July 19, 2026 • 11 mins
Andrew Saville and Jason Pine join Mike Hosking to review the weekend's sport.
On the table today: Ryan Fox has won the British open.
The World Cup Final is underway - and the weekend gave us a third-place playoff of the ages.
And it's been a positive weekend for NZ Rugby, with both the ABs and Warriors winning in Auckland.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My sense of it so far, and obviously I'm distant
because I really don't care. But my sense of it
is the halftime show is immeasurably better than the quality
of the football. Would that be a fair assessment?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Nil, all at halftime a bit, a bit of innks
back and forth, Jason, How are.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You utter nonsense? This halftime show? Utter nonsense? What are
we watching?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Super Bowl? Just get the football back on?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Well?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
What football? The role around on the grass and sort
of score no goals football? I like the what would
you rather say? Good morning to you? What would you
rather have? Would you might have had what I'm sure Jason.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Would you would have enjoyed you would have enjoyed yesterday?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Well, that's my question.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
That's my question.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Would you rather have a no one cares third and
fourth place game with a pile of goals? Or do
you want some sort of supertense exchange where in the
fire where nothing happens.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Well it's no, it's supertense because it's the World Cup final. Mate,
Yesterday was a playoff for bronze, which no one wanted
to play. No one really defended that stoutly, and that's
why you get ten goals, completely different, completely different mindset.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, but it's like your shoulders cramping up on the
eighteenth at Royal Birkdale, isn't it. You just let it
fly in the next thing. You know, you're a champion.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I tell you what. They didn't did they? That has
to go down. That has to go down along with
Bob Charles Michael Campbell Didier Coe as one of the
great sporting achievements in New Zealand history. To win the
Open when he was tied for fifty second and only
just made the cut after two rounds. My understanding is
(01:30):
that it's the biggest comeback in golf major history. And
then to win with that birdie put, which wasn't easy
on the eighteenth he admits his hands were all over
the show. And to win the Open Championship. Ryan Fox,
what an amazing morning, What an amazing achievement.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, I agree, don't you think? Jason and we had
Wheelhouse on and I'm standing by for him to join
a short. He's got the international stuff to do. But
it's it's because I was up. I happened to watch
it and it was I mean, it's I don't like
Lynx God because there's so much crapshoot about it, but
he was. He didn't look for a moment like he
was not up to the occasion.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Never And even when things didn't go well on fifteen,
I think he had he had trouble on fifteen, didn't
need any He kind of took advantage of the par
five on the seventeen to get out of it of trouble.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
But that birdie at the end.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I mean three perfect shots yep on eighteen, the t shot,
the approach, the parts I mean for Ryan Fox, Look,
he's just got the hang of it, hasn't he.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I think the wins he had on the PGA Tour
last year have really helped him and to win the
Open Championship. It's, as Sef said, so infrequent in our history,
one of the great sporting moments. I just and and
what a champion of a man as well. We all
know Ryan Fox. You've all had the chance to chat
to him. Just a just a down to earth, normal
(02:51):
New Zealander who is just just brilliant at golf.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
It's a great story, as you know, mate, He's never changed.
The five million prize money will never change. And the
fact he's made Open winner. Won't won't change. Ryan Fox
comes from a great family, great family support. Over the years,
he's battled through ups and downs, you know in his
golfing careers most golfers do right. But to see him
(03:15):
today on the eighteenth and just nail that drive, nail
that approach shot will go down as one of the
great Kiwi golf shots of all and understand the three
and a half meters with his ping putter positioned perfectly
didn't look like this must have been the nerves must
have been jangling so much and then he nails it.
(03:35):
Eddie would have gone to a playoff that he had
if he had missed that part. Who knows what's happened.
And Mike, you've played enough golf mate, to realize. It's
a sport where not only are you battling the rest
of the field, you're battling the course, You're battling your
own mind. You're battling your physical state. And anything, any
minute tweak in your golf swing, any little era, can
(03:59):
totally ruin your whole round. It is such a precise sport.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It's an amazing thought like that, isn't it? But having
are you answered it? Jason I think so. I posed
the question earlier if you could win a major, would
it be this one or would you go the Masters?
And you seem to indicate that you'd win the Open.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, yeah, but like you, Mike, I mean Link Link's
golf is a you know, the defense of the course
is the wind, which actually hasn't been there this weekend.
The Masters has got the prestige about it, but it's
it feels a bit more like Disneyland to me when
you watch the Masters.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
This is this is pure golf.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Look, if you want any of them, you're right up there.
The exemptions he gets, now, Ryan Fox, five years at
all of the majors, now, the prize money aside, but yeah,
look he's I mean, it's just just a brilliant way
to start the week.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Do you think the fact that Royal Birkdale was absolutely parched?
It reminded me of a kei we golf course, a
bit of a go param in the middle of summer.
Do you think, do you, Brian Fox? That helped him
a little bit of home. But I mean the fair
amount it is.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I mean you say that and I was watching the
ball would roll for a mile. But I mean the
problem in the Links golf course. It can roll for
a mile left or right, or then come back on
you and go into a bunk or a you know,
tussic or And that's the weird thing about it. Wasn't
I have to bolt through this andrew the World Cups
as a whole thing.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Your view?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Three countries, forty eight teams, Spain or Argentina will win
it as an event? What do you think?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Yeah? I thought I thought it initially, Mike. It might
have been overblown with that many teams, And I've quite
enjoyed it. It has gone on a long time, but
I enjoyed. I enjoyed a lot of the pool games.
I enjoyed the atmosphere. I thought the venues were fantastic
and I think probably the two best teams made the final.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, Parney, Yeah, I would have liked to say France there.
But but yeah, all of that, all of that stuff.
I mean, I'm going to miss it. Actually, one hundred
and four games. I thought it was going to be
a lot too, But I'm not quite sure what I'm
going to do tomorrow, So yeah, I'm going to miss it.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
What about that idea?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
What I read it?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
What are they in sixty four or whatever. I mean,
that's that's just insane, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
That's ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Is it the
nixt Cup begins in South America for the anniversary.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Uruguay. Yeah, that's it. It starts and yeah nineteen.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
But it's not hosted. Yeah, it's not hosted by South Americans.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Mind you. They made the money and that's all they're into,
aren't they. I mean that they made billions and billions
of dollars. It's the wealthiest sport in the world. I
guess sav AB's does what we saw over the weekend,
along with the other two weeks, justify the Reny decision.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
To hire Dave Rennie.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Completely, Yeah, they've improved every week, which we've wanted to see.
Those Irish players at Irish Team and o mugs and
the all blacks and large patches of that game made
them look really second rate. So I thought it was
a very good performance to playing at pace. So Damien
McKenzie playing with Freedom, had his best game in a
black jersey for a long time. Patrick Tuopolo to a
(07:00):
new lease of life. So I think clearly the coaches
as each week goes on and leading up into the
South African tour and in South Africa, I think this
coaching group is getting even more out of these players,
which is what you want to see. And you want
the All Blacks to go back to how they used
to play, with some real punch up front and entertaining football.
(07:21):
And yes, they do have a great chance of maybe
not winning well, winning the series in South Africa is
going to be extremely difficult, but winning the odd Test
over the year is now not impossible. Biney.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Just clarity, just clarity of what is required. I reckon,
You listen to Dave Rennie and he says something and
you understand it. I reckon internally, that's exactly what's happened here.
Those players are one hundred percent clear and what is
required of them. Basically, he probably just says, right, here's
what I want you to do, and they say, okay,
we'll go out there and do it.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
There's no confusion, there's no gray area, there's.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Nothing other than total clarity in the way that he
wants them to play.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
And yeah, I think they've they are a really.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Good chance of I mean, it seems odd to say it,
doesn't it, but to square that series in South Africa
and Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I think two to two would be a really really
good result.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Interesting the I rose at the re start of the show,
saf there's no reason why the Warriors. We talk about
the Warriors and you know, playoffs and all that stuff.
It's no reason why the Warriors can't be the minor premiers.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
You thought about that, yeah, I have. Do you think
Penrith will lose.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Another Penrith are off the boil? Penrith have been missed
mentally and there's no state.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Of origin its state of origin hangover? Is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I don't know what it is. I don't care, but
all I know is that we're two points off the
league and there's no reason why we can't win the premiership.
And no one's talked about that so far. When the
premiership and win the entire title all in one year,
why not.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, they've got to they've got to put away teams.
That's in George easier though.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
No, Well, they played Penrith.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
They played Penrith and that that game in itself, they
play them at go media. What a couple of weeks
three weeks two, three weeks that and you're right, the way,
the way is clear for them seven games to go.
I reckon they can totally be minor premiers.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, I reckon, there's no reason why not. Hey, just
if you either of you can be bothered. My little
motor racing thing of the weekend, which is quite cute.
Speaking of Ryan Fox and Bob Charles and history. Liam
Lawson was at the Goodwood, you know, the Goodwood Speed Festival.
So he got to drive They drive a highlight of cars,
you know, and.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Drive McLaren's Ford GT.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Didn't he He drove that. He drove McLaren's GT. Exactly,
Denny Holm, McLaren And if the people don't know the story,
that was the GT. The GDO that was built to win,
to win Leamon and they won one, they got one
and two and that car was there and he drove that.
So there was a little piece of Q.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I think one of his teammates of someone else drove
Denny Holmes, Yeah, Ford as well. What a great thrill exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
And you can tell, you know, when you know people,
you can tell people when they say, oh that was
really cool, thank you, they don't mean it. Versus when
they were genuinely blown away by an exp and they
got the full weight of history and what they were
part of it.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
He looked to what I saw. Yeah, he looks so excited. Amazing,
amazing noise, obviously amicable, an amazing Kiwi history. Just back
to the golf mind. Do you realize in one hundred
and sixty six years of golf majors there's been two
hundred and thirty winners only, and now we have another
new Zealander on that podium. That's an important point.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
That's what makes today so significant. As I tried to
explain earlier, this is global. So golf is global, Basketball
is global, Tennis is global, Football's global, and we get
bogged down so much in sport that to be frank,
isn't as global.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
And this thing is the roll with golf in this country.
It's reasonably accessible, right, it's and it's been booming since COVID.
Will we ever have a Tennis Grand Slam Singles winner? Never?
Probably not, I'd say no. Somewhere down the track we
may well have another golf major winner or two, because
the sport again is reasonably accessible but popular in News
(11:00):
Island as well.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Well said nice to see you guys, You have a
good week. We'll catch up next Monday, Andrew Sevil Jason Pine.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
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My sense of it so far, and obviously I'm distant
because I really don't care. But my sense of it
is the halftime show is immeasurably better than the quality
of the football. Would that be a fair assessment?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Nil, all at halftime a bit, a bit of innks
back and forth, Jason, How are.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You utter nonsense? This halftime show? Utter nonsense? What are
we watching?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Super Bowl? Just get the football back on?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Well?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
What football? The role around on the grass and sort
of score no goals football? I like the what would
you rather say? Good morning to you? What would you
rather have? Would you might have had what I'm sure Jason.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Would you would have enjoyed you would have enjoyed yesterday?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Well, that's my question.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
That's my question.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Would you rather have a no one cares third and
fourth place game with a pile of goals? Or do
you want some sort of supertense exchange where in the
fire where nothing happens.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Well it's no, it's supertense because it's the World Cup final. Mate,
Yesterday was a playoff for bronze, which no one wanted
to play. No one really defended that stoutly, and that's
why you get ten goals, completely different, completely different mindset.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, but it's like your shoulders cramping up on the
eighteenth at Royal Birkdale, isn't it. You just let it
fly in the next thing. You know, you're a champion.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I tell you what. They didn't did they? That has
to go down. That has to go down along with
Bob Charles Michael Campbell Didier Coe as one of the
great sporting achievements in New Zealand history. To win the
Open when he was tied for fifty second and only
just made the cut after two rounds. My understanding is
(01:30):
that it's the biggest comeback in golf major history. And
then to win with that birdie put, which wasn't easy
on the eighteenth he admits his hands were all over
the show. And to win the Open Championship. Ryan Fox,
what an amazing morning, What an amazing achievement.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, I agree, don't you think? Jason and we had
Wheelhouse on and I'm standing by for him to join
a short. He's got the international stuff to do. But
it's it's because I was up. I happened to watch
it and it was I mean, it's I don't like
Lynx God because there's so much crapshoot about it, but
he was. He didn't look for a moment like he
was not up to the occasion.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Never And even when things didn't go well on fifteen,
I think he had he had trouble on fifteen, didn't
need any He kind of took advantage of the par
five on the seventeen to get out of it of trouble.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
But that birdie at the end.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I mean three perfect shots yep on eighteen, the t shot,
the approach, the parts I mean for Ryan Fox, Look,
he's just got the hang of it, hasn't he.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I think the wins he had on the PGA Tour
last year have really helped him and to win the
Open Championship. It's, as Sef said, so infrequent in our history,
one of the great sporting moments. I just and and
what a champion of a man as well. We all
know Ryan Fox. You've all had the chance to chat
to him. Just a just a down to earth, normal
(02:51):
New Zealander who is just just brilliant at golf.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
It's a great story, as you know, mate, He's never changed.
The five million prize money will never change. And the
fact he's made Open winner. Won't won't change. Ryan Fox
comes from a great family, great family support. Over the years,
he's battled through ups and downs, you know in his
golfing careers most golfers do right. But to see him
(03:15):
today on the eighteenth and just nail that drive, nail
that approach shot will go down as one of the
great Kiwi golf shots of all and understand the three
and a half meters with his ping putter positioned perfectly
didn't look like this must have been the nerves must
have been jangling so much and then he nails it.
(03:35):
Eddie would have gone to a playoff that he had
if he had missed that part. Who knows what's happened.
And Mike, you've played enough golf mate, to realize. It's
a sport where not only are you battling the rest
of the field, you're battling the course, You're battling your
own mind. You're battling your physical state. And anything, any
minute tweak in your golf swing, any little era, can
(03:59):
totally ruin your whole round. It is such a precise sport.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It's an amazing thought like that, isn't it? But having
are you answered it? Jason I think so. I posed
the question earlier if you could win a major, would
it be this one or would you go the Masters?
And you seem to indicate that you'd win the Open.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, yeah, but like you, Mike, I mean Link Link's
golf is a you know, the defense of the course
is the wind, which actually hasn't been there this weekend.
The Masters has got the prestige about it, but it's
it feels a bit more like Disneyland to me when
you watch the Masters.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
This is this is pure golf.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Look, if you want any of them, you're right up there.
The exemptions he gets, now, Ryan Fox, five years at
all of the majors, now, the prize money aside, but yeah,
look he's I mean, it's just just a brilliant way
to start the week.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Do you think the fact that Royal Birkdale was absolutely parched?
It reminded me of a kei we golf course, a
bit of a go param in the middle of summer.
Do you think, do you, Brian Fox? That helped him
a little bit of home. But I mean the fair
amount it is.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I mean you say that and I was watching the
ball would roll for a mile. But I mean the
problem in the Links golf course. It can roll for
a mile left or right, or then come back on
you and go into a bunk or a you know,
tussic or And that's the weird thing about it. Wasn't
I have to bolt through this andrew the World Cups
as a whole thing.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Your view?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Three countries, forty eight teams, Spain or Argentina will win
it as an event? What do you think?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Yeah? I thought I thought it initially, Mike. It might
have been overblown with that many teams, And I've quite
enjoyed it. It has gone on a long time, but
I enjoyed. I enjoyed a lot of the pool games.
I enjoyed the atmosphere. I thought the venues were fantastic
and I think probably the two best teams made the final.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, Parney, Yeah, I would have liked to say France there.
But but yeah, all of that, all of that stuff.
I mean, I'm going to miss it. Actually, one hundred
and four games. I thought it was going to be
a lot too, But I'm not quite sure what I'm
going to do tomorrow, So yeah, I'm going to miss it.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
What about that idea?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
What I read it?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
What are they in sixty four or whatever. I mean,
that's that's just insane, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
That's ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Is it the
nixt Cup begins in South America for the anniversary.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Uruguay. Yeah, that's it. It starts and yeah nineteen.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
But it's not hosted. Yeah, it's not hosted by South Americans.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Mind you. They made the money and that's all they're into,
aren't they. I mean that they made billions and billions
of dollars. It's the wealthiest sport in the world. I
guess sav AB's does what we saw over the weekend,
along with the other two weeks, justify the Reny decision.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
To hire Dave Rennie.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Completely, Yeah, they've improved every week, which we've wanted to see.
Those Irish players at Irish Team and o mugs and
the all blacks and large patches of that game made
them look really second rate. So I thought it was
a very good performance to playing at pace. So Damien
McKenzie playing with Freedom, had his best game in a
black jersey for a long time. Patrick Tuopolo to a
(07:00):
new lease of life. So I think clearly the coaches
as each week goes on and leading up into the
South African tour and in South Africa, I think this
coaching group is getting even more out of these players,
which is what you want to see. And you want
the All Blacks to go back to how they used
to play, with some real punch up front and entertaining football.
(07:21):
And yes, they do have a great chance of maybe
not winning well, winning the series in South Africa is
going to be extremely difficult, but winning the odd Test
over the year is now not impossible. Biney.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Just clarity, just clarity of what is required. I reckon,
You listen to Dave Rennie and he says something and
you understand it. I reckon internally, that's exactly what's happened here.
Those players are one hundred percent clear and what is
required of them. Basically, he probably just says, right, here's
what I want you to do, and they say, okay,
we'll go out there and do it.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
There's no confusion, there's no gray area, there's.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Nothing other than total clarity in the way that he
wants them to play.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
And yeah, I think they've they are a really.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Good chance of I mean, it seems odd to say it,
doesn't it, but to square that series in South Africa
and Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I think two to two would be a really really
good result.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Interesting the I rose at the re start of the show,
saf there's no reason why the Warriors. We talk about
the Warriors and you know, playoffs and all that stuff.
It's no reason why the Warriors can't be the minor premiers.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
You thought about that, yeah, I have. Do you think
Penrith will lose.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Another Penrith are off the boil? Penrith have been missed
mentally and there's no state.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Of origin its state of origin hangover? Is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I don't know what it is. I don't care, but
all I know is that we're two points off the
league and there's no reason why we can't win the premiership.
And no one's talked about that so far. When the
premiership and win the entire title all in one year,
why not.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, they've got to they've got to put away teams.
That's in George easier though.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
No, Well, they played Penrith.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
They played Penrith and that that game in itself, they
play them at go media. What a couple of weeks
three weeks two, three weeks that and you're right, the way,
the way is clear for them seven games to go.
I reckon they can totally be minor premiers.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, I reckon, there's no reason why not. Hey, just
if you either of you can be bothered. My little
motor racing thing of the weekend, which is quite cute.
Speaking of Ryan Fox and Bob Charles and history. Liam
Lawson was at the Goodwood, you know, the Goodwood Speed Festival.
So he got to drive They drive a highlight of cars,
you know, and.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Drive McLaren's Ford GT.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Didn't he He drove that. He drove McLaren's GT. Exactly,
Denny Holm, McLaren And if the people don't know the story,
that was the GT. The GDO that was built to win,
to win Leamon and they won one, they got one
and two and that car was there and he drove that.
So there was a little piece of Q.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I think one of his teammates of someone else drove
Denny Holmes, Yeah, Ford as well. What a great thrill exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
And you can tell, you know, when you know people,
you can tell people when they say, oh that was
really cool, thank you, they don't mean it. Versus when
they were genuinely blown away by an exp and they
got the full weight of history and what they were
part of it.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
He looked to what I saw. Yeah, he looks so excited. Amazing,
amazing noise, obviously amicable, an amazing Kiwi history. Just back
to the golf mind. Do you realize in one hundred
and sixty six years of golf majors there's been two
hundred and thirty winners only, and now we have another
new Zealander on that podium. That's an important point.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
That's what makes today so significant. As I tried to
explain earlier, this is global. So golf is global, Basketball
is global, Tennis is global, Football's global, and we get
bogged down so much in sport that to be frank,
isn't as global.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
And this thing is the roll with golf in this country.
It's reasonably accessible, right, it's and it's been booming since COVID.
Will we ever have a Tennis Grand Slam Singles winner? Never?
Probably not, I'd say no. Somewhere down the track we
may well have another golf major winner or two, because
the sport again is reasonably accessible but popular in News
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Island as well.
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