May 8, 2026 • 6 mins
Mysterious Kiwi musician Aldous Harding has released a new album.
Train on the Island is her fifth studio album and is filled with her trademark intricate style of lyricism, full of strange and unique turns of phrases.
Chris Schulz has been listening to the album, and joined Jack Tame to share his thoughts.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Venus Stalin's was sinking about.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Red trying.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Read Run in the Ages.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Stealin as thinking about.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Cher trying to Leaveland read Room Run in the Age.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Versus elds Harding. The song is Venus in the Sinea Zinia.
I think I'm saying that right, Venus in the Zenia
in the Her new album is Trained on the Island,
and Chris Sholtz Music Review has been.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Listening Yoda Kyoda Jack. Yeah, it's his yellow music mark.
There's so much name Split ends playing Spark Arena tonight
and tomorrow shows that are almost sold out, the Music
Awards at the end of the month. There are shows
and albums coming out everywhere. To me, it's all centered
around this new oldest Harding album. She is my favorite
New Zealand artist. She doesn't make a lot of music.
(01:24):
She sort of goes away and spends time by herself,
and then she comes back with like another perfect tense.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
She seems like an extremely interesting person, but.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
We don't know anything.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I think that's it.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I can tell you she lives in Wales. She used
to live in Littleton and her and Marlon Williams were
once together.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That's about all you know more than that.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, but that's the thing she led to.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Music is beautiful. She makes beautiful, beautiful, kind of thoughtful,
interesting music.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
But really intricate music. And so you listen to it. Yes,
it's it's delicious to listen to and it makes your
ears saying. And then when you start diving into it,
and you do need to die into it to try
and understand it, then that's when things get interesting. That's
when your lyrics start popping out. That's when you start
(02:12):
piecing things together. And she's just got this way with
words that just makes me melt into a puddle. Like
she'll just phrase something and then she'll come back to
it and maybe the inflection is just a little bit different.
Maybe she's just rephrased it a little bit and it
completely changes the tone. And so yeah, I read a
review yesterday of Trained on the Island that said, you
need to be like Molder and Scully. You need to
(02:33):
sort of be a forensic scientist. You need a notepad
and a magnifying glass and fingerprint dusting kit to try
and understand what she's doing. And It's true. I've been
listening to this album all week and I thought I
had it right, like train on the Island. It's such
a great metaphor for like going nowhere to the same
old stuff, And you know, I just thought, no, it's
(02:55):
not about that, because it's too on the nose for her,
like it's got to be about more. And so I
started listening and then I got more confused, but then
I fell in love with the music more. And so
it's that kind of magic trick. That's what she does
to you every time. She does it to you live too,
by the way, she has this way of pulling you in.
She is touring in November. I thoroughly recommend if you
(03:16):
haven't seen her live to go and go.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
And check her out.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
It's such an intense experience. You'll come out and confront
the crowd. She won't see anything. She'll just eyeball them
and expect them to be quiet. And I've been in
the crowd when she's done that for like two minutes,
just sat there staring at people in the front rows
and you're standing there kind of going, don't look at
me me. I also like I saw her play at
(03:41):
Womad which is like the most perfectly serene setting. There's
a motor around the stage, you're on a grass embankment.
And she played the bleakest hour of music I think
I've ever seen played live. And afterwards me and my
wife stood up and hugged and like checked in with
each other. We were like, are you okay? Everyone was
crying and doing the same thing, and we're like, what
do we do to recover? So we went and got donuts.
(04:02):
We sit in a donut queue and we're standing there
in Oldest Heart and God on the queue behind us,
and we couldn't talk to her. We were too scared
of her. But clearly she needed donuts. Yeah, to recover donuts.
So yeah, get a box of donuts and enjoy the
new Oldest Harding album this weekend. That's what you need
to go with.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
That amazing because she was friends with Nadia Reed at
school together. There you go, Logan Park High School and Donners,
they were friends together. How about that?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Okay, yeah, she's from that. Liz's got this amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, yeah, this is it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And then they almost everyone moved to Littleton and then
that was that was the that was the new scene. Yeah,
it is it does have an amazing kind of yeah,
you know, for whatever reason, it has been the home
for so many of our best and brightest musicians. So,
like you say, she's going to be touring later this
year November twenty fifth, twenty seven, twenty eighth, twenty ninth
(04:54):
in Hamilton, christ Auckland and Wellington. What did you give
train on the island as a whole?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It's not quite five, but it could be so right,
four and a half Okay, okay, it's totally just been released,
so I can come back.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, exactly, you can come back and give us a
five and two weeks if you want. Hey, while we've
got you. We were talking about expert before eleven o'clock
this morning, about this growing this idea to be streaming
concerts live into movie theaters in the US, and so
the idea is that the musician can interact with different
(05:28):
theater audiences around the country, I suppose potentially around the world,
So you could say.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Are you there, like, are you there Sylvia Park, give
me a woo, you know. And apparently these musicians are
going to be selling tickets for forty five dollars up
to about seventy five dollars and our texpert was wondering
who would be into this, and I said, you would
be the.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Person to ask, would you do that? Would you go
to a live because in a way you still have
a collective experience. Obviously if you're there in person, it's
a better thing you do.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
But I wouldn't want artists to be using that as
a crutch for not touring here. And I think that's
the that's definitely a trend. Like Taylor Swift and Billie
Eilish both released like movie films of the concert, yes,
and Billy I just just had one come out and
now she did famously didn't tour here on her last Yeah, yeah,
which thing's really unfair. I feel like that would be
great if they were also touring here. Yes, otherwise, so
(06:18):
it's an and not an and or Yeah otherwise. It's
a bit of a slap on the face for fans.
You know, you can't come to the show, but how
about sitting in a movie theater?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, how about you paying me fifty bucks in you Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Thanks?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah? Yeah, no, pea cool. Okay, We're gonna have a
bit more of a listen to train on the island
In a couple of minutes. Thank you so much, Chris,
have a great weekend. You can hear more from Cress,
of course, on his sub stack boiler Room.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live
to news talks I'd Be from nine am Saturday, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast
from News Talks at b.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Venus Stalin's was sinking about.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Red trying.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Read Run in the Ages.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Stealin as thinking about.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Cher trying to Leaveland read Room Run in the Age.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Versus elds Harding. The song is Venus in the Sinea Zinia.
I think I'm saying that right, Venus in the Zenia
in the Her new album is Trained on the Island,
and Chris Sholtz Music Review has been.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Listening Yoda Kyoda Jack. Yeah, it's his yellow music mark.
There's so much name Split ends playing Spark Arena tonight
and tomorrow shows that are almost sold out, the Music
Awards at the end of the month. There are shows
and albums coming out everywhere. To me, it's all centered
around this new oldest Harding album. She is my favorite
New Zealand artist. She doesn't make a lot of music.
(01:24):
She sort of goes away and spends time by herself,
and then she comes back with like another perfect tense.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
She seems like an extremely interesting person, but.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
We don't know anything.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I think that's it.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I can tell you she lives in Wales. She used
to live in Littleton and her and Marlon Williams were
once together.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That's about all you know more than that.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, but that's the thing she led to.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Music is beautiful. She makes beautiful, beautiful, kind of thoughtful,
interesting music.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
But really intricate music. And so you listen to it. Yes,
it's it's delicious to listen to and it makes your
ears saying. And then when you start diving into it,
and you do need to die into it to try
and understand it, then that's when things get interesting. That's
when your lyrics start popping out. That's when you start
(02:12):
piecing things together. And she's just got this way with
words that just makes me melt into a puddle. Like
she'll just phrase something and then she'll come back to
it and maybe the inflection is just a little bit different.
Maybe she's just rephrased it a little bit and it
completely changes the tone. And so yeah, I read a
review yesterday of Trained on the Island that said, you
need to be like Molder and Scully. You need to
(02:33):
sort of be a forensic scientist. You need a notepad
and a magnifying glass and fingerprint dusting kit to try
and understand what she's doing. And It's true. I've been
listening to this album all week and I thought I
had it right, like train on the Island. It's such
a great metaphor for like going nowhere to the same
old stuff, And you know, I just thought, no, it's
(02:55):
not about that, because it's too on the nose for her,
like it's got to be about more. And so I
started listening and then I got more confused, but then
I fell in love with the music more. And so
it's that kind of magic trick. That's what she does
to you every time. She does it to you live too,
by the way, she has this way of pulling you in.
She is touring in November. I thoroughly recommend if you
(03:16):
haven't seen her live to go and go.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
And check her out.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
It's such an intense experience. You'll come out and confront
the crowd. She won't see anything. She'll just eyeball them
and expect them to be quiet. And I've been in
the crowd when she's done that for like two minutes,
just sat there staring at people in the front rows
and you're standing there kind of going, don't look at
me me. I also like I saw her play at
(03:41):
Womad which is like the most perfectly serene setting. There's
a motor around the stage, you're on a grass embankment.
And she played the bleakest hour of music I think
I've ever seen played live. And afterwards me and my
wife stood up and hugged and like checked in with
each other. We were like, are you okay? Everyone was
crying and doing the same thing, and we're like, what
do we do to recover? So we went and got donuts.
(04:02):
We sit in a donut queue and we're standing there
in Oldest Heart and God on the queue behind us,
and we couldn't talk to her. We were too scared
of her. But clearly she needed donuts. Yeah, to recover donuts.
So yeah, get a box of donuts and enjoy the
new Oldest Harding album this weekend. That's what you need
to go with.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
That amazing because she was friends with Nadia Reed at
school together. There you go, Logan Park High School and Donners,
they were friends together. How about that?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Okay, yeah, she's from that. Liz's got this amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, yeah, this is it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And then they almost everyone moved to Littleton and then
that was that was the that was the new scene. Yeah,
it is it does have an amazing kind of yeah,
you know, for whatever reason, it has been the home
for so many of our best and brightest musicians. So,
like you say, she's going to be touring later this
year November twenty fifth, twenty seven, twenty eighth, twenty ninth
(04:54):
in Hamilton, christ Auckland and Wellington. What did you give
train on the island as a whole?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It's not quite five, but it could be so right,
four and a half Okay, okay, it's totally just been released,
so I can come back.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, exactly, you can come back and give us a
five and two weeks if you want. Hey, while we've
got you. We were talking about expert before eleven o'clock
this morning, about this growing this idea to be streaming
concerts live into movie theaters in the US, and so
the idea is that the musician can interact with different
(05:28):
theater audiences around the country, I suppose potentially around the world,
So you could say.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Are you there, like, are you there Sylvia Park, give
me a woo, you know. And apparently these musicians are
going to be selling tickets for forty five dollars up
to about seventy five dollars and our texpert was wondering
who would be into this, and I said, you would
be the.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Person to ask, would you do that? Would you go
to a live because in a way you still have
a collective experience. Obviously if you're there in person, it's
a better thing you do.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
But I wouldn't want artists to be using that as
a crutch for not touring here. And I think that's
the that's definitely a trend. Like Taylor Swift and Billie
Eilish both released like movie films of the concert, yes,
and Billy I just just had one come out and
now she did famously didn't tour here on her last Yeah, yeah,
which thing's really unfair. I feel like that would be
great if they were also touring here. Yes, otherwise, so
(06:18):
it's an and not an and or Yeah otherwise. It's
a bit of a slap on the face for fans.
You know, you can't come to the show, but how
about sitting in a movie theater?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, how about you paying me fifty bucks in you Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Thanks?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah? Yeah, no, pea cool. Okay, We're gonna have a
bit more of a listen to train on the island
In a couple of minutes. Thank you so much, Chris,
have a great weekend. You can hear more from Cress,
of course, on his sub stack boiler Room.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live
to news talks I'd Be from nine am Saturday, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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