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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Rugby League, International Cricket, the Olympics, Super Rugby, ACC does
Game of two Halves, you name it. Laura McGoldrick is
there as one of our best known broadcasters. She has
had an incredible and diverse career on our screens and airwaves.
She just returned from the official ICC broadcast of the
Women's T twenty Cricket World Cup and Laura is with
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us this morning. Killed Laura.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yelder, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm so well, thanks and so please to be chatting
with you. So I just want to start with some
really basic questions that our listeners are going to say
are the questions of someone who has job envy. Okay,
so just let's put that to one side for just
a moment. But you've just been at the T twenty
World Cup and the thing that distinguishes this broadcast is
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that this is part of the global ICC International Cricket
Council cast, right, rather than simply presenting for a home
audience in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, So how does that work?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
So as a part of as a so I work
for Sky and then I work for the ICC, so
the governing body employ me and I go over and
I get to work on their worldwide events, which is
pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
How amazing. So, and what's it like being a Kiwi
voice there for an event of that scale.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Oh, it's it's it's so great, it's so fantastic work
with the crew that I do, So it's not I'm
not the only key. We I work alongside an Smith,
sim Adul, Katie Martin, and we have a great time.
And we work with people like you know, Matthew Hayden,
Cas and I do evening range for brent Isha Gua.
There's a whole there's a whole range of people that
we work with and it's it's it's so much fun.
And especially with the women's game, with how far it's
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come and how far it's coming, it's a really cool
place to.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Be because you did the men's Tea twenty World Cup
as well earlier this year with the same same names,
the same kiwis, as well as some of the same
international crews. So is it a bit of a kind
of repeat event and that the ICC brings together all
of these great broadcasters from different countries and then sets
you up, so you're all kind of working together.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, which is like some weird family that catches up
every couple of years, you know, that gets together and
hangs out. It's quite good. Actually, we often joke about
it with it. Let's just functional, functional family, because they
also bring in crew. It's not just commentas and stuff,
it's crew as well from around the world, floor managers,
sounde's camera ops from all over and yeah, it's wonderful
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to work with the ic C because they really take
care of you.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, how amazing. So how different is that compared to
I mean, we all know, we all see you on
sky all the time, we hear you on our ear waves.
But how different is that kind of event from a
professional perspective compared to the normal stuff that we would
see you on screen for.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It's not different in that you're doing anything different. It's
just that it's you know, more international sometimes, if that
makes sense. It's the job itself is the same, remains
the same, but it's just catching up with these people
from other parts of the globe. You know. The next
time you catch up with them, like, where's my guy
who takes care of my sound? You know, when I'm
working with them, He'll have a baby next time to them,
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So that's sort of That's really the main difference I
think is that it's it's people from all over the world,
which is which is very cool.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Do you get a sense of that with the audience
as well, that you are really broadcasting for a global audience,
Not that you aren't when you're broadcasting for New Zealand,
but you know, it's like it really distinguishes these kind
of events.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, yeah, I suppose it does. It's yeah, the audience
is is I'm very lucky, you know, sport is the
great fan base that watches all the sports that I
get to work on, So I'm lucky in that regard.
But yeah, I think the fans for sure. Yeah, you
definitely make a sense that.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That it's an international kind.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Of thing and everyone and everyone's into it. There's Laura
again talking about God.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, nice. Okay, So take us back a
little bit for anyone who might were wanting to following
your footsteps and who does have a little bit of
professional envy. Were you a performing kid?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Oh yes, oh Jack, Now look now, look yeah I was.
I was very much into my performing arts and did
theater and wanted to be on stage, and I don't
know what happened, but that was that that was certainly
the goal when I was younger.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Like singing and dancing as opposed to and acting as.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
A sang musical theater get in my life.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, anything that involved you being the absolute, unrivaled center
of attention.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
No, I mean, well, so it wasn't a great dancer.
That My theory was if I just if I just
got the lead, I wouldn't have to dance. So so
whether whether or not that was right, I'm not sure.
But yeah, no, yeah, which is bizarre because I actually
don't like being the center peach. I like entertaining people
don't ask about me that like, this is all very
odd for me. But yeah, yeah, I guess yeah, center
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of attention attracks.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, and so how did you go from being the
performing kid, the somewhat precocious performing kid into broadcasting? How
did you make that step?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Never precocious, just delightful? How do I make the change?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
So I'm assuming something there, I mean, yeah, might be wrong.
Anytime I think of a child in musical theater, and
I'm speaking from personal experience here, you'd be unsurprised to
know that I dabbled a little bit of musical theater. Yes,
I think Precocious has sort of you know, taken as given.
But anyway, sorry, how did you make the step?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
You know?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I don't know, No, I think it was just timing
and luck. I was studying performing arts and I was
doing it. I was trying to, you know, my job
on the weekends to help put me through performing arts,
you know, doing my degree in performing arts. And I
did an interview with a cricket player and my family's
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been involved in sport for a long time. And I
did an interview with Shane bond and somewhat Sky saw
it and rang Bondie and said, who is that girl?
And he said it's my agent's daughter. Do you want
a phone number? And they rang and asked if i'd
come and do an audition, and I did and I
got the job, and that was really it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It's amazing, Ah, how like a relatively small moment like
that can open up like an entire career and an
entire world of experiences.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah it is. I'm very lucky. And saying that, I'm
not to take away with how hard I've work, because
once I realized how much I loved it. I was like,
right here we go and had to put my head down,
bumb up and really work hard to to do it. So,
but you know, it's crazy. I look forward to telling
my children that sometimes it's about right time, right place.
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Let's talk about how mum got heard of. So, yeah,
it's it is crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I think it's a combination of those things, you know,
like you need to you'd be crazy to say there
isn't that. Luck isn't a component. But also you need
to be in a position where if you an opportunity,
you can work your butt off in order to make
the very most out of that opportunity. I think both
of those things can be true. And you know, maybe
that was the case for you. Yeah, yeah, So does
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that means that, sorry, you did that interview with Bondie
and they said this, this kid's got talent. Did that
mean that you gave up your performing arts dreams at
that point? How did that work?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Oh? Look, maybe I wasn't that good at the performing either.
It put a bit a combination of things, but it
certainly went to the went by the way side a
little bit there. And I like the Tiger Woods quote
where he says the harder work, the luckier I get
and so I yeah, that was very much a thing
for me. But yeah, no, the hell performing answer, but
go ahead and give it up on it completely just
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a little bit. Yeah no, the all performing answers took
it took a back seat. Let's just say that.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, right, but you got this opportunity. The point is
that you got the opportunity and you immediately ran with it.
You didn't try and defer and say, you know, i'm
i'm I've got an important role in any gets your
gun and eight months time so we can talk after that.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, No, it wasn't like that. It was well, it
was like that, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Sport?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Did you did you know a lot about it? Was
it something that interests you? Obviously you mentioned you you know,
you had your mum there who had some connections to
the sporting world. But was it something that had taken
you at that point in life.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, well my dad did too. My dad ran Jade
Stadium down in christ Church and so we had a
lot of time in family time at sporting events, So
going to the rugby on Friday and Saturday night, and
you know, I always loved sport. My brothers were very
good cricketers. I would tell you I was okay, but
I was not. So Yeah, we as a family love
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sport and it was what we did.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
We'd go and play tennis, sort of backyard cricket, you know,
those sorts of things. So I certainly loved it and
then learn more about it as I went. And I
think also with mum's role as a player agent and manager,
I learned a lot about you know, that the people themselves,
not just the athletics. That makes sense, and I found out,
you know, and so I really try to bring an
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element of empathy as a consequence to the role that
I do, because you know, they are just people as well.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So do you think that there is sometimes lacking from
sports broadcasting.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
No, I don't know if it's likely from sports broadcasting,
but I think sometimes as fans, we have this expectation
of these people and we forget that they are just people. Yeah,
they are athletes, they do amazing things, but they are
also a son, a daughter, a dad, a mum, whatever
it might be. You know. I think sometimes we.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Forget that, Yeah, that's it. Yeah, And being able to
have that I guess you kind of like there's all
the stuff that happens off camera, a like, all of
their kind of you know, unstructured interactions and things that
you inevitably have when you're broadcasting from different sporting events
that give you a greater insight into the kind of
pressures that athletes might face.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah. Absolutely, I also married one, which sort of helps
as well. So yeah, yeah, very much.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So you and Martin Gupdel Guppy met in the green room,
is that right?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yes? It was love for Yes, we did meet in
the green room, that guy. It was my second day
hosting the Cricket Show and that was that?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So fair to say that the empathy was burning strong
that day.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Oh plenty of empathy that day. Yeah. Yeah. He was
just the kindest, most beautiful man I've ever met.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
And that was that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And what what has being married to Guppy and being
in a relationship with Guppy? What has having that kind
of deeply personal insight into the pressures of professional sport
in the world of professional sport, how has that enriched
you and your performance in your in your day job, Like,
how how does that help you to be a better broadcaster?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Again, I think it's that empathy and also that understanding
of what goes on behind the scenes is not just
what we see, and there's the you know, the extra
the extras that people do and to get to where
they are, And yeah, I think it just yeah, em
the thing is probably the best way I can think
of to describe it. But yeah, it just allows me,
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allows me to really be cognitive of the extra ya
at Miles, that these people have had to go through
to get to where they are.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, I can imagine there were a lot of dudes
on the dance floor when you started, right, there are
a lot of what dudes on the dance floor.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah, it's certainly at Mission while Share and Wellington. But
what do you mean you meaning in terms of.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I mean it was a male dominated world, Laura. I
can only imagine that sports broadcasting, especially when you started,
was a male dominated world. And my sense as a
viewer and fan is that that has shifted, meaningfully shifted.
Maybe hasn't gone quite as far as it as it
could or should or whatever, but it's shifted. But what's
been your experience of that.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
It's definitely shifted, and my experience of it is it's
been it's been hard work in a lot of ways.
But also I've worked with some fantastic men who have
taken really good care of me. So I've been very
lucky in that regard. And I don't take that for granted,
but there's definitely a shift, no, for sure. And then
I go over you know, overseas and work on the
Woman's World Cup and it's majority women, and you know,
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there's it's so it's so great, it's so great to
see and I feel, particularly with the Women's World Cup
having a daughter and I have a son as well,
but particularly for her, I'm like, yeah, this is this
is this is cool because all these women are moms
as well, but here we are on the world stage
and you know you can you can do this too.
It's it's very it's very cool. It's very cool to
be have been a part of.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, it's like, so would you, like, what what advice
would you give your daughter if she wanted to follow
in your full step?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Don't do it? No, I would say, well, you got
to love it and if and as long as she
loves it and she's happy, that's that's all that matters
to me. But it's also just a whole learning to
hold your own as a bit of a skill on
this industry. And as you'll know, Jet even is it. Man,
You've got to learn to hold your own and be
comfortable in who you are, and that will be that
will bring out the best in you on the professional stage.
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So I don't know, God, I hope you didn't do it. No, yeah,
just go it, just go.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
So you've been in the game for a week while
now we don't need to get into only twenty one.
Yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, that's right. But the
world of entertainment has changed massively in those twenty one years.
I mean Facebook didn't exist, I think when you were
first interviewing Bondie and then getting the call from Sky
and there are so many different entertainment options that are
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kind of competing for people's attention these days. The business
models have all changed. I mean, the mere fact that
the ICC, for example, has this kind of international in
house broadcast team bringing the T twenty World Cup to
different broadcasters around the world is interesting in itself. But
where do you see sports entertainment as a business going
in the in the coming years. Do you feel kind
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of optimistic about it?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Oh? Very much. I don't think sport's going anywhere. It's
the freest entertainment you can get. And I think one
of the things I love so much about is that
I can turn up on any given day and I
have absolutely no idea what's going to happen, and neither
do you as the viewer. So that's what makes it
very exciting. I think that's what keeps my like the
entertainment sort of acting drama kind of thing, because there
is going to be someone's going to make someone's it's
going to go really well for someone it's going to
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be really poorly for someone else. You know, I don't
think sport's obviously not going anywhere. You look at that
Football World Cup and what an extraordinary, extraordinary event that
has been fans, the amount of money that it must
have brought in. Now, I think sport's in a good space.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Okay, finally, then give us your most joyous sporting experience,
that the most joyful thing you've seen in person, and
your biggest sporting heartbreak.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Oh that's a very tough question. The biggest sporting heartbreak
would have to be the twenty nineteen Cricket World Cup.
You're going to say that I have done I won't
let it go, Jack, I won't.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
None of us are leaving it go.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Don't worry. I can't let it go Jack. It's really upsetting. No,
that was probably the biggest heartbreak because it made no
sense on the ground or otherwise. You know, it's just
it made literally no sense. But one of my and
I don't want to stick to just cricket because there's
been some great Oh actually, okay, so this is the
tie I'm going to give you. I've got a tie.
One of them was a game against the Newcastle Knights
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and it was almost one of Shawn Johnson's last games
at home the Warriors in twenty twenty three to get
us through to the prelim final. That was a spectacular
That was a spectacular sporting moment that I loved. And
the other one will be the twenty fifteen semi final
against South Africa at Eden Park where Brenda mccun just
went ballistic and Grand Elliot hit that six to get
us through the file that we've never been in. So
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I've been for man, I've been blessed with some great
sporting moments that I've been around.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, oh well, well, he's hoping that you get to
enjoy many, many more, and I'm sure you will. Thank
you so much for giving us your time, Laura, Congratulations
on the twenty World Cup, welcome back home, and thank you.
I really appreciate your nights, all right, thank you so much. Bye.
That's Laura McGoldrick. You know her, of course, from basically
every sporting event ever on our screen. She has had
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an extraordinary career so far, and just returned from the
latest edition of the ICC T twenty World Cup.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
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