Full Show Podcast: 11 April 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Your weekend starts right here.

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Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News Talks Edby.

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In New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Good morning, Welcome to News Talks EDB. I'm Jack Tame
with you through the midday today. Honestly, it is eerily
quiet where I am this morning. I'm in Auckland waiting
for the storm to bear down on the upper part
of the North Island, and there is just not a
breath of wind. It's almost perfectly silent outside. Honestly that

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there isn't a time any bit of movement for the
trees in my backyard. It's kind of spooky knowing what's coming.
But wherever you are, if you even have a tiny
chance of being in the path of the storm, now
is the time to get moving. If you haven't got
organized already. There are heaps of taps up at NEWSTALKSHADB

(01:25):
dot co dot instead, all of the warnings from the
Met Service and the various authorities, plus advice on the
things you should have ready at your place, food, water, batteries,
all that good stuff. But now's the time to get
yourself organized. So if you've been putting things off, if
you've been busy over the last couple of days, about
twenty four hours at the moment, until the worst of

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the storm is expected to be hitting the New Zealand coast.
We're going to keep you up to date, of course
on newstalks. He'd be throughout the day as we get
more updates from the powers that be. But now is
the time to act, So don't put it off. Don't
be blase, don't be that guy who says, oh, you know, oh,
this will just be nothing, this will just be nothing,
because if it's not nothing, you'll be so right busy

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show for you this morning. Our feature INTERVW after ten
o'clock this morning is Robert England, aka the original Freddy
Krueger from A Nightmare on Elm Street. He's had this
kind of remarkable career in that he is a professionally
trained Shakespeareian actor who became one of the biggest names
in horror. And I'm going to ask him a little

(02:28):
bit about the kind of moment that horror films are
experiencing right now. You take a look at Sinners, for example,
and this year's Oscars. I think I think horror is
going through a bit of a moment, so I'm going
to ask him about that. Before ten o'clock. Cook has
a recipe a soup for a storm, just to you
organize for the next couple of days, A delicious, hearty,

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healthy hot option if you are expecting things to be
pretty wild at your place. Right now, it's nine minutes
past nine, Jack Team, nine days, twenty two hours and
thirty two minutes. That's how long the Artemis two crew
has been away, and as we speak this morning, they
are entering the fire final critical hours of their mission,

(03:09):
all going well. By the time Jason Pine welcomes you
to Weekend Sport right after the meddanews on Newstalk Z'B
at about twelve o seven on the Dot, the capsule
will have just splashed down in the Pacific Ocean. The
four astronauts, who have traveled further from Earth than any
other human beings ever, will be fished out and whisked

(03:34):
off home to NASA and time for supper. As someone
who wasn't here for the Apollo missions, Artemis two, I
think represents the most exciting crude space mission of my life.
There have been other big moments, rescue missions, to the
International Space Station perilous repair jobs that have needed specialist

(03:56):
high wire space walks. But Artemis is the first crude
mission to leave low Earth orbit since Apolo seventeen, and
that was fifth fifty four years ago. For me, I
think that's what is significant. When many of us think
of the view of Earth from space, we think of

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something from the movies. Ah. You know, if I say
imagine Earth from outer space, you probably think of something
like Earth rise, a marble hanging in space. I actually
have that photograph hanging on our wall at home, and
you know, it's kind of like it's it's nice, it's
almost seductive to just pause for a moment and think
of our planet in the context of the big Black

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But actually that is not what most astronauts see. I've
done the maths. Well, no, I've not done the maths,
but I have looked up the maths. I've looked up
the geometry. So the International Space Station orbits the Earth
at a distance of about four hundred kilometers, so about

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ten or twelve times the cruising altitude of a passenger jet.
Obviously that's high, but if you look out of the
window of the International Space Station at that altitude. The
Earth is right in front of you, and rather than
a sphere floating in space, it looks like a giant
curved surface. It's actually almost like being being in an

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imax or something like that, I think. So it takes
up a big part of your visual field, but not
quite all of it, but it's kind of the dominant
thing in front of you. Right, You've got to go
more than twice as far if you want to see
the whole Earth as a sphere. So at one thousand
kilometers it still fills a huge part of your visual field,
but you have to kind of scan your eyes from

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left to right to be able to take it all in.
You've got to go even further. You've got to go
a whole lot further ten thousand k's to see the
whole Earth, to see the whole thing, the whole sphere,
the whole shebang without moving your eyes. And I reckon
that this is when the most sign magnificant shift must
take place for astronauts soaking in that view. It's a

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view that no one has had in more than fifty years.
Artemists two didn't just travel ten thousand k's where you
can see the whole Earth the hole severe air without
moving your eyes. Artemist two traveled four hundred thousand k's.
So what are you doing right now? Can you just

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for a moment extend your arm right, extend your arm
full length out in front of your face, hold it
up in the air a little bit if you like,
and put your thumb out. Okay, now look at your
thumb in the context of your whole visual field. Look
how small it is. So that is how big the
Earth would have looked to those astronauts at that distance.

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That's how big the Earth would have been from four
hundred thousand k's. I said at the dinner table with
our nine year old this week as the art of
his crew for their forty minutes of unbreakable solitude, that
little window of uncontactableness as they passed by the far
side of the moon, and he just had so many questions,

(07:17):
he was so full of wonder with the whole thing,
and almost every time he started with but how do
they my answer was, well, maths, Maths is how they
do it. I can only imagine what the Apollo missions
must have been like to follow from Earth. It just
must have been insane, just extraordinary, and maybe The difference

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this time around is the technology. The photos sent from
the crew are beamed back to Earth and almost immediately
shared by NASA. The interactive tools online let you plot
the capsule's route, and you don't have to be a
nine year old to feel the wonder. You don't have
to be four hundred thousand kilometers from home to hold

(08:03):
your hand and your thumb up in the air and
have a live sense of what those crew members must
feel when they look back at our planet as a
distant sphere in the epic vastness of space. It just
must make all of our quibbles, all of our disputes,
all of our conflicts, seem so petty and trivial, simultaneously

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humbling and profound. Jack ninety two ninety two is the
text number. If you want to send me a message
this morning, don't forget. You can email me as well.
Jacket Newstalk said b dot co dot in set. And
if you are going to see in a text, standard
text costs apply. We're going to look at how the
storm and the forecast is affecting various sporting competitions over

(08:53):
the weekend. The supercars, of course, have returned to topor
but they've had to completely up end the whole schedule
to try and get in before the worst of the weather.
So our Sporto will be in so and we'll have
your film picks for this weekend before ten o'clock as well.
But Kevin Milm will get us off for our Saturday
Morning together next Right now, it's quarter past nine, I'm
Jack Tame Saturday Morning and this is Newstalk's edby.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
The best way to start your weekend.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Saturday Morning with Jack Tam on newstorgs edby.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
A team minutes past nine on news Talks EDB. Jack
speaking of maths, if you've seen the movie Hidden Figures,
True Space Race Story, absolutely amazing. I do find the
maths just staggering, you know, one of the This is
really trivial, I know, but I often look up at
the moon and I think, wow, if you were the
moon is, in my experience, often smaller than we recall.

(09:44):
So if you look at it in the whole context
of the sky. Obviously it depends on where we are
in the in the monthly cycle, et cetera. But the
moon is often a whole lot smaller than I recall,
and I always think, sheesh, I imagine being charged with
sending a space mission to the Moon and having to
direct a rocket in the right direct So having to

(10:07):
calculate the curvature of the Earth, the impact of the atmosphere,
the Earth's rotation, and where the Moon is in the
sky at any one time, and make sure that you
send a rocket in the right direction. I mean, that's
that alone is just incredibly complex, right, And you know,
that's probably the simplest of the many gazillion equations that

(10:30):
NASA's scientist, engineers and supercomputers will be will be facing
as they as they organize these kind of missions. Anyway,
I just find it. I find it utterly staggering. Ninety
two ninety two. If you want to send as a messager,
I'll get more of your feedback in a couple of minutes.
Kevin Milner's with us this morning, though I know he
has been delighting in Artemis as well. Have you continued
following it this week, Kevin?

Speaker 5 (10:50):
I have, I have to some extent though There's been
a lot of a lot of news around and a
lot of issues to grapple with. But I I share
your excitement and I had excuse me, I had my
out in front of me. I wonder how many people
around New Zealand have had their arm out with their

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thumb up on your request.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, I mean I do. I just find the geometry
really amazing because I think that that sense of wonder
and perspective, when you are reminded of how kind of
infinitesimal we are in the grand context of the cosmos,
that really is hammered home. When you see the Earth
as a whole in space rather than as spectacular as

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the viewers from the International Space Station. You need to
get out of that Earth orbit in order to actually
get that full perspective. And no one's had that for
fifty years, no human beings had that since since nineteen
seventy two. So yeah, I just think I think it's
really amazing. And the photographs that've been sending back it
just bananas that they really are amazing. But anyway, Kevin,

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you have music on your mind this morning.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
While the top of the news, well all around Iran
really this week and quite rightly and of course Artemus too.
Down the bottom of the news was the release of
a new single by Paul McCartney. It's a sentimental ballad
called The Days we left behind about his childhood for
it's from an upcoming album called The Boys of Dungeon Lane.

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It's a sweet, simple song from the now eighty three
year old whose voice sounds weak a bit very familiar,
and the video includes old black and white photos from
Paul McCartney's childhood in Dungeon Lane, Liverpool. My son Jake
has a friend, a music journalist in London, who tells

(12:51):
a story about meeting Paul McCartney for an interview. In
my mind, any story about meeting Paul McCartney is worth retelling,
so here it is. It was arranged for the story
to be This journalist to be picked up in a
are from central London and taken to McCartney's recording studio
in East Sussex. When he got there, he was hagging

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into the kitchen and asked to wait. He hadn't had
any breakfast because of nerves, but was now famished. After
a short time, he heard a car pull up, someone
got out and walked to the house whistling. He contends
the journalist that Paul McCartney's whistle was instantly recognizable, and

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sure enough into the kitchen walks the greatest living songwriter, Hi,
says Paul McCartney, you hungry. I make a mean marmite bagel.
The interview went ahead with that incident and the journo
returned to London, but he says he'll never forget those

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first words from the Beatles legend, I make a mean
marp up mar might bagel. There we are listeners, only
a few of us know Paul McCartney makes a mean
marmite bagel. If you have any bagels on hand, you
can make one for yourself now and listen to the
great man at eighty three years old.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
Way too Black reminds of my.

Speaker 7 (14:30):
Past, smoky barks and cheaper guitars.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
One of them bout to last.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
Nothing ever steams, nothing comes to money, no one can do.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
That's lovely. So that's the days we left behind.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Sweet Very is a song, very very
simple and if you're to some extent, I always McCartney
to come up with something totally new, but there's nothing
really totally new about the song that sept It's it's
beautifully written.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, amazing, amazing, he's he's still running music.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
It's amazing that he's poor.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
You got nothing to prove you don't have to do
it for us, you know, like you don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
It's just so much Jenner's flood. And he'll keep writing music.
I'm sure tot he dies.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
I love it. Thank you so much, Kevin. Yeah, and
what a great story. It reminds me of the time
that Hugh Jackman offered to make me a coffee. There
you go, that's the not quite on the same scale.
I don't think it's Paul McCartney offering to make a
manmte bagel, but maybe next level. Thank you very much, Kevin.
Appreciate your time this morning before ten o'clock soup for

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a storm. The winds are already blowing in North and
obviously things are expected to get a whole lot more
serious over the next twenty four hours or so as
cyclone van who makes its way too New Zealand.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Again.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
If you haven't got yourself organized, now is the time
to do it. Plenty of tips up at Newstalk's headb
dot co dot nzed and Ensidherold dot co dot enzied
as well. Thank you for your feedback, Jack, I've never
texted news talks. He'd beat. I'm twenty five and your
monologue just now about the Artemis journey brought tears to
my eyes. Thank you Jack. For those of us who

(16:27):
were growing up during the Apollo missions, that sense of
grand perspective has never left us. And Jack, my husband
Ian put his thumb up just as Jack suggested. It's
good and honestly, if you if you didn't do it,
just try it. I just think it's really a really
simple way of understanding something like a tiny little bit
of what that those astronauts on Artemist must have felt.

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If you hold your hand, hold your arm up at
full extension, and put your thumb up, that is how
small the Earth would have looked when Artemis was four
hundred thousand k's away, further than any crude spaceship has
ever traveled. Yeah, amazing, eh anway I get to more
you feedback a few minutes. Our Sporto is in next

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twenty six past nine on News Talk's EDB.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Getting your weekend started.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
It's Saturday morning with Jack team on News Talks EDB.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Peter's just pointed out and remember Jack, just recall that
the Apollo series of space flights were calculated with the
calculating power a little less than a Commodore sixty four
or a very very early cell phone madly using slide
rules and log tables. It's a very good point, Peter,
thank you ninety two ninety two. If you want to
send us a message this morning, our sport Andrew Savill
is here with us today.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
Go sev Jack.

Speaker 8 (17:43):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Like you?

Speaker 9 (17:45):
I've been enthralled the last couple of weeks with this
Artemis business, although I've tried to avoid it at times,
because the more you read about it, will see about it,
the more you want to know, just like u A.
And then you start googling, and then you start just
going to this massive physics rabbit hole, and then then
then then you see the conspiracy theorists online.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
The fact that there's no stars, and the photos.

Speaker 9 (18:09):
It's been done in a studio, and then it just
you just start to unravel. So it's been it's been
quite a staggering couple of weeks, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
It's amazing for those of us who struggle to remember
our fifth form trigonometry. It's it's a humbling thing to
imagine some of the calculating power that goes into these things.

Speaker 9 (18:26):
And having learned about Neil Armstrong at school. Yeah, and
that that group of astronauts. It's always I've always been
intrigued how they actually did it and how they do
it still today, how they get back safely. It's what
forty thousand k's an hour and the re entry.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yep, yeap, what could go wrong? Yeah, it's so just
after midday today they're expected to splash down, so obviously
something things go.

Speaker 9 (18:50):
Well, very eerie out here. I'm just not far from
the Zibbie studios in from work and it's and it's
I don't think I've ever seen it so still so
still very eerie.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's kind of yeah, shockingly so.
But obviously cyclone yan who is impacting all sorts of
organization and sports this weekend.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
So the.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
V eight's and top or have had things shifted around
a little bit, which is understandable.

Speaker 9 (19:18):
I think likely Jack most of the key as far
as sports concern is being played today. The football Ferns
had their game moved from tomorrow to today. There is
the new Netball Premiership starts. That's indoors of course. I
think there was a game in Southwark from tomorrow, which
at this point in time is still going ahead, but yeah,

(19:38):
the supercars could well be heavily affected tomorrow. They've moved
their feature race, They've linked in one of the races today.
They've bought both key races forward a bit tomorrow. The
feature race starts at nine forty five in the morning, yes,
to try and avoid that weather, but that still remains
up in the year. It's an hour and a half

(19:58):
to our long race, so I suppose anything's possible. And Jack,
when you're a little bit to a football game or
a rugby game, when you're driving these cars that turn
in fifty k' is an hour. Yes, they do drive
them in rain, of course, but when there's a gale
of a wind or howling wind and.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Rain, it's not exactly that safe. As we'll keep our
eyes peeled.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Rory mcelroyd top of the table at the Yes Leaders
table at the Masters at the moment, or leave us
board at the Masters. Although it looks like Ryan Fox
is probably going to be missing the cut, I think, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Long way to go for Rory.

Speaker 9 (20:32):
He'd love to see him win it again. He just
such an approachable, nice bloke. I know, you know, he
spent quite a bit of time here recently up north
of Auckland. He's played well again today Ryan Fox. I
think he might well miss the cut by just one shot,
which is unfortunate. Although if the players still on the
back nine as we speak, if they faltered, then Fox

(20:56):
could still make the cut. It's I mean, every year
seems to roll around quicker for Masters time. It's still
one of the great sporting events. Just the pictures that
come out of the manicured greens and fairways and trees
and ponds. Did you know that they sell? Is it
ten million dollars worth of merchandise a day?

Speaker 5 (21:20):
Wow?

Speaker 9 (21:21):
Over eight days? Wow, They've got that shop open and
there's a continuous line way down through the golf course.
Ten million dollars a day worth of merchandies.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
That's insane. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, what are they selling?
I mean you won't get their camp or whatever else,
the cap or the golf shirt, you know, the key ring, Yeah, yeah,
ten million, the bottom opener, the stubby holder. Yeah, while
we're in the wrong business. Hey, very quickly, super Rugby.
The Landers missed a great opportunity last night.

Speaker 9 (21:52):
Gee was I if you've seen this yellow card near
the end of the game, it's debatable. It is the rule, yes,
but when players have to make split second decisions and
a player wrong foots another player and there's a head clash,
you've got to take get into consideration. So yet Lake
Yellow Card really cost the Highlanders. They were going to
They were on the verge of causing a big, big
upset Blues hurricane tonight.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Can't wait, Yeah, no, that'll be fantastic. All right, you
stay staft this weekend and we will catch you again
very soon. Take you, sir Andrew Saville our Sporto there
after ten o'clock this morning. If you are just planning
a nice quiet weekend at home, you think, actually, no,
going out and raving the storm is not going to
be a smart idea. Well, I'm with you, and we
have some screen time picks for shows to watch your
stream from the comfort of your couch that are going

(22:37):
to tickle your fancy, including the brand new series of
Grand Designs New Zealand. I reckon this might be my
favorite New Zealand TV show. Cannot wait for the new
series of Grand design So we're going to tell you
a little bit more about that after ten. Right now,
it's twenty six minutes two, We've got your film picks
for this weekend. Next that will night talk to you.

Speaker 10 (22:58):
Quee s right through and shoes can come through my
home and I sound like, oh look, you two come first.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
I'm from the story.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Let's leve issues playing Coachella and Coachella's this weekend some
big names, of course. I mean they're always big names
of Coachella. That's kind of what defines Coach Elli, Sabrina Carpenter,
Justin Bieber playing Coach Hella this weekend. Twenty three minutes
to ten. Francesca Rudkin, our film reviewer, is here with.

Speaker 11 (23:35):
Us this morning.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Good morning, Good morning. We have a couple of rather
different films this morning, so both of them are showing
in cinemas. Today could be a good day to go along,
hopefully before the worst of the storm is impacting us.
So let's take a little bit of a listen. First,
up to Undertone.

Speaker 12 (23:52):
Welcome to the Undertone podcast, where we talk about all
things creepy.

Speaker 13 (23:57):
I'm your in.

Speaker 12 (23:57):
House skeptic Evie Babbage, and my believer co host says
he has a real true for us.

Speaker 14 (24:02):
Today we're listening to ten sterious audio recordings from an
anonymous email.

Speaker 11 (24:10):
Are you when plying there's head and messages in it?

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Let me play it back in reverse?

Speaker 15 (24:17):
Dun't dum, Let's just catch the chase.

Speaker 16 (24:20):
This one isn't for you, Jack. Yeah, a horror film
isn't something that you rush along. But both both the
films that I'm talking about today are from two new directors.
These are their featured debuts, and Undertone is really interesting.
A guy called Endoism has directed this. It has it's
an indie horror film. It's from the A twenty four

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studios that likes to give us kind of unique, ambitious films,
and clearly this one was made on a budget. But
he's done a really good job of shooting this film,
which is essentially shot in one location with one on
screen actor. So the character we heard there, Ev is
played by Mena Kitty, and she's a podcaster on a

(25:05):
popular paranormal podcast. She has moved back home to nurse
her dying mother, who is pretty much entirely comatose the
whole film, so an important part, but not a big
speaking part. His partner in the podcast is Jason played
by Adam DeMarco, and he's living somewhere else, so they

(25:26):
sort of catch up in the middle of the night
to record these podcasts, and we only ever see his
voice come through online. They just connect online and they
have parts they play on the podcast as they say,
they were saying, Okay, let's get back into character. And
he's the believer and she's the skeep. Now when they're
recording this podcast, he has been sent a series of
audio files and they listen to them and try and

(25:49):
sort of decipher what's happening. And these files were recorded
by a couple called Mike and Jessa, and Mike's recording
Jessa because she sleep talks, but what he captures is
pretty creepy and haunting, and Jessa likes to sing chill
children's nursery.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Rhymes as a child.

Speaker 16 (26:10):
Jason Jason Yeah, and wait, no way, Jason works out.
If you play them backwards, you'll find there are some
violent hidden messages, and as the film goes on, there
is some concern that they've unleashed a demon. What is
so this might sound quite familiar, sort of quite a
normal kind of horror set up, but you know, they've

(26:30):
just shot this really well. It's all about space and sound,
so the house makes it the film feel quite claustrophobic.
But the director is never just taking a normal angle.
There's always a shadow in the background and you're waiting
for something to appear, or he there's the angles they
choose show you something else in the house that you're going,

(26:50):
what should I be paying attention to? What's going to
happen here? He just creates this incredible tension through the
angles that he chooses to shoot this film. And then
there's the sound. Obviously, being a podcaster, a lot of
this is about the sound and things, but the new
the key uses and the way he uses the sound
and things or it's good, it's pretty impressive.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
I'm going to be.

Speaker 16 (27:14):
Honest, it was a little unsatisfying because it sort of
ended and I was like, hang on what Okay, hang
on what's happened? And you can interpret it your own way.
And I like a director who isn't afraid to kind
of leave you a little bit, you know, on the
edge of your seat scratching your head, going what. But
I really I think this is pretty classy and I'm
really interested to see what he does next. Oh great

(27:34):
with a bigger budget.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Okay, yeah, okay, so that's undertone, like you say it
might be a bit scary for me. I just don't
like feeling anxious unnecessarily. But a couple of points. First
of all, I do think that sound is the key
to a good horror film.

Speaker 16 (27:48):
I think the audio y, yeah, but not the obvious
sound like there's a lot no silence. Sound Go, okay,
there's a jump right coming as a jump setting me
up for pearing through your fingers. Actually, the most fun
I had at that film was there were a couple
of girls sitting along and ask with and they were
just laughing, giggling their way through whole thing to get
rid of all the tension.

Speaker 13 (28:08):
And I love that.

Speaker 16 (28:08):
I always love watching them watch the film.

Speaker 13 (28:10):
I love the film.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
And second of all, just horror is going through such
a moment right now, such moment.

Speaker 16 (28:17):
It has been for a while now, and you know,
they're making money off them. And here's another example. You
can create a pretty clever, relatively cheap film, cross your fingers.
I hope it becomes sort of, you know, becomes a
bit of a cult. And of course we've seeing them
recognize now the oscars. They're sort of you know, they've
grown up and being fully accepted to the you know,
the big filmmaker.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
We've We've got Robert England aka Free Krueger on this
morning as our athlete. I'm going to ask him a
little bit about that, right, So that is undertone that
showing in cinemas, also showing in cinema something completely different,
the President's Cake.

Speaker 16 (28:52):
So I just loved this. This is a film from
a director Hassan Hardi. He is an Iraqi filmmaker. He
took this film to the Sun Dance Lab and there
was a lot of interest in it. He was actually somebody.
People were actually offering to fully fund this film, but
it could not on the condition that it was not
shot in i Raq, and he turned them down. And
he got some really good, big name sort of producers

(29:14):
from Hollywood behind him and he went back to Iraq
and he managed to shoot this film. And I'm so
grateful he did, because this is a film that needs
to be seen within the community and the people and everything.
It's what makes this film. So the year is nineteen ninety,
the place is sort of descending into poverty. There's no

(29:35):
medicine basically because of the really strict youing sanctions which
have been put in place. But despite all this Sadam
Hussein has required all citizens to celebrate his birthday. And
at a local school there is this very threatening former
soldier turned teacher and he makes the kids draw lots
to work out he'll bring the juice and the fruit
for the celebration. And then one child gets the honor

(29:55):
of bringing a cake and it falls to this nine
year old girl, Lemia, and she basically lives in a
hut in the Southern Marshes with her grandmother baby, and
they are poor and struggling, really cannot make ends meet.
Let alone find that these ingredients and make this cake,
and we follow her go off on this journey. It's
presented in a documentary style, natural lighting, incredibly authentic performances

(30:18):
by pretty much inexperienced cast. They're all non actors, and
I just I just got taken into a place in
a time, and I was completely transported by this story
and the performances are absolutely fantastic. I just thought this
was a wonderful arthouse film, and I'm just so delighted
that he made it in his homeland, in the environment

(30:39):
and communities that he is telling us about and sharing
their experiences of living under a dictator.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Ah that's so good. I've send the trailer and it
does look really really special. So that's the President's cake
that's showing in cinemas now. Francesca's first film, the horror,
is called Undertone, and all of the details for both
of those movies will be up at newstalk setb dot
co dot NZ in a couple of minutes. Soup for
a Storm a recipe that could not be more timely.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Right now it's ten, Well, you're heading out to start
your Saturday turn off Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Jay
on news Talk zedby.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Thank you very much for sending me your messages this morning.
Got a great email here from Peter.

Speaker 17 (31:21):
This is Jack.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Absolutely loved your opening comments this morning about Artemis two.
I've been ducking in and out on the NASA website
plotting Artemis's journey through space, and it's been a remarkable
thing to watch. Like you, it's crazy to imagine the
view that the astronauts have had from up there. It's yeah,
I just find it really staggering. It must just been

(31:43):
such a profound experience. Anyway, just after midday today is
when the scheduled to splash down in the Pacific. I
think they scooped them up. It's off the coast of California,
I think, And so they scoop them up and then
try and get them back to NASA HQ in Texas
just as soon as possible. Twelve minutes to ten on
Newstalk's He'd be coot, NICKI wix is here this morning?
Killed her?

Speaker 18 (32:02):
Yes, good morning Jack.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Is it still kind of eerily quiet at your play?

Speaker 18 (32:07):
Oh, my goodness, so eerily quiet. It really is the
calm before the.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Storm, breath of wind that is meant.

Speaker 18 (32:14):
Yeah, and the sea is beautiful, beautiful clean way, that
sort of thing, and yet that's about.

Speaker 17 (32:19):
To turn or so we so we succeed.

Speaker 15 (32:22):
I would have to say, for the first.

Speaker 18 (32:23):
Time, I am well prepped. You know, I have you know,
secured furniture. I have made sure that every power bank
I've got is all battery pack is all you know, charged.

Speaker 15 (32:33):
Up and all that.

Speaker 18 (32:33):
And so, yeah, it occurs to me that we are
we are adapting to this climate change, we're also at
the behest of it. So you know, my focus is
on making sure I've got enough soup.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Now, honestly, this is such a good idea. I'm really glad. Yeah,
I'm you know, I mean there are you know, as
much as we love to, you know, have complex croc
and Bosh recipes and that kind of thing, it just
feels like this might be the weekend actually for something
that might tide you over for twenty four hours. If
you happen to boost will not help you this, yes, well,
I mean it will always help you. But whether.

Speaker 18 (33:07):
For those listeners who don't know we're talking about that
beautiful high tower of profisseroles.

Speaker 17 (33:12):
That's what Jack do was.

Speaker 18 (33:14):
You're right, that could certainly comfort me. But look, I've
got a hearty.

Speaker 17 (33:17):
Soup for us all.

Speaker 18 (33:18):
And you know, even if you are not in the
line of this comment, in line for the cyclone, it's
going to help you out. What I love about having
a soup ready is that you can pop it in
furmaces as well. I do have butane and gas burners
and things like that that I can resort to. But
if you don't, like my dad, for example, we'll be
making sure that he's got some soup. So because it's

(33:39):
really nice. I think when things are dark and windy
and rainy and a little bit thought, it's nice to
have something warm. If the power goes out. There's nothing
like the comfort of that. So look souper easy. Big
pot on the stove. This is going to make you
about ten serves. It will be fine cold, much better hot.

Speaker 15 (33:55):
This soup though, four tablespoons of.

Speaker 18 (33:57):
Olive oil and then throwing our wonderful pillars of flavor.
A medium onion that you've diced, two carrots that you've
diced in, two stalks of celery you could use some
fea bold tube, have got some of that, and then
just sorte that for you know, sort of five to
ten minutes until those have softened, and then all we're
doing so it's a really cheap soup.

Speaker 15 (34:15):
This as well.

Speaker 18 (34:17):
We are adding in two liters of water and a
can of crushed tomatoes a four hundred and twenty grand.
They generally come and crush tomatoes, but tomatoes are really
cheap at the moment, gag. So I've used four to
six fresh tomatoes in this soup as well.

Speaker 15 (34:32):
And a little trip that I.

Speaker 18 (34:33):
Learned in Barcelona when we were filming little kitchens up
there was grate the tomatoes. Use a box grater and
just hold the tomato against the you know, the corner side,
and start grating and you end up with this beautiful
pole wow in your hand, and the palm of your hand,
you just end up with the whole skin of the tomato.

Speaker 13 (34:51):
It's like magic, to.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
Be totally clear. Do you'd have it on the on
the chunky side, of the chunky side, on the biggest
the one with the biggest holes.

Speaker 13 (35:00):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 18 (35:01):
Sometimes it's hard to get a bit of traction, but
once you do, you're way laughing. Yea, and yes, and
then and then I'll just cut up that skin, just
dice it up and put it in the cup as well.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
I'll tell you what any sentence that begins with a
little trick I picked up in Barcelona, dot dot dot.
You're just you're just slipping that in there for us
this morning, Mackie. We saw it.

Speaker 18 (35:23):
It was not a trick to any Spanish person. They
all do it.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
No, they know how to live. They've got their priority
sword and I'll do anything the Spanish suggest. Yeah, I
love it.

Speaker 18 (35:32):
Chucking and Bai leaf Bailey's are great to have in
the house because they'll last for years. The borer and
the pantry moss don't seem to like them, but they're
so great. Bread in flavor bring all this to the
boil and the simma for about fifteen minutes, and then
we're going to add five big handfuls of pasta shells
or macaroni. So this is kind of like a Ministroni cel.
But this is all about comfort. It's all about sustenance.

(35:54):
So put that pastor in cook boiler soup for about
twelve minutes, and then you're going to add two cans
of mixed beans. I tend not to go for kidney
beans on their own.

Speaker 15 (36:05):
I find them a.

Speaker 18 (36:05):
Bit clunky, So you know, treat yourself to something nicer,
like a butter bean, a little pinto perhaps a mixture
of those. And I'm not great on chickpeas either.

Speaker 15 (36:15):
So what whatever is your fancy?

Speaker 18 (36:17):
Throw that and you want to heat that until that's
heated through, and then I would be storing this in
a couple of big sermaces if I was you or else,
Just have it on hand ready to heat up if
your power goes out and you've got a gas burner.
Season it really well with salt and pepper. Fin it
down with a bit more water. If it's a bit
more like a stew than a soup, you can garnish
it with anything. You could add schalizza or bacon. If

(36:39):
you wanted to enrich it, you could serve it with
cheese on top. You could also add other sorts of
frozen vegetables and peas. But the simplicity absolutely is out
of proportion with the amount of heartiness that you get
into the soup, which doesn't take that.

Speaker 13 (36:55):
Long to coxe.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
It's such an option today people. No, I think it's
a fantastic idea. You could chuck that in a thermosa
like you could just you could be prepped up. So
if you're losing power at your place, No, I think
it sounds other.

Speaker 18 (37:07):
Things that I would say to people's have some sandwich
fixings on hand just in case things tuned to custard.

Speaker 15 (37:12):
Those are great.

Speaker 18 (37:12):
Oh yeah, if you don't lose power, then you'll love
a you'll love a toasted sandwich. But if you do,
it's really great to have some cheese, some solami, some hands.

Speaker 13 (37:21):
Yeah, all that sort of thing.

Speaker 18 (37:22):
Power, if we lucky, doesn't tend to go out for
too long, So keep those fridges and freezes, only open
them as needed, all that sort of thing. But yeah,
a good soup, we'll see you through. A good sandwich.
You'll see you through in a toasted sandwich will just
be a bonus on jop.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Very good. All right, love that so much, Nikki. Thank you.
We'll make sure the recipes at newstalks hedb dot co
dot z. You stay safe this weekend and we will
catch you again very soon.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Where the weekend finds its rhythm. Saturday morning with Jack
team on News talks'b.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
And it's just coming up to ten o'clock on News Talks.
He'd be after ten. We're going to catch up with
that texpert about a story that many nerds reckon. Is
the biggest story in artificial intelligence this year. This new
AI model that has been produced by Anthropic has been
found to discover vulnerabilities and security problems in some of

(38:16):
the most important software powering our world today. So they
haven't released it publicly, but they say this AI model
is so good it can go through some of the
most important software we all use every day without thinking
about it and find massive security problems. So this could
have huge implications for banking, for anything that requires a password,

(38:38):
for the Internet as a whole, for the world. So
we're going to talk to our texpert about that and
don't forget right after the news our feature interview this
Saturday morning. Robert England. He trained as the Shakespearian actor
and found international fame. It's Freddy Krueger. He's making his
way to New Zealand. He'll be with us right after
the news. News is next though it's almost ten o'clock
as Saturday morning. I've jack tame this his news doorg.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
ZDB sweet ass listening for your Saturday Saturday morning.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Whe It's Jack Day on New Stork's.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
V Yard and New Zealand. You're a jactaime on Newstalks

(39:34):
V through the midday today. Horror is dominating cinema right now.
The horror genre was the biggest winner at this year's Oscars,
with the film Sinners taking a record sixteen nominations, as
well as Frankenstein and Weapons getting their respective nods, and
a man who will forever be synonymous with the genre
as the character of Free Krueger is Robert England. Although

(39:57):
Robert has long since hung up his fedora striped sweater
and razor fingered gloves, he's still involved in hugely influential
thriller and horror projects. He's appeared in over eighty feature
films and was most recently involved in Netflix Juggernaut Stranger Things.
Robert is coming to New Zealand very soon to meet
his fans at the Armageddon Expo, and he's with us

(40:17):
this morning. Gilda, Good morning.

Speaker 8 (40:20):
Well, good morning Jack.

Speaker 14 (40:22):
It is great to.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Be speaking with you ahead of your New Zealand appearance.
But I've got to start with Halloween twenty twenty five.
And it felt like, for whatever reason, the universe had
decent timing because Freddy Krueger got his star on the
Hollywood Walk of Fame on the thirty first of October.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
How was that?

Speaker 8 (40:43):
Well, you know, I sort of managed that a little bit.
When I was notified that I was going to be honored,
I was told the other honorees for the year, and
one of them was John Carpenter, the great director John Carpenter,
and I figured, well, naturally John Carpenter will take the

(41:03):
Halloween date, you know, because of the Halloween franchise. Well
he didn't. He opted to get his star in the spring.
So I said, please, sir, you know more Porridge, I'd
be happy, happy to be honored on Halloween because it
would dovetail with thematically with me being a horror actor.

(41:26):
And also we have a tradition on Hollywood Boulevard and
the adjacent West Hollywood there's a huge Halloween parade and
there's huge costume cosplay, as we call it here in
the States. People dress up and they sort of take
over the streets in that part of town. So I

(41:48):
knew that that festival always goes on for Halloween. I
figured it would be great to kind of bleed no pun,
intended into that with my ceremony.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Yeah, I think at the time you mentioned being cemented
into American popular culture, I think we can kind of
broaden it out from there. I think you can be
cemented into global popular culture. But when you look back,
was there a single moment that you realized Freddy had
escaped the movies and become something bigger.

Speaker 8 (42:18):
Well, there was a couple, you know. I saw a
Hell's Angel in November of eighty four. I was doing
a big holiday parade, you know, for my network then
NBC in Hollywood. They were the network that I had
a television show on, and I was promoting, still promoting

(42:41):
this hit television series. I had a science fiction show
back then called V for Visitors, and I was at
the end of the parade, I took off my little
bow tie and my suspenders that my character wore. I
was sort of this malapropping benign alien and I was

(43:02):
getting a lot of fan mail, and I was kind
of going international with a success from this show. And
this Hell's Angel pulled up on a Harley Davidson extended
fork motorcycle and he got off and he took off
his shirt and he pulled his pants down to his
knees and he had a massive anime styled a Japanese

(43:28):
mafia yakuza anime tattoo of Freddy and Jason wrestling, and
it went all around his torso and down to his
knees and his buttocks and his back and his arms
down to the elbows, and it kind of moved with
his muscles as he moved, and I thought, my gun,

(43:50):
I said, I'm really part of some subculture here that
I'm not that familiar with, you know, because it was
really crossing over between biker culture and heavy metal and
punk rock and tattoo and goth and even as far
back as then, a little bit of anime interest, you know,

(44:10):
because it was in that style, you know, on this
American you know, biker and I sort of knew then.
And and then I was in Europe for a nightmare,
I mean, for V again in Italy, accepting an award
from my television series. And I was in Milan, and

(44:32):
I literally we pulled up in the limousine, my girlfriend
and I and I opened a door to let her out,
and I was yanked off my feet and passed over
the crowd like I was in some punk rock mosh pit,
you know, in front of La Scala, you know, the
famed ancient opera house of Milan, Italy, and I and

(44:56):
all the chance the fans were chanting Freddie, Freddie, Freddie.
And I was there for an entirely different project. And
this was very early on in in the franchise history.
I don't even think we'd made Part two yet, so
I'm going to say maybe early eighty five that I
was there, And that also made me realize that it

(45:19):
was international and that it had this life of its own,
you know, you know, in a foreign country. I literally,
I'm not kidding, I was jet lagged, and you know,
they shut her all the buildings, they shut her all
the shops. So I went to a local park at dawn.
I couldn't sleep anymore. And this is before I had

(45:42):
been yanked out of the car. But I was in
this park with a zoo at down, and I will,
I'll wander over and look at the zoo animals. I'm
not a big fan of zoos, but I was. I
couldn't sleep. And there were nobody in the park, beautiful
urban park in Milan, and there was no one there
except for the grandmothers. And the grandmothers were all there

(46:05):
with their grand children in the perambulators, in the baby
carriages being walked, you know, giving giving the young mothers,
you know, a respite from motherhood. And and the grandmother's
getting up early because old people get up early and
pushing the babies around the park. And the grandmothers recognized me,
and they knew my name, and and I literally a

(46:28):
couple of them pinched my cheeks and said, mom me,
you know, and they but it was they were saying, Fred,
you know, it's free. Because the Italians have a great
tradition of horror movies. They don't they're not judge them,
they're not judgmental about them. They just think they're another
genre like the Western or the science fiction movie or

(46:50):
the romantic comedy. And that was my other inkling. You
know that that I the horror movies and science fiction
projects travel they sort of speak that international language of film.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
You listening to the time on Newstalks, he'd be I
am speaking too, Freddy Krueger himself. Robert England is here
for the Amagidon Expo. You know, it feels like horror
films are going through a bit of a moment right now.
You know, you look at the success of the likes
of Sinners.

Speaker 8 (47:23):
And you know, well, you know, I'm so proud of
Sinners for kind of being one of the first horror
films since Silence of the Lambs and then and half
before that, perhaps Rosemary's Baby to really kind of be
taken seriously at it at its at its time by

(47:45):
the Academy. And I've been a member of the Academy
since nineteen seventy five. But it's just great that that happens.
I know that there's a sort of feeling that the
Academy does not respect comedy and horror as much as genres.
But I you know, Sinners was such an amazing amalgam

(48:10):
a mashup, you know, like almost like a graphic novel
that came alive for me. And so many things were
going on in that movie, whether they were about either
politically about race or about the organic nature of the
growth of music and the evolution of music in America

(48:30):
and the influences of the Irish and the black influence
to music, and then and then it's just totally mutated
into a vampire film, and I was like, Okay, sign
me up. This wonderful, wonderful acting in that movie. So
many terrific performances in that movie.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yeah, yeah, so Sinners.

Speaker 8 (48:53):
Really, I think Sinners has really begun another kind of renaissance.
I was I sort of thought for a minute there
that maybe all the zombie projects had sort of exhausted
the audience, you know, for a while. But you know,
Sinners was so fresh and so wonderful. And we have

(49:15):
another one out. I don't know if it's out in
New Zealand yet, but you must see it. It's called Weapons,
and it's just so original and it completely fakes you out,
and it just has a gangbuster performance from Ed Harris's wife,
Amy Madigan. She won the Oscar this year, but you know,

(49:36):
Amy's been around forever. Most audiences know her from Field
of Dreams with Kevin Costner, but she's just rock and
roll spectacular in weapons. So you should all check it
out if you're fans of the genre.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
It's funny, like you said, there's a bit of a renaissance,
and maybe there has been a kind of underlying sense
that some people turn their noses at horror films a
little bit. But you know, they might have assumed that
horror actors, for example, just show up and snap. But
you trying it, Rada, You did ShakespeRe, So how much
of that classical background is actually in Freddy Krueger.

Speaker 8 (50:14):
Well, you know what that does for you when you're
trained as an actor like that. What it does is
it gives you technique if you need it. It gives
you help if you require it. And actors don't always
need it, because sometimes you read a script and you
can see yourself in that role in your mind's eye,

(50:34):
and that makes preparation a lot easier and memorization easier,
and the actual rehearsal and performance easier. But sometimes there's scenes,
or there's roles we get. I sometimes get parts I
can't believe they want me, you know, for these roles.
I don't feel like I'm right for it. And this

(50:56):
goes way back, you know, this goes back to when
I was like eighteen or nineteen, and so then you
have this technique to rely on. It's an opening. It's
like a door that opens for preparation. So that's part
of it. What happened for me playing Freddy was I
had discarded a lot of my theatrical tricks, a lot

(51:21):
of stuff that I could do in the theater with
my voice and with my face and physically some of
my physical acting. I had to put that on simmer
on camera because on camera, you know, there's a formula
there as well, right, and sometimes you want to air

(51:42):
in the direction of simplicity. But there's also that problem
of there's a little voice going off in your head
going don't act, don't act, don't get caught acting whatever
you do. And that's really frustrating too, because when you're
really allowed to perform and really allowed to act, it's
very liberating. And when I was covered with all of

(52:03):
that foam latex and all of that adhesive, the glue
they used to attach it to me, and I had
that all on, I didn't worry about my thinning hair,
and I didn't worry about my good side or my
bad side. And I was able to change my voice,
and I was able to move differently than Robert England

(52:23):
would normally move on film, because Freddie occupies this sort
of surreal imagination landscape of the dream of the nightmare,
you know, in the subconscious. He's not really walking around
on the streets. And so I was able to I
don't want to, I don't like to use the word dance,

(52:45):
but I was able to physicalize him more, kind of
paint him into the frame of the imagination of whoever
was having a nightmare about him. And that was really liberating.
And when I got done with the nightmare movies, I
found that when I did, and I was still doing
a lot of horror movies, because by now I was
established as a horror a genre star. But what I

(53:08):
was doing the ones out of makeup, playing an old scientist,
you know, or a psychiatrist, or an old priest, or
a you know, a mad doctor or something. When I
got those roles, the sort of vincent price roles I was,
I had been liberated from playing Freddie, and I found

(53:29):
other parts of me and more courage, you know, with
accents and with my behavior on camera. So you know,
the playing Freddie for all those years was actually a
very liberating thing for me, and it kind of gave
me a career on the other side that I know

(53:49):
I wouldn't normally have had because I had been established
as a genre star.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
Yeah, well, look at it is such a pleaser to speak.
We are so excited to have you in New Zealand, Robert,
travel safely and we look forward to seeing you in person.

Speaker 8 (54:02):
Well, thank you so much. You know, New Zealand is
the home of a couple of my favorite actors, Tomorrow
Morrison and Cliff Curtis, and of course you know all
my friends and I worshiped Flight of the Concords and
all the wonderfully funny young actors on that And I've
been to your paradise before and I'm looking forward to

(54:25):
coming back to Auckland and maybe sneaking over on the
ferry to Davenport for a nice meal. Anyway, thanks for
talking with me, and I hope to see everybody at Armageddon.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
We really look forward to it. Thanks so much, Robert.
You take care and we'll see you very soon.

Speaker 8 (54:40):
Thank you, Bye bye.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
So good. There's Robert England aka Freddy Krueger. He will
be at Armageddon this year. All the details will be
up on the news talks. He'd be website now before
eleven o'clock. We are in the garden talking dahlias. Now
is the time to pick what you might be planting
very very soon. So we've got our man in the
garden's top advice, his top varietals. He's got some beautiful

(55:04):
photos that he sent through as well that I'll make
sure go up on the website. And as well as
that our texpert with his thoughts on this extraordinary new
AI model whose creators are warning has discovered all sorts
of vulnerabilities in some of the most important software in
the world. So what will it mean for the Internet
if this is ever released for the general public. We'll

(55:25):
get his thoughts on that. Next up, though, your screen
time picks for this weekend, A couple of fantastic shows
to watch from the comfort of your place. It's twenty
three past ten.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Your weekend stance right here Saturday morning with Jack tam
on Newstalk ZEDB.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
Twenty six past ten on Newstorks ZEDB. Jack, how are
your plans to keep the pomegranate on the tree, says Robert.
It's getting windy here and parts the North and things
are going to be a whole lot worse than other
parts of the North Island, a whole lot sooner.

Speaker 8 (55:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
I mean, honestly, Robert, I don't want to trivialize the storm,
but I would be lying if I said I had
not expressed serious concern about the future of my pomegranate.
The thing is, I reckon I maybe two or three
weeks away from harvesting my pomegranate. They reckon that when
your pomegranate is ready to be harvested, it loses its

(56:12):
kind of spherical quality and becomes a little little boxier.
So it's looking pretty read at the moment, and I
think it's maybe just starting to get a little boxier.
But I reckon it needs just a couple more weeks
on the tree before I pick it. And obviously the
storm is a concern. So I've tied up my pomegranate
tree to the fence so that it doesn't try and
flop around too much. Imagine if you had like a

(56:34):
Christmas tree, and the point where the star goes on
your Christmas tree. Right at the very top. That's where
my one pomegranate on my pomegranate tree is growing like
it could not be closer to the top of the tree,
which means that it sort of feels like it could
be blown around a whole lot more than other parts
of the plant. So yep, I've tied it up. I'll
be reporting back. But I'm pleased that I'm not the

(56:56):
only one who's concerned about the state of my pomegranate
coming into the storm. Obviously there are bigger concerns, So
I hope that people are prepared at their place, tying
things down. We're necessary clearing furniture, all that kind of stuff,
and making sure we've got supplies to get you through anyway.
Nineteen ninety two, if you want to send this message
like Robert did this morning, time to get your screen
time picks for this weekend, and Carl Pushman is here

(57:18):
with his top takes. I cannot wait, Carl for the
new season of Grand Designs.

Speaker 11 (57:23):
I know right for me, this is a show that
somewhere along the line went from being a guilty pleasure
to being your bog standard normal pleasure. Yeah, it's conceived
a simple Each episode follows a single home build a
renovation project from initial planning through the completion. The fun
part was that the build actually finishing is not always guaranteed.
As the title says, these are grand designs that these

(57:45):
people are taking on.

Speaker 19 (57:46):
And what I.

Speaker 11 (57:48):
Always liked about it is that you'd have normal people
like your Eyjack deciding that they could project manage these
ludicrously ambitious and complex builds themselves with no prior experience
in the trades whatsoever. It'd be sort of like deciding
to take an F one car out for a spin
and hoping that things don't go terribly wrong. Predictably, things

(58:09):
often go terribly wrong very quickly, and you know, that
was a big part of the appeal when they initially
started watching this show, was just seeing what was going
to go wrong. The flip side of that is that
these incredible projects still, somehow miraculously most of the time,
come to life, and it's often just through stubborn refusal
to give up by the couple building these things. And

(58:29):
that's what is really the heart of the show was
seeing these crazy builds coming to life and all the
heartache and stress and pressure that comes that comes with
getting these things done. The New Zealand version is now
on season ten and that framework still holds strong. Our
host Tom Webster does a passible job of filling the

(58:50):
original UK series host Killing McCloud's impressive shoes. He doesn't
have that same air of what I'd like to call
sort of supportive doubt or authoritative cynicism that McLoud often
displays when talking to the people, and I do miss that,
But I think Tom Webs is doing his own thing
and it really works here, especially you know, in the
New Zealand environment.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Yeah, yeah, this, oh sorry.

Speaker 11 (59:14):
The first episode lives up to the title with a
couple taking on a Category one protected building, Earns Clue
Castle down in Clyde, just beside Queenstown. So as you
can imagine, there is all manner of headaches going on
with this build. And yeah, the amount they have to
go through in this years long renovation is incredible. To

(59:34):
the show's massive credit credit budget talks are frank because
you know, Kiwis, we don't like to talk about money
particularly and here the show budgets are openly discussed, which
is really important, and this episode is a complete shocker
when it comes to budget blowout so yes, a grand
a grand viewing experience.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
Oh yeah, I can't wait. I just love it. So
every time I watch it and the person's like, yeah,
and we think the build's going to be done in
four months and yeah, and we know it's across winter,
but it should be all good, and you know, and
we're thinking we're going to come in at you know,
like three hundred and fifty dollars. And I'm always like, ah,
have you never seen.

Speaker 11 (01:00:11):
Screen television struggles to put up a painting? So they
think they can do this?

Speaker 13 (01:00:19):
But I love her.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
I love it. I just and I still somehow watch
the show and think, oh, yeah, I'd love to ever
go at that. Yeah, what can go wrong? Grand Designs
New Zealand as a new series that begins seven thirty
tomorrow night on TV and Z one. Tell us about
the new series of My House My Castle.

Speaker 11 (01:00:36):
Yeah, from an actual castle to pretend castle, I guess.
For its twelve season, My Housemark My Castle has had
a bit of a reno, a bit of a spruce up.
Comedian and broadcaster Hailey Sprawl has moved in his as
host and this takes a very different tact. Where Grand
Designs is slow and measured across years. My house, my
castle is just a tight half hour with the available

(01:01:00):
space just maximized. It is absolutely crammed with segments around housing, housing,
market housing, trem housing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
What have you.

Speaker 11 (01:01:08):
Episode one looks at the death of the traditional Kiwi
quarter acre dream. It charts its history and the reasons
for its demise. Talks to a whole bunch of different
people that are living in big sections, small sections, in
between sections, all that kind of stuff that whizzes around
from experts like architects, interior designers, real estate agents. They

(01:01:31):
all chime in on it. And you know, there's flashy
graphics everywhere. Haley sprawl. You can get some comedy skits
in and she sort of has an excitable commentary the
whole way through which drives the pace. It does what
it does well. It was all a bit breathless and
full on for me, but it is solid entertainment and
the amount of them for they cram in is really commendable.

(01:01:54):
But yeah, I like my excitement a little a little
more less, if you will, And it was just very
full on, but to its credit, you do get the
history of the quarter acre section, the reasons for why
we can no longer have them a little bit, just
wanted that another experts talk about the negatives around that.

(01:02:14):
That's all very gung ho positive, but you know that's
the kind of show it as. It's, yeah, a positive
look at what's going on in the housing market and
little small renovation of a backyard section in a townhouse
gets done, which you get to see how they maximize
the space there. So, like I say, it's a very

(01:02:34):
tight half hour and it does do what it does well,
but put up against Grand Designs, it's not really a
fair comparison.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
There, Okay, cool, Well, well there are two different options
there and great, thanks sir Carl. So those shows once again.
My House, My Castle is on three and three now.
Grand Design starts tomorrow night on TV and Z one
and TV and Z Plus. And you can hear more
from Carl on his sub stack screen crack.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Getting your weekends started.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News Talks AB.

Speaker 7 (01:03:13):
Yes, but you want to do.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Just In Bieber is back. Yeah. Beebes is set to
headline Coachella this weekend. He's gonna take the main stage
tonight for his first major performance since twenty twenty two.
When you might remember he had to abandon his tour
over health concerns. Coachella is one of the world's biggest
music festivals. It is enormous. It's held in California's Coachella Valley.

(01:03:48):
Tickets sold out in just three days. One hundred and
twenty five thousand people will be hosted every day across
two huge weekends. There are seven stages with a massive
variety of artists including Sabrina Carpenter, Dave Byrne, The Strokes,
and Iggy Pop. We're going to play some of the
headliners throughout the show this morning and then just before midday.
Our music reviewer will be in before the end of

(01:04:11):
the show with his thoughts on the lineup this year
and all of the details for the co CHALLERFESTI and
a couple of minutes, our texpert is in with what
many are describing as one of the biggest developments in
AI to date. And this could have serious implications for
anyone who uses passwords, anyone who does internet banking, anyone
who uses the Internet anywhere. So who give us the

(01:04:33):
details in a few minutes, it's twenty three to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic Asking Breakfast.

Speaker 20 (01:04:40):
Tom Inside into how epic purity plays out. John Bolton,
He's seen it all for the United States. Ambassador to
the United Nations of course, security advisor to every Republican
administration since Reagan, including Donald Trump. John Bolton is with us.

Speaker 14 (01:04:53):
I don't think there's really much desperation on the Iranian side.
They're a rather primitive view of the world. Is they
win if they survived. But I don't think they feel
the pressure. I think Trump's the one who feels the pressure.
I think he looks at oil price is going up,
in equity mar it's going down, and he wants out.
And I think the Iranian censors that, and I think
it leaves Trump and the US there for in a

(01:05:13):
more vulnerable position.

Speaker 20 (01:05:15):
Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
Rain Drivers fort SV News Talk ZB twenty to eleven.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
On News Talk ZEDB. The next level of AI is
about to be released and there are big, big concerns.
Our textbit pollstin House is here with the details. Good I, Paul, Yeah,
good morning.

Speaker 12 (01:05:32):
Jacket's hard. Do sometimes know what this AI stuff when
we hear these developments, how much of it is sort
of the marketing height yea, or the or you know,
trying to hype the investors. Do you give us more
money and we need more money for infrastructure and how
much of it is actually real? But I will say
that this model is coming from Anthropic, the other makers
of Clawed and there I think it was their CEO

(01:05:55):
said that the fallout for economies, public safety, and national
security could be severe. Yeah, so that kind of goes
beyond marketing high, I think at that point. So this
is probably one we need to pay attention to.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
I think that the way they've been discussing it, and
I love the stuff as you do, but I think
the way they've been discussing it suggests that they're seriously
concerned about liability. Like they aren't talking it up in
a big way because they want to make money out
of it necessarily, although of course they do. It's more
that they're concerned this is so powerful that if they
release it for everyone overnight, the things that people could

(01:06:31):
potentially do with it would leave them liable for lawsuits
that would bankrupt the company, you know, I mean, yeah, I.

Speaker 12 (01:06:37):
Mean when you start talking about some of the things
here that it could be finding. Right, So this latest
model mythis is able to find. They're basically saying that
it is probably in the top one percent of software
engineers around. They're saying that it is in the top
one percent of cybersecurity professionals around. And so it is
able to find. It has found thousands, thousands of vulnerabilities

(01:07:00):
and software that we assumingly use day in and day out.
Some of the vulnerabilities that found been there for twenty
seven years. No one knew they were there, even the
companies that have been testing it and know all about
the software. So this is like very powerful stuff, and
I think I think the thing that is probably most
alarming is it's not like it could just you know,

(01:07:20):
create a really cool app, you know that's for good.
They're really concerned about the bad. And the thing that
kind of got me, you know, set my alarm bells
off was the US Treasury Secretary. He actually in the
wake of this, a bunch of the US banks happened
to be in Washington for some lobbying type of things,
but he met with all of these critical banks and

(01:07:42):
you can imagine, or I guess you don't want to imagine,
but you could be a time where imagine if they
could get into the kind of the critical big US
banks and they could start messing with transactions or messing with,
you know, the flow of money like that would just
upend them. So that would it would be and so
that wouldn't just be a lawsuit in some liability, that

(01:08:05):
would be something quite different.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
And this is the concern, right, So they've basically tested
this model. They've asked this model to find cybersecurity vulnerabilities
in some of the most important software in the world.
And so this is stuff like internet browsers, the little
bits of software that none of us even know is
being used. So the open source stuff that gets used

(01:08:30):
in all manner of software that you use every day
without even kind of being aware that you're using software
at a time. And you know, there are examples that
I've read about where, for example, a piece of software
has been checked five million times by human cybersecurity experts,
coding experts, and artificial intelligence models and has never been

(01:08:52):
found to have a problem. And now they've put this
mythofs model on it and it's immediately found massive vulnerabilities
that could be catastrophic. And it's this kind of example
replicated however, many times over with however, many companies, however,
many forms of software that is worrying.

Speaker 12 (01:09:07):
Yes, And one of the ones that also got my
kind of here is on the back of my neck.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Up was Cisco. So the CEO of Cisco.

Speaker 12 (01:09:13):
And Cisco makes networking kind of hardware, right, but obviously
behind the hardware is also some software. Now, when you've
got the CEO of Cisco coming and saying that AI
has reached a level where critical infrastructure needs to be protected,
as Cisco, who provides the critical infrastructure for many digital
businesses and huge networks, you have to think we might

(01:09:38):
be on we might be at a time where we
might need to pump the brakes.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Yeah, yeah, so interesting a. So, one of the steps
this company has taken is they've got an alliance of
cybersecurity companies and like another three or four dozen organizations,
and they've given them like one hundred million dollars worth
of tokens to use this model so they can go
and test it before it's released in the public, which
seems like probably a very good idea, and they they

(01:10:03):
need more who knows, but they're being fascinating to see
what happens with this. Thank you, Paul, that is Paul
Stenhouse our texpert this morning. Mythos is the name of
that new model from Anthropic. It has not been released
to the general public and it might be some time
before it is quarter to eleven on Newstalk's EDB.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
The Best way to start your weekend Saturday Morning with
Jack Team on newsborg Z EDB.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
Thirteen to eleven on Newstalk's EDB, time to get our
Master Somalier's wine picked for this weekend, and Cameron Douglas
has chosen a Tuva Iris penan war from twenty twenty four.
He's with us this morning. Get a Cameron, good morning.

Speaker 21 (01:10:40):
What great pronunciation that was?

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
Wow done. Look we definitely didn't just ask you the
thirty seconds ago. Just just a triple check the pronunciation
of a Chuba iris. But yeah, very good. So tell
us about the wine.

Speaker 21 (01:10:54):
Well, Tuva is a Croatian term. It means guardians, so
it's always a great wine to have by your side
within clement weather. And Iris, which is also on that label,
is the national flower of Croatia.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Right, okay, So a two var iris is the name
of the wine. Is it like as a pen and wire?
Is it quite a fruity little number.

Speaker 21 (01:11:21):
Yeah. Look, I would call this a complete wine. It's
in that ready to drink expression with a decent measure
of what I call deliciousness. You know, it's right, it's fruity.
It's got this core of varietal flavors that lots of
people and listeners like to expect from peanut, which is
that cherry, raspberry, red flower, boisonberry mix. But there's a

(01:11:45):
little bit of wood spice in here as well. You know,
great pen and wire comes with a little bit of wood.
And there's the term I like to use when I'm
writing about one called earth smoke, and what that means
is the echo of something from the earth that underpins
the wine, and in this case clay, which is what
it's grown on to a degree. It's a lovely dry wine,

(01:12:06):
and it's what I also call easily dissolved hannons, along
with a great refreshing acid line. So it does have youth,
but it's immediate drinkability from today.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Oh very good. So you could hold on to it
for a couple of years, you reckon.

Speaker 21 (01:12:22):
Oh, absolutely, twenty four is a great vintage, and this
wine has all the attributes to make it last and
you sell it for a good couple of years.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
Yeah, And if you did want to have it sometime soon,
what would you match it with? Do you think?

Speaker 21 (01:12:36):
Well, if you like me and you're hunkering down for
the next couple of days, I think that food that
is not only good for you, fills you up and
makes you feel good at the same time. I'm suggesting
a rosotto that is vegan in nature and also one
hundred percent gluten free. And the tipping point with any
kind of risotto is whether or not you're going to

(01:12:58):
use a vegan cheese or a standard cheese and an
international style cheese. And Epic do a great brand of
van cheddar which you can use. But for somebody like
me and even perhaps you, you know, parmesan or pecorino
grated into that mix for service is always great. And
if you want to go a bit fancy, then drop

(01:13:19):
a knob of blue cheese in there as well.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
Oh so good, Yeah, because I think the parmesan gives
you that amami as well, doesn't it, And obviously yeah,
so rich.

Speaker 21 (01:13:33):
I'd also actually throw in a whole leak. Lots of
people go half an onion or half a red onion
or a little bit of leak or but throw a
whole leak in there, cook that up first and reduce
that down and then just add any veggies that you
like and it's a wonderful match.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
Yeah, wonderful, Thank you Cameron. So Cameron's picked for us
this weekend as a tuvar Iris Penina twenty twenty four
from Marlborough. The details will be on the news talks.
He'd be website and we're in the garden next gardening
with still sharp autumn deals on tools built right passes
our man in the garden.

Speaker 13 (01:14:08):
Good morning, sir, A very good cura to you. Is
everything all right?

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
Yeah, yeah, very well.

Speaker 8 (01:14:14):
Thanks.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
So I was at my sister's last weekend for Easter weekend,
and she is like an absolute star in the garden.
In fact, she actually she grows flowers and she sells
them from a little honesty box in front of in
front of her house. And of course the season starting
to turn et cetera, et cetera. But as I was
walking around to her garden, she was giving me a
bit of a tour of things. I was absolutely blown
away by the dahlias. But still this late in the season,

(01:14:38):
it really is quite amazing.

Speaker 13 (01:14:40):
Well, that's it. That's exactly what we can talk about
because it still keeps on going. Been here in christ Church.

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
Really yeah, okay, so yeah, I mean it is starting
to get pretty cool. I mean we've had daylight saving.
I know that that's not necessarily the marker of the
change in the seasons, but usually it's a bit of
an indication that things are changing.

Speaker 13 (01:15:00):
No, you're absolutely right, but there are still dozens and
dozens of varieties that are actually very calm, you even
in the botanic gardens. And so that is the point.
The point is you want to get into get to dahlias,
go and have a look at the botanic gardens, go
and have.

Speaker 17 (01:15:16):
A look at the various places that have.

Speaker 13 (01:15:19):
Good, good plants like that, and then literally take the
photos and get.

Speaker 17 (01:15:23):
On with it.

Speaker 13 (01:15:24):
And that's what this is about. So I'll give you
an example. I've got the mixed peppermint and the Pom
Pom Rusty.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
Got these names, I I know, the life yeah yeah, yeah,
I know.

Speaker 13 (01:15:38):
And Le Baron, which is very nice and purple deep.
And for the Dutch people, cannamar Land coctus and cannamar
Land is actually one of the Dutch places.

Speaker 17 (01:15:50):
You know, it's actually literally in a piece.

Speaker 13 (01:15:52):
Of land where the water is quite high. Anyway, currently
it's still growing time. That is the message that you
and I have just got from this last week. That's
still growing time. And to be serious, you know, we
need to keep them as plants producing before the winter starts.
So there you are good if you find Yeah, so

(01:16:12):
if you find the place the things that you want
to go and and I call them daily and.

Speaker 17 (01:16:17):
Thick hot spots.

Speaker 13 (01:16:20):
As daily are you know, and you get your orders
in now. If you like old drinks, dailier tubers, steel
water flowers, you know them all mighty then and all
that and basically that's the way to go. Once you
start in dahlia as you'll never ever forget how to
do it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
To be quite spring springtime is.

Speaker 13 (01:16:42):
The time to plant the right I was just going
to say that's the point, the big point. But you've
got to actually get those things organized first, start them
in in springtime. Away you go. The fertilizer is good
to use new parts, new plants, next.

Speaker 17 (01:16:59):
Level and pks I call it.

Speaker 13 (01:17:01):
And basically you can even do them as potted dahlias.
That's a nice one, Jack. You can actually have them
you know, even if it gets shitty weather, you can
put them in a more shielded position in a pott Dahlia,
especially when the potting mixes of good condition. So I
would say, don't wait.

Speaker 17 (01:17:20):
Have a go.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Very good, hey, thank you so much, Rude. I appreciate that.
We'll put those varietals up on the news Talks website.
You can have a look at some of the photos too.
They really are gorgeous. So getting organized now so you've
got your seeds for spring makes a lot of sense, right, absolutely,
very good, Thank you, Rude. Speaking of getting organized, news
team is standing by with the latest on the approach

(01:17:44):
of the cyclone. Some pretty significant ones already been recorded
in north Lander. Quick question through from learn Saint Jack.
Is the Artemis splash down being televised anywhere as it
reinters Earth. It's not on TV as such, but you
can watch a live stream on YouTube from NASA. It's
actually a really good live stream. You can see the
astronauts sitting there in the space shuttle coming down worth

(01:18:07):
so you just look that up on YouTube line. It's
almost eleven o'clock news time, Give a Jack Tamee Saturday morning.
This is news Talk.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Said well, you're heading out to start your Saturday turn off.
Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Tabe on News Talk said.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
B.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
Exactly one hour to go, exactly one hour sixty minutes,
and the astronauts on Artemis two will have splashed down
in the Pacific Ocean. I'm watching a live feed right
now of the to voyage, the four astronauts in the

(01:19:10):
capsule looking at a variety of screens as they get
close to Earth and begin the re entry process. It
all happens very quickly, like the business end of things,
happens in about twelve or fifteen minutes. I think. Once
they decide to re enter, they pull the tree up
down through the atmosphere. That's where it gets insanely hot.
They're traveling insanely fast, and then slowly they're brought down

(01:19:34):
to a more controllable speed. The parachutes deploy, and hopefully
all things going well, they will splosh down in the
Pacific Ocean in exactly fifty nine minutes. Cody, you're with
Jack Tame on News Talks. He'd be it is so
good to have you with us this morning. I'm going
to keep you up to speed as I'll watch the
Artemis two re entry process over the next hour or so.
If you want to watch it as well, you can

(01:19:54):
just have it on in the background. There YouTube has
a live stream from NASA right now. They've got the
little countdown clock in the top corner. Fifty eight minutes
and fifty one seconds, fifty seconds, forty nine seconds. Just
imagine how those astronauts will be feeling. I think this
must be more complex than the standard re entry for
astronauts have been visiting the Space Shuttle. But yeah, be

(01:20:16):
interesting actually, you know, it would be interesting to know
if from their perspective they as they orbit the Earth
preparing for re entry, if they can see cyclone Banu
I reckon, they might be able to write given its
size and strength and how cyclony it looks right now.
Speaking of of course, if you haven't yet got organized

(01:20:36):
and you were in the path of the storm, now
is the time to do it. You don't want to
be facing a massive crush at the supermarket. Later on
this afternoon. We're going to keep you up to speed
on newstalks. Z'd be with the very latest from met
Service and the various other authorities. Strong Wind's already being
recorded in Northland at the moment, things are still pretty
quiet around Auckland, although obviously things and Corimandel, Northland Auckland

(01:21:00):
regions expected to get pretty wild over the next twenty
four hours or so. Right before the day, we're going
to take you to coach Halla. It kicks off this weekend,
Justin Bieber on stage for the first time in four
years as one of the headliners, Sabrina Carpenter playing there
as well. So our music review is going to give
us his thoughts on the coach Hella line up and
we'll play you a couple of tracks from the stars
who'll be fronting their seven stages over the next couple

(01:21:23):
of weekends. As well as that, our travel correspondent is
taking us on a journey along Route sixty six in
the US, so he'll be with us shortly. Right now,
though it's ten past eleven. Ja time to catch up
with our sustainability expert Kate Hall is always here giving
us great practical tips on stuff we can do that
are never too painful to be just a little bit

(01:21:43):
more sustainable in our lives. Good morning, What am I Jack?
You have for us? Some hangout ideas with mates that
save you money and are sustainable so you are trying
to catch up with your buddies without going and spending
an absolute bomb on a super fancy dinner or anything
like that, something that can be a bit simpler.

Speaker 15 (01:22:02):
Yeah, exactly. I think, you know, it's important to still
be social, but sometime I'm the thought of you going
out and having to pay drinks and a meal or
you know, like all the kind of costs that come
with it, especially at the moment, can feel a bit overwhelming.
And there are so many, particularly sustainable ways that we
can still gather and still have a lot of fun.
I would argue probably more fun these ideas than just

(01:22:25):
sitting at a bar and kind of just sitting there
making small talk.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
Yeah, it's funny. You know they always say with men
that men have to be doing stuff. I mean they
don't have to be, but you know, I mean, like
do stuff to socialize because they're not very good at
kind of steering opposite each other over a long black
steering into each other.

Speaker 15 (01:22:44):
Yeah. Yeah, let's just go for a walk or something,
you know, like it. I feel like then you can
talk about something and yeah, that's right, you're like doing stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
Yeah. Yeah, anyway, so you've got some great little practical
ideas for us this morning. Let's start off with a
seed or plants swap.

Speaker 15 (01:22:59):
Yes, so everyone would bring a seeds, like a packet
of seeds, seedlings or cuttings, so you cuttings from your
house plants or some seedlings that you know you've grown
heaps and you've got some excess. So you imagine if okay,
let's say there's like ten people. Imagine if you bring
ten little seedlings of tomatoes, and then you'd come home

(01:23:21):
with ten seedlings, but of all different varieties because they're
bringing something different. So yeah, that could be a really
really fun one. Also a baking slop, so the same idea,
but you're bringing his favorite thing that you like to bake.
Then again, you go home with a whole lot of
different things, some new flavors, and you're not just left

(01:23:42):
with like a bult load of brownie.

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good idea. I'm into that. That's good,
and that could kind of work for other meals as well,
I suppose.

Speaker 15 (01:23:50):
Yes, yeah, exactly, I like the idea. I'm actually planning
on diners. This is my friend. So there's a meal
prep slop. So you imagine if you cook just one
big dish. So like Tim and I really like making nachos.
So if you just bulk make a whole of nachos,
put them in little portion containers, and bring them to
your meal crip party if you want to call it,

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and then you come home with all sorts of different
meals and so you've got like a whole variety and
you haven't had to make everything or go out and
get all the ingredients. And yeah, you've got a whole
lot of different meals for your fridge of freezer.

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
Yeah, that's a really good idea. Actually, you could just
do like a let say you did a massive lasagne
or yeah, you don't want to make a Lasania, but
you know what I mean, like you could do You
could just do a really big batch and then you
could actually end up with five different meals if you
did a really Yeah that's cunning. I'm into that. You
can do the same kind of swap when it comes
to clothes, Yes, yeah, I.

Speaker 15 (01:24:46):
Think people have likely heard of clothing stop and so yeah,
you bring a whole munch of clothes you no longer want,
and that's less less like the baking and meal one,
when you kind of bring sort of portions, But I've
seen clothing stops at best when you just bring kind
of all the clothes that you don't need you think

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would so different people come into the party and then
anything that you know, one kind of takes home or
that nothing finds at home, you can donate to the upshop.

Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
O nice, and the swat theme continues for things from
your pantry.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Yep.

Speaker 15 (01:25:20):
I've seen some awesome slop parties of people bring like
jams and chutney, sourdo staters, you know, like any different
things like these xtraps. I really love making these xtraps.
So again, it's like using everyone's different skills to do
something you know you love but do yeah, like a
home goods slop. You can even do like things around

(01:25:42):
your house that you no longer love or you know,
like home deake or just get yeah, get creatives. And
it could be so much fun and actually be quite
a last.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
Yeah, and a great way to socialize while kind of
saving money as well. And I suppose like there's something
about that kind of shed experience thing too that actually
I don't want to get too like grandiose on this,
but it can kind of actually helps to forge connections.

Speaker 17 (01:26:04):
Ah, yeah, oh exactly.

Speaker 15 (01:26:06):
It's part of like community resilience as well, that you
you know, you're kind of connecting, you're sharing skills, You're
not just sharing drinks. You know, you're kind of you
have someone to talk about, and you get to know
your friends much more too, because you're.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
Like, yeah, you're talking about the things you're going to
be labor. Yeah, exactly, you can talk about the things
that you're going to be wrapping in Kate's beeswax wraps.

Speaker 15 (01:26:28):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
That's a really good idea.

Speaker 13 (01:26:31):
No, I'm into it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
I think it's a really good idea. I guess you
could call them swap parties.

Speaker 15 (01:26:35):
Yes, exactly right, you can stop anything really Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
Very good. I thank you, Kay love that. We'll put
those suggestions up on the news talks heb website, and
of course you can find Kate on social media. Just
search ethically Kate on all of the main platforms and
you will pop right up right it's quarter past eleven
on news talks. He'd be thank you for your feedback.
Michael's flip me a text. So Jack, I've just tuned
into YouTube and I'm intrigued with the speed gauge increasing

(01:26:59):
as I text. So at the start of punching out
this message the Crown Artemists, we're doing thirteen nine hundred
and eight two miles an hour. They're now hitting fourteen
five hundred and fifty five miles per hour and climbing.
It's going to be a hell of a ride. Interesting
you say that, Michael, I've actually gone and had a
quick check of what is the major difference in bringing
back the astronauts on Artemis versus bringing back astronauts from

(01:27:23):
the International Space Station, And it all comes down to speed.
So these guys will be re entering about ten thousand
kilometers an hour faster than the crews from the International
Space Station would be re entering. And when you re
enter faster, things get a whole lot hotter. So the

(01:27:44):
heat shield on Artemis two apparently has to be able
to sustain temperatures roughly half as hot as the surface
of the Sun, which from all accounts is very hot.
So you really want to make sure the engineering is
going to hold true here. And this is you might
remember with the first Artemis mission. Once they got it
back to Earth and everything was okay, NASA did some

(01:28:06):
you know, kind of did its various tests and things,
and they were a bit alarmed at how much the
outer part of the heat shield had deteriorated, so they
reckoned that actually it had deteriorated a whole lot more
than their early models had suggested it would, so they
had to kind of go and read just a few
bits and pieces there. Anyway, that's the big difference between

(01:28:27):
Artemis two and the regular astronauts coming back from the
International Space Station a whole lot faster, which equals a
whole lot hotter. NASA said that it basically has to
be twelve minutes of a whole lot of things going
right in order to get them back to Worth safely.
So yeah, i'll keep you up to speed with that.
If you want to watch the live stream of the
re entry, you can do on YouTube. NASA's gone on

(01:28:48):
its official YouTube page, and they're kind of scrolling between
images of the astronauts in the capsule, alongside the mission
control in Houston and various other experts who are doing
interviews and things. So yeah, it's really interesting. Their due
to land in just under fifty minutes, seven past twe
of New Zealand time. They should be back, So yeah,

(01:29:08):
we'll keep you up to speak with that. Seventeen past eleven,
our travel expert is taking us to Root sixty six
in Arizona.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Next travel with Windy WU Tours Where the world is
Yours for now.

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
Correspondent Mike Yardley has been enjoying the Artemis live stream
as well. Mike, I mean, I know you take us
to some exotic places, but I mean that instead of
setting things to the next level, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
Oh my goodness, I've been enjoying how you've been nooding
out on this as much as me.

Speaker 8 (01:29:37):
Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
Actually, I mentioned to Libby there was this interesting shot
on the Nassa feated about fifteen minutes ago, and it
appeared to be an aerial shot of Australasia and you
could actually see Cyclone Guiana just above Zello look LARGINALI.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
Yes, yeah, I mean, honestly, it has been kind of
spooky this morning, and it was all of last night
as well in Auckland at the very least, like just
so still, you know, very much the calm before the storm.
But yeah, yeah, they're already recording some significant wins around
Northland and obviously things other than next twenty four hours
are expected to get yeah serious, So yeah, we'll be

(01:30:16):
watching that space, but we're turning our attentions to things
a little closer to Terra Firma this morning, and that
Arizona's Route sixty six, sixty six, which turns one hundred
this year.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
Yes, Jack, the cross country Classic between Chicago and Santa Monica.
A lot of Americans call it the main Street of America,
Route sixty six, and it's amazing how many people are
lured onto that road every year. I was chatting to
a local and Arizona who said, last year we reckon.
We had twelve million internationals stop in our town because

(01:30:50):
of Route sixty six. So I've knocked off various sections
of the route over the years, but I still think
that the Northern Arizona section is one of the best
if you just want to give yourself a sample of
the entire So I went back there a couple of
weeks ago, and what's interesting Jack about Northern Arizona section

(01:31:12):
is that the route was officially decommissioned forty years ago
to make way for the Interstate Highway. But I've just
got so many retro wreathed towns built around that historic
route that endure and are booming in northern Arizona despite
being bypassed by I forty nice.

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
So where is a good starting point for the Arizona section?

Speaker 17 (01:31:36):
Then?

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Yeah, well, a lot of folk will set off from
La But to be honest, you've got that very soulless
sprawl of Death Valley in the Mahabi Desert and it's
interminably boring hour upon our, upon our, So frankly I
would skip that and launch off from Las Vegas because
you also have the spectacle of the Hoover Dam just

(01:32:00):
outside of Las Vegas before you hit Arizona's Route sixty
six and the section across Arizona stretches for about three
hundred k so break it up into chunks. Kingman is
the first town. It's a wash in motoring memorabilia, lots
of instabate, and it's also home to one of I reckon,
one of the best old school diners on Route sixty six,

(01:32:23):
Mister D's. It's been a fixture since the nineteen fifties.
You have expect the fonds to appear as you're ordering
up your waffles Jack lots of vintage bowsers outside mister D's.
Oprah Winfrey is a fan of mister d. So it
must be good.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
Right, Yeah, too, right? So what would be your what
would be your favorite town?

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
I would say Seligman. It's a stunner and I'm a
bit of a history geek. And what I love about
Seligman is it's considered as the birthplace of Historic Route
sixty six because it was this town that convinced Congress
to declear the route a National Historic Landmark. And the guy,

(01:33:06):
respect Constable and Saligman, was a small town barber, Angel Delgadillo.
He's now ninety nine and he's still kicking. I chatted
to his granddaughter in the gift shop a few weeks ago.
And Angel's brother actually opened up the snow Cap Driving,
which is right next door. That's been going for seventy

(01:33:27):
years and it's the most radiantly colorful and kitchen driving.
It's got a Chevrolet on its roof. And these guys
at the drive in they hold the Guinness World Record
for offering the most milkshake flavors. I've got two twenty
six flavors on off for Jackso shakeaway.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
Yeah, okay. And is William's best for accommodation.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
Great overnight stop? Yes, And it's also the gateway into
the Grand Canyon. So if you want to do all
we sidetrap at the canyon, you can. The main street
of Williams is just bathed in the on It's just
got that retro glow of all things Route sixty six
great gift shops. I actually stayed at this really little
hotel called Red Garter, and it's about a century old,

(01:34:15):
and back in the day it was a booming brothel.
It's now ranked as one of America's most haunted hotels.
Not that I knew that before I arrived, Jeff, I
can't say I saw anything, but there was some very
strange noises overnight, and just as I was leaving, I
was flecking through the guest book, and oh my goodness,
it was littered with extraordinary accounts from disbelieving guests, just from.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
The previous two weeks. Really sorts of sight.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
Yeah, just like just pages upon pages of stories of
citings and encounters. So if you do like a hotel
that extends its range of amenities to ghosts, and you
have come to the right place.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
And here's a history by the sounds of things, yeah right. Indeed,
so heating further east, tell us about flag Staff and Winslow.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
Yeah, but both really good, sturdy towns, lots of classic
stone buildings. There's a real western field, real cowboy feel
to Flagstar for example. And then just out of Winslow
a must do is the Meteor Crater. So this is
the meteorite that crashed to Earth fifty thousand years ago
that caused this crater. The size of it, it's hard

(01:35:28):
to describe, Jack, but in terms of metrics, it's twenty
rugby fields wide. It's as deep as a sixty story building.
So it is just this giant puncture in the Earth's surface.
It's like this massive amphitheater. In fact, if it was
a stadium, it could seat two million people and with

(01:35:51):
all eyes currently on itemis interesting. Little side note. NASA's
previous Moon missions actually used Meteor Crater as a training
site for Apollo based Onwards because its surface is so lunar.

Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
Like wow, okay, yeah, that's amazing, isn't it. Do you
know how big the meteor was that made Metior Crator?

Speaker 3 (01:36:16):
Oh I did see a figure somewhere. It is available
on the internet.

Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
They reckon it was only about fifty meters across. Really, yeah, yeah, yeah,
oh my good I mean, I say you think about
you think about like half a rugby pitch, right, yeah,
half a rugby pitch flying to the earth at you know,
crashing into the earth at five thousand kilometers an hour
or whatever it was. You know, like absolutely crazy. You

(01:36:42):
can you can understand how it made a creter, but
then extrapolate from that how big the meteor must have
been and how big the crater would have been before
it was filled in. That wiped out the dinosaurs right.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
Totally, which was on the Yucatan Peninsula.

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
Yeah, that's right, that's right. Yeah, but it's now kind
of filled in, so you can't you don't. You can't
see it like you can see the meteor crater in Arizona.
But yeah, it's yeah, it's crazy because it is enormous.

Speaker 8 (01:37:07):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:37:08):
So what other natural attractions are in the neighborhoods.

Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
Well, it's just the cool thing about the Arizona section
of Root sixty six. Check, it's not just all that
retro kitchy stuff. It is nature. So they've got the
only national park on Route sixty six in northern Arizona.
It's the Petrified Forest. Yeah, and it really is quite something.
So this is like a fossilized forest buried by vulcanic

(01:37:31):
cash millions of years ago. So what you see today
when you rock up to it, it's this very strange
mashup of millions of sparkly courts logs just lying across
the landscape. And that park is also home to the
Painted Desert, which is just a blaze with all of
this multi colored rock bands of red and violet and green.

(01:37:55):
It is another dazzler in the bag of tricks on
Route sixty six.

Speaker 4 (01:37:59):
Oh that sounds so good. Thank you, Mike. Well, make
sure all of Mike's taps for exploring Arizona's Root sixty
six are up on the news togs. He'd be website.
Enjoy that Artemis live stream, Mike, and we will catch
you again very soon. Just coming up to eleven thirty
on News Talks B, we will see what Jason Pine
has for us on Weekend Sport.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
Next, getting your weekend started.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
It's Saturday morning with Jack Team on News Talks' B.

Speaker 4 (01:38:51):
That's the Strokes and last night they're playing at Coachella
this weekend. Oh that is that is one that I
would be prioritizing. Be amazing across the seven stages that
you've really got to kind of try and plot who
you see and where you go and all that kind
of stuff. But oh my goodness, if it was the
Strokes Beber, Yeah, not much similar equation for me. Jason Pine,
on the other hand, has different thoughts. I don't builts

(01:39:14):
at all. A big show for Week in Sport this afternoon,
right after the Middan news kicking off with artamis landing.
It's gonna be as you welcome ever onto the show.
You have to have the live stream up and going absolutely,
But you're looking at volunteer numbers this afternoon because it
really says a lot about the state of grassroots sport,

(01:39:35):
and grassroots sport of course is the kind of gateway
to our elite sport. And you know, and there's a
bit of concern about volunteer numbers at the moment.

Speaker 22 (01:39:43):
Right Yeah, they've been dropping for a while. In fact,
I think really you can trace it back to COVID,
and you know, it's never really been a full recovery
as far as those volunteer numbers are concerned. But now
there are clubs in real danger of not being able
to fulfill their commitments to their members. Particularly their junior teams.
Is a club in Wellington, Western Suburbs, not far from
where I live actually, and they are in desperate need

(01:40:04):
of forty junior coaches the White zero four zero. Otherwise
forty junior teams are not going to have a coach
and times that by and some of these junior teams have.
You know, there's sort of seven a side atu sides,
so let's say ten people in the squad and on
from there, you're talking four or five hundred kids who
won't won't have a team to play for. So here's real,

(01:40:25):
here's where we are with it. And that's just one club.
I'm sure there are others that have similar issues. So
why are volunteer numbers down? How can we get them back?
And what are people's grassroots experiences because from the top
of the country to the bottom, Jack, you know this
this is a you know, clubs are so important to
our community, so why aren't more people investing there their

(01:40:46):
voluntary time and making sure they continue. So it's a
wide and ranging discussion, which I'd like to have this afternoon. Yeah,
so that'll be just after the Artemis landing, just after
mid day and.

Speaker 4 (01:40:56):
After the disaster on the White Matah for the Black Foils.
You've got an update for us this afternoon on the
state of MW Zealand sale GP team Blair Chooks.

Speaker 22 (01:41:05):
And yeah, he's on the show, the sal GP circus,
so it's not a circus that you know, the road
show moves on there. They're in Rio, this squisky good Way. Yeah,
it's all the good parts of the circus. They're in
Rio this weekend. I know Blair Chuck and Peter Berlin
were really looking forward to being in Rio. That's where
they won their Olympic gold medal ten years ago. They're
not going to be there. When will they be on
the start line. We'll get an update from Blair Chirk

(01:41:27):
the next one after Rio, there's there's one in Bermuda
in the middle of next month and then New York
at the back end of next month into into June.
Any chance will find out and also just see what
what emotional scarring mental scarring there is after that. Yeah,
horrendous crash on the White to Matar Harbor when sale
GP was here, so ye're looking forward to to finding

(01:41:48):
out a bit more about that as well.

Speaker 4 (01:41:49):
Do you have one of those robot vacuum cleaners.

Speaker 22 (01:41:52):
No, the one that goes by itself.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
Yeah, yeah, no, no.

Speaker 7 (01:41:57):
Be careful.

Speaker 4 (01:41:58):
If you've got a dog, they have a pet, got
two cats? Okay, no, that's a good, good reason not
to have one, I think, because you know, they always
reckon that the robot vacuum cleaners aren't very good noticing
when your cat might have danced business somewhere it shouldn't.
And then they go back and forth and back and forth,
and back and forth and back and forth, and all
of a sudden, what might have been a contained disaster
becomes a much less contained disaster. Anyway, the reason I

(01:42:19):
ask is we're going to look at a book at
a couple of minutes called The Infinite Sadness of Small Appliances.
That is a delightful sounding book written from the perspective
of a robot vacuum cleaner. Well, there you go. Okay,
it sounds award winning to me. We do variety, you know.
We do Artemis two landing back, the re entry processes,
the complex geometry that underpins Nash's most ambitious mission in years.

(01:42:43):
We do the State of Volunteers in New Zealand Sport,
and we do the Infinite Sandness of small appliances very
much looking forward to this afternoon. Thank you, sir Planks,
Jack A Joe, Thanks. Jason Pine with us right after
the midday news on News Talks. 'db your book picks
for this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
Next Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on
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Speaker 4 (01:43:05):
Up to twenty to twelve on you still he'd be.
Katherine Rains, book reviewer, has her picks for this weekend.
Get a Catherine, Hello, Jack. Could be a very good weekend.
I reckon for just parking up on the couch with
a couple of good reads. And so our first for
this weekend is The Keeper by Tana French.

Speaker 19 (01:43:21):
So this is part of a trilogy and it's actually
the third part and it follows the trilogy has followed
this guy, Carl Hooper, who was a retired cargo cop
and he moved to this very small town at an
Arkley in Ireland. And you know, he's there because it's
simple and beautiful and he just wants some peace. And
of course he's not found a lot of that, apart
from how beautiful the place is. Instead, he's found himself

(01:43:42):
involved in you know, the webs, of how people work
in you know, centuries of people thinking of what other
people think and binding them together in their past. And
so after the sort of four years he's been there,
he's built you know, this place for him amongst the
townspeople there, and he's fixed up his cottage and he's
got a dog, and he makes craft furniture, and he's

(01:44:05):
engaged to this woman called Lena, and he's been mentoring
this team called Trey, and he's quite well liked in
the town. And then this young woman, Rachel Hurlahan goes
missing and she's found dead at the river, and the
whole town is entangled in this, and of course there's
more to her death that meets the eye. Was it suicide,
was it murder? Was it an accident? And she herself

(01:44:27):
was about to become engaged to this guy, Eugene, who's
the son of the wealthiest and most influential man in
the town, Tommy Mornihan, And people in the town are
split over their opinions and theories and rumors and gossip
fly around the town, and characters change and opinions change,
and there's questionable motives and you get this very authentic

(01:44:48):
environment of the small town and you feel the humidity
of the fog, and you feel like you're in the
local pub chatting with the locals around the issues. They're
never saying exactly what they mean or directly saying what's
on their mind, and you get immersed in this story
and wonderful characters and the rumors and the gossip and
the friction and the suspicion of the locals. It adds
to this intense part of the mystery of what's going on.

Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
Oh, superb okay, that's The Keeper by Tanna French. I've
got to say I am delighted by the sound of
your next book for us this morning, The Infinite Sadness
of Small Appliances by Glenn Dixon.

Speaker 19 (01:45:22):
So this is quite a dystopian story, a little bit
on the cozy side, actually, and it's about a bunch
of household appliances, in particular this very naive and curious
roomba called Scout, and she lives in this comfortable home
with Harold and Edie and it's been perfect for raising
their family, which they've now done, and Kate's an adult.

(01:45:45):
They're both retired and they're really enjoying their years together.
But then Edie becomes ill and the small appliances around
the house start to notice and they start to try
and help out more and despite the circumstances of her
declining house, sort of, the first half of the book
has a very relaxed feel and your kind of the
appliances are engaging, but you know, apart from Harrold struggling

(01:46:07):
to come to terms with what's happening with his wife.
And then the story progresses a little more and Kate
returns home to help her dad and through what's going
on with Edie, and this story actually becomes far more dystopian,
and you get this into this character, this overseeing entity
called the Grid, and it's monitoring the home and the
inhabitants and these human feelings, and the appliances quickly figure

(01:46:31):
out that the overarge in Grid won't let Harol and
his appliance has stayed together in this house and they're
trying to keep their humans happy and cared for. And
you get multiple points of view that include lots of
humans and a very spark vacuum cleaner of course, which
is Scout, and there's quirky and it's a very touching
read and it makes you think about things, particularly things
like II. And then every time you call for Alexa

(01:46:54):
or Google to do something that's very personalized for you,
it certainly make you think about it. After you've read this.

Speaker 4 (01:46:58):
Book, Oh very good. Okay, this sounds fun. The Infinite
Sadness of Small Appliance is by Glenn Dixon. Catherine's first
book is The Keeper by Tanna Friends. All the dates are,
of course, at newstalksb dot co Dot. Indeed, we're off
to Coachella next.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
Where the weekend finds its rhythm. Saturday morning with Jack
Tame on News Talks, it'd be well.

Speaker 23 (01:47:20):
You've quite an impression, Saffy to be you wonder why
it is closed.

Speaker 7 (01:47:30):
When miss and my god, he's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
There's none gone, but you're still next to me, bonded,
great separation.

Speaker 23 (01:47:45):
You're got together, and.

Speaker 14 (01:47:47):
It's true you'll just.

Speaker 23 (01:47:49):
Have to chase me when kissing me you're forever then
you do know you want to.

Speaker 4 (01:47:58):
Chase me to stalk the brain carpenter and taste. She
is one of the headliners at Coachella this weekend. Our
music review Chris Schultz isn't there in person, but he's
there in spirit and he will certainly be there on
the live stream.

Speaker 24 (01:48:13):
One hundred percent. This to me is the TV event
of the year. You can forget about Game of Thrones
or the White Loaders or whatever it is, stranger things.
This every year, to me is just that this is
where I am.

Speaker 4 (01:48:25):
Okay, this is going to upset you. I've never never
watched the Coachella live stream. I've never done it. No, okay,
so slid to me, give us the cell.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
It's so I.

Speaker 24 (01:48:33):
Cannot believe they're not charging for this thing. If you've
got an Internet connection and a YouTube account, you can
watch the seven stages. There's seven channels all streaming this
festival live. It is a chance to see where all
of the biggest artists in the world are at, and
artists are made or broken on that stage. Sublime played
Auckland last night with their new singer who debuted at

(01:48:56):
Coachella last year. Like they're booked based on these performances,
and so many have gone down in a history box
outcasts Reunited, They're raging into the machine reunited there. Yeah,
they had an easy hologram play with n w A
one year.

Speaker 4 (01:49:11):
I remember that.

Speaker 7 (01:49:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:49:13):
So there's so much happening, and there's always he surprises this.
The big thing this year is Justin Bieber. Right, he
hasn't played live on the scale for I want to say,
seven or eight years. He canceled in New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (01:49:26):
Towards health problems. Yeah, there were.

Speaker 24 (01:49:30):
Rumors of mental health issues. He's he's back, he's headlining. Yeah,
everyone expects him to be showing up in a very
different way. He played one song at the Grammys. It
was spectacular, shirtless. He came out almost like an ad
sharing with a Luke Peter and guitar, and it was
kind of it was stunning. It was so raw. It
was like Justin Bieber, We've never seen him before. The

(01:49:50):
rumors are that he's going to do the whole set
like that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:54):
Wow.

Speaker 24 (01:49:54):
Whether he can do that for ninety minutes, I don't know,
but I'm definitely going to be watching to find out.

Speaker 4 (01:49:59):
Yeah, that'd be amazing. So how does it work? Like
when you're watching it at home? Do you You just
set up in the lounge.

Speaker 24 (01:50:05):
And no one's umping into you. There's no smelly dude
with a shirt off.

Speaker 4 (01:50:08):
Next you, The drinks are cold, always a portal or
anything like, the snakes.

Speaker 24 (01:50:13):
Are great, and you don't have that pomo where you've
got to run, Like my legs are still sore from
the summer festival season. You don't have to run from
stage to stage.

Speaker 11 (01:50:21):
You just flick the.

Speaker 24 (01:50:22):
Channel and there are ads. Look, if you don't have
a YouTube premium account, there'll be an L two pop up.
But there is so many good acts like today right
you can see the x X, the Strokes are playing,
Turnstyle are playing. I mean, these are some of the
biggest acts in the world right now. Yeah, it's all
happening over three days, and it's all happening again next weekend,

(01:50:42):
which is also live streams, So that's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:50:45):
How they do that day, how they they do it.
They have it over a weekend, then have a bit
of a cleanup and then have another go again.

Speaker 24 (01:50:52):
It's it's wild.

Speaker 17 (01:50:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:50:54):
The only festival on that scale in New Zealand is
Electric Avenue. That may sort of get to that at
one point, but in terms of live stream being no
one does it like Coachella and all eyes are on
this festival. You know, there are bigger festivals around the world.
Is Lastonbury's and all those big European festivals. I think
Coachell is about one hundred and twenty five thousand each weekend.
But it's the one, It's the one everyone watches. This

(01:51:17):
is this is where artists you find out where they
are and where they're at and who really is running
this game?

Speaker 4 (01:51:22):
Yeah, so I mean there are dozens and dozens of artists,
But who would be standing out for you this weekend
if you were there in person or I guess who
will we be prioritizing on your stream with your seven
different stages.

Speaker 24 (01:51:34):
The x X are back after eight years. They're that
the cure gentle indie.

Speaker 25 (01:51:38):
Rock music, or that was that The first couple of
albums were very stripped back, Like the whole kind of
thing was they were very insular that locked themselves in
a room and have these kind of quiet but.

Speaker 24 (01:51:49):
Almost like on the phone, the conversations to each other.
It's so intimate. I think that will really work in
a large scale setting now, like we've seen that intimately
on a grand scale work with artists like Freda Gin
and Lord, and I think they have time there run back.
I saw some live footage from a warm up show
they did, and they just look in magnificent form. I
really want to see the nine inch Noise Dance mesh Up,

(01:52:12):
which is Trent Resner's industrial rock act turned into a
rave as You Do, As You Do Aggy Pops Yeah play,
which is he must be the seventh birthday. Yeah, on
the bill he still takes his shirt off. He was
here just recently doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:52:28):
Yeah, I mean there's just so much clips on the
final day of playing Sabrina Carpenter. I mean, my daughter's
going to be sitting there watching that for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:52:36):
So yeah, Geese they're playing here having you've seen them recently,
I know. But yeah, okay, yeah, massive weekend at coach Ali.
Do you know what time it starts? New Zealand time?

Speaker 24 (01:52:45):
It's all right now? Oh literally getting in my car
after this, heading straight home and getting some sex.

Speaker 8 (01:52:51):
Go.

Speaker 4 (01:52:51):
It's so good.

Speaker 8 (01:52:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:52:53):
I love the I love the thought of you your
family coming up to you across the weekend and you
just like parking up in front of the TV and
getting the different streams going. Does sound amazing? Okay, we're
going to play. I reckon play. But to Justin Bieber
in a couple of minutes, I was very mean to
Justin Bieber a few minutes ago. But actually, you know
what I like some of his music. I'm not embarrassed
to say it.

Speaker 24 (01:53:08):
I think after this weekend, everyone's opinions of him are
going to be changed. If he can pull us off,
it's going to be a very different from it.

Speaker 17 (01:53:16):
Yeah, very good.

Speaker 4 (01:53:17):
Okay, well look enjoy coach, Hello weekend, and we will
catch you again very soon. That is Chris Schultz. Of course
you can hear more from Chris on his substack. His
substack is boiler Room. We're back with the Beabs in
a couple of minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
Sweet ass listening for your Saturday Saturday morning with Jack
Day on News talks.

Speaker 4 (01:53:36):
Be right, Oh that is us for Saturday morning together
on news Talks.

Speaker 17 (01:53:40):
He be.

Speaker 4 (01:53:41):
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wonderful producers Libby and Heidi for doing the tough stuff
this morning. We're going to leave you with Justin Bieber.
I'm just letting you know the Artemis two mission has begun.

(01:54:03):
Its re entry process. So these are the all important
in twelve or thirteen minutes before splash down. The live
stream on YouTube is pretty spectaculous. You might want to
watch that if you can. I bet with you Nick
Saturday morning and tell them we're gonna leave you with
Justin Bieber. He's playing Coachella. This is Love Yourself season and.

Speaker 7 (01:54:21):
The Fuesdays that I'm still holding on to something. You
should go and love yourself. When you told me that
she'll hate it, my friends, the only problem was with
you and not them. And every time you told me

(01:54:42):
in my opinion was wrong, I try to make me
forget where I came from. And I didn't want to
write it song because I didn't want anyone thinking I
still care. Don't, but you still hit my phone, UF
and baby, I'll be moving on, and I think it

(01:55:02):
should be something that I don't want to hold back.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
Maybe you should know.

Speaker 7 (01:55:08):
That my mom I don't like you and she likes everyone.

Speaker 13 (01:55:13):
And I never.

Speaker 7 (01:55:14):
Lied to admit that I was wrong. And I've been
so caught up in my job did to see what's
going on, And now I know I've had to stay
being all my elcus. If you like the way you
look that must. Oh baby, you should go and love yourself.

(01:55:37):
And if you think that I'm still holding on to something,
you should go and love yourself. Other times that you

(01:56:08):
made me feel small, I fell in love. Now I
feel nothing at all. I never felt so low when
I was growing up?

Speaker 13 (01:56:21):
Was I our food?

Speaker 7 (01:56:21):
Something that you break down my balls? Because if you're
the way you look down much, oh baby, you should.

Speaker 13 (01:56:31):
Go and love yourself.

Speaker 7 (01:56:35):
And the few things that I'm still holding on to something,
you should go and lock yourself. Because if you're like
the way you look down much, so babies should go
and lock yourself. And the few things you think that

(01:56:57):
still holding no to something, you should go and lock yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
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