Full Show Podcast: 11 July 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:42):
Code and New Zealand. Good morning and welcome to News
Talk s EDB. Jack Tame with you this long weekend,
So good to be with you. And yeah, not only
is it Matadikey weekend, not only is it match Day weekend,
it is Mody weekend. It is actually like quite remarkable
seeing a leader of Narene Tramodi's international status in New Zealand.

(01:02):
I know it's a whirlwind trip. I know he's not
here for long, but I also know that the logistics
involved for something like this would be absolutely preposterous. You
thought your wedding was complicated, It is nothing on Mody's
visit down Under. I've actually had a couple of minutes,
not one on one with Narene Ramoti, but I had
an interesting experience chasing Nearene Remodi back when John Key

(01:24):
was Prime Minister and the two of them had a
bit of a meetup in Washington, DC. So I will
tell you about that this morning, and of course we're
going to keep you up to speed with all of
Narene Romodi's various events over the next couple of hours.
It's a fast and furious schedule, so he's going to
be he's going to be pretty busy. We're going to
pack show for you this morning as well a feature
interview after ten o'clock. Key We Broadcasting legend, someone who

(01:46):
I reckon. People sometimes say to me that they think
I have an enviable job, and I get it, I do,
But I look at Laura mcgoldreck and I'm like, you know,
what if I could just add a little bit of
cricket broadcasting to my work schedule, if I could just
whip off to the Odd World Cup and you know,
travel around the world being paid to watch crack. But

(02:06):
that wouldn't that would be so bad, would it? So
she's going to be with us after ten to tell
us how she got that dream gig this morning before
ten a delicious lemon and yogurt putting recipe if you're
looking for something a little bit treaty this long weekend.
Right now, it's eight minutes past nine, Jack dam So
I'm in Wellington for Maturiki this weekend. Alas I'm not

(02:28):
here for the rugby I'm here to see family and
to celebrate my mate's fortieth birthday. But being Wellington and
being the midwinter school holidays, it was I don't know
about four degrees yesterday at my parents in law's house.
The wind and rain were coming in sideways, and although

(02:49):
I always always insist on getting young kids outside and
running them as much as possible, most of yesterday was
spent in the lounge. So with what three generations and
four kids under ten in a confined space, board games
and books were only even going to get us so

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far enter the old family videos. Honestly, it was the
perfect day for it. Yesterday my father in law pulled
out a digitized home video set from the early nineties, which,
by the way, is a great reminder to hurry up
and digitize your old family videos before it's too late,
and we all together sat down to kind of marvel

(03:32):
and delight at what life for our family used to be.
And I don't know, but there was something something kind
of quaint about that era of family home videos. You know,
it was before the nifty little family handycam era where
you would see tourists documenting every second of their trip

(03:55):
to Disneyland. It was much earlier. It was about, I think,
the very first time that video camera technology made it
possible to go and film stuff at home by yourself.
It's when the whole concept of a home video was
kind of invented. And growing up, I remember Mum coming
home from work with an enormous contraption. She'd borrowed it

(04:17):
for a couple of days, and from memory, you know,
it sort of almost required its own coal fired boiler
just to fire up and start recording. And it turns
out my wife's family's experience was almost exactly the same.
A giant camera, super expensive back then relative to incomes,
borrowed for a couple of days for a couple of
precious home videos, and watching the videos yesterday, I was

(04:41):
struck by a few things. So first of all, they
really are time capsules. And for whatever reason back then,
people just loved to hit record and leave those things rolling.
I don't know what it was. I mean, you couldn't
go back and edit things easily, right, But for whatever reason,
no one ever seemed to button off. And it means

(05:02):
though that over the kind of ten or fifteen or
twenty minutes of the same continuous shot, if you really
make the effort to observe, you notice all sorts of
little details. So there's the obvious stuff that's changed, you know,
the fashion, the floral print dresses, the perms, the bowl haircuts,
the mustaches, the knittard sweaters with different fruit on the front.

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But honestly, even the little things I found really interesting,
you know, like shots of kitchens without dishwashers, birthday and
party decorations that were saved and recycled, and they saved
and recycled year after year after year. In the case
of our family, old bedsheets that were slung over the
good couches to try and protect the catches. No computers anywhere,

(05:48):
no cell phones, no screens. And the thing that really
hit me yesterday watching these videos was the strength of genetics.
And of course I've seen heaps of photos of my
wife and her brother from when they were kids, but
the videos we watched were the first move moving pictures
I had seen of my brother in law at about

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the same age as our nine year old is today.
And honestly, it was extraordinary, like really extraordinary, just the
way the little boy in the video was moving or
was kind of holding his body, and the ways in
which he was laughing. It was all so shockingly familiar.

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I was almost spluttering as I was watching it, turning
my head from the boy on the TV across the
room to a near mirror image of a boy in
the flesh giggling as he watched his uncle on the screen.
It's crazy how strong that stuff is.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
You know.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
We always think of genetics as just being the hair color,
eye color, that kind of thing. But all of these
barely tangible little things about the ways in which we
moved through the world are defined by genetics. And it's
only when you're confronted by someone from thirty years ago
on the screen who looks almost exactly the same as
someone sitting right next to you on the couch that
you realize how significant it is. The other thing that

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really struck me was the value of scarcity. And look,
perhaps I am romanticizing it a bit much, but one
of the things that makes the home videos of that
era so precious is that there aren't many of them.
Recording a video back then was an event, not just
because of the coal boiler needed to fire the camera

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into life, but because cameras were super expensive and it
took serious planning to actually organize them. And you know,
obviously we have gained a lot by having extraordinary video
cameras in our pockets, immediately accessible any time of the day.
But ah, I just wonder if we have also lost

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something too. There was a genuine sense of wonder for
all of us three generations in sitting down and soaking
up scenes from three decades ago. And honestly, it'd be
a shame to think it becomes something my kids just
take for granted. Jack Ta ninety two ninety two is

(08:14):
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Before ten o'clock, we've got your film picks for this weekend,
including our reviewers. Thoughts on Mowana. You're thinking, how on

(08:35):
this second Moana that's that's been out for ages. No,
this is, of course the Mouana live action, not to
be confused with the original Disney Mojuana. So she's gonna
tell us all about that very shortly next up, though,
Kevin Milman will kick us off for our Saturday Morning together.
Right now, it's quarter past nine, It's Saturday morning. I'm
Jack Tam and this is Newstalk ZEDB.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
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Jack tar on News Talk zied B.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Jack, I recently found Christmas film from the late eighties.
It's uncanny how our son, who is twenty four, Well,
it can't be if it was the late eighties, you know. Anyway,
how our son, how similar our son is to our husband,
amazing to see she's Sharon. Come on, Jack, the nineties
wasn't the invention of the home video. Back in the fifties,
we had Super eight film for home movies. They were

(09:30):
so specials. No, I know what you mean, Liz, but
you think I feel like it crossed a certain threshold
of accessibility, don't you think in the kind of the
late eighties early nineties, Perhaps Jack, my my mum was
taking a video of our son on my shoulders as
I ran around the clothesline. On replaying it. It was
obvious that my son, who was only four years old,
ended up hitting his noggin on the line as I

(09:51):
ran through it. He looked like he was going to cry,
but then looked up, saw as nanny with the video
camera and gave a priceless grin. So special sese thank
you ninety two ninety two. If you want to send
us a message this morning, Jacket Newsbooks headb dot co
dot nzed is the email address. Kevin Mells with us today, Kevin.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
I loved your piece about the family, the old family videos. Yes,
I've been very much involved with family. I was back
down in christ this week for the funeral of my nephew, Yes,
my nephew. I'm sorry, I have a brain tumor, just
forty three, Jeremy Rathmand. So it was sort of very

(10:31):
matter riki in its way. It's, you know, celebrating memories
of a life.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Yeah, it was yeah, very very special time down there.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Oh I'm really sorry. I know there was always a
sort of strange turn of experiences with these things, isn't it,
Because it is always special when family are together, and
sadly it's those moments sometimes when we are together. But
three is terribly young, So I'm really sorry, Kevin.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Yes, no, it's well. I just hear the Cancer Society
advertisement on just before we came on there, and I think, yes,
it's awful. But Jeremy had a great he had a
great life, and we celebrated that and celebrated each other. Yeah,

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and got down to christ Church again, which is u
was a real bonus.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Always special. Yeah, and speaking of christ Church, you've been
somewhat mystified by something you observed flying back.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
I flew back home yesterday on a christ Church to
Palmerston North plain. There's been such a huge dump of
snow in the south that the Southern Alps has covered
seemingly right down to ground level at the moment. You'll
have noticed that, because when you were on you probably
didn't see it. Coming into Wellington, the weather was perfect.

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The mountains looked sensational, not just the Southern Alps, but
right up through the Cacura Range, absolutely beautiful. Because we
were flying to Palmerston North we were on a smaller plane,
not flying so high. This made the vista even better.
I was mesmerized. Unfortunately I was on the wrong side

(12:14):
of the plane to the mountains. But I saw past
the passengers across the eye across the aisle. Why because
most of them were reading a book or a magazine,
except for the kids next to a window. They stared
out in wonder What is so good about a book
or a mag that distracts passengers from gazing at the

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incredible images. Tourists from all over the world come to
the Zeeland to sea. It's not like the mountains are
covered in snow and the sky's perfectly blue every time
they catch a flight. Yesterday, it was a sensational day
for flying. I admit to being a little bit obsessed
a staring out plane windows. It drives me nuts when

(12:59):
I'm flying over interesting territories like Russia, Ukraine, Poland Germany
and you get dirty look because you're the only one
that doesn't have the shade down on your window. Everyone
else is trying to get some sleep, and I'm sitting
there with a map on the phone, trying to identify
major landmarks on the basis that I may never see

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them again. But none of those views over Europe are
more dramatic than over New Zealand Southern Alps after a
massive snowstorm, especially flying lower on a smaller plane. Jack,
everyone can do.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
What they like.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
Of course, I just don't get why people aren't staring
out the window transfixed desion.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
That is such a good point, Kevin, and I think
there are a couple of critical elements in your experience.
Number One, you hit the nail on the head. Small plane,
So because if you're at thirty thousand feet as opposed
to those eighty rs when they fly it maybe twenty
or fifteen or something like that, not nearly as high, right,

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so it's much more sort of intimate. It comes when
it comes to the mountains. But also the route, because
you were flying from east coast to west coast. I
wonder if you've got a slightly if the flight path
took you slightly closer to the southern Alps than you know,
even if you were flying christ Church to Napier or
something like that, you wouldn't have had you wouldn't have

(14:24):
anything like it, right, But because you were flying east
coast to West coast, you probably had the best the
best shot at getting a really good glimpse of the
Alps and being on a small plane. Yeah, because they're
just they're just I think there are any jets aren't
they that going to Queenstown? So I'm just thinking about this.
Only jets to go into Queenstown. So if you're going
to be on a small plane, the best chance you
probably have is christ Church to Palms North to get

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a rially good view of the Alps. I reckon your nailed.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Yeah, or christ Church into Wellington. Some of those smaller
plans do go and to going to Wellington christ Chips
as well.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yes, but you're going slightly for the west, aren't you
for PARMI well, yeah, you know, yeah, I mean, how amazing. Yeah,
I'm with you for something like that. I rem remember
many years ago flying over the Andes in South America
and having the same experience and just thinking like, why
is no one looking out the window right now? He
is the most extraordinary stuff And it's amazing. How you

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can you know, I suppose just in this one day
and age, when we've got lots of things competing for attention,
people kind of take it for granted a bit totally.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
It is a funny old thing, but I mean it's yes,
yesterday was one great day for flying, you know, yeah,
And I almost felt that's definitely happened. Grabbing them grabbing
the microphone and saying, excuse me, but if some of you,
if you look out the window, you may see some
of the most remarkable search you'll see in your life.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, yeah, that book. Here you go. Apparently I'm wrong
that there are eighty hors that go into Queenstown, says James.
He's in Queenstown, so he knows. Apparently the christ hitch
to Queenstown is the ATR, so that would be a
pretty good, pretty good view as well. Hey, thank you
so much, Kevin. I'm glad you got home safely. And
and again I'm really sorry to hear about Jeremy and Jack.

(16:09):
I agree with Kevin this morning. I recently flew with
my four granddaughters from Auckland to Napier and four year
old granddaughter from Auckland Napier. She looked out the window
the whole flight and announced to the plane every time
we went in and out of a cloud. She was transfixed,
says Catherine, a cloud cloud. Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
Jack.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
There's something that always tackles me about looking back at
old photos and seeing a family member standing in the
corner with a big old black camcorder on their shoulder.
One eye into the eyepiece as though they were filming
a Spielberg blockbuster. So good ninety ninety two. If you
want to send us a message, I'll get to more
of your messages very shortly. Jacket Newstalks headb dot co

(16:49):
dot NZ. We'll look at that Warriors performance from last night,
pretty emphatic over the Tigers, plus the World Cup semi
finalist starting to take shape our sportos here in a
couple of minutes twenty six past nine on Newstalk's He'd be.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Getting your weekend started.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
It's Saturday morning with Jack Team on News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
I think if your messages this morning, Jack bitch shock
to hear that Parmeston North has moved to the West coast.
Has it swapened new Plymouth? Come on, It's thirty one
minutes from Palmerston North to Heimatangy Beach on the West coast.
It's certainly more west than east, isn't it? Come on?
Come on? Here's the thing though, of course, Parmeston North
is significantly further east than christ Church. So even though

(17:34):
I'm saying east to west, in fact I think christ
Church is further west. Yeah, christ Church is further west
than New Plymouth because we always think of the North
Island and the South Island as being on kind of
a north south straight axis, but actually it isn't at all.
The North Island is significantly to the east of the
South Island. Anyway, I promise I'm not going to spend

(17:56):
all morning on the complexities of New Zealand geography this morning,
Jack love flying over the South Island. The braided rivers
fascinate me. And maybe this is the best road actually, Yeah,
christ Church to hockey ticker, straight over the Alps. That
could be the best view, for a good best flight path,
for a good view. Twenty nine past nine on Newstalks,
he'd be Andrew savil Our. Sporto is here with us
this morning, and the Spanish have downed the Belgians in

(18:18):
fairly dramatic style zev. The Belgian goalkeeper courtois taken off
in the seventieth minute of the game with injury, only
for his replacement to spill the ball for the Spanish
to tap it in. They'll be heading to the semi finals.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Yeah, good morning, Jack, Yeah, that who plays for United?
I think it does? Eight yeah one all eighty eighth
minute parried away shot I think, but it bobbled around
in front of the goal and then bang the Spanish
were onto it. So I think the Spanish were predicted
pretty much dominate this game. They didn't. Belgium had a

(18:56):
few late chances, but Spain threw to the semi finals
against France. So that's one in the world.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah V two is going to game, Yeah it is.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
And who would bet against world number three Argentina playing
World number four England in the other semi final, so
h of football? Yeah, to fight the fourth best team. Well,
at least the rankings are right. I suppose the four
best teams in the world playing each other in the semifinals.
The Argentinians England take on Norway, which is not a

(19:31):
given given Harland's form and given the Norwegians form tomorrow,
and then Argentina Switzerland. Switzerland have been one of the
surprise packages, haven't they were?

Speaker 3 (19:40):
These I feel like they're still. I feel like they're
the one that the even keen football fans if you
say name the eight teams in the quarterfinals, they can
name seven instantly, and then the eighth team they're like,
hang on, it's another team.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
It's the Swiss.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Swiss yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yeah, and it's hard to name more than one or
two players in their team probably, but love the way
England the playing me. Bellingham is on fire, isn't he?
Bellingham and King the other kids and Gordon. I hadn't
seen too much of Anthony Gordon played, didn't realize he'd
been quite a staff for Newcastle United the last Yeah,
he's off to Barcelona now on some massive transfer fee.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Well not only that, when he was when he announced
he was going to Barcelona. I didn't know this about him,
but until he speaks it speaks very good Spanish and
they were like, what, how can you speak Spanish? He's like,
I've always trained to play for Barcelona.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Playing football, right, so why.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Not is a self belief? You'd love to see it.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Yeah. The Norwegians very solid football team. And then I
mean Harlan's couple of hands goals the other day, one
of them that he just stood there. I think the
players all around him just stood an oar and he
smacked it. Unto the celebrated, it was just one of
it was just out of this world.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
So yeah, okay, So Warrior's performance last night impresses over
the Tigers and Testay in the Capitol today. Of course, five.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Better second half from the Warriors last night. The first
half was okay, fourteen six up. Then they put the
Tigers away thirty two six. These are the teams the
Warriors have to put away. The Tigers are I think
twelve on the table. The Warriors retained second a couple
of points here. I thought that the attack looked really
menacing and ominous in the latter stages of the second half.

(21:28):
And once again another young gun for the Warriors, Jacob Layman,
coming to the four, and it just goes to show
again the youth program that they've got at the Warriors
clearly bearing fruit this year with several of those names
coming through. They've had a lot of injuries the Warriors,
and yet those young talented kids have come through and

(21:50):
they've stood tall. So that's been I think that's been
the biggest positive for me with the Warriors this year,
is that the players have come through the under fifteen,
under seventeen, under nineteen's teams. They're really playing well and
they don't look out of place in first great and
that's that's that's the key to the Warriors don't have

(22:10):
to keep relying on Australians. When they've got that sort
of talent coming through the systems, it's good to see.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
What they're doing in WELLI well, it's not quite as
wet as it was yesterday. Yesterday I was pretty wet
and cold. I wouldn't describe it as tropical. It's not Fiji.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yeah, I think that the rain is supposed to stay
away and it's not going to be that windy, but
it's going to be cold, I think tonight. So and
it's a five o'clock kickoff, let's not forget, which is
a great family time. So the game will be over
by seven. That's if the TMO doesn't try to intervene
every two minutes like they did in christ Church, which

(22:48):
has to stop. I didn't realize rugby now every try
has to be confirmed, but it seems that way. Although
for the All Blacks are probably lucky because last week
the TMO missed that minute knock on the reffree saw
it on the big screen and then they review again,
so they've going to get stuff like that right. Changes

(23:11):
and tweaks to the All Blacks to most of the combinations,
which is interesting, doesn't feel like massive change, but they've
made some tweaks to the locking pier, the front row,
the loose forwards. Apart from nine to ten. There's changes
across the park, but changes that feel right. Changes where

(23:32):
the players have been given opportunities tonight and are playing
Italy and this All Black team. If they play anywhere
like they did last week, with the pace they played
at last week, I think the Italians could be in
for a bit of a hiding. So hopefully the weather
holds firm and stays relatively clear and the All Blacks
can play this fast approach game, which it did work

(23:56):
to a large degree last week, but it needs fine
tuning tonight. The defense needs to be better. They've had
another week together. The All Blacks are expecting to be
better tonight.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah. I just saw Elliott Smith in the office. He's
already you know, on the on the herbal teas and
warming up for this evening. He'll have the call of
course for news talks EDB live from the cake Tin
for kickoff at five B in the All Backs vers
Italy and their second test of twenty twenty six tonight.
Thank you very much, Andrew, We will catch you again soon.
Got your film picked for the weekend in a couple
of minutes twenty five to ten on Newstalks EDB.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Saturday Morning with Jack Tame Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio
powered by News Talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Twenty two to ten on News Talks EDB. Time to
catch up with our film review of Francesca Rudkin. Who
is with us this morning? Call to Franjasca. Hey, two
films you very well, thank you, two films for the weekend.
We'll get onto the one for the kids in a
couple of minutes. Well, and it demands what your kids
are into, I suppose. But let's have a listen. First
of all, to Evil Dead burn, where's the wedding ring?

Speaker 7 (24:58):
Alice?

Speaker 8 (24:58):
You and his wife? Why aren't you wearing it? I'm
not sure I did not all. I really think we
should do this another time.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
No one, Now, it's the best time we was walking
down and as remember remember, Okay, so this is the
sixth installment in the Evil Dead series, and yeah, this
is probably not the one to entertain the kids these holidays.

Speaker 9 (25:31):
No, and I'm going to be really honest with you, Jack,
you wouldn't make it through.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
No one surprised, bland Tsket, No one surprised.

Speaker 9 (25:39):
Probably I probably only just made it through and literally
rolled out of the cinema after seeing this, just kind
of both slightly in shock and laughing at the same time.
We've spoken about horror films a lot and about that
they're on this rise. They're a great medium for young
directors to play with and create something unique and original

(26:00):
and kind of make their mark. We saw that Worth Obsession,
which I spoke about a while ago, that has now
that was made for a million dollar just in Australia
and New Zealand alone, it's taken twenty five million. It's
probably going to go on to be the biggest.

Speaker 10 (26:12):
Horror of the decade.

Speaker 9 (26:13):
Evil Dead began in nineteen eighty one Sam Rami Raimi
released the first film, and they became they're sort of
cult classics since then, and they've been consistently good. This
one's a bit of a standalone story, and I'm actually
not sure how fans of horrors like that Room Session

(26:34):
could really handle this because it is full on. It
is exhausting, It is nasty, it is savage, it is terrifying,
it is gory, it is bloody.

Speaker 10 (26:44):
You know, it's just.

Speaker 9 (26:45):
Full on carnage from demonic possession. Sort of taken to
the next level, but highly entertaining along the way.

Speaker 6 (26:52):
Shot in New.

Speaker 9 (26:53):
Zealand, produced by Rab Rob Tappitt and Sam Raimi, and
they know New Zealand have great crews, but they also
know that New Zealand has great casts, so they have
cast Tan right Lit see under Cannon, Eryl Shand and
the lead roles. And they are absolutely fantastic because a
dysfunctional family trying to grieve the loss of a family member,

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but at the same time one of the members just
happens to be They're all grieving at a remote country
house and things rapidly descended to chaos is one family
member is transferred into one of the dead eyed. He
is possessed by this demon and and.

Speaker 7 (27:29):
Off we go.

Speaker 9 (27:32):
If you love the previous films, you're gonna absolutely love this.
And if you've never tried one, give it a whirl.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah great, what could go wrong?

Speaker 9 (27:43):
They did had a good job of us because they're trying,
they're trying to give the They're trying, the characters are
quite complex, the situation is quite emotional, and then they
just row in all this horror and gore an action
on top of it so that there's done a really
nice job of it.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Very good.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Okay, so that's evil dead burn that showing in cinemas
right now. Now for something completely different, perfectly time for
the school holidays, is Moana.

Speaker 10 (28:09):
Shape Shifter.

Speaker 11 (28:11):
You stare the heart of Tiffy and curse the whole world.
If you festore the heart, you'd be everyone's hero.

Speaker 12 (28:22):
Was so amazing.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Look at the definition as girls.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
It's true, I do it fautiful here.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Okay. This is a live action musical adaptation of Disney's
twenty sixteen animated adventure. I coudn't believe that it's ten
years since the original. Yeah, but Mowana's back. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (28:41):
And you could probably ask, do we really need another
version of Moana? You know that the animation is very
much loved, so do we really need it? Is this
sort of Disney really just kind of looking for a
little bit of a payday. I think out of all
the animated films, this is one worth remaking into a

(29:01):
live action purely because Mowana is a different character for Disney.
She's really important. She is not a princess. She makes
it really clear to us that she is not a princess.
She's not looking to be saved by a man. She's
not saving a man. This story is all about family
and culture and heritage and leadership and courage, and we
very much relate to it in this part of the world.

(29:24):
A young Ossie Samowen actress Katherine laggaayad steps up. She
is Jay Lugaya's daughter, and Jay has about I think
he's got eight children, Jack and three or four of
them are superstars on the stage. And she is delightful.
She is genuine, funny warm. I loved going this on
adventure with her. She does a beautiful job here. Frankie

(29:45):
Adams is luminescent as her mother. Renna Owen brings the
gravitat and the heart, which she does to every project
she does. So an amazing cast come together here. They're
not trying to reinvent the wheel. This is the story
we all know. As you say, it's got those tunes.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
That we love.

Speaker 9 (30:00):
We go off on this adventure. I suppose it's reintroducing
it to a new audience. There is a lovely chick
called Hey Hey, who does the best physical comedy I've
seen in a long time. I was laughing at loud
think probably more than everybody else, but that might have
been because I'm a parent in the room that's not
dealing with children on holiday.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, enjoy it.

Speaker 13 (30:18):
So I had a ball.

Speaker 9 (30:19):
But no, they've done a really nice job of it.
I think if you're a bit of a fan, you
won't be disappointed to see it again in a different version.
And as I said, I think it holds a special
place in our heart here in the Pacific.

Speaker 7 (30:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
I mean even that when you say that, you know
the chicken's called hey hey, I mean that is obviously
the word for chicken and marby, right, Yeah, yeah, it
sounds really it sounds really good. I mean I know
that the kids in our family will be very very
much looking forward to seeing it. So that is Moana,
the live action musical adaptation of the original animated adventure

(30:51):
that is showing in cinemas at the moment. So too
is Evil Dead Burn. We've got all of the details
for those films up at Newstalks hedb dot co dot
inzed And then after ten o'clock this morning, if you
just cannot be bothered and getting out of your pj's,
getting out of your dressing gown, makee it down the
road to your local cinema. It's okay, this is a
no judgment zone. We've got our screen time picks for
this weekend, though, so we recommend a couple of shows

(31:14):
that you can watch from the comfort of your place
in a couple of minutes. A delicious little recipe that
would accompany that perfectly. We're going a lemon and yogurt
pudding that we're going to share with you quarter to
ten on newstalk Z'B.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Where the weekend finds its rhythm. Saturday Morning with Jack
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Speaker 3 (31:33):
SO, Bruce Tos flicked me a message to say, Jack,
I've got one of those large, big, old video cameras
in its case downstairs. Haven't used it for years and years.
Must get it out and dust it off. I don't know, Bruce.
I mean you could be a little bit of fun,
sort of an antique now, isn't it. Mordener Jack, I've
just returned from three weeks in South America. I too,
was transfixed looking out the window as we flew over

(31:54):
the Andes. By pure luck. We were in Argentina watching
football with the locals when they won over Cape verd
and then in Rio watching with the locals as Brazil lost.
Oh that would have been an experience such walker celebrations
followed by absolute shock as Brazil were outplayed. But a
once in a lifetime opportunity to be standing in the
streets with limited Spanish or Portuguese but still able to

(32:16):
connect and celebrate or commiserate with the local sitis law.
It sounds amazing or what an experience? Ninety two ninety two.
If you want to flick a message this morning, our
cook Nikki Wix is here with a little Matariki weekend
special for us, kind of Nikki.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Cura, Yes I have.

Speaker 14 (32:32):
It just seems as though lemons are everywhere across the
country at the moment.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
They are everywhere, Yeah, and honestly, like yeah, you never
want them to go away. But also anything you can
do to soak up a few is nevers never unwelcome advice.

Speaker 15 (32:47):
I love a little citrusy dessert because you know, it
just sort of always feels fresh and delicious rather than
sickly and sweet, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Yep?

Speaker 14 (32:57):
And look I made one. I made a lemon pudding
for you. Well, I made the sort of lemony cake
thing and do you know what I was sucked in
by Ai, I had. I sometimes with scrolling through Facebook
or whatever, if something looks good, I keep a little
file and I throw it off there and so that
one day I might look at it.

Speaker 15 (33:12):
So there was this beautiful little video of this gorgeous
looking cake that was a bit spongy on the outside
and kind of creamy on the inside, and I dragged it.

Speaker 14 (33:22):
Up and I decided to write or make it. So
I made it without reading the comments. First mistake, and
it was a complete fail. I mean it was solid
all the way through, even when I was making it,
and I was like, cornflower and flower and.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
This sort of dessert.

Speaker 14 (33:35):
This is WEIRDA da da da da, complete fail. Thought
maybe I'd done something wrong. Then I looked at the
comments and I realized it had been generated by AI,
this cake and even the little video. So the comments,
you know, everyone's saying doesn't work, et cetera, et cetera.
And what you would repeatedly get was, oh, baking can

(33:56):
be tricky.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Have you tried?

Speaker 14 (33:58):
At first, I thought that person responsive about their bad recipe.

Speaker 16 (34:04):
But then I came across a comment.

Speaker 14 (34:05):
That said I haven't tried this yet, and then the
author AI said me, neither.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Let me know if you'd oh my god, yeah right,
well exactly so one complete way.

Speaker 14 (34:19):
So the one I have for you this morning is
tried and true by Moir and my mother. And it's
a lemon and yogurt pudding. And look, this is a
variation of the old lemon Delicious pudding. And you're honestly
you can't go wrong with it. I promise you it's
going to turn out exactly as I have written it.

Speaker 11 (34:37):
Look, here's what we do.

Speaker 14 (34:38):
Preheat the oven to one hundred and sixty degrees saltiers.
I tend to make this in little ramikins, but you
could make it in one larger ceramic dishes if you like.
And this makes four ramikins. Sort of grease those quite
liberally with butter, and then what you want to do
is cream butter and sugar together. At this time of
the years, it's important to get that butter nice and soft.
So two tablespoons of butter, half a cup of sugar,

(35:00):
and just cream that together, and then stir in the
zest from one lemon and also the lemon juice, and
that'll curdle it a little bit, but don't worry about that.
Add two tablespoons of two each tablespoons of plain flour.
And then you've got two eggs and you've separated those,
so you want to add the yolks to this mixture

(35:20):
and mix that all together, and then add one and
a quarter of cups of plain yogurt. And this is
a variation of the original Old Lemon Delicious pudding, but
this gives it a beautiful tang. It's absolutely lovely with
the yogurt. And I quite often make this recipe jack
if I'm using up some old yogurt, by which i

(35:41):
mean sort of the end of my big thing of yogat,
and I'm starting to get worried about having it fresh
on breakfast. And then you whip the egg whites together
until they're nice and stiff, and fold that through the
other batter. Pour the mixture into your little dishes and
place those in a roasting dish. And here's the key.
We're then going to form a water bath. So you
just pour some boiling water around them into the roasting dish,

(36:04):
so the level comes about half way up the ramikans,
and then you're going to bake it for thirty to
thirty five minutes. If you're doing one large pudding. It's
probably more like fifty or sixty. And we've got a
low love and temperature and we've got this beautiful water bath.

Speaker 15 (36:18):
So this is a gentle way of cooking. And what happens.
You want to cook it until it's golden and crunchy
on top. It'll have a sponge layer and then some
beautiful custody like sort of lemon go at the bottom.

Speaker 10 (36:30):
You can eat it warm or coal. Definitely have it.

Speaker 15 (36:32):
With some whipped cream and it's absolutely beautiful and it
will not disappoint you.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
It sounds amazing. It sounds and like we say, just
but there's something about their combination. I have the lemon
and the yogurt that it gives it a kind of
gives it a lightness. But still yeah, yeah, no, it sounds.
It sounds incresolutely beautiful.

Speaker 14 (36:50):
Yeah, very very nice and a good way to get
rid of well, only one lemon in this, put in
this in this state.

Speaker 10 (36:55):
You know that's enough.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
That's enough, you know what, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, there
are plenty of other options, but you know we do,
a diversity of ideas is always appreciated. Anything that ends
up and you recommending a dessert as always a popular
option with me Nikki, as you well know. Yeah, made
mataki and we will see you again very soon. We'll

(37:18):
make sure that recipe, of course, is up at newstalkshedb
dot co dot nz. Deans is Jack great, You're hearing great,
You're getting such keen enjoyment out of your family's home videos.
Preserve the memories. That's all that's left you is. Paul
Simon famously wrote, I've got to tell you about my
my little encounter with Narene Ramodi. I make that it
sounds sinister when I say that it wasn't really an

(37:39):
encounter whatsoever. It was a positive experience, and I can
assure you that Narene Ramodi would not be remembering me.
But I've got to tell you about that very shortly.
Right now, it is just coming up to six minutes
to ten you with Jack Tame at Saturday Morning, and
this of course is Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 3 (38:08):
Tell you what the old contrasting emotions in the football
World Cup really are a thing to behold. So I've
just been looking at some of the replays this morning
of the goals in the Belgium Spain game. This is
the quarter finals, Spain winning two to one, but they
were won all for the majority of the game. When
after seventy one minutes I think the Belgian number one keeper,

(38:32):
widely considered one of the best in the world, went
off with an injury. He was replaced by the guy
who is Manchester United's goalkeeper, sen Lamon's. He came on,
the Spanish took a shot at goal, he spilled it
in front of him, and a Spanish attacker managed to
get there before he did tapped it into the back
of the net. So this one guy will no doubt

(38:55):
feel not entirely responsible, but feel largely responsible for Belgium
being knocked out of the Football World Cup. It just
must be such a hard thing to shold, especially when
you were such an elite. Right after ten o'clock on
Newstalks EDB, We've got your screen time picks our feature interview.
Can we broadcast a Laura McGoldrick, who's just returned from
the T twenty World Cup. News is next on News

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Speaker 1 (39:18):
Your weekend starts right here Saturday morning with Jack Tame
on News Talks.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
More Inkoto. Good morning, Welcome to News Talks ed B.
Jack Tame with you through the midday today. This method
of key weekend broadcasting life from the Capitol today too,
which is a bit of a treat to be in
town at the same time as the absold there early
kick off this evening. Speaking of Rugby League, International Cricket, Olympics,
Super Rugby ACC does game of two halves you name it.

(40:10):
Laura McGoldrick is there as one of our best known broadcasters.
She has had an incredible and diverse career on our
screens and airwaves. She just returned from the official ICC
broadcast of the Women's T twenty Cricket World Cup and
Laura is with us this morning. Killed Laura.

Speaker 13 (40:30):
Kelder, how are you?

Speaker 6 (40:31):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (40:32):
I'm so well, thanks and so please to be chatting
with you. So I just want to start with some
really basic questions that our listeners are going to say,
are the questions of someone who has job envy. Okay,
so just let's let's put that to one side for
just a moment. But you've just been at the t
twenty World Cup. And the thing that distinguishes this broadcast

(40:53):
is that this is part of the global ICC International
Cricket Council broadcast, right, rather than simply presenting for a
home audience in New Zealand.

Speaker 10 (41:02):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Yeah, So how does that work?

Speaker 10 (41:07):
So as a part of a a So I worked
for Sky and then I work for the ICC.

Speaker 15 (41:12):
So the governing body employ me and I go over
and I get to work on their worldwide events, which
is pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
How amazing? So, and what's it like being a Kiwi
voice there for an event of that scale.

Speaker 10 (41:25):
Oh, it's it's so great.

Speaker 15 (41:26):
It's so fantastic work with the crew that I do,
So it's not I'm not the only key. We I
work alongside an Smith, Si'madul Katie Martin, and we have
a great time. And we work with people like you know,
Matthew Hayden Cass and I do evening range for Brent
Isha Ga. There's a whole there's a whole range of
people that we work with and it's it's so much fun.
And especially with the women's game, with how far it's
come and how far it's coming, it's a really cool

(41:47):
place to.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Be because you did the men's Tea twenty World Cup
as well earlier this year with the same same names,
the same kiwis, as well as some of the same
international crews. So is it a bit of a kind
of repeat event in that the ICC brings together all
of these great broadcasters from different countries and then sets
you up so you're all kind of working together.

Speaker 15 (42:06):
Yeah, which is like some weird family that catches up
every couple of years, you know, that gets together and
hangs out. It's quite good. Actually, we often joke about
it with it. Let's just functional, functional family, because they
also bring in crew. It's not just commentas and stuff,
it's it's crew as well from around the world. Floor managers, sounds,
camera ops from all over And yeah, it's wonderful to

(42:27):
work with the ic C because they really take care
of you.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, how amazing. So how different is that compared to
I mean, we all know, we all see you on
sky all the time, we hear you on our ear waves.
But how different is that kind of event from a
professional perspective compared to the normal stuff that we would
see you on screen for.

Speaker 10 (42:45):
It's not different, and that you're doing anything different. It's
just that it's you know, more international sometimes, if that
makes sense.

Speaker 15 (42:51):
It's the job itself is the same, remains the same,
but it's just catching up with these these people from
other parts of the globe. You know, the next time
you catch up with them, like where's my guy who
takes care of my sound? You know, when I'm working
with them, he'll have a baby next time. So that's
sort of That's really the main difference I think is
that it's it's people from all over the world, which

(43:12):
is which is very cool.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Do you get a sense of that with the audience
as well, that you are really broadcasting for a global audience,
Not that you aren't when you're broadcasting for New Zealand,
but you know, it's like it really distinguishes these kind
of events.

Speaker 10 (43:25):
Yeah, yeah, I suppose it does.

Speaker 17 (43:27):
It's yeah, the audience is I'm very lucky, you know,
sport is the great fan base that watches all the
sports that I get to work on, So I'm lucky
in that regard.

Speaker 10 (43:38):
But yeah, I think the fans for sure. Yeah, you
definitely get a sense that.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
That it's an international kind of.

Speaker 10 (43:49):
And everyone's there's Laura again talking about God.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice Okay, so take us back a
little bit for anyone who might be wanting to follow
in your footsteps and who does have a little bit
of professional envy. Were you a performing kid?

Speaker 6 (44:06):
Yes? Or Jack?

Speaker 5 (44:07):
Now?

Speaker 10 (44:08):
Look now, look yeah I was.

Speaker 15 (44:10):
I was very much into my performing arts and did
theater and wanted to be on stage. And I don't
know what happened, but that was that. That was certainly
the goal when I was younger.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Like singing and dancing as opposed to and acting.

Speaker 10 (44:23):
As musical theater get in my life.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yeah, anything that involved you being the absolute, unrivaled center
of attention.

Speaker 10 (44:34):
No, I mean, well, so.

Speaker 15 (44:35):
It wasn't a great dancer that My theory was if
I just if I just got the lead, I wouldn't
have to dance. So so whether whether or not that
was right, I'm not sure. But yeah, no, yeah, which
is bizarre because I actually don't like being the center
of peach. I like entertaining people don't ask about me.
That's like, this is all very odd for me. But yeah, yeah,
I guess yeah, center of attention attracts.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah, and so how did you go from being the
performing kid, the somewhat precocious performing kid into broadcasting. How
did you make that step.

Speaker 10 (45:05):
Never which was just delightful? How do I make the change?

Speaker 3 (45:10):
So I'm assuming something there, I mean, yeah, I might
not be wrong anytime I think of a child in
musical theater. And I'm speaking from personal experience here, you'd
be unsurprised to know that I dabbled a little bit
of musical theater. Yes, I think Precocious has sort of
you know, taken as given. But anyway, sorry, how did
you make the step?

Speaker 4 (45:32):
You know?

Speaker 15 (45:32):
I don't know, No, I think it was just timing
and luck I was studying performing arts and.

Speaker 10 (45:40):
I was doing it.

Speaker 15 (45:41):
I was trying to, you know, my job on the
weekends to help put me through performing arts, you know,
doing my degree in performing arts. And I did an
interview with a cricket player and my family's been involved
in sport for a long time. And I did an
interview with Shane Bond and someone at Sky saw it
and rang Bonding and said who is that girl?

Speaker 10 (46:01):
And he said it's my agent's daughter. Do you want
a phone number?

Speaker 15 (46:04):
And they rang and asked if i'd come and do
all and I did and I got the job, and
that was really it.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
It's amazing a how like a relatively small moment like
that can open up like an entire career and an
entire world of experiences.

Speaker 10 (46:21):
Yeah, it's it is.

Speaker 15 (46:22):
I'm very lucky and saying that, I'm not to take
away with how hard I've work because once I realized
how much I loved it, I was like, right here
we go and had to put my head down, bumb
up and really work hard to to do it.

Speaker 10 (46:35):
So, but you know, it's it's crazy.

Speaker 15 (46:39):
I look forward to telling my children that sometimes it's
about right time, right place. Let's talk about how mum
got heard off. So, yeah, it's it is crazy.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
I think it's a combination of those things, you know,
like you need to you'd be crazy to say there
isn't that luck isn't a component, But also you need
to be in a position where if you're given an opportunity,
you can work your butt off in order to make
the very most out of that opportunity. I think both
of those things can be true, and maybe that was
the case for you. Yeah, yeah, so sorry, you did

(47:10):
that interview with Bondie and they said this, this kid's
got talent. Does that mean that you gave up your
performing arts dreams at that point? How did that work?

Speaker 18 (47:19):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (47:19):
Look, maybe I wasn't that good at the performing either.
It would have been a combination of things. But it
certainly went to the went by the way side a
little bit there. And I like the Tiger Woods quote
where he says the hard ROW work, the luckier I get,
and so I yeah, that was very much a thing
for me. But yeah, no, the all performing answer, but
go ahead and give.

Speaker 10 (47:39):
It up on it completely just a little bit. Yeah, no,
the all performing artser just took it took a back seat.
Let's just say that.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, right, but you got this opportunity. The point is
that you got the opportunity and you immediately ran with it.
You didn't try and defer and say, you know, i'm
i'm I've got an important role in any gets your
gun in eight months time, so we can talk after that.

Speaker 10 (48:01):
Yeah, No, it was like that. It was well, it
was like that, yes.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sport did you did you know a
lot about it? Was it something that interests you? Obviously
you mentioned you you know, you had your mum there
who had some connections to the sporting world. But was
it something that had taken you at that point in life.

Speaker 10 (48:19):
Yeah, well my dad did too.

Speaker 15 (48:20):
My dad ran Jade Stadium down in christ Church and
so we had a lot of time in family time
at sporting events, so going to the rugby on Friday
and Saturday night. And you know, I always loved sport.
My brothers were very good cricketers. I would tell you
I was okay, but I was not. So yeah, we
as a family love sport and that was what we did.

(48:40):
You know, we'd go and play tennis or of backyard cricket,
you know, those sorts of things. So I certainly loved
it and then learn more about it as I went.
And I think also with mum's role as a player,
agent and manager, I learned a lot about you know
that the people themselves, not just the athletics. That makes sense,
and I found out, you know, and so I really
try to bring an element of empathy as a consequence

(49:03):
to the role that I do, because you know, they
are just people as well.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
That's interesting. Yeah, yeah, So do you think that they're
is sometimes lacking from sports broadcasting.

Speaker 15 (49:15):
No, I don't know if it's lay from sports broadcasting,
but I think sometimes as fans, we have this expectation
of these people and we forget that they are just people. Yeah,
they are athletes, they do amazing things, but they are
also a son, a daughter, a dad and mum, whatever
it might be.

Speaker 10 (49:29):
You know, I think sometimes we forget that.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Yeah, that's it. Yeah, And being able to have that,
I guess you kind of like there's all the stuff
that happens off camera, a like all of their kind
of you know, unstructured interactions and things that you inevitably
have when you're broadcasting from different sporting events that give
you a greater insight into the kind of pressures that
athletes might face.

Speaker 6 (49:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (49:52):
Absolutely, I also married one, which sort of helps as well.
So yeah, yeah, very much.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
So you you and Martin gupdel Garfi met in the
green room, is that right?

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (50:03):
It was love for Yes, we did meet in the
green room. That the guy.

Speaker 15 (50:07):
It was my second day hosting the Cricket Show, and
and that was that.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
So fair to say that the empathy was burning strong
that day.

Speaker 10 (50:17):
Oh plenty of empathy that day.

Speaker 18 (50:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (50:18):
Yeah. He was just the kindest, most beautiful man I've
ever had.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
And that was that.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Yeah, And what what has being married to Guppy and
being in a relationship with Guppy, what has having that
kind of deeply personal insight into the pressures of professional
sport in the world of professional sport, how has that
enriched you and your performance in your in your day job, Like,
how do how does that help you to be a

(50:47):
better broadcaster?

Speaker 15 (50:50):
Again, I think it's that empathy and also that understanding
of what goes on behind the scenes is not just
what we see, and there's the you know, the extra
the extras that people do and to get to where.

Speaker 10 (50:59):
They are, And.

Speaker 15 (51:02):
Yeah, I think it just yeah, empathy is probably the
best way I think of to describe it. But yeah,
it just allows me allows me to really be cognitive
of the extra ya at Miles that these people have
had to go through to get to where they are.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Yeah, I can imagine there are a lot of dudes
on the dance floor when you started, right, there are
a lot of what dudes on the dance floor.

Speaker 15 (51:28):
Yeah, it's certainly at Mission moishere in Wellington. But what
do you mean you meaning in.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Terms of I mean it was a male dominated world, Laura.
I can only imagine that sports broadcasting, especially when you started,
was a male dominated world. And my sense as a
viewer and fan is that that has shifted meaningfully shifted.
Maybe hasn't gone quite as far as it as it
could or should or whatever, but it's shifted. But what's
been your experience of that.

Speaker 10 (51:54):
It's definitely shifted.

Speaker 15 (51:55):
And my experience of it is it's been it's been
hard work in a lot of ways. But also I've
work with some fantastic men who have taken really good
care of me. So I'd been very lucky in that regard.
And I don't take that for granted, but there's definitely
a shift, no, for sure. And then I go over
you know, overseas and work on the Woman's World Cup
and it's majority women, and you know, there's so it's

(52:18):
so great.

Speaker 10 (52:18):
It's so great to see.

Speaker 15 (52:19):
And I feel, particularly with the Woman's World Cup having
a daughter and I have a son as well, but
particularly for her, I'm like, yeah, this is this is
this is cool because all these women are moms as well,
but here we are on the world stage and you know,
you can you can do this too.

Speaker 10 (52:33):
It's it's very it's very cool. It's very cool to
be have been a part of.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Yeah, it's like, so would you like, what what advice
would you give your daughter, if she wanted to follow
in your food step.

Speaker 10 (52:44):
Don't do it.

Speaker 15 (52:45):
No, I would say, well, you got to love it,
and if and as long as she loves.

Speaker 10 (52:51):
It and she's happy, that's that's all that matters to me.
But it's also just.

Speaker 15 (52:54):
A whole learning to hold your own as a bit
of a skill on this industry.

Speaker 10 (52:58):
And as you'll know, Jack, even if it man, you've
got to learn to.

Speaker 15 (53:00):
Hold your own and be comfortable who you are, and
that will be that will bring out the beast in
you on the professional stage.

Speaker 10 (53:08):
So I don't know, God, I hope you didn't do it. No,
I hear, just go for it.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
Go.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
So you've been in the game for a week while
now we don't need to get into yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's right. But the world of entertainment has changed massively
in those twenty one years. I mean, Facebook didn't exist,
I think when you were first interviewing Bondie and then
getting the call from Sky and there are so many

(53:35):
different entertainment options that are kind of competing for people's
attention these days. The business models have all changed. I mean,
the mere fact that the ICC, for example, has this
kind of international in house broadcast team. Bringing the T
twenty World Cup to different broadcasters around the world is
interesting in itself. But where do you see sports entertainment

(53:55):
as a business going in the coming years and do
you feel kind of optimistic about it?

Speaker 6 (54:00):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (54:01):
Very much.

Speaker 15 (54:01):
And I don't think sport's going anywhere. It's the freest
entertainment you can get. And I think one of the
things I love about is that I can turn off
on any given day and I have absolutely no idea
what's going to happen, and neither do you as the viewer.
So that's what makes it very exciting. I think that's
what keeps my like the entertainment sort of acting drama
kind of thing, because there is going to be someone's
going to make someone's It's going to go really well
for someone it's going to be really poorly for someone else.

(54:23):
You know, I don't think sport's obviously not going anywhere.
You look at that Football World Cup and what an extraordinary,
extraordinary event that has been fans, the amount of money
that that must have brought in.

Speaker 10 (54:34):
No, I think sport's in a good space.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Okay, finally, then give us your most joyous sporting experience
that the most joyful thing you've seen in person. And
your biggest sporting heartbreak.

Speaker 10 (54:48):
Oh, that's a very tough question.

Speaker 15 (54:50):
The biggest sporting heartbreak would have to be the twenty
nineteen Cricket World Cup.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
I you were going to say that I won't let
it go, Jack, I won't. None of us are letting
it go.

Speaker 6 (55:01):
Don't worry.

Speaker 10 (55:01):
I can't let it go, Jack. It's really up to thing.

Speaker 15 (55:04):
No, that was probably the biggest heartbreak because it made
no sense on the ground or otherwise.

Speaker 10 (55:08):
You know, it's just it made literally no sense.

Speaker 15 (55:11):
But one of my and I don't want to stick
to just cricket because there's been some great Oh actually, okay,
so this is the tie I'm going to give you.

Speaker 10 (55:17):
I've got a tie.

Speaker 15 (55:18):
One of them was a game against the Newcastle Knights
and it was almost one of Shawn Johnson's last games
at home the Warriors in twenty twenty three to get
us through to the prelim final. That was a spectacular
That was a spectacular sporting moment that I loved. And
the other one will be the twenty fifteen semi final
again South Africa at Eden Park where Brenda mcculln just
went ballistic and Grand Elliott hit that six to.

Speaker 10 (55:40):
Get us through the file that we've never been in.

Speaker 15 (55:42):
So I've been floor man, I've been blessed with some
great sporting moments that I've been around.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Yeah. Oh well, well, here's hoping that you get to
enjoy many, many more and I'm sure you will. Thank
you so much for giving us your time, Laura, congratulations
on twenty World Cup, welcome back home, and thank you.
I really appreciate you. It's nice, all right, appreciating you.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
By that's Laura McGoldrick. You know, of course, from basically
every sporting event ever on our screens, has had an
extraordinary career so far and just returned from the latest
edition of the ICCT twenty World Cup. Now before eleven
o'clock on Newstalk's EDB, we're in the garden. The things
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(56:22):
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our resident GP is in looking at carpal tunnel syndrome.
This week right now is twenty three past ten.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
The best way to start your weekend Saturday Morning with
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Speaker 3 (56:43):
Twenty six past ten on newstalk's edb Car Pushment is
our screen time expert. This time every week he picks
a couple of shows to recommend for watching or streaming
at your place. Good morning, Carl, Jack Cloe. Let's begin
this morning with the show streaming on TV and Z
plus James May's shed load of ideas.

Speaker 19 (57:02):
These of course, remember James May as part of that
core top Gear trio.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
He had a more.

Speaker 19 (57:07):
Considered approach compared to Jimmy Clarkson in his exaggerated borishness
or Richard Hammond's sort of excitable enthusiasm. And you know,
since splitting Hammond went off and started a podcast. Clarkson
somehow turned Farming into brilliantly entertaining TV, which we spoke
about maybe a month ago. And James May's sort of
been potting around putting out small shows based around his

(57:28):
interests and that's what this is. It's a lot smaller
in scale than something like top Gear or even Clarkson's farm,
and it's basically just taking that challenge aspect of top
gear and stretching it out for you know, forty five
minutes an hour for the show. He's replicating the format
a little bit. He's teamed up with two mates, but

(57:48):
he's very much the star of the show. And having watched,
I can't even tell you what those guys' names are,
but they do have various shed based abilities to tackle
the small problems. The idea is that solving the big
problems of the modern age and of course, in typical
top gear fashion, these very small annoyances that are being
completely overblown. So you know, it's triped me as a

(58:10):
kind of fellow that would ever leave his car park
for longer than one hour if you've paid for one
hour's parking.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
No, I don't think I would you have.

Speaker 19 (58:18):
A responsible chap. On the other hand, I've had my
fair share of parking tickets, So they're solving the problem
of getting a parking ticket in the ten minute grace period,
which in the UK is actually law. You're allowed to
have ten minutes after your designated time to get back
to your car and move it. So you know, in
top gear style, they go completely overboard with this thing.
They construct this wooden tribuchet that's attached to the top

(58:39):
of the car. It's got senses, loud speakers, all sorts
of crazy contraption inventions going on, and that's sort of
the gist of the show. They do a couple of
other things. They fix an antique clockwork boat. They find
a way to make homemade chips using an air cannon
in a tennis racket, so you know, it's that kind
of harmless, blokey japery, So you know, if you have

(59:03):
to buy into it, because it's you know, quite ridiculous. Obviously,
when the warden comes in at the end of the
show for the big climate to see if this thing
actually works, it's clearly fake. And you know top gear
sometimes would sort of fudge reality a little bit, and
the same thing's happened here. But it's a relaxing watch,
you know, if you're just like watching guys tinkering around
fixing clockwork boats or constructing tribuchets. You know, Yeah, he's

(59:26):
got like that nice gentle humor, right, I think.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
It's I mean, it's just a bit of it's a
bit of you know, breezy entertainment. But it is quite
fun some of the creative ideas they come up with,
you know, it just it's good, it's clever.

Speaker 19 (59:38):
That's that's the main thing is like just watching this thing,
like coming out with the idea of like how do
we make homemade chips better? Oh, let's get an air cannon.
You know, it's ridiculous, but it's fun to see them
trying to make it work. And then then it works.
They go to the pub, they cook them up and
they eat them grass. And also it's quite funny.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
No nice, Okay, cool. So that's James May's shed load
of ideas. It's on TV and Z plus on neon
make that movie.

Speaker 19 (01:00:04):
Now. This is a mockumentary spoo of makeup a TV
shows like you know those Renault shows where they burst
into someone's house and renovate their kitchen in twenty four hours,
except here they're turning ordinary people's movie ideas into feature
films in just three days.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Now.

Speaker 19 (01:00:20):
It is mockumentary. Everything is scripted. There's no real people
with a real movie idea that's being made here. I
just have to make that very clear in case of
any confusion. But it shows from Ozzie comedian Sam Campbell,
who you might recognize. He's doing really well in the
UK at the moment. He's on that sort of comedian
TV circuit, so he's popped up on Task Master and

(01:00:40):
Last One Laughing, and you know, they sort of keep
cycling the same people around and he's gotten to that loop,
so you probably do recognize them. But he's also because
he's a strand and he pops up in New Zealand
shows quite often as well, like The Very Good End
Zed Spy which is on TVNZ and Guy Montgomery's spelling
B So chance if you don't know the name, chances
are you probably do recognize them. And he always has
a baffled look on his face and that plays into

(01:01:03):
his comedy style of absurdism with deadpan delivery. And that's
what the show is. It's like, are you a fan
of cult movies and B movies and bad movies?

Speaker 6 (01:01:12):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Yeah, yeah, I mean to a certain degree, yes, and
I mean like the worse the better. I was going
to say the bader the better, but yes, yeah, So
it's very.

Speaker 19 (01:01:22):
Much if you like that kind of thing, I think
you'll like the show because they are making these movies
as they're an eleeked filmmaking team, which you know, that's
the jargon, and they're making these movies which is just
almost like a love letter homage to that B movie
cult film that is terrible. Like one of the movies
they make is about a couple that can turn into snakes,

(01:01:42):
but one can only ever be a human and one
can only ever be a snake. They can't both be
human or snake at the same time. And then that
gets involved with a big spy plot, so it's ridiculous.
When you see the movie, it's a chase scene and
they're both transforming like crazy, and it's very funny and
very absurd and very bizarre. I think they could have
pushed the boat out into that bizarre surrealism a little

(01:02:03):
bit further, because I'm a big fan of things like
Antie Donald's Big Old House Is Fun or The Mighty Bush,
which are just completely bonkers. But that skit shows this
is a narrative such a bit more Raindom, but there's
still he still finds plenty of room to do bizarre
non secreteurs and just random random joking styff so and
it's cramming in like a behind the scenes production. Plus
you get to see the finish movie. So there's a

(01:02:24):
lot in its little twenty five minute runtime. But you
do need to like cult films and B films, I
think to get the most out of it.

Speaker 6 (01:02:33):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Okay, cool, So that's make that movie. That's on Neon.
Carl's first pick for us this week, James May's shed
load of ideas all of the details for those of course,
News Talks HEDB dot co dot nz Ford slash Jack.
If you want to get in touch, ninety two ninety
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Speaker 7 (01:04:44):
At what point would you be worried before the end
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Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Twenty one to eleven, non news Talks dB You with
Jactaim through to mid day today. Record companies want AI
music to be disclosed, and they've got a whole bunch
of other groups on board as well. Our Textbert Paul
Stenhouse has been looking at the developments and it's with
us this morning, get a.

Speaker 11 (01:05:39):
Paul Good Morning. They want't basically a label on the
cover art. It's almost like that explicit content label.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Yeah, White Morning, things.

Speaker 11 (01:05:50):
Are about to get crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Did those things still exist? Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:05:55):
Yeah, they do.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
The explicit warnings to Yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 11 (01:05:59):
Still see them on I mean, we just don't see
cover art like we used to.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
This is my point, just like yeah, right, okay, yeah, yeah,
I mean I think there are other songs like that.
I mean, you learn this very quickly when you're working
in radio, like you've got to make sure you choose
the radio edit rather than the at home edit, you
know what I mean. And so there are you know,
there are labels on songs that kind of distinguish between
the ones that have explicit lyrics and the ones that don't.

(01:06:22):
But I wondered about that it would cover art anymore,
because cover arts not so much of a thing.

Speaker 11 (01:06:28):
No, So what I mean, they are looking at putting
some into the into the streaming platforms as tags or labels, right,
and actually Spotify already does some of it today they
kind of bary AI usage in song credits, and Apple
Music puts some transparency tags in. But these these record
companies and the folks from the Grammys and SAG EFTRA
and the American Association of Independent Music, they all want
these these labels now, and they've designed the little label

(01:06:50):
that they want to put on there, and it's quite nice.
And there's two of them. So one classification they're going
for is AI generated, so that means fully AI generated,
there wasn't a human involved at all.

Speaker 6 (01:07:01):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:07:02):
The second one is AI assisted, and they define that
to mean that it was created primarily by humans, but
that they used AI for some elements. Now I think,
what does some elements mean? And I mean this might
be controversial, Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
But here we go auto auto tune.

Speaker 11 (01:07:20):
Hello, Like, I know it's not asted And if we're
going to be a real purist when it comes to music,
I know, what are we what are our thoughts on?

Speaker 9 (01:07:30):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
Stir the part a little bit? Oh man? That is
actually a very good point. It's very hard to Yeah,
I mean, what what is AI? What is yeah? Exactly
what is computing? I mean it is actually quite tricky
to draw a line in the sand and say, in
a musical context, what isn't isn't powered by a machine
learning at some level?

Speaker 11 (01:07:51):
A yeah, or just generation at some point? I mean,
you know, AI generated. We use sounds that are generated
that are not coming from actual instruments that have been recorded.
So yeah, I just think the line is a little weird.
But I think the other thing that's interesting about all
of this, and I think it's really important when we
talk about video especially and images and text, it's like

(01:08:14):
the onus is on you to basically say AI didn't
partake in this, right, Like, how do we.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Turn that around?

Speaker 11 (01:08:22):
How do we how do we assume that everything is
AI generated? And we have to verify that a human
actually created, actually played the instrument, had a camera actually
at the event, because until we do that, we're just
relying on someone telling us or checking the right box. Yeah,
and we all know how people are at checking boxes
to say no, you're right, there was some AI here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Yeah. That is actually a really really interesting perspective and
and a good point, and one that you sort of
just take for granted, right unless it's unless it's challenged.
I don't know if I rate their chances necessarily. My
problem is that with streaming music, you just kind of
have it on and it'll take you off in a direction.
You kind of don't even notice it's taking you off
in a certain direction, and you're probably listening to songs

(01:09:05):
that have AI component and it's without even realizing it.
But I don't go back and check every song and say, oh, well,
hang on, a second was this, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 11 (01:09:17):
Was just the recording industry ceo. He said his fans
that they said that fans are open to listening to
AI music. So yeah, the research they've done says they're
not against it. They just want to know that it's
AI generated. Maybe it's silly you don't fall in love
with the singer.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Or maybe you don't get or you don't.

Speaker 11 (01:09:32):
Get too excited about seeing them live. In concept, the
gorillas did that, didn't they? What about the troners years ago?
Are they are they AI?

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
I don't know how big. I don't know how to
draw a line. Yeah, yeah, these are the big philosophical question.
Thank you, Paul. Paul Stenhouse textbook with us this morning.
Our resident GP is in in a few minutes time.
He's looking at carpal tunnel syndrome this morning, a surprisingly
common issue that really can have a significant impact on
people's quality of life. So he'll be here very shortly.

(01:10:02):
Sixteen to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Well, you're heading out to start your Saturday Turn of
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Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
On Newstalk zed B.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Fourteen to eleven on Newstalk zed B. Maybe have come
across this in your own life, if not someone close
to you gradually kind of noticing tingling or numbness in
the thumb. Carple tunnel syndrome actually affects surprising numbers of
New Zealanders, and our resident GP doctor Brian Betty is
with us this morning to explain what it is, how

(01:10:32):
it affects us, and what we can do about it.
Morning Brian, Oh, morning, jacking us to be here. Yeah,
nice to be chatting. So talk us through carple Tunnel.
What actually is it and how common is it?

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:10:43):
Look, so it's this condition where one of the nerves
that runs down the arm runs through a small little
bone ligament tunnel in the wrist and it gets it
sort of been largest and gets pressure on that nerve
and that starts to cause symptoms in the hand. So
it's this pressure effect and this leads to this numballess
tingling pain that people sort of describe in the hand
and fingers. Now, look, it's one of the most common

(01:11:06):
nerve impression conditions we see, with about six percent of
adults over a lifetime will actually experience it. And in
streamly enough, it's more common in woman than men. So
women between the ages of forty and sixty are slightly
more at risk of it occurring. It often develops very gradually,
and people start to notice the symptoms at night. Often

(01:11:26):
that's the thing that they see.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Yeah, that's interesting that that's the nighttime rather than when
it's kind of you know, when the wrist is in
maybe high use that people actually notice it. So how
do you recognize it as carpal tunnel?

Speaker 20 (01:11:39):
Yeah, so, look, it's this tingling and numbness that you
see in the hand, and in particular it's the thumb,
index finger, middle finger, and ring finger on the palm
side of the hand. And people come and saying, look,
I woke up at night and my hand was really
tingly and numb and I had to shake it out
to sort of get it going again. And actually, you
do actually get it with repetitive movements. So people who

(01:12:01):
have repetitive jobs and do repetitive things can actually develop
it as well. Now people they actually start to notice,
they start to drop things that got reduced grip in
the hand, and there's difficulty with fine, fine, fine tasks
like buttoning up a close or something like that. Now
we know that women get it more than men. We

(01:12:21):
know that pregnancy is a risk factor diabetes, thyroid conditions,
and people who actually have jobs with repetitive hand movements,
they are often at risk of its occurring.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
And do you have to have some sort of test
to actually confirm it? Yeah, you do.

Speaker 20 (01:12:35):
Look, if you're getting those type of symptoms, see your GP,
see your doctor, and they'll take a pretty good history
and often do a physical examination. So we often bend
the risk over or we tap on the risk to
see if we reproduce the symptoms. Because if you bend
the risk over, you put pressure on the nerve and
often you'll start to see the tingling or the numbness occur. Now,
if we think it is, will refer you off for

(01:12:57):
what's called nerve conduction studies. Now these look at the
speed of the nerve through the risk and if it's reduced,
we know that it's compression of the nerve going on,
and that tell that it's carpal tunnel syndrome.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Interesting, And what do you do about it?

Speaker 20 (01:13:11):
Look, if it's a very mild case, often just wearing
splints at night, because one of the things that happens
at night is your your wrist tends to bend over
and that puts increased pressure on the medium nerve and
it produces a symptom. So we give you a splint
to just straighten the wrist at night, and often that
resolves the symptoms. However, slightly more severe than that, sometimes

(01:13:33):
a steroid injection will give temporary relief. But often what
we do need to do is send you off to
see an orthopedic surgeon and they do a small procedure
where they cut a small ligament in the wrist and
that just relieves the pressure and often the symptoms just
resolve once you do that, and it's pretty well a
permanent fix once it happens.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Yeah, it must give people a lot of relief, especially
if it's keeping the arp at night. It must be
so difficult.

Speaker 20 (01:13:58):
Oh yeah, look it does. They sort of say, oh,
this is great, you know, sort of it. It was
really started to interfere with daily activities and sleeping at night.
And yeah, it is a really really good procedure.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
Very good. Hey, thanks Brian, have a great methodoky weekend,
and we'll catch again very soon, Doctor Brian Betty with us.
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Speaker 7 (01:14:41):
Hey, good morning to you Jack. Did I see you
on New Zealand or Australia that show?

Speaker 5 (01:14:46):
I saw that?

Speaker 7 (01:14:46):
What a couple of days ago?

Speaker 6 (01:14:48):
Well what was it?

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
The you and me and Aussie?

Speaker 7 (01:14:52):
Yeah, that's the one.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:14:54):
And you know what really struck me There wasn't Avondale
spy that that really made that, you know, the whole
system stupid with the people. This is one of the
most gentle spiders in the world.

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:15:09):
Don't even think about.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
It, ah, do you know? I had a question from
the nine year old the other day. So we had
a couple of days up near Tea Point, just north
of Auckland, just for school holidays. We went to the
Tea Point Reptile Park where they've got all sorts of
tortoises and turtles and alligators and things. But they also
have a whole series of tarantulas. And the nine year

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old say to me, you're just allowed to buy a
tarantula in New Zealand. You're just allowed to have tarantulas.
And I didn't really have an answer for him, but
I thought, you know what, rude will have an answer
for him. So are you just allowed to have a tarantula?

Speaker 7 (01:15:45):
No, no, you're not. You have to have a permit
for that, and you've got to be pretty careful with that.
In that case, Yeah, we don't get any new species
becoming established, but I must say, you know, those tarrentialas
are fabulous creatures, by the way, or so many different species. Oh,
I love it anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Well, you would have been very pleased with us. We're up,
but we went too tougher than New course as well.
And just you know the number of bell birds and
kiddy do and you know, incredible peak walker and everything.
It's pretty amaze. We didn't see any taker here this time.
But that is such a beautiful part.

Speaker 7 (01:16:16):
Well, so yeah, on the walk you find a taka
usually on the in the bottom there because.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
I think, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:16:23):
Yeah, I take the teachers there for the Sir Peter
Blake Trust you know, and we we go there for
we go there, of course for a whole week with
these teachers to to do some environmental stuff is.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Great, lovely beautiful anyway, ye, anyway, it's a very very
quick one.

Speaker 7 (01:16:41):
Yes, no, it's this is good. This is good.

Speaker 6 (01:16:43):
This is the case.

Speaker 7 (01:16:45):
Exactly what I do is I prune my asparagus literally,
you know, and get rid of most of the stuff,
and that means that the new materials will come up
again in early spring. That is the way to go
with it. So this is one of the things you
need to do. And by the way, if you do
want to start doing asparagus, now is the time to
get some friable stories soil really high and basically put

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them fifty centimeters apart and away you go. Honestly, anybody
can do that and it works so well. What I've noticed, too, Jack,
is that there's a little trick that I have Egyptian
walking onions you know what they are, I know you do,
and I plant those in between those asparagus, so that
when the asparagus have finally stopped like now, the walking

(01:17:34):
onions are actually there to be literally consumed by us.
And the cool thing is there is no competition between
those vegetables and the walking unions. The walking unions, that's right,
the Egyptian walking anyway, there you go walking. So this, yeah, exactly,
you got it. So this is the good thing to

(01:17:55):
do now to keep something in that particular bed. And
it changes from the asparagus to those unions to those onions.
Sorry onions, What am I talking about? Unions? Here you go,
now right, once that bed is cleared, you know you've
got to be to make sure it's all done. Line
that's coming a bit later in the season from now on,

(01:18:15):
a fresh layer of organic compost and things like that,
and what you then get is a little bit of
nitrofoscar blue for fertilizer. That is basically the way to
go and say there's nothing better than fresh asparagus.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Yeah too, right, Hey, thank you have ago. Wee care
well and we will care seem very soon. The nine
year old, will we please to hear that it's a permit.
It seems reasonable but nothing too complicated. After leaving a
clock on news talks, he'd be we're counting down to
kick off on the all back second Test of twenty
twenty six and Wellington plus Travel correspondent as looking at
a few spots outside of Vancouver. News is next.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Where the weekend finds its rhythm. Saturday Morning with Jack
Dame on Youth Talks, that'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
Yard and you Zella, good morning, welcome to news Talks.
He'd be Jack Tame with you live from the Capitol.
Well less than six hours now from kickoff here at
the caketin this afternoon, the all Blacks and Italy of
course Newstalks are going to have to call live. Elliot Smith.
I've seen in the office already today just counting down
the hours to kick off. This evening going to be
a massive, massive occasion in Wellington. So in the business,

(01:19:44):
in the broadcasting industry, in the news world, they call
them grippin grins. It's when two politicians, usually political leaders,
have a meeting and when they have a formal get together,
they will sometimes invite the media to come in and
film them for literally thirty or forty seconds. So they'll
come in, everyone will come in, they'll film them, shake

(01:20:06):
hands for a quick photo opportunity, and then basically they'll
tell all the media to get out again. That was
my encounter with Naren Tramodi. So I was living in
the States. I was TVNZUS correspondent, and at the time
I was doing a lot of the filming of the
stories myself, so I had my own camera, I had
my own trip on, my own microphones, all that kind
of gear. And John Key came to Washington, d C.

(01:20:28):
For a big conference and when he was Prime Minister
and had a whole series of bilateral meetings with different
world leaders, and you know, some of them were reasonably interesting,
but I think a proper sit down, a formal bilateral
with Narendramody was among the most interesting of his engagements
on that particular trip. So when his staff and the

(01:20:50):
various Ministry of Foreign Affairs staff came to us and said,
would you like to have a spot in there for
the grip and grin, we were very enthusiastic. And it
was one of these things that just required ridiculous logistics
and that I had to turn up to a very
fancy Washington DC hotel about three hours before John Key
and Narendromodi arrived and in order to facilitate the grip

(01:21:11):
and grin, because of all the security concerns that come
with being the Indian Prime Minister and all of the
kind of logistical complications that grossly outweigh the logistical and
security concerns for a New Zealand prime minister. They basically
locked me up in a really really fancy Washington, DC

(01:21:32):
hotel room directly across the road from the White House
for about an hour before we were allowed to go
and film. And they had this sort of setup where
it was almost like a hotel suite. So they had
the journalists locked up in one room and Narendromody, John
Key and their various representatives in the room right next door.

(01:21:52):
So through a little door and you go through, and
I was there with like I don't know, maybe twenty
five different Indian media outlets, So the cameras, the soundy's,
the various journalists and reporters and things. All of them
were men. Because me and all of these, all of
these Indian journalists and we all had to wait in

(01:22:13):
this room for about an hour. Then finally we were
given the signal. We raced and we took the fastest
pictures possible of Narendromody. I think I basically had time
to turn on my camera as we were walking through
the door, get two shots, and then we're immediately hustled
out again so that John Key and Arendromodi can have
this meeting back then, of course, a free trade deal
seemed aspirational to say the least. So I think it's

(01:22:35):
no wonder that this government are, you know, enjoying the
success of what they have achieved on that front. But
just you know, a few seconds in that space with
somewhat of Narendromodi's statue, you get a real sense as to,
you know, the significance of a role like that, being
the leader of the most populous nation on Earth, and

(01:22:57):
the scale of everything, not just that the scale of
your of your voter base, but the scale of the logistics,
the security required when you decide to travel around the world.
So pretty remarkable scenes as Narendra Modi visits various different
businesses and holds various formal meetings today in Auckland before

(01:23:17):
flying out this evening. We're going to keep you up
to speed, of course, throughout the day as his activities
continue throughout the day, a pretty packed scheduled from all accounts,
So yeah, that'll be very interesting. Probably a good thing
actually that he's not in the same city as the
All Blacks are playing tonight, because you can imagine that
would be a bit tricky, if you know, for anyone

(01:23:38):
trying to get around the city, there might be a
few logistical issues with the traffic. For Narendra Modi's motorcade
coming into contact with all blacks fans trying to get
to the game, that could be a bit tricky. But anyway,
like I said, we'll keep you up to speed throughout
the day as he continues his whirlwind tour of New
Zealand and they celebrate signing this free trade agreement before

(01:23:59):
midday on News talks 'b we're going to have a
bit of a listen to Foreign Tongues, which is the
latest album from the I Don't Know Only Rolling Stones
released yesterday. Our music review has been listening. He's picked
out a couple of key tracks that we're going to
play you before twelve o'clock as well as that we're
going to have your book picks for this weekend. Right now,
though it is twelve minutes past eleven, Jack Dams and

(01:24:21):
doctor Libby Libby Weather is with us this morning. Killed Oliby,
it is so good to have you here.

Speaker 13 (01:24:27):
Good morning, Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
It is so good to be speaking with you. And
speaking about something that I think we are only just
kind of getting a good handle on our iron deficiency.
And this is something that affects so many people, right.

Speaker 13 (01:24:42):
It sure does. It's actually the most common nutritional deficiency
in the world. So up to fifty five percent of
women in New Zealand are affected by some degree of
iron deficiency, and the stats are really concerning for children.
So while there are other nutrients that kind of get
trendy on Instagram and get a lot of attention, we're
actually missing this really basic one which is the most
common one.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
Yeah, and it's one of these things where like you
know in my life who have experienced iron deficiency at
times like it can be night and day like they
can just feel totally exhausted and then if their iron's
topped up, all of a sudden, feel like infinitely better.
So it's one trust is parkable. Ah, it truly is.

Speaker 13 (01:25:22):
And we want to bring that to life so that
when you feel really lousy, when you feel fatigue or weakness,
or you notice that your skins become pale, some women
notice shortness of breast or headaches or really heavy periods,
instead of just thinking oh it's stress or part of
a busy life. I really want to encourage women to
go and have their iron tested and find that if
they are deficient, because, as you say, it's night and

(01:25:44):
day with quality of life once your iron is topped up.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
Yeah, yeah, significant. So how easy is it to test
for iron deficiency.

Speaker 13 (01:25:54):
It's so straightforward. Just have a chat with your GP
and what you want to ask for is iron studies
and that's a group of four different tests your serum
iron and then another test called transperen which is a
taxi that iron around in your blood, and then seritine
which is your iron storage. So to think of it
like you're back up that tree and the current the
normal ranges for adult women for ferretin in New Zealand

(01:26:16):
is twenty to two hundred and twenty micrograms per leader,
which is a crazy big range. We need normal ranges
because it'll be chaos without them. But in my clinical experience,
and there's a lot of scientific literature now to show
this as well, that once keratin gets below about fifty
a lot of women have iron deficiency symptoms. So you
want to get your ferretin above.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
Fifty, right, Okay, so you said fifty five percent of
New Zealand women right experience it. Yeah, why is it
so prevalent?

Speaker 13 (01:26:44):
So there's so many different things contributing to it. And
the first thing is too many of us just don't
eat enough iron rich foods across the instruation the years.
We actually need eighteen miligrams per day, and it's hard
enough to eat that when you're kind of a robust eater.
It's really hard to get that amount if you've got

(01:27:05):
some kind of dyeing mentality, or you're skipping meals. For example,
a lot of women they're busy, they just have coffee
for lunch, and coffee isn't Yeah, it's hard to hit
our iron targets when they're skipping meals. For some women
it's because they have really heavy periods, or they might
have gut is shoes that actually interfere with their body's
ability to absorb it well. It can be undiagnosed Celias disease.

(01:27:26):
And of course we've also seen a rise in the
use of GLP one medications that actually interferes with iron
absorption as well as suppressing appetite. Really important for people
who are using those medications to make sure they don't
become iron deficient. It needs to be a focus.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
I didn't know that that's interesting because I mean, you know,
you hear about some of the other side effects, but
I didn't realize that it could interfere with iron absorption.
So yeah, I mean that would be you know, that
would be quite significant, you know, especially if people aren't
eating the same kind of foods that they were previously.
That would that would be quite significant. So what are
the kind of iron rich foods that people can focus on?

(01:28:05):
Is it all just spinage and red meat?

Speaker 13 (01:28:08):
Well, that's a good start, that's a really good start, actually,
So yes, our red meat is a beautiful rich source
of hem iron which is nice and biol available. Then
there's all of our organ meats, you know, so don't
you can make patte very easily in your blender at home. Yeah,
And muscles are another good sauce, sardines, and then some

(01:28:29):
iron in eggs, and then some of our vegetable sauces
which we don't absorb the iron as well from our
plants that needs to be paired with vitamin C. So
there's iron as you're saying, spinach in kale, in lentils,
in seaweed, parsley. But those forms of iron are not
as well absorbed, so it's yeah, pairing that with vitamin sea.

(01:28:50):
So lemon juice squeezed over green leaves will give you
more iron than if you didn't have the lemon juice
over the top of.

Speaker 21 (01:28:55):
That funny okay, yeah, yeah, it's I mean classic, right, like,
eat your leafy greens, but make sure you have at
least another one of your five plus a day and
as well.

Speaker 13 (01:29:07):
Yeah, but also the magic of nature. Obviously some of
those green leafy vegetables do have vitamin C incorporated into them. Yeah,
there is, you know, the magnifistence of nature is sort
of all there. But when we boil our veggies to billio,
then we destroy all of that vitamin.

Speaker 19 (01:29:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
Right, So but this is a key point though, right,
it's not just eating iron rich foods. It's actually making
sure that you're eating the foods that will help you
absorb the iron and those iron rich foods as well,
which is kind of critical.

Speaker 13 (01:29:36):
So it's tricky, Jack because there's all sorts of things
that interfere with iron absorption as well. As we have,
for example, a calcium rich food at the same time
as the iron rich food. The calcium winds and we
miss out on the iron. So no, I know it
can be tricky. So but just even being focused on
eating enough iron rich foods is just a really great
way to go.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
Yeah, okay, So if you are having steak with spinach
with lemon juice over the top, then make sure you
wait a couple of hours before you have two bowls
of ice.

Speaker 13 (01:30:03):
Cream spot on.

Speaker 3 (01:30:05):
Yeah, okay, as all balance? Okay, so what about supplementation?
Are there times when iron supplementation is helpful?

Speaker 13 (01:30:12):
Without doubt? So it can be sometimes for children who
just they might be picky eaters, they're not eating enough
iron rich foods that can be crucial to them. Teenage girls,
there are sadly too many teenage girls who because anxiety
is one of the symptoms of iron deficiency. Obviously, anxiety
can be caused by all sorts of things, but iron
deficiency is one of them. Supplementation is sometimes very important

(01:30:35):
for teenage girls and then women across the menstruation years
who might not be able to eat enough iron rich
foods to hit those targets. And there's an old school
type of iron supplement that a lot of women will
link to constipation and other gut related symptoms. But there's
a new breed of iron supplement out there. I spent
five years full transparency. I spent five years developing one

(01:30:56):
called Iconic Iron, and it's actually contained speritin iron, which
is a very it's a groundbreaking form of iron extracted
from organic peas and it's absorption mechanism is completely different
from all other forms of iron, and it's getting terrific
results for people. As it blows my mind, not just
the blood test improvements, but the improvements that people describe

(01:31:19):
feeling and on their quality of life. So that can
be something to look out for. Iconic Line. It's all
made from food.

Speaker 3 (01:31:26):
Okay, okay, so iconic Iron. So where do we find
out about iconic I go on, let me give us
the primo.

Speaker 13 (01:31:32):
Oh it's very kind, thank you. So at bioblends dot
com and you can read all about Iconicline and it's
a unique absorption mechanism and the effects that's having on
people at bioblends dot com. Yeah, that's really generous.

Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
No, No, I've heard. I've heard, you know, the women
in my life moaning about the other the old school
ones that can kind of make you feel worse than beforehand.
You know, well, you know they can feel make you
feel about blocked up or stuffy or whatever. So yeah,
so a different absorbtion method makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 13 (01:32:01):
Yeah, thank you, it does. And because the trouble with
the old school ones is a lot of women will
say and I would rather be iron decision than constipated,
and so they then live with the irons deficiency, which
obviously has consequences that are not ideal. So if we
want to address it with a gut friendly version.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
Yeah, fantastic, iconic iron. Okay, thank you so much, Livy.
It's so good to chat.

Speaker 13 (01:32:22):
Yes to you as well, Jack, thank you so much
for your lovely question.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
That is Livy Weaver. We'll make sure her recommendations there
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You don't need to worry about it. You can just
go straight to the website. In a couple of minutes,
we're heading to British Columbia with our travel correspondent. He
was looking at some of the some of the inner

(01:33:10):
city attractions in Vancouver last week and I said to
Mike Yardley, I said, well, you haven't mentioned the Capilano
Suspension Bridge, and I'm pleased you haven't because I think
it's overrated. And he said, Jack, Jack, what do you
think I'm going to be talking about next week? I said,
oh no, So Mike Yardley has taken it upon himself.
He's going to try and convince me. He's going to

(01:33:31):
try and get me to change my mind on the
Capillana Suspension Bridge and why it is a good part
of Vancouver to visit. In a couple of minutes, twenty
one past eleven on newstalks 'b Travel.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
With Wendy Wouturs, Where the world is yours for now.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
Mike Yardley is our Travel, corresponding he's got a tough
assignment today, Godo, Mike.

Speaker 4 (01:33:51):
Good morning Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
I'm here to convince yes.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
No, Well, as we always say on Saturday mornings, famously
open minded, Mike, so famously open minded. And you know
I did the maths last week after we spoke. I reckon,
it's more than fifteen years since I was last in Vancouver,
so you know it is fair to say that I
haven't been there anytime recently. And you know, famously open minded.
So there are a stack of day trip options beyond downtown, right,

(01:34:17):
there are all sorts of things to keep you occupied
if you want to leave Vancouver city problem.

Speaker 16 (01:34:23):
This is what I think is the secret to Vancouver's success.
I mean, so many urban treats to devour, but then
you've got so many day tripping options, so go explore.
I mean, as one example, Vancouver Island, which is like
a world into itself. It's just such an easy ride away.
You can grab a faerry, you can take a floatplane,

(01:34:45):
you can go there for the day and get back
for you know, a great dinner in Vancouver. But Lionsgate Bridge,
just north of Stanley Park, I reckon that doubles as
the gateway to the great outdoors in BC.

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
Yeah, okay, it's a yeah, a place that attracts a
lot of people to carry To deal with the carry
on controversy from last week, do you agree that Capilano
is overrated?

Speaker 16 (01:35:13):
Very controversial suggestion, Jack Tame. I would agree that it
is one of Canada's shameless tourist traps. It's one of
the oldest tourist traps. It's been luring travelers since the
eighteen eighties.

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:35:26):
But this is where I perhaps would beg to differ.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
I agree we have a stack.

Speaker 16 (01:35:32):
Of big boys swing bridges New Zealand, absolutely, But where
I think Capelano has the advantage the height and the
length is next to level. So as an example, say
Buller Gorge Swing Bridge, which I love, Capilano is twice
as long and nearly three times higher than the bull

(01:35:54):
of Gorge Swing Bridge.

Speaker 4 (01:35:55):
Wow.

Speaker 16 (01:35:56):
So I reckon, Yeah, I reckon. It just delivers that
sort of floating on air experience as you cruise across it,
and it's slung so high across those cedar scented trees,
the Douglas Firs, you've got the churning waters below.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
So yeah, I think it is pretty hard to beat Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
It is certainly big, it is certainly significant, and the
setting is beautiful. I think the thing that was, you know,
with me with the Capelana suspension is maybe I was
just being a bit snotty and being like, well, you
have to pay to go here. A bit in New
Zealand you can go on the suspension bridge for free,
so maybe maybe this is part of my thing. But
you're right, it is sizable and like this little wonder

(01:36:38):
that so many people take, you know, amazing photos there.
So beyond the bridge, what was the discovery that you
encountered at Cappelana recently?

Speaker 16 (01:36:45):
Yeah, well that said I mean, over the years they
have added to the bridge in terms of various experiences,
like they've got that cliffiage walk, they've got a massive
treetops walk which is so similar to the Redwoods and
Rosa Rua with lots of interconnecting bridges. But what I
love discovering a few weeks ago at Cappelana Jack raptors wretch,

(01:37:08):
so you can get right up close with local birds
of prey. And best of all, if there's just one
reason to go to Capelano, go and meet the great
horned owl. I've never come across this bird before, but
it's this giant night hunter and it's a grand looking bird.
It's face is like a portrait of nobility, and it's

(01:37:30):
got a two meter wingspan and all of its feathers
are really soft edged, so it's like a silent assassin.
It just swoops on it's pray at night without even
a whisper. But it is the most gorgeous, gorgeous bird.
And I just you know, I was just opling as owl.
But quite some time at Capelano.

Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
See, I think I think for me, you know that
the older I get, the twitter I get, I think
for me that in itself is good reason to go
just to see that game would be. It would be
an amazing thing. So I'm into that. Okay, good, Yeah,
if we're heading further a few what about the Seat
Sky Highway.

Speaker 16 (01:38:07):
Yes, So this is the highway that connects Vancouver with Whistler,
and it's a really nice scenic drive.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
Much of it skims the glacial.

Speaker 16 (01:38:15):
Fjord of House Sounds, so you get just gorgeous views
all the way along. And I love looking at the
rock faces on that Cedar Sky Highway because it's like
a very basic geological lesson and the ice age because
all of those rock faces are all just so grooved
and smooth as a result of all that glacial grinding

(01:38:39):
back in the day. And then you've got the sky
high spirelike peaks of the Tentless Range. It is the
most gorgeous mountain range. If you are wanting to go
to Whistler once again a bit like Vancouver Island, you
can do it as a day trip. You might want
to spend long with there to do some hikes. But
if you go there as a day trip, the one

(01:39:00):
thing I would suggest you experience is Peak two Peak.
So this is this high wire gondola extravagamza. It is
like an engineering tutive force because it actually slings you
across various mountaintops between Whistler and Black Come. So it's
the gondola ride is over four kilometers long, which is insane.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:39:26):
So yeah, just.

Speaker 16 (01:39:27):
Put that at the top of your checklist if you're
going there for the day trip.

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
Yeah. Nice, Okay, why are you recommending people explore Squamish.

Speaker 16 (01:39:38):
Yeah, so this is about halfway on the highway to Whistler,
and you could actually just take a jaunt to Squamish
and be quite content with a great day out. The
area is in Trancing Jack And the thing about Squamish
is it's home to Stowam's Chief, which is one of
the world's biggest granite monolithus. And as you approach it, it's like, oh,

(01:39:59):
have I just stumbled into Yosemite? Am I looking at
El Capitan? Or am I looking at the Rock of Gibraltar.
It is just enormous, and it's vertigenous, the rock face
staring straight up for seven hundred meters. And I mean,
for a cheap day out, just go to Squamish Ogle
Still One Mischief and watch all those rock climbers ascending

(01:40:22):
the wall like little ants on a high stakes mission.
There is actually a really good trail that takes you
up the back of it, so you can get right
up to its peak without having to go straight up.

Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
Oh nice. Yeah. How about Grouse Mountain?

Speaker 16 (01:40:40):
Yeah, I think it is a really good crowd pleaser,
no matter the season. Obviously, you know, during the winter months,
a lot of locals in Vancouver will say how they'll
go over there for nighttime skiing, particularly if you live
in North Vancouver. But at this time of year Jack
right through to November.

Speaker 5 (01:40:55):
If you want to.

Speaker 16 (01:40:56):
See some grizzlies, Grouse's Grouse for the bear Refuge. It
is still home to Grinder and Cooler. I saw these
guys about fifteen year ago, similar to when you were there.
And these guys have been playing to the gallery now
for twenty five years. They were rescued as cubs after
their mothers were killed. They're just such colossal bars of

(01:41:19):
ferocious fluff. They are rock stars, these two. And if
you're wondering, they hibernated for one hundred and forty four
days last winter.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
Oh as you do in nice life, wouldn't it, Yeah exactly, Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:41:34):
Any other tips then, yeah, a great little jaunt just
beneath the Grouse Mountain as Lower long Stale. So this
is a really trending neighborhood in North Vancouver and you
can actually get over there from downtown Vancouver on a
sea bus ferry. But it was it's a really interesting
area because previously it was one of Canada's main ship

(01:41:54):
building centers and it's all been repurposed, got a very
strong nautical theme, but it's like just a hive of
condos and plazas and beer gardens and food halls. In fact,
I would sit gesture go to Old World Confections.

Speaker 6 (01:42:09):
I thought of you, Jack.

Speaker 16 (01:42:10):
I've got very good fudge, very good fuge, and also
craft culture in the food hall for the yogurt ice cream,
which is just fantastic. Best of all, you've got the
most amazing views of the city skyline across the water
from lower Lin style, so definitely worth a little jawnt

(01:42:30):
over there.

Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
Oh so perp hey, Thank you so much, Mike. All
of Mike's trips and insights on datrip adventures from Vancouver
will be up at newstalksb dot co dot nz. It's
twenty seven minutes to twelve before midday. We've got new
music from the Rolling Stones, your book picks for the
weekend coming up in a few minutes, and Jason Pine
counting down the minutes to the all back second test
of twenty twenty six. Twenty seven to.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
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Getting your weekends started.

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Twenty four to twelve on News Talks he'd been Rolling Stones,
aren't the only ones releasing new music this week. That's
Jack White dropped a new album yesterday called Frozen Charlotte,
his seventh solo studio studio album, cently a classic Jack
White sound front and scenes of their a That song
is called Dollar Bill. Jason Pine is behind the mic
this afternoon for a weekend sport counting down to the

(01:43:58):
All Backs Italy kickoff this evening and once again Piney,
a tough broadcasting assignment for you this afternoon. Yeah, the
iconic green Man Pub Harder Wellington Corner, Victoria and Williston
stre At. Anyone who's from Wellington or has visited Wellington
knows the green Man, So they're putting us up between
midday and three. Looking forward to mixing with a few

(01:44:19):
punters who with the five o'clock kickoff or ten past
five kickoff, get the feeling there'll be a few who
want to voice an opinion or two. A few guests
as well.

Speaker 22 (01:44:26):
And all the color and the atmosphere as we head
towards Test match Saturday in the Capitol.

Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
And there's a bit of a hometown here, or we
can call them a Hurricane hometown here anyway. Conrad Smith
kicking off the show this afternoon.

Speaker 22 (01:44:36):
Yeah, looking forward to chatting to Conrad. He's obviously one
of our finest ever midfielder's double Rugby World Cup winner
ninety four test All Black. But now this week he's
been appointed into a new role, a head of men's
high performance. So what does this mean?

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
What is the brief of that role and what does he.

Speaker 22 (01:44:53):
See as I don't know KPIs if you can call
them that. What are his priorities as he moves forward
looking at that role? So looking forward to having Conrad
Smith on the show just after midday?

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
Oh fantastic. How are you feeling about football World Cup?
That's Spain Belgium result this morning. I suppose the Spanish,
with the favorites of Belgium, put up a pretty pretty
stern resistance. But my goodness, it's a hell of a
semi final, isn't it. Spain, France.

Speaker 22 (01:45:17):
Absolutely, Belgium at least did something nobody else has done
on that score, a goal against Spain, who had been
you know, the clean sheep masters through this tournament.

Speaker 3 (01:45:26):
Yeah, France Spain.

Speaker 22 (01:45:27):
I feel like whoever wins that game is going to
be favorite for the World Cup, regardless of what happens
On the other side, we've got England Norway tomorrow morning,
Argentina Switzerland tomorrow afternoon. Let's say it's Argentina England and
that's me. That'll be tasty as well. France and Spain.
I think a lot of people had them as the
two favorites before the tournament. The fact they're meeting in
a semi final is a you know, well, I mean

(01:45:48):
it's a bit of a bummer, but you know, if
you come through and you win the World Cup having
beaten the other, then you'll have deserved to win the
World Cup.

Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
Controversial take, I mean, well, I'm not even that controversial.
I think the England Norway game is the most exciting
quarter final and I truly can't distinguish between those teams
which team is likely to progress.

Speaker 22 (01:46:09):
Yeah, it's a good point because you know, when you've
got Earl Harland and your team, as Norway have, it
feels like anything is possible.

Speaker 4 (01:46:15):
You know.

Speaker 22 (01:46:16):
The guy is just an absolute goal scoring freak and
it doesn't matter if it's nil all in a cagey
game or your two one down late, it always has
the ability to do something. All I would say though,
is that England's players are used to facing him. Manchester
City of course, a couple of man City players in
the England team they come up against Earling Harland at
the time, so they may know more than others. The
thing is, though, Jack knowing how to stop them and

(01:46:38):
being able to stop him up two different things.

Speaker 3 (01:46:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeh one hundred percent. I also just think,
I mean, this is early in the tournament to be
saying this, but I thought I thought England showed uncharacteristic
fortitude in that Mexico game the other days.

Speaker 22 (01:46:52):
They didn't fold like a deck of cards that they
know they and I think they'll take great confidence from
that because as just up against a very partisan Mexican crowd,
down to ten men early in the second half and
having to repel everything that was being thrown at them,
they emerged victoria. So yes, I reckon they'll take great
confidence from that. That will be a cracking quarter Finalill
you're right. I mean, the more I talk about it
with you, the more I.

Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
Agree with you.

Speaker 22 (01:47:12):
Yeah, it could be the quarter finals. So yeah, nine
o'clock tomorrow morning from breakfast time.

Speaker 3 (01:47:17):
World Cup. Very good looking forward to this afternoon. You
enjoy yourself, that is Jason Pine broadcasting live from Wellington
for weekend support this afternoon, and don't forget, of course
news talks. He'd be have the All Back Game, All
Blacks Game live and free to wear this afternoon five pm.
The coverage starts Elliot Smith with the call from the
Caketon as they take on Italy for a ten past

(01:47:38):
five kickoff before midday. Foreign Tongues is the new album
from the Rolling Stones. We're going to play you a
couple of songs from that. Next up your book picks
for this weekend. It's twenty to twelve, seventeen to twelve
on Newstalks. He'd be Katherine Rains has your book picks
for this weekend. Get at Catherine, Good morning, check and
let us begin This morning were the latest from Virginia Evans.
Tell us about the correspondent.

Speaker 23 (01:48:00):
So you met this character, Sybil van Antwerp, and she's
seventy two. She's really grumpy, she's quite outspoken. She's very intelligent,
well read and quite independent and very let's say, she
likes things her way. And she was a distinguished chief
clerk to a popular judger guy called Guy Donnelly and
her working life. But what she really loves to do
is write letters, and writing helps her express herself. So

(01:48:22):
the story is told through her handwritten letters to her
friends and her family and anyone else she feels deserves
a piece of her mind. And she also writes to authors,
and she has these ongoing exchanges with Joan Diddon and
Diana Gallward and Larry McMurtry, and many people write back
to her, and you get to read these responses, and
through these letters, she's reflecting back on her life, the
actions she's made and what they meant. She's struggling with

(01:48:45):
going blind and feels, what you know, fears what will
happen to her and her correspondence and her relationships, and
these really honest insights into the things that she actually
hasn't come to terms with and she doesn't want to
open up about. And these close connections you know that
she forms just by kind of putting herself out there
and initiating contact. And it's not an entirely predictable story either.

(01:49:05):
You kind of know where you go, but it's a
really emotional experience the way she writes. And yeah, was
left you thinking about quite a few things at the end,
and very well, I don't always enjoy that kind of
letter writing type of style. But Virginia Evans has really
made this work.

Speaker 3 (01:49:19):
Well okay, yeah, very good. So that's the Correspondent by
Virginia Evans. Next up Daughters of the Sun and Moon
by Lisa sa.

Speaker 23 (01:49:27):
So Lisa c really writes interesting historical fiction and often
about Chinese women and history and sharing their stories. And
in this we're set back to nineteenth century Los Angeles
and it's a really reflective, emotional and heartbreaking book. And
you've got themes of immigration and prejudice and friendship and
family and belonging and they run really strongly throughout this book.

(01:49:50):
And there's three Chinese women that are the central characters
of this and they met by chance in Los Angeles
in eighteen seventeen, and they're completely different from each other.
Dove was sent to America at the age of seventeen
to be the second wife to a store owner while
his wife and children stay at home in China, and
her duty was to serve her new husband and Petel
at the age of eighteen, is sold by her parents

(01:50:11):
in China and she's sent to California to live a
life of prostitution. And moonstory is slightly different because it's
more reflective and told from when she's eighty two years old,
and she's sharing her memories of her life in Los
Angeles and how her life changed when she was twenty
six and met Dove and Petal. But part of this book,
most of this book is centered on this very historical

(01:50:32):
event that set took place in October eighteen seventy one,
when a group of writers in Los Angeles rounded up
all of the Chinese people that they could find, and
the mayor and police turned their backs on what was happening,
and the Chinese were beauty brutally attacked and murdered, and
it became known in history as the Chinese Matter of
eighteen seventy one or the Night of Horrors. So that's

(01:50:53):
the real backdrop to what they're saying, and these really
memorable characters and their support that they offer each other,
and the novel ready raises a very important question is
that you know, have we learned from the past or
we destined to repeat it?

Speaker 4 (01:51:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:51:06):
We really.

Speaker 23 (01:51:08):
It was a part of history that I didn't know
anything about, and here since started to read a bit
more about it. An incredibly well written story.

Speaker 3 (01:51:14):
Okay that sounds fascinating. That's Daughters of the Sun and Moon.
It's by Lisa c c is spelt see and we'll
have the details for that and the correspondent by Virginia
Evans up at newstalksdb dot co dot in Seid. Thanks
so much, Catherine. I'll catch you again next Saturday Morning.
Next up, Foreign Tongues, the brand new album from the
not quite brand new Rolling Stones.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
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Sweet ass listening for your Saturday Saturday Morning with Jack
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Speaker 3 (01:52:24):
That is in the stars are the Rolling Stones. They've
just released Foreign Tongues, their twenty fifth studio album, recorded
an under a month in West London, fourteen tracks, reuniting
the band with producer Andrew watt Our. Music reviewer Chris
Schultz has been listening and is with us this one
and Kilda Kilder Jack.

Speaker 24 (01:52:45):
Those numbers are crazy right like this. They've been going
so long it's almost ridiculous. They are aside from the
Beach Boys, they are the longest running still active rock
band in the world six decades and the Beach.

Speaker 6 (01:53:00):
Boys is debatable.

Speaker 24 (01:53:01):
They've only got one original member left and he's not
the front man. The Rolling Stones have three is still kicking,
but they're.

Speaker 6 (01:53:09):
Old, they're sold.

Speaker 24 (01:53:10):
Mick Jagger is eighty three this month, Keith Richards is
eighty two, and Ronnie Wood is seventy nine. They don't
need to be doing this, but I'm kind of glad
they are. You can sort of hear it in that song.
There's there's some there's some there's some figure, there's some kick,
there's some spark in this album. More than twenty twenty

(01:53:31):
fours Hackney Diamonds, the last album that was criticized for
lacking a bit of that kind of like attitude that
the Rolling Stones you usually have. You can't hear it
on this album. It opens with this kind of blues
rock monster of a song. It's a it's a way
to kick off a proper rock album, and there's bits
of that all the way through the record. So yeah,

(01:53:55):
I was surprised at how how do I want a
word that use the word youthful?

Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
Probably not, but yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:54:03):
But they sound they sound alive.

Speaker 24 (01:54:05):
They do sound like the Rolling Stones again, and that's
that's a good thing. They are having some fun with this.
My dad reminded me this morning that when he was
a kid, the Rolling Stones and the Beatles with the
bands that they you know, that was their rebellious, rebellious music.
That was their rage against the machines sort of for
that era. But they had a famous rivalry. Well, Paul

(01:54:28):
McCartney's on this album, which sort of shows you that
they're kind of enjoying themselves right to invite their their
famous rival onto their album. Bruno Mars is on here.
He's credited on one song for playing cow bell, which
made me laugh. But the moment I kind of fell
in love with this era of the Rolling Stones is

(01:54:49):
a song called hit Me in the Head and I'm
going to read you out. The lyrics Mick Jaggers sings,
one of these days, I'm going to fall down dead.

Speaker 6 (01:54:57):
I'll go a lot quicker if you hit me in
the head.

Speaker 13 (01:55:00):
Now.

Speaker 24 (01:55:00):
I thought that might be a reference to the two
thousand and six incident. Do you remember when Keith Richards
fell out of feet He was airlifted to New Zealand.
The tabloids had a field day. This was headline news
for weeks. He had a concussion. He recovered in rem
era but no, it just sounds like they're poking fun
at their age, and you kind of want that from

(01:55:23):
a band at this point, right, Like, it is ridiculous.
It's ridiculous they're still here. It's crazy they're still going.
I guess the big question is are they going to tour?
You know that they have sort of spoken about it.
Mick Jagger's suggested a stadium run could happen in twenty
twenty seven.

Speaker 6 (01:55:41):
I kind of feel like that would be a big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
You know, it would be huge, It would be huge.

Speaker 24 (01:55:47):
Yeah, what is satisfaction like when Mick Jagger is eighty four?

Speaker 6 (01:55:51):
Like, I mean, that's unprecedented, right.

Speaker 3 (01:55:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:55:56):
Where the Keith Richards is up to it? I think
is a big question. He's got arthritis in his hands.
He does say that some days he wakes up and
his knuckles are so gnarly he can't really play guitar,
So it'll it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
Would definitely make it tricky. Yeah, yeah, So what did
you give it? What did you give foreign tongues?

Speaker 6 (01:56:12):
I'm I'm gonna give it three and a half. You knows, Mark?

Speaker 4 (01:56:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:56:16):
With the album cover, the album covers awful and there's
an Amy Winehouse cover on here that I really also
didn't enjoy. They cover his song you Know No Good.
It's in the middle of the album. It just kind
of stops everything.

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
Yeah, if they'd.

Speaker 24 (01:56:28):
Sort of shrunk it to ten songs, that would have
been okay better.

Speaker 3 (01:56:33):
Yeah, well have it. Listen to another song in a
couple of minutes. But thank you, Chris. You can hear
more from Chris on his substick Boiler Room three and
a half stars for Foreign Tongues by the Rolling Stones.

Speaker 1 (01:56:43):
Your weekend stance right here. Saturday Morning with Jack dam
on News Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:56:50):
Saturday Morning is almost Saturday afternoon, So thank you very
much for your company and your communications this morning. Thanks
to my producer Lock for doing the tough stuff for
us this morning. Jason Pine has weekend sport from Wellington,
counting down to the All Backs kickoff against Italy just
after five o'clock the Sea, and we're gonna leave you
with the Rolling Stones from their new album Foreign Tongues.

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This is rough and Twisted.

Speaker 12 (01:57:12):
See you next Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
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