April 10, 2026 • 7 mins
Kevin Milne has music on his mind.
Paul McCartney released a new single last month, Days We Left Behind, the lead from his upcoming album ‘The Boys of Dungeon Lane’.
It’s a nostalgic song, and got Kevin thinking about a story a friend of his son tells about meeting the musician.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast
from News Talks, that'd be.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Jack speaking of maths. If you've seen the movie Hidden Figures,
True Space Race Story, absolutely amazing. I do find the
maths just staggering, you know, one of thessally trivial. I know,
but I often look up at the Moon and I think, wow,
if you were, the Moon is, in my experience, often
smaller than we recall. So if you look at it
(00:34):
in the whole context of the sky. Obviously it depends
on where we are in the in the monthly cycle,
et cetera. But the moon is often a whole lot
smaller than I recall. And I always think, shesh. I
would imagine being charged with sending a space mission to
the Moon and having to direct a rocket in the
(00:56):
right direction, So having to calculate the curvature of the Earth,
the impact of the atmosphere, the Earth's rotation, and where
the Moon is in the sky at one time and
make sure that you send a rocket in the right direction.
I mean, that's that alone is just incredibly complex, right,
(01:16):
And you know, that's probably the simplest of the many
gazillion equations that NASA's scientist, engineers and supercomputers will be
will be facing as they as they organize these kind
of missions. Anyway, I just find it. I find it
utterly staggering. Ninety two ninety two. If you want to
send as a messager, I'll get more of your feedback
in a couple of minutes. Kevin Milner's with us this morning,
though I know he has been delighting in Artemis as well.
(01:38):
Have you continued following it this week?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Given I have, I have to some extent though There's
been a lot of a lot of news around and
a lot of issues to grapple with. But I I
share your excitement and I had excuse me, I had
my thumb out in front of me. I wonder how
many people around New Zealand have had their arm out
(02:02):
with their thumb up on your request, said, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I mean I do. I just find the geometry really
amazing because I think that that sense of wonder and perspective,
when you are reminded of how kind of infinitesimal we
are in the grand context of the cosmos, that really
is hammered home when you see the Earth as a
whole in space rather than as spectacular as the viewers
(02:30):
from the International Space Station. You need to get out
of that Earth orbit in order to actually get that
full perspective, and no one's had that for fifty years,
No human beings had that since since nineteen seventy two.
So yeah, I just think I think it's really amazing.
And the photographs that have been sending back it just
bananas that they really are amazing. But anyway, you have
(02:52):
music on your mind this morning.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
While the top of the news was all around run
really this week and quite rightly and of course Hadamus too,
down the bottom of the news was the release of
a new single by Paul McCartney. It's a sentimental ballad
called the Days We Left Behind about his childhood for
it's from an upcoming album called The Boys of Dungeon Lane.
(03:19):
It's a sweet, simple song from the now eighty three
year old whose voice sounds weak, a bit very familiar,
and the video includes old black and white photos from
Paul McCartney's childhood in Dungeon Lane, Liverpool. My son Jake
has a friend, a music journalist in London, who tells
(03:41):
a story about meeting Paul McCartney for an interview. In
my mind any story about meeting Paul McCartney is worth retelling,
so here it is. It was arranged for the story
to be of this journalist to be picked up in
a car from central London and taken to McCartney's recording
studio in East Sussex. When he got there, he was
(04:04):
hagging into the kitchen and asked wait. He hadn't had
any breakfast because of nerves, but was now famished. After
a short time, he heard a car pull up, someone
got out and walked to the house whistling. He contends
the journalist that Paul McCartney's whistle was instantly recognizable, and
(04:29):
sure enough into the kitchen walks the greatest living songwriter. Hi,
says Paul McCartney, you hungry. I make a mean marmite bagel.
The interview went ahead with that incident and the journo
returned to London, but he says he'll never forget those
(04:51):
first words from the Beatles legend, I make a mean
marmite bagel. There we are listeners. Only a few of
us know that Paul McCartney makes a mean marmite bagel.
If you have any bag go on hand, you can
make one for yourself now and listen to the great
man at eighty three years old.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Way to Black reminds my past, smoky books and cheaper guitars.
One nothing, bell to last, nothing ever steams, nothing comes
(05:38):
to m.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Nor one.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
That's lovely. So that's the days we left behind.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, very sweet, very song, very very simple.
And if you're to some extent, I always expect McCartney
to come up with something totally new, but there's nothing
really totally new about the song except except it's it's
beautifully written.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, amazing, amazing, He's he's still running music.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
It's amazing that he's all.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
We got to prove you don't have to do it
for us, you know, like you don't.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just so much Jenner's flood. And
he'll keep writing music, I'm sure till he dies. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I love that. Thank you so much, Kevin. Yeah, and
what a great story. It reminds me of the time
that Hugh Jackman offered to make me a coffee. There
you go, that's the uh, not quite on the same scale.
I don't think it's Paul McCart and the offering to
make a man at bagel, But maybe next level. Thank
you very much, Kevin, appreciate your time this morning before
ten o'clock soup for a storm. The winds are already
(06:47):
blowing in North and obviously things are expected to get
a whole lot more serious over the next twenty four
hours or so as cyclone VAU makes its way to
New Zealand. Again, if you haven't got yourself organized, now
is the time to do it. Plenty of tips up
at news talks. He'd be dot co dot insed and insied.
Herol dot co dot zied as well. Thy give your feedback, Jack,
(07:07):
I've never texted news talks. He'd be. I'm twenty five
and your monologue just now about the artemist journey brought
tears to my eyes. Thank you Jack. For those of
us who were growing up during the Apollo missions, that
sense of grand perspective has never left us and Jack,
my husband Ian put his thumb up just as Jack suggested.
It's good and honestly, if you if you didn't do it,
(07:28):
just try it. I just think it's really a really
simple way of understanding something like a tiny little bit
of what that those astronauts on artemists must have felt.
If you hold your hand, hold your arm up at
full extension and put your thumb up. That is how
small the Earth would have looked when Artemis was four
hundred thousand k's away, further than any crude spaceship has
(07:53):
ever traveled. Yeah amazing.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live
to Newstalks He'd be from nine am Saturday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast
from News Talks, that'd be.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Jack speaking of maths. If you've seen the movie Hidden Figures,
True Space Race Story, absolutely amazing. I do find the
maths just staggering, you know, one of thessally trivial. I know,
but I often look up at the Moon and I think, wow,
if you were, the Moon is, in my experience, often
smaller than we recall. So if you look at it
(00:34):
in the whole context of the sky. Obviously it depends
on where we are in the in the monthly cycle,
et cetera. But the moon is often a whole lot
smaller than I recall. And I always think, shesh. I
would imagine being charged with sending a space mission to
the Moon and having to direct a rocket in the
(00:56):
right direction, So having to calculate the curvature of the Earth,
the impact of the atmosphere, the Earth's rotation, and where
the Moon is in the sky at one time and
make sure that you send a rocket in the right direction.
I mean, that's that alone is just incredibly complex, right,
(01:16):
And you know, that's probably the simplest of the many
gazillion equations that NASA's scientist, engineers and supercomputers will be
will be facing as they as they organize these kind
of missions. Anyway, I just find it. I find it
utterly staggering. Ninety two ninety two. If you want to
send as a messager, I'll get more of your feedback
in a couple of minutes. Kevin Milner's with us this morning,
though I know he has been delighting in Artemis as well.
(01:38):
Have you continued following it this week?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Given I have, I have to some extent though There's
been a lot of a lot of news around and
a lot of issues to grapple with. But I I
share your excitement and I had excuse me, I had
my thumb out in front of me. I wonder how
many people around New Zealand have had their arm out
(02:02):
with their thumb up on your request, said, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I mean I do. I just find the geometry really
amazing because I think that that sense of wonder and perspective,
when you are reminded of how kind of infinitesimal we
are in the grand context of the cosmos, that really
is hammered home when you see the Earth as a
whole in space rather than as spectacular as the viewers
(02:30):
from the International Space Station. You need to get out
of that Earth orbit in order to actually get that
full perspective, and no one's had that for fifty years,
No human beings had that since since nineteen seventy two.
So yeah, I just think I think it's really amazing.
And the photographs that have been sending back it just
bananas that they really are amazing. But anyway, you have
(02:52):
music on your mind this morning.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
While the top of the news was all around run
really this week and quite rightly and of course Hadamus too,
down the bottom of the news was the release of
a new single by Paul McCartney. It's a sentimental ballad
called the Days We Left Behind about his childhood for
it's from an upcoming album called The Boys of Dungeon Lane.
(03:19):
It's a sweet, simple song from the now eighty three
year old whose voice sounds weak, a bit very familiar,
and the video includes old black and white photos from
Paul McCartney's childhood in Dungeon Lane, Liverpool. My son Jake
has a friend, a music journalist in London, who tells
(03:41):
a story about meeting Paul McCartney for an interview. In
my mind any story about meeting Paul McCartney is worth retelling,
so here it is. It was arranged for the story
to be of this journalist to be picked up in
a car from central London and taken to McCartney's recording
studio in East Sussex. When he got there, he was
(04:04):
hagging into the kitchen and asked wait. He hadn't had
any breakfast because of nerves, but was now famished. After
a short time, he heard a car pull up, someone
got out and walked to the house whistling. He contends
the journalist that Paul McCartney's whistle was instantly recognizable, and
(04:29):
sure enough into the kitchen walks the greatest living songwriter. Hi,
says Paul McCartney, you hungry. I make a mean marmite bagel.
The interview went ahead with that incident and the journo
returned to London, but he says he'll never forget those
(04:51):
first words from the Beatles legend, I make a mean
marmite bagel. There we are listeners. Only a few of
us know that Paul McCartney makes a mean marmite bagel.
If you have any bag go on hand, you can
make one for yourself now and listen to the great
man at eighty three years old.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Way to Black reminds my past, smoky books and cheaper guitars.
One nothing, bell to last, nothing ever steams, nothing comes
(05:38):
to m.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Nor one.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
That's lovely. So that's the days we left behind.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, very sweet, very song, very very simple.
And if you're to some extent, I always expect McCartney
to come up with something totally new, but there's nothing
really totally new about the song except except it's it's
beautifully written.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, amazing, amazing, He's he's still running music.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
It's amazing that he's all.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
We got to prove you don't have to do it
for us, you know, like you don't.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just so much Jenner's flood. And
he'll keep writing music, I'm sure till he dies. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I love that. Thank you so much, Kevin. Yeah, and
what a great story. It reminds me of the time
that Hugh Jackman offered to make me a coffee. There
you go, that's the uh, not quite on the same scale.
I don't think it's Paul McCart and the offering to
make a man at bagel, But maybe next level. Thank
you very much, Kevin, appreciate your time this morning before
ten o'clock soup for a storm. The winds are already
(06:47):
blowing in North and obviously things are expected to get
a whole lot more serious over the next twenty four
hours or so as cyclone VAU makes its way to
New Zealand. Again, if you haven't got yourself organized, now
is the time to do it. Plenty of tips up
at news talks. He'd be dot co dot insed and insied.
Herol dot co dot zied as well. Thy give your feedback, Jack,
(07:07):
I've never texted news talks. He'd be. I'm twenty five
and your monologue just now about the artemist journey brought
tears to my eyes. Thank you Jack. For those of
us who were growing up during the Apollo missions, that
sense of grand perspective has never left us and Jack,
my husband Ian put his thumb up just as Jack suggested.
It's good and honestly, if you if you didn't do it,
(07:28):
just try it. I just think it's really a really
simple way of understanding something like a tiny little bit
of what that those astronauts on artemists must have felt.
If you hold your hand, hold your arm up at
full extension and put your thumb up. That is how
small the Earth would have looked when Artemis was four
hundred thousand k's away, further than any crude spaceship has
(07:53):
ever traveled. Yeah amazing.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live
to Newstalks He'd be from nine am Saturday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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