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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am ben Hart and we're
looking back at Monday. Marcus wants a word, a bit
of a random word on dangerous dogs, actually the issue
of cultural guidelines and our defense force. But first up
(00:49):
the yeah, the move on order that that was the
thing that really.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Took for the.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
News conversation by storm yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We do work in the city and we clean buildings
and bits and pieces, and sometimes at four o'clock in
the morning, you've got to get there and it's homeless
around and I feel sorry for them, you don't get
me wrong, and some people are just struggling, but it's
hard to get in there and clean and you can't
move them on. And you know, we did a building
the other day and we end up cleaning up the
(01:20):
urine and the feace. He's on the ground. It's a
real stinch smell. You know, it's not nice. But you know,
I listened to Mark Mitchell this morning, and you know,
it's not about finding people. It's about helping them out.
So but it needs to change and it's good what
the government's doing well, Mark Mature and them are doing
so yeah, support it, but you know we can't give
up on these people as well. But be nice, be
(01:43):
nice to do something.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Do you do you find are you you're the people
you work with intimidated? Find yourself being intimidated at all
by these people when you have to do the clean.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Look, there's some fruitcakes out there, don't get me wrong,
and there one in a million, but a lot of
these people, you know, Yeah, there's one case where there's
a mother and a child in the street, you know,
you know you've got to feel sorry for them. Yeah, no, no,
not not really. There's the odd nussery out there. But
these people are suffering. You know that you don't know
(02:15):
what the situation are and they do need help. But
in the same businesses need to operate and things need
to change, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
So you you think that what will happen here is
that police will have the power to approach someone because
they are you know, they're they're in the area when
they can't be and as a result, they will be
able to move them to social services and then get
the help that they need. You think that that's all
it will play out well, hopefully.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So Interestingly, that guy's name was Brian, and normally we
run a pretty strict no Brian's on air policy as
it be, He's got through that somehow, and he actually
sounded reasonable. I mean, he does want these people moved on.
I don't know if he got strong ideas on where
(03:09):
they're going to be moved on to. That's the big question,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
News talk Ze.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Ben Carrie Woodham? Has you got any ideas where they're
going to move these people too? Just move them on,
keep going on.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
The agencies, the social agencies are the ones who should
be trying to help them. Some of them won't be helped,
and if they're committing crimes, move them on. None of
us should have to put up with abuse and intimidation,
nor deal with the filth created by other people, no
matter how damage they are. So I'm really torn. As
(03:50):
the police say, if we're moving on the rough sleepers,
who's responding to your burglary? Well, Steve, actually, at the moment,
nobody is very few. You don't get an instant police
response at the moment anyway, So it's not like you're
going to be souddenly dragged away from my burglary to
(04:11):
move a rough sleeper on. Something had to be done.
I quite agree. You just can't have the kind of
fighting nakedness foulness anywhere. Nobody should have. Nobody should have
to put up with that, least of all people who
are getting up early and trying to make a living
(04:35):
and the customers who are trying to support them shouldn't
have to deal with that sort of nonsense either. But
at the same time, we need agencies to help those
who want help, who would like to be helped, who
would like to live in a home, And if that's
the agencies not doing their job, then get onto them
rather than leave it to the police to do the
(04:55):
mopping up.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yet again, it's the nakedness that's one of the things
that always stopped me in my tracks. I mean, I
saw a guy being spoken to by a policeman the
other day at a bus stop, no shirt, no shoes.
(05:20):
He had that look about him that he'd elected to
go shirtless and shoeless. You just get a vibe sometimes,
don't you us talk Although that's a dangerous area, isn't it.
I mean, my vibe might be right, might be wrong.
How do you know when somebody as homeless or just
a bit shabby? People often tell me I look like
(05:41):
a homeless person when I've.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Got the outfit wrong.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Sort of forget that there are other people who should
also be considered in this conversation. The people who run
the shops that these disruptive characters lie outside. The people
who get hassled by rough sleepers who are off their
face sometimes, who then start avoiding certain parts of town
so they can avoid people who are that badly off
their face. The people who pay the rates in whatever
(06:05):
town they live in, and therefore should be able to
enjoy the nice things in their town, the cafes, the waterfront,
their CBD, whatever it is that they want to enjoy.
These people that I'm talking about are not insignificant, and
their desire to enjoy their town, their need to run
a business, is not insignificant. It should certainly shouldn't be
pushed aside without regard in what appears to be an
(06:27):
opinion that rough sleepers can camp wherever they want, impacting
whoever they want, and we simply need to tolerate it.
Because they're vulnerable. If we are all going to live
together in these towns and cities, it is fair that
there are expectations on all of our behavior, and I
think that that includes the expectation that rough sleeping, drug taking,
and intoxication are taken away from high traffic areas so
(06:49):
that the rest of us can enjoy those high traffic
areas that often we pay for. Now, as I say,
I am not without sympathy for the people who will
be moved on by the police. I realize that they
are vulnerable. They are, but we cannot have unlimited tolerance
for the negative impacts of their behaviors on others.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, okay, well, I mean I guess doing something about
it as better than doing nothing about it. But like
I said, I'm still not entirely clear where these people
are going to be moved on. To watch this space
and hopefully there will be a space, a clean space
without somebody who's abusing people and standing there shirtless and shoeless.
(07:30):
Last week there was a lot of dog attack talk
for obvious reasons. I think that Marcus has still been
ruminating on that.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
I've certainly worked walked for miles and miles and miles
around cities in this country and very rarely, and all
suburbs in all towns very rarely, if ever. Have I
ever had any problem with dogs outside properties? Almost never.
Occasionally you see them, but not often. So something have
(08:08):
gone right. I mean, they're much better than and goodness,
I can remember. I shouldn't say goodness. I mean it
sounds ungenuine. If you were a child of the seventies,
you'd go to school and all the neighborhood dogs would
follow you, and there would be dogs at school all
(08:30):
the time that the Pound would come and collect. You
don't have that anymore. The dogs are a lot better
hows than they once were. But the breeds have changed too.
In those days, you only bad dogs were Alsatians. And
then now, of course you've got the much stronger dogs
that no one quite knows what they're fororet lthough people
(08:52):
say they're lovely dogs. But I mean, there's all sorts
of lovely dogs, aren't there? The ones that can pull
three hundred kilograms on a sled?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Did that ever happen?
Speaker 8 (09:05):
Do you reckon that?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Marcus was followed to all by packs of dogs, and
then the Pound came and got them. It sounded like
it happened at least once a week.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
The way he.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Where was this, I feel like I'm kind of a
similar age to Marcus. I don't know that for sure.
I don't know that it's a generational thing. I don't
recall that ever happened to me.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
News talk.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
We're going to finish up here with a bit of
Andrew Dickens. Ryan Bridge wasn't on deck yesterday. Andrew Dickens was,
even though he came in and forgot all his passwords
and he sort of wandered around like it was somebody
else's fault for a bit. But I don't think anybody
was start to make sympathy because I think you should
(09:52):
just remember your past word, shouldn't you. Anyway, that's neither
here nor there. He had this to say.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
The Defense Force has always used Mary Takanger to build cohesiveness.
They used the hacker to bring the forces together. It's
a war dance, after all, and they're in the business
of war. They used color kir and other tea kung
of Maori a lot, because a lot of Maori serve
in the Defense Forces proportionately more than any other segment
of the population. It's part of the Defense Forces organizational
(10:19):
identity because the culture is unique to New Zealand and
therefore beneficial and bonding the team. And when you serve
in a multinational military overseas, this differentiates us from all
the other grunts who have the guns. We're New Zealand
soldiers and we're a little bit different. The question is
whether all this multicultural woke stuff detracts from making us
(10:39):
fighting fit.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Well.
Speaker 8 (10:41):
I'd like to see David Seymour say that to a
Maori sas officer. They will say they're fighting fit and look,
we've had race based military before the Maori Battalion and
they made us proud and the world took notice. The
military has always embraced Maori culture because they see it
as a strength and not a weakness. And it's only
performative politicians in their shiny suits in election year that
(11:04):
sees Mari culture in the Defense Force as a problem
and possible vote winner. And I mean, ask any of
the one hundred and fifty thousand people who went to
the Edinburgh Military Tattoo over the weekend, as they will
tell you that Mary stuff is well liked and is
respected and looking at my social media feed, I can
tell you that a lot of people, former Defense Force
people are a little bit angry at this one.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I do feel like you run the risk of being
a bit dog whistley with this sort of stuff, because
it's sort of easy to whip up.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
A bit of.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Angst about TODAYO and Kwiata and all that sort of stuff.
I think Andrew made some radicosibly good points in there,
is that it's always been a part of I don't
think it is new, is it. I think a bit of.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
What did you call it?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Mari stuff? And that Defense Force. I mean, personally, I'm
not into it. I don't identify massively with it. I
don't identify with any kind of culture. I have no
idea really where my ancestry originates from, and that probably
(12:29):
makes me a lesser person. Probably is that the main
reason I wouldn't join the Defense Force. No, because I
think wars are stupid and if nobody joined defense forces
there wouldn't be any That's the main reason. But certainly
it doesn't help. If I had to learn a whole
lot of that Maori stuff, as Andrew called it there,
(12:51):
I'd probably go from a different job. So yeah, I
don't I mean You're either happy with it or you're
not happy with it. I think you know going in,
don't you. Maybe you don't gosh this end but went
on a long time. Are you still with me?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
If you are, otherwise I'll see you back here again tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Either way.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Use Talking Talking z it Bean for more from US
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am ben Hart and we're
looking back at Monday. Marcus wants a word, a bit
of a random word on dangerous dogs, actually the issue
of cultural guidelines and our defense force. But first up
(00:49):
the yeah, the move on order that that was the
thing that really.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Took for the.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
News conversation by storm yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We do work in the city and we clean buildings
and bits and pieces, and sometimes at four o'clock in
the morning, you've got to get there and it's homeless
around and I feel sorry for them, you don't get
me wrong, and some people are just struggling, but it's
hard to get in there and clean and you can't
move them on. And you know, we did a building
the other day and we end up cleaning up the
(01:20):
urine and the feace. He's on the ground. It's a
real stinch smell. You know, it's not nice. But you know,
I listened to Mark Mitchell this morning, and you know,
it's not about finding people. It's about helping them out.
So but it needs to change and it's good what
the government's doing well, Mark Mature and them are doing
so yeah, support it, but you know we can't give
up on these people as well. But be nice, be
(01:43):
nice to do something.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Do you do you find are you you're the people
you work with intimidated? Find yourself being intimidated at all
by these people when you have to do the clean.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Look, there's some fruitcakes out there, don't get me wrong,
and there one in a million, but a lot of
these people, you know, Yeah, there's one case where there's
a mother and a child in the street, you know,
you know you've got to feel sorry for them. Yeah, no, no,
not not really. There's the odd nussery out there. But
these people are suffering. You know that you don't know
(02:15):
what the situation are and they do need help. But
in the same businesses need to operate and things need
to change, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
So you you think that what will happen here is
that police will have the power to approach someone because
they are you know, they're they're in the area when
they can't be and as a result, they will be
able to move them to social services and then get
the help that they need. You think that that's all
it will play out well, hopefully.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So Interestingly, that guy's name was Brian, and normally we
run a pretty strict no Brian's on air policy as
it be, He's got through that somehow, and he actually
sounded reasonable. I mean, he does want these people moved on.
I don't know if he got strong ideas on where
(03:09):
they're going to be moved on to. That's the big question,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
News talk Ze.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Ben Carrie Woodham? Has you got any ideas where they're
going to move these people too? Just move them on,
keep going on.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
The agencies, the social agencies are the ones who should
be trying to help them. Some of them won't be helped,
and if they're committing crimes, move them on. None of
us should have to put up with abuse and intimidation,
nor deal with the filth created by other people, no
matter how damage they are. So I'm really torn. As
(03:50):
the police say, if we're moving on the rough sleepers,
who's responding to your burglary? Well, Steve, actually, at the moment,
nobody is very few. You don't get an instant police
response at the moment anyway, So it's not like you're
going to be souddenly dragged away from my burglary to
(04:11):
move a rough sleeper on. Something had to be done.
I quite agree. You just can't have the kind of
fighting nakedness foulness anywhere. Nobody should have. Nobody should have
to put up with that, least of all people who
are getting up early and trying to make a living
(04:35):
and the customers who are trying to support them shouldn't
have to deal with that sort of nonsense either. But
at the same time, we need agencies to help those
who want help, who would like to be helped, who
would like to live in a home, And if that's
the agencies not doing their job, then get onto them
rather than leave it to the police to do the
(04:55):
mopping up.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yet again, it's the nakedness that's one of the things
that always stopped me in my tracks. I mean, I
saw a guy being spoken to by a policeman the
other day at a bus stop, no shirt, no shoes.
(05:20):
He had that look about him that he'd elected to
go shirtless and shoeless. You just get a vibe sometimes,
don't you us talk Although that's a dangerous area, isn't it.
I mean, my vibe might be right, might be wrong.
How do you know when somebody as homeless or just
a bit shabby? People often tell me I look like
(05:41):
a homeless person when I've.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Got the outfit wrong.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Sort of forget that there are other people who should
also be considered in this conversation. The people who run
the shops that these disruptive characters lie outside. The people
who get hassled by rough sleepers who are off their
face sometimes, who then start avoiding certain parts of town
so they can avoid people who are that badly off
their face. The people who pay the rates in whatever
(06:05):
town they live in, and therefore should be able to
enjoy the nice things in their town, the cafes, the waterfront,
their CBD, whatever it is that they want to enjoy.
These people that I'm talking about are not insignificant, and
their desire to enjoy their town, their need to run
a business, is not insignificant. It should certainly shouldn't be
pushed aside without regard in what appears to be an
(06:27):
opinion that rough sleepers can camp wherever they want, impacting
whoever they want, and we simply need to tolerate it.
Because they're vulnerable. If we are all going to live
together in these towns and cities, it is fair that
there are expectations on all of our behavior, and I
think that that includes the expectation that rough sleeping, drug taking,
and intoxication are taken away from high traffic areas so
(06:49):
that the rest of us can enjoy those high traffic
areas that often we pay for. Now, as I say,
I am not without sympathy for the people who will
be moved on by the police. I realize that they
are vulnerable. They are, but we cannot have unlimited tolerance
for the negative impacts of their behaviors on others.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, okay, well, I mean I guess doing something about
it as better than doing nothing about it. But like
I said, I'm still not entirely clear where these people
are going to be moved on. To watch this space
and hopefully there will be a space, a clean space
without somebody who's abusing people and standing there shirtless and shoeless.
(07:30):
Last week there was a lot of dog attack talk
for obvious reasons. I think that Marcus has still been
ruminating on that.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
I've certainly worked walked for miles and miles and miles
around cities in this country and very rarely, and all
suburbs in all towns very rarely, if ever. Have I
ever had any problem with dogs outside properties? Almost never.
Occasionally you see them, but not often. So something have
(08:08):
gone right. I mean, they're much better than and goodness,
I can remember. I shouldn't say goodness. I mean it
sounds ungenuine. If you were a child of the seventies,
you'd go to school and all the neighborhood dogs would
follow you, and there would be dogs at school all
(08:30):
the time that the Pound would come and collect. You
don't have that anymore. The dogs are a lot better
hows than they once were. But the breeds have changed too.
In those days, you only bad dogs were Alsatians. And
then now, of course you've got the much stronger dogs
that no one quite knows what they're fororet lthough people
(08:52):
say they're lovely dogs. But I mean, there's all sorts
of lovely dogs, aren't there? The ones that can pull
three hundred kilograms on a sled?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Did that ever happen?
Speaker 8 (09:05):
Do you reckon that?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Marcus was followed to all by packs of dogs, and
then the Pound came and got them. It sounded like
it happened at least once a week.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
The way he.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Where was this, I feel like I'm kind of a
similar age to Marcus. I don't know that for sure.
I don't know that it's a generational thing. I don't
recall that ever happened to me.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
News talk.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
We're going to finish up here with a bit of
Andrew Dickens. Ryan Bridge wasn't on deck yesterday. Andrew Dickens was,
even though he came in and forgot all his passwords
and he sort of wandered around like it was somebody
else's fault for a bit. But I don't think anybody
was start to make sympathy because I think you should
(09:52):
just remember your past word, shouldn't you. Anyway, that's neither
here nor there. He had this to say.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
The Defense Force has always used Mary Takanger to build cohesiveness.
They used the hacker to bring the forces together. It's
a war dance, after all, and they're in the business
of war. They used color kir and other tea kung
of Maori a lot, because a lot of Maori serve
in the Defense Forces proportionately more than any other segment
of the population. It's part of the Defense Forces organizational
(10:19):
identity because the culture is unique to New Zealand and
therefore beneficial and bonding the team. And when you serve
in a multinational military overseas, this differentiates us from all
the other grunts who have the guns. We're New Zealand
soldiers and we're a little bit different. The question is
whether all this multicultural woke stuff detracts from making us
(10:39):
fighting fit.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Well.
Speaker 8 (10:41):
I'd like to see David Seymour say that to a
Maori sas officer. They will say they're fighting fit and look,
we've had race based military before the Maori Battalion and
they made us proud and the world took notice. The
military has always embraced Maori culture because they see it
as a strength and not a weakness. And it's only
performative politicians in their shiny suits in election year that
(11:04):
sees Mari culture in the Defense Force as a problem
and possible vote winner. And I mean, ask any of
the one hundred and fifty thousand people who went to
the Edinburgh Military Tattoo over the weekend, as they will
tell you that Mary stuff is well liked and is
respected and looking at my social media feed, I can
tell you that a lot of people, former Defense Force
people are a little bit angry at this one.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I do feel like you run the risk of being
a bit dog whistley with this sort of stuff, because
it's sort of easy to whip up.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
A bit of.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Angst about TODAYO and Kwiata and all that sort of stuff.
I think Andrew made some radicosibly good points in there,
is that it's always been a part of I don't
think it is new, is it. I think a bit of.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
What did you call it?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Mari stuff? And that Defense Force. I mean, personally, I'm
not into it. I don't identify massively with it. I
don't identify with any kind of culture. I have no
idea really where my ancestry originates from, and that probably
(12:29):
makes me a lesser person. Probably is that the main
reason I wouldn't join the Defense Force. No, because I
think wars are stupid and if nobody joined defense forces
there wouldn't be any That's the main reason. But certainly
it doesn't help. If I had to learn a whole
lot of that Maori stuff, as Andrew called it there,
(12:51):
I'd probably go from a different job. So yeah, I
don't I mean You're either happy with it or you're
not happy with it. I think you know going in,
don't you. Maybe you don't gosh this end but went
on a long time. Are you still with me?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
If you are, otherwise I'll see you back here again tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Either way.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Use Talking Talking z it Bean for more from US
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