May 8, 2026 • 13 mins
Frank Bunce is an All Blacks legend.
His 55-cap career spanned six seasons before he retired from the team at age 36 – the second oldest All Black in history.
While he was done with the black jersey, he wasn’t done with rugby, playing for the Chiefs as well as having a stint in Europe before hanging up his boots properly in 1999.
But that wasn’t the last time Kiwis saw him on the screen, as Bunce was one of the first contestants on Celebrity Treasure Island – all the way back in 2001.
This year sees him back on the Island for a second attempt at digging up the treasure, but what prompted his return?
“It’s not really the challenge,” he explained to Jack Tame.
“I don’t mind the challenge and all of that ... I think it’s the people, y’know, you enjoy yourself, you have the challenge.”
“It’s something totally different.”
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast
from News Talks at b Frank.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Buntz is a fifty five cap all Black legend, but
twenty seven years since he hung up his boots following
his career with the ABS and European with the Chiefs.
Of course, Frank is back on our screens playing a
very different game. It's his second attempt at digging up
some cash on Celebrity Treasure Island. He's been a quiet
(00:34):
achiever on the show so far.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
But I don't know. Could he be getting the winner's cut?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Who knows? He's with us in the studio this morning.
Call to Frank, Good morning, Good morning. It's so good
to see you. You're looking great for a man with
how many children?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Six children?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Six children, aging from what they're asked from forty to six.
You're looking incredibly rested for someone in your physicianation.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Well, actually, I've no, I've just come to grips with it,
you know. Yeah, you know, we had my daughter's moving
to us earlier, so we had a great afternoon over
the weekend, and you know, I'm just feeling good about everything.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Those Yeah, she's moved in Australia because just economic.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Reasons, the economic reasons.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Yeah, she's got four four kids, so four of my grandkids,
and her husband's a builder. Yeah, and worked right up
over here and he got offered a position over there,
and so basically, you know, they've got to go over
there and and do what they do.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
The story repeated how many tens of thousands of times
at the moment exactly CTI. So it is twenty five
years since you were last on them, Yeah, which is
just crazy to me because I remember watching that season
back in the day. Twenty five years Why would you
agree to go on this program again?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, it's not really the challenge, you know, I don't
mind a challenge in all of that.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Of course, I had fun, you know on that one day.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
It was in Fiji and yeah, a little bit different, Yeah,
a little bit different, and you know.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
There was it was a great cast. I don't think
it's the people. You know, you just you enjoy yourself.
You know, you have you have the challenge.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
It's it's something totally different, but you meet a whole
lot of new people, have fun, and you get paid.
You know, you're obviously not doing it for anything. But yeah,
I find nothing, sir. But you know, you get a
little money in your back pocket, you have this challenge,
you have a great experience, and you meet a whole
lot of new people, and you know, it just just
all worked.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Actually, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's funny because over the years, obviously the format has
largely stayed the same, but I feel like the I
don't know, maybe watching on Talley, it feels like the
hardship isn't quite as pronounced as it was in two
thousand and one. I don't know if it's a health
and safety thing. They're just like not allowed to starve
you like that. So what do you remember from two
thousand and one? How do you compare this season with
(02:57):
that season?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
It's hard to remember with twenty five year yeah, yeah,
but yeah I can't. I can't remember really being being hungry.
I think we might we might have had a little
bit of you know, a back door. Yeah yeah, yeah
back then, and there was certainly a night where we
(03:20):
had a few beers and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Okay, yeah, I don't remember seeing that.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
On television, but yeah, it wasn't Yeah, it was always fun.
You know, they're not they weren't as strict back then.
As as certainly they were in terms of especially, you know,
letting with your information and letting people know what you're
doing and you know, and things like that.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
It was like, don't tell you know such and such. Yeah,
you know. Now it's like sign this.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh no, you I mean you
can't get away any of the spoilers anything, right, Yeah,
You've got to sign all of the things, sign your
life away.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
We're gonna, yeah, we're And.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Everybody asks, you know, of course I'm getting people now
in the stroll what happened? You know?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
You can't tell me who? No, no, there must be
there must be a nightmare in.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Side of things.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's quite hard.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
It's quite hard, especially, you know, and you obviously you
have to tell your family and things where you're going,
and you know, yeah, yeah, and your your workmates or
your bosses or you know whatever. It is like, you've
got to tell them. You can't just say, oh, I'm
taking a couple of weeks off in the what are
you doing?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I can't tell you exactly. There's not many bosses that
put up with that, but it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I remember, I remember my friend Matt McLean did it
a few years ago and he was a huge, huge,
huge fan, like probably too much of a fan actually,
And so the first time he was on, because he
was on a couple of times, the first time, I
like timed how long, you know, I was trying to
work out how long he'd been away. And then the
(04:54):
second time he actually won it, and I remember he didn't.
He came back and I was like, how'd you go?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
How'd you go?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And he's like, oh, I can't really tell you. And
I was like, come on, bro, you can tell me,
you can tell me. And he's like, no, no, just you know,
I can't tell you. I can't tell you.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
And I was like okay.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And then he ended up winning and I was like, oh, yeah,
this is absolutely amazing. But he managed to surprisingly keep
the secret, and I can just I can only imagine
that when you get back and everyone works out you've
been on the show. Literally everyone is going, Frank, how
you exactly?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
You know? Yesterday I had two people.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yesterday, I'm sitting there having a couple of coffee in
a cafe and and people come.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Hey, did you know people? It's people?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
You know that is it's harder not to tell them. Yeah,
you know, you just turned it into a bit of
a laugh.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, I can't tell you to kill you Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
All that.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
But yeah, people you know are the ones that are like,
come on, man, you know, but is it is it
an emotional experience? Very actually, And it's amazing how quickly
it turns into, you know, into something we the best
moments were after all the cameras are gone and everything,
but you're sitting around, You've done your you know, you
(06:09):
have a lot of fun during the day.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It's a lot of emotion in that.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
But once the cameras are off and you've had your
rice and beans for dinner, you sit around a little campfire.
We just turned the you know, the guests gas bottle
on and turned it on and we just.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You know, set around and lasered around and just talked.
You know, we all talked about.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Our lives and our families and you know, and that
was it was an awesome part of you know, of
the whole process and the whole experience. But it's amazing
how quickly you you connect to people. Yeah, right, and
and it's huge. She said, what was her name that
left Miss New Zealand?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
She left after the first days. Yeah, and even.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Then, was it was really emotional, especially so for their team.
But you know, Polly went one by one by one,
you know, and and you've spent a lot of close
time with them, man, you know, there.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Were a lot of tears shed, there's a.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Lot of hugging and you know, just support and things
like that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
And well, dere I suggest for anyone who hasn't watched
this week's episodes, and here's your spoiler alert right now,
block your rears just for five seconds. So we've had
an especially emotional week because both David and Simon Barnett
had to pull out because of injury. In the same challenge,
they both I think one popped the card and one
popped a hammy or something like that, and the same
(07:35):
in the same episode, which was a remarkable thing. So Cahu,
the other team has been absolutely decimated, your team Takapu,
who seems to be doing incredibly well in terms of
the numbers at the stage, and you get the sense
that everyone kind of feels the emotional weight of those
eliminations and of people leaving. And I wonder if just
(07:57):
a part of it is that you get people together
who otherwise actually wouldn't cross paths. But you're kind of
with people who you probably would never meet otherwise.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Right, Actually that I've been telling people that where would
I cross paths with Louis Davis?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Would I Zion?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
You know, I've missed Zion Dale around the traps with
sports news and things like that, but and pieces, but
Louis live. You know, I knew Polly from and I
knew the Shorten the Street guys and stuff. But even
and even on the other team, you know, I kind
of knew all the faces and stuff like that, but
we didn't get to know them well.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
But still to meet people that you would.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Never and to and to spend intense amounts of time
with them to really get to know them, and kind
of you know, like you say, like you might have
bumped into Zion or you might have bumped into Porsche,
but you never it was unlikely that that for the
show you'd be sitting down for hours around a gas
cocker or a campfire chatting about each other's lives.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Right exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You and Porsche seemed to seem to really connect as well. Obviously,
you know, sort of she had experienced through rugby there,
but and she really like looked up to you.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Ah, I'd never met Porsche. You know, obviously knew of
her and.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
And that, and you know a lot of my my kids,
and you know a lot of people I know, especially
women's rugby and staff. So you know, everybody looked up
to her. And the best part was she came down.
I played rugby with her father and stuff like that.
I was sharing stories, you know about about playing against
her father and things like that.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And but you know, she's a lovely.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Person, really really caring, you know, and I was I
wasn't shocked. You know, she always comes across as as
a as a really nice human being. Everything with the group.
She didn't think she was any better than anybody. She
just came in and everything was about you know, huge competitive,
fierce competitor. But it was always team, team first. You know,
(09:49):
it had to be the team first. And I think
that's kind of where we clicked. But you know, you
think the same way. You know, we have a little chat,
you know, every now and then, what do you think,
you know, who we're going to do. And that was
part of the strategy, was you know, like you were
saying before, you know, they were decimated, but that was
you know, obviously Simon and David going out at the
(10:09):
same time. You know, it wasn't planned, but it certainly helped us. Yeah,
but you know, we were we were strategizing that we
would just knock them, just take them.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Off a little bit here, do something exactly.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Even when we took their the prize of the food
prize that they've won, and we hit the card and
we took it, I just know that that's going to
pay a mental game on it.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
It's a mental game. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, It's funny, like it feels like people sometimes they
go on the show expecting it just to be a
TV show, but they end up just getting into the
whole experience and in a much deeper way.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Than they had anticipated.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's the sense I get.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, and I think it's it's the closeness. You have
no contact with the outside world.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, so it's just.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
You, you know, you and your little group and them
and their little group, and the production crew and all
of that around as well.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
But you're just there.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
You don't know what's going on, you know, you don't
nobody gives you any news, you know, about anything that's happening.
Telephones are gone, things, communications gone. Yeah, So it's amazing.
You know what was amazing, was how well you ended
up sleeping. Really the first couple of nights. You know,
usually you're lying bed and you you know, on your.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Phone, you're making around.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Wake up in the middle of you know all of that.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
But after a while you just end up once you
got used to everybody's you know, noises, noises. Yeah, after
a while you sleep, you're hop in bed, lie back
and just you know, think about the day and it's
you know, everything was just good, and you just and
then wake up in the morning, say, jeez, that.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Was you know, it's like it was really surprising.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
So yeah, so you know it added you get up
in the morning and you feel good and until.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You have to have rice for breakfast. Well again again, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Not like the good old days when they're smuggling you a.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Few beers after the cameras.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah, you know, I remember back then too, because we're
on this island in Fiji.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You're out in the US.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, and these Fijians that lived over that way, they'd
always come and give us crabs and a little bit
of fish and oh how good.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, so none of that, there was none of that anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, it's about the book. Would you do it again?
I would actually would.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
You yeah, yeah, yeah, good man. It's so good to
see you on screen. So good to see you competing
again in twenty five years since that original experience must
be something.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Indeed, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
It'd be good. You have to get your six year
old to go back and watch that as well, the differences.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh no.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
We sit down and we watch the episodes, and some
of the guys are doing ads on TV and things
like that, so you know Livers doing that.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Oh yeah, she's doing that everywhere at the moment.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, you know, till he is my little daughter. Yeah,
every time that comes on to your dad.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Look this, there's your girl. There's your girl. There you
said you're my girl. Tell ye you're exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Oh good man. Well, we're loving watching you. Thank you
for agreeing to do it once again. I'm not going
to ask you if you when, but I'm always to
watch to see who's getting the winners edit, you know,
to deduce from the way the story is being told.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Obviously you're looking through a television person's eyes exactly exactly
the person.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, yeah, oh good man.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Well, thank you very much. On of course, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
TV and Z two, TV and Z plus Frank Mance,
good Luck, thank.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Buntz is a fifty five cap all Black legend, but
twenty seven years since he hung up his boots following
his career with the ABS and European with the Chiefs.
Of course, Frank is back on our screens playing a
very different game. It's his second attempt at digging up
some cash on Celebrity Treasure Island. He's been a quiet
(00:34):
achiever on the show so far.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
But I don't know. Could he be getting the winner's cut?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Who knows? He's with us in the studio this morning.
Call to Frank, Good morning, Good morning. It's so good
to see you. You're looking great for a man with
how many children?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Six children?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Six children, aging from what they're asked from forty to six.
You're looking incredibly rested for someone in your physicianation.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Well, actually, I've no, I've just come to grips with it,
you know. Yeah, you know, we had my daughter's moving
to us earlier, so we had a great afternoon over
the weekend, and you know, I'm just feeling good about everything.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Those Yeah, she's moved in Australia because just economic.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Reasons, the economic reasons.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Yeah, she's got four four kids, so four of my grandkids,
and her husband's a builder. Yeah, and worked right up
over here and he got offered a position over there,
and so basically, you know, they've got to go over
there and and do what they do.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
The story repeated how many tens of thousands of times
at the moment exactly CTI. So it is twenty five
years since you were last on them, Yeah, which is
just crazy to me because I remember watching that season
back in the day. Twenty five years Why would you
agree to go on this program again?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, it's not really the challenge, you know, I don't
mind a challenge in all of that.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Of course, I had fun, you know on that one day.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
It was in Fiji and yeah, a little bit different, Yeah,
a little bit different, and you know.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
There was it was a great cast. I don't think
it's the people. You know, you just you enjoy yourself.
You know, you have you have the challenge.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
It's it's something totally different, but you meet a whole
lot of new people, have fun, and you get paid.
You know, you're obviously not doing it for anything. But yeah,
I find nothing, sir. But you know, you get a
little money in your back pocket, you have this challenge,
you have a great experience, and you meet a whole
lot of new people, and you know, it just just
all worked.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Actually, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's funny because over the years, obviously the format has
largely stayed the same, but I feel like the I
don't know, maybe watching on Talley, it feels like the
hardship isn't quite as pronounced as it was in two
thousand and one. I don't know if it's a health
and safety thing. They're just like not allowed to starve
you like that. So what do you remember from two
thousand and one? How do you compare this season with
(02:57):
that season?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
It's hard to remember with twenty five year yeah, yeah,
but yeah I can't. I can't remember really being being hungry.
I think we might we might have had a little
bit of you know, a back door. Yeah yeah, yeah
back then, and there was certainly a night where we
(03:20):
had a few beers and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Okay, yeah, I don't remember seeing that.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
On television, but yeah, it wasn't Yeah, it was always fun.
You know, they're not they weren't as strict back then.
As as certainly they were in terms of especially, you know,
letting with your information and letting people know what you're
doing and you know, and things like that.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
It was like, don't tell you know such and such. Yeah,
you know. Now it's like sign this.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh no, you I mean you
can't get away any of the spoilers anything, right, Yeah,
You've got to sign all of the things, sign your
life away.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
We're gonna, yeah, we're And.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Everybody asks, you know, of course I'm getting people now
in the stroll what happened? You know?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
You can't tell me who? No, no, there must be
there must be a nightmare in.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Side of things.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's quite hard.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
It's quite hard, especially, you know, and you obviously you
have to tell your family and things where you're going,
and you know, yeah, yeah, and your your workmates or
your bosses or you know whatever. It is like, you've
got to tell them. You can't just say, oh, I'm
taking a couple of weeks off in the what are
you doing?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I can't tell you exactly. There's not many bosses that
put up with that, but it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I remember, I remember my friend Matt McLean did it
a few years ago and he was a huge, huge,
huge fan, like probably too much of a fan actually,
And so the first time he was on, because he
was on a couple of times, the first time, I
like timed how long, you know, I was trying to
work out how long he'd been away. And then the
(04:54):
second time he actually won it, and I remember he didn't.
He came back and I was like, how'd you go?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
How'd you go?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And he's like, oh, I can't really tell you. And
I was like, come on, bro, you can tell me,
you can tell me. And he's like, no, no, just you know,
I can't tell you. I can't tell you.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
And I was like okay.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And then he ended up winning and I was like, oh, yeah,
this is absolutely amazing. But he managed to surprisingly keep
the secret, and I can just I can only imagine
that when you get back and everyone works out you've
been on the show. Literally everyone is going, Frank, how
you exactly?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
You know? Yesterday I had two people.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yesterday, I'm sitting there having a couple of coffee in
a cafe and and people come.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Hey, did you know people? It's people?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
You know that is it's harder not to tell them. Yeah,
you know, you just turned it into a bit of
a laugh.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, I can't tell you to kill you Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
All that.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
But yeah, people you know are the ones that are like,
come on, man, you know, but is it is it
an emotional experience? Very actually, And it's amazing how quickly
it turns into, you know, into something we the best
moments were after all the cameras are gone and everything,
but you're sitting around, You've done your you know, you
(06:09):
have a lot of fun during the day.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It's a lot of emotion in that.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
But once the cameras are off and you've had your
rice and beans for dinner, you sit around a little campfire.
We just turned the you know, the guests gas bottle
on and turned it on and we just.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You know, set around and lasered around and just talked.
You know, we all talked about.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Our lives and our families and you know, and that
was it was an awesome part of you know, of
the whole process and the whole experience. But it's amazing
how quickly you you connect to people. Yeah, right, and
and it's huge. She said, what was her name that
left Miss New Zealand?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
She left after the first days. Yeah, and even.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Then, was it was really emotional, especially so for their team.
But you know, Polly went one by one by one,
you know, and and you've spent a lot of close
time with them, man, you know, there.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Were a lot of tears shed, there's a.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Lot of hugging and you know, just support and things
like that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
And well, dere I suggest for anyone who hasn't watched
this week's episodes, and here's your spoiler alert right now,
block your rears just for five seconds. So we've had
an especially emotional week because both David and Simon Barnett
had to pull out because of injury. In the same challenge,
they both I think one popped the card and one
popped a hammy or something like that, and the same
(07:35):
in the same episode, which was a remarkable thing. So Cahu,
the other team has been absolutely decimated, your team Takapu,
who seems to be doing incredibly well in terms of
the numbers at the stage, and you get the sense
that everyone kind of feels the emotional weight of those
eliminations and of people leaving. And I wonder if just
(07:57):
a part of it is that you get people together
who otherwise actually wouldn't cross paths. But you're kind of
with people who you probably would never meet otherwise.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Right, Actually that I've been telling people that where would
I cross paths with Louis Davis?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Would I Zion?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
You know, I've missed Zion Dale around the traps with
sports news and things like that, but and pieces, but
Louis live. You know, I knew Polly from and I
knew the Shorten the Street guys and stuff. But even
and even on the other team, you know, I kind
of knew all the faces and stuff like that, but
we didn't get to know them well.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
But still to meet people that you would.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Never and to and to spend intense amounts of time
with them to really get to know them, and kind
of you know, like you say, like you might have
bumped into Zion or you might have bumped into Porsche,
but you never it was unlikely that that for the
show you'd be sitting down for hours around a gas
cocker or a campfire chatting about each other's lives.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Right exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You and Porsche seemed to seem to really connect as well. Obviously,
you know, sort of she had experienced through rugby there,
but and she really like looked up to you.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Ah, I'd never met Porsche. You know, obviously knew of
her and.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
And that, and you know a lot of my my kids,
and you know a lot of people I know, especially
women's rugby and staff. So you know, everybody looked up
to her. And the best part was she came down.
I played rugby with her father and stuff like that.
I was sharing stories, you know about about playing against
her father and things like that.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And but you know, she's a lovely.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Person, really really caring, you know, and I was I
wasn't shocked. You know, she always comes across as as
a as a really nice human being. Everything with the group.
She didn't think she was any better than anybody. She
just came in and everything was about you know, huge competitive,
fierce competitor. But it was always team, team first. You know,
(09:49):
it had to be the team first. And I think
that's kind of where we clicked. But you know, you
think the same way. You know, we have a little chat,
you know, every now and then, what do you think,
you know, who we're going to do. And that was
part of the strategy, was you know, like you were
saying before, you know, they were decimated, but that was
you know, obviously Simon and David going out at the
(10:09):
same time. You know, it wasn't planned, but it certainly helped us. Yeah,
but you know, we were we were strategizing that we
would just knock them, just take them.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Off a little bit here, do something exactly.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Even when we took their the prize of the food
prize that they've won, and we hit the card and
we took it, I just know that that's going to
pay a mental game on it.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
It's a mental game. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, It's funny, like it feels like people sometimes they
go on the show expecting it just to be a
TV show, but they end up just getting into the
whole experience and in a much deeper way.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Than they had anticipated.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's the sense I get.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, and I think it's it's the closeness. You have
no contact with the outside world.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, so it's just.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
You, you know, you and your little group and them
and their little group, and the production crew and all
of that around as well.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
But you're just there.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
You don't know what's going on, you know, you don't
nobody gives you any news, you know, about anything that's happening.
Telephones are gone, things, communications gone. Yeah, So it's amazing.
You know what was amazing, was how well you ended
up sleeping. Really the first couple of nights. You know,
usually you're lying bed and you you know, on your.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Phone, you're making around.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Wake up in the middle of you know all of that.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
But after a while you just end up once you
got used to everybody's you know, noises, noises. Yeah, after
a while you sleep, you're hop in bed, lie back
and just you know, think about the day and it's
you know, everything was just good, and you just and
then wake up in the morning, say, jeez, that.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Was you know, it's like it was really surprising.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
So yeah, so you know it added you get up
in the morning and you feel good and until.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You have to have rice for breakfast. Well again again, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Not like the good old days when they're smuggling you a.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Few beers after the cameras.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah, you know, I remember back then too, because we're
on this island in Fiji.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You're out in the US.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, and these Fijians that lived over that way, they'd
always come and give us crabs and a little bit
of fish and oh how good.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, so none of that, there was none of that anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, it's about the book. Would you do it again?
I would actually would.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
You yeah, yeah, yeah, good man. It's so good to
see you on screen. So good to see you competing
again in twenty five years since that original experience must
be something.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Indeed, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
It'd be good. You have to get your six year
old to go back and watch that as well, the differences.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh no.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
We sit down and we watch the episodes, and some
of the guys are doing ads on TV and things
like that, so you know Livers doing that.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Oh yeah, she's doing that everywhere at the moment.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, you know, till he is my little daughter. Yeah,
every time that comes on to your dad.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Look this, there's your girl. There's your girl. There you
said you're my girl. Tell ye you're exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Oh good man. Well, we're loving watching you. Thank you
for agreeing to do it once again. I'm not going
to ask you if you when, but I'm always to
watch to see who's getting the winners edit, you know,
to deduce from the way the story is being told.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Obviously you're looking through a television person's eyes exactly exactly
the person.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, yeah, oh good man.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Well, thank you very much. On of course, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
TV and Z two, TV and Z plus Frank Mance,
good Luck, thank.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
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