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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Andrew Sebral Morning Morning, Mike, Jason Pine, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good a Mike Andrew, your.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Lot of sport? What was your highlight?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
A lot of sport, Mike, probably Will Jordan cracking that
all blacks test trice scoring records stood for twenty odd
years from Doug Hallett. And then Will Jordan what is it?
Fifty tries and fifty six tests, which is quite remarkable.
He always seems to be in the right position at
the right time, right place, whether it's fullback or wing.
(00:30):
So that was Yeah, that was one of the highlights.
And then yesterday England Jude Bellingham can't get enough of
watching this guy. Isn't he superb?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Do you reckon they're any good.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
England? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah, yeah, Well I don't put it this way. I
actually think they're they're the least impressive of the semifinalists,
but that doesn't mean they won't win the World Cup.
Spain and France will meet for semi final Wednesday. A
lot of people saying whoever wins that his favorite to
win the World Cup, and I think that's probably right.
England Argentina. Man, what a game that's going to be
(01:04):
Thursday morning. England have just found a way to get
to where they are Jude Bellingham, as Sav said, Wi gee,
what a player. They're playing good tournament football. All you
have to do is win the game and go through
to the next round. I don't think they will win it.
I don't think it is coming home. But here they
are in the final four.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
And also they've stitched it up, so Messi becomes a
hero and the whole thing's before gone conclusion according to
the ten hatters.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah yeah, sort of over stay off, stay off instant
Mike Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know
Infantino and Trump. You know they messaged that American red card.
But I don't think by telling the reps to take
it easy on the Argentinians are good than the lucky.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Break before we leap all over the place. Sav. As
far as the rugby's concern all Blacks, Frances, Australia, Island, Japan,
is there anything in there that you saw that was like,
oh my god, you know what's going on here?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Or no? No, I'm quite enjoying this new competition because
if every game has been quite entertaining, there's there's points
on the line for this, for this championship. Mike I
thought the All Blacks were were better in patches, still
a lot of errors. I still think that looks like
they're betting in a fair amount, especially on attack and
(02:16):
betting and other stuff on and off the field. So
I think you've got to give them some time on
that front. The Italians came to play very fast events,
try to slow the ball down to the breakdown, and
I think it's probably just the test or just the
opposition they needed before they face Island and Eden Park
because they're going to have to be better against the Irish.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Am I the only person, Jason who enjoys sport in
this country because all I you know, I watch whatever
I watch, and I buy and large enjoy it, and
then all I read is just misery and woe and
what went wrong and who could have done better?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Things? Being miserable?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
No, no, not then I'm just thinking generally, it doesn't
meanter like the Warriors win was fantastic, one thoroughly entertaining game.
Threw the ball all over the place and we won
by a mile. All Blacks won by a mile. What
was the problem? Why do you need to analyze the
Bejesus out of it?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
In a negativery time.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Yeah, it's a good point, Mike actually, because I think
we rushed to try and find things that were not
happy with rather than just be happy with what we say.
Look sav right the first half, Look, that was a
very good Italian performance.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Second half all Blacks came out and really turned it on.
It was look.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I enjoyed being there on Saturday night at Wellington. In fact,
Wellington had a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
There was a.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Charity lunch, the Champion's Charity Lunch on Friday. They raised
five hundred and eighty five grand for Life Light. A
brilliant day. There, a whole bunch of all Blacks up,
you know, giving their time and it was an awesome day.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
And then the game itself.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Will Jordan generational player, you know, you think of everybody
who's been chasing Doug Howlett for twenty years and hasn't
got there. How many might will Jordan get? He's on
fifty or fifty six tests. He could get seventy the
world record, sixty nine. He could be the world record
holder in a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Does just quickly before we move off the rugby, sav
does the France beating Australia by so much tell us
more about Australia than France given what we did to
France or.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
No, I think the French team was much better than
the one that toured here last year. My number one. Secondly,
the Australians are being the Australians again. They show heaps
of promise early in games and then they seem to
fall off the face of the earth. So continuing struggles
for the Aussies as we saw in Super Rugby. Look
a couple of negatives from the weekend, if I may,
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given your positivity the TMO, can they just bugger off
out of rugby? And secondly, the var in football is
too ridiculous. Have you ever seen a player yellow carter
than a rugby game sits down on the seat at
halfway shaking his head, then he gets called back onto
the field.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Ridiculous, Too much of it and it takes too long.
And it was applicable. You'd correct me if I'm wrong, Jason,
it was applicable on the football. I mean the amount
of time they spent happen.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
The Norwegian's got the goal ruled out because of Harlan's push,
But that happens, Jason. You'd confirmed every corner in every
football game at that level, there's always pushing and showing.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Yeah, the shades of gray have just become so blurred, guys,
you're right. And then there was that situation yesterday where
the Argentinian was given the yellow card. VA I said,
hang on, come and have a look. I think the
Swiss bloke has dived. The refuent had a look, he
had dived and that was that guy's second yellow, So
he's off.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
There's a lot of confusion around it.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Honestly, that TMO on Saturday night in Wellington and in
fat guys, the refereeing performance was very confusing, very confused.
I mean, Ruben love what you say. He sat down
and then had a look at it. I actually come
back on Ruben. There was a try that was scored
and converted and then the TMO is still getting involved
and yeah, like let the guys on the field do
the work and for serious foul play bringing the team exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Is the Was the Brendan McCullum thing a thing? Or
was he he was always too many nightclubs, too many
problems with the captain, too many.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
How many problems? Too many problems? Ben Stokes announcing his
retirement during the blooming game and then putting himself up
the order. I think something had to happen. He's staying
on as white ball coach and get that. But I
think baseball test level. I think the poems are just
signing or the English rather are sickond tired of it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
But can you if you have a policy. I don't
know whether this is that policy, but if you have
a policy of having one coach for all forms of
the game and then you second from one form of
the game, don't you have to second from the other
form of the game or do you change the rules
just depending on who the person is.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
But I think the way they're trying to play it
test well. I think it worked initially right under Stokes
as well and McCullum, but it hasn't worked recently, and
I think the English have decided right, he's okay for
the white ball team because that's McCullum. That's the bringda McCullum.
Give everything a crack right, swashbuckling, but not a test level.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Okay, quick one Jason who wins the World Cup? Just
for the record, give me the two finalists and the
ultimate winner.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
France against England. France win it.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, probably probably you both can with it. I think
England's going to have to play better against Argentina, but
they should make more.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I got to say, sev, having followed your decision to
charge forty four ninety five for the football behind your paywall,
I line that money up against Connor McGregor's forty four
ninety five and you would have got one more value
for money.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, a lot more value for manners. I would imagine that.
I would imagine the conom mc gregor subscriptions exceeded expectation
as well.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
You reckon how many? How long do you have to go?
Because I mean it's easy to say with the benefit
of hindsight, but the guy hasn't been around for five years.
You know what, What were the odds of him being
able to come back in some sort of masterful way
that would lead you to go, oh my god, that's
a new.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Think better than that. I think it was just a
freak accident. Wasn't it just landed on his knee.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Because he's old, that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Freak accidents, that's what you call mate. I'm still getting
out of Russell. I'm still getting over Russell. I still
can't get out of bed properly.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Are you still in pain my ribs?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
I'm on my ape coffee this morning just to talk
to you.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You're still on the max of Jesus or whatever it
is you take when you're going to be back again
in two years time. So they do it every twenty
four months. When they come to you and you're like
sixty eight or sixty nine, they're going to go up
one more time.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Sam, I reckon. The key might be to start training
further than three weeks out.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, what about who you mean?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
That's your story?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And I don't think people are taking this, don't understand
what's going on. This guy is. I mean, it's one
thing for New Zealand to lead the competition. That's fantastic.
He's only in his third season.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
He's I mean, we've had some great Supercars drivers, haven't we.
You know McLachlan, Van Gisberg and Murphy all of them.
And he yes, you say, Mike at his young age,
what was he on the podium all three races?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You're testing me in the first race, but I think
almost certainly, yes, he won the second that was the
most impressive. When he came second, he's.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Leading the championship. If he goes on and wins it,
he's one bad, thirsty He's done everything already in supercars.
He's what is he twin three?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
You say?
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Is that your next question?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Where's we go? Does he go to NASCAR? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
No, no, no, no, you don't get.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It, Indy car, what do you go to car?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
He might go. I haven't talked to him about single
seat of versus. I think there's only experienced. I think
he's the classic. He's gone through the eighty six's and
all that sort of stuff. I don't know that he's
got a lot of experience in a single city. You've
got to be, in my experience, you've got to be
a person that aims to be a single seated driver
as opposed to a you know, like a like a
NASCAR or a supercar.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
You've got to have that thing about you, And I
don't know that he does.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Yeah, Scotty mclock and he's giving it a crack.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Isn't he an Indy Carr? I guess you know. But
he was a terrific.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Supercars driver, of course, But you know, so maybe pains
cut from the same cloth.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Maybe next time next time we have him, and I
will ask him it's a question well worth having Scott Dixon,
who I've got on the program tomorrow. You can't overstate
that hither, can you? I mean, you're in a team
for twenty five years and.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It never happens in motor racings. No, never exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
And I'm assuming, Oh, what's his face? Zach Brown's behind
it too, isn't he Zach runs the team? He'd be
straight on the phone to Scott Dixon. That would have
been a one on one, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Imagine? So is it a great booking to his career
that he ends up with a team with strong New
Zealand ties?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Still, well, that's isn't that one of the questions I
want to ask him tomorrow? Like how did the I mean,
what does that play a fact? I mean, it's a
nice thing.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Was that one of the key decisions? Yep?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Give us a basic question line, give us a well
you're doing nothing else, clearly just laying on the bed
with your coffees. Fire off a couple of questions, make
them interesting. Start off with the interesting ones first, so
I don't get bored easily. But the what is he
going there? For Jason, is he going there to win?
Is he going to there to say I did it
in more than one team?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Or yeah, that feels like I mean he's got nothing
left to prove, Sir Scott Dixon. I mean he's done
everything in the sport. But knowing him, he's probably driven
by perfection. He's not going to go there just to
make up the numbers. I like the keyper connection things. Well, see,
these are all the These are the these are the questions.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
That will have that will have you find that through
a few tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Jace, feel free to contribute quick do you want to
when with a fun fact? I've only got fifteen seconds?
Fun fact? Who won Wimbledon this morning?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Sinner?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
How long did it take?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Three hours?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Three hours forty seven? If a game goes more than
three hours and fifty watts?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
His record, he's never been beaten, He's never he's never won,
he's never won, he's never won, he's never won, zero
for nine when the game goes more than three fifty
and he did it in three forty seven.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
He's Andrew sevill on a tennis court.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Isn't he very similar? Side profile? You can't tell the difference.
They say nice to see you, guys, Andrew Savil Jason Pine.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
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