Full Show Podcast: 09 May 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News Talk SEDB.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Morning, A good morning and welcome to news doalg Zed
be Jack Tame with you through to midday today. Feeling
very excited about Auckland if c's Prospects League. One of
their semi finaling is Adelaide United tonight. The day has
done relatively well in Auckland, although but a while weather
forecast around the place, so hopefully hold things hold out
for AFC this evening. For fourteen o'clock this morning, if

(01:05):
you're all up for a sporting contest of your own, boy,
do we have the recipe for you? Ah? Nadie Eland's
going to be here with one of her favorites. It's
a seafood charter recipe, beautiful and rich, heaps of garlic,
heaps of cream fresh obviously heaps of seafood as well,
so she'll be here to share that with us. And
then after ten our feature interview this morning is All

(01:26):
Black's Legend and dare I suggest celebrity Treasure Island legend
Frank Buntz, so he did Celebrity Treasure Island way back
in the day, more than twenty years ago. He's doing
it again. He is on the current season of Celebrity
Treasure Island. He hasn't been knocked out yet. Who knows,
he may go on to win the entire thing. So

(01:47):
I'm going to ask him a little bit about his
experience and how they've differed, because something tells me that
health and safety standards have changed over the last twenty
years when it comes to making shows like Celebrity Treasure Island.
I'd say some of the behind the scene shenanigans might
have changed as well. So he'll be here right after ten.
Right now, it is eight minutes past nine, Jack daed.

(02:07):
It was one of the most memorable days of my life.
We had been out most of the day on assignment,
leaving Scott Base early in the morning and flying by
helicopter across McMurdo Sound to a research team doing their
work at the McMurdo Dry Valleys, the largest ice free
area in Antarctica. It's a remarkable place. It looks like Mars,

(02:32):
and having filmed for a few hours, we took off
once again in the chopper and tracked the edge of
Ross Island, flying low to watch the frenzy of activity
on the edge of the continent below where the land
meets the ocean, penguins, seals, whales feeding in the summer thaw.

(02:52):
At Cape Bird, we used another battery or two, another
tape or two in the camera filming with the tens
of thousands of mating peers at the Adellan at the
Adali penguin colony. I mean, it's just remarkable to be
eyeing there, surrounded by so many birds and so much burdghit.

(03:12):
We flew home, skirting around the base of Mount Erebis,
epic and stark the dry valleys Cape Bird Mount Erebis
in one day. I was in a daze by the
time we landed. But as the helicopter wound down and
we unloaded our gear at Scott Base, the staff on
the ground we're in a bit of a flutter. You

(03:35):
are not going to believe They said, who's come for dinner?
He was standing at the Scott Base bar holding court.
I remember him being surrounded by maybe a half dozen people,
maybe more, hanging on every word. I meekly approached the

(03:56):
one unfamiliar face in the group. His producer and cleared
my throat. I'm really sorry to bother you, I said,
I'm sorry to interrupt. My name's Jack Tame and i'm
a reporter with Television New Zealand and you know Television
New Zealand and the BBC. We're work very closely together,
and I'm really sorry to interrupt. I just wondered if

(04:18):
it might be possible, if it wasn't too much of
an inconvenience, if Sir David might consider maybe doing an
interview with us. I don't know, said the producer, Just
ask him yourself, and so I did. I clumsily reached
out my clammy hand and repeated my speech. If it's

(04:39):
not too much trouble, if I'm not asking too much, well,
I'd be happy to said Sir David Attenborough. On one condition,
of course, we bring this bottle of wine. And so
it came to be that, after what had already been
maybe the single most special day of my journalistic career,

(05:01):
I came to find myself sitting in the Scott Based
lounge with a bottle of wine, musing over the miracle
of life with Sir David Attenborough. Just outside the base windows,
whales broke through the melting sea ice and puffed through
their blowholes as we cycled through subjects filmmaking, climate science,

(05:27):
the existence or otherwise of a god. I don't know
about you, but I can think of no single person
ever who has done more to shape our collective understanding
of the natural world, no person who has done more
to foster our sense of wonder across as one hundred

(05:49):
years has broadcasts and storytelling have reached and affected billions
of people across the planet. How many storytellers, how many broadcasters, filmmakers, biologists, ecologists,
marine and climate scientists have been inspired to pursue their
passion because of Sir David Attenborough. His is the voice

(06:12):
of the natural world, or should I say his is
the voice of the natural world. And as the world
celebrates his yet another achievement one hundred years, I gratefully
reflect on that late afternoon in Antarctica, January twenty ten.

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For one of us it was an extraordinary encounter and
an otherwise pretty unremarkable life. For the other, it was
an unremarkable encounter in an undoubtedly extraordinary life, the extraordinary life.
And as I wrapped our filming and he headed off
to find his spot for dinner. I shook Sir David

(06:55):
Attenborough's hand and spoke the only words I could, the
truest words I could. Thank you. I said for everything
I said, thank you. Jack Tam ninety two ninety two
is our text number this morning. Jacketewstalks HEDB dot co
dot nz is my email address. If you're going to

(07:15):
send me a text, don't forget that standard text costs apply.
That is the story anytime I get asked to speak
to journalism students these days and they're like, you know,
the prospects in the industry looking a little bit shaky. Jack,
I'm like, you know what, that is very accurate, but
there are not many gigs on this earth where you
will be paid to sit down and share a bottle
of red wine in the Antarctic summer with Sir David Attenborough.

(07:38):
In a couple of minutes, Kevin Melon will get us
underway for our Saturday together. It's fourteen minutes past nine.
I'm Jack Tame, It's Saturday morning, and this is Newstalk's EDB.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Well, you're heading out to start your Saturday turn off.
Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Tam on News Talk zed B.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Jacket is a pretty sad day for Sir David Attinburgh.
After all, he is officially too old to play with Lego,
says Adrian. Look at the box. It clearly says Lego
should be played with by four to ninety nine year olds.
We can make an exception this time, can't we, Adred Jack.
There was an incredible reflection with one of the greatest
men of all time. You've brought me to tears reflecting
back on such a grand scale with a grand man.

(08:17):
A saluteusis jojo, I thank you. Jack's stories like that
are unique and inspiring, great yarn to start the weekend.
It is, I mean just truly like, what a privilege,
what a ridiculous privilege. And yeah, I'm going to put
a photo up on the Newstalks he'db website. You've just
got to remember that it was twenty ten, Okay, it

(08:38):
was fifteen years ago, sixteen years ago. And you've also
got to remember that I had been out filming in
Antarctica all day, so I'd been lying among the you know,
the leftovers of eighty thousand are dally penguins and the
and the thing about penguins is they eat a lot

(09:00):
of fish and so that when they eat fish, that
has to go somewhere, right, so just keep that in mind,
and that's where i'd been filming before. I then went
and introduced myself to go and meet Sir David Edinburgh. Okay,
so there wasn't a lot of time in between. Eighteen
minutes past nine. Kevin Milne is with us this morning,
Calder Kevin Cilder Jack.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
So so David Attenburgh would have been in his mid eighties.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah at the time. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Extraordinary age to be strolling around down Tartaga, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
It is? Yeah, I mean he he. I remember talking
to him and he said that one of the things
because I was talking to him about how the filmmaking
techniques had changed over his time, and he, you know,
he said that one of the interesting things that people
often thought that he was the one behind the camera
all the time, so you know, when the when the
lame gazelle is getting picked off by the cheetah, he said,

(09:52):
people sort of mistook him for being the one standing
there filming that frame all the time. And of course,
you know, he does these presentations where he is there
in the environment with these animals and you know, those
are some of his most you know, special and memorable
and remarkable pieces. But he's not necessarily the one behind
the camera all the time. And actually I went and

(10:14):
he's got a couple of amazing stories. He actually published
his diaries from when he was a really young man
in his early twenties, and he trekked through Papua New
Guinea and he was going to seek various i think
birds of paradise for the British Museum or something like that.

(10:34):
And this would have been, you know, this was eighty
years ago, and they were carrying you know, ninety cases
of equipment because they were trying to film it. And
back then, of course the various you know cameras and
tripods and things weren't quite as advanced as they might
be today. And so anyway, they would trek twenty or
thirty kilometers and they would get to the edge of

(10:56):
a tribe's region, and then they would have all of
these all of the sort of local indigenous people carrying
their equipment, and then they would get to the edge
of their and then another tribe would come along and
they would hand over all of this equipment and do
a deal for these guys to carry their stuff through
the bush. Really, it's just amazing. It's just such a

(11:16):
you know, it's such an extraordinary thing.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, yes, yes, My dad was fifty when he went
to Antartoic Karen and I remember there was quite a
hooha about the fact that he was fifty. Wo was
that getting a bit too old to be flying him
down there? And and like that seems so young now
and certainly alongside David Attenberg. Yeah, age been there.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, amazing anyway, Kevin, he's not the only great broadcaster
who's turned one hundred. You are paying tribute to one
of this country's greatest.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Yeah, yesterday David Attenborough of course turned one hundred British broadcaster.
But New Zealand has its own remarkable centenarian broadcast from Warkworth,
who turned one hundred last week. His name's Alan Martin,
not to be mixed up with the whiteware retailer Alvi Martin.

(12:06):
This Alan Martin ended up the Director General of TVNZ
from nineteen eighty to nineteen eighty five. But what a lifetime.
As a young man, Alan Martin ran the family Derry farm.
When his dad went to war. He himself had a
stint with the New Zealand Armed Forces in Japan. He
then became im a radio announcer in Mozambique and married Elaine,

(12:29):
who's also still living. Alan learned to fly with the
Portuguese Air Force and was still flying when he was
eighty five. From the Air Force, Alan went on to
a successful career in television, studying at London's Associated Rediffusion
that's ITV's London channel, or was not sure whether it's SIGA.

(12:51):
Later he was hired as a producer by TV and
Z and he oversaw the hugely popular regional magazine programs
Town and Around in all the main centers, and he
produced the current affairs program Compass every one of our
first current affairs shows. After further success in Australia, Allen

(13:12):
was given charge of TV two, changing its name to
South Pacific Television. He didn't like running a channel that
was at number two on IT. In that role, he
oversaw the twenty four hour live telethons that raised millions
for charity. Eventually he took over running all of TVNZ

(13:36):
as its director general, now in retirement. In two thousand
and two, he was awarded the Broadcasting Industry Award for
outstanding achievement. Four years later, at the age of eighty,
he graduated with a phdm philosophy from Auckland University. At
the same time, he became a legend at the World
Masters Games around the world, winning literally dozens of gold

(14:01):
medals in track and field and swimming events. Last year,
as a ninety nine year old, Allen competed in the
twenty twenty five World Masters Games in Taipei in the
one hundred meters, the two hundred meters, the four hundred meters,
the javelin and the discus. So last Saturday, Alan Martin

(14:24):
Obe celebrated his one hundredth birthday with his family in Brisbane.
Happy birthday, Alan, You are a broadcasting legend.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
So good well, well see Kevin, Yeah, what an amazing
life as well. Yes, I love I love people who
really you know, have kind of sought to you know,
you get the sense of squeezed everything they can out
of life, you know, every experience, and they have all
these kind of these disparate interests, you know, like he
sees flying and flying in the Portuguese Air Force and

(14:55):
yet still a lot of broadcasting. You know, they're quite
they're quite different things.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Obviously he gave it up at eighty six because he said,
it's very hard to find anybody who'll fly with a
pilot that's over eight.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah. Oh that's a lovely, lovely story. All right, Hey,
thank you so much, Kevin. You have a great weekend
and we will catch you again. Versa and Kevin Milne
with us this morning. Thank you for your text. Jack,
what an awesome experience in Antarctica. Not enough for Sir
David Attenborough. I never missed his shows while growing up,
even still today. You put a tear in my eye,
So thank you for sharing that experience and all all

(15:27):
the better for sharing a bottle of red with to
David Jack, a lump in my throat, tears in my eyes.
You never live a greater day. It couldn't have happened
to a nicer person. Well, thank you very much, Agnes,
that's very kind.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
You know.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
The funny The funny thing is I remember afterwards, so
we we we did the end, so we met in
the Scott Based bar and back then this is you know,
sixteen years ago everything at the Scott Based bar was
two dollars. So you want a glass of wine would
come in a cask two bucks, you want to be
a two bucks. Everything was two bucks, very reasonably priced
and and and the staff at Scott Base would do

(16:01):
little shifts, you know, so you'd have you have to
do Thursday, you know, for a couple of hours or whatever,
and someone else are doing the Friday. And so we
met in the bar, we had the little interview in
the lounge, dinner was prepared, everyone sat down for dinner
and there were a couple of speeches saying, oh, you know, Todavid,
We're just so delighted to have you here. And then
a couple of days later we flew back to New

(16:22):
Zealand and he and his crew, as in Sir David
and his crew also flew back to New Zealand and
the Scott based cooks, the Scott based kitchen staff were
famously good at making delicious food, much much better food
in my opinion, than was available at the American base.

(16:42):
And so for everyone who was flying back to New Zealand,
they prepared a special pack lunch. All of the Scott
based staff had their own little brown paper bags with
a packed lunch, and they insisted on making Sir David
Attenborough a special pack lunch. So when I went to
the airfield and got on the plane to fly out,
I had to walk over and give to David Attenborough

(17:03):
his packed lunch from the scott based staff, very much appreciated.
I can tell you that twenty six minuters past nine
you with Jack Tame Our Sporto is in next on
News Talks EDB.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Getting your weekends started.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
It's Saturday Morning with Jack team on News Talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
I just saw this trailer the other day for this
new film called The Sleep Detectives. Oh sorry, The Sheep Detectives.
The Sleep Detectives, The Sheep Detectives and Hugh Laurie, Hugh Jackman,
for goodness sake, sheep on the mine this morning are
Hugh Jackman. Is that it looks like it's one of
these films that's like kid friendly but also maybe delights

(17:43):
adults and could be really good or maybe not. Like
you know, it's one of those things. I feel like
it's either going to be really good or really anyway.
Our movie reviewer has been to it. Francesca is going
to be with us beforeteen o'clock. She's gonna tell us
a little bit more about The Sheep Detectives, starring Hugh
Jackman right now though it's twenty minutes twenty nine minutes
past nine our Sporto. Andrew Sevil is here this morning

(18:06):
and sev that was a pretty impressive Crusaders performance in
the end. Took avery while to put the Blues to bed,
but they did it.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Yeah, it was jack good morning, great crowd again. I
think it was pretty much a sellout, if not a sellout,
So if the Crusaders can keep doing that in the
immediate future, a long term future.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Then they'll go well.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Yeah, it was a bit of a grind duly on,
which was probably always expected between the two old rivals.
But then the Crusaders, I thought played very well forward
started to take control, especially at the breakdown, and then
you're old mate Lester firing nukouw. He just gets better
every time he plays in the loose. He clearly has

(18:49):
a roving role. He does try and jackal or dig
in for the odd turnover, but he's also wider of
the ruck as well. Ball in hand, I think he
made several decisive ball carries last night. Made a lot
of tackles I think he made I have made the
most tackles. Wow for the Crusaders. So as each week

(19:11):
goes on, you'd have to suggest I think I said
a couple of weeks. I don't know whether this hybrid
role would work at Test match football. He will make
the All Black squad, probably as a midfielder or outside
back anyway. But I'm sure Dave Ready is watching on
and licking his lips and going maybe we could try

(19:32):
leicesterfying a new coup at open side in the odd
game or maybe late in test matches. I think the
jury again is still out whether it'll work in test matches.
But geez, he's making every post winner in Super rug
But he was again. He was outstanding last night, and
great night for George Bauer. Very likable man, very popular,

(19:54):
the jovial prop one hundredth game for the Crusaders, and
he scored his first ever try yeah for the Crusaders,
which is quite quite remarkable. So the Cruse you'll win
because that keeps them in touch with the top three,
top four. If they had a loss that I think
they were starting to drift onto the bubble or the

(20:14):
verge of missing out on the playoffs. It's still got
a couple of big games to go. The Chiefs beat
the Reds and Brisbane last night, which is a great
win for them because it's very tricky to win over there.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Thirty one to twenty one, I think it was in
the end.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
So the Chiefs go up to joint first second on
points difference with the Hurricanes. But the Hurricanes play Mowana
tonight you would expect them to win that. So the
Hurricanes will remain in the box seat with a game
in hand over some of those top teams. But the
way it's looking, Jack, I think you'd have to suggest

(20:47):
that the Hurricanes and Chiefs will probably be the teams
there at the end.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, yeah, I think so. For the time being. At
the very least, it's awkand FC up against Adelaide United
in League one this evening, Go Media Stadium, six pm kickoff.
That's going to be very exciting. Hopefully they can least
get through these semis and then make it to the
final go one step further and then the first season.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
After that disappointment of last year when they when they
lost that return league. So so I changed around this year.
They've got the home league first in a way sunny day.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
In Auckland, which is good news.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
So yeah, obviously a key match for Ukland.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
If so, you really do need to win.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
The home league and then and then go to the
Return League over in Adelaide and and hope for the best.
The drawer or even a tight defeat might work for
the for if if they win by a couple tonight,
then the Phoenix women play the Return League against Brisbane tomorrow.
So big, big weekend for football in the country.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah and d all right, thank you sir, that is
our sport. Andrews very quickly.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Johnny Cage, Johnny Cage, you would be a big Mortal
Combat fan.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
I thought you were going to ask me about David Attenborough.
What what a fantastic story you told.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Oh, yeah, yeah, it's a it's a very yeah. The voice,
yes yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
You could hear him say two words and you know
straight away it was Johnny Cage Mortal Kombat.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
No, you weren't a Mortal Combat fan. I would have
thought there would be one hundred percent you. I would
have said it was El Burger Bar video game. Yeah yeah,
but then it was a movie, and then it was
another movie. It was a remake. Blah blah blah. No, no, okay,
not a not a Mortal Kombat fan. I'm surprised you know,
a man of culture like yourself.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
I would I prefer art House Jack.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yes, of course you do. Of course it was in English,
then you're not watching it, Thank you very much. Andrew
Savill Sporto The Immortal Kombat Too has been released, which
is why I'm asking about Johnny Cage. Honestly, I would
have bet the house on that would have been certain
that Andrew Savill would have been a Mortal Kombat fan
from way back in the day. But we're going to
get our film reviewers thoughts on that in a couple

(22:57):
of minutes. It's twenty six minutes to ten. Do you
recognize this voice? Thirty years? Oh man? That makes me

(23:19):
feel old? After wanna be hit the air waves. Sporty
Spice Melcy from The Spy Skills has released a new
solo album called Sweat. It is inspired by her club
Rave days before her Spy Skills era, that heady freedom
of losing oneself on the dance floor. The viby tracks

(23:40):
throw her to throw to her whole sporty persona, as
did the accompanying music videos. She is in phenomenal shape.
I'm reported, I am I'm trustworthily advised at the tenor
age of fifty years young. Won't be long until we
hear sweat booming out of les mills. I'm sure it's

(24:04):
very cobby, isn't it, especially for eight in the morning.
But never mind, Freddi used to Rudkin, our film reviewer,
as well us this morning, good morning, good morning. A
couple of films this morning, rather differing tays and genre.
Let's begin with Mortal Kombat two.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
You want to know what makes a hero. It's not destiny.
It's not something you're born with. It's searching for greatness.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Johnny Cage, you have been chosen for more to comeback.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Than realizing you've had it in you this entire time.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Dan Model Combat Mortal Kombat too.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
It was just so.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
There was the original, there was a video game, then
there was the original Moral Combat, then there was a
remake of Mortal Kombat one. Right, it's very I.

Speaker 7 (24:57):
Think I think ninety two the game was released, ninety
five and ninety seven, they released two films. Then there
was some bankruptcy and some copyright issues and it all
kind of disappeared. Then it was a boot in twenty
twenty one, and this is number two in the reboots,
so yes, you're absolutely up to speed. So in this film,
Lord Rayden is he needs to find a new warrior
to prepare for a tournament against the Outer World or

(25:19):
the Outworld, which is run by Shao Khan in other words,
is going to be this tournament to decide the fate
of Earth, and if Earth loses, it gets absorbed in
Shao Khan's empire. And he's not a very nice man.
He's a very violent dictator. So of course Earth would
quite like to sort of, you know.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Not not be destroyed.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
That happened, so pretty simple premise. And we meet the
group of warriors who are already already exist, and then
a new character is brought in, played by New Zealand
at Carl Urban and he plays this he does it
very well. A nineties washed up action star Johnny Cage.
And while everybody else has these superpowers like they can

(26:03):
shoot fireballs or lightning or any forces and things. His
superpowers that he's very good looking, so he gets all
the sort of the comedic lines and sort of has
a lot of fun with this role. He's perfect for
this because he can do that really well, sort of
that mix of action in comedy. Just to sort of

(26:23):
add a little bit to the narrative, they throw in
the storyline about this ancient annu look that everybody is after,
and they fight for that as well. But I'm kind
of looking, I'm not entirely sure why, because shal Khan
is already you know, gonna live for ever, incredibly powerful.
I don't know why he needs this ambulet, but anyway,

(26:43):
we spend twenty minutes fighting for that as well. I
think the story is quite messy. But look, if you
like fight scenes, they pretty much kick off at the
beginning of this film and they do not end until
the very end. So and there are some pretty impressive
There's one really impressive fight scene between one gentleman who
can shoot firebles and another baddie who has a hat

(27:06):
style like a table saw. It's kind of got this
razor rem and what they achieve with that is actually
pretty remarkable. So if you love it, it's very much
jamed at people who love the game. You just want
to watch fight sequence after fight sequence after fight scene.
That's who it's saying for, and you will probably get
something out of that.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Sort of feels like a bit of an oxymoron. To
talk about a gentleman who can shoot fireballs with his hands.

Speaker 7 (27:28):
Oh no, but yeah, no, there's something quite.

Speaker 8 (27:32):
You know.

Speaker 7 (27:32):
These warriors are quite. They have a bit of gravita
to them.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yes, but you know, yeah, very good. Okay, Mortal Kombat too,
sounds sounds like one for the fans. But it's a
bit of fun. If you just lean and enjoy a
bit of a popcorny flick, that's not a bad thing.
Next up, this is The Sheep Detectives.

Speaker 9 (27:52):
If there's one secret to happiness in my life, it's
taking care of the kindest creatures on earth shee keating
them well fed, well.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Groomed, and each day read out loud to them mysteries.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Who done it? I like to pretend that they follow
along the only.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Ah, why would he stop there? He was just about
to say who the killer was?

Speaker 10 (28:16):
This is torture.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
It was a meat right, Okay. That is the sound
of Hugh Jackman tell us about the adjectives.

Speaker 7 (28:24):
So when I saw the trailer for this film, I
couldn't decide whether it looked totally naught or utterly delighted.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
That is exactly how I feel. This is You've You've
been much more articulate with that point that I was.
I thought this could go either way.

Speaker 7 (28:37):
Yeah, and I was like, okay, all right. And to
be honest, it took me a little bit to get
into this film, but I can report it as absolutely delightful.
It is kind of a bit of a nutty idea.
I was like, who came up with this idea? But
it is based on a novel by Leoni Swan was
called Three Bags Full. The script has been done by
Craig Mesim. He's one of the creators buying behind Chernobyl
and The Last of Us. It is very much an

(28:59):
Agatha Christie style murder mystery set in a very picturesque
English town. It is a tale of this mind. A
shepherd called George, as he said, played by Hugh Jackman,
who looks after his flock of sheep. He is very
loving towards them. He breathes them for wool only because
he's a vegetarian. He's named them all and as you

(29:20):
heard in the Trainer, he likes to read to them
at the end of the day murder mystery novels, which
turns out to be very helpful because one day the
sheep discovered George is dead in the meadow and they
then go about trying to solve this murder. At the beginning,
there's a lot of sort of world building around the sheep,
and they quite and they're quite interesting. They have very

(29:42):
short memories. They collectively can decide to forget things, so
life is very pleasant. They've never been outside their meadow.
They don't die yet they think they become clouds, so
they've kind of created this world around them. And what
happens in this film is that they do deal with
serious sort of issues in life about you know, death
and accepting life is filled with hard times and belonging.

(30:04):
They're not perfect. The wind, the little winter Lambs are
outcasts because they're just thought to never grow up to
be anything good for useful. So there's you know, there's
there's a lot of talk about acceptance, belonging and sacrifice
and things. And it's like we've spoken about this before.
When I grew up, I was watching films like et
and things. They were live live action films like this is,

(30:29):
but maybe with a little bit of extra help and
hear the sheep animated things, but they were real characters
and real people, and they took you on these stories
that were filled with humor and a bit of action,
and they were quite sweet that they had real life
people that you could relate to, and they would often
you deal with quite big things. And the animation came
along and that's what the family film became from about

(30:50):
two thousand and on. And what I'm loving is we
are seeing a bit of We're seeing studios go no,
we can make a family film that also can appeal
to an adult, a live action one, and that's what
this is. So I kind of got drawn into this
and I do think it is really quite chumming. But
the cast is absolutely incredible.

Speaker 11 (31:08):
I'm not going to go into.

Speaker 7 (31:09):
It, but when you'll be sitting there listening to the Sheep.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Go I know that. Yeah right.

Speaker 7 (31:15):
Cast is absolutely fabulous and I think they did a
really nice little job with us.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Very good. Okay, I'm looking forward to seeing it. Then
that could be one for our fam Americ And so
that is the Sheep Detectives. Francesca's first film, Mortal Kombat two.
Will make sure the details. So both of those are
all up at newstalksb dot co, dot MZ. Both of
them are showing in cinema, so that could be a
good little option this weekend. Hey, thank you. If your feedback, Jack,
it gets better, your story just gets better. The brown

(31:41):
paper bag lunch typical key we lunch we all grew
up with so good that that's what we set Sir
David Attenborough off on his way back home. I'm sure
he would have enjoyed it. The thing about the scott
based cooks, and I'm sure it's still the same today,
is they are just amazing bakers, amazing bakers. So there
are all sorts of slices and cakes and bits and
pieces because when you're in a cold environment you need

(32:01):
a little bit of comfort food. It's not such a
bad thing if you put on a couple of kegs.
I've had an email from William this morning saying, Jack,
absolutely love your story today. Remarkable life that David Sadavid
Attenborough has lived. Happy one hundredth birthday to him ninety two,
ninety two. If you want to send us a text message,
Jacket Neewstalks, he'd be dot co dot nz is my
email address. Nadia Limb is here in a couple of

(32:23):
minutes with her favorite seafood charter recipe.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Where the Weekend finds its rhythm Saturday morning with Jack
dam on News Talks.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
He'd be twelve to ten on News Talks. He'd be
the one and only. Nadia limb Is with us in
the kitchen this morning, killed her judo.

Speaker 12 (32:40):
Jack, How are you?

Speaker 3 (32:41):
I'm so well? Thank you? Just so nasty hear you always?
How life?

Speaker 12 (32:45):
Yeah, no, it's good, can't complain.

Speaker 8 (32:47):
It's yeah.

Speaker 12 (32:48):
I'm just sitting at my dining table looking out so
the mountains and we're on the Crown Terrace and it's
going to be a beautiful day.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
I think.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Isn't this just like the absolute perfect time of year
for you? Like do you just look out and see
nothing but golden leaves falling everywhere?

Speaker 10 (33:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (33:02):
It glows my mind, Like I never get sick of that.
It is so beautiful. The colors are just I don't
know what it is. I researched it at once, and
apparently it's when when you get really extreme temperatures that
then the leaves go even more vibrant because down here,
you know, we get very extreme kind of cold and hot,

(33:23):
and the extreme cold, apparently is what makes the leaves
that just so intense colors.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
That would make sense, right, because if you think about
other places that have amazing leaves, like parts of Japan,
and you know, like Vermont and Maine, those parts of
they get yeah, they get snow and it does get
quite warm in the in the summer as well. So yeah,
that's really interesting.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Good job.

Speaker 12 (33:48):
Yeah, mushrooms and elderberries and all sorts to pick.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Do you go and pick mushrooms?

Speaker 4 (33:53):
We did.

Speaker 12 (33:54):
I went mushroom picking for birch billettes and porcinis a
few days ago with my three year old. We haven't
eaten any of them because they were actually a bit
too big. You have to get them at the right time,
the right size, otherwise the worms get into them too,
so you've got to get them early.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, too late, Okay, Yeah, never mind. Yeah, so long
as you know what you're doing. Just I would be
a bit anxious about mushroom picking enough. Yeah, you really
just want to. Yeah, who're on the side of caution there.
So you have a delicious sounding recipe for us this morning.
Carlos's favorite seafood chowder.

Speaker 12 (34:25):
Yeah, yeah, this is I think, well, actually he's not
right here right now, but I think if you were
to ask Carlos what his death rowmeal would be, I
reckon I think you'd probably say this, this this some
seafood chowder. Yeah, he loves seafruit chowder.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Okay, yeah, love you guys are away way from the ocean,
but I know you've got some some mate to frequent
the waters around Stuart Island and so you're able to
get your hands on fresh fish runners through the recipe.

Speaker 12 (34:48):
Yes, okay, So well, first off, like for a good
seafood chowder, you know, you've got to have a good stock.
So the way to make a good seafood stock that's
nice and quick and easy is using muscles. So get
some fresh muscles, you know, in the shell, put them
in a big pot, and then cover it with just

(35:09):
enough cold water, so not too much, just enough to
cover the mussels, and then bring that to a gentle simmer.
Simmer it for you know, I don't know, four to
five minutes until the mussels are starting to open, and
of course discard any that don't open because they're not fresh.
And the ones that have opened, then you can remove

(35:30):
them with tongs into a different bowl and that's your
muscle stock. So that's your homemade stock for your chowder. Yeah,
rather than having to buy stock, which you can do
as well, of course if you liked and also if
you don't like muscles. Some people don't like muscles. Some
people love them and some people don't. So if you
didn't like muscles, you don't have to do the step.
You could just use fish stock or possibly even chicken stock.

(35:50):
We'll give it a different flavor, but you could use that,
no problem.

Speaker 10 (35:54):
And then we're.

Speaker 12 (35:55):
Gonna simply saute some leak and garlic and a little
bit of olive oil. To this recipe. I add half
a teaspoon of smoke Proprika just it just gives it
a little a little bit of smoky flavor and which
is really nice. And and then actually, sorry, I skipped
a little step if you like. Again, optional you can

(36:18):
add some saffron threads just to pinch to that muscle
stock and to and allow that to infuse while you're
doing the rest of the recipe. Optional though, Yeah. And
then into the the pot with the leak and garlics,
add some butter. Melt that and then a couple of
tablespoons of flour because we're going to make like a

(36:39):
rue sauce and you cook that, cook that out, and
then you can gradually add ladles of your fish or
muscle stock into the cooked flour, and that thicken and
then it becomes, you know, like a thick base. I guess, yeah, yeah,
And then what do you do? You add some potatoes,

(37:00):
some cute potatoes and sorry, if you can hearground.

Speaker 10 (37:05):
I had all three.

Speaker 12 (37:06):
It's like upstairs, we're busy with the puzzle. And I
was like, great, I'm wanning, get life. This is going
to work.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
We are We're going to have the ads crashing very shortly.
So what I will do, though, so very quickly adding
in the fish slowly? Or do you add it all
at once.

Speaker 12 (37:23):
The stock you mean, I would add it gradually.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Okay, okay, we'll do that, and then you can do
like whitefish. You could do crayfish meat.

Speaker 12 (37:31):
That's right, and then you just yeah, you just adding
whatever you like.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Prawns.

Speaker 12 (37:35):
We added prawns, the chopped up muscles, some chopped up
chunks of fish or salmon. If you're lucky, you could
put some crayfish, and if you had a bit, and
then you finish it off with a juice of half
a lemon, some fishly chopped parsley or dill, and I
think a nice little touch of the end. Is you

(37:55):
have some cream fresher sour.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Cream sounds amazing. Thank you so much, taste. We will
let you get back to paradise and make sure that
recipes on the newsboks'd bi website, natilm.

Speaker 10 (38:03):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Thanks Jack, sweet ass, listening for your Saturday Saturday Morning
with Jack Day on newstalk s edb.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Oh, honestly I did. There's something about a rich seafood
chatter that is just so good, isn't it? So news
talks edb dot Cot on his head forward Slash Jack
is the best place to go for everything from our show.
You should know that already. We will make sure that
Nadi's amazing seafood chatter recipe is up and available so
you can cook along wherever you are. This weekend. After

(38:33):
ten o'clock, we've got our screen time segment where we
recommend a couple of shows to watch your stream from
your place, including this fantastic news show called Big Mistake
that I've seen this week that is so much fun
and as well as that All Blacks Legend, Chiefs Legend,
Celebrity Treasure Island Legend. Frank Buntz is our feature inview.
He's going to be with us right after the ten
o'clock news. But it's almost ten, so it's news time.

(38:55):
I'm Jack Tame. It's Saturday morning, and this, of course
is newstalk edb.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Your weekend stance right here, Saturday Morning with jackdam on
News Talks.

Speaker 13 (39:05):
Edb more any you attack teim on News Talks, he'd

(39:31):
be through to twelve o'clock today.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
It is so good to have you with us. Frank
Buntz is a fifty five cap all Black legend, but
twenty seven years since he hung up his boots following
his career with the AABS and European with the Chiefs.
Of course, Frank is back on our screens playing a
very different game. It's his second attempt at digging up
some cash on Celebrity Treasure Island. He's been a quiet

(39:55):
achiever on the show so far, but I don't know.
Could he be getting the winner's cut? Who knows? He's
with us in the studio this morning. Count to Frank,
good morning, good morning. It's so good to see you're
looking great for a man with how many children? Six children?
Six children, aging from what they're asked from forty to six.

(40:17):
You're looking incredibly rested for someone in your physician, I
should Well, actually I've no, I've just come to grips
with it, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 14 (40:25):
You know, we had my daughter's moving to Australia, so
we had a great afternoon over the weekend, and you know,
I'm just feeling good about everything.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Those Yeah, she's moved to Australia because just economic reasons.
The economic reason. Yeah, she's got four four kids, so
four of my grandkids.

Speaker 14 (40:42):
And your husband's a builder, Yeah, and worked right up
over here and he got offered a position over there,
and so basically, you know, they've got to go over there.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
And and do what they do. It's the story repeated
how many tens of thousands of times at the moment
exactly CTI. So it is twenty five years since you
were last on them, which is just crazy to me
because I remember watching that season back in the day.
Twenty five years. Why would you agree to go on
this program again? Yeah, it's not really the challenge, you know,

(41:19):
I don't mind a challenge. In all of that course,
I had fun, you know on that one year. It
was in Fiji and yeah, a little bit different, Yeah,
a little bit different, and you know, there was it
was a great cast.

Speaker 14 (41:29):
I don't think it's the people. You know, you just
you enjoy yourself. You know, you have you have the challenge.
It's it's something totally different. But you meet a whole
lot of new people. Yeah, have fun, and you get paid.
You know you're obviously not doing it for anything, but yeah, nothing, sir,
but you know, you get a little money in your
back pocket.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
You have this challenge, you have a great experience, and
you meet a whole lot of new people, and you know,
it just just all worked. Actually, yeah, it's It's funny
because over the years, obviously the format has largely stayed
the same. But I feel like the I don't know,
maybe watching on Talley, it feels like the hard chip
isn't quite as pronounced as it was in two thousand

(42:09):
and one. I don't know if it's a health and
safety thing. They're just like not allowed to starve you Like, so,
what do you remember from two thousand and one? How
do you compare this season with that season? It's hard
to remember with twenty five yearsh Yeah, but yeah, I
can't I can't remember really being being hungry. I think

(42:31):
we might we might have had a little bit of
you know back door. Yeah, yeah, yeah, back then, And
there was certainly a night where we had a few
beers and stuff like that. Okay, yeah, I don't remember
seeing that on television, but yeah, it wasn't yeah, no,

(42:54):
it was always fun.

Speaker 14 (42:55):
You know, they're not They weren't as strict back then
as as certainly they were in terms of especially you know,
letting with your information and letting people know what you
doing and you know, and things like that.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
It was like, don't tell you know such and such.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
You know.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Now it's like sign this. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh no,
you I mean, you can't get away any of the
spoilers now anything, right, Yeah, you've got to sign all
of the things, sign your life away. We're gonna, yeah,
we're gonna.

Speaker 14 (43:22):
And everybody asks, you know, of course I'm getting people
now in the stroll what happened?

Speaker 11 (43:27):
You know?

Speaker 3 (43:27):
You can't tell me?

Speaker 10 (43:28):
Who want to?

Speaker 3 (43:29):
There must be there must be a nightmare in side
of things. It's quite hard. It's quite hard, especially, you know,
and you obviously you have to tell your family and
things where you're going and and you know, yeah yeah,
and your your workmates or your bosses or you know whatever.

Speaker 14 (43:44):
It is like, you've got to tell them. You can't
just say, oh, I'm taking a couple of weeks off
in what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (43:50):
I can't tell you. There's not many bosses that put
up with that, but it's I remember. I remember my
friend Matt McLean did it a few years ago, and
he was a huge, huge, huge fan, like probably too
much of a fan. And actually, and so the first
time he was on, because he was on a couple
of times, the first time, I like timed how long

(44:13):
you know? I was trying to work out how long
you'd been away. And then the second time he actually
won it, and I remember he didn't. He came back
and I was like, how did you go? How'd you go?
And he's like, oh, I can't really tell you. And
I was like, come on, bro, you can tell me,
you can tell me. And he's like, no, no, just
you know, I can't tell you. I can't tell you.
And I was like okay. And then he ended up
winning and I was like, oh, yeah, this is absolutely amazing.

(44:33):
But he managed to surprisingly keep the secret, and I
can just I can only imagine that when you get
back and everyone works out you've been on the show.
Literally everyone is going frank exactly.

Speaker 14 (44:45):
You know, yesterday I had two people yesterday, I'm sitting
there having a couple of coffee in a cafe.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
And put ke and people come, can you tell me?
You know people, it's people, you know that is it's
harder not to tell them, you know, you just turned
it into a bit of a laugh. Yeah, I tell you,
I don't kill you.

Speaker 10 (45:07):
Yeah, yeah, all that.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
But yeah, people you know are the ones that are like,
come on, man, you know is it is?

Speaker 14 (45:13):
It an emotional experience, very actually, and it's amazing how
quickly it turns into, you know, into something we the
best moments were after all the cameras are gone and everything.
But you know, you're you're sitting around, You've done your
you know, you have a lot of fun during the day.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
It's a lot of emotion in that.

Speaker 14 (45:34):
But once the cameras are off and you've had your
rice and beans for dinner, yeah, you sit around a
little campfire. We just turned the you know, the guests
gas bottle on and turn it on and we just
you know, set around and layered it around and just talked.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
You know.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
We all talked about our lives and our families and
you know, and uh, that was it was an awesome
part of you know, of the whole process and the
whole experience. But it's amazing how quickly you you connect
to people. Yeah, right, and and it's huge.

Speaker 14 (46:10):
What was her name that left this New Zealand she
left after yeah, the first days. Yeah, and even then
was was really emotional, especially so for their team. But
you know, Polly went one by one by one, you know,
and and you've spent a lot of close time with them.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (46:28):
Man, uh, you know, there were a lot of tears shed,
There's a lot of hugging and you know, just support
and and things like that.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
And well, dear, I suggest for anyone who hasn't watched
this week's episodes and here's your here's your spoiler alert
right now block your rear is just for five seconds.
So we've had an especially emotional week because both David
and Simon Barnett had to pull out because of injury
and the same challenge. They both I think one popped
the car and one popped a hamming or something like that,

(46:56):
and the same in the same episode, which was a
remarkable thing. So Cahou the other team has been absolutely decimated.
Your team Takapu, who seems to be doing incredibly well
in terms of the numbers at the stage, And you
get the sense that everyone kind of feels the emotional
weight of those eliminations and of people leaving. And I

(47:19):
wonder if just a part of it is that you
get people together who otherwise actually wouldn't cross paths, Like
you're kind of with people who you probably would never
meet otherwise, right exactly, I've been telling people that where
would I cross paths with Louis Davis?

Speaker 4 (47:33):
Would I of Zion?

Speaker 3 (47:35):
You know, I've missed Zion Dale around the traps with
sports news and things like that, but and pieces.

Speaker 10 (47:39):
But Louis live.

Speaker 14 (47:42):
You know, I knew Polly from and I knew the
shortened street guys and stuff. But and even on the
other team, you know, I kind of knew all the
faces and stuff like that, but we didn't get to
know them well.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
But still to meet people that you would never and
to and to spend intense amounts of time with them
to really get to know them, and kind of, you know,
like you say, like you might have bumped into Zion,
or you might have bumped into Porsche, but you never
it was unlikely that that for the show you'd be
setting down for hours around a gas cocker or campfire

(48:14):
chatting about each other's lives exactly. You and Porsche seemed
to seem to really connect as well. Obviously, you know,
sort of she had experienced through rugby there, but and
she really like looked up to you.

Speaker 14 (48:24):
Ah, I'd never met Porscha, you know, obviously knew of
her and and that, and you know, a lot of
my my kids, and you know a lot of people
I know, especially women's rugby and YEAF, so you know,
everybody looked up to her.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
And the best part was she came down. I played
rugby with her father and stuff like that.

Speaker 14 (48:43):
I was sharing stories, you know about about playing against
her father and things like that. And but you know,
she's a lovely person, really really caring, you know, and
I was.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
I wasn't shocked. You know, she always comes across as
as a as a really nice human being. Everything with
the group. She didn't think she was any better than anybody.

Speaker 14 (49:03):
She just came and and everything was about huge competitive,
fierce competitor. But it was always team, team first. You know,
it had to be the team first. And I think
that's kind of where we clicked it. But you know,
you think the same way. You know, we have a
little chat, you know, every now and then, what do
you think, you know, who we're going to do. And

(49:23):
that was Bailer's strategy was you know, it was like
you were saying before, you know, they were decimated, but
that was you know, obviously Simon and David going out
at the same time. You know, it wasn't planned, but
it certainly helped us. But you know, we were we
were strategizing that we would just knock them, just take
them off.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
A little bit here to do something exactly.

Speaker 14 (49:43):
Even when we took their the prize of the food
prize that they won and we hit the card and
we took it.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
I just know that that's going to play a mental.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
Game on it.

Speaker 10 (49:51):
It's a mental game. Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
It's funny, like it feels like people sometimes they go
on the show expecting it just to be a TV show,
but they end up just getting into the whole experience
and in a much deeper way than they had anticipated.
That's the sense I get. Yeah, And I think it's
it's the closeness. You have no contact with the outside world,

(50:14):
so it's just you, you know, you and your little
group and them and their little group, and the production
crew and all of that around as well. But you're
just there.

Speaker 14 (50:22):
You don't know what's going on, you know, you don't
nobody gives you any news, you know, about anything that's happening.
Telephones are gone, everything's communication's gone. Yeah, so it's amazing.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
You know what was amazing was how well you ended
up sleeping really the first couple of nights. You know,
and usually you lie in bed and you're you know,
on your phone, you're making around.

Speaker 10 (50:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Yeah, you wake up in the middle of you know,
all of that. But after a while you just end
up once you got used to everybody's you know, noises noises, Yeah,
after a while you sleep, you hop in bed, lie
back and just you know, think about the day. Yeah,
and it's you know, everything was just good and you

(51:04):
just and then wake up in the morning. So jeez,
it was it was like it was really surprising. So yeah,
so you know it added you get up in the
morning and you feel good and until you have to
have rice for breakfast.

Speaker 15 (51:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Well again again, Yeah, it's not like the good old
days when they're smuggling you a few beers after the cameras. Yeah,
you know, I remember back then too, because we're on
this island in Fiji. Your out and the your souls.

Speaker 14 (51:28):
Yeah, and these Fijians that lived over that way, they
was come and give us crabs and a little bit
of fish and.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Oh good yeah, none of that. There was none of
that anymore. Yeah, it's about the boo. Would you do
it again? I would actually would you?

Speaker 4 (51:43):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Yeah, oh good man. It's so good to see you
on screen. So good to see you competing again in
twenty five years since that original experience must be something indeed, yeah, exactly,
because you have to get your six year old to
go back and watch that as well. The differences. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
oh no.

Speaker 14 (52:00):
We sit down and we watch the episodes and some
of the guys are doing ads on TV and things
like that, so you know Live is doing that.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Oh yes, she's doing that everywhere at the moment. Yeah,
you know, till he is my little daughter. Yeah, every
time that comes on to your dad. Look this, there's
your girl. There's your girl. There you said you're my girl.
You're exactly. Oh good man, Well, we loving watching you.
Thank you for agreeing to do it once again. I'm
not going to ask you if you win, but I'm

(52:28):
always trying to watch to see who's getting the winners edit,
you know, to deduce from the way the story is
being told. Yes, you're looking through a television person's eyes,
exactly exactly the person. Yeah, yeah, oh good man, Well,
thank you very much of course. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday TV
and Z two, TV and Z plus Frank Mon's good luck.

(52:48):
Thank you. It's been so good so far. This season
has already been so good before eleven o'clock. Now is
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(53:10):
and our texpert is going to explain more very shortly.
Next up, though, If you're looking for a good show
to watch or stream from the company your place to
add to Celebrity Treasure Island, our screen time expert has
his picks for this week. It's twenty one past ten.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
The best way to start your weekend Saturday Morning with
Jack Team on Newstorg zedby right Oh.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Twenty three minutes past ten and it is screen time time.
Carl Pushman is here with his screen time picks for
this weekend shows to watch from the comfort of your couch.
Good morning, Carl, Jack. Hello, and we have two new
shows streaming on Netflix this week, So let's begin with Legends.

Speaker 16 (53:51):
Yes, this is a gripping crime thriller set in nineteen
nineties England as the country battled to heroin epidemic, and
that show's title is a little bit of a play
on words here. The legend refers to a false identity
that you'd create that law enforcement agents create themselves before
going under cover. So it's that kind of legend. But
rather than following the typical highly trained police unit, Legends

(54:12):
instead tells the true story of a small team of
custom agents infiltrating two violent drug gangs that were bringing
that stuff into the country. What makes it so compelling
is that these were not pros. They were just everyday
people selected from customs agents like you see the airport
bag checking or dog sniffing or investigating male suspicious mail packages.

(54:33):
They were just everyday folks. So that just gives this
six part series an utterly compelling tension that makes more
intense viewing because every scene they're terrified they're untrained. That
just makes all the stakes and interactions with these violent
drug gangs feel incredibly high. It starts off with the
recruitment process in episode one, and that is just a

(54:54):
fantastic fun and sort of shows you what you're what
you're in for. It's very similar to how heist movies
put the teams together, and you know, I always love
that kind of thing, you know, montages and cuts and yeah,
it's just it's just one day.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
They have like the tech guy and they have that
the lockpeck are brains and the brawn and the yeah
yeah right, so has that.

Speaker 16 (55:12):
But then from there it's down to business and the
agents get split into two teams here, one attempting to
infiltrate a Liverpool gang and one team trying to infiltrate
London's insular Turkish gang. Now he's best known for comedy,
but here's Steve Coogan takes a dramatic turn. He plays Don,
the former undercover agent who's sort of responsible for this
team of unskilled customs agents trying to do this incredibly

(55:33):
skilled work, and he expertly walks the line of displaying
bureaucratic authority while also somehow still bringing comedic relief to
these scenes. He is just great and compelling, and the
ensemble cast around him just doesn't let him down at all.
Might sound bleshemous, but I'm going to invoke the spirit
of the Wire here, one of the greatest teams of

(55:53):
all times. I know, I know, Bear with Me, Legends, Bulls,
that same trick of showing you both sides of the law.
So you spend a lot of time embedded with both
the gangs. You see their workings, you get to know
the people, their networks and sort of why they're doing
what they're doing. Now, it's not the next Wire. I'm
not going to get totally carried away here, but more
than once it did remind me of that classic TV show.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (56:14):
Now, it just came out on Thursday and I've already
watched the whole thing. Oh great, it's brilliant. It doesn't
reinvent the crime thriller Wheel, but it does present one
of the best realizations of the Wheel this year.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Highly, hugely recommended, fantastic, great, I'm really excited by that.
It's always a good sign when it's only been out
forty eight hours or so and you've watched the whole thing.
We love to hear that. So that's really good. It
is so good. Yeah, cool, Okay, So that's Legends. That's
on Netflix. Next up, Also on Legends, I've seen this one,
Big Mistakes.

Speaker 16 (56:43):
Yeah, I was a bit slow to the party on
This came out a few weeks ago, and yeah, I'm
into it.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
Man.

Speaker 16 (56:48):
It's sticking with the crime theme, but much different this time.
It's a crime comedy and this was created and stars
Dan Levy, who co credits Shit's Creek with his father
Eugene Levy. But this is a very different vibe. That
was quite warm and friendly, and this is very dark
and cynical. It follows two siblings who's steal a necklace
from a two dollars year as a gift for their
dying grandmother. They put on her and the next day

(57:10):
she's buried in it. But the problem is that the
shop was a front for the mob who were hiding
a seventy five thousand dollar necklace in plain sight, and
now they want it back. So that's the first mistake
that is made. And then from there it kicks off
a series of escalating events as the pair get blackmailed
and more indebted to the mob as it goes along. Now,
the show's humor won't be for everyone. It leans heavily

(57:30):
into anxiety and awkwardness, and it's got a chaotic, very
bickering kind of energy to the show. It's if you
do like that kind of thing. It is very fun
as the peer siblings just to have a complete lack
of survival skills, which makes the interactions hilarious but also
quite stressful to watch. It is a crime comedy, and

(57:53):
they really lean into the shooting of it is it's
shot like a proper like Legends, a proper dark, gritty
crime thriller. So you have these very intense scenes, but
then they'll just start bickering between themselves with absolutely absurd
lies about each other to try and wheezlau of situations.
It's it's very very funny and has sort of a
jarring vibe vibe to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So it

(58:16):
has that tension and drama of a gritty crime thriller,
but it's also very funny. So yeah, it's chaotic, energetic, absurd,
but also very awkward, and it could be a bit
too stressful to watch with all the bickering and shouting.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
And I feel like you just have to get into
that kind of Dan Levy style humor. Like my wife
finds it so funny. She loves it's great. I mean
I find it really funny too, you know the whole
like David da you know that it is is I mean,
it is very funny and absurd is you know absurd

(58:49):
is you know, hits the nail on the head as well.
It's interesting how Dan Levy does these things with siblings.
You know that there's a lot of his sibling relationship
and you know the relationship with his parents as well,
but he really plays on the kind of adult, you know,
young adult sibling relationships. And yeah, way, and I find
it very very funny indeed. So no, that's great.

Speaker 16 (59:10):
Yeah, and here it's greatly realized in the way that
there'll be normal adults and then as soon as they
come into contact with each other.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
They revert exactly childhood selves.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
I think that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you've nailed it. Okay,
So that's Big Mistakes. That's on Netflix. Carl's first pick
for us This week Legends is also on Netflix. Before
eleven o'clock this morning, We're going to catch up with
our resident GP, so you know, you know how New
Zealand's civical screening system has recently changed. He's going to
talk us through some of the changes what their potential

(59:39):
impacts could be when he joins us very shortly. Right now,
it is ten.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Thirty getting your Weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack
Team on News talks'b.

Speaker 10 (59:55):
It's all looks like.

Speaker 8 (01:00:09):
Show them.

Speaker 10 (01:00:14):
Long Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
So beautiful, isn't it. There's something about Elvis Harding the system,
I don't know, kind of hard to put your finger on. Eccentric, enigmatic, ethereal,
the indie folk singer songwriter from Littleton, refuses to fit
the commercial mold. Yeah, she's a bit different in a
good way. It can be a little bit confusing sometimes,
but she's so clever and undeniably lovable. The Guardian called

(01:00:41):
Elds Harding one of the most original songwriters around, and
her twenty nineteen album Designer was described as simply extraordinary. Metacritic,
the global entertainment review website, listed the album as one
of the world's as the world's seventh most critically acclaimed
album of that entire year. That's worldwide, but that's a

(01:01:01):
hell of an achievement anyway. Elvis Harding has just released
her fifth album. It is called Train on the Island.
Release yesterday. Our music reviewer Chris Schultz is going to
be with us before midday today give us his thoughts.
We're going to play you a couple of songs from
Elvis Harding as well. Before eleven. Time to get your
garlic And what do you need to know if you
want to have some delicious homegrown garlic Right now it

(01:01:24):
is twenty five minutes to eleven. You have a jactay.
This is News Talks. He'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Here yourself. Think it's the my costing breakfast.

Speaker 17 (01:01:33):
DOECD had a word about New Zealand Ink yesterday? They've
weighed on the super deboate. Of course, they want eligibility
link to life expectancy. We had eventually to sixty nine.
Nicola Willis Finance Minister. They say we should be doing
something about superannuation. We're not going to so is at
the beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Of the middle in the end of no, we are
going to have to do something.

Speaker 18 (01:01:49):
If you're sensible, you listen to these facts and you think, well,
that's not sustainable. In the nineteen sixties, there were around
seven New Zealanders of working age for every person aged
sixty five or older. Today there are four, and by
twenty sixty five there will only be two. That burden
on our taxpayers is increasing significantly.

Speaker 17 (01:02:07):
Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
Defender News Talks, they'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Twenty three to eleven on news talks. But it feels
like every second week Spotify is getting into something new,
whether it's books or podcasts. Well, now it is workouts.
Spotify is adding workouts, not just playlists for your workouts,
but workout workouts. Our texpert Paul Stenhouse is a fitness
buff himself, so I'm sure, Oh yeah, all the details

(01:02:34):
for us this morning. Oh No, one likes working out
on Paul.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Oh I know.

Speaker 19 (01:02:38):
I was gonna say, here's the problem, Jack, it's the
making fitness too accessible, and I don't like that because
the excuses disappear, you know what I mean, because they
like they've even they even said in their release They're like,
you don't even need special equipment to do these classes.

Speaker 8 (01:02:53):
Yeah, yeah, I just need to be on the floor
and then do crunches.

Speaker 10 (01:02:57):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Yes, So they've partnered with Peloton.

Speaker 19 (01:03:01):
Pelotons are really big fitness hardware company, if you will.
They make bikes and rollers and treadmills and things like this.
But the thing that made Peloton different was they had
these really great workouts that actually they did live, which
is kind of fun and like you could high five
while you were on your bike and stuff, and then
the instructor would call you out and be like, yeah,
Jack Tame zero three in Auckland gave me a high

(01:03:24):
five where he's just hit two hundred classes. It's kind
of it's the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:03:27):
And the thing that's funny is they've all become all
these instructors have all become like like almost legit celebrities, celebrities.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
It's an interesting business model, right because it used to
be that you might pay for an exercise bike or
pay for a treadmill and that would be it. But
instead they help you into a subscription model as well.
Kachenkaching Oh yeah, but they did something interesting.

Speaker 19 (01:03:49):
So not totally sides there, but they used to be
really expensive and they dropped the price of them of
the of getting in which you know, they were going
through some hard times with their stock in post COVID
and blah blah blah. But this is really interesting for
Peloton too because they're still trying to find where they're
going to go next by doing some of the like
GLP one stuff. But now yeah, there trying to get
into this like this other world of licensing content and

(01:04:10):
things like that. Spotify likes it because Apple Music has
Apple Fitness, right, so now they can kind of feel
like they've got this competitive set. And to be honest,
it's it's kind of like the contents made. It's probably
pretty cheap to put on your platform, and it sounds good,
doesn't it. But but hey, if you if you're looking
for a workout, you want to go for a run
with someone, they can motivate you and yell at you

(01:04:32):
a bit, and you can.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
You Spotify open Spotify Okay. Interesting, Hey, instead of going
to a stadium for a concert, what about going to
a movie theater?

Speaker 8 (01:04:45):
Hmmm.

Speaker 19 (01:04:46):
I'm I've got mixed opinions on this. When I feel
like you, as a big Musojack might have some feelings
here too. It's just how do you make a live
concert experience that is being broadcast to theaters, because that's
what this this is what is being done over here
in the state. It's a big theater chain called AMC.
So they're gonna have effectively two ways. It's not really

(01:05:09):
like a broadcast. It sounds more like a zoom. So
the person who's putting on the show is broadcasting to
something like three hundred different theaters across America, right, But
they can also see and hear the theater back to them, right,
So it's not it's not just the one way broadcast.
It's not two way interactive.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
So in the same way that you're palatal instructor is
talking to you, they can they can see a theater
at like a movie.

Speaker 10 (01:05:33):
They can see it.

Speaker 19 (01:05:34):
They can see the movie theater of people.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
So it's like, wow, this is the like the Hoists
synonym like give us a whooo, Yes, yes, that is it.

Speaker 19 (01:05:46):
And so it's just it's it's hard to know if
this is going to be more exciting, more inviting, more enticing.
They're just sitting at home and watching a live stream.
They want you to pay between forty and seventy five dollars,
depending on the artist, and the location and the first
artist they have lined up for these one night only
concerts broadcast these movie theaters. You've probably heard of them,

(01:06:09):
but they're not big names, the people like Paris Hilton
and Competres and bb Rexer.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
So we're not talking like Coldplay. Yeah, we're not talking.
I thought for a moment you were gonna be like
Taylor's Worth's gonna do it. And I was like, okay, wow, okay,
well do you go? But no, right, it's not off Broadway,
but it's just slightly yeah. Yes.

Speaker 19 (01:06:29):
Look, here's the thing though, and here's the thing I
think it maybe has going for it. Movie theaters have
incredible sound systems.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
So if you see a lot of bones, don't you Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:06:40):
Yeah, can you imagine?

Speaker 19 (01:06:41):
I actually think it could be kind of good. But
at the end of the day, you are watching a screen.
So I do I do wonder if this is going
to be like maybe maybe it's a new creative format
for some of these artists to lean into. They've leaned
into the TikTok, yeah, maybe they'll lean into the AMC screen.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Well, you you're watching a screen, but there is still
a collective component because you're with other people watching a screen.
So maybe it's you know, it's not like you're just
sitting there watching a video on your phone.

Speaker 19 (01:07:04):
You are ever been, if you've ever been to the
movies in America, you'd already know that it is a
very collective experience.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
It is very much a collective experience.

Speaker 19 (01:07:13):
Yeah, they are the best. The thing about Americans, this
probably wouldn't work in New Zealand. Americans are like the
best audience around.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Yeah that's true, Like they really are. They themselves up
each other up. They love it, they love it. There's
a lot of commentary and wooing and yeah, yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:07:27):
Yes, you're standing up and clapping during films. It's a
whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Yeah, that's a very good point. I actually think this,
if done well, could work.

Speaker 10 (01:07:38):
Or you think it might have legs.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
I think it might have legs at least in the States.
Maybe not, maybe not in New Zealand. It's interesting though,
because I'm just thinking about a music review of Chris
and he loves live music. I actually don't know if
I've met anyone who ever, who goes to as much
live music as him, and that includes music heads in
New York who I don't think could match Chris is
like he just goes to the volume of shows that

(01:08:00):
this man manages to attend, and yet he was so
excited for Coachella a few weekends ago. He wasn't going
to Coacheller, but his plan was to make yep, he
was just going to watch the stream the whole weekend.
He loved watching the show so much and loved the
production values that they put into the Coacheller live stream
that has planned for the weekend for both weekends of Coacheller,
was just to park up in the lounge and watch Coachella,

(01:08:22):
so someone like him could absolutely, I'm sure be convinced
with fifty bucks. Yeah, will I'll ask him if.

Speaker 19 (01:08:28):
To get him to text ninety two ninety two exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Well, we help me here very soon. So I'm not
sure that Elvis Harding, though Elvis Harding's our album of
the weekend, I'm not sure that Elvis Harding is going
to be a you know, is going to be the
right fit for this kind of show. But anyway, we'll
ask him about there.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
Thank you.

Speaker 10 (01:08:40):
Paul.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
Paul Stenhouse is our textbook with us this morning. In
a couple of minutes, our resident GP doctor Brian Behy
on the new civical screening program in New Zealand and
what it might mean for you seventeen to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Well, you're heading out to start your Saturday turn off
Jack Saturday Morning with Jack tam On News Toalm seedby.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Our resident GP doctor Brian Betty is with us this
morning from Adelaide. Of all places, you know that this
is my my well sort of two doung a yy, Brian,
this is where my my one half of my family's from.

Speaker 20 (01:09:12):
Oh is it fantastic? Looks is a fantastic city. It's
a really underrated state I think in Australia and it's
just a great place to be.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
We're about to you at the moment, and we're right.

Speaker 20 (01:09:26):
In the center of Adelaide, the place called Fullerton, just
just one of the suburbs here. Went to an AFL
game last night, the Bulldogs versus Port Adelaide and you know,
good thirty eight thousand people there. Yeah, at the Oval,
great facilities, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
It was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
So outside that school board at the Oval of course.
Oh yes, So my family is from Glenside, which is
right next door to Fullerton's.

Speaker 20 (01:09:50):
Right, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Yeah, Well, the reason I'm here.

Speaker 20 (01:09:54):
I actually had a practice here many years ago for
nine years up in the country and the South Winders,
and yeah, it was a country doctor here for about
nine years. It's called Port Perrie, which is about three
hours north of Adelaide.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Yeah, are very good, obviously, no idea there you go.
Small world.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
This is a small world, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Isn't it? Anyway? This morning we are focusing on New
Zealand's cervical screening program and we've had a switch to
the self swabbing model, right, So what is HPV screening?

Speaker 20 (01:10:24):
Yeah, look really important and really important to talk about.
So look, basically what it's about is civical cancer. So
we have about one hundred and seventy cases a year
of spical cancer diagnosed every year in New Zealand, and
there's actually about fifty deaths per year, often of young
women from this very preventable disease. So HPV screening tests

(01:10:46):
for something called the human papilloma virus HPVs, that's what
it stands for, and this is the virus that causes
almost all cervical cancers. Now it replaces the traditional cervical smear,
which a lot of women will be very familiar with
in the cvical screening program. Now it's recommended for women
age sixty nine every five years to be tested. And

(01:11:11):
it's a very very simple test. The woman does it
self in private. It's a vaginal swab, it's done at
the clinic, very very easy to do, and if HPV
is detected in the swab, then we do go to
a further test such as a spiical smear, or with
certain types of HPV we refer.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Straight to the specialist because there's quite a risk.

Speaker 20 (01:11:32):
So really, really a groundbreaking change that's occurred in the
last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
And so why is that HPV screening so much better
than the traditional civical smear test.

Speaker 20 (01:11:44):
It detects the cause, which is this virus, not just
abnormal changes in the cells.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Okay, so the old smear test looked for abnormal.

Speaker 20 (01:11:53):
Cells, but this test detects the virus that causes the
changes that lead to cervical cancer. So this means essentially
earlier identification of a high risk a woman at risk
of c vical cancer. And that's the basic thing that
happens now. HPV testing and all the studies that have
been done has been shown to be a lot more

(01:12:14):
accurate at detecting the risk of civical cancer and so
fewer cases are actually messed missed compared to the old
cervical screening. So and the other big big thing is
it's every five years rather than every three years. So
there's big, big advantages to civical screening using HPV screening.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Other advances too, just being able to do it at
home and private and stuff must be.

Speaker 20 (01:12:38):
Helpful, right, Yeah, so you actually do it at the
clinic and pilot, so it's not done at time, but
you do it at the clinic. But that that's important
to state. But yeah, look, it reduces the barriers to testing.
So you know, the old cervical smear test where a
lot of women was actually quite invasive. It's doing this
HPV testing is less embarrassing and there's actually less discomfort

(01:12:59):
with it, so there's less barriers to actually having the
test done. And what's really really pleasing about this, we've
seen a big, big uptake in these tests being done
across the country.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Particularly in Mari and Pacific.

Speaker 20 (01:13:12):
Yeah, woman, and that's really really important because those rates
were really quite low. So, yeah, this has been a
big step forward and it's a really positive step and yeah,
very very pleased that it's been introduced across New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
Yeah. Great, so HPV screening is more accurate, you can
get it earlier. It's a more effective way of preventing
cervical cancer. It allows for longer and if it was
five years instead of three years self testing, it's a
big step forward to really really good to hear about it. Hey,
thank you so much, Brian, enjoy your time and adelaid
you're going to go down to go down to the
markets or something like that. You'll be off to Burns
lu oh and after the markets this morning.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
Yeah, yeah, you get.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Know that the South Australian dried a because they're so
good that compares gummy ones we often get in New Zealand.
They're really really right, they're amazing.

Speaker 20 (01:14:01):
Okay, I'll make sure I grabbed something all right, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
You can get them in a packet so you're allowed
to bring them home, don't worry. Well you and check
it off the questions when you get here. Begg you Brian,
appreciate your time. Dodtr Brian Betty with us this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
We're in the garden next guarding with steel shop with
great deals this Mother's Day.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Brook past is our man in the garden. Good morning, sir.

Speaker 9 (01:14:21):
A very good morning to you.

Speaker 10 (01:14:23):
Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Is everything okay, everything is very good, thank you. Everything
is yeah, nice, is really well. We have the leaves
are turning at our place. We've got a plane tree
in the backyard. It's so nice. I do love, you
know what. I love being able to experience seasons. I
know that sounds like a really cheesy thing to say,
but I really love. I love feeling the difference in seasons.
And it's been the weather an all clane has gone

(01:14:45):
from that. You know, it gets really sort of humid
and sticky and things over at the end of summer.
And it's just got that a beautiful Christmas in the
air at the moment. It's been almost South Island esk.
I would say, yeah. And the leaves are turning, you know,
I said, I tried to impress this on my wife.
I said, look, I said, look at that tree. This
time last week, none of those leaves had fallen. And

(01:15:06):
I look at them all now then everywhere, look at them.
And she was she didn't care. I got on the
wrong time, you know, she wasn't in the kind of
poet moment that I was.

Speaker 9 (01:15:14):
Yeah, anyway, and guess what I just I just taken
some photos of exactly that because I think I'm going
to do something about these colors for next week's program. Yeah,
and I thought it'd be nice and also how you
can get some really good compost out of it.

Speaker 20 (01:15:27):
But it's a story.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
Anyway, Okay, hey, garlic anyway, get it earlier, don't you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
Listen.

Speaker 9 (01:15:34):
Everybody always says you put garlic in the ground at
the shortest day, and you harvested on the longest day.
And if the if I've heard ten year old nonsense
like that, then I go like, hang in there, We've
got to do something else. And to be quite honest,
we've got a rust that came in about ten years ago,
which is the alim rust, which really started to do something.

(01:15:57):
And that's the rust that actually makes the garlic quite
yellow and buckly, bucky and things like that, especially in Canterbury.
And so what I found out is that if you
start earlier, you probably can do some good damage to
prevent that, you know, to stop the damage happening, so

(01:16:18):
you prevent it. And it's as simple as that. So
what I tend to do now is I've just done
it earlier this week, I am doing it at this
time of the year, and I'm going on till maybe
November be a bit earlier with the harvest, et cetera.
So that is the general general idea.

Speaker 21 (01:16:37):
First.

Speaker 9 (01:16:38):
Yeah, first of all, if you do get some of
this alium rust on your plants, the least you can
do is do some copper or copper sulfur fungicides that
you can spray, even lime sulfur if you like. And
if you do that regularly, and regularly is every two
weeks or so, you might be able to control it
a bit. But boy, it's difficult, you know, really really difficult.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
So the.

Speaker 9 (01:17:04):
Air moves this course of this particular fungus through your garden, right,
that's how it works. So if it then lands on
your leaves, the leaves go yellow, and oh yeah, very
hard to stop. So what I did in the past
was I started growing this stuff in my old tunnel house,

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which by the way, had a bit of mesh at
the bottom and it was still leaking some spores, but
it was a bit less. Now I've got a brand
new tunnel that is on the bottom all clear. Nothing
can go through. So I'm keeping my tunnel house now closed.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
Yeah, nothing goes.

Speaker 9 (01:17:43):
In there, and that's how you're going to do it.
You will get much better success. Keep an eye on it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
Yeah, okay, great, yea, thank you sir, yea. Have a
great week. Welcome and we will catch you against you.
That is Rude Climbhart our man in the garden after
leaven o'clock on News Talk to you'd be our travel
correspondent has a few treats and sights to tell us
about in Warnica. We've got your book picks for the
weekend and a brand new album from the one and

(01:18:09):
only Eldest Harding, which I am very very much looking
forward to. It is just coming up to eleven o'clock down.
It means this news time a Saturday morning. I'm Jack Dame.
This is News Talks ed be.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Where the weekend finds its rhythm. Saturday Morning with Jack
Dame on News Talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Morn the coach. Good morning and welcome to News Talks
Ed B. Jack Tame with you through the midday today.
It has to be said the conditions are looking pretty
good in Auckland today ahead of the all important A
League semi final first leg between AFC Auckland FC and
Adelaide United. This evening, I'm feeling cautiously optimistic. It was

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last year I was at the Second League of their
semi final when they of course came into the second
leg needing only a draw to go through to the final,
and things did not go their way. They were leading
one nil at halftime and then it all went tits
up unfortunately. So I'm hoping that this year in the
semifinal they can go one better and make it to

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the A League Final. It would be an amazing achievement
and only their second A League season, So very much
have my fingers and toes crossed for that kickoff six
pm tonight, an hour later than usual at go Media Stadium.
That'll be fantastic. We're going to catch up with Jason
Pine and get his thoughts on Auckland FC's prospects before
twelve o'clock, as well as that new music from Elvis
Harding that I will share with you very shortly. Right

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now though is eight minutes past eleven, and our sustainability
expert Kate Hall is with us this morning. Kelder, Kay,
good morning. What you have for us A bit of
a challenge this morning. You reckon that many people listening
right now are actually more sustainable than we might think,
and that'll come as a bit of a surprise, I

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reckon some people go, I'd like to be sustainable, but
I'm not really. But actually you have narrowed down a
list and there are fourteen different things, right, and you
reckon that at least some of us are going to
tick off more of these than we might anticipate.

Speaker 11 (01:20:39):
Yep, exactly. And I think it's mainly because if you're
thinking consciously about the budget, saving money, and you know,
just kind of conserving resources, then you end up being
more sustainable. So these are the sustainable things you're probably
already living. It's because you're just thinking resourcefully.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
Yes, okay, cool, So I'm going to tick them off?
Am I own here to see how many of the
fourteen of.

Speaker 11 (01:21:03):
Ex I'd like to know how many?

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Yeah, yeah, very much?

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
Test?

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
Yeah okay cool?

Speaker 4 (01:21:11):
So run us through them all right?

Speaker 11 (01:21:12):
So number one cooking at home instead of eating out,
so you know, kind of hanging there as a default,
do we have?

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Yeahs the default? But like, I mean, how often we
eating out like or getting takenaways?

Speaker 11 (01:21:22):
What are you thinking, let's say, you know, at least
seventy percent of your meals there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, very good. Okay.

Speaker 11 (01:21:31):
Number two buying seasonal or local produce, so you know,
not buying the oranges from the USA when they're in
the market, or.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
The mangoes in the middle of winter or whatever.

Speaker 11 (01:21:42):
Yep, exactly. We're in clothes longer and repairing them instead
of replacing them.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:21:50):
Using liftovers and stretching meals. So some people I know,
like absolutely don't don't eat leftovers and they just throw
them out. So, so you're eating your food the day after.

Speaker 10 (01:22:01):
Isn't that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
It's funny how people are like that, an't So I
get we get my food bag for a couple of
days a week just to try and help us with
meal planning because we can get but you know, there
are pinch points in the weaken out of family organization,
and we get four people even though there are only
really three adults eating, and I take the leftovers for
lunch the next day, and but my wife hates them,

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like she's just she's just not into it for whatever reason.
She's like, I know, the foods and nice, but I'm
just I don't for some reason. I just don't want
to eat leftovers, which is funny from.

Speaker 11 (01:22:31):
People who lived off leftovers Americas. Yeah, they had turned out.
Yeah right, and so now they're an adult, they're like
absolutely not not doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
Yeah, okay, now that kind of makes sense, I suppose next.

Speaker 11 (01:22:43):
Okay, five buying second hand furniture. Six traveling domestically instead
of internationally or not at all. So that's a big
one for people were forced into that a little bit.
Number seven avoiding turning the heat pump conditioning on and

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opting for either doors open if it's hot, or more
blankets it's cold.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (01:23:10):
Number eight thinking about something for a long time before purchasing.
So I've got a rule that I think about something
for at least a month before I die. Yeah, choosing
experiences is goods over buying.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
That's definitely a bit of me. There's definitely a bit
of me. Yep.

Speaker 10 (01:23:26):
Cool.

Speaker 11 (01:23:27):
Good Number ten taking the bath, walking or biking instead
of driving.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
Yep.

Speaker 11 (01:23:33):
That can include car pulling too, because I know some
people live rurally, so there's not those options. Washing your
clothes less often and only when they need it. There's
a moment and very share it online people are like, yes,
I discussed, Yeah, I washed their clothes if they smell

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or are dirty, you know, and I'm not living in
dirty clothes. No, this point is just you're not doing.

Speaker 6 (01:24:01):
It.

Speaker 11 (01:24:01):
Goes in the Yeah, yeah, yeah, actually assessing. Yeah. Yeah,
number twelve, doing fuller loads in the washing machine instead
of small frequent washers.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:24:13):
Number thirteen. Bring a drink bottle everywhere you go instead
of buying drinks out.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
Mm hmmm yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:24:19):
My last one, ye yeap is making coffee at home
instead of buying daily coffees often indisposable cups. So it's
really good coffee, you know. Yeah, drinking coffee all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Wow, of the even I'm surprised, honestly, I reckon I'm
at about teen or eleven. There are a couple of
little fifty to fifty ones.

Speaker 22 (01:24:41):
In there, you know.

Speaker 11 (01:24:42):
Yeah, yeah, I mean some of them are vague and
hard to quantify that. Yeah, people can use common sense
and yeah, feel really proud of your number.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Yeah that is that is pretty good, and honestly, because
like I often think, For example, I ride my bike
all the time. Everyone knows this, but I ride my
bike all the time, and I often think, well, that's
like probably the biggest kind of sustainable thing I do,
you know, But then when you line it up with yeah,
eight or nine other other things in here, actually, maybe

(01:25:10):
just call me an eco warrior, you know, just call me.

Speaker 11 (01:25:15):
Zack from Hence for I reckon.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
There might even be some fourteen's out there people who
But the tey is if you're fourteen and you don't
and you don't necessarily think of yourself as being super sustainable,
but this is the point. Often often being more sustainable
and being more budget conscious go hand in hand. The
ven diagrams have a lot of yeah space.

Speaker 11 (01:25:34):
Well, when we talk about different things like this, it's
often like these are things that like how grandparents did
or you know, these are the things that we did
when kind of resources were less abundant. Like now it's
like we can just buy cheap stuff on temu and
and we feel like we're entitled to be able to
drive you vera and all that stuff. And it's like, actually,

(01:25:55):
when we think about resources and cost and all those things,
if we're living more frugally, we are living more sustainably.
And it's not you know, you don't have to go
and buy the three hundred dollars saying we made dress
you know exactly great things and you can actually live
a really sustainable, affordable lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
Oh very good, Thank you so much, Kate. You can
find Kate on social media to search ethically Kate. Her
name will pop right up and we'll put that list
of the fourteen things so you can check yourself against
it up on the news talks. He'd be website right
in a couple of minutes. How Travel correspondent is in.
He's looking at Wanaka this week. His favorite trails and
treats around Wanaka too are There are a few treaty

(01:26:36):
spots in Wana. Crime a big fan of as well.
So Mike's going to be here to give us his
top tips. Right now. It's quarter past eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Travel with Wendy Wu Tours Where the world is yours for.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
Now seventeen past eleven. Now, Travel Correspondent is Mike Yardly.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Good morning Mike, Good morning Jack.

Speaker 8 (01:26:55):
The return of the horses. All is good in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
So I still what I still don't really understand is
I just feel like Crusader's management would have like when
they said the horses, We're not going to be possible
in the new stadium. I just feel like they would
have exhausted every possibility. That was going to be such
a contentious call, you know, it was going to people
be so upset about it that I just had anticipated
they would have said, you know, can like they every

(01:27:20):
single possibility they would have considered, and then it was like, ah,
we announced it. And you know, when Colin mains Push
did that announcement, he was like, he seemed quite emotional
about it, and then it was like, oh'out a solution.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:27:31):
Well, I got on Colin's case a couple of days
after he did that very emotional announcement, and I reckon
looking back, if he could turn back the clock where
he went wrong, as he should never have used the
word retired, like it was so definitive the way he
did it. Obviously they had a lot of things on
there to do list, you know with super Round, but

(01:27:52):
to say we are retiring the horses was just a mistake.
In hindsight. He should have said, look, you know, it's
in the two hard basket at the moment. We'll review
it after we get super Round out of the way.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
But so good to have it back.

Speaker 8 (01:28:05):
It just feels complete.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Yeah, well, that performance last night. Yes, if it was
inspired by the horses, I'm not sure, but it was
that was complete. I'll take it. Yeah, exactly. We're looking
at Warnaca this morning. Some of your favorite around Warnica.
So for a leisurely waterfront, where do the locals go
these days?

Speaker 8 (01:28:26):
Well, they don't go and look at the one aka
tree Joe.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
No, please say that.

Speaker 8 (01:28:33):
If you're done with the tree, follow the locals past
the marina to Early Point and beautiful Bremna Bay. The
really cool thing, Jack is from Bremner Bay. There is
this track called the Beacon Point Walking Track, so it
skims along the shoreline all the way to the outlet,
which is where the Upper Kluther River begins its long

(01:28:55):
march to the sea. And you see those beautiful, glacial
fed emerald waters of the Kluther bubbling out of that outlet.
The other really curious thing about this walking trail at
Beacon Point is it's home to what the locals previously
named Millionaires Row. So you've got all of those lake
front holiday trophy homes almost swinky billers. Nowadays, it probably

(01:29:18):
should be called Billionaires Row given the prize of real estate,
but it's serious real estate porn around Beacon Point and
it's where a lot of ultra wealthy Americans and a
listers like Oprah will stay under the radar in New
Zealand at Beacon Point. So it's a fascinating walk to take.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
I'm very good, okay, I mean, Wica's not short of
cycle trails these days either. So what ride would you recommend?

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:29:46):
I checked out something I hadn't done before, and a
really good option, club the twin lakes of Harwire and
Wanaka together. So start from Lake Harwere and admire all
of that gin clear clarity of Lake are Were. Then
head down on the Harware River track, so that takes

(01:30:06):
you from the lake all the way down to Alberttown
and I've got this fantastic suspension bridge across the river
for cyclists. And then at Alberttown switch onto the Atlet
track all the way back to Wanaica, so you'll end
up back on you know, Beacon Point and Bremna Bay.

(01:30:26):
It's all off road between Lake are Were and Wonica
on this track, so you've got thirty k off road
and it just distills so many beautiful landscapes into one
cranking ride.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
Oh amazing. So what are the highlights.

Speaker 8 (01:30:41):
Well, if you know where to look, you will see
Annabel Langbnes rather bountiful property. Also Richie mccau's dream home
on the route, but on the athlete track. Jack, at
this time of year. I heard you talking to Nadia
last hour. Yeah, with all that leaf fall at the
moment around the water's edge by the upper Kluther River.

(01:31:03):
Oh my goodness, deep autumn. It's the stuff of legends.
So you just are riding over a blizzard of crinkled
brown and gold leaves. It is crunch, crunch, crunch under
your bike wheels all the way. But I reckon a
lot of people go to Albertown, Jack, simply to offset
they rather virtuous exercise with the dose of decadence. Because

(01:31:25):
Alberttown is home to Pembroke Ptisserie, world famous in Wanaka.
This is the place for artisan pastries and baked treats,
pressure out of the oven. I don't think I have
come across such enormously sized vanilla slices ever before in
my life.

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
This is the first place I went last I was
on wica Is the first was my first stop. The
next morning, I got a super late at night. It
was up in the next morning and straight into it.
So what are the standouts from the cafe scene.

Speaker 8 (01:31:56):
Well, I'm a huge fan of Scroggin back in the
heart of town and it always pulled such a perky crowd,
doesn't it. For breakfast, you're just elbow to elbow with
a local calls and I've got really good pastries and
savory delights there. But if you do want something more substantial,
go there for brunch and sink into one of the

(01:32:17):
epic roasted lamb toasties. The lamb is sourced up the
road from Royal Burner on Crown Terrace, a lah Nadi Limb,
and as you'd expect from a place called Skrogan, they
do sell fantastic bags of trail mix to go.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
Ah so good, sounds so good, so weird as good
for evening dining. If you're looking for something a little more,
you know, sit down.

Speaker 8 (01:32:42):
Yeah, well I checked out Sophie. It's just a year
old and they do a lot of Mediterranean chaerplates, things
like pawn saganaki. But I thought of you, Jack, because
I dove into a cheese goslimeh a all apart melt
in your mouth delight of flaky golden flat bread and

(01:33:02):
they drizzled it in lemon, honey and sesame. Oh my goodness,
I would just go for that if you're a carnivore.
Titty Tier steakhouse really good. Try to be a wild
venison which they slather and a pomegranate glaze. And Titty Tea,
by the way, is home to my new favorite cocktail.
This could be cocktail of the season, a drunken Snowmen.

(01:33:27):
This is so easy to do it. It is hot
chocolate and Bailey's and you just top it with a
little dollar of ice cream. So do that at home
this winter.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
You later, have I told you about my thing for Baileies,
I'm gonna rehab well, deep down, I'm just an eighty
year old man, you know. I just like it's something
I've just my brother and I who's similarly similarly minded.
We both have a real thing for Bailey's when we
just like just sit down, just have a little Baileies

(01:33:58):
of an evening when we get together. So yeah, no,
that is honestly, if you can make Baileies even sweeter.
I mean, is kadrona distillery still worth a jornd?

Speaker 4 (01:34:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:34:09):
Definitely, And it's only about thirty minutes drive from Wanica.
Of course, their single malt whiskey Jack continues to earn
global accolades. But I would go there for lunch because
you are dining under New Zealand's biggest chandelier. It is
quite a sight to behold that chandelier. But they do
really good things like Canterbury bacon butties with chili jam

(01:34:30):
and mayo. And I really loved their crayfish rolls, which
they serve with hazel nut and forage terbs. Really good
eats at that distillery.

Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
If you're traveling with kids, where would you rely in
taking them?

Speaker 8 (01:34:44):
Well, I've just had a nosey around the National Transport
and Toy Museum for the first time. So they've got
four hangars of collections at this museum. It's right next
to the airport, one hundred thousand items, so it's quite eclectic. Yeah,
they've got everything from classic cars that were in the
movie World Fastest Indian you are retiredy in New Zealand,

(01:35:07):
Foker Friendships, then the most colossal station of nostalgia toys
and if you're wondering what happened to the old Winking
Center that used to grace Queen Street, it's there. So
this museum, which is actually considered the largest private collection
of stuff on display in the Southern Hemisphere, is quite

(01:35:29):
their heads.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
Well.

Speaker 8 (01:35:29):
In fact, I felt like a drunken snowman after touring
the museum.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
That's amazing. Yeah, I had no idea it was that big,
one hundred thousand items.

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
Yeah, bananas and counting.

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
Yeah, well, I don't blame you for the drunken snow man.
Just make sure if you're getting the kid's version, you
ensure that you don't get mixed up. Get the bailies
in the rock drag. Yeah, yes, thank you so much, Mike.
That sounds amazing. She'spent so many things to do in
Wannaker and like you say, so good to go outside
and enjoy that crisp air right around the lake, enjoy
the vistas and then you know, have something to celebrate afterwards.

(01:36:03):
So we'll put all of Mike's tips for his top
train and treats around one cut up on the News
talks 'b website. Now before midday, we've got that brand
new album from Eldest Harbing that we're going to play you.
So it's her fifth album and it's called Train on
the island. It's a little bit different from what I've
heard so far. Very thoughtful, which is what you would expect.

(01:36:26):
But we're going to play you a couple of tracks
before twelve o'clock so you can have a bit of
a listen. We'll get our music reviewers thoughts on that
as well. It was only released yesterday, so he's listened
to it a couple of times and done, we'll give
us his hot take. Just coming up to to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
Thirty, getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack
Team on News Talks.

Speaker 23 (01:36:48):
Edbug, I mean the sound hasn't changed.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
It has to be said, you would not believe that.
You would not believe that that is new music from
the Rolling starts from their fourth coming twenty fifth studio album,
Foreign Tongues, which is due out on July tenth. I mean,
my goodness, we've been celebrating David Atton returning one hundred
this morning, but Jason Pine, that is I mean that

(01:37:40):
that is an entirely separate accomplishment worth celebrating, Is it not? Absolutely?
Keith Richards, how old would he be met Jegger?

Speaker 24 (01:37:49):
I'd have to be in their eighties.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
Those guys would they you know, they say you have
your age, and then you have you have your biological age,
so be interested to know what Keith Richard's biological age was.
Good on them. What a full life anyway, Great to
see you, sir, your two massive weekend of sport, massive
afternoon of sport. Auckland FC in the First League of
the A League semi final against Adelaide United this evening,

(01:38:13):
and it was this time last week, of course we
were lamenting the injury list for Auckland FC, wondering who
was going to score the goals. Sam Cosgrove was looking
like he could be in doubt. Jesse Randall looked like
he might have some injury problems as well. And I
distinctly recall a Jason Pine saying, who knows who's going
to stand up? Maybe it could be central defender Dan Hall,
famed for his sturdy defense, not for his goal scoring abilities.

(01:38:36):
And who was it? Who was it? After what six penalties?
Who stepped up and slotted the winner? Dan Hall? It
was called it?

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
It was called it.

Speaker 24 (01:38:45):
Yeah, it was a delight to get your text actually
shortly after full time with just with two words Dan Hall.

Speaker 4 (01:38:51):
Yeah, we got it.

Speaker 24 (01:38:53):
I mean yeah, what a game last week, the excitement
of it. Look, Auckland had it, and then four minutes
into stoppage time no one said equalize and we go
to extram penalies and there's nothing that matches the drama
and the emotion of a penalty shootout. We're not going
to get that tonight because you say it's the first leg,
so at full time tonight it's halftime in the tie.
So then you start thinking, Okay, what is a good

(01:39:13):
result to take to Adelaide with you. Obviously they don't
want to be behind, but would they need to be
ahead to give themselves a really good chance? I mean,
clearly they'd like to be one to tune up if
they go over there, if they go over their level,
I think the tie swings in Adelaide's favor. Is the
secret about that They've got a cauldron at Cooper's Stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
They're at home.

Speaker 24 (01:39:32):
If it goes to extra time and penalty, sty'll have
that advantage next weekend. So I get the feeling Aukland
f C. We'll stick to their DNA. They'll go out
in the tack, they'll try and score goals, and whether
it's Dan Hall or Sam Cosgrove or somebody equally unlikely
as far as Hall's concerned. Tonight, I don't know, but
I think if they were to take a lead to Adelaide,
they would back themselves to close it out in the
second leg. So look for them to get on the

(01:39:53):
front foot early tonight and you put a bit of
pressure on Adelaide and see how that goes.

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
Did they do that thing? When know whether they put
them in a hotel last week the night before the game.
Do they do that thing again this week?

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
They have?

Speaker 24 (01:40:04):
Yeah, footballers and sports people are very superstitious, aren't they.
So yep, they've done the same thing. They stayed together
last Friday night to try and I guess, you know,
get a bit of a bonding gar that sort of
stuff and make it feel a bit like an away
trip because as Steve Corker said on match day at home,
we get together ninety minutes before the game starts. You know,
we don't go for our team walk, we don't do
any of that. We just turned up in our own

(01:40:24):
private cars and go to the game. But yeah, they
did it last week. It worked, so yep. Overnight last
night they stayed at a hotel in the Auckland CBD.
They would have been out for their team walk, no doubt,
and they'll start preparing for a six o'clock kick off.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
Yeah, very good. Cannot wait for that busy show this afternoon.
You are looking at various components in New Zealand rugby. Yeah, absolutely,
we've got the got the head HON Show. Who is
now the official head HON Show. Steve Lancaster, who's been
inter and boss for the last six months, is now
the permanent CEO. He's got the job, so he's on
the show after midday. A lot to chat to him about,
keen to tend to find it where his focus lies

(01:40:58):
and got a couple of couple of interesting little conversation pointers.
I want to I want to throw the way of
Steve Lancaster. Damien McKenzie's on the show. The Chiefs winning
last night, tough game it was and the Crusaders got
their horses back. I know what's going on down there,
and mean it was great. They got their horses back
and they beat the Blues at home in front of
her basically sold out one Newsyal Stadium. It's like like

(01:41:22):
Christmas has all come at once for Crusaders fans. Very
pleased to see that, all right, looking forward to this afternoon,
so thank you very much. And yeah, looking forward to
walk and FC and of course the Phoenix Women this
weekend and playoff football. Right now, it's twenty five to
twelve or four twelve o'clock Train on the Island, Elvis
Harding's new album, and next up, we've got your book
picks for this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
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Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
Twenty three minutes to twelve on News Talks z'b so.
Kate Haul, our sustainability expert, was giving us her list
of things that were surprisingly sustainable. We're saving money but
also sustainable given so many of us are doing it
pretty tough at the moment. Jack, the common sense suggestions,
says Kay. Yep, totally agree. Jack, Maybe add to the list.

(01:42:11):
Don't sit in the car with the engine on and
the AC going like the car beside me, says someone
on the text. That's a very good point. We had
a bit of a disaster this week. We had a
friend borrow our car and we've got like a hybrid,
so not a plug in hybrid, but just you know,
a hybrid. That can go a wee distance with the
battery and you know, you can sit at the traffic
lights and it's not turning the engine over anyway. Sometimes

(01:42:34):
it can be a bit confusing because we live on
a hill and if you drive down the hill before
you park at home, it goes into EV mode rather
than having the petrol engine turning over. And so our
friend parked the car and of course couldn't hear the
petrol engine and was distracted for a moment, so thought

(01:42:55):
they had turned the car off. And then we got
home like six or seven hours later, and the car
when the car was running. I totally understandable. Well stay
honestly one that I've made before as well, because it's
so quiet when the EV thing's running that you don't notice,
right and you're used to hearing the combustion engine turning

(01:43:17):
over and anywhere one of those things. Hopefully you only
do it once. Right time to get your book packs
of this week weekend. Katherine Range, our book reviewer, has
her two recommendations for as Calder Catherine Morning Jack. Let's
begin with the new book from Caro Claire Burke tell
us about Yesteryear.

Speaker 15 (01:43:37):
So this is essentially a time travel novel set on
this very interesting premise. So you meet this woman, Natalie
Halla Mills, and she's this YouTuber. She's living this very
kind of perfect, seemingly perfect life as an influencer. She's
got eight million followers, and she's documenting her beautiful farm
life with her husband Caleb, and her five children with

(01:43:59):
a sixth on the way, and this very what's termed
tread life now and she's obsessed with being good and
likable and obedient and you know, morally right and ironically,
these traits are the things that are making her very miserable.
And you know, behind the scenes of this life, everything's
choreographed perfectly. There's nannies and farm hands and producers and everything,

(01:44:22):
you know, keeps her life in this perfect state. And
then one morning she wakes up and she just can't
work out quite what's going on. Things aren't quite right.
The house is not quite is her house but not
her house, and her husband, while familiar, is not quite
harm and her kids really aren't her kids, and she's
really confused, and she's actually appears that she's woken up

(01:44:43):
in the eighteen hundreds. And as the story progresses, you
hear about her life in her time now and what's
going on. And you know, this life that she set
up to a scholarship to an elite college and she
felt she didn't fit in there, and her husband Caleb,
who hasn't turned out to be the man that she
thought he would be. And you get this novel telling
you about the sort of disparity between online personas and

(01:45:05):
reality and this cancel culture and social culture and modern
America and this influencer lifestyle, and it sharply focuses on
this sort of traditional fame and faith and social commentary.
And it's really thought provoking and it's really interesting and
not what I expected at all, but it is really
really well done.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
Okay, great. So that's Yesteryear by Caro clear Burke. You've
also read True Crime by Patricia Gornwell, So.

Speaker 15 (01:45:31):
This is Patricia Cornwall's memoir and she's most well known
for her Scarpetta series about this character pathologist doctor k Scarpetta,
and it somewhat mirrors her own life. And she goes
right back to her childhood, which was really traumatic. She
was raised by what you can only describe some pretty
awful parents. Her father left them on Christmas Day, her

(01:45:54):
mother ends up being institutionalized twice. She ends up in
this foster family who were abusive, and then she develops
this really interesting kind of only really termed parental relationship
where the evangelist Billy Graham's wife Ruth, and then she
ends up in hospital. She has a near death car accident,
and all of these obstacles in her life, and you
can really see where her drive and her awm brition

(01:46:16):
comes from. And she ends up at one point in
her life in mursed in law enforcement and forensic science,
and she becomes the Chief Medical Examiner of Virginia, and
you just this whole kind of you know, her life
kind of goes in one direction and then it flicks
into another. And this life that began in poverty and
then she ends up spending time and the friendship of
politicians and celebrities and these redirections in her career path.

(01:46:39):
And she's had the most fascinating life and done all
sorts of things in her in her time. And you know,
there's parts of her story that are really difficult to read,
but she really interesting, she's intriguing, and it's you know,
an auto autobiography that I feels a very candid reflection
of her life. But yeah, really interesting woman well with reading.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
Okay, cool, so that is true crime. That's by Patricia Cornwell.
Catherine's first book is Yesteryear by Caro clear Burke. Those
times titles and all the info uned is up at
News Talk, se B, dot co dot m Z.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
Sweet ass.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
Listening for your Saturday Saturday Morning with Jack Day on
News Talks at B.

Speaker 10 (01:47:21):
Stealinture Red, Try and Live.

Speaker 8 (01:47:33):
Read Run the Agent, stealin.

Speaker 22 (01:47:43):
Thinguture Red, Try and Leaveland.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
Read Run Age.

Speaker 3 (01:47:55):
Thissus Elvis Harding. The song is Venus in the Sinea Zina.
I think I'm saying that right, Venus in the zena
in the Her new album is Trained on the Island.
And Chris Eltz our Music Review has been listening Kilda
Kilda Jack.

Speaker 25 (01:48:11):
Yeah, it's New Yellow Music Month. There's so much happening,
Split Ends playing Spark Arena tonight and tomorrow, shows that
are almost sold out, the Alter Music Awards at the.

Speaker 10 (01:48:19):
End of the month.

Speaker 25 (01:48:20):
There are shows and albums coming out everywhere. To me,
it's all centered around this new oldest Harding album. She
is my favorite New Zealand artist. She doesn't make a
lot of music. She sort of goes away and spends
time by herself, and then she comes back with like
another perfect tense.

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
She seems like an extremely interesting person, but we don't
know anything. I think that's it.

Speaker 25 (01:48:42):
I think I can tell you she lives in Wales,
she used to live in Littleton, and her and Marlon
Williams were once together.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
That's about all you know more than that. Yeah, but
that's the thing she let her music that she is beautiful.
She makes beautiful, beautiful, kind of thoughtful, interesting music.

Speaker 2 (01:48:59):
But really intricate music.

Speaker 25 (01:49:01):
And so you listen to it, Yes, it's it's it's
delicious to listen to and it makes your ears saying.
And then when you start diving into it, and you
do need to dive into it to try and understand it,
then that's when things get interesting. That's when your lyrics
start popping out. That's when you start piecing things together.

(01:49:21):
And she just got this way with words that just
makes me melt into a puddle. Like she'll just phrase
something and then she'll come back to it and maybe
the inflection is just a little bit different. Maybe she's
just rephrased it a little bit, and it completely changes
the tone, and so yeah, I read a review yesterday
of Trained on the Island that said, you need to
be like Molder and Scully. You need to sort of
be a forensic scientist. You need a notepad and a

(01:49:43):
magnifying glass and fingerprint dusting kit to try and understand
what she's doing.

Speaker 20 (01:49:48):
And it's true.

Speaker 25 (01:49:49):
I've been listening to this album all week, and I
thought I had it right, like Train on the Island.
It's such a great metaphor for like going nowhere to
the same old stuff. And then I just thought, no,
it's not about that, because it's too on the nose
for her, like it's got to be about more. And
so I started listening and then I got more confused,
but then I fell in love with the music more.

(01:50:10):
And so it's that kind of magic trick. That's what
she does to you. Every time she does it to
you live too, by the way she has this way
of pulling you in. She is touring in November. I
thoroughly recommend if you haven't seen her live, to go
and go.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
And cho her out.

Speaker 25 (01:50:26):
It's such an intense experience. You'll come out and confront
the crowd. She won't see anything, She'll just eyeball them
and expect them to be quiet. And I've been in
the crowd when she's done that for like two minutes,
just sat there staring at people in the front rows,
and you're standing there kind of going, don't look at.

Speaker 4 (01:50:43):
Me, at me.

Speaker 25 (01:50:46):
I also like, I saw her play at Womad, which
is like the most perfectly serene setting. There's a motor
around the stage, you're on a grass embankment, and she
played the bleakest hour of music I think I've ever
seen played live. And afterwards me and my wife stood
up and hugged and like checked them with each other.
We were like, are you okay? Everyone was crying and
this same thing, and we're like, what do we do

(01:51:07):
to recover? So we went and got donuts. We sit
in a donut queue and we're standing there and Oldest
Hearting got in the queue behind us, and we couldn't
talk to her. We were too scared of her. But
clearly she needed donuts.

Speaker 3 (01:51:18):
Yeah, to recover. Donuts put us through.

Speaker 25 (01:51:21):
So get a box of donuts and enjoy the new
Oldest Harding album this weekend.

Speaker 16 (01:51:26):
That's what you need to go with that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
Amazing because she was friends with Nadia Reed at school together.
There you go, Logan Park High School and Donners they
were friends together. How about that?

Speaker 25 (01:51:36):
Okay, yeah, she's from that litt of them's got this
amazing yeah, yeah, this is it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
And then they almost everyone moved to Littleton and then
that was that was the that was the new scene.

Speaker 10 (01:51:45):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (01:51:45):
It does have an amazing kind of Yeah, you know,
for whatever reason, it has been the home for so
many of our best and brightest musicians. So, like you say,
she's going to be touring later this year November twenty fifth,
twenty seven, twenty eighth, twenty ninth in Hamilton, christ yitch
Auckland and Wellington. What did you give train on the

(01:52:05):
island as a whole? It's not quite five, but it
could be so right, four and a half okay, okay,
Well it's only just been released, so I can come back.
Yeah exactly. You can come back and give us a
five and two weeks if you want. Hey, while we've
got you. We were talking about expert before eleven o'clock
this morning, about this growing this idea to be streaming

(01:52:27):
concerts live into movie theaters in the US. And so
the idea is that the musician can interact with different
theater audiences around the country, I suppose potentially around the world,
so you could say are you there, like are you
there silvi apart, give me a woo, you know. And
apparently these musicians are going to be selling tickets for

(01:52:48):
forty five dollars up to about seventy five dollars. And
our texpert was wondering who would be into this, and
I said, you would be the pison to ask would
you do that? Would you go to a live because
in a way you still have a collective experience. Obviously
if you're there in person, it's a better thing you do.

Speaker 25 (01:53:04):
But I wouldn't want artists to be using that as
a for not touring here. And I think that's the
that's definitely a trend. Like Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish
both released like movie films of their concerts. Yes, and
Billy I just just had one come out and now
she did famously didn't tour here on her last time. Yeah, yeah,
which thing's really unfair. I feel like that would be
great if they were also touring here. Yes, otherwise, so

(01:53:25):
it's an and not an and or. Yeah, otherwise, it's
a bit of a slap on the face for fans.
You know you can't come to the show, but how
about sitting in a movie theater?

Speaker 3 (01:53:32):
Yeah, how about you paying me for fifty bucks in
you Yeah? Thanks, yeah, yeah, no, peir Cal Okay, we're
gonna have a bit more of a listen to train
on the island in a couple of minutes. Thank you
so much, Chris, have a great weekend. You can hear
more from Cress of course on his sub stack boiler room.
Right now. It is eight minutes to twelve your.

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
Weekend stance right here Saturday morning with Jack dam on
News Talk.

Speaker 4 (01:53:54):
Zi'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:53:56):
But ho, it is just coming up to twelve o'clock
on News Talks, he'd be, which means Jason Pine is
about to sit down with the new official CEO of
New Zealand Rugby, Steve Lancaster, with him this afternoon. Jason
has some really interesting little points that he's going to
be asking Steve about about. I think it'll be really
good to distinguish Steve's vision for rugby in New Zealand

(01:54:17):
from that of his predecessors. Rugby obviously going through a
bit of a tricky period at the moment, so very
much looking forward to that interview and what Steve has
to say for everything from our show news talks, He'd
be dot co dot nz is the best place to go.
Everything from the show is up there. That delicious seafood
charter recipe we shared a little earlier all of our

(01:54:37):
top picks for films, for TV shows, books as well.
It's all up on the website. My massive thanks to Heidi,
our producer, for pulling everything together for today's show. I'm
going to be back with your next Saturday morning from
nine am. Until then, go Auckland FC. Have a great
week and see you so. And this is Eldus Harding
and one stop.

Speaker 10 (01:55:01):
Alone.

Speaker 22 (01:55:08):
I'm gonna right word and all kick around on the
big ground soul Lord, that's all send me up, kind
of can't get down. I'm wearing big grass to town.
I rememb myself all, I read myself all.

Speaker 21 (01:55:31):
And iginy and iginy from the wall. Why I wouldn't
I hold to meet your Why wouldn't know?

Speaker 10 (01:55:46):
I want to hole? I wanna know to meet your
Why wouldn't know I want to home? Why wouldn't know
what to meet your?

Speaker 12 (01:55:56):
Well?

Speaker 10 (01:55:57):
I wouldn't want a hole where I wouldn't know I
want to mature. Why I wouldn't know what to hold?
You see, I'm never going to believe I Why? Why

(01:56:40):
am way alone?

Speaker 20 (01:56:42):
Man?

Speaker 22 (01:56:43):
Whee, I'm not doing it again unless.

Speaker 10 (01:56:53):
You want to do it again.

Speaker 1 (01:57:15):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live
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