Full Show Podcast: 06 August 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk to
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Greater Purpose, News Talks Dead b Well, you welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Today the Justice Minister and the Lotto present are a
yet more uselessness in the public service. A new plan
for more exercise for us. We got a new plan
to save netball as well. We're going to look at
one hundred years of zb with Leyton Smith after eight
Joe McKenna's and Italy n de Brady does the business
for the UK pasking. We welcome you to Thursday morning,
seven past six. Now I'm trying to work out in
this Council of Algamation back and forward, how many who

(00:32):
aren't amalgamating are genuinely stuck versus how many are simply
sticking it up the government because one they don't like
the government and or two they don't like being told
what to do. Councilors, of course, are the bane of
our lives. We're over counseled, we're overrated. We should be
immeasurably grateful to the central government who are one capping
rates and two reducing the number of these groups The
deadline to submit your plan is this weekend. As always,

(00:55):
there are a decent number who haven't been able to
get there, or if they have, it'll be close to
the deadline. Another part of the problem is, of course,
we don't care our participation rate via voting as a joke.
I note ironically the other day the Auckland Council set
up a committee to work out why their turnout was
only twenty eight percent. I could help them there, get
rates down and produce fewer committees. The only reason you

(01:16):
can argue against amalgamation is if you're power hungry. Seventy
plus councils in this country really a tiny island nation
with a handful of people who need them. They thank
you over seventy councils, tiny little operations with duplication of
services all over the place, or with their own rules,
regulations and staffing costs, all with their weird variation and

(01:37):
interpretation of governance. If ever there was a case for
less is more, we have it. But oh no, Like
recalcitrant children, they're holding out. I assume some of them
because they hope Labour get back and let them get
on with their orgy of waste. And inefficiency. When those
who don't submit rely on the so called back up plan,
they'll moan about that as well. Of course, the sad

(01:58):
truth or out working of this sort of behavior is
the revelation that these people are not really about us.
They're not really about their community. They're about themselves. They
are power grabbers and control freaks. They love their insignificant
little fifdoms and love to lord their perceived power over others.
Come deadline, and come the capping of the rates and
the reduction of the council numbers. Not to mention the
water amalgamation. Is there a single person outside those whose

(02:22):
power is being disabled that will actually miss what we
currently have?

Speaker 3 (02:27):
What used of the world in ninety seven?

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Well, Michigan's spoken and the bloke from the far left
has one.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
They think that you want to use my whole name
against me, Mike, listen, man, if you can't say the
name is Abderrahman, keep the name out your damn mouth.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Now, given the other results, this now seems a move
to the left trend for the Dems.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
The dericrat Party is now Blockbuster. These kids are Netflix.
We are selling CDs out the trunk.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
This is a napster becoming Spotify, and that's happening to that.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I will give you the straight deal. By the way,
shortly but Ed Milliban and or the men they call
ed Miller Watt has arrived to talk about the obvious
with marcare.

Speaker 7 (03:06):
Of any silent progress, And.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Of course we're going to that's what a kind of
question we canna be talking about Ukraine and intergalactic affairs.
And then we get to Britain with the Tories have
selected a blow called Joshua to run for an election
in Somerset trouble as Joshua was a former neo Nazi
convicted of anti Semitism. Government can't believe us.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
The judge in his sentencing remarks when he.

Speaker 8 (03:31):
Was convicted said it was difficult to imagine a worse
case of racially aggravated harassment.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Badenkoch says he's reformed, he's a bit of men. So
some seemingly have got on board with that.

Speaker 7 (03:42):
If someone works hard to counter the anti Jewish hatred
that they once saw to spread, I think we should
all consider that a success.

Speaker 9 (03:51):
So we're keeping an open mind.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, it doesn't Marie matter anyway, because he's pulled the
pennies out then for the coppers. You may remember Chris Kaba,
black Man fatally shot by the police BAK in twenty two.
Officer was acquitted at the time of murder, but the
ensuing investigation has also been dropped out.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
It is unacceptable an officer who goes out to face
danger on behalf of the public as his life got
on hold for that period of time. The professionalism of
our firearms officers is extraordinary. We're only firing shots on
one or two occasions.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
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(04:40):
that's news of the world of entrepreneurialism and moment. Job
numbers not good. This is private companies in America. Forty
four thousand and four July is that good? No slow
down from the ninety five to prior month, and it
was below expectation, and virtually all the jobs came in healthcare,
So the economy is slow. In twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
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Speaker 2 (05:07):
There's a brit you can't make it our fay straight
from the Ministry of Justice. Paul Goldsmith should be all
over this. There's a press conference at nine o'clock this
morning to announce the opening date for the CRL. This
has become a thing because it's top secret and everyone
gets excited. Whence you say things a top secret? Anyway,

(05:27):
at Auckland Transport have gone and put up a billboard
this morning giving the date away. I mean, by the way,
the date is the thirteenth of September. If you care.
Fifteen past six, the best things in life are free
gentl tirt copings, what's the point? Sure and partners. Andrew
Kella had very good morning there in the body. Mike

(05:48):
worked me through the five point six and its various massinations.

Speaker 10 (05:52):
Yeah, so we now know how excuse me, how the
labor market responded in the second court of the year.
It's an interesting one, Mike. It's not straightforward analysis. There
is an interesting mix of forces there headline the unemployment rate,
which everyone probably knows. Now that's the metric that's most visible.
Five point six percent, up zero point two percent on
the previous quarter and the highest we've seen probably since

(06:15):
twenty fifteen, I think. And the previous quarter was revised
up from five point three to five point four, so
a little at the top end of expectations that we
talked about yesterday at a high level, Mike. These these
numbers are portraying a soft labor market with a.

Speaker 9 (06:30):
Bit of spare capacity.

Speaker 10 (06:31):
There was quite a lot of focus yesterday on the
underutilization rate. Put simply, that's people who are working, who
want more work, who people are.

Speaker 9 (06:39):
Unemployed or want to be employed.

Speaker 10 (06:41):
That underutilization rates at thirteen point eight percent, and that's
lifted from twelve point nine.

Speaker 9 (06:45):
That also hasn't been.

Speaker 10 (06:47):
That high since you know, those sort of maybe twenty thirteen.
The number of long term unemployed is also lifting. We've
added another eight thousand people to the group classified as as.

Speaker 9 (06:57):
Long term unemployed.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 10 (06:59):
This is where it it's interesting because one of the
contributing factors to a lift in the unemployment rate was
a lift in the participation rate at seventy point seven
versus seventy point three expected.

Speaker 9 (07:10):
It was seventy point four beforehand.

Speaker 10 (07:12):
So for reasons that we don't really have a lot
of insight into, more people are coming into the labor force,
which are into the workforce. Labor cost inflation up two percent,
that's under control. But another sort of key issue. Despite
the unemployment rate lifting employment, the number of people working
rows more than expected quarter on quarter, zero point five percent,

(07:34):
so quite a bit higher than expectations actually, so you've
got more people in the workforce, you know, more people
looking for work, more people employed, which is sort of
cast us sort of slightly different light on the fact
that the unemployment rate is drifted up point to note
a big difference between the North and South Islands. North
Island unemployment rate six percent, South On at three point seven,

(07:57):
so quite a bit different. Numbers still look pretty grim
for young people. The unemployment rate for twenty to twenty
fours twelve percent. The underutilization rate there well well into
the sort of thirty percents.

Speaker 9 (08:07):
But look, my employment is growing.

Speaker 10 (08:10):
There are more people in the labor force, so that
gives you an unemployment rate that's ticked up. You've got
a bigger pool of people involved in the market. And
the point that I would say here, Mike is if
you subscribe to the view that the economy is improving
and as long as we get a sustainable resolution in
the Middle East, I think it's generally there is general
agreement that the economy is improving. That basically, that's what

(08:34):
I think is that that employment growth that we're seeing
will absorb that initialill increase in supply. In other words,
the Partisian rate going up, participation rate going up. One
of the problems you got here is it's less than
three months until in election and these things are going
to take a little bit of time to work out
and it will be a sensitive top eer. So there's
actually some good trends in there, but at the headline level,

(08:56):
you've got an increase in the unemployment rate.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Right.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Taught me through SpaceX and the speed and where we're
at and the campags and all that stuff and are
we going to Mars?

Speaker 9 (09:04):
This is crazy stuff, isn't it so?

Speaker 10 (09:07):
SpaceX Massive news around the IPO of twelfth of June
one hundred and thirty five dollars with the IPO price
value the business at one pointe and there's just these
ridiculous numbers. Value the business at one business at one
point seventy seven trillion dollars. Subsequent trading propelled Elon Musk
to his unique status as a trillionaire, which itself is
hard to fathom. Since then, the share price has gone

(09:28):
down to one hundred.

Speaker 9 (09:28):
And eight bucks.

Speaker 10 (09:29):
Now, we've got a couple of key events in the
last twenty four hours.

Speaker 9 (09:32):
Yesterday they released their results.

Speaker 10 (09:34):
So it does this business actually make any money?

Speaker 9 (09:35):
And the answer that is not.

Speaker 10 (09:37):
But also Thursday us time, a series of shareholders who
have been what we call locked up are now free
to sell their shares. In otherwis there's a whole bunch
of people that could actually create more selling. Look, as
I said, the company is running at a loss. Just
these staggering numbers in here. The capital expenditure at the
moment on this business, which is losing money, they're spending
currently running at eighteen point four billion dollars, most of

(09:59):
which is going to AI build out. Market's pretty sensitive
for that in the moment, But according to mister Musk,
they're building AI compute capacity at a scale faster than
anybody else anywhere. They want to increase their capacity from
two gigawatts to ten gigawatsch one of that they would
be one of the largest data center footprints in the world.

Speaker 9 (10:19):
But they only.

Speaker 10 (10:20):
Lost five hundred and forty one million dollars. They've got
seven point eight billion dollars of revenue. Was actually more
than they expected. But here's the figure that you just
look at and you go, really, he thinks that revenue
by twenty thirty for this business will be one trillion dollars.
The market's sort of taken this all. I mean, the

(10:40):
share price is down, but it's just kind of crazy.
I've said at the time that you'd need a strong,
a strong constitution to own space six years and it's
been arrived, and I think that is still the case.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
So what comes first is trillions or as Tesla roads
to that he's promising. I'm just not sure where they
who would know, Mike the old delivery quotion there now
anyway numbers please, So.

Speaker 9 (11:00):
A bit of a mix.

Speaker 10 (11:01):
This morning, Dow Jones is up four hundred and fifty
six points point eight four percent, fifty four thousand, five
hundred and forty three. The S and P five hundred
sort of flat up nine points point one percent seven
seven four five. The Nansacks actually lower down point four
to six percent one hundred and twenty three points twenty
six thousand, four hundred and sixty one fort two one
hundred up small overnight up nine points ten thousand, eight

(11:21):
hundred and eighty eight, the NIKA up two thousand, three
hundred and forty three points three point six six percent,
so a big move there, sixty six thousand, three hundred close.
The Shanghai comps it up about one and a half
percent three eight seven eight the close there, and good day.
In Australasian markets, the A six two hundred point nine
percent eighty two points nine two two seven and the

(11:42):
NZCX fifty just to touch under forteen thousand, thirteen thousand,
nine hundred ninety seven point sixty seven percent. Keemi dollar
point five eight nine zero against the US point eight
three four one, OSSI point five nine seven Euro point
four three seven three against the pound, Japanese end ninety
two point eight seven against Kimido Gold has had a
lift two hundred and fifty two dollars breakthrough steady at

(12:04):
the moment, a little bit lower seventy eight dollars and
eighty eight cents.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
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Speaker 1 (12:36):
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Speaker 2 (12:48):
Indian Central Bank held over night five point two five,
which is quite high. They see a little bit of inflation.
They're a bit worried about. I should mention by the way,
that Michigan vote, which has potentially massive consequences load on
the year. It wasn't it wasn't wasn't he didn't stomp
home mold LSA. He captured forty eight point five percent
of the boat to Stevens forty seven point five. Speaking

(13:09):
of which six twenty.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
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Speaker 2 (13:15):
While we're watching Michigan, a Democratic congressional candidate, this is
why he didn't have the best of days. His name
is kirol Base and he's at the beach. Started getting
into an argument with a group over space.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
I told him, if he wants to go to hospital.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Come here.

Speaker 7 (13:31):
It is a.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Heck, yeah, yeah, I'm wrong, right, do go my dog, right,
I don't care, I'll do that.

Speaker 11 (13:45):
It's no thiss the goal.

Speaker 12 (13:49):
It's over.

Speaker 9 (13:49):
As a child, I'm.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
A child, I'm forty years old.

Speaker 12 (13:54):
A fighting brown.

Speaker 9 (13:59):
Hairy chareroller.

Speaker 12 (14:09):
Week off.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Anyway, when he's just wake up, he pushes the bloke,
picks up beach chair, hence the chair, throw a line
to throw the chair at them. Anyway, he gets knocked
out cold, so he does wake up, at which point
he's arrested a couple of fell on the terroristic threatening
charges for bringing out a knife. So bales currently set
at one million dollars an I'm assuming his electoral prospects
are not particularly high. Straight up him mos deal. Trump's

(14:32):
saying this morning to Dale's morrow trouble is a man
saying the talks are focused on a middle corridor that
would safeguard Iran's rights while taking Oman's concerns into account
so the strait could be open. In fact, the Americans
were saying straight was open yesterday, which is clearly rubbish.
But they're taking Iran's rights into accounts. So is this

(14:54):
the sort of degal Trump wants. We'll watch and wait
news in a couple of moments, then we'll read visit
this business of farmland v. Forestry? New numbers for you
this morning.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
In a noisy world here yourself.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Think it's the mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate.
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Speaker 2 (15:17):
The letter that was written for the EU to Spain
to sort of congratulate Sanchez on the way handle the
suitor thing with the Moroccans. EU don't seem to be
able to get the head around what the hell to
do about all this, so we'll talk to you about
it shortly. Back here at twenty three to seven. New
data this morning on the great debate over the land
conversion to forestry overall, the trend is slowing. Last year
though another thirty thousand hectares was converted from the old

(15:38):
beaten land to the forestry Kate Eckland as the beef
and Lamb chair, of course, and is back. Where's Kate?
Morning to you?

Speaker 13 (15:44):
Morning?

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Wake slowing? Are we seeing a trend or we don't know?

Speaker 14 (15:49):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (15:49):
Look, I mean it's great that there has been a reduction,
but do you think this are still really concerning because
these are whole farms that are going into trees, not
just pockets of trees in the right places. So we
don't know that. I think it shows it's really important
that we keep an eye on this.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
And so in the demand question though, is that fewer
people wanting to do it or are the rules working?

Speaker 15 (16:11):
I think the rules have definitely had an impact. I've
taken a bit of the confidence out. But you know,
another thirty thousand hectias is a really significant area.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yes it is. But what do you do as a
farmer and you want to sell your farm and the
person with the most money wants to plant trees?

Speaker 15 (16:26):
Now that you're absolutely right, and I think the other
thing that is helping slow the stream is actually the
fact that sheef and beef farming is going through some
really strong times at the moment, and we know that
our most productive chef and beef farmers are actually outperforming
carbon farming, and so that's you know, we're really focusing.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
That was my next question, because there's a libertarian why
don't you let the market do the talking in the
market at the moment if you're not in the beef
and sheep Given the numbers we had just yesterday from
the red meat people, I mean, that should solve your problem,
shouldn't it.

Speaker 15 (16:55):
Look that's absolutely the goal. But remember what's driving a
lot of this planting is not the forest market, it's
the ETS market. And prior to twenty eighteen, before the
cap came off, the ETS, we were only getting about
seven thousand hectares planted a year, and to be frank
that was probably seven thousand hectares that made sense, you know,
on the land it was getting planted on. But we're
seeing really good, productive, flat and rolling Hell country going

(17:19):
into trees just driven by that carbon price.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, what's you And looking at the numbers, so you've
got one hundred and thirty thousand if hectare since twenty
seventeen foreign owned companies versus you're eighty five thousand in
the carbon. What's your bigger concern, the foreign or the carbon.

Speaker 15 (17:35):
Look, it's the carbon that's the concern. Who owns it
is sort of largely irrelevant, but you know, it is
a concern that you've got these foreign companies in here
and sort of parking their carbon issues on New Zealand soils.
And you've got to think about what do we want
our landscapes in our country to look like in another
fifty years because those carbon forests will still be there

(17:55):
and they're not native. You know, it's largely pine trees
that's going in.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
And mind, do you reckon you're winning the debate or not.

Speaker 15 (18:03):
Look, I think we're bringing a lot of attention to
the debate. It's not about being anti forestry. Actually, forestry
is a really important sector for New Zealand's larger primary sector.
You know, this is purely about those whole carbon forests.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, first quarter of this year, so Jen Feb March
only thirteen hundred hectares. That a good sign for somebody
like you.

Speaker 15 (18:22):
It's not many, No, No, that is a good sign.
And twenty twenty five we were only about fifteen thousand
hectares so far, but we are expecting as those sales
come through the Overseas Investment Office debts, that number will
jump up. And you know we're expecting the same again
for the current year. But you know, as we said
at the start, we do need to keep an eye

(18:44):
on this.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, always a pleasure. Kate, appreciate it. Kate Acklan, who's
the beef and lamb New Zealand share those No one
seems to be recognizing the lack of and following with
a great deal of interest. You know, the Gold Visa,
with all the rich people coming to the country to
buy houses, they're not Now that doesn't mean so I
can't quite work out what's going on. Because the money
is enormous. So there are people coming in on the
Gold Visa, there's billions coming in, but there's only about

(19:06):
twenty five houses sold. So either very few people are
bringing in extraordinary amounts of money, or there are lots
of people bringing in lots of money but they don't
necessarily want a house, So that as an idea doesn't
seem to be firing up. I mean, it's good that
they can do it, because you want people coming into
the country. You want to buy a house, to be
able to buy a house, but there's not many actually

(19:28):
taking the opportunity up.

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(20:42):
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Speaker 14 (21:00):
Good money made.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
So Suitor Italy was the first cab off that particular
rink to do something about the border. So where are
we at. What's happened?

Speaker 14 (21:07):
Yeah, Well, as you know, seventy thousand estimated seventy thousand
migrants stormed into Spain from that enclave Seuta. The Italian
Prime Minister, Georgia Maloney yes, was quick to attack the
Spanish government for offering an amnesty to migrants. She immediately
suspended the Shangan arrangements that allow for passport free movement

(21:28):
between European countries, and she's pushing for the EU to
finance offshore migrant processing centers like the two Italy supported
in Albania. She wants to see them in Ghana, Rwanda
and Uganda.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Wow, so we got a Maloney v. Sanchez left v right?
Where's Europe sitting? And I mean, what chance Maloney gets
her way versus Sanchiez and media. They've got to do something,
don't they.

Speaker 14 (21:51):
They've got to do something. I think it was all
very conservative when the EU and TERIOR ministers met on Tuesday,
calling for tough actions. So what we're already seeing plans
or speculation of another surge of migrants taking place next
week in southern Spain, some speculation on social networks. But

(22:13):
the other thing I think that's important here, Mike is
the Italian Prime minister is also being a little bit
sneaky here because remember she's offering work permits to thousands
of people, and many of these are foreign workers that
are already in Italy. So I'm wondering if she's hedging
her beds a bit here.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Okay, we'll see what happens. So you're extending your diesel excise,
which is interesting because we extended ours Australia came out
of these and they've cut and run. So what are
your rules? I mean they just make it up to
the AILM.

Speaker 14 (22:47):
Well, yeah, it seems to be a lot of nervousness
I think in the government about the impact of these
energy prices on consumers. Obviously they're extending this exercise duty
reduction until the twenty fifth of August. It's costly, it's
you know, a two hundred and forty five million euro measure.
They're having to cut spending in other ministries to make

(23:08):
this happen, and that's also causing divisions within the government.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Has everyone gone out and bought an ev Are you
having that discussion like we are in a New Zealand Australia.

Speaker 14 (23:17):
Not enough, I don't think initially right enough?

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Are they really available? Is that a thing in Italy
or were you still in your chink with gent taste.

Speaker 14 (23:24):
Oh, you see them around, but not too many. You know,
few people plugging in their cars and various spots, but
not enough recharging locations.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
And it's only for diesel as opposed to regular petrol.

Speaker 14 (23:37):
Oh, that's a technical question.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm not a car driver. The technical question. So twenty
seven cities, what's the heat to Look? What do you
need to get to to trigger the heat A look?

Speaker 14 (23:49):
Oh, yeah, well it's severe, let's say that. But we've
got the nationwide heat wave. We're in our fourth heat wave.
I think temperatures close to forty degrees tomorrow and for
the first time ever, all twenty seven major Italian cities
will be on the highest heat.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Level A lerge.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
What does that mean?

Speaker 3 (24:08):
That means they are trying.

Speaker 14 (24:12):
They ask people to stay at home, particularly elderly vulnerable people,
keep out of the sun, restricting workers out in the
sun during these extreme hours of sunlight heat. But still
a lot of major disruption going on, droughts in the
po Valley in the north and plenty of plenty of

(24:33):
towns in the north of Italy with water supply difficulties.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Are you finding it arduous personally? I mean, or are
you just.

Speaker 16 (24:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (24:40):
I mean, I must admit I don't have air conditioning
at home and it's been a really tough summer.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Is amazing, all right, Joe, nice to see you. Catch up.

Speaker 14 (24:48):
Thanks Mike.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
It is not applicable to petrols, just diesel in Italy.
It's just it's a funny things. It's the adaptation. They're
going to have to start to adapt. I mean, you're
going to have to buy some mere con for a start.
And I told you about in France and I'm assuming
it's the same. You can't whack a unit on the
side of a wall because it's an old wall and
they love their old walls. So what do you want?
You want people dying of heat or do you want
you know, somemericon units on the side of walls. My
brother lives in Dubai. Currently forty two to forty three

(25:11):
degrees feels up fifty two, So guess what they do
while they got any conditioning for a start. By the way,
the heat is not putting people off. I'm reading yesterday
from traveling to a traveling from Asia to that part
of the world to Europe over the European summer searches
for European destinations from Asian travelers up fifty seven percent.
Northern Europe, which is a thing that's becoming increasingly popular.

(25:33):
Most popular though France, Italy is fain so the heat
means nothing. Flight bookings to southern and northern Europe grew
more than thirty percent from a year ago. Hotel bookings
have more than doubled. Interest in Scandinavy is growing over
the last two or three years. You're looking at Norway, Iceland, Finland,
the Dolomites, that sort of thing. Outward Bound travel and
spending in Norway is forecast to rise eight percent from

(25:55):
the Chinese and the Singaporeans. Finland forecast to rise eight
percent Chinese, three percent for the Singaporeans. So you might
escape the heat a little bit in the northern part
of Europe. But I mean the weather generally. Although we're
making a huge thing of it, people just get on
with life. Nine minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Got Mike Costing, Breakfast with Defender, Trophy, News Talks, thea'd be.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Goris Hapkins yesterday Question Time, massive dick of himself. So
he's standing up trying to convince everybody that the Prime
Minister can be the Prime Minister, but he's not the
prime minister when who is the leader of the National Party,
So as the leader of the National Party, you can't
take a plane back from Wanganui. Having lost that argument
because the Prime Minister is always the Prime Minister and
everybody knows that, he then stands up and says the

(26:38):
opposite about Winston Peters, who is trying to answer as
the leader of the New Zealand First Party, not the
foreign minister. When ju Nann was going at him the
Junan thing, if you don't follow it, and I know
him in the weeds, and I know I'm a nerd
and know that he watches question time like that was
probably the most intriguing, fascinating question time I've seen in years.

(27:00):
Brownley was working his large posterior off to try and
get Junan in as many SUPs as he possibly could,
and Winston was working pretty hard not to get caught
in the net. But the interesting thing about question time
is that the Greens aren't very good at it, and
the Maori Party aren't very good at it, and Labors
are only okay at it. Once you stray away from

(27:21):
written questions and Brownlee gives your latitude to move. They
don't appear to have the brain power to use it.
He was giving them an opportunity to go after Peter's
and they didn't know how to do it, and so
Peter's got away with it. But as I say, I'm
in the weeds on that stuff.

Speaker 12 (27:37):
If you had to analyze the demographs of people who
are into watching Question Time, yeap, do you reckon? There
are a lot of Mary Party voters and Green Party voters.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
That are watching it and not a lot of those people.

Speaker 12 (27:47):
It's a shame, asn't it.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
It's a shame five minutes away from seven, the ins
and the.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Outs, it's the fizz on the Mike Husking breakfast.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
If you listen to Question Time, you'd learn a lot
about the way this country is run. Our first full quarter, Disney,
what do we got? Third quarter operating income beat Wall
Street forecast? It's up twenty one percent. We're talking nine
and a half billion dollars worth of business revenues up
seven to forty two point eight. Parks and streaming they
did the business of the business. Entertainment division led the way.
Profits up sixty four percent. Toy Story five Big Part

(28:20):
went past the one billion market. The box office. Devil
was part of too did very well as well. That's
funny that I watched that this week. Great movie, great movie,
and I had to get Katie on board. I said,
let's watch Devil was part of two, and she went,
it's crap. Everyone says it's crap, and then she started
quoting rotten tomatoes as though that's the thing. Anyway, It

(28:41):
wasn't bad screaming wise, Disney don't give numbers anymore. But
income is doubled to one point two billion. Revenues up
eleven percent. Profit had experiences. This is your parks and
your cruises. That's up twenty percent. That'll be Jason's family,
the boss. The boss was there eating hot dogs and
candy glass and Coca cola and all that sort of
stuff recently, so that's where that money came from. Global

(29:02):
guest numbers up four percent. That's good. Esp and not
doing so well. They lost drop seventeen percent. They're blaming
the programming costs, but they also claim they'll eventually even out,
and they've made an announcement they're game to follow on
Netflix's footsteps and explore a free, ad supported streaming product
so you can pay less. But you'll get ads, so

(29:25):
I don't know what that means. Also, the other thing,
by the way this morning is if you're a TikToker
like me, you're able to use Disney product. The TV
shows and the films are that content you can use
now on your TikTok. So watch out. I'm all over
it like a rash. Now the Justice Department, Ah, how
about the Justice Department? Just the five years for old

(29:47):
Lotto Man, And funnily enough, the Minister's gone, hmmm, I
don't think that's very good. So what we need is
a rapid review.

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Speaker 2 (30:13):
It is seven past seven. Morning Job numbers to the
upside headline figure five point six under utilization rate up
all and still a problem for the whole country. Of course.
Allen McDonald's EMA's head of Advocacy and Strategy and is
with us. Ellen, very good morning.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
To you, morning Mike.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
The participation rate, though, is up, so I'm seeing more
job adds up. I'm seeing the participation rate up. We've
got to be close to a tipping point where the
jobs actually soak up the demand.

Speaker 15 (30:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
I think there were a couple of other little encouragement
encouraging indicators in there too. The number of jobs new
jobs crowed was thirteen thousand, and we saw a slight
dip in the neats. That's those eighteen to twenty four
year olds not an employment or education. So that's kind
of positive. And I also think that hopefully now we've
reached the peak. I mean, this is where we expected

(30:59):
to get. Treasury were forecasting this probably twelve eighteen months ago,
and these numbers are always a lag indicator. We know
that underlying there's some good stuff going on. So hopefully
this is the peak and we can start turning the
other way.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
The psychology of what we're dealing with, I mean, maybe
the so called war, the Strait whatever carries on for
a period of time. How do we get over that
hurdle and get on with life.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
Well, I think what we're seeing and it was quite instructive.
I think there was quite a sharp dip when the
Iron War happened in confidence in those and intentions, and
then it popped back up fairly quickly as well, because
what we're seeing more of is people going I'm not
going to wait, I'm going to hang around till circumstances

(31:44):
get better. I'm just going to get on with life.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
How does the election play here? Are we a bit
nervous about the election and therefore hold off on decision
making round hiring.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
I'm not sure that's a bigger factor as we like
to think. And again I'll come back to that mental Look,
we're just going to get on with stuff.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Does the North South thing bother you? At three points
something percent in the South, it's a world away from
the North. I know, I know it's farmers and all that.
I get all that, but that's a gap.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Well, anything closer to three is almost effectively zero unemployment.
But you need the big engine of Auckland, and the
city's really cranking as well, to give that extra impetus
into the economy, and that's not happening. And there are
parts of Auckland where unemployment, particularly in those meats, is
twenty to twenty five percent, and that's no good for anybody.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
No, it's crazy. Although I feel a vibe in Auckland
that it's coming, right, Is that real? Or am I
out to lunch?

Speaker 5 (32:42):
I think there's a little bit of optimism around finally
seeing the end of all the road cones and the
road closures and things might be happening. And the other
thing that's happening is Auckland's a big engine of manufacturing.
And the manufacturing story is quite strong too. We just
haven't seen that reflected in some of those employment numbers
and that sort of thing. But manufacturing is probably the
untold story around the success of say the exporters as well,

(33:05):
because many many manufacturers are also the exporters.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Let us hope for better days. Ellen nice to talk
to Ellen McDonald, Emay's head of advocacy. It is Can
I just say briefly this, You know, when we talk
about the fifteen sixteen year olds they so called neat
to unemployed. We should not in this country be registering
fifteen year olds. If you're a fifteen year old who's
not in school and not in training, there is no
way in the world you should be legally unemployed. I mean,
that's just a social and moral crime. So they shouldn't

(33:30):
even be in the numbers. Ten minutes past seven the
Ministry of Justice hardly enhanced the public services reputation. Of course,
So we've got this rapid review. It's underway after they
managed to have Russell Harrison on more than half a
million dollars in salary over five years, despite the fact
he didn't actually do any work. Paul Goldsmith as the
man who's called the review Justice Minister morning, Good morning,
mikeel So you've got an apology. Does that mean anything?

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Well, yes it does.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
It shows that the Ministry and the Secretary takes at Syria.
But obviously, you know, I'm angry as anything, as most
New Zealanders are when they read of the kind of
series of almost comical mistakes made over five years that
have meant that money has been wasted, and you know
it kind of undermines people's confidence.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
No kidding, So what's what's the point of a rapid review?
But I mean, it's not going to find out what
we already know. Isn't it that they're a bit useless?

Speaker 11 (34:22):
No?

Speaker 9 (34:23):
No, No, it's it's broader than that.

Speaker 6 (34:24):
I mean, look, I've had high levels of confidence in
the Ministry of Justice and in the Secretary for the
last two and a half years, We've made great progress
on restoring law and order. We've passed huge amounts of legislation,
They've made progress sort of speeding up the processes of
the court. So I mean they've been working extremely hard.
I've been working them hard, and so you know, I
have been confident, but it's been shaken by this particular incident.

(34:47):
And so what I'm doing is saying, well, you know,
let's take a look at this particular instance, but also
get some external review of the operations of the court
and make make sure that things are going properly, whether
this is a one off or it's more systematic of
a deeper problem.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Do you worry it's a systemic problem.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
I do, well. I want to reassure myself that, you know,
the operations of the court system, the payments of reparations,
all those basic sort of things, the nuts and bolts
of the ministry have been handled properly. And I've had
some concerns in that area. And that's why getting a
couple of independent people and take a cold hard lookover
four to six weeks, come back and here we go.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Do you reckon anyone's going to lose the job over this?
Apart from Russell Harrison of course, Well, you know, I
mean that's a possibility absolutely.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
I mean there needs to be accountability because you know,
people need to have confidence at the public sector really
values every dollar and there need to be consequences. But
ultimately that's something for the chief executive to determine.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
While I got you, did you read the Debra Chambers
piece in the Herald over the weekend? Read the Kim
dot concs.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
No, I haven't, but I usually enjoy here articles mentally, Well, you.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Wouldn't have enjoyed this because basically she said, the judicial
process in this country is a fascical joke and is
set up for your chem dot COM's basically to take
the mickey. You never get extra died and why do
we run a system like that?

Speaker 6 (36:14):
Agree wholeheardly. I mean obviously this particular instance, I you know,
I can't comment on that and has to go through
the law as it is. But if I'm re elected
and we're back in government, I will certainly be changing
the extradition laws to reduce the quite ridiculous amount of
time that's been put into this.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Why didn't you change them over the last three years?

Speaker 6 (36:33):
Well, it wouldn't have affected his.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
I'm not talking about her, I'm just talking generally. I mean,
we've set ourselves up to be a joke.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
Well, yeah, you'd be probably arguing because we're in urgency
all the time in Parliament.

Speaker 9 (36:44):
I've been putting through an.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
Enormous amount of legislation in the justice space to restore
law and order, toughen consequences for crime, doing a whole
lot of things. And you know we'll get to it,
but we can't do everything all at once.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
All I appreciate it, Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith, the team
past seven past Like, I'm also a who's been sucked
into watching question Time and I totally agree with you.
Hopkins was ridiculous. Winston was dancing on the head of
a penn and not very well. If you just apologized
instead of arguing the minutio, we'd be better off, Mike.
If everybody watched question Time, they see how much taxpayers
money is wasted on so many incompetent people. See the learnings.

(37:17):
I'm going to get the numbers up on Question Time
before I retire. Fourteen past seven coming up seventeen past seven.
New plan from Exercise New Zealand for us this morning
we're not active enough, of course, so they want an
hour a day in school. Some tax and Center was
in a bigger role for exercise and acc rehab, so
us getting fat basically cost the health system six hundred
million plus a year two point three billion in loss productivity. Anyway,

(37:38):
Richard Biddy is the Exercise New Zealand boss and he's
back with us, Richard Morning, good morning. Won't golp ones
fix them all?

Speaker 7 (37:45):
Well, not enough, because the problem is gop one will
help to address obesity, but it doesn't it he address
the underlying issue of inactivity. And so the health cost
associated with inactivity are still massive. And the exactly almost
read hearing with ob city obesti part of the problem.
It's not the main problem. The main problem is actally
physical in activity and that's the thing that's driving all

(38:05):
the big health costs.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
And it's what you.

Speaker 7 (38:08):
Know, it actually it actually shortens life, you know, that's
the other thing. But when we're talking about tax, we're
talking about the tax to us, the cost of us
as taxpayers six hundred million.

Speaker 9 (38:17):
We just we've wasted money.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
And we don't have an hour in schools? Would most
schools not argue they get kids out that lunchtime and
run around and do a bit of that, or are
we just sitting on our phones all day?

Speaker 7 (38:25):
Well, the onest one there is that what we're asking
for is for the current policy to be enforced, because
that's the guideline that has and so that's probably what
shocked most new Zeanders. So forty percent of kids do
not meet the WHO guidelines of sixty minutes a day,
and that's that member that counts anything. So running around
and playing counts as that. But sadly we have almost
half of children in zeand don't meet it, and so

(38:47):
we're just saying it needs to be enforced. And there's
really good evidence that actually if you do that, academic
performance goes up. So this isn't the case of sort
of either or this is a case of let's do
the right things, let's get it right at children's level,
and then all the way through to the tech system.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Does the ACC not do it? I mean, are they
all about massage and rubdowns and stuff like that.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
Well, ACC, particularly if we look at sort of the
traditional rehab model, which is if you go to the
likes of the physiotherapist, they may give you exercises, they
generally will not pay for you to do those exercises
each time because that's too expensive. But we have a willing,
enable workforce like personal trainers that could help work alongside physios,

(39:27):
and to be blunt, we're actually really cost effective compared
with osiotherapists. So we're not saying replace them, We're saying
work alongside them, and it would increase the efficacy of
the intervention in the first place. So this is all actually,
let's use exercise, but it actually saves us money. It's
not about it's costing us money. It's saving money in
the long term.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Well, I wish you the best with it, and I
hope it works. Richard Biddy, who's the Exercise in New
Zealand CEO interesting Bank of America announced this morning as
part of an interview this CEO was doing, we'll talk
to David Seymore, who's the FARMAC head in a couple
of moments about diabetes and other matter. Bank of America
spends two hundred and fifty million dollars a year on
GLP ones for their staff. Two hundred and fifty million

(40:06):
dollars a year on their staff for GLP once part
of exercise New Zealand's idea as they drop the FBT,
the French benefit tax on employers supported physical activity. So
I personally don't see that going anywhere, but it gives
you the difference and attitude, doesn't it.

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find out more. Scar Speaking a house at seven twenty three,
perhaps the Labour Party's small target election year strategy has

(41:34):
started to unravel. As one of their MPs, can I
introduce to you? Helen White told us of her desire
for house prices to fall. She wants them to come
down even further. They've already come down, of course, through
a series of events that include, in fact, her last
government's approach to the economy, the booming inflation they created,
the bulging debt from all that spending, the general fiscal

(41:55):
waste that saw interest rates spike, the country failed to
collect the mirgrant numbers that had previously had, as well
as the cost of building skyrocket all over the place.
As a result, the property market has broadly gone backwards
for what many suggest now is an historic period of time,
so she should be happy, which is the problem with
economic illiterates like her. The Labor Party, her own party,
of course, don't see things the way she does for

(42:18):
obvious reasons. And the obvious reason would be that two
thirds of New Zealander's own homes, and many see them
as a nest egg for their retirement. Watching prices fall
undermines our futures. Helen made herself a headline because she
was asked about the Opportunity Party, the leader of which
is standing in her Mount Elvid electorate. They too want
to erect the property market with a land tax. Helen

(42:38):
didn't know much about any of that. All she knew
was she wants prices to fall. This, sadly, is the
sort of trouble Chris Hipkins is going to have to
start to mop up. See, once you get to the
election mode, a lot of random questions get asked to
previously unheard of MPs, some of whom managed to almost
immediately display the attributes the party had long been hoping
could stay hidden until at least election day. Helen's already

(43:00):
infamous given Mount Elbert as deep labor, deep labor territory.
She almost lost it in twenty twenty three, so her
start to twenty twenty six doesn't bode particularly well. But
the overarching message here is the bedrock of many New
Zealanders saving strategies is under fire from increasing numbers of
political operators. They want your retirement basically blown sky high

(43:21):
with a property crash. I'm backing that approach not to
be overly popular, asking Mike, of course the Prime Minister
should use the air Force to get from one place
to another. It is sad that we've become such a
pathetic little country where the politicians complain about everything they
hope they can score points from it is it really was.
It's well to be fair. It started with stuff. Who

(43:42):
are the misery merchants of the media these days? They're
looking for every little nitpicky bit of nonsense. Herold picked
it up and ran with it. So if you miss
this story, Luxon is in Wanganui now. I don't know
if you followed aviation generally in this country over the
last handful of years. There's not a lot of connectivity
between small town New Zealand and in this case, Auckland.

(44:02):
The guy's there all day. He needs to because of
Bill Birch's funeral. He needs to get back to Auckland
that night. He was going to stay overnight. It was
no big deal. He was staying overnight. He was catching
an Air Chatham's flight the next morning. But because of
the Birch funeral and he was going to speak, he
then needed to move another meeting that was then going
to clash back to seven o'clock in the morning, so
he couldn't get back to Auckland at seven o'clock in

(44:24):
the morning. He couldn't be the Prime Minister at seven
o'clock in the morning in Auckland because he can't get
a bloody plane. So he had to get back that night.
There are no planes to get him back that night.
So what's he supposed to do? And so they tried
to make a big deal of the fact he's at
a National Party fundraiser, which he was, but he was
also in wonging to hit a whole bunch of other
events as Prime minister. And as was pointed out by

(44:45):
the Speaker of the House in Parliament yesterday, you are
at all times the Prime Minister of the country and
as Prime Minister of the country, as I said the
other day, first of all, he needs his own plane.
If he announced today I'm buying an A three to
twenty and a three to twenty one. Hell if he
came out to day and said I'm buying a triple
seven extended range, I wouldn't mind, because the Prime Minister

(45:05):
needs to be able to get around the place, to
run the country and touch base with New Zealanders. That's
what democracy is. And if we're getting so pathetic and
so pedantic, and he wasn't hopping on an A three
eighty by the way and flying first class, it was
a six seater back to Auckland. So everyone just get

(45:27):
a grip.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
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The word this morning is some private enterprise might be
coming to save the sports. So we'll get a view
on that shortly. Meantime, at twenty three to wait, Farmak
expanding access to type two diabetes treatment for next month.
Eligibility for four mead is going to be white more

(46:00):
than thirty thousand people they think are expected to benefit
over the next five years. The access will be based
on clinical need, not ethnicity or other eligible criteria. David Seymour,
as a co Associate Minister of Health or so the
Minister in charge of fire making, is with us morning,
good morning. Are we getting more scripts here for more
money or the same amount to different people.

Speaker 17 (46:21):
There's going to be more people who are eligible because
previously you had to be either Mari or pakiha sorry,
either Mari or Pacific, or have a diagnosis that made
you eligible for these medicines. From now, you're only going
to need to have elevated blood sugar that means that

(46:43):
you have a risk of type two diabetes and therefore
you are eligible for one of these four medicines as
prescribed by your doctor. That means there will be more
people getting it. We will buy more of these medicines,
and we will prescribe, and doctors will prescribe. We will
supply more of the medicines. If doctors prescribe them.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Who decided that the board, the chief executive or you.

Speaker 17 (47:08):
Not me, and not the chief executive. Ultimately the board
has to sign these things off. But FARMAC has a
number of what they call technical advisory committees, which have people,
as you'd expect to are experts and pharmacy, pharmacology and
specialists from the different areas of medicine.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Yeah, so they did that based on a change of
rules and understanding, though presumably didn't they.

Speaker 17 (47:34):
Well, this has happened because first of all, I have
appointed people to the board who are interested in having
the best medical assessment authority in the world, not embedding
the treaty. And second of all, I've written them letters

(47:55):
of expectation saying, you know, forget about embedding the treaty.
That's not your job. There were no medicines around in
eighteen forty. Captain Hobson didn't promise this, And actually, what
you need to do is be the best medical technology
assessments organization in the world. Let's focus on that. A
combination of those letters and those appointments has ultimately led

(48:17):
to decisions like this.

Speaker 9 (48:18):
But I don't directly choose no particular medicine.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Those who still argue for the Mari side of the
equation based on they are overly represented, which, of course
they are technically correct, they are overly represented. Do you
understand that to any degree or not? Really?

Speaker 17 (48:35):
Yeah, it's absolutely true. Ari and Pacific have a higher
portion of pre diabetes, and as a result, more Marian
Pacific people will go to their doctor and be assessed
and they will get more of these medicines. That's as
it should be. But you don't need a different criteria
like we used to have when it basically said in

(48:57):
order to qualify for this funding, you have to have
of either Mari and Pacific ethnicity or an actual clinical
diagnosis that you need these medicines. And what we used
to have is people would go to their doctor and
they and the doctor would say, Gee, if you were
Mari or Pacific, we could give this to you for free.

(49:19):
But you're not, so you will either have to not
have the medicines or pay out of pocket. I met
one guy. The doctor said, if you were Mari, this
would be free. I said, I glad you asked, because
I actually am. He wasn't, but it shows how ridiculous
the situation was.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
So are you disappointed? This week and what you've heard
from Treasury and MB and corrections and the massage that
maybe you collectively haven't made the dent in that sort
of philosophy that you might have wanted.

Speaker 17 (49:46):
Yes and no, I've always said to people, Look, at
the end of the day, in an election, were campaigned
to expand our place in Parliament. That's why I asked
people to give their party to act that allows us
to form a government and control cabinet. But we are
part of this thing which includes sixty thousand public servants,
some of whom sometimes are nefarious, others just have an

(50:09):
ingrained worldview that is quite different from the rest of
New Zealand. And you only have to look at sixty
five percent of Wellington Central gave their party vote to
Labour or Green. Now that is very different from any
other part of New Zealand, not only on how far
left it is, but how different it is from the
rest of New Zealand. And that's obviously going to have

(50:32):
a factor. But the way I look at it, we
keep on fighting. We have a lot of successes. I
look at this. I went into Parliament in part to
fight racism and we have just removed racism from the
way that prediabetic medicines are prescribed and funded, and tomorrow
we'll fight something else and we'll keep fighting and winning.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
All right, Just quickly the golp one debate on your
argument that if you spend up front to save long term,
when are we going to fund golp ones twenty five
dollars a month like costco are in America, for example,
through insurance, so that you potentially solve one of the
great obesity dilemmas of the Western world.

Speaker 17 (51:10):
Well, there's a couple of things there. First of all,
co payments we haven't done, but we could do, and
that's something that I think is probably not going to
change in the next few months, but it's worth talking
about if we're in this position after the election. But
the bigger issue is just the sheer amount of money
in farmac. We have five percent of the health budget

(51:34):
in Australia their equivalent as they spend twelve percent of
all health spending on medicines. And with my act had on,
one of the things we're campaigning to do is say, look,
the first one percent of healthcare spending should go to medicines.
Ring fence for medicines, you do that for seven years.
Next year at six percent. The year after that's seven

(51:54):
thirty three, we too will spend twelve percent of our
health budget on medicines without to cut anything, because we're
doing it out of the growth that's already happening. And
I think if we were to do that, then the
answer to your question is yes, almost certainly, we would
get down the list and fun GLP ones along with
many other things.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Interesting good talk farm ac Minister or Associate Minister of
Health day but Seymour in charge of farm MAK seventeen to.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
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Speaker 2 (52:25):
It'd be fourteen away from it. So I'm in part.
Don't know what do you call the shop that sells
sheets and pillow cases? I don't know what that col Rochester,
Manchester shop. So there over the weekend because Katie's taken
the dobate. It's not a do bate. What do you
call something that's slightly lighter than wilt but not quite
but lighter again as something? She called it as something.

(52:46):
Let No, it's not a sheet, Sam, don't contribute to this.
If you don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 12 (52:51):
To be fair late. Lighton shouted that out as a joke,
and then Sam repeated.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
It, get your own material, Sam. Anyway, so I'm buying
one of these things because the dog's vomited on it.
Katie takes the vomited thing into the dry cleaners and
they go, that'll be two weeks, and she goes what
she goes, Oh, I no special health health health health
health rules around you know, We've got to be very careful.
So she thinks, what all two weeks?

Speaker 12 (53:15):
Is it a covert cover it?

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Well done, So a coverlet.

Speaker 12 (53:18):
I'll take I'll take it.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
I'll don't google something. And then genius.

Speaker 12 (53:24):
Sam did and then he shouted that at me, and
then I shouted it at you.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Cover it. So we took the coverlet and I was
desperate to get that word out because such a stupid word.
So we took the coverlet in and they said two weeks,
and I thought, well, hold on, there's a cold snip coming.
I don't know if you know, but it's a bit
cold at the moment. I don't know if you've heard
that in the news lately anyway, So it's a bit
cold at the moment. So I thought well, I can't
do without a coverlet, so we need to go to
another We need to get in.

Speaker 12 (53:47):
They provide a lot of warmth to cover it.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Not a lot of warmth, but it's a coverlet. Have
you considered a don No, I can't know. I couldn't
because we want to cover it. So while we're away
for two weeks waiting for the coverlet to be done,
we go to buy another coverlet and we put it
on the bid and the dogs just vomited on that
this morning. Now, the dog's never vomited before, right, never
vomited on a coverlet before.

Speaker 12 (54:10):
Is the dog trying to tell you something?

Speaker 2 (54:11):
That's what I'm asking Does a dog develop a coverlet
vomiting habbit?

Speaker 12 (54:17):
Do people have bedspreads anymore?

Speaker 2 (54:19):
I don't know whether they have bedspreads, but I mean,
you know, so it's obviously there's a dog that vomits
on coverlets.

Speaker 12 (54:23):
We used to have candlework beats all those were the days.
Imagine the dog vombiting on those.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
But that's the problem with the coverlet. The coverlet does
have a texture to be fair, So if you get
little bits and pieces of vomit in the texture, you
might have trouble anyway. Point is, we've got a bran
new coverlet which has now also been vomited on, So
two coverlets. Do we buy a third coverlet? Or do
we put a plastic sheet over the top and just
when the dog next vomits we can wipe it down

(54:51):
with a sponge.

Speaker 12 (54:52):
Some people don't let their dogs on the bed.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Yeah, that's no. You don't want to go down that
track because Cadie went down that track a number of
years ago when she was on this radio station and
when off in a way that was probably unhealthy in
the length of time and depth of and intensity of conversation.
So the dog will remain on the bed. It's just
what we do. How many couplets do you need because
our linen thing? That was the other thing I said,
don't buy another coverlet because our linen cupboard. I said,

(55:16):
what are you going to do when we get the
old one back? She goes our second in the linen
cup and I said, linen cupboards full full of coverlets,
and we've also got a labeled linen cupboard and so
everything so it sheets double single queen master fellow slips coverlets.

Speaker 12 (55:31):
Can I hire her.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Some days? I'd say you can marry her. Today's not
one of them. Today's not one of them. But just
saying anyway, so what do I do? Team to wait?

Speaker 1 (55:42):
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Speaker 2 (55:46):
Be shaven away from a new plan for Nitbull Nitball
News Zealand and talks apparently over a privately owned league
high net worth family with sporting links. Is the story.
Don mckinnant is a former chair of Knitball News Inland,
is with US Morning Good Money of Mine. So you've
been inside the room. Does do you think the structure
hold the game back? Is that part of the problem
or not?

Speaker 11 (56:07):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (56:08):
Yes, I think you could probably say that about most
sports around the world, you know, the traditional federated model
if you like, of club and school and province and
then international and everyone pays their fees and goes through
the system.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
You know.

Speaker 13 (56:24):
I think it's a New Zealand sport superbly for one
hundred and twenty five years. But I hope it's done
a huge pressure now, that particular structure, and I think
it's under huge pressure because the world's changed so much
in the last five or ten years. So yeah, I
do think half the issue of sport in the zement structure.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
So do you think getting a wealthy family of benefactor,
somebody investing from outside to run the whole kittenkerboodle at
elite level is the answer or problematic?

Speaker 13 (56:52):
Well, if the redpends more of the question so to
run the whole thing kik kerboodle. No, definitely not. But
I think if you are looking at that level between
community and international sport, then you're competing for hearts and
minds of fans day in day out, week in week out,

(57:12):
and you need a hell of a lot of expertise
and you need a hell of a lot of capital
to do that successfully. And that isn't typics. Change might
know if you think about a ten year old with
a phone or a fifteen year old with a phone,
that they can follow any sport anywhere in the world,
day in day out, every moment of the day, without
ever never going near a court, without ever playing the game,

(57:33):
and they can be obsessive, passionate fans. It's changed so much.
And you know, the great sports, the sports that are
typically privately owned and I shouldn't call them sports are relishous,
say competitions, Those competitions are fan obsessive, and they are
very capital rich, and they do a great job at
capturing those hearts and minds. I just think it's really

(57:55):
hard to do that under a traditional sport model.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
No, I agree, but the difficult Should we give up?
I know, I know what you're going to say and ask, anyway,
should we give up on netball? The numbers aren't there.
I mean, yes, kids play it and they love it fantastic,
But at the elite level, the numbers aren't there. People
don't watch, they don't care.

Speaker 13 (58:11):
Yeah. Look I haven't been involved now for eighteen odd years,
but eighteen years ago it was it was lucky. I
was like enough to be involved in the sport. It
was absolutely booming and you know, we were world champions,
we were Commonwealth Games champions. Numbers are going through the roof,
Nipple can get back there. It's got good people still

(58:32):
heavily involved. It's got the foundation. It's just I think
it's that next level. You know what a kids do
when they're coming out of school. Are they're choosing to
stick at metal? Are they're choosing to stick as fans?
And the numbers suggest maybe not as many are as
they used to be fixable.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
I suspect it is.

Speaker 13 (58:50):
I think they probably need Australia in the mix somewhere.
To be honest, I think twenty five million or thirty
odd millions sitting across the ditch open up a whole
new world of investment. But look, I think it's salvageable.
I really do, and I hope it is because it's
it's a good sport with great people.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Appreciate your time. Don McKinnon form a chair of Netball
New Zealand buy a four dollar fluffy blanky from Kmart.
You know that's not me. You're trolling me. There seems
to be a consistency there between third time lucky, go
for a third couple lip or get rid of the dog.
And so that's the dilimmer in which I face for
all of those You're saying, I'm a clean freak, and

(59:29):
what's the dog doing on the bet? It's a good question.
It's is a Maltese and Maltese particularly clean. They don't shed.
Don't buy a cablet bomb, Yeah that's just bomb. Buy
a dog house, a long chain and a monkey blanket
for the dog to sleep on.

Speaker 12 (59:41):
See have you thought about taking the dog to the
vet and going what the bombing?

Speaker 2 (59:48):
It keeps? Zeb The Sunday is celebrating one hundred years.
Can you believe it? We'll celebrate with Leyton Smith shortly.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
So this Sunday a major moment in New Zealand broadcasting
as ZEDBE celebrates one hundred years from the franchile beginnings
where governments ran everything and set the rules around broadcast
hours to the publicly listed, fully commercial juggernaut that it
is today. Zedby's grown into the country's most successful radio station.
Of course, special programming will feature this weekend. There are

(01:00:30):
various events to mark the occasion from the Department of
Vast Experience. In this particular story, we welcome back to
the ZEBE studios none other than Leighton Smith.

Speaker 12 (01:00:39):
That morning.

Speaker 8 (01:00:40):
It's very strange to be here at this time of
the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
The how long has it been since you left?

Speaker 8 (01:00:46):
Eight years?

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Eight eight You haven't and I say this in all honesty,
you haven't changed visually at all. You have you had
a haircut, you had a haircut and I look, I
think I'm aging poorly.

Speaker 8 (01:00:58):
I can tip you in the right direct.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Anyway, What do you remember so you see the various
massinations of zibby over the years. I mean, obviously you
don't go back to the very beginning. I can make
a joke about that, of course, but you don't go
back to the very beginning. But the ZIB or the
news talk ZIB was where you came and all that
were you before that? In Wellington?

Speaker 8 (01:01:21):
In Wellington, yeah, Wellington, we did talk back. That was
what I was hired for in the first place. And
then I went from Wellington to Adelaide the lasted six
months and I came here And the story behind that's
in the book, so I'm not going to repeat it.
But the idea was to establish talkback on this station

(01:01:46):
between nine and twelve and then gradually move in the
rest of the station to the same sort of format
as it is today.

Speaker 9 (01:01:54):
In fact, and.

Speaker 8 (01:01:57):
It was fun and games for quite a while. By
that you mean it didn't work, well, depends on it
depends on how you described didn't work. Everything takes a
while to get off the ground, well, most things do.
And i'd actually just been through it in Adelaide, which
gave me some experience coming here. So that's enough of Adelaide.

(01:02:20):
But when I came, it was about eighteen months or
fifteen months before the changes started, and we were doing fine.
You want to know numbers. When I came, Mornings was
on nineteen percent the first I came halfway through that
survey and I dropped at fifteen. I felt great, and

(01:02:45):
then and then in the next survey of the new year,
it went up to twenty two and Merv Smith was
still there or here, and Merv was restless. He was
unhappy with what was going on or what he thought
was going on. But nobody knew the real plan, and

(01:03:06):
that was to extend the talk side of the station
and develop it. I was in London at Christmas when
Merv quit and went somewhere else and Bary Holland filled
in at short notice. Within three months they pulled it

(01:03:28):
together behind the scenes and that's when everything started changing.
Homes came up from doing my old program in Wellington,
and there were other people and you know, other people
and involved, but it was you know, as you know,
six to middays is it the critical but nothing nothing

(01:03:51):
else happens halfway.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Correct me if I'm wrong, because I was near at
the time, But this was an Auckland only adventure at
this particular point, and that it wasn't nationwide.

Speaker 8 (01:03:59):
Place it was it was it was one zaid B
and then it became with the with the first round
of changes, it became news Talk one said bright and
for a period of time that's what it was, and
then eventually it grew up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Was that a plan do you remember or do you
know that the news Talk one ZB would become news
Talk z B nationwide or they went with it as
it became more and more successful in Auckland.

Speaker 8 (01:04:23):
I would say it was probably a combination, right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Did you did you think as a seasoned professional at
the time, as you as you were, that this was
a good idea that the market was changing, the industry
was changing, and this all made sense or not?

Speaker 8 (01:04:36):
Yes, absolutely made sense? Right And you know you asked me,
you know, did it did it take a while to
get off the ground or whatever it was when we
were in Cook Street, which was I mean this was
all in Durham Lane, in the old building and with
long corridors that people used to scream down one end

(01:04:58):
to the other when they got angry, went through a
bit of that. The the change, the change to Cook
Street solidified everything, brought everybody in. We had our own
owned offices. Well we got them into Cook Street as well,
but we had our own offices down in Durah Lane.

(01:05:22):
And the first thing I did was put a mini
fridge in and fill it up. Well, this was legit.
I mean, those are the days when you finished at
twelve o'clock, your life was yours again. And we adventured.
Can you adventure? We ventured into various various areas of

(01:05:43):
experimentation that were fun. I mean you open up a
bottle and have a glass twelve o two. Then you
go across the road and have lunch. And I've forgotten
the name of the restaurant that was under where Whitkels
is now. It was a grand restaurant.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
What happened those days?

Speaker 9 (01:06:00):
What happened to them? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:06:02):
They died? Yeah, I think when we moved to Cook
Street we were deprived of access to any, to the drink,
any and the lunch.

Speaker 9 (01:06:16):
No.

Speaker 8 (01:06:16):
I took the fridge to Cook Street, but you couldn't
walk out the door as you can in this building. Yes,
and walk into takeaway places and restaurants. You had to
walk halfway through town. And so everybody, well sorry, as
I'm aware, everybody stopped doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
So as far as the ratings are concerned, or were
concerned at the time, it didn't go well immediately, did it?
And then it did eventually come right? Do you think
that was about? What was that about? Just change? People
don't like change and they take a while to get
used to it.

Speaker 8 (01:06:45):
Precisely. Do you want the figures? Well, sure, well I
can give you mind because they're embedded from that twenty
two percent. When we changed on that Monday, everything changed.

(01:07:05):
And when the ratings came out, every show was down
under ten percent. Breakfast was on eight or eight point
five maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
No, it was on eight.

Speaker 8 (01:07:17):
Mornings was on ten point five, and everything else was
in the gutter. And it was a case of persistence
of learning. It certainly helped when Holmes got onto television
started abusing people that sort of you know, that was magnetic.
But the ratings started going up, and they went up further.

(01:07:39):
And here we are today, well, here you are today anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Which they say his history more at a moment with
Lightonsmith fourteen pasted.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
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Speaker 9 (01:07:53):
At be.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
News Talks, there'd be seventeen past eight, so it'd be
one hundred years old. As of this Sunday. We're selling
Wating reminiscing a little bit with Layton Smith the just
briefly when you came, Paul came and it was the
one ZB aspect of news Talk z'b as opposed to
the nationwide thing we see today. How much of the
fact that you guys weren't necessarily known or stars or

(01:08:18):
big names held you back? Do you think.

Speaker 8 (01:08:24):
How long have I got to think? I think I
think that we got known pretty well pretty quickly when
I When I came, Alice Worsley had been doing the
program for five years and they took her off, and
there was a lot of objection to it, and I understand,
and it was in the paper because I read it

(01:08:45):
in Sydney. I understand there was a there was a
demonstration march down Queen Street against it. Black bands and
her producer, who came to kind of work with me
for a short period or stayed on, was the organizer.
So I felt constantly underwatch It's funny. You wouldn't You

(01:09:06):
wouldn't get No one's such a big deal these days.
That's one of the changes, isn't it. As much as
things change, they don't change. No one is that big
a deal anymore that anything like that would ever happen.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Again, don't you reckon? Well, you could leave, yeah, but
if I left today, no one's marching in a street.

Speaker 8 (01:09:25):
No, there'd be mourning. I don't even think that'd be morning.
We've already come husking in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
How tense was it when things weren't going well at
that particular point, And obviously, with the benefit of hindsight,
you waited out. But of course, in those moments, and
we've all been there, you don't know whether they're going
to wait it out or not, and you might be
looking for work.

Speaker 8 (01:09:48):
No never got like that. As close as it did
is when those ratings dropped. I walked into Brent Harmon's office,
a manager, and said, I'm going to resign and go
back to Australia, and he said, I don't think so.

(01:10:09):
I've got something to talk to you about. And so
we talked to a new contract and stayed on and
it made all the difference. And I've got to say that.
You know, I was behind the microphone for thirty three
years doing that program, and when I stop and think
about it now, I can't believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Amazing.

Speaker 8 (01:10:28):
I just can't believe thirty three years of my life
has been wasted.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
I could have been doing something productive. The competition and
I'm trying to truck carefully here. So competition has come
and gone. They haven't survived. How do you explain that?
Are we really that good?

Speaker 8 (01:10:53):
Unhesitated? Well, I hesitated, so let's start again, unhesitatingly. Yes,
and I'll justify it. It's a case of to answer
your first question, it's the case of having the right
people in the right place at the right time. It
doesn't matter whether it's behind a microphone or in the
manager's office. And it took a while to sort some

(01:11:15):
of that out on both sides of the microphone. But
once it did, things fell into place. People worked well together.
They didn't for a bit, I guess insinuated there were
shouting matches down the long corridor. But when you get

(01:11:36):
it right, what can I say? You've got it right
and people notice it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
And so.

Speaker 8 (01:11:45):
There was never there was never any thought of not
having a job tomorrow. That's good, I asked. At one stage,
I asked you remember were you here when we had
the Australian in who's English actually, but he was from
Australia and he managed to GB in Sydney. Yes, and

(01:12:05):
then came over here trying to think of his name.
And I had met him before because they offered me
a job at TGB and I turned it down. I
said to him, how long do you think I've got?
This is when I was busy formulating for the future.
He says, as long as you want. It's not bad day.

(01:12:29):
Shall we gather again for another one of these in
one hundred and fiftieth?

Speaker 9 (01:12:31):
Do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Well? I can be here.

Speaker 8 (01:12:34):
Nothing about you exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Joy to see you, mate, Thank thank you for the
stories and honors for both of us. Ye, well more
in honor than me. Nice to see your late and Smith.
It's a twenty two from humble beginnings.

Speaker 17 (01:12:47):
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B has been your trusted radio station for one hundred years.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
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Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
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Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
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Speaker 13 (01:14:39):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
The text are coming and left, right and center. We'll
run through a few of them, then get to end
of Brady, who I don't know about end Enders on holiday,
which is fine because he's not the Prime minister. But
the Prime minister's also on holiday. I hope that Elbow's
on holiday. I would argue, if you're the leader of
the country, you shouldn't take a holiday. But anyway, we
might mention that a couple of other things going on
in Britain at the moment. End of Braid is but

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moments away here on the My Hosking Breakfast have used talks.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Forty five years ago. Mike had a pastime of going
into radio stations getting stickers. In those days, all the
everyone was in the one building. It's amazing. We were
talking about that just the other day. I remember the
car stickers in this country, this country in the what
would it be? Would have been as late as the
eighties or am I going back to the late seventies?
Most cars had a sticker. When I was in christ
Radio Aven was a station and we had the helmet

(01:15:44):
a angel with a Radio Aven sticker on the back.
And of course, but what was the contest? So you drive,
if you got spotted, if the station spotted you and
your sticker, they'd read out like a number plate, and
you'd want a prize. And then someone said let's have
a cash call. And then we did the cash call.
Somebody's bed buzzer bumble and hearing mckerry or wherever the

(01:16:04):
hell was going? Those were eyes, weren't they? Layton? I
didn't realize how much I missed his thoughtful clipton insightful
man are so good. Look I could just go on
and I'm sure Layton would want me to, with all
the texts that came and saying how wonderful Laten is.
And he is twenty two minutes away from.

Speaker 16 (01:16:22):
Nine international correspondence with ins and eye insurance, peace of
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Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
And the brave be well to tell you, ma'am, good
morning Mike.

Speaker 11 (01:16:32):
Yeah, great to speak to you again. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
What is your view on I'm gobsmacked. The guy comes
into town, starts running the country for about three and
a half days, caps the bus beard, then buggers off
on holidays. What's that about?

Speaker 11 (01:16:47):
Look, it's August. Everyone does this. He's not unusual, and
yet it doesn't look great a couple of weeks into
a new gig. But there's nothing to do with Parliament's clothes.
They've all gone away. They're all on holidays for the
next six weeks and we're paying them. So Andy Burnham
is doing nothing unusual in having a family holiday. We
don't know where he's gone for security reasons. Clearly, now

(01:17:10):
you know he's a bigger fish than being mayor of Manchester.
I'm sure some newspaper will track him down in the
next few weeks, but it's not unusual and I wish
him look switch off, take a fortnite, go somewhere Spaun, France, Italy, Greece.

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
Do it?

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Are you surprised? I know you're in a part of
the world on holiday at the minment that's not overly
warm like the wrist of Europe. But I was reading
out some steps earlier from people searching in Asia. The
Asian Treble Brigade have not been put off in any way,
shape or form in being tourists in the middle of
summer in Europe? Does that surprise you? Given the heat,

(01:17:46):
not in the slightest.

Speaker 11 (01:17:47):
I think a lot of resorts will welcome them in.
But we need to start having a conversation about climate, because,
as I told you the other night morning your time,
we used to come on holidays for the sun. We
used to go on holidays in Europe for the heat.
We'd leave Ireland, England, Wales, Scotland. We would go find

(01:18:08):
the sun and we would find temperatures ten degrees higher
than what we were having. And now I'm in the
Canaries and we're nine degrees cooler than what it is
in London. It's absolutely insane. I mean, this is wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
It's not say this stebbing Was it Covent Garden? I
was looking at the pictures. Looked like Covent Garden to me.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:18:32):
So a forty seven year old woman is in police
custody tonight in London, Covent Garden. Four men in the hospital,
a stabbing incident, A pair of scissors retrieved from the scene,
and the Metropolitan Police are saying that this was a
mental health incident. So what appears to have happened is
outside the Shaftesbury Theater on Arundeld Street, a woman started

(01:18:55):
slashing at men. Two guys in their thirties, one in
these forties, one guy in his fifties. All four taking
the hospital too still in to release now life threatening
injuries and a woman still in police custody on suspicion
of assault.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Jeerus so in Miller Bain. He's been with Maco, of
course they call him a miller. Wat is he given
what he's previously said about Trump? Is this an issue
or do we just like he's in a new job
it is what it does, and we move on.

Speaker 11 (01:19:24):
I think everyone in the UK will want to move
on very quickly. But he has previously been very vocal
and abusive of Trump at one point zero, and I
think so. I made a couple of shows last week
looking at Andy Burnham, talking to people very close to him,
people deep inside labor, and I said to them, how

(01:19:45):
does he play Trump? And they said, look, he basically
ignores him, move on, not engage and just pretend he's
not there. And I think it's a little bit awkward.
You know, Milliban being in Washington, d C. We know
the American administration did not want him become Foreign secretary,
but it is what it is. And I think they'll

(01:20:06):
take a quick win photo shoot pictures at Rubio and
get back to London.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Do you write him?

Speaker 11 (01:20:15):
Look, personally, I would say no, I wouldn't have given
him the gig. But I think what we're dealing with
here is a lot of labor, internal politics and Andy
Burnham just realizing that he's got the big gig and
this was the trade off.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Well, how is it the MI six get voted the
best foreign intelligence agency in Europe? Who's the judge of that?

Speaker 11 (01:20:35):
Sole Express has gone and interviewed sixty five people who
work deep in the other intelligence services all over the Europe,
talking to them, getting their opinions. Who do you like,
who's the best, who can deliver on foreign soil? M
I five looks after domestic UK intelligence six is James

(01:20:59):
Bond and for want of a better phrase, And they've
all come back and said, the Brits do it best.
So I think the French come in a close second.
The worst in Europe is apparently Slovakia. Look, I'm Irish,
we don't even have a foreign intelligence service. I think
most people in Ireland are too busy partying and singing

(01:21:21):
and dancing. But God bless the Brits. M I six
do it best and they take their sharpest minds out
of Oxford and Cambridge. Apparently.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Interesting. When I next talk to you in the next
week and on Tuesday morning, out of time Monday evening
your time, in what part of the world will you
be returning to the homeland or not really.

Speaker 11 (01:21:40):
Back in Oxfordshire so we leave, or in Lagumera in
the Canaries, which I love, tiny little seaside fishing village
which I've spoken to you about before. I'm here with
my wife, my son, my daughter, and we come here
every year and nothing ever changes. It's the same people,
the same restrants, the same bars. I've learned Spanish because

(01:22:03):
of these people, and I love it here. But next
week I promise you back in England.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Good on you travel well. Appreciated very much. Into Brady
out of Britain's might just quickly. Andy Burnham the other
day before he went on holiday, this devolution thing that
he's into getting everything out of London. He gave all
mayors of what they call city regions in that part
of the country. He says he's going to give them
income tax revenue. So there's been a sort of a
debate here about something similar, saying, look, we've got a

(01:22:27):
tiny rating space. You want us to welcome tourists. We
can't afford to provide the facilities. The infrastructure is not
big enough and we can't afford to make it bigger.
We need a slice of the GST, we need a
bed text, We need to do something from central government
to help us out. So he's doing it. So he's
going to allow English strategic authorities to keep cash from
business rates collected in their areas to gain greater control.

(01:22:51):
The exact process he didn't have time for because he
was going on holiday, but at least sort of it'll
be a fascinating thing to follow to see whether it's
actually workable or not. Sixteen two.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Speaking of original Control, there's very good piece in the
Herald this morning out of christ Church, and there's a
couple of things going on in christ Church at the moment.
Christ Church gets a lot of good news headlines and
they're well deserved in general, but a couple of things
to think about, one of which developers are having trouble
in that particular part of the world. They're building the
wrong sort of houses. And some of those houses' sort
of townhousey type houses, and they're sort of semi detached

(01:23:34):
is what they would call them in Britain. You know,
one walls connected to another house, and they don't have garages,
and no one wants them, and so they're sort of
not being able to sell them, and so some of
them are letting them go for next to no money.
The next thing that they're talking about this morning is
it's around the stadium I've experienced myself, having been around
the stadium a number of times. That part of Christ
Church out that side, heading towards I don't know, whatever

(01:23:56):
you want to call it, Linwood, is still to be developed.
There's a lot going on there, but most of those
houses are empty. So the whole idea originally, and this
is the juxtaposition or the interface between building something you
think is going to be amazing versus what people will
actually put up with and revelent, and the two aren't

(01:24:16):
always the same thing. And I think we're starting to
see this a little bit downtown in christ Touch. So
you've got a lot of these inner city type town
houses now if you do them well and with a
bit of architectural flare, and they happen to be close
to you know, like Peter Butter Street, I'm thinking of
close to the park. You know, you'd pay a few
million dollars for that with given the cost of construction,
But they become expensive the cheaper end of the market.

(01:24:38):
Out that other side, round by One Stadium or whatever
you're calling it, the Christ Judge Stadium, the one New
Zealand Stadium. They're all the a BMBT. And so do
you locally have rules that go, we're going to ban
a b and bing here and otherwise you're going to
have NOE because when the place when you've got a
game on, places pumping, concert on places pumping, once the
crowd goes home, is no and there, and you know

(01:24:59):
why no one's in. No one lives there. Why does
no one live there? They're really abmb and So do
you change that? And if you did change that, would
the houses sell? The answers probably not because no one
would necessarily want it. Do you want to live across
the road from the stadium? Goes on a train the
other day in London as you come into London from Richmond.
Funnily enough, watched ted Lasso last night. I was out
in Richmond to look at the ted Lasso shop. That's
another story. Anyway, as you come back into London, you

(01:25:21):
go straight past the Emirates Stadium and literally you can
buy an apartment and if you had a long arm,
you could reach out of your apartment and touch the
Emirates Stadium. And people seem to think that's a cool thing.
I'm not sure it's the same thing in christ So
would you give a local authority the ability to ban
airb and being in certain parts of town. Is that
the sort of level of control they should have, or
should those sort of rules be national and there? How

(01:25:43):
does that bovetail into construction and building programs and the
cost of housing and stuff like that. If you want
to read that, that's in the Herald this morning and
a very good story nine minutes away from nine.

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can I just apologize on behalf of the program? I
don't feel that we've given enough coverage this morning to
the cold weather because I don't know whether you've noticed it,

(01:27:05):
but it's a bit cold.

Speaker 12 (01:27:07):
Should we do it like a special edition tomorrow make
the whole program.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Well, we're going to need to try and make up
for it because I'm just listening to the rest of
the media who told me it's cold, and it's it's
August and it's cold, and it could be really cold.
It could be really, really really cold. It could be
like three, four or five degrees and it doesn't matter
where in the country you go. At the moment, it's
a cold day. And I really haven't mentioned the weather
at all and I just just been covering the news.

(01:27:30):
We've covered all the other news, but we just haven't
covered this.

Speaker 12 (01:27:33):
Would be a record, and this would be the most
consecutive August that it's been.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Cold as well. We don't know that because we haven't
crunched the numbers, have we. I mean, until we crunch
those numbers, we can't say that for sure. So I'm pleased.
The rest of the media almost certainly is going to
spend the rest of the day being obsessed about how
damn cold it is five minutes away from night.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Round, and not one of them is going to celebrate
how sunny it is. Not one of them is going
tell you what New Zealand bloody good day are they?
You're not going to hear that all day anywhere. So
what we've got at last, And I know you've been
waiting for this as well, almost as much as you've
been waiting for coverage of Cold Weather fifty years after
its release. They are dubbing Star Wars and New Hope
the original Star Wars of course into Welsh. So here's

(01:28:20):
the bloke who's voicing C three Po.

Speaker 18 (01:28:23):
The fuck that has been done in Welsh is amazing.
And my character C three Po is apparently fluent in
six million languages, but now he's fluent in six million
one because he's speaking Welsh.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
So that's one of them. Luke as in Skywalker, Ossi
and Morgan, do we know that name is a name
we're supposed to know?

Speaker 12 (01:28:45):
No, but I just liked I wanted you to say
the other guy's name that you. I just thought it's
spelled l l y r.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
Yeah, that's Welsh if a cumery spell cumery. Anyway, where
was I The guy's doing Luke Walker is old Ossian.
It's an honor of a lifetime.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
What Mark Hamill did was incredible.

Speaker 17 (01:29:08):
His performance was just exemplary and for me to be
able to go into that character issues as.

Speaker 9 (01:29:13):
A real honor.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
It's not coming out until Christmas, only being broadcast on
Welsh language Channel less four C gets cold and whales,
you know, not in August though, So that's the sort
of thing we're going to cover off in different parts
of the world at different times of a year. It's
different temperatures.

Speaker 12 (01:29:32):
We could get people, we could do it sort of
a ring round. Have you ever been this cold? Do
you remember lat and back in coldest you ever remember
being late?

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
They paid people money to do this. Back tomorrow from
six as always every days.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
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