidence, we have business confidence,
we have GDP growth, we have retail space and in growth.
We have improved manufacturing numbers. The list goes on, and
then add this the stuff under the unemployment number, add
that to the list, step back and assess what really
does look like a recovery if we just give.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
It the chance.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Really, I've been doing this job, whatever this job is,
I'll start again. I've been working at zb I've been
at newstalk ZEDB since two thousand and one, so, you know,
fear fear. Oh while I feel like we've never spent
so much time focusing on the minutiae of finance and
(02:43):
the economy and job stats and GDPs and interest rates
and god, it's boring news talk because of my experience.
You know, the economy comes right when it comes right,
goes bad when it goes bad. And to think that
we have that much control over it, I think as
(03:04):
I think we want to that nobody compared to say, Ah,
we don't really know. But regardless of that, it seems
like Auckland is a fleeing to the regions, lucky old regions, eh.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Unemployment and a ten year high and they reckon more
and more. Auckland is I in the exit and heading
for the regions, can't afford to live there. I think
they'll go somewhere else.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
I don't know if that's been you or that's something
that you've thought of or going to do, but always
curious about anyone that goes for a bit of a
geographical shift. South Island feels pretty buoyant. Southam feels pretty buoyant.
I'd be curious enough that's something you're thinking of doing,
or maybe it's something you've done that you got out of,
(03:57):
that you got out of Auckland and you've never looked back.
I think what happens for some people, they want to
get out of Auckland, but they also want to get
back in Auckland. If they are, getting out of Auckland
doesn't work for them, so they've got to try and
keep some sort of presence there, which becomes complicated. But
the stats say that there's been a twenty five percent
increase and Auckland applicants applying for jobs outside of Auckland,
(04:21):
so they are keener than they've ever been to relocate.
I would have thought of applying for a job, you
wouldn't say you're from Auckland. I'm sure a lot of
(04:44):
I'm sure for a lot of small companies in small
house it's the last thing they want is some Aukland
arriving telling them how much they sold their house for.
But anyway, haven't told the house caould they got to
go back.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Ye undred who'd won an Aucklander on their staff but
didn't have to have one. Only thing worse than an
Aucklander is an Australian. You talk si, they actually speaking
of Australians. Has their economy looking because I think they've
got they've got really bad inflation. It's going the wrong
(05:16):
direction as well.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Things get a little too spicy. They hike the rates.
They've just done a quarter of a percent, They're likely
to do another one next month. Labour has a very
generous system. You might have heard friends who've moved over
there talk about it. That gets Aussies into How's Its
first home buyers can get in with the ten percent.
This cash at the ready. Housing costs are partly driving
(05:37):
this inflation. No such thing as a free lunch. The
subsidies are also helping to drive house prices up, which
in places like Sydney, go and have a look. Melbourne
and even now Brisbane completely out of reach, not even
comparable to our big cities, especially now that ours have
come down a bit. Now the interest rate hikes that
these young new buyers are going to have to swallow
(05:59):
as the rates go up we'll leave an estimated one
point three million mortgage holders under stress. Roy Morgan says
that's thirty percent of more motgage holders in Australia Now.
Alba and Labor are overseeing near record highs of government
spending at the same time almost thirty percent of GDP.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Now.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
The problem is when the private sector runs up against
competition from the public sector, it can cause the whole
thing to fizz and bubble up to the point of overheating.
And overheating needs calling and calling causes pain. So the
next time that politicians on this side of the Tasman
telling you that more borrowing and spending will solve our problems,
ask them how much, from where, for what exactly? And
(06:40):
whether the spend carries an inflation risk or not.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Oh see, this is what I'm talking about. It sounds
like the most boring conversation ever. I'm not asking anybody
any of that stuff. I'm saying stuff like where there's
been weird lately, isn't it? And do you think the
all Blacks will ever have an actual coach again? And
stuff like that. Set How hard was it for you
(07:05):
to get your driver's license if you've got one? Because
over the years, they sort of tweak and fiddle around
with it, don't they. And I remember having to do
defensive driving lessons and stuff to move on from one
better than my license to the other. And but yeah,
I'm pretty sure I had to do two. They had
(07:27):
to do two tests. I feel like I only had
to do one. I can only remember one anyway. But
I know my eldest daughter she had to do too.
She failed on one or both of them. It's a process,
isn't it. Anyway, Hopefully it's a little bit simpler now.
Speaker 8 (07:47):
Chris Bishop explained about the zero alcohol rule. No learner
or restricted driver will be able to have a drop
of alcohol in their blood, and there'll be stronger oversight
of the training providers. N ZTA can suspend driver training
course providers if they think there's something if he going on.
So some good changes, but as the Driver Training Association
(08:12):
told Ryan Bridge this morning, it's a bit of a
mixed bag. I would like to have seen a few
more changes, like re sitting your license at sixty and
then eighty, like those who hold overseas drivers licenses having
to sit a full test on New Zealand roads. Our
roads are markedly different to those of other countries. Our
(08:33):
driving conditions are markedly different. So I would like to
see anyone who holds an overseas driver's license having to
sit a driver's license here, like having to reset your
license or go to traffic school if you're pulled over
for three driving offenses in a certain timeframe. I think
we should have been tougher. It's a privilege, not a right,
(08:55):
to be on our roads. I do like some of
the changes, but I really would have liked to have
seen the government go further.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
This conversation makes me a bit uneasy. It's a bit
like when we talk about lowering or raising the drinking age,
and most of the people who talk about it are like,
you know, fifty plus, so it's almost irrelevant to them.
I feel like that, like that with the driver's licensed thing,
and I don't want to ever have to do another
driving test ever again. But it is amazing how some
(09:26):
people are so allowed to drive. So I guess something
has to be done. I just don't want it to
be done to me, you know what I'm saying. News
talk Ze been just while we're on cars, Matt and Tyler.
We're talking about modern cars and how they're different from
older cars. And then this happened, and I sort of
(09:50):
can't believe it.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
We're talking about unnecessary design, innovation and new vehicles.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Absolute bollocks, says Matthew. I'm driving a twenty twenty miss
in Navara and it has keyless entry and a push
button start. I don't think you can get a car.
You can't get a new car now that doesn't have
a pushback button start.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
I've never seen one, not for a new vehicle. What's
the what was the reason for it? Did they think
it was going to be just more efficient for people
to just jump in and press a button? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
What is the rationale around that?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
I mean, there might be some security features?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Maybe it is.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
Yeah, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You know, how to hot wire a car? Is it
easier to hot wire a car when it has a
barrel ignition?
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:30):
Come on?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Through cars that turn themselves off just as the light
goes green er. Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure. Maybe
there's a feature where I can turn that off of
my car, but I don't. When I pull up the lights,
it turns the engine off.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
Why that is so frustrating, and that text is completely
right that you try and keep it running because you
know the light's going to go green. As soon as
it goes green, the car decides and now I'm just
going to shut off to save some.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Fuel or whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Try and keep it running.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
Just try and keep the foot on the acceleras so
I chuck it in neutral and just try and give
it some revs to say, don't you bloody shut down?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Now?
Speaker 7 (11:01):
I need you in a minute.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I don't quite understand what the problem is. I used
to not like the auto of thing, and it used
to frustrate the hell out of it because you can
I've never had a car that had it that didn't
have a button to turn it off. The annoying thing
is you do have to push that button every time
you get it. So do they not know that they've
(11:23):
got that button. There are a lot of buttons and cars,
and sometimes it does take a When I buy a car,
I usually spend a bit of time when I first
get in it to familiarize myself as all the buttons.
Maybe those guys don't Maybe there are cars out there
that have the auto off and you can't turn it off.
It would be good to be able to turn it
(11:43):
off permanently. I think we have to blame the Europeans
for that. It's up with that sort of thing. It's
often the EU have made a rule and then it's
implicted on everybody else. But I've done a bit of
experimenting because I thought must use a lot more gas.
(12:05):
That they have to stop and start your car all
the time doesn't seem to make much if it's in
my experiment thing, so I just leave it on. There's
I would think. I do feel like that must we
are the bits that make your car go out, like
if you're standing and stopping more often, and you know,
dramatically more often, especially if you're driving on traffic. So yeah,
(12:30):
I do find it a bit annoy but like I say,
just turn it off when you get them the car.
That's what I do, and I don't want it on.
Are you listening Mett and Tyler? I feel like if
they were, if they listened a bit more to this podcast,
they wouldn't go wrong quite so much. But what can
you do? I guess you can listen to the show
and then ring them up and set them straight. I
(12:50):
am Glen Hart. I'm just doing my part, just try
and set Met and Tyler straight. It's basically the purpose
of this podcast. And I'll be back again, not tomorrow
because we've all got a day off, except for those
of us who work. I'll see you.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Manual For more from News Talk set B listen live
on air or online, and keep our shows with you
wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for
Thursday feels like a Friday. First of yesterday's news. I
am Glen Hart, and we're looking back at whatever day
is today. We're looking back at Wednesday, and Ryan's looking
across the ditch at the Aussie economy. We've got these
driver license changes and which will lead us into a
(00:46):
discussion about technology and cars and how that Entyler in
particular can't handle it. But before any of that, the
job's number was bad, not good. So that's bad, not good.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Most of the people who found work in the last
quarter are in part time work, though, which suggests that
employers are taking a chance here. They're not totally convinced
of the recovery just yet, at least not enough to
offer full time work, but they are confident enough to
take something of a chance.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I don't want to be pollyannash here and suggesting good
news where there isn't any, and trying to pretend things
are fine when they're not fine. I don't want to
do that. But I do think it is worth us
focusing on the good stuff in these numbers to give
this recovery a chance. There is enough stuff out there,
There are enough numbers out there now to suggest that
we are actually on the right side of things and
this recovery is happening. But there is still a wobble,
(01:36):
isn't there. When you talk to some businesses, they're still
unimpressed by what they're seeing come in the door. And
I just wonder if we're holding off a little here.
Maybe we've been spooked by the false dorm in twenty
twenty five and we want to make sure this is
actually the recovery that we believe it's going to be.
Maybe we're still unsure of what the Reserve Bank is
going to do. Maybe we want to get the feel
of Anna Bremer in her first go in a couple
(01:59):
of weeks from now before we start investing money. We
have good signs. We have consumer confidence, we have business confidence,
we have GDP growth, we have retail space and in growth.
We have improved manufacturing numbers. The list goes on, and
then add this the stuff under the unemployment number, add
that to the list, step back and assess what really
does look like a recovery if we just give.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
It the chance.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Really, I've been doing this job, whatever this job is,
I'll start again. I've been working at zb I've been
at newstalk ZEDB since two thousand and one, so, you know,
fear fear. Oh while I feel like we've never spent
so much time focusing on the minutiae of finance and
(02:43):
the economy and job stats and GDPs and interest rates
and god, it's boring news talk because of my experience.
You know, the economy comes right when it comes right,
goes bad when it goes bad. And to think that
we have that much control over it, I think as
(03:04):
I think we want to that nobody compared to say, Ah,
we don't really know. But regardless of that, it seems
like Auckland is a fleeing to the regions, lucky old regions, eh.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Unemployment and a ten year high and they reckon more
and more. Auckland is I in the exit and heading
for the regions, can't afford to live there. I think
they'll go somewhere else.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
I don't know if that's been you or that's something
that you've thought of or going to do, but always
curious about anyone that goes for a bit of a
geographical shift. South Island feels pretty buoyant. Southam feels pretty buoyant.
I'd be curious enough that's something you're thinking of doing,
or maybe it's something you've done that you got out of,
(03:57):
that you got out of Auckland and you've never looked back.
I think what happens for some people, they want to
get out of Auckland, but they also want to get
back in Auckland. If they are, getting out of Auckland
doesn't work for them, so they've got to try and
keep some sort of presence there, which becomes complicated. But
the stats say that there's been a twenty five percent
increase and Auckland applicants applying for jobs outside of Auckland,
(04:21):
so they are keener than they've ever been to relocate.
I would have thought of applying for a job, you
wouldn't say you're from Auckland. I'm sure a lot of
(04:44):
I'm sure for a lot of small companies in small
house it's the last thing they want is some Aukland
arriving telling them how much they sold their house for.
But anyway, haven't told the house caould they got to
go back.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Ye undred who'd won an Aucklander on their staff but
didn't have to have one. Only thing worse than an
Aucklander is an Australian. You talk si, they actually speaking
of Australians. Has their economy looking because I think they've
got they've got really bad inflation. It's going the wrong
(05:16):
direction as well.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Things get a little too spicy. They hike the rates.
They've just done a quarter of a percent, They're likely
to do another one next month. Labour has a very
generous system. You might have heard friends who've moved over
there talk about it. That gets Aussies into How's Its
first home buyers can get in with the ten percent.
This cash at the ready. Housing costs are partly driving
(05:37):
this inflation. No such thing as a free lunch. The
subsidies are also helping to drive house prices up, which
in places like Sydney, go and have a look. Melbourne
and even now Brisbane completely out of reach, not even
comparable to our big cities, especially now that ours have
come down a bit. Now the interest rate hikes that
these young new buyers are going to have to swallow
(05:59):
as the rates go up we'll leave an estimated one
point three million mortgage holders under stress. Roy Morgan says
that's thirty percent of more motgage holders in Australia Now.
Alba and Labor are overseeing near record highs of government
spending at the same time almost thirty percent of GDP.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Now.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
The problem is when the private sector runs up against
competition from the public sector, it can cause the whole
thing to fizz and bubble up to the point of overheating.
And overheating needs calling and calling causes pain. So the
next time that politicians on this side of the Tasman
telling you that more borrowing and spending will solve our problems,
ask them how much, from where, for what exactly? And
(06:40):
whether the spend carries an inflation risk or not.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Oh see, this is what I'm talking about. It sounds
like the most boring conversation ever. I'm not asking anybody
any of that stuff. I'm saying stuff like where there's
been weird lately, isn't it? And do you think the
all Blacks will ever have an actual coach again? And
stuff like that. Set How hard was it for you
(07:05):
to get your driver's license if you've got one? Because
over the years, they sort of tweak and fiddle around
with it, don't they. And I remember having to do
defensive driving lessons and stuff to move on from one
better than my license to the other. And but yeah,
I'm pretty sure I had to do two. They had
(07:27):
to do two tests. I feel like I only had
to do one. I can only remember one anyway. But
I know my eldest daughter she had to do too.
She failed on one or both of them. It's a process,
isn't it. Anyway, Hopefully it's a little bit simpler now.
Speaker 8 (07:47):
Chris Bishop explained about the zero alcohol rule. No learner
or restricted driver will be able to have a drop
of alcohol in their blood, and there'll be stronger oversight
of the training providers. N ZTA can suspend driver training
course providers if they think there's something if he going on.
So some good changes, but as the Driver Training Association
(08:12):
told Ryan Bridge this morning, it's a bit of a
mixed bag. I would like to have seen a few
more changes, like re sitting your license at sixty and
then eighty, like those who hold overseas drivers licenses having
to sit a full test on New Zealand roads. Our
roads are markedly different to those of other countries. Our
(08:33):
driving conditions are markedly different. So I would like to
see anyone who holds an overseas driver's license having to
sit a driver's license here, like having to reset your
license or go to traffic school if you're pulled over
for three driving offenses in a certain timeframe. I think
we should have been tougher. It's a privilege, not a right,
(08:55):
to be on our roads. I do like some of
the changes, but I really would have liked to have
seen the government go further.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
This conversation makes me a bit uneasy. It's a bit
like when we talk about lowering or raising the drinking age,
and most of the people who talk about it are like,
you know, fifty plus, so it's almost irrelevant to them.
I feel like that, like that with the driver's licensed thing,
and I don't want to ever have to do another
driving test ever again. But it is amazing how some
(09:26):
people are so allowed to drive. So I guess something
has to be done. I just don't want it to
be done to me, you know what I'm saying. News
talk Ze been just while we're on cars, Matt and Tyler.
We're talking about modern cars and how they're different from
older cars. And then this happened, and I sort of
(09:50):
can't believe it.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
We're talking about unnecessary design, innovation and new vehicles.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Absolute bollocks, says Matthew. I'm driving a twenty twenty miss
in Navara and it has keyless entry and a push
button start. I don't think you can get a car.
You can't get a new car now that doesn't have
a pushback button start.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
I've never seen one, not for a new vehicle. What's
the what was the reason for it? Did they think
it was going to be just more efficient for people
to just jump in and press a button? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
What is the rationale around that?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
I mean, there might be some security features?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Maybe it is.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
Yeah, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You know, how to hot wire a car? Is it
easier to hot wire a car when it has a
barrel ignition?
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:30):
Come on?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Through cars that turn themselves off just as the light
goes green er. Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure. Maybe
there's a feature where I can turn that off of
my car, but I don't. When I pull up the lights,
it turns the engine off.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
Why that is so frustrating, and that text is completely
right that you try and keep it running because you
know the light's going to go green. As soon as
it goes green, the car decides and now I'm just
going to shut off to save some.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Fuel or whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Try and keep it running.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
Just try and keep the foot on the acceleras so
I chuck it in neutral and just try and give
it some revs to say, don't you bloody shut down?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Now?
Speaker 7 (11:01):
I need you in a minute.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I don't quite understand what the problem is. I used
to not like the auto of thing, and it used
to frustrate the hell out of it because you can
I've never had a car that had it that didn't
have a button to turn it off. The annoying thing
is you do have to push that button every time
you get it. So do they not know that they've
(11:23):
got that button. There are a lot of buttons and cars,
and sometimes it does take a When I buy a car,
I usually spend a bit of time when I first
get in it to familiarize myself as all the buttons.
Maybe those guys don't Maybe there are cars out there
that have the auto off and you can't turn it off.
It would be good to be able to turn it
(11:43):
off permanently. I think we have to blame the Europeans
for that. It's up with that sort of thing. It's
often the EU have made a rule and then it's
implicted on everybody else. But I've done a bit of
experimenting because I thought must use a lot more gas.
(12:05):
That they have to stop and start your car all
the time doesn't seem to make much if it's in
my experiment thing, so I just leave it on. There's
I would think. I do feel like that must we
are the bits that make your car go out, like
if you're standing and stopping more often, and you know,
dramatically more often, especially if you're driving on traffic. So yeah,
(12:30):
I do find it a bit annoy but like I say,
just turn it off when you get them the car.
That's what I do, and I don't want it on.
Are you listening Mett and Tyler? I feel like if
they were, if they listened a bit more to this podcast,
they wouldn't go wrong quite so much. But what can
you do? I guess you can listen to the show
and then ring them up and set them straight. I
(12:50):
am Glen Hart. I'm just doing my part, just try
and set Met and Tyler straight. It's basically the purpose
of this podcast. And I'll be back again, not tomorrow
because we've all got a day off, except for those
of us who work. I'll see you.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Manual For more from News Talk set B listen live
on air or online, and keep our shows with you
wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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Betrayal Season 5
Saskia Inwood woke up one morning, knowing her life would never be the same. The night before, she learned the unimaginable – that the husband she knew in the light of day was a different person after dark. This season unpacks Saskia’s discovery of her husband’s secret life and her fight to bring him to justice. Along the way, we expose a crime that is just coming to light. This is also a story about the myth of the “perfect victim:” who gets believed, who gets doubted, and why. We follow Saskia as she works to reclaim her body, her voice, and her life. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at betrayalpod@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.