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August 4, 2026 13 mins

FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) Too Late to Change Now/Lesser of Many Evils/Cold, Innit?/Pietalk ZB

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we're
looking back at Tuesday. People keep talking about the Opportunities Party.
Why are they doing that? Oh, that's right, because it's
an election that don't worry. Kerry's here to tell us
who to vote for. There is some cold weather at

(00:45):
the moment. It's almost like it's winter and pie time.
I think the Pie Awards are sort of it's sort
of pie Awards season and my mouth watering already. But
before any of that, more rumblings about the leader of
the National Party, you know, the guy who's in charge
of well all of us really.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I'm still of the view that the coalition will be
re elected. The the makeup of the cabinet, though, is
what they're now fighting for. That's why over the past
week we've seen the biggest dust ups between the three
parties currently sitting on the treasury benches. When was the
last time you heard anything or from to party Mardi
The lefts being quite fascinated by and in top or

(01:26):
opportunities they now call themselves. In some ways this is
a function of the media oxygen. Fighting, albeit with gloves on,
between coalition partners is quite newsworthy. Punch too hard and
the thing could collapse before we make it through the
next ninety five days. Punch too soft and you might
not make it out the other side. On November seventh,
the Right is battling for the same group of voters

(01:50):
Luxe and ruling out Top was an attempt to pull
some formerly Blue voters back to the mothership, but their
polling is still at a point where they would lose
some big names Goldsmith Bishop Potentially if things don't turn around,
the fundamentals i e. The economy and how we feel
about it won't change dramatically in the next few months.

(02:12):
So this is now a battle of wills. Who has
the stamina, who has the discipline not to blow it
and go off course on the campaign? Will the Nats
pull a Hail Mary Jacinda last moment move and roll
Luxen for fear that his foot and mouth disease strikes
again and they lose even more of that soft center
That is going to be a question that will keep

(02:34):
being asked until probably something changes.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
So you don't want to lose your soft center. I'm
a bit of a sucker for a self center as
long as it's not caramel. I don't like CARAMELO. I
don't know why I'm not that keen on caramel, like
just about everything else.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
I mean, even like.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Cream egg you know whatever that is. You know you
can get that and a chocolate we used to be
able to mean is that just an ease of that happens?

Speaker 4 (03:03):
That's like sickly sweet.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
But there's just something about caramel that I'm not hugely into.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
I don't know why I started talking about that. News
talk Z been trying to get things back on track.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Andrew Dickens wanted a word about Sirien Taylor and who
he said that he's going to vote for.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
He even suggests that in fact, Winston Peters has all
the power in this current coalition government and not Christopher
luxA in the National Party. So he's disillusioned about them
as well, and so he's starting to say I'm flirting
with the Opportunities Party because they want to have a conversation.
That's in fact what their leaders said. I want to

(03:45):
have conversation. The leader said, I want to get away
from tribalism. And Ian has found himself hacked off with
the Labor Party, hacked off with the National Party, hacked
off with the whole even Pete thing.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
He's been quite.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
Bigarbed by the Opportunities Party, which is wanting to have
a conversation.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Now.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
The problem I have with that is that you don't
just vote for a party because they ate the other
two parties who in charge either or right the way
through from the last forty years. You don't vote for
someone because you don't want to vote for someone else.
You vote for that person because of the policies they
have and the Opportunities Party as soon as they mentioned
the Universal Benefit, I went, while I'm out. I've read

(04:24):
about the Universal Benefit for thirty years. I don't believe
it's going to work. Economists say it's not going to work.
Then they added on to that a land tax, and
I went, well, that's not going to work either. In fact,
this is all as we've seen in the costing. It's
going to cost the country an enormous amount of money.
So I'm not voting for top. It's a sideshow, you know,
it's just it's getting some press. But I was amazed

(04:47):
at Ian Taylor, like too many New Zealand voters actually
votes for people who aren't the people he doesn't like anymore,
and that's his only reasoning.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, it does seem to be the trend, doesn't it.
I mean, I guess it's I mean, it's how we
ended up with Trump, wasn't it? Because people had kind
of had enough. They wanted something else, anything else. You're
just put the voting for anything else. Have I told
you about my theory that if you don't vote, that
you count as well I have, Well, I'm going to

(05:19):
say it again. I think that you should have the
right to not vote, and that vote should be counted
and every those numbers get added into the MMP system
and whatever percentage of people not voting, they say, you know,
what's the average.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Voting in an election?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Seventy percent or something, So you immediately you get rid
of thirty percent of the politicians. How on you can't
tell me.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
That's not a good scheme. You've talk sippy anyway.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I think Kerry Woulden wants you to vote. Who does
she think you should vote for? Are we supposed to
do with that.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
And if I'm going to have a difficult minor party
and a coalition or sitting on the benches, I'd rather
have young people there then a bunch of old men
who represents self interest in dog whistle politics, Like how
on earth can you have Winston Peters doing a brilliant
job as Foreign Affairs Minister and then he turns into

(06:15):
a foaming racist an election year. It's because he's hope,
like is there If he was racist to his core,
you'd be like, Okay, well, yeah he's But he's not.
He's just appealing to racists because he knows that's where
he'll get his votes. He knows is he knows that
there will be a lot of people who vote for

(06:37):
New Zealand first because they don't like others. I mean, probably,
as far as I'm concerned, reason will prevail. I'm doing
the Which party dot enz almost weekly, which helps he
sort out her to vote for. I'm looking at the
ministers in the coalition government and comparing them to their

(06:59):
counterparts on the left, and the vast majority of government
ministers arehead and shoulders above the alternative and my mind,
but I do not think I have ever felt less inspired,
less hopeful about an election ever.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
So there you go. That's and that's right there, that's
encapsulated the issue, isn't it. I mean, that's what everybody's
feeling like. Nobody's inspired, nobody is enthusiastic.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
So let's not have it, get rid of it. Let's
do something else completely.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Don't just vote for another party that you've probably got
a bunch of wacky ideas but you haven't really looked
into it.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
But you're just voting for them because they're different to
what you've voted for before. Vote for nothing.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
That's that's what I'm campaigning for this year, right, So,
cold but cold, getting colder this week apparently, you know,
like happens in winter. Why do we are we talking
about this sort of thing more than ever before, complaining
about oh it's a bit cold but wet, bit dry

(08:15):
but hot.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
I do remember Toka getting up in the morning for
a first one one morning and the water in the
bottom of the bowl was frozen.

Speaker 7 (08:24):
That's disappointing. Well, it's better than the other way around.
On the frozen Yeah, yeah, you know, on that sticking around.
That's the thing as well. I think I think you know,
if your house is designed for where you are.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
That's good.

Speaker 7 (08:43):
And you know, I grew up in Dunedin, and as
I keep saying, but I feel like a lot of
the houses in Dunedin were built like they were going
to be in California or something. They just put the
and it was like people were in admissing how cold
it was and so there wasn't the central heating, there
wasn't the insulation because people are kind of living in
a fantasy that it wasn't that cold. But if you

(09:04):
live in a really cold places like people that live
in Canada, right, yeah, you have to have your your
winter game sorted out and then you're then you're super cozy.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, look at the sweetish and the finish. I've got
it sorted.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
But you also had an outside toilet, mate, heath, I
mean that takes it to the next level.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (09:18):
Yeah, that's not great that there's no doom scrolling and
an outside toilet and Dunedin and winter you're you're you're.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
Ready to go as soon as you walk out the
door of the house.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, you're running for it, right, you.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Get the job done, you sert doing so. Yeah, some
quality high class radio there of course the irony is
the colder you get, the more you feel like you
need to go to the loaf.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Isn't it that that can happen? So it's sort of
a vicious circle. And now they've dragged me down to
their level. This is what happens. We should never have
let those guys on here news talk right. Pie time.
The pies came in last week. It was Pie Day,
the best day of the year.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
So bakeels who run the Pie Awards, they send them
boxes of pies every year around the Pie Awards time
to try and get at a tub of city of
data on the Breakfast show. On the Mic Husking Breakfast,
we used to bring up the when I think we've

(10:23):
got a bit sick Ofette and stopped doing and they
still seem the pies. Don't tell them that we're not
doing that anymore because I still want at least one pie,
because I don't really eat pies anymore. I used to,
but I realized they were part of the large number
of things that seem to be slowly killing me. So

(10:44):
you know, I'm just I'm not allowed them, but I
do allow one a year when it's Pie Day. It's
a great day. So what I'm saying is let's just
keep it between us and I.

Speaker 8 (10:56):
I need a lot of them, and I got the kids,
and quite often if you're traveling with the kids, they
need something in a hurry. The pie are we are
my kids, you know, they know the and I make
them a lot of pies. So I'm curious to know
what you're pie of twenty twenty six was the best.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Pie you've had?

Speaker 8 (11:13):
Yeah, And funnily enough, I'll tell you later on what
I think my pie of the year is going to be,
because I mean, I have formulated a few views of
pies and the number one, my number one thing that

(11:33):
I need to say about pies that it's taken me
a long time to realize, and that is the fact
that all pies are delicious. People always got to pist well,
gee it was good. Pretty well, every pie is delicious.
Once in a while, you'll get a gas station one
that could be sort of a fish, bacon and the eggs,

(11:54):
sort of a one that's full of a sort of
a roue that's sort of white in an emic that's
not good, but pretty well, New Zealand meat, New Zealand pastry.
All pies are delicious, So I want to know what
your pie of twenty twenty six is, the one you've
that's transformed you. We've all had one, whether it be
one at the Z gas station, or whether it be
a gourmet twelve dollars one or a hyped one, whether

(12:17):
it be the fifty dollars crayfish one from Hamner Springs.
What's your pie of twenty twenty six, Because funnily enough,
I reckon my pie of the year is the Copeland's
Vegean mince a dollar eighty. God, that's going to be
the people's pie. How could they put a pie out
that cheaply? Always good kids at Rugby don't complain. Beautiful

(12:37):
thing tastes like a pie?

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Is a pie a dollar eighty It's got to be
a south One thing, doesn't it. I can't believe that
there is still.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
A pie that you can buy for a dollar eighty,
And if you can, I'm pretty sure that those aren't vegetables.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
And that is a mince it's in it. It still
sounds delicious, So I am a glen Hart. That was
my piecast for another day. Sorry podcast, I'll see you
back with more delicious tidbits free tomorrow.

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