March 27, 2026 • 7 mins
Most people are aware that drivers licensing tests have changed over the years, but not everyone is aware of exactly how much.
Kevin Milne first sat his driver's test back in 1964, and in retrospect, the rules back then were much slacker.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast
from News Talks ed B.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Six sixteen past nine on News Talks. 'd be praise
be the pomegranate persists. Yep, good morning Jack. We used
grours in the sixties and seventies. To us. It meant fabulous,
butte great, says Sharon pang Nui.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I just had to double check it, so it is grause.
It means like it was. It is great, It's excellent,
It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Jack.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Speaking of talking slang, I've never heard someone talk about
the three? What on earth is that? Come on, it's
the area code. Todang is the O seven? Work onto
the O nine? Anywhere in the South Island is the
O three. I think that's right, isn't it? Yeah, anywhere
in the Southern Yeah, well Linin's the four, That's right.
Ninety ninety two is the text unrest. You want to
(00:53):
send us a message this morning, Kevin mill Is with
us ka.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Kevin Kyoder Jack. I love what you said about the
about Taka and I'm thinking who would have been the
one person in christis you could say was behind all that,
who took all the political heat? Was there any one
mayor or I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Not sure that there is, because I mean I didn't
get into it then, because no one wants to be
talking about the cost of the thing right now. But
the final cost was certainly a source of contention or
point of contention and the ways in which it was
paid for or not, because i mean central government puts
some money in, but then basically the christ Church City
Council paid for the rest of it. And you were
(01:37):
probably aware that the councils on either side of christ
Church City are some of the fastest growing regions in
the country, and so maybe a different response would have
also asked the councils in those areas to contribute to
the cost of the stadium. After all, the residents are
going to be the ones using it, probably almost as
much as people in christ Church City itself, you know,
(01:58):
like if you in Selwyn, for example, you're probably still
going to be going to watch the Crusaders when another
super ap title. So maybe as a rate pad, being
asked to shell out a little bit and contribute to
the cost would have been a good idea, But anyway,
it's one of them.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, I just think we forget very quickly about these
people that go into battle. I think my old mate
Dave Cole, who took a lot of political heat to
get their stadium of the map, and and of course
everybody forgets that once it's all up and gone. And
I just think, no, we we should remember these people
(02:33):
because they put in the battle right at the start.
And there must be some there must be some people
down in grass Church who we mustn't forget. Risked quite
a lot to get that building up.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Have you seen it from the outside, And it's so common, right,
I mean, so you'll see it as you fly into
the city next time you visit. But it's so prominent.
It's in such a prominent spot right in the CBDs.
You basically just walk right across the road and you're
into the bars and restaurants and everything else. It's such
a great location.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I didn't, I didn't. Yeah, yeah, I've always thought it
was built on the Lancaster Park.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
No, no, no, no, no, that it's quite a different
spot because you know, there was always you know, like
I said, it was always a little bit semi industrial,
you know. So yeah, as I'm being reminded, it's no
longer to Kaha, it's the one new Zealand Stadium. So okay,
given they've paid a whole lot of money for that
for the should yeah, one New Zealand Stadium. I wonder
if we've got the full name, like one New Zealand
(03:32):
Stadium Metica.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Sometimes they do, Oh yeah, it would be another name
next yeareah.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, we're plea yeah, I'm sure we please to have
a sponsor. Oh, Kevin, you've been thinking about driving tests
this week and how much they've changed.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
When I got my driver's license way back in nineteen
sixty four, I did something that that back then was rare.
I set a test and a car that had automatic transmission.
The car wasn't mine. There were hardly any automatic cars
in New Zealand in the sixties. My driving in Strapper
bordered into New Zealand, making it easier for his clients
(04:08):
to learn to drive. I got my driver's license no
trouble in the automatic, which weirdly also allowed me to
drive a manual vehicle even though I didn't know how to.
The first thing I had to do when I got
my license was to set about teaching myself how to
drive our manual family car, a Morris's eleven hundred what
(04:30):
slack driving laws stood back then. It wasn't till the
eighties the law changed so that if you got your
license in an automatic, you got an endorsement on your
license saying you couldn't drive a manual car. You still
can't if you're on a restricted license, but now if
you have a full license, you can drive automatic or manual.
(04:51):
I guess that's because it's unlikely you'll end up driving
a manual. Nowadays, only ten percent of New Zealand cars
are currently manual. Going back to the slackness of the rules.
Later in the sixties, I also got my heavy track
license so I could drive the b n Z's mobile bank.
(05:12):
I worked for the bank. Back then, you could set
your heavy track test driving a truck with no deck
on it. I still found it difficult. You only had
to touch the pneumatic brakes and you nearly catapulted the
end over end. I failed my first test. I had
the same cop from the second test. You told me
I was no better, but he passed me anyway. I
(05:35):
remember him saying, learn how to drive a truck before
you take out that mobile bank. I still have my
heavy track license, but I left the bank before I
was given the keys to the mobile bank, and I
think we can all be grateful for that. Jack.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Oh, that's so funny, Kevin. Yeah, and I'd completely forgotten
about the you know, the automatic versus manual. Yeah, you know,
like it's quite a big deal. I think my brother actually,
he was like famously like to learn to drive. I
think he was in his twenties when he learned to drive,
and so he only got an automatic endorsement on his thing. Now.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
But yeah, it's amazing in Britain, that's the other way around.
I couldn't believe that most cars in Britain are still manual.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I think it's really it's a really weird.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Thing, do you know. I've said it before. I really
miss driving manual cars. I really like driving a manual car.
You just feel much more connected to the road. I think,
much more, I.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Think if you're a driver driver, Yeah, I mean I
just wanted the ease of driving I love. I'd never
get I'd never get a manual again. Yeah, unless somebody
offered me and Aston Martin with manual you take that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, you'd lower yourself to that. Yeah, you find that
stuff in that position very good.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Kevin.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Hey, thank you for that. Have a great weekend and
we will catch you again very soon. Kevin Milm with
us this morning.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Jack.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It is definitely One New Zealand Stadium. You're sorry. I
need to get used to that, you know how it does.
It can be a bit when you're used to calling
it one thing and then you've got to change the name.
But One New Zealand Stadium is the official name for
what was known as Taikaha, So thank you for them.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live
to News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast
from News Talks ed B.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Six sixteen past nine on News Talks. 'd be praise
be the pomegranate persists. Yep, good morning Jack. We used
grours in the sixties and seventies. To us. It meant fabulous,
butte great, says Sharon pang Nui.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I just had to double check it, so it is grause.
It means like it was. It is great, It's excellent,
It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Jack.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Speaking of talking slang, I've never heard someone talk about
the three? What on earth is that? Come on, it's
the area code. Todang is the O seven? Work onto
the O nine? Anywhere in the South Island is the
O three. I think that's right, isn't it? Yeah, anywhere
in the Southern Yeah, well Linin's the four, That's right.
Ninety ninety two is the text unrest. You want to
(00:53):
send us a message this morning, Kevin mill Is with
us ka.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Kevin Kyoder Jack. I love what you said about the
about Taka and I'm thinking who would have been the
one person in christis you could say was behind all that,
who took all the political heat? Was there any one
mayor or I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Not sure that there is, because I mean I didn't
get into it then, because no one wants to be
talking about the cost of the thing right now. But
the final cost was certainly a source of contention or
point of contention and the ways in which it was
paid for or not, because i mean central government puts
some money in, but then basically the christ Church City
Council paid for the rest of it. And you were
(01:37):
probably aware that the councils on either side of christ
Church City are some of the fastest growing regions in
the country, and so maybe a different response would have
also asked the councils in those areas to contribute to
the cost of the stadium. After all, the residents are
going to be the ones using it, probably almost as
much as people in christ Church City itself, you know,
(01:58):
like if you in Selwyn, for example, you're probably still
going to be going to watch the Crusaders when another
super ap title. So maybe as a rate pad, being
asked to shell out a little bit and contribute to
the cost would have been a good idea, But anyway,
it's one of them.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, I just think we forget very quickly about these
people that go into battle. I think my old mate
Dave Cole, who took a lot of political heat to
get their stadium of the map, and and of course
everybody forgets that once it's all up and gone. And
I just think, no, we we should remember these people
(02:33):
because they put in the battle right at the start.
And there must be some there must be some people
down in grass Church who we mustn't forget. Risked quite
a lot to get that building up.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Have you seen it from the outside, And it's so common, right,
I mean, so you'll see it as you fly into
the city next time you visit. But it's so prominent.
It's in such a prominent spot right in the CBDs.
You basically just walk right across the road and you're
into the bars and restaurants and everything else. It's such
a great location.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I didn't, I didn't. Yeah, yeah, I've always thought it
was built on the Lancaster Park.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
No, no, no, no, no, that it's quite a different
spot because you know, there was always you know, like
I said, it was always a little bit semi industrial,
you know. So yeah, as I'm being reminded, it's no
longer to Kaha, it's the one new Zealand Stadium. So okay,
given they've paid a whole lot of money for that
for the should yeah, one New Zealand Stadium. I wonder
if we've got the full name, like one New Zealand
(03:32):
Stadium Metica.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Sometimes they do, Oh yeah, it would be another name
next yeareah.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, we're plea yeah, I'm sure we please to have
a sponsor. Oh, Kevin, you've been thinking about driving tests
this week and how much they've changed.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
When I got my driver's license way back in nineteen
sixty four, I did something that that back then was rare.
I set a test and a car that had automatic transmission.
The car wasn't mine. There were hardly any automatic cars
in New Zealand in the sixties. My driving in Strapper
bordered into New Zealand, making it easier for his clients
(04:08):
to learn to drive. I got my driver's license no
trouble in the automatic, which weirdly also allowed me to
drive a manual vehicle even though I didn't know how to.
The first thing I had to do when I got
my license was to set about teaching myself how to
drive our manual family car, a Morris's eleven hundred what
(04:30):
slack driving laws stood back then. It wasn't till the
eighties the law changed so that if you got your
license in an automatic, you got an endorsement on your
license saying you couldn't drive a manual car. You still
can't if you're on a restricted license, but now if
you have a full license, you can drive automatic or manual.
(04:51):
I guess that's because it's unlikely you'll end up driving
a manual. Nowadays, only ten percent of New Zealand cars
are currently manual. Going back to the slackness of the rules.
Later in the sixties, I also got my heavy track
license so I could drive the b n Z's mobile bank.
(05:12):
I worked for the bank. Back then, you could set
your heavy track test driving a truck with no deck
on it. I still found it difficult. You only had
to touch the pneumatic brakes and you nearly catapulted the
end over end. I failed my first test. I had
the same cop from the second test. You told me
I was no better, but he passed me anyway. I
(05:35):
remember him saying, learn how to drive a truck before
you take out that mobile bank. I still have my
heavy track license, but I left the bank before I
was given the keys to the mobile bank, and I
think we can all be grateful for that. Jack.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Oh, that's so funny, Kevin. Yeah, and I'd completely forgotten
about the you know, the automatic versus manual. Yeah, you know,
like it's quite a big deal. I think my brother actually,
he was like famously like to learn to drive. I
think he was in his twenties when he learned to drive,
and so he only got an automatic endorsement on his thing. Now.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
But yeah, it's amazing in Britain, that's the other way around.
I couldn't believe that most cars in Britain are still manual.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I think it's really it's a really weird.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Thing, do you know. I've said it before. I really
miss driving manual cars. I really like driving a manual car.
You just feel much more connected to the road. I think,
much more, I.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Think if you're a driver driver, Yeah, I mean I
just wanted the ease of driving I love. I'd never
get I'd never get a manual again. Yeah, unless somebody
offered me and Aston Martin with manual you take that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, you'd lower yourself to that. Yeah, you find that
stuff in that position very good.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Kevin.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Hey, thank you for that. Have a great weekend and
we will catch you again very soon. Kevin Milm with
us this morning.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Jack.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It is definitely One New Zealand Stadium. You're sorry. I
need to get used to that, you know how it does.
It can be a bit when you're used to calling
it one thing and then you've got to change the name.
But One New Zealand Stadium is the official name for
what was known as Taikaha, So thank you for them.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live
to News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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