Full Show Podcast: 14 March 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:43):
Mord In A good morning, Welcome to news Dog eDV.
I'm Jack tam with you through the midday today. Do
you reckon that Louis Theroux is the closest thing we
have to uh, the era parent for Todavid Edinburgh. I
just reckon he is not because I think he's going

(01:03):
to be doing wildlife documentaries. He's not going to be
sitting there watching the gazelle getting stalked by the lion
or anything like that. No, no, no, just because find me
someone who doesn't like Louis Throux. Honestly, I just think
if they do that. You know, there's kind of approval
ratings for politicians and presidents and the like. I just
feel like Louis Theroux and Sir David Attenbro would have

(01:25):
like a ninety nine point nine percent positivity rating. The
reason I mentioned him is Louis throu has a brand
new show, Louis Theroux in the Manisphere. We're going to
take a look at it after ten o'clock this morning,
tell you where you can watch it as well. Our
feature interview on news Talk ZEDB is Jordan Luck. The
thing about Jordan Luck is he hasn't had a whole

(01:46):
lot of it in recent weeks. His place has been
flooded out. He was in one of the worst affected
areas when those floods hit parts of the country last month.
So we're going to catch up with him ahead of
the exponents performing at the Symphony Festival and see how
things are at his place. Honestly, he's been digging out
silt trying to help out his neighbors over the last
couple of weeks, so hopefully things are improved moving for

(02:06):
Jordan Lake. Before ten o'clock, a delicious recipe live from
the Wanaka show for you this morning, the Tomato a
tomato chili jam recipe. When our cook joins us right now,
it's eight minutes past nine, Jack Dae. You know I
reckon that living in New Zealand is kind of like
sitting on the back seat of a bus. You feel cool,

(02:27):
the views great, but when the world goes over a
speed bump, we just tend to get kicked up in
the air a little bit. More than everyone else. The
government says we've got more than fifty days fuel, either
in the country or in ships that are already en route.
That is that's great, isn't it? That's reassuring. But as

(02:49):
petrol prices have steadily climbed this week, I'm sure I'm
not the only one who's been wondering what agency I
have in this situation. I don't know about you, but
it would be really, really nice for our household finances
to be a little less dependent on the whim and
fancies of one Donald Trump. Now, I totally get that

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everyone's different, Every household is different. There are different pressures
and needs, and I promise I'm not going to lect
you this morning, but can I gently suggest that this
crisis might be the perfect excuse to diversify your household transportation.
It's funny. One of the many reasons I hear for

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people not wanting to cycle more is that they have kids. But,
in case you've not been paying attention, bike technology has
come an awfully long way. We're no longer in the
age of crusty old ten speeds. Case in point. Over
the summer holidays, I bought a shotgun, not a double barrel,

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single gauge, etc. Shotgun No, no. A shotgun is a special
seat which attaches to a mountain bike in the space
between the rider's chest and the handlebars. So picture someone
riding a bike, right, they've got their arms outstretched. In
that space between the rider's chest and the handlebars is
a little seat. The seat's got a little harness. There

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are foot rests and a bar to hold on to.
And let me tell you it is maybe the most
fun you can have with a one year old. Yes,
I ride with my one year old. We ride for
fun through the local parks. We visit the ducks and
the eels, or cycle alongside the tram at motat. He's
right there in front of me. I can whisper in

(04:36):
his ear as we pedal along. Look a dog, dog,
Can you say dog? We ride for practical computing commuting
purposes as well, So we ride down to the local library,
We go down to school to get his brother. We
ride to the supermarket for milk and a fresh crop
of bananas. My son absolutely hates wearing his son hat,

(04:58):
but the moment I put his helmet out of the garage,
he starts squealing with excitement and he gladly lets me
underneath his slobbery chin. Honestly, it's awesome. His older brother's
got a new bike as well. Not a new one,
it's such a you know, a new off trade me bike,
a new second hand bike. He's nine and in his

(05:21):
second to last year of primary school, so I'm slowly
working to teach him the road rules and just get
him comfortable. They finally finished the contentious cycle lanes at
the top of our street, which means he now has
a much safer route to ride to school every morning,
and the government's recent changes mean he can also legally
ride on the footpath. I'm not going to pretend that

(05:41):
it's a totally risk free exercise. It's not. But I
ride with him, and we ride carefully, and with the
cycle lanes and the footpath, I just figure it's a
really good way to build some independence and get him
ready for intermediate. I mean, there is a reason that
a few decades ago so many more kids would ride
to school. It's also just an excellent way to avoid

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the traffic jam a drop off and pick up times
outside the school gate, and a couple of days a
week I take both of the boys down to the
local pump track and watch as the nine year old
burns off a bit of gas, which, speaking of, my
wife and I aren't burning when we commute to work,
I ride a fantastic light, fast gravel bike, and on

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a busy morning in Auckland traffic i'm in the office,
I reckon twice to maybe three times as fast as
I would be if I decided to drive. Honestly, nothing
makes me lose my mind like sitting in traffic. It
makes me crazy just sitting there crawling along. So I'm
in a much much better headspace when I ride to work,

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and I'm saving twenty dollars a day on parking. My
wife rides an e bike. If you haven't had a
good hoon on an e bike, honestly, you don't know
what you're missing. They're amazing for transporting a human being
from A to B. They reckon that e bikes are
the most efficient powered transport ever invented by miles. Hills

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are a breeze, Straits are a breeze. Everything's a breeze.
It's an unmitigated joy that opens up cycling to so
many more people. Again, I am not insisting that cycling
is perfect for everyone or for every household. It might
not suit you. It's certainly not perfect for every journey,
of course not. But I am suggesting that there are

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many of us who who might be pleasantly surprised at
the upsides of saddling up. And I just think there
are many, many more of us who, if we were
totally honest, could probably be riding at least some of
the journeys that we currently choose to drive instead. And honestly,
maybe this situation is the little push you need. So,

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whether you have an ebike or not, cycling is obviously
a lot cheaper than sitting in traffic, but trust me,
it is way, way, way more fun too. Jack Tame
ninety two ninety two is the text number if you
want to send us messages this morning. Don't forget the
standard text costs apply. Jack at Newstalks edb dot co

(08:16):
dot nzed is the email address. How about them warriors
bar forty points on the Raiders in the rain, What
a performance. We'll get our sphotos thoughts on that very shortly.
Plus the Landers Saders clash this evening. Can't wait for
that right now, It's quarter past nine. Kevin Murtmon will
kick us off for our Saturday morning to get the

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next I'm Jack Tame. It's Saturday morning and this is
Newstalk's EDB.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
No better way to kick off your weekend then with
Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks B.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Eighteen minutes past nine on Newstalks EDB. Thank you for
your messages. Jack, Sure, let's cycle over the Harbor Bridge
to work from the north Shore. Okay, as I said,
I thought very clear. Actually, but perhaps not as I said,
cycling is not perfect for every journey or every household. No,
I'm not claiming it is. All I'm saying is that

(09:14):
I think many of us could look at some of
the journeys we do and probably cycle them instead of driving.
That's what I reckon, Jack Aweso edatorial. Thank you on
the email this morning. Dean's flip me a note has
been so often, does Jack. It's been amazing to me
for some time now that schools conscious of their carbon
footprints haven't been organizing walking school buses and working with

(09:35):
community groups to provide communal bicycles. A huge improvement in
child health, great savings for the planet, losing the crazy
school commutes morning and afternoon. Thank you for that. Ninety
two to ninety two is the text number if you
want to send me a message. Jacket News Talks, he'd
be dot code on Hendy. I just reckon, even if
it was one in ten, even if you even if
the commute to work is not going to work for you,
even if the taking the kids the school isn't going

(09:57):
to work with that's totally fine. You do you, But
I reckon, if you're totally honest, there would be some
journeys that you do in which maybe cycling could be
an alternative option to driving and it would save your
money over time. Nineteen minutes past nine, Kevin Mill. There
is with us this morning, Kilder Kevin Jack.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
My wife won't let me go out on the bike.
She thinks I'm a better responsible and when you're in
a car being a responsible, which I don't believe I am. Yeah,
she you know you're protected by a wall of steel.
But I think she's a little bit worried that I'm

(10:39):
going to do something really is stupid and get run over.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, I mean it definitely takes. I'm not saying cycling
is a risk free exercise. I mean it never has been. Sadly,
I actually think if more of us cycled that cars
would be a little bit more aware, but also it
collectively would probably get safer because the kind of general
cycling standard of general cyclists would improve as well. What

(11:04):
about are there any cycle lanes in your neighborhood?

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Uh, we don't really need them. Where we are, there
are cycle lanes.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, I mean because one option is just you take that,
you take the quieter streets and things, you know, like
you don't yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So no, it's I think it's great.
My mind goes back to the grade old days of
christ Church. Yeah, where all the kids rode bikes to school. Yeah,
you know, it was terrific, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Totally?

Speaker 3 (11:33):
I was on my robin hood classic from hob days
bicycles and Edgeware roads.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
There you go, how good? See? I still I used
to ride. I rode my bike to school when I
was a kid all the time, and all of my
mates did too. It was actually it was the first
way I either had independence, you know, was to was
to ride to school, and and I felt like it
kind of built uh you know, built a little bit
of maturity.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Anyway, anyway, Kevin, you've been battling this week. You might
not be cycling fresh, but you've been battling to keep
your music.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
For I tried to keep up with pop music that's
fairly current. Jack. It's good to avoid continually going to
concerts by the stars of the seventies and eighties fading stars,
so it won't be at the Guns n' Roses concert
nor Split Ends. Probably. I did go and see the

(12:27):
best at Miao Nui and Wellington last night. I like
the best. When I told my friends I was going,
no one had heard of them. Disappointing for all the
best one, best group and best album I think at
the Music Awards a year or two ago. Naturally, I
was keen to share with the young people I know

(12:48):
that I was off to see the best, particularly the
uber call barista at my coffee outlet. Her reaction, They're
a Wellington band, aren't they No, they're from Auckland. She
was keen to share that she too, had just bought
tickets for a show Split Ends for goodness sake. Keeping
up with the younger mob has its challenges, though, Jack.

(13:11):
After I bought the best tickets for Linda, my son
Jake and I I discovered that they were standing, only
this didn't appeal to my arthritic knee. Jake did me
a favor. He texts the venue and explained his dad
was coming to the Best show. He had a dodgy knee.
Could they spring the old fellow a seat? Sure? They said,

(13:35):
when he gets here, let's know and we'll set him
up on a chair at the back. Now, Jack Jake
wasn't sure that I'd accept this, he said, I beat
you one asked for the chair. Your pride won't let
you sit in an old man's chair out the back.
He had a damn good point, as it turned out.
When we got there, all three of us were given

(13:56):
seats in the flash upstairs area. Ashley Bloomfield was there,
Sir Ashley that my old knew is a terrific new
vent and Wellington totally enjoyed the show. The Bests are
a hell of a band, rockier than I expected. But
I now a wait bad bunny to hit town. You're

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never too old to get into some Puerto Rican pop.
You'd be into Latin track, wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
You, jack.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Ah, Isn't it a bad bunny for you this morning?
Do you know? I I do like a little bit
of Latin music from time to time, Kevin, he wouldn't
be my he wouldn't be my go to. I'd usually
go for a little bit of Rosalia maybe, or when
she's singing singing in Spanish, maybe go for a little
bit of Miguel as well. They kind of crossover problem

(14:46):
is that I struggle to understand what they're saying. But yeah,
I mean, how good to be diversifying your tastes given.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
It's great.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
It's great to hear a vocalist who's still got a
bit of voice left. Yeah, yeah, I mean she's had
her what's her name, Elizabeth Stokes. She's like at the
peak of her career, and her voice is just brilliant.
And you know, you just get tired of going along
to see some of these old stars and clearly, clearly

(15:20):
their voices are not good.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Ah, I don't know that not good, Kevin. No, they
might just be a slightly different experience in the past.
But yeah, I don't know, I think.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
No, I'm not putting I'm not putting down the ends
of course.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
No. No, it's true that over time most of us
would see a bit of a change.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, yeah, I saw crowded house and fin in the
last year. That's enough for me in that sort of area. Yeah,
but yeah, I just thought it was. It was a
great night at a fantastic venue.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh, very good, Kevin. I'm pleased to hear it. And
good on you for trying something new. Kevin milm with
us this morning. Thank you very much for your text check.
My high school in Hawk's Bay in the nineties had
twelve hundred kids, four hundred of them by my son's
high school in Auckland today has two thousand kids. Seven
back to school, Jack, I say about three hundred bucks

(16:09):
a month by biking to work. I still drive if
I need to, but the bike is much more fun
and I never get stuck in traffic to Simon, right on, Jack,
how do you get by riding your bike in Auckland
and all of the Auckland rain, says Charlie. Good question.
I mean it was a little bit damp this morning.
I'm in Auckland this morning, a little bit damp. So
what I did is I rode in shorts and I

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put my trousers in my back, and then when I
got to work, I changed out of my I changed
out of my shorts and put on my trousers was
pretty simple. I mean, it's true that you do get
caught sometimes if it's absolutely pouring with that, and this
is the other thing. If it's absolutely pouring with rain,
I will take the bus, or I will get an uber,
or I'll drive. I'm just saying if you cut out

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a little bit of driving a few journeys from time
to time, especially when petrol's going through the roof and
our supplies looking a little bit uncertain, then maybe you'll
find you actually save a bit of money. Ninety two
is the text number if you want to send us
a message. I'll get to more of those messages in
just a couple of minutes before ten. We've got your
film picks for this week, including war Machine, this new
film which was partially filmed in New Zealand, so our

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reviewer will be in with her thoughts on that. Sportos
here next with his take on that incredible Warriors performance
last night, plus the Sader's Landers this evening twenty s
x PARS nine.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team
on News talksb Jack.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Schools do, says Philippa. We do organize cycling groups. We
all push it, especially with moving march. I don't know
about moving march. Sorry, Philippa. Jack, you're not actually exercising
with an ee bite. You need to use a pedal bikes,
says So. I mean that's the thing. So it doesn't
have to be for exercise purposes. It could just be
for saving money purposes, as long as cyclists stay on
the road bus lanes and cycle lanes and follow the

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road rules, don't go through red lights, et cetera. Good
on them, says Denise. Here. We have a lot of
love for cyclists this morning, eh, Jury says I'd love
if the government could somehow subsidize e bikes from people
who want the bike. I know it would be expensive,
but it could be a good start to getting people
biking everywhere and saving on fuel. Ninety two ninety two
is the text number if you want to send us
a message this morning. Andrew Savills, have you you have

(18:19):
a ride a bike? I'm not the don sort of
strike me as someone who's particularly enthusiastic cyclist to you.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
I don't strike you as as an enthusiastic cyclist.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well, I'm not. I've not seen you knocking about either
the INDs in me or the TV and Z.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Look the hills, the hills. I live over the Harbor
Bridge rights, that's a sticking point. Obviously, you can't bike
over that hill. The hills, the hills I love.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
I loved growing up as you did in Christ's Biking
on the Flat. Yeah, we used to bike everywhere, didn't we.
You'd bike across town under the teeth of a Northwestern
when the time you got by the time you got
went home, it was into the teeth of an Easterly.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, those are the fun days.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Have you had to go on an e bike?

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yes, I have. And they're brilliant, brilliant with that texture.

Speaker 6 (19:06):
Before say somehow they should be subsidized, because I think
everyone would get one.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Then yeah, do you know they are the most efficient
for transporting him being they're the most efficient powered transport
ever invented. Yeah, like they're just so like the amount
of energy needed to move a person is just like
there's something like ten times more efficient than an electric vehicle.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
And the fact that most most of them obviously you
can just how much you have to pedle or how
much exactly, and it's yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, very good. Hey, what did you say to me
we bid each other? Well, last night you said, I'm
going to think.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Who I said it? That kind of thing. Who I
said it to it? It was you, wasn't it. You said?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
As Sam was leaving the office, he said, home to
watch the Warriors. They're up against the Raiders. I don't
give them much of a chance, especially in the rain.
You said, yeah, fake news, fake news.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
I think.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
I said, I would be pleasantly surprised if the Warriors
beat the Canberra Raiders tonight, and I was the Raiders
are a very good team. Yeah, they had a bit
of a fright last week against Manly. I think it'll
went to golden point in the first round. But the
Raiders very very good team. They finished top last year. Yeah,
it's just unfortunate for them they fell over in the playoffs.

(20:18):
But well, coach Waldrid, I thought the Warriors were out
standing last night. Yeah, the defense jack, the defense led
in They missed quite a few tackles against the Roosters
and they led in a few.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Tries against the Roosters in that second half last week.
But last night, just.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
Only to concede six points is outstanding in the NRL
because most of the game is based around speed and attack,
and to score forty against the Raiders I thought was
a brilliant performance. The thing that's impressed me the last
couple of weeks is over the years, the Warriors have
had plenty of dud ossie players.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Right.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
When a Warriors team does well, you've got a mix
of real hard grafting ossies and the odd star plus
some really talented locals, right, And I think that's what
has happening or what we're starting to see in this
Warriors team. You've got Jackson Ford, who's a hard grafting
Ford was outstanding again last night, Tanner Boy, the half
back who's come into his own in the last couple

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of weeks. And then you've got a player like Lecqua Helasima,
who if the Warriors and Warriors haven't locked up for
the next ten years in a contract, they should.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, yeah, totally agree. No, it was just fantastic, and
you know, it just proved as ever, the Warriors are
basically impossible to pack, right, Like, you don't know what
you're going to get. If we were seeing it, they've
gone down forty six of super surprised.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, two wins doesn't make a winter.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
No, no, it doesn't, it doesn't.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
It's great for confidence, it's great for momentum, ye, morale,
what have you.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
So that's a that's a very good start.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, yeah, no, I totally agree. Crusaders, Highlanders and Christy
so interesting.

Speaker 6 (22:01):
Hurricanes said okay last night against the Fource, I think
they were down at half time and maybe they had
such a good go and Sidney the previous suit might
have taken them the force slightly, but they came through
a one.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (22:10):
Really looking forward to tonight the Crusaders under all sorts
of heat. They haven't had a great start to the season.
The old neighbors who they played in Round one only
a few weeks ago, and the Highlanders if you remember
one with that last minute goalkick. It's always a hard fought,
fascinating game between these two neighbors, so and this should

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be no different tonight.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
I'm looking forward.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
To seeing how the Crusaders bounced back from that loss
to the Blues. They were dreadful and patches against the
Blues they looked disjointed, couldn't get a flow on. Blues
played well, but I thought the Crusaders really lacked last week.
So they're they're under the pump to front tonight in
christ Church, one of the last games at the old
Showgrounds venue before they moved. So yeah, looking forward to this,

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and then of course during the week we had this.
I think it's been blown out of all proportion. That's
dust up at training. I've been to a million training sessions,
whether it's super teams, MPC, all blacks, and there's always
push and shove when they get into the hard work,
there's always push and shove, if not the odd stand up.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
And set to.

Speaker 6 (23:15):
So it's it's it's it's not out of this world.
It's not strange, it's not foreign. I think the problem
for the Crusaders is I think they protested too.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Much jack and made more out of it than what
it was.

Speaker 6 (23:27):
I can't understand them getting a bit niggly if it's
been misreported, but I think they probably.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Should have just kept quiet and let it go.

Speaker 6 (23:36):
And and I think some of the coverage of it
has been quite sensationalized. On the other hand, and this
talk of a media band. Look we turned up yesterday,
I think it was and we certainly weren't banned. We
were able to film parts of the training session. So
but it all adds, and it all adds a little
bit of spice into tonight's going.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Does it happen often?

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Does that happens? Yep.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
We're often not allowed into training to see the real
pitty gritty, but some times we are, with various teams,
we're not allowed to film.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
That's a frustration. We're not allowed to film the heck
of a lot of the real.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
Physical yeah stuff they do it training because these teams
do work hard.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Of course, but I mean the teams often it would
be like, you know, when most teams have occasions where
a couple of players just had a bit of a
kind of thing, you know.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
Yeah, well, look, it's a it's a it's a it's
a it's a hard edge sport. It's a it's a
bat of sport. And you've got one team who are
playing as the opposition and training, and then you've got
your starting team and and flying into each other and
this stuff happens.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, certainly it's not real.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, not very good. Hey, thank you sir. We will
catch you catch again very soon. Andrews have our sport
over us. There's just, honestly, so many texts and emails
a couple of you have pointed out the work ride scheme. Yeah,
that's amazing that that's kind of a ride to work
benefit program work ride dot co dot NZ where you
can basically get access to e bikes a whole lot
easier than you might otherwise be able to. Jack my one,

(25:06):
I've already has an EV on order after trading in
her car. This fuel drama has tipped her over the edge,
says muzz And get this Jack. I'm a trade and
a Westy. Over the past three years, I've taken an
ET scooter along the Northwestern Cycleway. I've just clocked six
five hundred k's on the scooter. I can't believe how

(25:26):
silly I was sitting in traffic for no reason she is.
That's amazing. Six six and a half thousand k's on
your scooter. That's extraordinary. Ninety two ninety two. If you
want to send us some message twenty three to ten
twenty tweet to ten on New six said beginning a

(25:53):
wee bit excited there. The reason why is Billie Eilish
is about to have her first major acting role. That
was Billy Eilish, of course, Birds of a Feather, Sylvia
Sylvia plaths. The Bell Jar is going to be the
latest literary classic to get the film treatment, and Billie
Eilish is going to be in it, so that'll be
very interesting. Speaking of films, time to get your picks

(26:14):
for this weekend. Francesca Rudkin our film reviewers here, Good morning,
good one. We are going to begin with War Machine,
which is screening on Netflix at the moment, partially shot
in New Zealand. So let's have a listen. Mangers, aren't
the spiritead of the United States Army? Do you understand me?

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Thanks, Superman, thank you.

Speaker 7 (26:35):
Rest of us look bad.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
You can expect your emotional, physical, and mental strength to
be pushed to the limit.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Bam, bam bam. That's War Machine. So tell us about it, hourrah.

Speaker 8 (26:47):
Yes, So this film is ridiculous. It is so silly.
It is totally unchallenging and perfect tonight if you would
like to just put your feet up on the couch
and forget about the world and whether you should fill
the car up or not and things like that. And
I actually enjoy this film more than I should have.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Just listening to that, I wondered if Pete Higgsseeth might
be starring in it.

Speaker 8 (27:13):
And the reason being is that it's an action film
and they keep the action going and it gets it
on a roll and it's full on and as absurd
as the sort of the plot and the premise and
things is. It's just great escapist sort of entertainment. And look,
it's always lovely. I personally always love seeing New Zealand
on screen. And it sort of started and I was going, gosh,

(27:34):
that Tussick looks very familiar in those pine trees, and
that's sort of this sorttle.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Bit of a gurgle.

Speaker 8 (27:39):
I went yes, And it was partly shot in New
Zealand and in Australia, but in the South Island kind
of around Queenstown area. So it looks awesome as well.
And I'm not Richson, who is of course Jack Reacher.
He is in this film. He does a very good
job of carrying this action flick with the sort of
the limited character development that he's given. It also stars

(28:00):
Dennis Quaid. Basically, we've got a group of rangers who
are training to become US Army Rangers. There in the
final stage of their selection, they're sent out on an
exercise which ends up being a bit of a fact
for Survival. I'm not going to tell you anything more
about it because I want everybody to laugh as loudly

(28:20):
as I did when I realized what was going on. Yeah,
so it's a mix of Predator meets Transformer. It's just
big dumb fun. Yeah, not doing anything tonight, love an
action flick, looking for some distraction.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Here you go, very good. Okay, cool, So that's warmer.
Say that's on Netflix right now. Your next film is
showing in cinematas, so let's have a listen. This is
reminders of him.

Speaker 7 (28:50):
There is before you, there was during him.

Speaker 9 (29:05):
I never thought there would be an after you.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Okay, that's reminders of him.

Speaker 8 (29:11):
So this is another Colleen Hoover novel adaptation, following on
from It Ends with Us was probably the last film
that people remember Colin Hoover was executive producer on that show,
but that film sort of ended actually with more controversy,
and so she's kind of stepping up now and she's
kind of taken control of writing screenplays and producing her
film so these films so that they are more faithful

(29:35):
to the novels that she's written. I'm not a I
don't read Colleen Hoover I haven't picked up any of
her books, but she has a massive, ready made fan base.
It's clear to see why Hollywood would be interested in
two of his films into adaptations, and the fact that
she has so much control would imply to me that
if you are a fan, you're probably going to be
really happy with what you see on screen here. It's

(29:55):
very well made, it's a very handsome production. It's well cast.
Got a good cast Michael Munroe, Tyreeq Withers, Lauren Graham,
Bradley wit would It's a movie about lo and grief
and forgiveness and second chances. Probably fifteen minutes in Jack,
I could tell you exactly how this film was going

(30:16):
to unfold and everything that was going to happen, and boom.
I was absolutely right. So it didn't for me. It
didn't need to be almost two hours long. I didn't
feel like there was enough substance in here. It was
very drawn out with flashbacks and narrations, and actually the
cast did a really good job. We didn't need to
be sort of doubly explained what was going on. Look,

(30:41):
I yeah, is this is a story of a character
who is involved in an accident. She has a car accident,
her boyfriend dies, she was influenced by drugs. She goes
to prison, she comes out of prison, she's done a
lot of self reflection, and she's coming back to the
small town to try to get to know a baby
girl that she had while she was in prison, which

(31:02):
has currently been looked after by her boyfriend's parents. So
it's all about kind of reconnect and forgiveness and redemption
and things like that. As I say, you know, well
acted real nicely, terribly predictable and tried to drawn out
all that. Helen, Karen Carrie Woodham's producer, was very upset

(31:24):
that I found a blessed Oh no, she said, what
about the music, Francisca, So just for Helen, I would
also a very good soundtrack country numbers.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
As I mean Helen, as you know, produced Saturday Mornings
for many, many years, and so I could, yeah predict
that if she likes the soundtrack, there's going to be
just a little bit of country and there say the least,
thanks Francesca. So those films are reminders of him. That's
the predictable one showing and cinemas and War Machine is
the hoorah one that's on Netflix. At the moment. Make

(31:52):
sure both of those films the details for them are
up on the news talk s. He'd be website Jack.
I'm Dutch, so I grew up on a bike. I
commute to work three or four days a week. I
invested in good rain gear and gloves. But I do
have to admit a lot of key we last aren't
helping themselves. Two three, side by side, undercutting, etc. I
reckon cycle education in schools would go a long way.

(32:14):
Thanks for that. Ninety two to ninety two. If you
want to send us a message, We're in the kitchen
next with a delicious tomato chili jam recipe.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Saturday morning with Jack team keeping the conversation going through
the weekend US Talks EB.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
If you like me, are a huge fan of Louis
Theroux and actually you just feel like sitting on the
couch this weekend, All good, All good. After ten o'clock
in our screen time segment, we are going to tell
you all about the new Louis Theroux special, Louis Theroux
in the Manisphere. The Manisphere. Yeah, this is going to
be an interesting one, and you know it's kind of

(32:50):
a topical subject at the moment, as so many of
his things are so very much looking forward to that,
very much looking forward to seeing Louis do his thing.
Right now though, It's eleven minutes to ten and Nicky
Wick's our cook is here with us this morning live
from the Wanica AMP Show.

Speaker 10 (33:06):
Good morning, good morning from this beautiful place and this wonderful,
wonderful show.

Speaker 9 (33:13):
It's amazing, clear blue booth day as you'd imagine for Wonica, freezing.

Speaker 10 (33:18):
Cold, freezing cold, but it will heat up to a scorching.

Speaker 9 (33:21):
Temperature, I've no doubt.

Speaker 11 (33:23):
Yeah, the one.

Speaker 10 (33:24):
AMP Show on its eighty ninth iteration, so it has
been around for nearly nineteen years, Jack, which is absolutely incredible.
One of the largest agricultural festivals that our country has.
It's extraordinary. There's just everything, And I love being at
a show where every now and again I'll hear a little.

Speaker 9 (33:42):
Horse whinnying and I'm.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
Like, where I am? I again?

Speaker 9 (33:45):
This is crazy.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
It's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, that's a great favorite part for me.

Speaker 10 (33:50):
As you can imagine, is went down to the home
industry pavilion yesterday where we've got all of the baking, preserving,
growing crafts, all of that. Just absolutely incredible Dahlia's roses
all on display. They've all been judged the day before.

Speaker 9 (34:06):
A really extraordinary.

Speaker 10 (34:09):
A couple of things I noticed short bread, short bread
hotly contested category, carling yet hotly contested, and you should
have seen them. I was desperate to nibble on them,
but I wasn't allowed. But Carling Shale, she runs the
one Homestead, this really beautiful lodge right on the edge
of sort of the lake and station park here in Wanica.

Speaker 9 (34:31):
She is She's just taken out.

Speaker 10 (34:33):
The top award for her shortbread for the I think
it was the fourth or fifth time in a row.

Speaker 9 (34:38):
And so I did ask her, what's your what you
know what?

Speaker 2 (34:41):
What's what's the trick?

Speaker 10 (34:42):
And she said really really low temperature. She wouldn't quite
go as far as giving me her recipe, but low temperature.
And honestly, it was just pure white as the driven snow,
if you like, and it would just looked absolutely beautiful.
Lots of preserves, tons of really good preserves, and quite
a few tomato or chili jam So that's what I've got.

Speaker 9 (35:01):
For our listeners this morning. This is my recipe. If
I was going to enter the one AMP show down there,
I reckon it would get a ribbon, but I don't know.
Hotly contested. He's a nice small batch for you.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Two.

Speaker 9 (35:14):
It will make about two to three jars. I use
a kaye g of.

Speaker 10 (35:17):
Tomatoes, so everyone, if you're growing tomatoes, you'll have tons
of them by now. They're really starting to come into
their own. So one kg of those five red chilies,
take the seeds out, take that little vein out of
there too. Or you can use quarter to a half
a teaspoon of chili flake. So we've got a little
bit of a kick in here. Chop those up nice
and small. Two cloves of garlic, peeled and crushed. Two

(35:40):
cups of white sugar. Remember this is a jam, so
we do want a fair bit of sugar in there
to help us with, you know, sort of setting this.
Half a cup of apple, side of vinegar, maybe a
splash more. Two tablespoons of balsomic vinegar that gives it
a lovely kind of extra caramelly sort of flavor, good
squeeze of lemon juice, and half a teaspoon of salt.
And all I do, Jack is bring all of those

(36:02):
ingredients to the boil. I stir it and stir it
till the sugar is dissolved. Take the heat down, simmer
it for about an hour, and the.

Speaker 9 (36:09):
Mixture should thicken up nicely. Those tomatoes will become nice
and polpy.

Speaker 10 (36:14):
You know, these things always when they're sort of boiling
hot with all that sugar, look quite thin.

Speaker 9 (36:18):
But it's thicken up as it's sort of calls. So
remember that.

Speaker 10 (36:22):
You can taste a teaspoon of it, you know, for
the heat and for setting. Put it on a saucer
and sort of run your fingers through it, and it
should sort of that line should stay there. It's kind
of runny, more than sticky, but still a beautiful you know,
it's beautiful flavor. And I spoon that into warm or
even hot sterilized jars, seal them up keeps forever.

Speaker 9 (36:45):
I use it on.

Speaker 10 (36:46):
Everything, in toasties, cheese and crackers, sandwiches, not on ice cream.

Speaker 9 (36:52):
Somebody said once to me, do you think it would
go on ice cream?

Speaker 12 (36:54):
And are we?

Speaker 9 (36:55):
But there you go with parmesan. Beautiful, So that would
be my entry. And if I was going to eat
up for.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Here, fantastic, that's just beautiful. What we will do is
we'll put that recipe on the News Talks he'd be website.
Can I give you one last recommendation since you're in
that part of the country, Please, do you just know
how I can sniff out a delicious little pastry wherever
I am. Honestly, I feel like I can hear dessert.
But if you are looking for a little sweet treat
tomorrow morning, PEMBROKERI you're there, Pembroke pri if you.

Speaker 9 (37:26):
Jack, if you don't think I've already been there, Oh.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Good, okay, okay, I'm just checking, just checking.

Speaker 10 (37:34):
A yeah, so thank you for that hot Also, thank
you for your hot tip about salami on the routebird.

Speaker 9 (37:40):
We'll talk about that at another time.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yes, I can't wait. Very good. Okay, that recipe will
be on the news talks he'd be website. Enjoy the
one an a MP show. We'll catch you again next week,
Nicky Wick I cooked with us this.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Morning inside Scoop on All you Need to Know Saturday
Morning with Jack dam News Talks.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Jack.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
As a resident of Points Chevalier, I'm loving replacing some
of my weekly commutes. I can now commute to work
in the same time that it takes me to get
to work in my car. But with the added benefit
of getting some fresh air, some son on my face,
getting my heart rate up for twenty minutes, and saving
money on fuel. The new bike lanes in my area
are great, and I also have no problem riding on
the main road or using side streets where there isn't

(38:22):
available space. As someone who loves his car, I now
also have become someone who loves his bike. Good on you, Ben,
That's the right attitude. I reckon. You can love both.
It's not an either or it can be an and ant.
As far as I'm concerned, I'm going to get tomorrow
your feedback. After ten o'clock this morning, heaps and heaps
of messages through on cycling just to try and save

(38:45):
a little bit of cash in this uncertain time. After
ten o'clock on news talks, he'd be we'll look at
Louis Theroux in the Manisphere. There's some big changes coming
to Google Maps that I've got to tell you about,
probably the biggest changes in like ten or fifteen years,
I reckon to Google Maps, So stick around for that.
Going to tell you all about that now. Feature interview
Jordan Luck from the Exponents right after the ten o'clock New.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Use a cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning
with Jack team You's talks at me.

Speaker 13 (39:19):
Let me you know.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
I'm hurting for you. It seems now that it's sober,
but there is nothing I can do.

Speaker 14 (39:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (39:35):
What does love do that zoon?

Speaker 4 (39:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 15 (39:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Born out of the three more than forty years ago,
the Exponents are Kiwi rock legends have lodged the sound
indelibly in the national psyche under a guaranteed play at
the pub or a summer barbecue. You know, once upon
a time, I was a twenty first DJ, honestly best

(40:04):
job overhead, and I reckon I was to go back
and look through the playlists of those years, about eighty
percent of the Knights would have finished with this song.
Later this month, the Exponents are going to reunite on
stage in front of more than twenty five thousand for
the Symphony Festival, and Exponents front man Jordan Luck is
with me this morning, killed her.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
Good morning, Good magic day.

Speaker 12 (40:25):
Jack.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
How are you, sir?

Speaker 2 (40:26):
I'm very well. Thank you. You sound very upbeat given what
you've been through over the last couple of weeks. Deare
I ask have you got dry feet this morning?

Speaker 5 (40:34):
I do, right, humming gun boots.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Well, that's the key. I'll tell you what I'm going
to ask about all of that, because you have really
been through it recently. I'll ask about all of that
in a couple of minutes. But let's start off with symphony.
So how does it feel to have the band back
together for an event of the site.

Speaker 16 (40:52):
That's how it feels. Feels very excited about this one.
I mean, obviously it's an Exponents kig, so that's kind
of odd for a start. We only do a handful
of shows and really looking forward to it. Yeah, it's
always intriguing playing with see those younger fellas.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah, so how does it actually work? Explain the kind
of mechanics of it to us?

Speaker 16 (41:17):
Well, I suppose in a serious way expose us played
back in April twenty twenty three when we did we
did a tour. Yeah, and of course that that that
entails the whole production, the whole lot.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
Organizationally.

Speaker 16 (41:37):
Yeah, we had got a weak rehearsal down in Aerrow
Town and then well then the then the logistics of
it are just larger. You know, you're doing concert halls
and yeah, but this one just walk in, walk out?

Speaker 5 (41:54):
What But yeah, a fabulous show to be involved with.

Speaker 16 (42:00):
I mean faith Less and Black Seeds and yeah, really excited.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
It's gonna it's gonna be amazing and amazing event and
so so like talk to us about the kind of
symphony side of things. Have you been to synphony gigs before?

Speaker 12 (42:13):
No?

Speaker 16 (42:13):
And that's another reason why I'm thrilled. I've not seen
a show.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Oh wow, what have you heard?

Speaker 16 (42:26):
Just that people that have done the shows.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
I think there was a.

Speaker 16 (42:30):
New premouth one that folk raved about a while back,
and yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
It's I mean that they're a real experience thing. I
think one of the things that's amazing about them too
is they kind of kind of cut across generations. Not
that the exponents don't. I feel like you guys could
say that as it is anyway, but you know what
I mean, like it's you sort of you're you know,
people from all different generations can kind of connect over
the music and find their own thing with it very much.

Speaker 5 (42:58):
So yeah, a genre crossing Yeah enterprise.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, so you, like I said, so, you did that
big tour in twenty twenty three, and what did that
experience tell you about the place that the Exponents still
hold in New Zealand music fans hearts.

Speaker 5 (43:18):
And well, we've got a rehearse.

Speaker 16 (43:23):
With the black band Boom Bash. We're just on fire,
consistently jigging up and down the nation. But Exponents, Yeah,
we have Brett Adams on board. But Brian Jones, Harry
David Gen Yeah, we will go back together. I mean
we see each other occasionally, but.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
Not that often.

Speaker 16 (43:46):
Yeah, and then yeah, we get locked into a rehearsal
room and yeah, it's work in the sense that it
depends on how much everyone remembers. And mind having said that,
with a very very short set, how short.

Speaker 5 (44:06):
I think we're affording the net maybe? Oh yes, so
we could do who Loves to Victoria? Well do this
to me and Jaz's odyssey.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
I don't think you don't think he's going to be
upset about that seat list. It's going to be it's
going to be a type. It's going to be a
type forty minutes. So I'm sure you're gonna you get
to come out of course, Yeah, yeah, yeah, bang so
So when you're in that rehearsal room, though, describe that
to us a little bit like you see that you
see it it's work working that it's working that it's

(44:39):
not fun or working.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
That honestly, Jack is great fun.

Speaker 16 (44:46):
Because people well it's intriguing because folk may not be
used to a section or actually just everyone does still play,
but playing together that's a different chemistry. That's always intriguing.
And ponents were always volatile kind of unit.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Anyway, has that changed it all over the years?

Speaker 16 (45:16):
I found I found on the tour it was very professional.
Britt Adams probably brings that on board. I was just
earlier in the year I know he was. He was
not only a mocker, but he was also a dude
at the same show. So yeah, he brings a lot
of professionalism to the just this to the affair.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
But it is there, still is the volatility still a
little bit of a component? Is it still there? Deep down?

Speaker 16 (45:49):
I think that can edge itself, will present itself on stage.
That's when yeah, it kind of like, oh, you're looking around,
You're going, has he got this?

Speaker 5 (45:59):
Has he got this?

Speaker 12 (46:00):
Yeah? Yeah that's good.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
Yeah, it's eds your seat stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
I was going to say, in a way you kind
of you don't want to stamp it out. Ah, Like
that's the that kind of that volatility might be the
secret source. That might that might be another word for
X factor in a way.

Speaker 16 (46:19):
I concurt that really made the live shows during the
tour in twenty three definitely.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Yeah, you're listening to Jack Tame. I'm speaking with Jordan
Luck ahead of the Exponent's performance at the Symphony Festival.
So when was the last time you reckon you played
in front of twenty five thousand people?

Speaker 16 (46:39):
Gosh, I'm thinking that would be for the band together
for the gosh, it was after the first earthquake. Yeah,
I think it was mid November twenty ten and everyone
I think there was one hundred and twenty thousand sort
of pre system it.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 16 (47:00):
That was christ was just so optimistic, you know, rebuild
was happening, that no one had.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
Had lost their life.

Speaker 16 (47:10):
Yeah, after the first quake and it was just really positive.
And then gosh, of course the second one hit.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yeah, yeah, and then and then everyone's lives changed and
my gosh, you I mean you are still in it.
So you are in Little River For people who don't
know Canterbury and Banks Pninsula super well, if you're driving
from christ Church to kat or Little Rivers before just
before you get to the big hill. So you go
go through Ti Tapo, you kind of skirt around. Well,

(47:37):
you know, I know it super well, it's my old
stomping ground. So but people might know Little River because
Little River became a kind of big river, didn't it?
Last month? With these with these floods. Yeah, it's flooded.

Speaker 16 (47:52):
I've been here since twenty sixteen. It's flooded five times.
It backs up from Lake Forsyth, but this time it
was coming down from the hills. One of the rivers breached,
wiped out two of our rooms. That's gone through twelve
maybe forteen different homes to various degrees. Yeah, and they're

(48:16):
still cleaning up. Well, I've never seen the.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
Like we were.

Speaker 16 (48:22):
It was like being in a boat surrounded by water everywhere,
and with two rivers actually either side of us. But
the weird it was we had a moat actually but
without a drawbridge for two days. But yeah, you just
didn't know where where the current where the torrents we're

(48:44):
going to go, and you'd think it was receding the
water levels, but then it would rise back up because
something else further upstream had had happened. And yeah, it
was I mean exciting to it in adrenaline.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah, way, but.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Sort of as in the moment and tay. But then
you know, like and we learned this in the earthquakes too.
It's the kind of days and weeks afterwards when you're
still still sealing, still dealing.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
With all the.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
All the mess and the cells and the damage and
everything else, and you're exhausted, and you know, lots of
other people in other parts of the country, etcetera. They've
kind of moved on and they're on to the next thing.
It can it can be a really it can be
a really difficult thing to experience.

Speaker 16 (49:30):
Absolutely no power, no sewerage. We've been lucky in that respect.
Christ it's earthquake, I mean five weeks, six weeks. Yeah,
it's happening. We saw during rock Band going through s Valley,

(49:50):
the vineyards there, gabriel just Auckland with after Gabrielle the
blooming homes that you'd never think would ever have seen
water flooded out basements and yeah, Motoracre with my mum,
my mum is their roads still wiped out, sort of

(50:14):
in between Cherry and yeah, at the bottom of the
able Tasman train.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Just happens all the time. This is so much. Yeah, yeah,
the one in a hundred years.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
That's kind of wow. That one hundred years came up quickly.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, yeah, it's a it's it's a pretty worrying thought. Really.
So is your place okay?

Speaker 16 (50:37):
Now it's try probably moving. No, I wouldn't be able to.
I can't estimate it. Very lucky Farmer's Mutual Group have
been very good. Yeah, we'll see probably, I don't know,
actually months maybe hopefully.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah, I really hope it's all right. And I'll tell
you what it'll be. It'll be nice just to as
great as it'll be to have everything at home sorted
and settled and dry and warm and all that stuff.
I can imagine that actually getting out of the valley
just a little bit and and putting on some shows.
Might it might be a little nice distraction.

Speaker 16 (51:15):
Yeah, we've we've got we've got into the actually two
shows in the road with the trom I'm grown. Yeah
it's good. And then the Exponent's Symphony.

Speaker 12 (51:23):
Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
It's going to be amazing. Well, look, we're delighted to
speak with you. Really really looking forward to the Symphony Festival.
It's gonna be it's going to be an extraordinary thing
to behold. Good luck with everything at home, keep your
chin up and we look forward to speaking soon.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
Well, Loving, thank you so much, Jack, Thank you for your.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Time, so good Jordan. Luck from the Exponent. So symphony
is next weekend. You can get tickets at symphony dot com.
And of course it's Symphony not Symphony, so s y
n t h O n Y synthhony dot com. We'll
make sure we put a link in the details up
on the news talks. He'd be website as well. Now

(51:59):
before eleven o'clock and news talks, we're in the garden
Ah and we have a curious question that we are
going to be posed our personal finance expert this morning.
The question is this, can you save too much? I
mean you would think no, but Yin we said, well,
actually maybe sometimes savings aren't actually working for you in

(52:21):
the way that some other investments might. So we're going
to ask her about that very shortly. I'll get tomorrow
your feedback regarding cycling as well. If you're just turning
on the radio this morning before ten o'clock, I was
talking about this situation in the Middle East and petrol
prices et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and saying that
maybe a few more of us, if we were totally honest,
could look at some of the journeys we do in
our cars and actually choose to ride our bikes instead.

(52:45):
And I was saying that, personally, honestly, cycling is just
such a joy. I cycle to work. The boys at
my place cycle, so I take my one year old
on little seat that clips onto my bike. The nine
year old rides his bike to school. Jack, we're gold
card holders, says Robin. We moved from crusty ten speeds
to e bikes. Let me tell you it is a
whole new world, so much fun. Go you, Thanks, Robin.

(53:08):
I'll get to morow your feedback shortly ninety two ninety
two if you want to send us as textus twenty
one past ten. Next up, we're going to tell you
about the brand new Louis Theroux special. It's screen time time,
not on.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Your weekend, off the right way Saturday Morning with Jack
Dame us.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Talks twenty three minutes past ten on news Talk ZB,
which means it's screen time time if you are looking
for something good to watch or stream from the comfort
of your place this weekend. Carl Pushman has his recommendations
for us. Get a Carl, Good morning Jack. Let's begin
with the latest special from Louis Theroux. Tell Us about

(53:48):
Louis Theroux Inside the Manisphere.

Speaker 12 (53:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (53:52):
I was really excited for this one because if there's
anyone capable of not only going inside the Manisphere but
then escaping and tact out the other side, it's Louis. Now,
if you don't know the Manisphere, this is the name
given to the podcasts and social media communities that champion
this toxic idea of masculinity. It's really poisonous stuff, just
horrifically misogynistic and as we see, exploitative of its fans.

(54:17):
And what makes it so dangerous is that it paraded
under the banner of self improvement helping, claiming to help
men get financially independent and rich and get super fit
and all that kind of things, which you know, self
improvement is good, but this takes an incredibly dark, dark turn,
and you know, it's scary how massively popular it's become.

(54:39):
The documentary shows thirty four year old kids running up
to these four Manisphere influences that Louis spend time with
asking for self east and buzzing around with you know,
genuine excitement at meeting these guys, and it's really worrying,
especially as a parent. You know, if you're a parent
of a young boy, you don't want them going anywhere
near this stuff because the views and the ideas are

(55:00):
just horrible. And if you're the mother of a daughter,
I mean a father, a parent of a daughter, it's
just as bad because these guys are teaching young men
just awful, awful behaviors and ideas and philosophies, so you know,
it's not pleasant stuff at all. Louis goes in and

(55:21):
you know, he's the master of giving people enough rope
to hang themselves. And what I loved about this documentary
in particular is that this time he's dropped his bafflement.
You know, that's sort of his stick. You know, he
looks all surprised and all what's gone here, and does
it that way. This time he's a bit more hard edged,
and he sort of goes in a little bit more

(55:42):
aggressive in exposing these guys, you know, and they're all
puffed up and acting as alpha as they can around him,
and he just deflates them with you know, a single
line or quip and sometimes just a smirk is enough
to completely derail them. It's really brilliant stuff. So, you know,
he's Louie's just just great and he is just there

(56:06):
taking you know, taking them down. But in that Louis
through way, which is just wonderful to see. Yeah, they
don't really know what to make of them, actually, and
the documentary shows heaps of their social media footage where
they're talking to their Instagram followers, whatever, and just freaking
out about their interactions with them while still trying to

(56:26):
come across as these big, alpha, alpha manly men. So yeah,
in that regard, it's great. It's really impactful, and it's
a really powerful documentary. But at the end of it, sadly,
Louis doesn't have any answers really for how to combat
the stuff or how to take it on. He shows
that laughing at them is very effective and works, but

(56:50):
they're so big now that the audience doesn't know we're
laughing at them, and that's where it all sort of
there's no answer, which maybe it's that's unfair to think
he could provide, but it would have been good just
to have a little bit more depth in there still
and engaging and engaging what so I highly recommend.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Yeah, okay, it sounds interesting. It's sort of like, yeah,
you wonder sometimes too if mocking people like this actually
ends up just contributing to the you know, to the
issue or to the phenomenon a, so that that'll be
really interesting. I can't wait to see it. As soon
as I saw he was doing the Manisphere, I was like, yeah,
that's going to be a bit of me. So that
is point you made. Well, I think we've lost you there.

(57:35):
Hang on as you can, car. We will see if
we can get your back up and running. In just
a moment we are, You're there, We've got this girl,
I don't know. Suddenly there's the Gremlins and the Fine
Line today. So that's lowly through inside the Manisphere. That's
on Netflix. Speaking of Louise or Lewis, tell us about
DTF Saint Louis. This is on Neon.

Speaker 17 (57:58):
Yes, Now, if you know the acronym, it's a very
attention grabbing title. However, I'll explain it for more innocent
people like yourself there, Jack, it's a more explicit way
of saying that you're open to engaging in relations of
an adult nature piece together diplomatic. Yes, yes, the risky
titled you know it appealed, But rather it was the
show's stars, Justin Bateman and David Harbor that made me

(58:21):
want to watch this thing. You know, put those guys
into anything, and I'm going to give it a shot.
It's an HBO show and it's a bit of a
genre bender. It's a darkly comedic crime series that mashes
midlife malaise with a murder mystery. In that regard, it
is very unique and it has that same vibe as
a Coen Brothers film, which you know, I that's high praise.
I love the Coen Brothers and this has that same

(58:43):
those deep realistic characters, but everyone's got their quirks to
them and it's a little bit offbeat and weird. So
it's yeah, it's really great. It follows the friendship and
love triangle that develops between a local weatherman played by
Justin Bateman, it's on screen sign language interpreter, which is
David Harbor, and the interpreter's wife. This is all sparked

(59:04):
when the two men start in their words floring the
hook up app the Indian saying Lewis. Things spiral from there,
culminating a highly suspicious murder in episode one and this
has been the show introduces two detectives.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
And they.

Speaker 17 (59:19):
Apple dynamic, which really pushes the series forward. Is it
sort of splits into two timelines, the events leading up
to the murder and the present day investigation. These two
investigators are wonderfully dry. It's very very funny. No surprises
are two leagues are great. Justin Bateman is one of
the most likable actors on TV. You just can't help
but like that guy. And here he really works at gift,

(59:41):
introducing a very sleazy side, sort of creepy to his
everyman persona as the Jim hagyesque weather man. In the
show so star David Habe Harber. His portrayal of the
protective dad Jim Hopper made him one of the big
breakout stars of Stranger Things, and here he double downs
as the good natured sign language interpreter. The big irony being,

(01:00:04):
of course, that he's playing a man who onloads a
hook up app to escape a stagnant marriage, which was
actually doing in real life while they filmed this series.
While he was married to pop star Lily Allen, who
then went on to write all about it in great
personal detail in her last album Westin Girl. But we
won't gossip. I'll just say DTF Sat Lewis is really
really good. It's quirky and funny and intriguing. The mystery

(01:00:26):
just keeps you guessing at what's actually going on. And
I will warn that it does live up to the
crude ra eighteen suggestions of its title. So if you're
a bit more of a sensitive nature, you might want
to give it a miss. For everyone else, yeah, I
love it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
It's great. Okay, oh very good. So that's DT Saint Lewis.
That's on Neon's. Houn's very quirky, so my worth a crack.
Thank you very much for that, Carl Carl's first show
of course, Louis throu Inside the man a Sphere that's
on Netflix, and you can hear more from Karl on
his sub stack screen crack.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
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Diamond Diamond, I love the song so Good It's Lady
six and Diamonds. The biggest celebration of local music is
on this weekend Homegrown so the tron for its eighteenth iteration.
So more than sixty Kiwi bands and artists are going
to be playing at the Claudlands Oval in Hamilton today,

(01:01:42):
which is a real testament to the strength of our
music scene. Sixty top local artists playing across seven stages
to a crowd of thirty five thousand people. That is
no small feat. This year's acts include Megastars six, sixty,
Lab Lady six, David Dallas and ver Patrol. And our
music reviewer is going to be there celebrating alongside those

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other thirty four thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine fans.
I hope be with us before midday to give us
the expectations for the festival who he is most looking
forward to as well before eleven o'clock on news talks,
he'd be We're in the garden next up. There's some
big changes are coming to Google Maps. I'm a Google
Maps guy, I'm not an Apple Maps guy, so I'm
a little bit anxious about anything involving that word change.

(01:02:26):
But we will tell you what to expect very shortly,
the headlines and the hard questions.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
It's the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 19 (01:02:34):
The idea of Carlos Days has once again been floated
as a way to deal with the oil issues. Nicola Willis,
Finance Minister, is with us. Are you walking a fine
line between reality and panicking people with this sort of talk?

Speaker 20 (01:02:45):
Yeah, because right now we have guys where the fuels supply,
but we do need to be proactively thinking heat. I
want to be clear, though we've published a national fuel plan,
it has even phases the extreme de non management tool
of Carlos.

Speaker 11 (01:02:59):
Davis right at the end. We're only in phase.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
One at the moment.

Speaker 19 (01:03:02):
None of this is going to happen as if you
won't say, but I will, this thing's over in a
couple of weeks. I'm absolutely convinced me.

Speaker 11 (01:03:07):
Well, I personally want it to be back.

Speaker 19 (01:03:10):
Monday from six am The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Mayley's
Real Estate News Talk ZB twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
To eleven on News Talk s EDB. Google Maps is
getting a new look. It's biggest update in more than
ten years. Our textbook Paul Stenhouse is here with the details.
What is happening to one of my favorite apps.

Speaker 13 (01:03:29):
It's okay, it's only going to be when you're driving
or when you're in this navigation mode.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Okay, So I mean that's quite a critical time, isn't it.

Speaker 15 (01:03:37):
It is, Well, that's why it's good.

Speaker 13 (01:03:38):
So that's why they've made the updates. Because you know,
if you if you don't have the navigation turned on
and someone is just looking at the dot moving down
the road and not telling you to turn left or
right you're supposed to be doing, that's a disaster, isn't it.
That's a relationship over just instantly. So they have made
some really big changes. They've used AO. Of course, they

(01:04:00):
have to create some really cool imagery that takes their
information from street view and their information from satellites and
turn it into what kind of looks like a video game.
And if you've ever seen a Tesla when it's driving,
it kind of is the same thing. It's got the
car in the middle of the screen and it will
show you the road and then it will show you

(01:04:21):
the buildings and the pedestrian crossings and the traffic lights
and the stop signs, all kind of like around your car.
So it's pretty neat. It zooms in and zooms out,
as it kind of needs to. So if you're on
the highway, it will just zoom out, and then when
you're getting close to the exits, it will zoom on
in so you can find your exit. I think it

(01:04:45):
sounds pretty neat. It looks pretty neat. Haven't had the
chance to try it yet. It's launching in the US first,
so it's rolling out here today and then we'll be
coming rest of the world. iOS, Android car Play, Android Auto,
all of those places where you use Google Maps.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Right, Okay, So theoretically it should make when you're in
the navigation mode, so you say where I'm going and
you hit start, it should make that like finding getting
the right exit, making the right turn just a little
bit easier, right, that's the goal, that's the theory. Yeah, okay, yeah, well,
you know, I mean, famously, we all love change, especially

(01:05:21):
on Saturday morning. I'm sure we're going to lean into that,
but no, I can't. I'm interested to see how that's
going to go down. Hey, a surprise reversal from Meta,
the company which owns Facebook and Instagram. Instagram chats are
no longer going to be encrypted.

Speaker 13 (01:05:36):
Yeah, so from May eighth, an alert popped up in
the app. You might have seen it if you use Instagram,
Instagram Chats, Instagram Messenger. I don't know what it's called
direct messages, but it says that you'll need to download
your chats before May eight, otherwise I assume you're going
to lose them or they'll be deleted by Meta. Now
Meta had not really said why this was. They've since

(01:06:00):
put out a statement and said it's because very few
users were using it, so that's why they've decided to
get rid of it. But it's an interesting decision for
a number of reasons. One WhatsApp, who they bought and
also own and run, that sort of has privacy and
an encryption at its core, right, So that's that's been

(01:06:23):
really important to WhatsApp. Messenger in twenty twenty three got
encrypted messages end to end by default, so you have
to turn that on. So Instagram got around the same time.
It's just so weird that you would then say, of
the three products we have that do messages, Instagram will
no longer be encrypted. I just found that a little strange.

(01:06:46):
Now they are kind of you know, there's certainly the
two camps of right encryption good, good for privacy. On
the flip side, it is, you know, the common concern
is that it's bad for things like you know, abuse,
and it's bad for things like child pornography, and it's
bad for things like terrorism because the authorities and the

(01:07:09):
platforms can't see anything it's encrypted into.

Speaker 15 (01:07:11):
End, it's the whole point.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Point.

Speaker 15 (01:07:13):
Yeah, that's the whole point.

Speaker 13 (01:07:14):
But obviously that leads to issue. So there are some
laws going through or have been passed in the UK
and the EU that maybe this is to do with.
But again it's just strange that it's happening on Instagram
but not whats happened the messenger?

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Yeah right, okay, Hey, thank you very much, Paul.

Speaker 13 (01:07:30):
Maybe it's a wait and see.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Yeah, indeed, thank you very much. Paul Stenhouse is our
text bird of course after eleven o'clock on News Talks here,
but we've got our book picks for the week. There
is a book I love the sound of It's a
biography about Rasputin, but one very unlike any of you
might have come across before, one of history's most extraordinary characters.
So I'm going to tell you more about that after

(01:07:52):
eleven o'clock make sure you hang around for that. Right now.
It is eighteen to eleven. Our personal finance expert is
in next with a big question, can you save too much?

Speaker 7 (01:08:04):
No better way to kick off?

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
You can't then with Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Team
News Talk ZV.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
This morning on you Talk ZIBE, we've been talking about
cycling as a way to get a bit of exercise,
as a way to get to your destination, maybe slightly
faster if the traffic can be bad at your place,
but also as a way of saving a few bucks
on petrol. Jory sent me a note to say Jack,
e bikes involved plenty of peddling. Whoever it was who
texted you earlier this morning obviously doesn't understand it. In

(01:08:35):
order to ride an e bike you have to peddle.
It just assists you. I love my e bike, best
purchase ever. Thank you very much for that. Lisa Dudson,
our personal finance expert, in this morning with a big question,
can you save too much? Good morning Lisa, Good morning Jack.

Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Very well? Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
It's a funny question because usually we think of people
not saving nearly enough, but actually there are some who
take it too far. In the opposite direction.

Speaker 21 (01:09:00):
Yes, absolutely, And to be said, most of my career respent,
I'm hustling people along to save more. But I've had
a couple of instances where people have been very very
careful about how they've saved, and it's manifesting a couple
of ways. So one, I've seen a group of people
that have saved super super hard, worked really hard as
well in quite long hours, get to retirement and maybe

(01:09:22):
an early retirement, and then they go, great, we've got
a great amount of savings with me tire a little
bit early. And then they go, now what because they've
spent their life been so careful with money that they
haven't spent a lot of money on.

Speaker 11 (01:09:34):
Messily.

Speaker 21 (01:09:34):
Sometimes family experiences hobbies and they don't know what to
do with themselves. And you know, I've had a couple
of situations with men in particular, who's the wives says,
you know a lot, honey, you've been home, you know,
you've retired through weeks and we don't find something to do.
We're going to get divorced because with you driving me
nuts around the house all day underneath my feet, so
you know, you see it. But al though you know
those situations. The other thing that I've seen more young

(01:09:57):
people on the opposite side is the fire movement, which
is you have you come across.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
That, Yeah, I have. I follow a couple of fire blogs.
So this is basically people who work really hard, save
heeps young and try and retire early.

Speaker 21 (01:10:11):
Right, yes, absolutely, so it's financial independence, retire early, and
so you know a lot of people are super super
careful with their money, like I've said, examples at the
extreme examples where you know they'll soak their shavers in
olive oil because they'll last twice as long. And you know,
I mean, you know, they're going to recycling botex to
buy clothes, which I think is a really good thing

(01:10:31):
for the environment and for your pocket.

Speaker 11 (01:10:33):
But they're doing it so doing it really really tough.

Speaker 21 (01:10:36):
And they might have enough money that they retire in
their you know, midsdooties or even mid forties, like quite young.
But then what they're finding is that they've got just
enough to retire. But now they've got all this time,
their friends are still working and they've got time, so
they want to do hobbies and they go, well, we've
got enough to cover our bills, but we don't actually

(01:10:57):
have any money to travel or do a lot of
these hobbies and then they kind of go, hmm, it
kind of didn't work out the way that I expected.
They've come across that quite a lot, have you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Come across that. That's interesting. So the people have actually
kind of the thought that achieving the dream and I mean,
it's an amazing thing to be able to you know, get
to that get to that point. But actually they've realized that.
I personally think that maybe having having a bit of work,
and I am a bit of a workaholic, but it's
it's quite nice to have that purpose in your life.

Speaker 11 (01:11:25):
That and that's there in life.

Speaker 21 (01:11:27):
The challenge, and that's what I found with a lot
of people is partly, you know, they've got no one
to play.

Speaker 11 (01:11:31):
With because mostly friends are still working.

Speaker 21 (01:11:33):
And then they go out and the okay, well I
want to go fishing, and once I've done six months
of fishing couple days a week, they're going to go
well onmin a bit over that.

Speaker 12 (01:11:39):
Now.

Speaker 11 (01:11:39):
Yeah, I'm a board of doing that.

Speaker 21 (01:11:41):
So and I think having a purpose in life is
super super important, and it's trying to find a balance
between you know, what you're safe for now and what
your saying has been today and what your same has
been for the future, because saving essentially matters, but so
does live, right.

Speaker 11 (01:11:57):
So you don't want to put off too much living.
But on the other side of.

Speaker 21 (01:12:00):
You don't want to have too much living today and
then have no.

Speaker 11 (01:12:03):
Living in the future because you've got no money.

Speaker 21 (01:12:04):
So you really want to a reasonable balance of both things.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Yeah, be able to strike a happy media maye. That
makes a lot of sense, actually, and sometimes people just
need a weep bit of a nudge either way.

Speaker 11 (01:12:16):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 21 (01:12:17):
And I think putting goals in place too, you know,
I like sadings thinking about emergency saving. So car breaks down,
you've got a bit of money short term, which are
things like going on holiday, medium term house deposit, long
term retirement.

Speaker 11 (01:12:30):
So I think, you know, those four buckets are quite
a good way to save.

Speaker 21 (01:12:34):
And I love people putting goals around it, like, you know,
specific purposes for saving, because I think when you have
a specific purpose.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Save Yeah, yeah, totally.

Speaker 21 (01:12:44):
And that's what it's about at the end of the
day's motivation.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Right, Oh, very good, Hey, thank you, Lisa, really appreciate it.
Personal finance expert Lisa Dudson with us this morning. It's
just coming up to ten to eleven. Non news stalks,
it'd be we're in the garden next gardening with steel
sharp autumn deals on tools, builth right, real climb passer
man in the garden.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
Good morning, A very good morning to you, Jack, coming
to you from girl who or a pack? How good
is that?

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
And oh how good You've been in the ones for
a few days, have you?

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
Yep? I've been here most of most of the week,
mostly with school kids.

Speaker 11 (01:13:18):
And all that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
And today between ten and one it's the locals that
can come and see us and cut all my weather
and and my oh my am I frog. I've got
a live frog with me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
You're traveling with a frog?

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Well, yeah, I guess it depends how you travel with them,
but yeah, you're just got to keep a close on them.
How big is your frog? Is it a New Zealand frog?

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
Yeah, no, it's just Australian. But it's full grown. It's nice. Yeah,
And we get it to walk around in the and
all the kids try to dig.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
And the frog and the water get along.

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
Oh certain they do. Oh yeah lovely. But that's not
what I was going to talk about I was going
to talk about the fact we finally got some some
black field crickets really make a noise. Did you notice
that at night?

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Yeah, they It feels like they're kind of late in
the year. Is that Is that weird? Am I wrong?

Speaker 11 (01:14:13):
There?

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Am I late in the season for the cricket?

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
No, they normally get here at this time of the year, right, Okay,
the cicadas are getting bit slow. We've had a fabulous
year of cicado so far. But I thought about talking
about the backfield crickets because they can do a bit
of damage in the garden too. And yeah, and that's
that's about. So they're actually having a go and talking
to their friends and all that sort of stuff and
doing the mating for the next lot. But the way

(01:14:38):
to control them is a bit is actually quite funny,
because these things live in little holes in the ground
during the day, you know, on your lawn if you like.
They made little holes all out of the place, right, yeah.
And what you then can do is very simple. You
pour some hot water with good dish of dish washing

(01:14:59):
liquid in it. The dish washing liquid gets their eyes
very sore and they go like holy and they come
out of their hole on the top and if you've
got a good day with some that hot air and
the hots, you know, raised from the sun, basically fry
them to stuffery. It's so that is a really cool

(01:15:23):
way of getting a bit of black Field crickets.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
It's sounds a bit rough for them, those medieval almost right.

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
Sorry, mate, they're they shouldn't be there. So microwave oven
and the other thing, and that's much more fun for
the kids to see the singer that Katie did, which
is in the afternoon and evening. It's beautiful noisy thing
and it rubs the edges up, its wings together and
it does all that sort of stuff. And then when
you finally find that the kids got Kati did it,

(01:15:54):
that's Katie did it. And that's basically what it is. Really.
They like ventriloquism because you can't find them unless you
know where they are. But because they can, they can
throw their voice hard to find. The kids found it
lovely to try and find them out ventriloquism. That's great and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Keep yeah, yeah, so that there's the green. They're almost
grasshopper like a Katie did, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
Exactly, and they're beautiful things.

Speaker 15 (01:16:18):
Yeah, very good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Hey, I'm just giving you sort of a semi regular updates.
The pomegranate is still attached to the pomegranate tree, so
that's good news.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
And I've just got to I've got to try and
work out exactly when to pick it. It's too early
just yet, it's too early, just it's not quite red enough.
But maybe we can do some research and try and
try and get a good huge because I'm not sure
if it's you know, if it's going to remain warm
enough in Auckland for it for for it to sort
of ripeno the to the appropriately all like it wood

(01:16:50):
in the Middle East. But maybe it will. I'm not
too sure.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
Yeah, as will. I'm quite sure it will because I've
heard from other people that that that can happen. It
doesn't have to be that hop because most of the
growths has already taken place. Yeah, now it's not finally
soothling it out, but I'll have a look at that,
because I think you can feel as when you touched
them that becomes you can easily pinch him a bit. Yeah,

(01:17:13):
I mean, is it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Really It's got a really robust stork. So the stork
connecting the pomegranate to the tree is almost like a
branch in itself. It's really thick, and so I don't
think you would rip it off like you would, you know,
a plum more a lemon or something like that. But
I yeah, but I want to make sure that I
pick at it exactly the right time because there is
a lot of expectation on this pomegran There's been a

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lot of high.

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
And I'm going to put the pressure on my favorite,
my favorite helper, Julie, who was in the one of
those thorse gardeners people that knows everything, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
What, I'm perfect. Yeah, yeah, that sounds great. Hey, thank
you so much. Travel home safe. We'll catch you very soon.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
Bye bye.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
There there's route time passed in the garden for us,
almost news time on news storksz'd be after eleven o'clock.
We're going to take you to home ground Massive Weekend
and the tron Big Weekend and toduing it as well
in our travel segment will give you some top take
on toting his best bites and sights, and a sustainability
expert will tell us about sustainability in the bedroom. It's

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almost eleven news time on News Talks EDB.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
Saturday morning with Jack team keeping the conversation going through
the weekend news Talks EDB.

Speaker 22 (01:18:47):
More.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Inn know, if you're just joining us this morning, it
is so good to have you here. I've been playing
with fire since first thing this morning, since nine o'clock,
since I walked into the studio, did my mini mini me's,
many mini mars, many mini me's for the vocal exercises.
I've been playing with fire because I've been advocating for cycling.
I know, madness, isn't it absolute madness in this day

(01:19:10):
and age. He's serious, Jack. We had the industrial Revolution
so you could ride your bike to work. No, No,
here's here's my theory in a nutshell. Right, My theory
in a nutshell is that people would actually who haven't
biked in a long time, would be surprised at how
much they enjoyed cycling if they just cycled a little bit.
But also that if all of us were honest, we

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would have to admit that some of the journeys we
take in our cars we could probably do on our bikes. Now,
that'll differ for different people, right, There'll be some people
who say, you know, I live in the country, and
I've got eleven children and my daily commuters four hundred
kilometers and that's the only time I ever travel anywhere.
And sure, cycling might not work for you, but I

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reckon that most of us, if we're totally honest, could
do the occasional journey by bike instead of by driving.
So heaps and heaps and heaps the messages in this morning, Jack,
I live in the countryside. I'm a fifteen drive to
work or a forty five minute bike ride. With the
idea of carless days being floated by some people to
help in a fuel crunch, well, I reckon that's going

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to screw over a lot of those working and living
in the countryside. That actually is a very good point
if there is some sort of a fuel crisis, And
let's just remind everyone that at the moment, the government
says we've got fifty days of fuel, so there's no
need to be too concerned at the moment. But if
there was a big crunch, hypothetically, it wouldn't necessarily be
one that affected people evenly. You know, there are some

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people who wouldn't be that affected. There are some people
and businesses that would be hugely affected. And obviously if
you are in a rural community, there's a good chance
that you would feel the pinch a whole lot more
than others. There's person is Jack. I agree with you
with what you said about bikes and on cutting down
where people can on car use makes total sense as
far as I'm concerned. Here's the thing. As people gets

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more expensive, this will save you money. If you can
just take a couple of journeys on your bike you'd
otherwise be driving. It'll save your money.

Speaker 5 (01:21:05):
Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
I had dinner with an old friend and his Dutch
wife who have been living in Amsterdam for thirty five years.
Their attitude to both cars and bikes was so far
away from ours. They would preferred ride five ks into
town into the CBD rather than drive or bus. I
also e bike around Auckland, and we see this tension
a wee bit. Sometimes we come across pedestrians who often

(01:21:26):
react with a little bit of fear when they come
across cyclists, and the sheard parts hello, please walk on
the left, I reckon. Actually, there's probably a bit of
an education that can be had for everyone, whether it's pedestrians, cyclists, drivers,
when it comes to when it comes to cycling, so
I appreciate that S ninety two ninety two if you
want to send us a message this morning. It is
a massive weekend of events, so you've got Pacifica in

(01:21:48):
christ Church and in Auckland in Western Springs. I think
in Auckland today Christich Hagley Park absolutely fantastic, massive, massive event.
There are Homegrown Wild Foods on the West Coast, Homegrown
in Hamilton this weekend. And speaking of Homegrown, our music
reviewer is heading to Homegrown alongside thirty five thousand other

(01:22:11):
fans this weekend, so he will tell us about the
gigs or the performances that he is most looking forward
to a whole range of kiwacts who will be performing
there as well as that. Beforeer day today we'll catch
up with our book reviewer, who has two fantastic reads,
including a book I'm really interested in about Rasputin, so
she'll be with us shortly. Right now, it is eleven
minutes past eleven, Jack Team, and I know it sounds

(01:22:34):
super ex rated, but I promise it's not. We're joined
by our sustainability commentator, Kate Hall, who's looking at sustainability
in the bedroom this morning killed her good morning. You know,
my wife and I were doing a bit of a
spring clean over summer, which I know is slightly delayed,
but we were doing that thing where you move the
bed and you get under with the vacuum cleaner and
make sure that every little bit of dust has been

(01:22:54):
picked up in the bedroom. And she was like, oh, well,
we're we're gonna have to replace the mattress sometimes soon
because it's like six or seven years old. And I
was like, oh, is that a thing, and it's a
good quality mattress and she was like, yeah, it's definitely
a thing you've got to You've got to replace your mattress.
But this morning you are taking my wife to task.
You have tips on being more sustainable in the bedroom.

Speaker 23 (01:23:15):
Yes, I do, I do. I know exactly we should
get your mattress. Actually, okay, we'll start there with mattresses,
because there's a lot of different things we can do
in the dead droom to be more sustainable. Comfy is
a really great New Zealand brand and they actually, you know,
like you said, when you look at your mattress and
you're ow, it's only seven or eight years old, you know,

(01:23:35):
is that mattress going to go. We're not just going
to throw it in the in the tip? Are we
company actually take the mattress. They partner with all the
heart end z and they take it from you when
they're dropping new one off. You can organize to that.
And it means that they can reuse the mattress, take
it apart if they need to, or give it to
a better home.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Oh cool, okay, so they even if your previous mattress
isn't a company mattress, they do that. Yes, yep, Oh
that's good.

Speaker 23 (01:24:01):
So we just got a new company mattress. It's awesome.
They have a showroom in Auckland, and yeah, it's it's
a great system because I mean a mattress you kind
of you don't know what to do with it. It's
a big, huge, huge thing. And yeah, it get gets
a new hunt.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
And as the name would imply, are they indeed comfy?

Speaker 23 (01:24:22):
They are comfy, very comfy. I mean it's different obviously,
I don't know if you're a soft.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Or I like a firm mattress.

Speaker 23 (01:24:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I've got that. They've got
that for you very good.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Should you be rotating your mattress? Is that a thing?

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
Yes?

Speaker 23 (01:24:37):
Absolutely, you know when we talk about looking after things
well with your mattress one hundred percent. We've only had
our new mattress for a couple of months now, but
we've already rotated it. So oh ok, we're trying to
get onto that with this new mattress.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
How often are you going to do it?

Speaker 23 (01:24:55):
I think we're going to do it every couple of months.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
And so like you flip it, you totally flip it,
You're not just like spinning it, right, Oh, we spin.

Speaker 23 (01:25:02):
It because obviously it's got like a top and a bottom. Yeah, yeah,
a top and a bottom.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
And so just when you when you, does that mean
that you and your husband like you just end up
sleeping in their groove?

Speaker 23 (01:25:13):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Right, but it's bitter to be sleeping in their groove
than to be sleeping solely in your groove because presumably.

Speaker 23 (01:25:18):
Yeah yeah, well, and I mean term is like much heavier.
He always has a bigger groove.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Yeah, true, yeah, yeah, it's for him as much as
E think. Okay, so that's the mattress. What about the sheets?
What should be doing for sheets?

Speaker 23 (01:25:33):
So sheets aiming for cotton, linen or hemp, I mean,
all of those are quite a different feel, So it
really depends on yeah, what what your preferences. There's even
some bamboo sheets which are really nice, but just the
natural fiber over synthetics is what you're aiming for. Wing possible.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
How do you clean them?

Speaker 23 (01:25:52):
So we wash outs in cold water, I mean anything
thirty degrees or lo It is good just for the
longevity and they only need to be washed in cold
water and a dying them on the line. It's great.
I think we're pretty good at that in New zeal
Ear drying rather than dryers. I think in some parts
of the world having a dryer is just like a given. Yes,

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I think we're pretty pretty good over here. I'd like
to think.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
I know, I know some people who think that, like
because it makes them really crispy, and they don't like
that feeling, and they don't like it with their towels especially,
But they ear dry them and then they just put
them in the dry for like a couple of minutes, okay,
just to give because then it gives them. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
which is which is a good way to kind of
do things.

Speaker 23 (01:26:32):
Makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
I always think too, like when you're if you're drying
it outside and it's proper, properly sunny. You just you
know that it's you know that it's good. You know,
you know that it's dry, and you know that everything's
kind of there's no bacteria left, like there's.

Speaker 23 (01:26:46):
Nothing uv raised, just so much wonders for Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Yeah, exactly. Okay, So so there's a you wash your sheets.
What about the other furniture in your bedroom?

Speaker 23 (01:26:58):
Yep, So again second hand. I'm really grateful that our
bed base is made by my father in law.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
Which is awful cool.

Speaker 23 (01:27:05):
You get to great sickenhand beard bases. Saying with you know,
if I look around my bed drome, my dresser was
inherited from Term's grandmother, a second hand draw from a
neighbor who is moving house. So yeah, all of those
types of things they can you can just get such
good quality. There's some things so like I wouldn't recommend

(01:27:26):
people get from a secondhand shop, you know, like even
a beard mattress. Right, I'm like buy that new you know, villa,
But furniture and things like that, just it's such a
bit of quality and so much more beautiful in my
opinion from second hand.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Yeah, so funny you say that, I especially because there's
so much flat pack stuff that didn't exist fifteen or
twenty years ago, right, or yeah, at least twenty years ago.
I recently, when we had our baby and I sort
of could see that my space in the closet was
being taken by someone else. I thought, oh, I need
a new chest of drawers. But I went and bought

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a second hand chest of drawers, like beautiful, beautiful remu
secondhand chest of draws. It's probably thirty years old but
had been sanded down and oiled and kind of beautifully restored,
and honestly it is the most beautiful, the single most
beautiful piece of furniture in our house. Like I sit there,

(01:28:25):
and I sit there and bet and look at my
chest of drawers, and I'm like, oh my god, look
at the grain on that. Yeah, it's gorgeous, you know,
and so yeah, just so good, and like this is
so much we said for like if you can having
having like solid wood furniture, but also just like this, honestly,
the secondhand they're just as good as new, and they

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are just such.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
A more.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Kind of notable piece of furniture than you wouldn't.

Speaker 23 (01:28:53):
You wouldn't sit there and allows, oh, look at that
grain exactly. Yeah, no one's going to comment on it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
Yeah, yeah, anyway, Okay, so you've got your natural fibers
for your sheets and pillows and stuff. I presume the
same thing applies for sleep well you.

Speaker 23 (01:29:10):
Yes, yep, if you wear it. I mean a lot
of people don't need sleepwear. And that's apparently I heard
a study about how that's actually better to sleep naked. Anyway, Yeah,
I'll find that one and report back. But yeah, natural
fibers when you're when you're sleeping, as you know, you're
lying there for a long time. Unless you have a child,

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you're getting out quite a lot. But yeah, something that's breathable,
like even a like marino like cotton. Yeah, there's so
much better and more sustainable option.

Speaker 16 (01:29:43):
Yeah, very good.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Hey, thank you. All of those tips will be up
on the news talks you'd be website. You can find
kid of course on social media by searching ethically Kate.
See your own is Kate Hall Now sustainability expert Jack.
Every week we turn our mattress around every time we
wash the sheet. It's a really good way to keep
the mattress, even says Craig Good on your cray. That's

(01:30:05):
that's good. Yeah, I suppose, especially if you've got to
pull the mattress out. You know how, if you've got
a mattress and to get the fitted sheet over the mattress,
the best way to do it is actually often to
pull it out from the head board area. That's what
I find anyway. Yeah, that could be a good little option,
but that is very disciplined of you, Craig. Good morning Jack.
I've been a cyclist for a long time. However, having
purchased an e bike a couple of years ago, I

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have to say it has been absolutely transformational, says Carl.
I ride it all the time. I find it really
easy to go places. You can normally just lock it
up directly outside places, and it's quicker than a car
for getting to work. One of the main benefits the
friendly greetings and interactions with other cyclists. Thank you, Carl.
You've actually had on one of my little hacks.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
Carl.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
One of my favorite things about cycling, and I just
feel like this is every time I do it, I
feel like I've kind of like unlocked a secret to
the universe, and I don't understand why other people aren't
doing it. If I'm going to a big sports game
or an event with tens of thousands of people. So
if I'm going to Auckland f C at Go Media Stadium,

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it's maybe more ten or twelve k's from my house.
I will either bike or I'll borrow my wife's e
bike and cycle there. And you can park at the stadium,
so unlike everyone else who's driving out there or catching
the train or whatever, you can go straight to the
stadium and then you can pull it right up outside

(01:31:33):
the stadium two minutes before the game starts. And at
the end of the game, when all the masses are
pouring out everyone's walking to either the train station or
the bus station or to their cars or whatever, you
just get on your bike straight outside and you're on
your way. I just don't understand why more people don't
do it. Same with Edon Park, Big performance there, big
game there, I ride my bike, pull up right outside,

(01:31:56):
lock it up, easy as walk outside, back on the bike,
and you're off. I don't understand why more people don't
do it. It is so so fast. Anyway, thank you
for that ninety two ninety two. If you want to
see me a text like I'll did in a couple
of minutes the best bites and sights in Toadunger. A
travel correspondent will be here very shortly. Travel with Windy
Woo Tours where the world is yours now Mike Yard.

(01:32:19):
These are travel corresponding Good morning, Good morning, Jack. How
are you feeling about this evening? Part of a bit
of a tenth week in the Crusaders camp?

Speaker 7 (01:32:28):
Make Oh?

Speaker 22 (01:32:30):
I know, yes, I think we've all felt like I'm
indulging in a burst of fisticuffs. I'll tell you what, Jack,
If we can't beat the Highlanders tonight, I think we
should take up croquet.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
No, come on, come on, the Highlands are good. They've
been playing really good. Yeah, you don't really need to win.
I don't really need to win.

Speaker 12 (01:32:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
Anyway, Hey, we are focusing on things further north this morning,
the bites and sights that have taken your fancy in
Toadunger and the city center is very much in make
a makeover mode and Todunger at the moment A So,
how's it shaping up?

Speaker 22 (01:33:04):
Well, it's been three years since I was last in
total a Jack, and it's just so uplifting to see
cranes in the sky. I just think that's always a
really good vibe, the glossy sheen of so many brand
new buildings in the CBD, and then you've got the
Civic precincts wider makeover steadily taking shape. So it's all
a colossal work in progress, but some huge improvements are

(01:33:29):
already so apparent, Like the CPD just does not feel
tired or neglected.

Speaker 7 (01:33:35):
Or tatty anymore.

Speaker 22 (01:33:36):
And there must be some serious mullah being invested, both
privately and publicly. But whether you're on the Strand Waterfront
or if you take a stroll down Devenport Road the
main Drag, it just feels so fresh and inviting. And
the thing that really stood out for me Jack also
was the art. A lot of installations, you know, big sculptures, and.

Speaker 7 (01:33:58):
That just sort of adds to that sense of vitality.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
Oh nice. So what's recently opened?

Speaker 22 (01:34:04):
Yeah, well, the major public work and the Civic precinct
will be sort of given staggered openings over the next
two years. But the new boy in town is Toy Toadunger,
which is the transformed art gallery that opened three months ago.
I had a look through it a couple of weeks ago.
It is just such a gorgeously refreshed space. The thing

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that blows you're one when you first walk in is
this soaring cathedral like atrium gallery. So it can host
some really big boy exhibitions. And they've got this quite
quirky exhibition on there at the moment.

Speaker 7 (01:34:39):
Jack.

Speaker 22 (01:34:39):
It's an augmented reality exhibition delving into the origins of
Maldi carving. And it's all been inspired by the way
lavae burrow through wood. It sounds wacky, but with this
ar technology they've tricked it up with it is just
so absorbing.

Speaker 7 (01:34:58):
The kids love it.

Speaker 22 (01:35:00):
So Yeah, the city's magnificent new museum and library they
will open and jo course, but I came thinking, gee,
next to say, post quake christ Church in terms of
an urban rebuild totong, it would be the next biggest,
you know, mega transformation that I can think of in
New Zealand.

Speaker 7 (01:35:19):
It really is quite colossal.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Yeah. Nice, Okay for a dollop of history across tip
Upper Peninsula, you've got a good walking to it to recommend.

Speaker 22 (01:35:28):
Oh my goodness, I would highly recommend you spend a
few hours taking a guided heikoy with Les Millard. He
runs Mana Maldi Experiences and We just casually hopscotched our
way through a treasury of landmark sites across to Papa,
starting with the Elms Mission House, and it's incredibly gorgeous grounds.
There's just so much pre and post colonial history steeped

(01:35:52):
on that site. Obviously gate par beaches, as do all
sorts of hidden gems that Les will take you through
across the peninsula.

Speaker 7 (01:36:02):
But he's absolutely enthralling, and he just seems.

Speaker 22 (01:36:06):
To unpeel the backstory of Tapapa with such grace, intact
and wit.

Speaker 7 (01:36:13):
It is really I must do nice.

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
That sounds really good. How's the mount feeling and looking
in the wake of January's tragedy.

Speaker 7 (01:36:21):
Yes?

Speaker 22 (01:36:22):
Well, Interestingly, Les was one of the leading elders who
led those here each morning during the recovery efforts. I
had a really big chat to them about the whole
mount vibe, and I mean, there is no denying that
the landslide has tinged the mount with this sort of
residual ache.

Speaker 7 (01:36:40):
You kind of feel it when you go there.

Speaker 22 (01:36:41):
There's like a heaviness, a real heavy sense of sadness.
It's still quite raw. But despite that, I mean, it's
such an irresistible pocket of new Zealand. There's no forgetting
about that. You know, it's such a blessed place. And
what really struck me Jack when I was there a
fortnight ago, so many young international tourists who were adding

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their own spontaneous tributes to that public wall of message
just in front of the mount.

Speaker 7 (01:37:08):
So they're struck by it.

Speaker 22 (01:37:10):
And you are really confronted when you see up close
that brutal scar at the base of Moaw, you know
where the lower slope so fatally gave way.

Speaker 7 (01:37:20):
It is quite quite confronting.

Speaker 22 (01:37:23):
But yeah, for all the sadness, don't forget about the mount.
It is an out of the box place.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Yeah, how are the businesses they're doing? Are they still
doing it tough?

Speaker 7 (01:37:34):
Yeah, well that's something that was on my mind.

Speaker 22 (01:37:36):
And the road excess is still restricted on parts of
Adam's air, but it is open on foot. And I
was actually quite eager to support some of those local
businesses that were so heavily impacted by the cordons. So
two specimens. I would suggest Rustica Pizzeria. They are a delight.
They have this seventy two hour Sado base anchoring their pizzas,

(01:37:58):
and I know you don't cheer my fetish for fun
guy jaccam, but I would highly recommend the Tatoo Fatah pizza,
which is slothed and mozzarella roasted mushrooms. And this will
please use smoked paprika, so it's quite a zesty pizza.

Speaker 7 (01:38:15):
And then right.

Speaker 22 (01:38:16):
Next door you've got to go to Copenhagen Cones. This
is that shop that has such a seductive pull because
of it's aroma of those waffle cones that attracts people
for miles that I actually had a snow good the Jack.

Speaker 7 (01:38:31):
I've neither had a snow good, so that's.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Yeah, go on, what do you think it is? Is
it like is it like a you know, like a
crushed ice but done with yogurt.

Speaker 7 (01:38:46):
You're nearly there. It's half snow freeze half yogurts.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
Okay, Oh yeah, yeah that sounds great. Predly sweet asn't mine?

Speaker 7 (01:38:55):
Yeah, very sweet?

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
Yeah, that sounds amazing. So what would you like at
any other like little spots around there for great North?

Speaker 22 (01:39:04):
Yeah, A couple of things are for culinary finesse and
theta I would strongly suggest taking a seat at the
kitchen bar counter at Celera.

Speaker 7 (01:39:14):
They're on Manganui Road and.

Speaker 22 (01:39:16):
They're chefs, they're just wizards and they love playing for
a you know, to the audience, the chef's men you
experience at Celera, it is superb, but you've got to
go really really hungry to do it justice. But there
were some amazing dishes they served jack things like tuna
capaccio with these really small icy cucumber cubes on top

(01:39:39):
of the tuna.

Speaker 7 (01:39:39):
It was amazing.

Speaker 22 (01:39:40):
And then but a buffalo culd on top of that,
and also poached at gemfish, which is probably better known
as kingfish, but gemfish with turmerica fenela and chorizo, just
really good flavors.

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
And is is a Kai still popular?

Speaker 22 (01:39:57):
Oh yeah, this is such a cool place. And I
mean it's a village in Toto. Leza's son runs Isakai
and they have fostered such a red red hot reputation
because it's Maori Japanese fusion cuisine and the sheer plates
are so goddamn good, things like creamed power and prawn

(01:40:19):
dumplings with cauliflower, puro crispy Charlotte's spring onions and chili.

Speaker 7 (01:40:25):
It is just fabulous.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
That sounds fantastic. Okay, great, hey, thank you very much.
Mike really really good to have those tips for Mike's
top bites and sites and toading. I will make sure
that all of his tips and advice and hot spots
are up on the news Talks he'd be website. It
has just gone eleven thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team
on news Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
It'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
That's Harry Styles and Pop. Thanks for your messages. Sharon's
Jacket's amusing to me that people have all of a
sudden realized that older furniture is goodbye. I've been collecting
MU furniture for more than ten years. The quality is
just so much better. I do love some old Demu
or Cody. Some New Zealand native timber furniture is amazing. Honestly,
just solid wood furniture is amazing. I mean it can

(01:41:33):
be a bit more expensive, certainly if you're buying brand new,
it's very much more expensive. But there's so much good
refurbished stuff available now. So yeah, thanks for that. Sharon
twenty five to eleven on News Talks to twelve rather
on Newstalk's Head. Be you Darcy Watergras with us this morning.
Kioder Hello, Jackie. You got Justin Vaughan on the show.
That is going to be a fascinating conversation.

Speaker 14 (01:41:54):
He's a wonderful human being. Justin Vorn, the good Doctor
as we like to call him, former CEO of n
ZID Cricket. He's domicil now over in Australia. We're going
to talk to him plainly, where too for zed where
two for international cricket. This is a huge tangle. It's
cost a lot of people, it's jobs. If you read
the article on Shane Curry en Z Herald and he's

(01:42:15):
gone through some documents that he's found. Apparently the boarders split.
There's a ruckus within that we over loost the CEO
and a couple of other characters. So what happens because
the delete Deloitte report excuse me, apparently is out hasn't
been sighted yet by anyone. We're trying to get our
hands on it. As it's talking about recommendations. What happens
next year? It's a big one. Do we have n

(01:42:36):
Z twenty, do we have supersmash carrying on? Do we
have an adjusted super smash? Do we go and play
big bass cricket? And what happens to the international program.
Therefore the sponsorship from New Zealand Cricket. There are so
many strands to this, so Justin Vaughan will give us
some opinion and try and unpicket for us up after

(01:42:58):
midday and then we'll take calls on Oh, one hundred
and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Oh very good. Do you watch leam morson last night?

Speaker 15 (01:43:03):
Yeah, of course I do.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
Do you think well, I think that it's really hard.

Speaker 15 (01:43:07):
I'm addicted because I shortened.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
That very well, unfeart enjoyable.

Speaker 14 (01:43:16):
I feel for Liam because he qualified thirteen for the
sprint race this afternoon. The issue with that is the
sprint race is fairly hairy. They really go Unfortunately, if
you tangle up your vehicle during that, you've got pretty
much two hours before four hours before qualifying for the
big race tomorrow night. And he's starting in thirteenth position.

(01:43:39):
That is a horrible place to start in the sprint
race as far as the chaos and look, we don't
know he's still had.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
Engines yesterday launches to start.

Speaker 14 (01:43:48):
Even if he does start, it's very very messy. But
he had launched his yesterday after free practice, so that
that Greenlin is still there, but he won't be the
only grim.

Speaker 15 (01:43:58):
There'll be plenty of them over the weekend.

Speaker 14 (01:44:00):
He's returning to where he basically had his last drive
with Red Bull last year before he got on serahtly
drop kicked to the sidelines. But I think that there's
no real point I'm looking back a year and worried
about that. He needs to look over his shoulder and
look at his teammate Harvid Lynn Blados. It's got a
bit of toe about him.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely no. I look forward to so four o'clock,
I think the sprint race starts and then qualifying forward.
Tomorrow's Grand Prix is a few hours later. Eight o'clock.
I think that starts in New Zealand time tonight orkn
FC playing this evening as well. Of course you've got Crusaders,
Highlanders and Christis. Who are you picking for that Crusaders?

Speaker 15 (01:44:34):
Just because I'm a Crusader fan.

Speaker 14 (01:44:36):
When I come to a situation, I can't look at
it and stand back and way up because you can.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
Head and heart.

Speaker 14 (01:44:44):
Once you're a fan, you're always a fan. When I
first started this job decades ago, oh I know.

Speaker 15 (01:44:49):
You've got to sit in the middle. Say you know what.
I'm a fan. I'm not going to I can do both.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
I'm not sure that you can necessarily, Even if you
think that you are being like rational and saying you can,
you know, separate the head in the heart, I'm not
sure that you can necessarily. Can you really tell one
starts and one ends?

Speaker 15 (01:45:05):
No, No, not a few.

Speaker 14 (01:45:06):
Not if you grow up in christ gyms and you
grow up with Read and Black through NPC and then
with the Crusaders, and anyone will know that I moved
to Auckland nearly thirty years ago. I got a career
up here, I've got child up. Everything is about Auckland.
But you cannot get rid of that. You can't take
that Canterbury away. And any cantab will know. And I

(01:45:26):
think a lot of people who move away from their
favorite team they can't shake it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
No, of course, not, of course not. Hey, thank you sir.
Looking forward to this after the Dusky Watercave with us
for weekend sport, right after the midday news on Newstalks,
y'd be before midday. We're going to catch up on
homegrownd as that kicks off this weekend. And as well
as that, we've got your book picks for this weekend.
Our resident petrol Head, our book reviewer, has returned from
Australia the Melbourne Grand Prix and has a couple of

(01:45:54):
great reads to recommend.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
Next Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on
iHeartRadio powered by newstalks.

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
'B eighteen to twelve on newstalks 'DB. This time last week,
book reviewer Katherine Rains was in Melbourne counting down the
minutes to the Melbourne Grand Prix as well. It's now
get a Catherine, Good morning Jack. I know Liam Lawson
didn't have the greatest weekend, but how was it for you?
Did it live up to your expectations?

Speaker 24 (01:46:20):
It sure did. Yeah, it was a great event. Melbourne
does it incredibly well. But yeah, it was just so
much fun to be there and experience it an atmosphere
and everybody there was having such a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:46:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:46:32):
So yeah, no, it was really enjoyable.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
Oh I'm pleased to hear it. Look, you've got two
fantastic sounding reads for us for this weekend, so let's
begin with Better Life by Lionel Schreiber.

Speaker 24 (01:46:42):
So this story unfolds through the eyes of one person,
a twenty six year old man called Nico, and he's
ended up in his mother's basement in this upscale New
York queen's neighborhood, and he's ready to detach from work responsibility.
He has no purpose, and he seems really lost and
feels pretty inconsequential. And Gloria is his Mum's in her sixties,

(01:47:02):
and she kind of directs a lot of her energy
towards strangers rather than her own family. So she'sn't interested
in a traditional role of being a grandmother or surrounded
by her grandchildren. Instead, she's much more interested in what
outside has bring to her life. And she's driven a
lot more by ideology than she is really by what's
going on in her own life. And things in their
lives are about to change though. There's been this initiative

(01:47:24):
from the Mayor of New York, and Gloria applies to
participate in this program, which is to help the immigrants
that are arriving in the state. And she's got the
room and there's a monetary incentive as well. So Martin
from Hondrea Andrea Andreas arrives in their home and initially,
to start with, she's the perfect guest. She's helping with cooking,
and cleaning, and Gloria and her girl's lover, Niko, is

(01:47:48):
not quite so happy. And then visitors of Marten start
to arrive at home, and then her brother arrives, and
there's this real contrast in what's going on and these
traditional family structures that Martine have and what Gloria and
Leko are used to. And it's really eye opening, this
dynamics between sort of modern Western society and this strange

(01:48:12):
moral right that often disguises itself as empathy. And there's
observations of people and communities and institutions and the government,
and there's lots of ideas and concepts that really keep
you thinking and considering long after you've finished the book.
Really interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
Okay, great, So that's better Life by Lionel Shreiver. Tell
us about Rasputin by Anthony Beaver.

Speaker 24 (01:48:34):
So this is nonfiction and it's a fascinating look at
the life of one of Russia's most intriguing residents, a
guy called Gregor Rasputin, and his involvement with the ruling family,
the Romanovs, and he changed the course of history really
and the court of the early nineteen hundreds was in
this grip of all you know, very spiritual and religion

(01:48:56):
was king and the Czara and Zarena Nicholais and Alexander
maintained this belief in the Czar's god given right to
rule and his deep connection with the Russian people. And
you get this portrayal of this dynasty that's really frightened
and isolated and dysfunctional, and it places all its faith
in one man, Resputant, and his story actually is almost

(01:49:18):
completely the opposite of where it begins. He was completely impoverished.
He grew up on the settlement of the banks of
a river, lived in timber houses. His father was a peasant,
and nothing about his early life suggested that he would
become the notorious man that he was. And he made
his way from this peasant upbringing to the center of
Russian power, particularly because the young Tsarevich Alexey suffered from hemophilia,

(01:49:43):
and that was where Russian Resputant asserted his presence and
helped out when court doctors were helpless, and prayed beside
his bed, you know, and Alexandra believes that Resputant had
saved his son, and those consequences were extraordinary, and by
the First World War he's well ingrained in the romanofs
and he's one of the most hated men in Russia

(01:50:04):
by the stage and it's just really interesting looking at
that historical context of the time and why he was
so important, and you know, the fall of the dynasty
in Anthony Beaver does a superb job of making this
history just so interesting to read. It's so fascinating, very good.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
Yeah, I'd love to read that. So let's rest Booton
by Anthony Beaver. Catherine's first book was Better Life by
Lionel Schreiber. Both of those will be on the News
Talk z'b website. We're heading to Hamilton and home Ground
in a couple of minutes fourteen to twelve on NEWSTALKSZ'DB.

Speaker 1 (01:50:34):
Guving you the inside scoop on All you need to
Know Saturday morning with Jack dam News Talks.

Speaker 11 (01:50:41):
It be.

Speaker 17 (01:50:45):
Oh hoh.

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
Against Her, My Baby, My Baby by Me. I love

(01:51:10):
this song. God, It's beautiful, isn't It's Lydia by Fir Patrol.
They're playing Homegrown today. Chris Schultz is headed to Homegrown
along with thirty five thousand other New Zealand music fans
who will be absolutely loving it today. Sixty acts. It's
just extraordinary Christmas weather snawg today, Jack.

Speaker 25 (01:51:29):
I just got here the suns out. I can hear
the drums kicking off in the background. They're about to
open the gates. So, yeah, you're right. It's all happening
here in Hamilton, a city that there's been a little
derided over the years, the tron the Bogan capital of
New Zealand, lacking a bit of culture, but that all
changes today with Homegrown. This is the first time this

(01:51:51):
All New Zealand festival has been in Hamilton. Organizers dramatically
pulled the plug on Wellington. Yeah, at the end of
after last year's show, they sort of teased a few
different options about where it might go. They said, Wellington
it's sort of just wasn't big enough for them. They
couldn't find a site and they had bigger ambitions, And
so they've come to Hamilton Claudland's Oval and yeah, it's

(01:52:14):
the biggest Homegrown yet. They are expecting somewhere around that
thirty thirty five thousand people to show up, which puts
it way ahead of last year's twenty three thousand. That's
all I could fit on the waterfront, grand in there
like sardines Claudland's oval was three times the size of
that Wellington front site, so they've got space to burn.
The two extra stages, one for all new artists, I understand.

(01:52:38):
I'm very much looking forward to checking that out, and then.

Speaker 12 (01:52:41):
Just picky genre.

Speaker 25 (01:52:42):
It's like there's a rock stage, there's a hip hop stage,
there's a dance stage, and then there's a stage for
all the heapliners, the ones we all know, you know,
the Labs, the six sixties, that kind of stuff. So yeah,
I'm looking forward to getting amongst it. I don't think
homegrown organizers have been given enough credit for what they've
achieved here. You know, an all New Zealand festival launched

(01:53:06):
into two thousand and eight was a huge risk, right,
Like New Zealand music wasn't what it is now. Back then,
we didn't have six sixty filling up stadiums. We didn't
have Lord touring the world. He was told Andrew Tucks,
the organizer, I spoke to him a week ago and they,
you know, people sort of said this only last two years,

(01:53:26):
and here he is nineteenth one today and it's the
biggest one yet.

Speaker 12 (01:53:30):
So yeah, they've really done something special. It's remarkable it's.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
Going to be amazing. So who are you most looking
forward to seeing today?

Speaker 8 (01:53:36):
Do you know what?

Speaker 25 (01:53:37):
I'm going to head to that hip up stage. I
want to throwback Savage.

Speaker 12 (01:53:42):
Pee Money, Jesse, David Dallas is on their Lady Sex
as well.

Speaker 25 (01:53:48):
I haven't seen a lot of those artists in a
long time, so I am going to get a little
bit nostalgic.

Speaker 12 (01:53:52):
But for Patrol.

Speaker 25 (01:53:53):
My sister actually went to the Wellington show a few
nights ago and she said there in really good form,
So I'm really keen to see them, like I love
Super Groove at Electric Avenue, desperately want to see them again.

Speaker 12 (01:54:05):
They're always just a a really good time.

Speaker 25 (01:54:08):
And then I look, apparently you can get between these
stages so much faster than the Wellington Waterfront Festival, which
was one long strip along the waterfront.

Speaker 12 (01:54:16):
This is more of a circle.

Speaker 25 (01:54:18):
It's an oval bulblems over obviously, and apparently it's just
sort of three or four minutes you can do a
bit of running about.

Speaker 12 (01:54:25):
So maybe I'll test his legs out, Jackson, see.

Speaker 25 (01:54:27):
What's left in them at the end of this ridiculous
summer festival.

Speaker 2 (01:54:32):
Amazing. Yeah, it's going to be so good. I wish
I was there. I'm burning with envy, but I know
that you're very much well practiced. You've had a little
bit of a break since Electric EV, so no excuses
for not getting around a few of those stages this afternoon.
And yeah, I can't wait to hear how it all
goes in the tron. So thank you very much, Chris.
You can hear, of course, more from Chris on his

(01:54:52):
sub stack, his substacks, boiler Room. And I hope if
you're heading along to Homegrown today, or to Pacifica, or
to the myriad other events around the country today, you
have a wonderful time as well. In a couple of minutes,
we'll wrap things up, we'll play the Black Seeds, given
they're playing out I'm Grown this afternoon. I reckon we'll
play the Black Seeds to close out the show in
a few minutes. Seven to twelve one Newstalks EDB.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
It's cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with
Jack Team.

Speaker 7 (01:55:20):
You've talks B.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
Darcy all the grave is in for Piney on Weekend
Sport this afternoon. He's going to take a look at
this whole saga with New Zealand crickets as well as
that if one with Liam Lawson this afternoon. That sprint
race in Shanghai is four o'clock. Got super Rugby this weekend.
Auckland FC playing seven o'clock this evening, looking forward to that.

(01:55:43):
Thank you very much for your company and all of
your texts and emails this morning for everything from our
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back with you next Saturday morning from nine o'clock. Until then,
a massive thanks to my awesome producer Libby. Have a
wonderful week and we're going to leave you at the
Black Seeds.

Speaker 18 (01:56:06):
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coomb me.

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