May 5, 2026 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) Well, There WAS This One Time.../Medicine Is Actually Quite Complicated/Who Should Keep Us Safe?/Mad Max Is Now/Marriage Advice
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart. We're looking
back at Tuesday. Either word about pharmacies, Kerry wants a
word about water safety, Andrew wants a word about dirt bikers,
and Ryan wants a word about marriage.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
So it's a.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Real I get the impression that everybody's just a little
bit sick of talking about some of the other stuff
that's just been going on and on and on lately,
you know, like immigration policy and the National Party leadership
and the Iran War. We're over that stuff. It was
time to mix it up, and so I'm going to
let Marcus mix it up first. Is it all over
(01:07):
for MMP? Well, no, it isn't, because they've tried to
make that happen a couple of times, and when it
came down to it, we decided it was all right.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Really, I don't necessarily know that we're going to get
rid of it. I don't know if you know, if
we've got the chance, but could we have a considered
and calm discussion about that. We've had MMP since ninety six.
(01:38):
It didn't get a good start because a whole lot
of New Zealand first people got in that people didn't
think were very very good and they're not. Much has changed.
So yeah, it's all been about New Zealand first. Really
(01:59):
two votes of course, one for local MP, one for
the party.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Are you happy with it?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
So that's the question makes it more complex and we
seem to spend a year of three talking about who's
going to go with who. Of course, no one ever
won anything in the old days. First passed the post
you have Social Credit, they'll be up at about twenty
(02:28):
and they'd never get any seats. The Values Party would
never get much. Was always just Labor National. Then suddenly
MMP came along and we boy had all sorts of
minor parties in parliament.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
He's not right about Social Credit never having any seats,
by the way, I think they did get up to
two at one stage. And the only reason I know
that is that I used to live in Rangatiki, which
was Bruce Beatham's seat, and he was the leader of
Social Credit. This is well before I was old enough
(03:04):
to vote, so I didn't really understand what any of
that was about.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
News talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Those were the days living a fielding under them, the
posts watch of social credits. I'm quite sure what social
credit ever did for me anyway, And boy, imagine how
important the community pharmacy was back in those days.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Most of us would choose to go to them for
a prescription if we could, rather than go to our
gps who are chokker and we can't get in, And
rather than stand in line with twenty five other people
at the chemist warehouse, we would just go to our
local one in the line of two people. And just
as I picked up my phone to leave this tea date,
the alert came through. Seymour says, pharmacists should treat more
so you don't need to see a GP. How's that
(03:51):
for serender biddy ex proposal would allow pharmacists to prescribe
antibiotics for chest or ear infections, more pain relief or
ointments for skin infections, provide skin lesion triage and monitoring,
and manage long term medication for appropriate patients, and order
blood tests for those patients. Talking about people who are
in things like statins or diabetes, medications which they're going
(04:13):
to have to be on for the rest of their lives.
And it's basically just to prevent them having to go
to see the doctor every twelve months to get the
same thing represcribed, which is going to inevitably happen. Actors
bang on with this idea. This is not radical at all.
Pharmacists in other countries are trusted to prescribe things like
antibiotics for strep. I mean, most of us, you and
I can look at a chest infection and go, you
(04:33):
know what I think that is? That's a chest infection.
So if we can do it, I suspect pharmacists who
have all of that medical training will be able to
do it relatively accurately, don't you. My only question is
why we have to wait for November for something like this,
which is just abundant common sense, when act can surely
do this now ahead of this winter.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Interesting, This whole charge on ahead fast track thing.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I think you have to be a bit careful that.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I think there is a bit of training involved. I know,
I was at my doctor yesterday and was asking about
the whole twelvemonth prescription thing, and he was saying yes, yes,
everybody's been asking for this, and I could see the
(05:22):
light go out in his eyes as I'd brought it up,
of course, and people had been asking for this since
last year. Of course it didn't actually come into effect
until February this year. And as he rightly pointed out,
you can't just do it automatically, like if people are
taking medication for a thing that might get better or
(05:43):
might get worse, you can't just prescribe them a year's
worth of drugs and hope for the best. It's a
bit more complicated than that. Health is quite complicated, as
it turns out, which might be why they make people
go to university for so long before they can become doctors.
Qu's talk so water safety. Apparently Auckland in particular is
doing some weird things with some of the life checket rules,
(06:06):
and only Kerry would have seems to have noticed.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
And every single boaty I know has really strict rules
around their boat. When the kids go on board, they
understand that the captain's in charge, you follow the rules.
What he or she says goes, and life jackets and
compulsory for everybody. It's not just for the kids and
the adults. Don't wear them. Everybody wears them. I understand
(06:34):
people want to go to hell in their own way,
but I can also really understand the frustration of first
responders and coastguard who have to deliver the news to
people back on shore that because the person they loved
(06:54):
was willful and obstinate and refused to believe that they
were mortal, they're not going to be with them ever again. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the But I'd love
to get your feedback on this one. To me, it
seems a no brainer. And I'm sure if you're that
(07:14):
sort of boaty you'd be like, how can you not
How can you not insist that people stay safe? It's
not an honorous burden these days. So do you just
leave people to, like I say, go to hell on
their own way?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Ah? So hard, isn't it. I mean, we we do
draw the line sometimes, don't we. Like seat belts, for example,
you know, we decided that having people, you know, fly
out of the front windscreen of their car every time
they have a bit of a praying was a bad idea,
and that we better make seat belts compulsory and then
enforce that rule. But perhaps we should have just let
(07:52):
people do what they want. I wonder what the road
toll figures would.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Look like if we had use your city.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
If we speaking of road safety, now we've moved on
from water safety. What's with this dirt biker epidemic that
used to be going on?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Dirt bikers everywhere?
Speaker 7 (08:16):
Apparently the Taba Mutu pelice are doing a great job
of getting them off the street. They have a dirt
bike court and they've been getting a few convictions there
and slowly that the problem is being solved. Mike, how
would you solve the problem?
Speaker 8 (08:29):
Mate? God, solve the problem? Would you all get cut
off our bloody lords to start work? Or a joke?
But I forgot kid turning out beyond the funny dirt
bikes on the wrong side of the road, what happens
if you run these fastest over.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
You get into very big trouble.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
Mates, get the third of one on the wrong side
of the road.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
Mate, Yes, but if you actually hurt them and kill them, mate,
that's worse than them being on the wrong side of
the road.
Speaker 8 (08:54):
That's what's formal for our bloody lords.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Mates.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Yeah, I know, but you know if we all did that,
if we have vigilantes or they'll be murder and blood
running all down the street and then there'll be retribution.
And you want to look, Hey, I totally understand where
you're coming from.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
So caller Mike there pretty worked up. Seems to be
advocating a sort of a man Mac style. Ah, what
would you call that world dystopian future? Is it dystopian
if it actually just happens, you know, logically inevitably, just
(09:35):
you know, we would just run each other off the
road because we're a bit annoyed. Apparently Dickens was being
flooded with texts and people suggesting even worse things than
then what Mike was suggesting there, I must say, And
it's not just dirt bikes either. I know I've complained
this about this before. And my old man get off
(09:57):
my lawn style. Those kids on the electric bikes that
look like dirt bikes, they've got to go. I don't
mean they've got to go permanently, you know what. Don't
mean like Mike's style, permanently. I just mean something needs
to be done, not a mad Max something. I want
to make that quite clear. News talk ze been so
(10:21):
are we're going to finish up here with these stats
that have come out about marriage, how many people are
doing it, how many people keep doing it after, how
long they stay doing it, and then how many people
have decided not to do it anymore. Here's Ryan, he's married.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
What are your chances of getting divorced? The new stats
in z numbers were interesting for a couple of reasons. One,
fewer people are getting hitched. In twenty twenty five it
was seven point six marriages per one thousand people. That's
half the rate it was in the year two thousand.
In nineteen seventy one, which was peak marriage, it was
forty five people per one thousand. So basically, fewer of
us are bothering to get married. I got friends who
(11:00):
are single, don't mind being single. That was far lea
succeptable in nineteen seventy one. Number two, we're getting married
later in life. We put a ring on it at
around twenty in nineteen seventy one. We now wait until
we're in our thirties, and I reckon this is part
of a bigger trend. People still live at home with
their parents when they're twenty five. This is common. They
(11:20):
go to UNI, they don't get proper jobs, until sometimes
they're in their late twenties or even early thirties. We're
living longer at the other end of life, and it
feels like we're kind of stretching out childhood a bit
at the beginning as well. Get a dog, live at home,
complain about house prices, marry later. Number three divorce the
most interesting part. If you're in a marriage and you're
wondering whether you might get a divorce, then I reckon
(11:41):
you probably will. Otherwise, why would you be thinking about
or worrying about it, you know what I mean? The
numbers tell us how long you're likely to be married
for how long you're married before you call it quits.
Five percent quit within five years, fifteen percent within ten years,
and a third within twenty five years. Here's the good news,
the news you should hope for. Sixty percent of couples
(12:04):
remain married for the rest of their lives, happily ever after,
Just like in the movies. A wise man once told me,
the best way to stay married is to just not
get divorced. And also the other thing you can do
is just admit to yourself that your spouse is right,
probably about just about everything. It's very hard sometimes to
(12:32):
do that. But yeah, it's my thirty winning anniversary this
year and probably for the last I don't know, twenty
nine years of that. Things have got a lot smoother
when I've just said no, no, I think you're right
about that. Sorry, I don't know what I was thinking.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'm going off to celebrate those thirty years for three
and a bit weeks. I know that seems excessive, but
I will be back very early next month. I'll see
you then.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart. We're looking
back at Tuesday. Either word about pharmacies, Kerry wants a
word about water safety, Andrew wants a word about dirt bikers,
and Ryan wants a word about marriage.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
So it's a.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Real I get the impression that everybody's just a little
bit sick of talking about some of the other stuff
that's just been going on and on and on lately,
you know, like immigration policy and the National Party leadership
and the Iran War. We're over that stuff. It was
time to mix it up, and so I'm going to
let Marcus mix it up first. Is it all over
(01:07):
for MMP? Well, no, it isn't, because they've tried to
make that happen a couple of times, and when it
came down to it, we decided it was all right.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Really, I don't necessarily know that we're going to get
rid of it. I don't know if you know, if
we've got the chance, but could we have a considered
and calm discussion about that. We've had MMP since ninety six.
(01:38):
It didn't get a good start because a whole lot
of New Zealand first people got in that people didn't
think were very very good and they're not. Much has changed.
So yeah, it's all been about New Zealand first. Really
(01:59):
two votes of course, one for local MP, one for
the party.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Are you happy with it?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
So that's the question makes it more complex and we
seem to spend a year of three talking about who's
going to go with who. Of course, no one ever
won anything in the old days. First passed the post
you have Social Credit, they'll be up at about twenty
(02:28):
and they'd never get any seats. The Values Party would
never get much. Was always just Labor National. Then suddenly
MMP came along and we boy had all sorts of
minor parties in parliament.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
He's not right about Social Credit never having any seats,
by the way, I think they did get up to
two at one stage. And the only reason I know
that is that I used to live in Rangatiki, which
was Bruce Beatham's seat, and he was the leader of
Social Credit. This is well before I was old enough
(03:04):
to vote, so I didn't really understand what any of
that was about.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
News talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Those were the days living a fielding under them, the
posts watch of social credits. I'm quite sure what social
credit ever did for me anyway, And boy, imagine how
important the community pharmacy was back in those days.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Most of us would choose to go to them for
a prescription if we could, rather than go to our
gps who are chokker and we can't get in, And
rather than stand in line with twenty five other people
at the chemist warehouse, we would just go to our
local one in the line of two people. And just
as I picked up my phone to leave this tea date,
the alert came through. Seymour says, pharmacists should treat more
so you don't need to see a GP. How's that
(03:51):
for serender biddy ex proposal would allow pharmacists to prescribe
antibiotics for chest or ear infections, more pain relief or
ointments for skin infections, provide skin lesion triage and monitoring,
and manage long term medication for appropriate patients, and order
blood tests for those patients. Talking about people who are
in things like statins or diabetes, medications which they're going
(04:13):
to have to be on for the rest of their lives.
And it's basically just to prevent them having to go
to see the doctor every twelve months to get the
same thing represcribed, which is going to inevitably happen. Actors
bang on with this idea. This is not radical at all.
Pharmacists in other countries are trusted to prescribe things like
antibiotics for strep. I mean, most of us, you and
I can look at a chest infection and go, you
(04:33):
know what I think that is? That's a chest infection.
So if we can do it, I suspect pharmacists who
have all of that medical training will be able to
do it relatively accurately, don't you. My only question is
why we have to wait for November for something like this,
which is just abundant common sense, when act can surely
do this now ahead of this winter.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Interesting, This whole charge on ahead fast track thing.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I think you have to be a bit careful that.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I think there is a bit of training involved. I know,
I was at my doctor yesterday and was asking about
the whole twelvemonth prescription thing, and he was saying yes, yes,
everybody's been asking for this, and I could see the
(05:22):
light go out in his eyes as I'd brought it up,
of course, and people had been asking for this since
last year. Of course it didn't actually come into effect
until February this year. And as he rightly pointed out,
you can't just do it automatically, like if people are
taking medication for a thing that might get better or
(05:43):
might get worse, you can't just prescribe them a year's
worth of drugs and hope for the best. It's a
bit more complicated than that. Health is quite complicated, as
it turns out, which might be why they make people
go to university for so long before they can become doctors.
Qu's talk so water safety. Apparently Auckland in particular is
doing some weird things with some of the life checket rules,
(06:06):
and only Kerry would have seems to have noticed.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
And every single boaty I know has really strict rules
around their boat. When the kids go on board, they
understand that the captain's in charge, you follow the rules.
What he or she says goes, and life jackets and
compulsory for everybody. It's not just for the kids and
the adults. Don't wear them. Everybody wears them. I understand
(06:34):
people want to go to hell in their own way,
but I can also really understand the frustration of first
responders and coastguard who have to deliver the news to
people back on shore that because the person they loved
(06:54):
was willful and obstinate and refused to believe that they
were mortal, they're not going to be with them ever again. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the But I'd love
to get your feedback on this one. To me, it
seems a no brainer. And I'm sure if you're that
(07:14):
sort of boaty you'd be like, how can you not
How can you not insist that people stay safe? It's
not an honorous burden these days. So do you just
leave people to, like I say, go to hell on
their own way?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Ah? So hard, isn't it. I mean, we we do
draw the line sometimes, don't we. Like seat belts, for example,
you know, we decided that having people, you know, fly
out of the front windscreen of their car every time
they have a bit of a praying was a bad idea,
and that we better make seat belts compulsory and then
enforce that rule. But perhaps we should have just let
(07:52):
people do what they want. I wonder what the road
toll figures would.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Look like if we had use your city.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
If we speaking of road safety, now we've moved on
from water safety. What's with this dirt biker epidemic that
used to be going on?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Dirt bikers everywhere?
Speaker 7 (08:16):
Apparently the Taba Mutu pelice are doing a great job
of getting them off the street. They have a dirt
bike court and they've been getting a few convictions there
and slowly that the problem is being solved. Mike, how
would you solve the problem?
Speaker 8 (08:29):
Mate? God, solve the problem? Would you all get cut
off our bloody lords to start work? Or a joke?
But I forgot kid turning out beyond the funny dirt
bikes on the wrong side of the road, what happens
if you run these fastest over.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
You get into very big trouble.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
Mates, get the third of one on the wrong side
of the road.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
Mate, Yes, but if you actually hurt them and kill them, mate,
that's worse than them being on the wrong side of
the road.
Speaker 8 (08:54):
That's what's formal for our bloody lords.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Mates.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Yeah, I know, but you know if we all did that,
if we have vigilantes or they'll be murder and blood
running all down the street and then there'll be retribution.
And you want to look, Hey, I totally understand where
you're coming from.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
So caller Mike there pretty worked up. Seems to be
advocating a sort of a man Mac style. Ah, what
would you call that world dystopian future? Is it dystopian
if it actually just happens, you know, logically inevitably, just
(09:35):
you know, we would just run each other off the
road because we're a bit annoyed. Apparently Dickens was being
flooded with texts and people suggesting even worse things than
then what Mike was suggesting there, I must say, And
it's not just dirt bikes either. I know I've complained
this about this before. And my old man get off
(09:57):
my lawn style. Those kids on the electric bikes that
look like dirt bikes, they've got to go. I don't
mean they've got to go permanently, you know what. Don't
mean like Mike's style, permanently. I just mean something needs
to be done, not a mad Max something. I want
to make that quite clear. News talk ze been so
(10:21):
are we're going to finish up here with these stats
that have come out about marriage, how many people are
doing it, how many people keep doing it after, how
long they stay doing it, and then how many people
have decided not to do it anymore. Here's Ryan, he's married.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
What are your chances of getting divorced? The new stats
in z numbers were interesting for a couple of reasons. One,
fewer people are getting hitched. In twenty twenty five it
was seven point six marriages per one thousand people. That's
half the rate it was in the year two thousand.
In nineteen seventy one, which was peak marriage, it was
forty five people per one thousand. So basically, fewer of
us are bothering to get married. I got friends who
(11:00):
are single, don't mind being single. That was far lea
succeptable in nineteen seventy one. Number two, we're getting married
later in life. We put a ring on it at
around twenty in nineteen seventy one. We now wait until
we're in our thirties, and I reckon this is part
of a bigger trend. People still live at home with
their parents when they're twenty five. This is common. They
(11:20):
go to UNI, they don't get proper jobs, until sometimes
they're in their late twenties or even early thirties. We're
living longer at the other end of life, and it
feels like we're kind of stretching out childhood a bit
at the beginning as well. Get a dog, live at home,
complain about house prices, marry later. Number three divorce the
most interesting part. If you're in a marriage and you're
wondering whether you might get a divorce, then I reckon
(11:41):
you probably will. Otherwise, why would you be thinking about
or worrying about it, you know what I mean? The
numbers tell us how long you're likely to be married
for how long you're married before you call it quits.
Five percent quit within five years, fifteen percent within ten years,
and a third within twenty five years. Here's the good news,
the news you should hope for. Sixty percent of couples
(12:04):
remain married for the rest of their lives, happily ever after,
Just like in the movies. A wise man once told me,
the best way to stay married is to just not
get divorced. And also the other thing you can do
is just admit to yourself that your spouse is right,
probably about just about everything. It's very hard sometimes to
(12:32):
do that. But yeah, it's my thirty winning anniversary this
year and probably for the last I don't know, twenty
nine years of that. Things have got a lot smoother
when I've just said no, no, I think you're right
about that. Sorry, I don't know what I was thinking.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'm going off to celebrate those thirty years for three
and a bit weeks. I know that seems excessive, but
I will be back very early next month. I'll see
you then.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
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