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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're trusted home for news, sport, entertainment, opinion, and Mike
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Morning and welcome today. Are we about to ban social
media for kids? Are we about to become a medicinal
cannabis exporting powerhouse? We've got some good news around more
good news in fact around spending. Tim Acadie do the week,
Richard Arnold Murray olds they give the gold as well. Pasky,
Welcome to Friday, seven past six. Right at the war?
Where are we at? Ambrose Evans Pritchard read. It makes

(00:33):
a very compelling case that this thing is over in
four weeks, because that's about when the petrol reserves in
America get drained. The straight is closed, No L and
G is getting through. Trump cannot tolerate one hundred dollars
a barrel and will capitulate. China can hold out the
Iranians if they have kept a bunch of attack drones back,
can hold out to then go for some fuel sites
in the Arab States. You see this theory. It's actually

(00:54):
not to be dismissed, but that's not the only scenario
bluster a site, and there was plenty of that coming
out of the White Head. It does seem, as far
as these things go, to be going well. The Navy
is gone, commercial planes are slowly flying again. Israel seems
devastatingly effective in Lebanon. The Kurds are in place, with
CIA supplied weaponry, ready to jump the border. Whether the

(01:14):
people rise up when that happens, I've got no idea
which could lead you to believe that what we end
up with is a well, not a complete transition, but
more a half baked mess with vacuums and disorder, but
a country that looks radically different to what it looked
like a year ago, and with a decimated ability to
be a nuclear threat that could be sold by Trump
as a win. Have a look at what condulliez a

(01:36):
Rice said about that yesterday. She makes sense. Of course,
the people could rise along with the Kurds, storm the barracks,
get the Shah's sun ensconced, and it's what loosely you
would call a complete victory, which would be historic if
you followed the story of American interventionism over the years.
The cold hard truth, though is Trump an election year
cannot afford to lose, so as makeshift and spontaneous this

(01:58):
may appear to some, is not needy. Never underestimate his
passion for self preservation. It's why, by the way, for
those who worry the reason Russia and China are nowhere
to be seen for their Iranian friends, self interest is
the greatest weapon and motivator of all. If this works, though,
as in the Iranian regime we have known, whether it's
killing an evil is wiped off the face of the earth,
then everyone from Macron to Starmer, A Clark to Hepkins

(02:20):
will be working very hard to explain why sitting around
for decades on end gas bagging about how unacceptable it
all is and yet achieving nothing is somehow a more
effective strategy than actually taking the problem and solving it.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
News of the World in ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Second War Starma as is his wont is still trying
to look like he got it right all along.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Erran has now five drones and missiles at ten countries,
but did not attack them. These are allies of the UK,
where we have hundreds of thousands of British people.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
In contrast, Higseth was Neirumdale.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Under President Trump, our nation has a new resolve that
our founders would recognize. We are at long last putting America,
Americans and the Americas first, ensuring peace through strength and
restoring common sense for.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
The Gulf stites. This really is about financial scife, hybens,
not drones.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
There has been a shift in the strategy from Iran
for not just military attrition, but economic attrition, which can
be far more deadly, not just for the region, just
long term for the entire international community.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Exactly. Oil this morning is SAETI three eighty fourish, which
is up a bit.

Speaker 7 (03:31):
We already saw Iraq stopping much of its production yesterday.
We hear about storage being very quickly filled now in
Saudi Arabia, that Saudis might have to start to throttle
back some of the production, and we probably would see
that in the UAE and Katau too.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Tell a believe on the sporadic missile come drone attach.

Speaker 8 (03:50):
The warhead opens up there and actually spray about a
few tenths of this munition.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
It can cover miles on miles.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Market Wise, it's a roller coaster, but generally the perception
is this thing isn't mean for the long haul.

Speaker 9 (04:08):
The market rate now is really looking at the duration
of how they think this is going to go on.
If it's a shorter period of time, if it's a
couple of weeks. They're looking at this more as a
temporary inflationary event that the fad can.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Look through the thick and looking to hear the war.
Don't worry about it. News of epic fury in ninety
You'll be aware. The Senate voted yesterday they were on
Trump's side. The House is going to do the same today.
The expectation is that vote will go the same way.
So in other words, that what's important about the vote
is not only Trump wins that, but also they then
are aligned with Trump. They are on the record as

(04:45):
backing the attack. DOJ other stories, Remember there's other news.
Do JAB announced and I don't know how they square
the circle. Do JAB announced they're going to release a
quote unquote new batch of Epstein documents Philly soon. Now
this ties and Bondie who said all the documents were out,
so someone ain't telling the story right. Twelve minutes past six.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
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Speaker 2 (05:16):
We're already getting texts on the poll. Polling could be
a story today. I'll come back to that if you
don't know what I'm talking about. China's got their big
meeting going on at the moment. They're forecasting GDP for
the year of four and a half to five percent.
Is that low? Yes it is. They also plan to
spend seven percent on defense this year. Is that low?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (05:34):
It is?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Interesting times fifteen parts.

Speaker 11 (05:36):
On that day.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
One right over from Sure.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
And Partners Andrew Kellah, good morning, Good morning, Mike can
Now should I be worried about this because we talked
about consents this week? The consents look okay, but as
you always say, a consent is not a house, and
these numbers here don't look like we're building quite as
many as we're consenting.

Speaker 12 (05:54):
Yeah, there are a little puzzling actually parts of these numbers.
And I think this is also, I guess, a reminder
that while we have all this sort of conflagration in
the Middle East, this is a bit of a reminder
this morning that we keep rolling on. You know, we
don't go into a holding pattern. The domestic economy keeps going,
and we keep looking at what's happening here. And yesterday's
Satsu zone release the building work put in place. So yeah,

(06:17):
my building consents inform us about intent, inform us about
what might happen, but building work put in place gives
us an insight into what has actually happened. Now, it
look at started for the December quarter, so it's a
bit old, but it's informative nonetheless, and the stories that
the numbers tell us sort of fits fits partly the
narrative that we're seeing from the consent starter because we've

(06:39):
got this divergence between residential and non residential work, and
part of this is what I find a bit.

Speaker 10 (06:45):
Puzzling because there's different stories going on. So what are
the numbers.

Speaker 12 (06:48):
Well, in the December quarter, total construction fell three point
one percent. Now that's quite a lot bigger for than
was expected.

Speaker 10 (06:57):
So if we.

Speaker 12 (06:57):
Break it down, residential work put in place fell one
point one percent compared to the September quarter. Now, the market,
the economs out there were expecting a small rise, and
I didn't think a small rise was an unreasonable sort
of expectation. But compared to the September quarter, non residential
work put in place fell six and a half percent.

Speaker 10 (07:20):
Now, that's a big number.

Speaker 12 (07:21):
So market expectations for the total number well for a
rise of one point nine percent, So a fall of
three point one percent for total work that's quite a
big miss. And if you compare the deck quarter last
year to the deck quarter in twenty twenty four, it's
three point six percent lower. So, look, we've sort of
got to try and explain this away because we're telling

(07:42):
the store of the economy is improving. But you know,
there was a bit of a lift in the September quarter,
so to a degree, it off sets there, but home
buildings and sense that aren't taking off the lifting. Trending
consents does suggest that activity will increase as the year progresses.
But Mart, I'm actually not quite sure how to explain

(08:02):
away the sharpfall in non residential buildings.

Speaker 10 (08:05):
So is there a crisis in confidence out there?

Speaker 12 (08:07):
The numbers aren't telling us that there is. Is the
caution around capital expenditure? Is the concern about the direction
of interest ratetions? The answer actually isn't immediately obvious. I
think what we can say is the lack of activity
in that non residential sector does sort of highlight even
though we say there's an economic recovery. It's patchy, Mike,
and I think that sort of highlights the fact that

(08:28):
there are some sort of holes in it.

Speaker 10 (08:30):
It's not broad, it's not widespread.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Are we a bit more bullsh about the retail ah?

Speaker 3 (08:34):
A little bit?

Speaker 10 (08:35):
Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 12 (08:36):
So another day, make another piece of spending data, at
this time retail spending data from Worldliine New Zealand. They
process a lot of payments here. So core retail merchants
from their network reported a two point two percent lift
in February twenty six compared to February twenty five. So
I like this because it's nice and timely. I mean,
there's February twenty six. That's just last week, isn't it.
But this is consistent. That two point two percent lift

(08:58):
is consistent with modest growth.

Speaker 10 (09:00):
That we're seeing in the other data series.

Speaker 12 (09:02):
So you had three point let's call it, three point
seven billion dollars worth of transactions. What I did notice
about this, Darto, Mike, is what we commented on earlier
this week, the big city, the big smoke is stirring.
So the Auckland Northern Region registered lift of two point
eight percent, so higher than the national average and that's
the biggest monthly lift year on here that've seen in

(09:23):
nearly two years. And ift you cast an eye around
the country, there's a familiar theme here. Palmerston North rural
area plus four and a half percent.

Speaker 10 (09:31):
O Tago rural area up three point.

Speaker 12 (09:33):
Eight percent, the Waikato another rural area up three point
seven percent. But I was supposed to close this one out, Mike.
Here's a little nugget for you that I looked at
in here Valentine's Day? What happened in what happened this
year on Valentine's Day? Where have we lost our mojo?
Spending on flowers and jewel around Valentine's Day this year

(09:54):
fourteen and a half percent lower so and basically what
they're saying.

Speaker 10 (09:58):
Is it was wet. So what that actually tells me?
And one in seven people can't be bothered with.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Superficial if it's range. Love is real. Love is real, Andrew,
and love love shines through bad weather.

Speaker 12 (10:12):
There you go, there you go, And actually, my love
of the worries, I'm going to the wast tonight.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Highlight from because I don't know if you've heard, Andrew,
this is our year.

Speaker 10 (10:21):
It hardly is a late night. Though it doesn't too late,
eight o'clock.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
It's too late. I couldn't for all for old farts
like us, mate. Correct, it's hard work anyway, you go
well with it? What are the numbers?

Speaker 12 (10:32):
Well, just just I suppose, just a general comment just
looking at markets.

Speaker 10 (10:35):
We've had this, we've had the conflict going for about
a week.

Speaker 12 (10:38):
US markets are sort of flat to a little bit lower,
but they're weakening off as we get towards towards the
end of this week. I mean the dal Jones is
now down one point eight percent, that's eight hundred and
seventy two points, So we're seeing that weakness there now
forty seven, eight hundred and sixty seven the mark there,
the S and P five hundred down thirty three points,
about half a percent, six eight three six, and then

(10:58):
Na's that down points. It's one one hundred and thirty
nine points, twenty two thousand, six hundred and seventy. But
European markets are quite a bit lower this week, Mike,
So the FORTS one hundred last night fell around one
and a half percent ten thousand, four hundred and thirteen.
During the day yesterday, we did see Asian markets bounce,
so the NICKEO was up one point nine percent.

Speaker 10 (11:18):
I suspect it will be lower today.

Speaker 12 (11:20):
That was up one thousand points fifty five thousand, two
hundred and seventy eight. Shanghai composite gain points sixty four
percent four one o eight. The Aussi's yesterday gained point
four four that's thirty nine points eight dowine four to
h and the INTERNETX fifty gains eighty seven points thirteen thousand,
six hundred and eighteen.

Speaker 10 (11:37):
Kiwi dollar has just drifted below fifty.

Speaker 12 (11:39):
Nine cents again, point five eight eight nine against the OSSI,
though we've tipped over the eighty four back over the
eighty four point eight four oh nine point five toh
eight five against the euro, point four four to two
three against the pound, ninety two point eight one. Japanese
en gold hovering around the five thousand US dollar market
owns five thousand and seventy five. But Brent Crew, this
isn't good mind Brett Crooks had it has had a

(12:02):
crack at eighty.

Speaker 10 (12:03):
Five dollars overnight.

Speaker 12 (12:04):
People are now starting to get a little bit worried
that this is not going to be as easy to
resolve as they thought it was. Currently sitting at eighty
four dollars and thirty four cents, And as as being
said everywhere at the moment, it's the duration of this
thing that's important.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Gull Andrew kellaher Shaw and Partners Victoria's secret best streak
of comparable sales growth in four years. They're looking at
somewhere between six point eight six point nine billion dollars.
So underwear is hot right now. They're heart right now.
Kim's Warehouse reported this week, by the way, Great Story
sales surge locally twenty two point four percent. The wider

(12:37):
international revenue was up twenty four and a half percent,
So they're going gangbuster six twenty two. It used talks dB,
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Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, this is what I'm getting. Michael Mussa am sick
to death of this continual bombardment of political pole we're getting,
and now we're getting announcements about announcements of these poles,
another one, another pole this morning, Mike, Please is this
increasing our productivity? Please stop this nonsense on the news bulletins.

Speaker 13 (13:08):
This is not news.

Speaker 10 (13:09):
Well, it is.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
It's sadly it is news, but I'll crunch you through
the numbers in just a couple of moments and whether
it's a real thing. Six twenty fine trending.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
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Speaker 14 (13:27):
Colue, you don't know what chloroform is?

Speaker 13 (13:28):
Should I know what chloroform is?

Speaker 14 (13:30):
Have you ever seen a movie?

Speaker 10 (13:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (13:31):
I seen many movies, And have you ever seen a
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Speaker 2 (13:34):
Oh okay, just listen to me.

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You take that rag and you cover their nose in
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what you call the wet rag thing? Arm you.

Speaker 10 (13:49):
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Speaker 2 (13:50):
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Speaker 10 (13:53):
I understand.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
I want to try to write some wrongs here.

Speaker 14 (13:56):
I thought you were a clony.

Speaker 15 (13:57):
Well, clones aren't real, dummy, and.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
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Speaker 13 (14:05):
Have you ever heard of the baron?

Speaker 3 (14:06):
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Speaker 16 (14:07):
Hello?

Speaker 13 (14:08):
Hello, Hello, you look delicious.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
All right, So we got Vince Vaughan. He's on a
revival of sorts. He's had some work on Apple TV.
James Marsden, he's been emanated, he's been nominated for an
Emmy for the last three years in a row. Sonic movies,
New Avengers films coming out, blah blah blah Disney as
of March twenty seven, if you want to make note
of that. Trump this morning is deciding that he needs
to be involved in picking the Supreme Leader of the

(14:32):
run match Tabor, who is the son. He says, he's
a loser, he's a lightweight. He picked Elsey in Venezuela
and that's going to treat. So he'll need to be
involved in the picking. What I'd really like him to
do is wrap this up with him the next six
days if he wants to do.

Speaker 14 (14:48):
If I had a billion dollars, could I be the
Supreme Leader?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Probably could? Well, at least you could join for a while.
You could be the leader for a while. These retail
numbers their material. I mean, you can't argue with the numbers.
We are spending and interestingly on discretionary stuff, and I
think that's the really good news amongst us crunch some
of those retail numbers. Where you after the news?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Which is next?

Speaker 1 (15:09):
The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk to
Mike the Mic asking breakfast with a Veda, retirement communities,
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Speaker 2 (15:20):
Blubbling along Stateside under the wall apart from the Epsteen
thing and Bondie being subteended is Christine nam who it's
a grubby business with Cory Lowandowski. You remember the name
Cory Lewandowski. Anyway, Richard will explain more if you're not
up on that. Shortly twenty three minutes away from seven
to zo to just carry on with what Andrew was
saying a couple of moments ago, to capta another solid
week of economic data that confirms we are are part

(15:42):
of a solid turnaround economically. Are new retail data spending
for fair abup two point two percent, Auckland North and
biggest lift in two years Palmeston North, O Tigo Wykatto
virtually running on rocket fuel at the moment. Nick Brunston,
Principal economist and Informetrics Nick, morning to you, Mike, tell
you what I like the discretion rant, not just today's numbers,
but the numbers we've seen in the last couple of
weeks the discretionary aspect of it. In other words, we're

(16:05):
buying stuff we don't have to. That's about confidence, isn't it.

Speaker 16 (16:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (16:09):
Absolutely, And those are the areas of retails that have
been harder over the last couple of years, and we're
starting to see just about all parts of the retail
sector are seeing our recovery, including those discretionary areas.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Is this a trend? Is this real?

Speaker 16 (16:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (16:23):
It is, I think, and certainly that two point two
percent result nationally is to be expected. Statinsa's retail trade
survey for the December quarter showed a four point nine
percent increase in retail trade, so it's all kind of
pointing in the same direction. The strength of Auclands is
a bit surprising to me. Bearing a mind employment and
Auckland's down zero point nine percent up to the end
of last year, so it's spending up two point eight

(16:45):
but clearly the people that are still employed are spending.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Are you in Auckland. I'm in Wellington, okay, No, wonder
if you're in Auckland, you can feel it's real. I
wonder also how much of it is tourists related. There's
no hide from the fact that this country is full
of tourists at the moment. Is that part of it?

Speaker 15 (17:04):
Yeah, Yet we are seeing your further recovery and tourism.
It isn't at a massive rate because we're getting close
to where we work pre pandemic, So it's sort of
a more moderate tourism tourism growth, And certainly in an
area like Auckland, the number of local outweighs tours so much,
so I would read that two as a much more
of a read on the confidence of residents in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
What's your vibe on a word? Is it fragile? Is
it solidifying? What is it robust?

Speaker 15 (17:34):
I was solidifying? And what's the big asterisk being what's
going on in the Middle East. We know that's going
to flow through in terms of oil prices. We know
it's already starting to flow through in terms of shipping prices.
So that is a little bit of a threat to
the recovery that we're seeing.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Is it psychological too? If I'm looking at this war
and freaking out about it, even though I don't know
how long it's going to go on, Is that material
do you think and when will we see that?

Speaker 13 (17:56):
If it is?

Speaker 15 (17:59):
I think that the the petrol prices are a pretty
key kind of I guess guiding staff for people to
spending confidence, and potentially the increases an oil prices seen
already in the early stages of the conflict could add
up to sort of forty cents to petrol prices. I
think when people start seeing those prices go up and
that portion of their weekly spending money disappear on the basics,

(18:23):
that might knock people a little bit.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
When does the Reserve Bank get involved? How long does
it have to go and the economic thing becomes real
before the Reserve Bank starts to run a commentary that's
slightly different from what they were running.

Speaker 15 (18:36):
Both putting aside the Middle East for a moment, our
expectations that would start rising sort of mid to later
this year. The situation in the Middle East may help
a little bit in a sense that of households are
having to divert more their spending to fuel. That means
they just simply have less money to spend on everything else,
So that may reduce domestic inflationary pressures. At the same time,
when you've got your retailers having to pay thousands of

(18:58):
dollars more for every shipping they bring in. That could
start to push up prices. It's not necessarily domestic inflation.
You know, those are things that were important, but it
might have the Reserve Bank a bit of concern.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, have a great week you Nick, appreciate it. Nick
Brunston and principal economist at the at the Good People
of Infometrics. Morning, Mike. It amazes me how every media
out there is hell bent on bagging the government when
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Richard Morning, Good Morning May updates Where are we at?

Speaker 18 (21:25):
Trump is reaching out to some media outlets again day
six of the war. He's telling Axios that he must
be involved in picking Iran's next leader. He says reports
to come Andy's son wash Taba is likely replacement for
father are quite unacceptable. They're wasting their time, says Trump,
adding the sun is a lightweight. Trump says he must
be involved in the appointment, just as he was in Venezuela.

(21:46):
The sun is fifty six. He is a hardline cleric.
He's never held any public office at all, but has
deep ties with the Revolutionary Guard. This Trump assertion as
the war is spilling beyond the Middle East. Azerbaijan has
been struck by two zones fired from Iran, wounding two people,
damaging a local airport. Iran is firing though fewer drones
and missiles as US and Israeli forces expand their control

(22:09):
of the air and sea. Former Pentagon spokesman, retired Colonel
Steve Warren says.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
We are striking them, and we are reducing the numbers
that they have. That doesn't mean they're empty.

Speaker 18 (22:19):
Though Pentagon says they are finding and destroying Iran's mobile
missile launches. Says Hegseth, the US Defense Secretary.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
We are accelerating, not decelerated.

Speaker 19 (22:31):
Well.

Speaker 18 (22:31):
The US has destroyed in Iranian warship, one of twenty
Iranian vessels. The US says it has taken out, but
again Pentagon giving few details. Before the war, Iran had
three submarines, eight frigates so smaller than a destroyer, two
corvettes more maneuver maneuverable vessels in its fleet, while the
Revolutionary Guards had hundreds of smaller fast vessels. The frigate

(22:53):
Dina was the one that was sunk with the US torpedo,
first time since World War II that the US Navy
sub has struck a vessel with the torpedo in combat,
and Israeli jet also got into an aerial dogfight with
an Iranian plane, first such encounter in years as well. Meantime,
on the political front, Europe is being drawn a little
more closely into this after Trump slams Spain and said

(23:14):
the UK's Keir Starmer has quote no Winston Churchill. The
UK is sending some extra jets to cutter while France
is allowing the US to use a base for non
combat purposes. Iran still is without the internet, so we're
hearing very little from inside the country, but one anti
government activist was able to get out this report.

Speaker 20 (23:33):
It is very very dangerous outside. Everybody from the regime
as the gun. Most of them are very ugly and
furious and they have a free will to shoot everybody.

Speaker 18 (23:50):
Hillish situation. The US State Department has started to arrange
flights for people stranded in the region of the questions
why evacuations weren't part of the initial planning in all this,
Trump aide Carolyn Levett asserts they did what they could
by issuing travel warnings.

Speaker 9 (24:06):
You can't be much more clear than that, do not
travel to these following countries.

Speaker 18 (24:10):
However, nine or fourteen countries involved said they were not
designated at high risk. The names of the six US
troops killed so far have been released. They include twenty
year old Sergeant Decklan Cody, whose sister are saying.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
It still don't for me.

Speaker 17 (24:27):
I think it's real.

Speaker 18 (24:28):
Defense Secrety Hegcess slammed the coverage being given here to
the American war dead.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
The press only wants to make the president look bad,
but try for once to report the reality.

Speaker 21 (24:40):
You get it.

Speaker 18 (24:40):
Not everything is about Trump.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
No is Gnome toast.

Speaker 18 (24:45):
There are reports that Trump is sounding out his aides
about whether she should be whether she should lose her job.
This after a couple of days of absolutely blistering hearings
for the head of the ICE Immigration cracked on. Much
of the sharp criticism coming from Republicans got to say
it was bruise. Nome was challenged about buying a jet
for her agency, a plane which has had a luxury

(25:06):
bedroom with a double bed and flatscreen TVs and all
the baraphernalia that Nome had used along with Curry Lewandowski,
her aid and alleged lover. It was said that this
plane was purchased for deportation of would be immigrants. Well,
Nome was certainly asked about.

Speaker 22 (25:26):
This, So, Secretary nom, at any time during your tenure
as Director of Department of Homeland Security, have you had
sexual relations with Corey Lewandowski, Mister Sherman, I am shocked
that we're going down and peddling tabloid garbage.

Speaker 18 (25:43):
No further answer. She was also pressed repeatedly about the
ice killings for No Good and Alex Pretty and whether
they were quite domestic terrorists, the term that Nome had
used right after the killings. She still refused to say
or to apologize. But the big issue for the White
House apparently is where the Gnome personally approved a three
hundred and seventy three million New Zealand dollar ad campaign

(26:04):
which prominently features Yeah, Christy Nome in all kinds of
military style getups. Trump is said to be angered by
this and by the spotlight being away from himself.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, good weekend. Richard Arnold back on Monday, Trade Court
bad news for Trump on Tariff's federal judge US Court
of International Trade has ordered Customs and Border Protection to
issue refunds for levy. So if we you were charged
for under IPA, it's the emergency business. Judge Richard Eaton says,
you need your money back. How that's going to happen, literally,
no one knows. Meantime, Bergham's been in Venezuela and was

(26:38):
having a word with Rodriguez as in Delsi, saying things
are going well, the oil's moving. They've adjusted their laws
around investment on all sorts of things, including now the
oil sector, and so life in Venezuela seems to be
going nicely. Thank you. Nine minutes away from ze so my.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Costing breakfast with a Vita retirement Communities news dogs had
been right.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
The stitch up around the poll this morning. This is
Taxpayer's Union Courier. They've got a number which will be
published today with National twenty eight, which doesn't dovetail, by
the way, with the internal polling in the National Party
and deare I suggest that polling within the National Party
is a lot more sophisticated than the Taxpayer Courier poll. Nevertheless,
the theme around it because they've leaked it to people

(27:19):
like Thomas Coglin. I think the guy from the Taxpayers
Union was on Heather Show yesterday. So there's a campaign
on to try and upset or roll LUXEM. So you're
going back to twenty five to five at twenty twenty.
That's a dumb number they're quoting. Twenty twenty election was
one out of the box. It was the COVID election.
You can't possibly argue that that's a number anyway. What

(27:40):
I want to know, and we don't know yet, is
say National gone down a couple, where's it gone? If
it's gone to labor problem, if it's gone to ACT
or New Zealand first, no problem. So that could be
a thing today. Five away from seven.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
The ins are the outs. It's the fizz with business favor.
Take your business productivity to the what do you reckon?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
The Fed Farmer's Confidence Survey says well, seventy percent say
the farm is currently profitable, no kidding. That's the highest
level since two thousand and nine when the survey began.
The farmers themselves confident about the current economic conditions double
no kidding, highest numbers since twenty seventeen thirty seven percent
feel positive at the moment. Commodity prices obviously sixty year

(28:21):
beef high, as low interest rates. It's all good. The
red tapes wing cup by the government as well. Net
score does drop off a bit when it comes to
future economic conditions, but that's classic farmers. If you say,
are you rolling in it? Not, well, we're not really
rolling in it. You know, it's all right, Well, what
about next year? Well, you know, Jennie's next year. I
don't know about next year at all. It also marks

(28:43):
the first negative profitability outlook for twenty Since twenty twenty four,
dairy farmers are leading that payouts around eight fifty nine
to fifty Now that number comes out of jen feb.
That'll go up since or has gone up since rising
input costs means the break even margin is at eight
fifty So profitability in dairy eighty one percent of dairy
farms are making money. Can I be honest if you

(29:05):
are not making money at the moment in dairy, I
would put your cows on trade, me go do something else,
make them all. Profitability sixty eight percent. That's up forty
four from forty four percent since last year. Forty four
to sixty eight.

Speaker 10 (29:17):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Arable still an issue, grains and seeds and stuff like that,
forty one percent. It's been a problem for a while,
but it is still better than it was so pretty much,
and the spending numbers back it up. I mean, if
you're in the rural sector, you are doing well. Thank
you very much. This banning of social media for under sixteens.
The reporter is out. It's as weird as more, shortly.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
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Speaker 1 (29:44):
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Speaker 2 (29:51):
For seven past seven. So the committee looking into whether
we should ban social media for under sixteens has produced
its final report. Now there's a bunch of recommendations, some
of which are just playing. We not to mention the
fact that there's also fallout between members over whether they
did their job properly or not. Now col Bates is
the one of the national members on that particular committee,
and as well as Calen Morning, Monnie Marke Curry you

(30:11):
very well. Thank you. Did you enjoy the experience.

Speaker 23 (30:14):
It was a really good process that we went through
that was originally planned to conclude at the end of
last year, but we took more time in order to
ensure that we did the job properly, and so I
enjoyed the process.

Speaker 10 (30:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Right, so you did the job properly. But ACT say
you didn't do the job properly, and the Green say
you didn't do the job properly either. So that's not
a lot of harmony, is there.

Speaker 23 (30:34):
Well, the Greens, I don't think staves and we didn't
do the job properly. They're saying that they don't agree
with all of the recommendations. Act in National Sorry National
and Labor rather are on board with the recommendations and
think that it's a balanced approach for us to take forward.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Is this typical of what happens in a select committee
because some of the recommendations you make are from outer space,
they're not real, they're just theoretical whiteboarding.

Speaker 23 (31:02):
So there's a range of recommendations, a number of which
reflect what's happening internationally, a number of what you are
about the government exploring options further, and some of what
are about immediate actions that can be taken now, regulate
it's appropriate.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Regulate algorithmic recommendation systems. Do you honestly think New Zealand
Inc's capable of doing that where no one else in
the world is.

Speaker 23 (31:26):
So there are some examples of where there's algorithmic experience.
You've been considered, particularly around research and allowing research. You'll
note that from a committee perspective, we said the government
should explore this, not saying let's just go and say
this should happen right now because of some of the
I suppose concerns you're raising yourself, mate.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, is it possible? How much of this in your
heart of hearts? How much of this is about being
seen to be doing something even though you know technically
it's not possible. Hence the Australian experience.

Speaker 23 (32:00):
There's a number of these things that heart of hearts
absolutely I want to see happen to ensure my kids,
to protect from the sort of harm that occures. Take
for example, preventing online advertising for alcohol, tobacco and gambling
for under eighteen year olds. Why wouldn't we want to
say that if a platform is aware the child is
under the age of eighteen, that they don't have that

(32:22):
sort of advertising put in front of them at every.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Opportunity now, so is this going anywhere?

Speaker 23 (32:30):
I think there's now the opportunity for Minister Stanford to
take the recommendations into the consideration of the work that
she's doing as the lead minister for the government and
respond on what actions we as New Zealand can take
to further this work. Look, this is a changing space,
it's rapidly moving. Part of the recommendation around the regulator

(32:52):
is enabling them to go or respond quickly to these
things and look at what's happening. Use that phrase fast follower,
not try and just do every thing and be a
leader and things that aren't going to work. That actually
respond will know that there's an opportunity to do something,
do it properly and ensure our children are protected from
online harm that is occurring.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Good to talk to you, Carl Bates, who's the national
member of that committee or a national member of that committee.
But I mean strength and Liability for online harm. Established
an independent national regulator. Well, that's going to work, isn't it.
Regulate healthgorithmic recommendation systems, mandate algorithm transparency, promote New Zealand
based research. Sure, consider further matters. I like to consider

(33:31):
further matters one ten minutes past seven task right to
this new job's idea between MSD and the various chambers
of commerce around the country. It's a new contract that
will and theory connect employers with pre screen work ready candidates.
Simon Bridges is the Auckland Business Chamber of Boston. He's
with a Simon morning to you.

Speaker 10 (33:47):
Hey, morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Why is this a thing? Why wasn't this done in
nineteen ninety three, nineteen eighty seven and twenty sixteen. This
doesn't seem like, I mean, we should have been doing
this years ago, shouldn't we.

Speaker 16 (33:56):
It's a great point.

Speaker 11 (33:57):
I think the reason is you look at employment's five
point four percent across the country, Auckland, look over six percent.
You go back to twenty one, twenty two, twenty three,
it was more like three percent.

Speaker 16 (34:08):
Right.

Speaker 11 (34:09):
So what that means, to use the technical language, is
you've got a lot of people now who aren't strongly
dislocated from the workforce, right, they're relatively recently out of work,
and they're different than you know, PEPs what Shane Jones
had called his nests on the couch. They're highly experienced,
they've got skills, they've got tertiary qualifications. In other words,

(34:29):
they're absolutely ready to get back into the workforce. And
then you add to that, and I suppose this is
the point that where you make a good point that
you know could have thought of this some time ago.
What if chambers of commerce got probably an unrivaled way
around the country.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
It's connection with.

Speaker 11 (34:43):
Employers and particularly small and medium businesses. So we've got
a good position to be the blue here right between
the biggest recruitment agency and the country with the most
job ready candidates MSD and employers who still tell me, look,
it's not where it was a couple of year years ago,
remember when no one could get any employee because the
taps had been turned off. But they still tell me

(35:06):
a day and day out that recruitment getting good employee
is one of their biggest issues.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
I would not agree. I was in a business this
week that said exactly that. Now here's my next question
based on that. How many of the unemployed people in
this country do you think are ready, are keen, and
are willing and capable, versus how many are unemployed who
really just are a bit useless.

Speaker 11 (35:25):
Well, of course you know the politically correct answer. They say, oh, well,
look I'd like to think, Mike, that they're all absolutely
rare and raring to go. You and I both know
in the real world that that's not the real answer.
But I think what is true at five point four percent? Ever,
I say in Auckland it's six point I think three
or four percent. Also, you've definitely got two or three
percent there that actually the numbers tell us that been

(35:48):
in work for a long time, they haven't been out long.
They've got skills, they've got tertiary qualifications. And by the way,
this is across the gamut. We're talking hospo, we're talking tourism,
we're talking construction. It ai that you're out there and
they want to get back. And we took one at
the Chamber of Commerce literally this week with this new program.

(36:10):
She seems outstanding, and you know, I'm pretty excited about it.
I think as much of anything, this is about changing perceptions. Right,
So that to your question, actually, then poor out there
says it doesn't think you know MSD. No, No, that's
about kind of other people that maybe aren't work ready. No,
there's definitely tens and tens of thousands that are and

(36:31):
that you should give a go.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Good stuff mate, go well, Simon Bridges, Auckland Chamber of
CEO thirteen minutes past pasking the poll this morning.

Speaker 10 (36:39):
The leak.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Came from the National Party, so that what's I guess
that part makes the story interesting. So how are these
numbers out? Before the numbers are out? The leak came
from the National Party, So Luxon, who's done a very
good job in uniting as part, he might be seeing
his party slightly unravel. Mike, you're sending very defensive about

(37:04):
this latest polling result. Not remotely. You also tried to
water down a terrible lux and interview. I didn't try
to water it down at all. I tried to put context.
Context is everything. I will ask David Seymour about it,
and he's with us. After seven thirty fourteen past.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
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Speaker 2 (37:23):
B David Seymour on the medicinal business as well as
the pole for you, shortly seventeen past seven.

Speaker 16 (37:28):
Now.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Part of the reason the Auckland bounce back economically is
on is basically because of weekends like the one we're
about to have its events Central Warriors Blues Champions Day
at ellis Lee Elite athletics Polo major golf tournament Round
the Bays is on. I'm looking to do the Round
the Bays in record time this year, so I should
be quite exciting. Auckland FC they're playing. There's a field,
there's a course, there's a circuit happening near you. Elaine

(37:50):
Linnell is the New Zealand Events Association gm and is
with us. Elaine, good morning to you, Good morning Mike.

Speaker 23 (37:57):
How are you well?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Thank you? How out of the box weekend with that
many events.

Speaker 24 (38:03):
Look, it's something that we haven't really seen that much before.
It's great that tataki Aukland Unlimited have sort of made
this coordination happen under the Footy Phillies and Fails banner.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
So it is coordinated, so it's not just a whole
bunch of random people who decide to do a bunch
of random things on the same day or weekend exactly.

Speaker 24 (38:20):
Well, especially when it comes to the sporting events that
are taking place this weekend, what.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Would your expectation be around participation and dollars? Will you
be able to you know, next week, see it and
feel it?

Speaker 16 (38:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (38:32):
Absolutely, you know events like this. The hotels is for
the restaurant's books. It's busy, you know. It flows through
every part of the city. You know, people who come
and do riund debates on Sunday morning will finish up
at the football People who go to the races can
end up at the rugby activities, creating more activity.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Can you potentially have too many events and stretch a
place and wallets or not?

Speaker 21 (38:56):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 24 (38:57):
I think this is sort of what we can do better.
You know, Auckland has done loads of major events in
the past. It can stretch the capacity. But I think
what we're seeing is just amount of people in the
city will just create that energy and the economic benefits
will flow through.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
And the forecast is excellent as well. You have a
good one. Elaine Linnell, who's the New Zealand of Ent
Association general manager. Guys Auckland boat show. That's not as
Well's Pete Montgomery doing that Mike Luckson's poll as a
result of New Zealand's obsession with mediocrity. It's not Luckxeon's pole.
I mean the important there's two really important things that
we're even with this pole ever comes out, we'll allbe

(39:35):
at the pub and willness at anyway point being this,
look for the blocks. It doesn't matter. I mean it
matters to national obviously, but look to the blocks. Where's
if there's a drop for national as they suggested twenty eight,
where's that number gone to. If it's gone to Act
New Zealand first, then nothing changes. In other words, is
the block getting re elected or not? Come the election point?

(39:56):
And this is where I'm getting sick and tired of
the polling in this country at the moment. The dologies
up up the spout and the participation rates and the
toilet and the handing out bloody food vouch is to
take part. I mean it, the whole thing is pathetic.
But nevertheless, I can't avoid the fact that will be
for the media obsessed A story today seven to twenty.

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current events. It's as popular as a loud speaker at
do Buy Airport saying all those booked on EK four
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are the war six.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
We've had a very very powerful impire.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
As much as you want to give a number to
a war, obviously this is not World War three. It
is not going to last four years. It's most likely
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Harvey nine, my hero of the week. Read her piece

(42:03):
in the Herald. She's an Iranian lawyer with an argument
that decimates Clark's thinking as effectively as that subdd to
the Iranian warship yesterday. Dairy nine, I mean, is it
now close to being ridiculous? Five auctions from five? The
protein surge is real. We are making bank exports eight.
Not just dairy, but meat and tourism joined the big

(42:24):
boys party.

Speaker 25 (42:25):
Mike Costking said this morning, I think the tourism stuff
this week is the best story of the week so far.

Speaker 10 (42:32):
Tourism is back.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Good Yeah, good stuff. Who is the person who said
good stuff? Good stuff? Spending seven see Feb seven, Glenn,
well done. Feb was a very good month to Auckland,
the biggest increase in two years. The buzz is real.
Foreign house buys eight as of today, Well come and
fill your boots. Bank lending seven more money the first
time is more money going to low depositors. This can

(42:55):
be no bad thing and counters the research, of course
that suggested this week that housing for young people was
over see. At some point we're going to learn that
what we say and what we do are two completely
different things. Bill, I saw nothing Clinton.

Speaker 14 (43:06):
For I'm going to answer your question, are you going yep?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Overshadowed by his wife who looks as feisty as ever,
and all things considered came out pretty well, almost as
though they were called as a political stunt. Dave Rennie
seven got there at last. I mean, but how low
key was it really? I mean, this is possible. We
just aren't as invested as we once were in all
black rugby warries. Eight an't the last ye here we
go Liam eight, a new season, new cars, and who

(43:34):
the hell knows how it's going to unfold. It isn't
that what's great? Isn't that what great sport is really
all about? And that is the week copies on the
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(43:55):
mister speaker.

Speaker 25 (43:56):
Tourism industryalt here OR chief executive Rebecca Ingram has said,
magnificant effort has been injected into stimulating demand and getting
New Zealand tourism back on the map. Tourism businesses love
what they do. This information shows that this passion translates
to more jobs, valuable export earnings and continued growth. She

(44:16):
also said this summer we have seen changes to our
visa settings for China which has made a real difference,
and we've seen quite considerable activity to stimulate demand. Mike
Hosking said this morning, I think the tourism stuff this
week is the best story of the week so far.

Speaker 10 (44:35):
Tourism is back.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
And Mike for the record is right, no fluff.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Just facts and fierce debate.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
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Speaker 2 (44:53):
For petful Yet the plugma ev into the plague and
mcgarrick all good on you. I wanted for that to start.
Turns out five days, as he answered, twenty three minutes
away from eight in a week where we have once
again celebrated dairy and tourism. Is income in is? How
about medicinal cannabis? Is it the new export stream forests?
We export more than a ton of cannabis flower in

(45:14):
twenty twenty four, which was up from forty nine kgs
in twenty twenty one, so you can see the growth
path there. Government's now exploring ways to cut red tape.
David Seymour is the Minister of Regulation and also the
Assaciate Minister of Health and is with us. Good morning,
good morning may this sector of this product in terms
of regulation, is it any different to meat or kiwi fruit?

Speaker 26 (45:33):
It is because cannabis remains an illegal drug in New Zealand,
so you can't just grow it anyone can grow a
kiwi fruit tree, it's still illegal to do that with marijuana.
That's meant that medsafe has had to regulate every batch,
impose quite bureaucratic laws that don't exist overseas. We last

(45:54):
year or the year before, we said, look, you know,
if it meets the standards of the country you're exporting to,
you can do it, but you still need a license.
The licensing has been quite complicated. We've basically half the
time it takes to get a license, but we want
to further simplify that because regardless of what people may
think of this product, there's a market for it, and

(46:14):
it's a couple hundred million dollars estimated that brings money
into the country. It's good jobs for people, and if
we want to catch other countries economically, this could help
them two ways.

Speaker 14 (46:25):
It speeds us up and slows them down.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
What's the bigger problem the exporting license red tape issue
or the stigma around the product or to the export markets.
There is no stigma. They want it, they buy it.

Speaker 26 (46:36):
Look, it's becoming normalized. I realize there'll be people listening saying,
why is this guy promoting marijuana?

Speaker 14 (46:41):
But you know, The fact is that there's a market
out there.

Speaker 26 (46:44):
There's a community that's these medicinal marijuana is a legitimate
way to treat their ailments, and good on them, and
if we can make a lot of money out of it,
then let's go for it. Let's not have any needless
red tape. In fact, let's cut the red tape so
people can get more of the green.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Is there any sophistication around I just know people who
got into the industry and they went bust. It had
a crypto vibe about it because everyone jumped on. Is
there any sophistication around the industry, Yeah, there is.

Speaker 26 (47:11):
I mean I've visited some of these places where they're
growing it, and it's seriously sophisticated stuff. For the amount
of investment, the secure facilities, the labs. You know, these
aren't cowboys. These are people that have sunk serious capital
into their businesses so that they can grow legally and
securely and efficiently and at a very high quality. I

(47:33):
mean I compared it to the wine industry, and some
people may scoff at that, but basically you're producing a
very high end product for people to use that they
see as being having a therapeutic or important value for
them to consume. And New Zealand has a brand that
we can produce really good, pure natural stuff.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
That answers my next question sort of the New Zealand Inc.
Aspect of that. So is it like wine and there
is a brand around that. If you're going to buy
this stuff, New Zealand does it better than others. So
it's a quality story, not a quantity story.

Speaker 26 (48:06):
Yeah, I think that's what the people in the industry
would like. I mean that the quantity is going up massively.
You know, four years ago it was fifty kilograms. Last year,
New Zealand business has literally exported a ton of medical
marijuana over one thousand kilograms. So it's multiplied by twenty
in just a few years, partly since we've relaxed the

(48:27):
regulations around it. And I ultimately, you know, how they market,
it's up to the commercial enterprises. My job is to
make sure that there's no red tape making it harder
than it needs to be.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Okay, do you know about the courier pole coming today?

Speaker 16 (48:40):
Oh?

Speaker 26 (48:40):
Look, I hear all the gossip going around Wellington. But
all I know is we've still got a job to
do and might as well do it well and we'll
be rewarded if we do, and we won't if we don't.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
And having said that, I'm told that Luxtant's considering his position.
Is it that serious or is this just some some
shit stirring from some people who want to cause trouble.

Speaker 26 (49:00):
Well, one thing I say for Luxton is, you know,
he's pulled together a coalition that a lot of people
said was impossible. I think we all deserve a bit
of credit for that, and that includes him. He's led
New Zealand through some really tough times, a massive clean
up job. And then people just want to beat on
the guy and wanted to say for all of us,
I mean to forget Chris for a moment. We all

(49:21):
need to stop beating on people. I look at this
coverage that he's had in the last few days. You
know what's more important? Is it how do we turn
the economy around? Or did some guy misspeak at one
point during the week. I mean, I just think the
whole thing is dragging us down as a country.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Couldn't agree with you more. Is he a handbreak on
the coalition?

Speaker 21 (49:38):
Though?

Speaker 26 (49:40):
Well, the coalition functions in part because Chris has been
a good manager, and I think, actually, you know, I've
got positive things to say about him. Do we disagree
on policies, of course, That's why I'm in the Act Party.
We always want to go faster on smaller government and
so on. But you know, basically, the fact that we're
all still here working together, I think is a tribute
to the guy.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
People should probably look at some of the bigger.

Speaker 26 (50:03):
Trends that are going on in New Zealand rather than
trying to beat them up about you know, some some
minor word that he said or didn't say.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Nice to talk to you, well, said David Seymour. With us,
it's seventeen minutes away from I make it eighteen eighteen
away from it. I referenced in the marking of the
Week Samira to Carvey. If you haven't read it, please do.
She's the Uranian lawyer. She writes this. I attended Clark's
Helen aut talk last Thursday and left with the distinct
impression that she is quite unaffected by realism. I mean,

(50:37):
slamm duck, that's all.

Speaker 14 (50:38):
I try to remain unaffected by realism exactly.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Having introduced myself there, I explained that I had practiced
law in Iran until the age of twenty four, that
I had been in prison, tortured and lashed by Islamic
Republic thugs, and that I continue working in human rights
advocacy now in New Zealand. I asked what I consider
to be the central question. When every peaceful mechanism has failed,
When you resolution, special rapperteurs, human rights council sessions and

(51:03):
diplomatic negotiations have not dismantled the regime's coerce of machinery,
what is left to save us? The doctrinaire response was
that apparently only a toothless cycle of failed steps is available,
and its inefficacy is just how life is. As for
the breach of international law argument, it is not unusual
for non legally qualified people like Clark to assume that

(51:26):
certainty lies in legal texts from which they take strength.
But going deeper, it is very arguable that the American
Israeli position is legal. Even so, using legal text as
the reason not to say people is unredeeming. When I
pressed on how international actors should weigh external legality against
internal regime brutality, there was no substantive answer, but instead

(51:48):
vague confidence expressed in the ballot box. She concludes, as well,
we're reading the whole thing because it's brilliant. She concludes,
if international law is to mean anything, it must be
capable of con fronting the structures that violate it. Otherwise,
we are not defending human rights. We are defending only
the comfort of an action, a true disgrace to the

(52:09):
imprisoned nation of a run.

Speaker 10 (52:12):
Can't I argue with it? Can you?

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Sixteen to two, The.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Talks a developing Christineome is gone. It was an hour ago.
We're talking to Richard Arnold about it, the plane, Corylewandowski,
the hearing yesterday, the publicity, the money, the spend. So
Trump has just announced that Homeland Security Secretary Christinome is
no longer. Mark Wayne Mullen. Mark Wayne is one word,

(52:45):
not Mark dash Wayne, Just Mark Wayne Mullen.

Speaker 14 (52:51):
One of the people you said good night to on
this little house of the prairie.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
No Mark Wayne can night. Jimbob. I'm reading about this morning,
and this is why I'm absolutely convinced this thing isn't
going to go long. They can't afford for it too Dubai, Doha,
Abu Dhabi, whichever one you want. So the millionaire population
in Dubai has doubled since twenty fourteen. There's more than
eighty one thousand millionaires in Dubai. The real estate market

(53:17):
luxury has grown five straight years in a row, five
hundred property selling last year for more than ten million dollars.
The economic model is based on expatriate residents providing the brains,
the brawn, the investment capital. What you need for that
is stability and security to bring in smart foreigners, which
they've very very successfully done. They're now looking to book
private jets to get the hell out so that cannot

(53:37):
be allowed to continue. The UA's National Emergency, Crisis and
Disasters Management Authority say the situation's under control, which broadly speaking,
it is. You don't want to be there if you're
a transitting tourist, obviously, but if you live in Dubai,
it's uncomfortable, it's not ideal, but you know, it's not
actually the end of the world. They're not in a
war zone per se. Dubaia's police, though they're threatening to

(54:01):
arrest in jail social media influencers who share social contact
that content that contradicts official announcements. So there's a repression
aspect to that particular part of the world. They've got
two hundred and thirty seven cent a millionaires, they're people
worth one hundred million or more. They've got at least
twenty billionaires. Ninety eight hundred millionaires moved to Dubai just
last year. They brought with them sixty three billion dollars

(54:22):
in wealth. That's more than any other country in the world. Now,
why do they go will the sunshine? Obviously, mind you,
fifty is repressive in July degrees. That is, there is
no personal income tax, there is no capital gains tax,
there is no inheritance tax. Not a lot of labor
voters are probably full of labor voters for now. Many
wealth families and wealthy professionals are focused on getting out.
The demand for private jets far exceeds available seats and flights.

Speaker 16 (54:46):
So that is why.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
You cannot spend the trillions that region has in reinventing
land in the shape of palm trees to park, hotels
and apartment buildings on if all of a sudden, somebody
on the map decides that they're going to throw a
few drones at you. It's simply, to their mind not acceptable.
And that is why, ultimately, along with the price of
oil and I'll come back to Ambrose Pritchard later, along

(55:11):
with the price of oil in America, those two things alone,
self interest and economic reality will end the war. Ten
minutes away from it, the Mic.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Hosking Breakfast with Ranger of a sport sv News Togs.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Dead b Gnoma is going to be listened to this
special envoy for the Shield of the Americas. And you've
got to congratulate Trump on making up the stupidest job
in the history of anything, the Shield of the Americas.
She will be the special envoy that I know it
doesn't even make sense. We're trying to work out what

(55:45):
that actually means. Farmers Markets seven away from it. By
the way, Farmers Markets, I've got some new data around
them this morning. They now support more than a thousand
food producers in this country, attracting fifty thousand shoppers every week.
Tony Kato is one example of that. He runs Parongia
Mountain Vegetables. Annie's w's Tony Morning, good morning.

Speaker 13 (56:02):
Might call you today very well.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Indeed, I can tell by your voice immediately You're not
the Tony Kto I used to work with many years
ago at radio in New Zealand.

Speaker 21 (56:09):
No, no, no, there will be someone else. No no,
I'm just a market gardener here and prong you what.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Do you grow?

Speaker 21 (56:17):
We grow predominantly root vegetables, potatoes, broccoli and bressacas or
we also grow twenty ton of cabbage for the sauerkraut industry,
your napper cabbages for your kimchi kim chie sprinkles. Were
the guys who run who grow those things?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Arm On kim? Are you you're the source of the
kim cheese sprinkles?

Speaker 21 (56:40):
Certainly? Yeah, mate, We grow a fair number of those
who've just been put on the ground now ready for
our Autuman winter harvests.

Speaker 13 (56:47):
Do you get the kimchi sprink do that?

Speaker 14 (56:49):
Yes?

Speaker 21 (56:50):
We do, yep. We put them on just about everything's a.

Speaker 10 (56:54):
Bit of a top up.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
They're the greatest thing in the world, apart from the
industry itself. Do you take all your stuff to market?

Speaker 10 (57:00):
Yes?

Speaker 21 (57:00):
Ninety percent of our produce goes to three farmers' markets
by a plenty, and the two way kato ones every
Saturday and Sunday.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
What's your sense of the farmer's market industry. Is it going,
is it growing? Booming? And you know it's become a thing?

Speaker 21 (57:16):
Oh, most definitely yes, Yep. Every market we go, do
we see an increase of different different types. It's been
nothing but grown. We've been in the markets for fifteen
nearly twenty years now, and just especially after the COVID area,
we've just seen an increase in customers wanting to know
where that food comes from, and they get to speak

(57:40):
directly to the grower so they know exactly where it's from.
Its irritation.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
The story is the thing, isn't it. People like to
know the story, where it came from, who you are,
what you grew, where the farmers and that that that
means something to people, doesn't it.

Speaker 21 (57:56):
Yes, it certainly does. Yes, there's nothing like quite like
going something straight to the consumer and that's super interested
in that and where it comes from, especially and a
lot of it's fresher, its tastes better. It's generally picked
the day before we get to the markets, so you're
not going to get it much better than that.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Couldn't agree more. Well, I'm glad it's going so well
for you, Tony. Nice to talk to you appreciate it
very much, and God bless you on the Kimchi sprinkles
Tony Kata Parongia Mountain. It's just these farmers' markets. And
not that I don't like supermarket. Supermarkets have got their place,
and I'm a support of competition in the supermarkets and
all that sort of stuff. But why you would buy
vegetables from a supermarket, I've got no idea. Why you
would buy your meat from a supermarket. I've got no idea.

(58:38):
There are specialists out there who will do things that
you just can't if you just live at a supermarket
and that's all you know. There are people out there
who will do things to meet and products and vegetables
and fruit.

Speaker 19 (58:49):
Generally, when you get hold of it, you just will
not believe how magical things can be.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Speaking of which, by the way, do you realize Country
Calendar is sixty years old today? It is this very day,
sixty years ago that Country Calendar started, and what a thing.
It's the greatest New Zealand television program ever produced, apart
from seven sharp the years twenty fourteen through seventeen when
I was on it news. In a couple of moments,
then we'll do the Week with Katie.

Speaker 13 (59:13):
And two.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Asking the questions others won't the mic asking, Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, communities,
Life Your Way, News, togs hed Be.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Mike. Great to hear Tony Cato on your show. We
have an artisan family butchery and Tower Mutu and Antony's
been supplying us with fabulous gray freed to my potatoes
for eat years. Recently lost a lot of us crop
with the recent floods, which has had a massive impact
on this business. Very humble, hard working, failure in the community,
to write by it and it's the country is festooned.

(59:48):
If you're not into the farmer's market thing. The country
is festooned with people who grow staff for artisan or
artisanal products.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Mustards, cress.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
This is of various descriptions. Heritage vegetables are an interesting area.
This doesn't sound like Bruno Mars kind of like Bob
Marley or he's got a Regaeesque sort of feel to it.
There was a teenage gap between twenty four K Magic
and The Romantic. They were his third and fourth albums.
He's been round recently with Garga Die with a smile.

(01:00:22):
I didn't like it. I didn't have a lot of
time for that. But anyway, he's the reason he hasn't
been doing the albums. He's been at the MGM in
Vegas where they renamed Park Avenue Bruno Mars Drive. Anyways,
finally got back to the recording studio and he's produced this,
which is this is really this background us?

Speaker 14 (01:00:47):
Isn't its background background music?

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
No?

Speaker 23 (01:00:51):
Not really?

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Don't like to know what I'm doing with the background.
Thirty one thirty thirty one minutes and thirty seconds, nine tracks.
I would rather listen to who's sponsoring.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
A week in Review with two degrees? Fighting for fair
for Kiwi business.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Said that to music? We're off and running to me,
how are you?

Speaker 13 (01:01:09):
Yeah, I'm good, Mike. How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Timmy? I'm good, Okay, how are you?

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
What's it back the truck up?

Speaker 13 (01:01:15):
What's You're?

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Very very low key to me?

Speaker 16 (01:01:19):
How are you?

Speaker 10 (01:01:20):
Mike?

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
I'm very good. It's like, you know, like the war
start and you've been sucked into thinking Russias about to
join the fray and spread around the region.

Speaker 13 (01:01:30):
Can you say hello to Kate?

Speaker 19 (01:01:31):
And then I need to correct a massive piece of
disinformation that you promulgated on the show about ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Ago morning, Kate. Oh, I'm interested to hear this might
be Yeah, me too.

Speaker 19 (01:01:41):
Okay, So so it is not Little House on the
Prairie where people said good night?

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Quite right? Did we say that?

Speaker 13 (01:01:49):
Thank you? Thank you very much?

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Said that? My sincere said that was outrageous. No one was.
No one was a bigger fan than of the Waltons
than I was.

Speaker 13 (01:01:59):
Go chrief, I bet, I bet you and Kate still
say good night to each other. Good night, mikey whykey.

Speaker 19 (01:02:05):
And with a big pash have a big pash every night,
all right enough, which they which they wouldn't do on
the Waltons.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Michael learned. I always thought she was very, very attractive
and very good actress.

Speaker 16 (01:02:19):
Who was she?

Speaker 19 (01:02:20):
She was missus, she was Missus Walton, missus Walteramore.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I don't know who he is, mind you. Okay's like
two boomers tribling got about something. It's still a thing. Well,
Melissa Gilbert I was a big fan of as well.
She was in a Little House on the Prairie. And
what was Michael's name the star of the show that
made Michael Michael Landon?

Speaker 13 (01:02:40):
Okay, so what was what was Dad's nickname for Melissa Gilbert.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
It was something like, was it half point? Hard Pint
was to It was to, well, there's a segment are
you still with us? No, there's a segment here of
TeV nostalgia.

Speaker 13 (01:02:57):
Isn't there?

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
In fact, there's probably if we go to an give
you the credit, Tim, If we go to New Zealand
on air and say we've got a show for TV nostalgia,
quiz show for TV nostalgia, I reckon to be an
instant hit game.

Speaker 27 (01:03:14):
That's why they're remaking all the old movies. I mean,
we've got nothing but nostalgia these days, because the world
is such a ship show, We've got nothing but nostalgia.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
We long for the good old days. Speaking of it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Can we can we not?

Speaker 19 (01:03:25):
That's the second S bomb in the hour? Can we
just wrap up washing? And I refer you, Tim to
the BSA's current research project that allows an increasing number
of these words perfectly acceptable among the wider New Zealand community.
So I'm ready to embrace it more importantly. Calendar, but
it's a slippery slope from S bomb to F bomb?

Speaker 13 (01:03:46):
Where do you end?

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
That's a good question. Our country calendar this.

Speaker 27 (01:03:50):
Weekend because the Warriors are playing, and so the how to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Say, I'm actually bullish, Kadie. It's only the roosters, and
I don't say that lightly. But between the f one
and the Supercars and the Warriors this weekend, it is
quite the weekend.

Speaker 27 (01:04:07):
Huge weekend on the sofa, isn't it.

Speaker 19 (01:04:09):
I don't think you might.

Speaker 13 (01:04:11):
Yeah, yeah, My only concern happened in the Hosking house.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
My biggest concern is my knee, which has come right
because I've rehabbed it all week. And my concern is
as I leap off the sofa, whether I reinjured. Yeah, now,
and so.

Speaker 13 (01:04:30):
You've got to spectator injury.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Yeah exactly. And so I've never injured myself while watching sport,
and I don't think I could bring myself to express
it publicly if I did, if it went wrong for me,
they go, how'd you do it?

Speaker 10 (01:04:42):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
You're limping? How'd you do it? I go, well, I was,
I was, I was getting crossed the line after four
minutes probably be probably be an acc.

Speaker 10 (01:04:56):
Yes, if it is.

Speaker 13 (01:04:58):
If it is, I want to reverse the title.

Speaker 28 (01:05:00):
Hey, hey, us, I just want to agree with you
about Samara Ta Garvey, the Arrangan lawyer. Do you know
who no, I no, I don't, but she she encapsulates
it absolutely, which is how does international legality change in
illegal fugus regime?

Speaker 10 (01:05:16):
An agreement?

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
She's the way she put it was beautifully articulate. I
I was in awe of the way she was able
to express herself, by the way before I forget our
country calendar is sixty today. Speaking of television and nostalgia,
is that now, Katie will disagree, won't you. It's I
think it's of all the television.

Speaker 27 (01:05:34):
You're obsessed with that you are obsessed with.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Country because you know what it is. It's it reminds
you of what all that's good about New Zealand and the.

Speaker 27 (01:05:47):
Nostalgia again, more nostalgia.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
It's current. It's not like the olden days. This is current.
These these are people out there.

Speaker 19 (01:05:55):
Yeah, and it's a it's a counter narrative to oh
so and so is down in the poles.

Speaker 13 (01:06:00):
So and so misspoke.

Speaker 19 (01:06:01):
So it's like it's it's real, it's it's it's people
on the land and we love the land.

Speaker 23 (01:06:06):
That's good news.

Speaker 27 (01:06:07):
It's usually good news. Good people, good good, good families
doing hard, good work. And I think everybody that's always
good news story for everybody, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Yeah, couldn't agree.

Speaker 19 (01:06:15):
You sound like you're warming up, Kate reading videos.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
I'll get a couple of back copies for your anniversary,
Alfree Nadia who works at TV and zid I'll get
I'll get you a couple of back copies and you
can go into the other television room while the Warriors
are on and get yourself up to speed room.

Speaker 13 (01:06:32):
They're an alternate television rooms.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
We've got several television rooms depending on what the it's
like dogs. I suppose well and Lulu's got our own
television own room. Outrage more in a Moment fourteen past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
It by News Talks seventeen past eight, The Weekend Review
with two degrees bringing smart business solutions to the table.
Just watching Chris you know who happens having just been
sacked to be at an avingon Nashville taking questions and
none of the questions are about her being fired yet.

(01:07:10):
And the suggestion was from Glenn that they may not
in the room no yet, which I find hard to
believe because news moves at the pace of whatever, really
fast paced stuff gout gout moves at the pace of
gout gout.

Speaker 14 (01:07:23):
But you know that is the sort of the middle
of the country as opposed to the edges of the country.
Its long.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
I understand what you're saying, Tim Caddy. Where it's qu
quick question for you, Caddy? How long? Where would you
be staying at the Dubai you're transitting to us? Where
would you be? What would you be at the would
you be at the raffles? Well, no, wouldn't you?

Speaker 27 (01:07:44):
Um, well, would you not be at.

Speaker 19 (01:07:46):
The No, because that's tacky, you'd be that's tad.

Speaker 10 (01:07:52):
I've never been.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
I'd be at the raffles. So at the raffles? How
long would you need to be stuck there before? And
I understanding is they're giving free accommodation and food. How
long would you need to be stuck there before you
became worried?

Speaker 16 (01:08:06):
Oh?

Speaker 27 (01:08:07):
I'm i First of all, when they say don't travel
to certain countries, I'm someone who wouldn't do that because
I'm really risk averse. Secondly, the second, the very first
anything happened, I would be gone. I would be looking
for an escape out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Yes, that applies to about two hundred thousand people currently.
So given that you haven't been able to go on
booking dot com and get a seat, how long before
you're getting nervous?

Speaker 7 (01:08:32):
I'd been nervous the whole time.

Speaker 23 (01:08:33):
I've been nervous. Wreck.

Speaker 27 (01:08:34):
I'll be a total wreck.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
You know how we're going to Europe this year? When
you said let's go Emirates, were you just joking?

Speaker 10 (01:08:44):
Ah?

Speaker 13 (01:08:45):
I was this old boy stuck. You've got stop ivery
shows to you.

Speaker 9 (01:08:48):
No, we do not.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
We're going the other way. Obviously we usually do.

Speaker 27 (01:08:52):
No, but Emirates would be a preferred.

Speaker 19 (01:08:53):
Choice to fly so well behind there in New Zealand.
Of course, just being patriotically for a moment, How did
did you start go to Europe?

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
They do not where?

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
How long tim would you have to be stuck in
Dubai before you became nervous?

Speaker 13 (01:09:11):
Well, if I'm staying at the raffles with free food
and what is it? Free food and accommodation, yes.

Speaker 19 (01:09:16):
I'd take the family and we'd have a holiday too far?

Speaker 10 (01:09:20):
Do you think No?

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
In all seriousness, And this is interesting because that's why
I asked the question. So the royal family comes out
the other day. They all truck down to the local
cafe for coffee to prove that life in Dubai is normal.
So can you do you think you've really only seen
the Fairmont on fire from bit of shrapnel from a drone.
Apart from that, thing's reasonably okay. Can you have a
holiday and carry on or would you constantly be lying

(01:09:45):
awake at night thinking this is this is not good?

Speaker 19 (01:09:49):
I probably yeah, I probably wouldn't be going there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
No, but you're there. You're stuck. You're a transit passage.

Speaker 19 (01:09:56):
Okay, Okay, Well you see the Fairmont burning? How long
goes the Fairmont burning?

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Three days?

Speaker 13 (01:10:02):
Three days?

Speaker 19 (01:10:03):
The more days you were away from the Fairmont burning,
the more delicious the free food tastes you reckon. So
you'd be okay for the foreseeable Yeah, I think, Well,
maybe my risk profile is a bit higher now, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Next question, Katie. When the C one thirty gets there
from New Zealand, which will be I'm thinking probably mid April,
are you hopping on board?

Speaker 10 (01:10:26):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Is this one of the new ones? One of the
fun Now it's not one of the new ones. There's
nothing new about it. So when it arrives, are you
hopping on board?

Speaker 19 (01:10:35):
And do you care?

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Where they take you.

Speaker 27 (01:10:37):
Yeah, see, that's a real problem.

Speaker 16 (01:10:39):
You know.

Speaker 27 (01:10:39):
I've got real sympathy for the people that are in
this at the moment. This reminds me very much of
when COVID happened, and there were always two sides. There
was always the truth was somewhere in the middle. You know,
the government was saying one thing, people in mi IQ
and other places were saying something completely different. And you've
got people there on the ground saying, we can't get
hold of them, fat, we don't know what's happening. And

(01:10:59):
then you've got industry saying we're doing everything we can.
We've got a twenty four seven Da da da, We're
doing this. We just just sit tired. It's all cool
somewhere in the middle, all by the truth. And I
have enormous sympathy for people who are stuck in it
because it must be incredibly anxious, especially if you've got
kids and stuff like that.

Speaker 13 (01:11:13):
Yeah, yeah, how long how long before you freak out?

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Mike, I'd go for a good week. I'd be there
for a good week. I'm absolutely convinced this isn't isn't going.
I mean, this is not ideal. Don't don't get me wrong.
This is a this is a calamity. But I'm absolutely
convinced this isn't going to become a thing. And therefore
I would see that, feel that, and I would be
comfortable to stay there for at least a week, if
not slightly longer.

Speaker 19 (01:11:37):
The same thing you said about this new new carrier
pole this morning, what about it is consistent message?

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Just as it's not a thing, It isn't a thing.
I personally I couldn't give a monkey, but there is
there is a there is a vibe of foot two
and you can tell it's election. You have to cause
as much trouble as is possible, I think.

Speaker 19 (01:11:57):
And I think, I think, I think also misses the
fact that Kewees are mostly a political so you know,
remember twenty twenty three, you've got the Minister of Justice
being pursued by police dogs on a Sunday afternoon three
months before the election.

Speaker 13 (01:12:08):
Good and the government doesn't go down in the polls.
Very good point.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Nice to see you, guys. Tim Wilson, Kate Hawks we
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one thirty, So my apologies that that's the case. The
file footage I saw certainly wasn't of the new ones.
They looked awfully old to me. But be that does
it make this SE one thirty is they look essentially
the same and I just don't know that. I'd be critical.
Part is where are they taking you? They're taking you
to Amman, to Jordan. And then what, Mike, We've got
an office in Dubai, all staff at work and they

(01:13:23):
all note not to pay too much attention to the
international media as life is still going on with minimal disruption. Campbell,
thank you for that. Mark Harney, how do you get
that wrong? How do you turn up in Australia and
tell the Parliament that Australia was the first country in
the world to give women the vote? I mean, who
told him to say that? And why didn't he know? Anyway?
Murray olds. But moments away you're on the Mike Hosking.

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Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Mike wife is stuck in to buy in a motel
by the airport where you go each morning to change
your flight as the one se books canceled. Back to
the motel, go to the supermarket to hit some food,
get a text alert to stay indoors, return to the room,
wait to hear explosions. Watch Netflix sleep repeat, bit stressed out. Now, yeah,
that would be draining, There's no question that that would
be draining. But I'm just trying to paint a picture

(01:14:20):
that there are certain parts of You've got to look
at a map. People all think it's like one neighborhood,
like whether the UAE or Quitar or Qaight or Aman
or Jordan or Iraq or ira it's or just kind
of the Middle East, whereas it's a vast, vast, vast expense.
And I was looking at a flight radar yesterday and

(01:14:41):
the area around Iran, of course is clear, but round
the edges, you know, there are still thousands of flights
around the place. And that's always been the case. But
I fully get that if you were stuck there. That's
the no end in sight I think is the deal,
isn't it? You know, day to day and Dubai would
be fine, But the no end in sight thing, I
think that's the problem. Twenty two minutes away from nine.

Speaker 17 (01:15:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Business make Murray olds will How are you, ma'am?

Speaker 16 (01:15:07):
Good morning, Michael, Yeah, pretty good. After a busy week
over here.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
I reckon, it's all one at your place. Tell me
how Mark Carney turns up talks to Parliament. I was
watching him live yesterday. He's forget politics for just a moment.
He comes across as a likable bloke, doesn't.

Speaker 16 (01:15:20):
He Well, very impressive. This is a guy who's not
only run the Central Bank of Canada, he's also run
the Bank of England. Yeah, so he's a man of
considerable intellectual firepower, and he makes a pretty strong case.
I mean, Tony Abbott in the Australian newspaper this morning,
the former Australian Prime Minister takes Carney to task. He says, well,
he's just he's a bit of a weasley old cop out,

(01:15:41):
a bit like Alban Ezy, you know, a smaller middling
international players taking this kind of low road whereas you know,
I mean, for some bizarre reason, Tony Abbitt's putting Trump
on some pedestal by calling out Keir Starmer and saying
he's no Winston Churchill. That's rich coming from Trump. Goodness. Yeah,
so canny. Yes, he's a very impressive fellow and I

(01:16:04):
think he certainly wowed the Parliament.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
And but for a bloke who's that bright, How is
it you can stand there and go and the lack
of applause told us that the Australians knew it not
to be true. How does he tell you that Australia
gave women the vote first when it's I think internationally
recognized that New Zealand do is it? And Australians know that.
I mean, that's such a weird thing for a guy
to say when no one obviously in fact checks.

Speaker 16 (01:16:28):
It that's true. I mean, perhaps the staff wrote because
I mean everyone knows that Kis gave women the vote first. Yeah,
the over too, didn't we.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Yeah we did. Yeah, we did a lot of stuff
far Lap split in. So you know, I know the
Australians will claim all of that, but it's bollocks. Before
I get on to Kyle and Jackie, Oh, just quickly
on the Pharaoh by election thing, and Little Proud was
talking it down yesterday. Two questions he was suggesting they
might come last. Two is his job in trouble? And
if it is, who's coming for him?

Speaker 11 (01:17:00):
Well?

Speaker 16 (01:17:01):
Good questions, all of them, and yes, I think he
is in trouble. I think the Nationals are in a
lot of trouble in Pharaoh. But so to the Liberals,
I mean, it's a test for both Angus Taylor, the
new Liberal leader, and for David Diddleprout, because they've both
gone swaggering into rolling Susan Lee and they've come out
the other side and she's gone, we'll see you guys,
and they've gone whoops, hang on. Pauline Hanson's running rampant

(01:17:23):
in the polls, and they've got this woman, Michelle Milthorpe,
who's extremely popular in the electorate. Don't forget the electric
by the ways, four times the size of Belgium, So
Susan Lee was able to get around in her aircraft
twenty five years she was the MP there, so she
must have been doing things right. But there's you know,
based on that, I think there'd be very little residual

(01:17:46):
goodwill for the likes of Angus Taylor and the Liberals
who've rolled their popular local member. And Little Proud's just
not on the nose. So if Milthorpe wins, or God
help us, whoever runs for one Nation wins, those two
guys are in a lot of trouble. Certainly David Little
Proud because he's not popular outside Queensland Michael McCormick. He's

(01:18:07):
a new South Wales guy who once upon a time
did leave the Nationals. He could put his hand out
Barnaby Joyce. Of course his championship for Pauline Hanson.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
It's going to be interesting, right Carl and jack Colin Jackie,
we've talked about a little bit on the program and
my suspicion is Murray that you didn't have a lot
of time for Kyle. But be that as it may,
you can't argue with their level of success over a
period of twenty something years. And once again two part
question does he come back do you think? And to

(01:18:38):
second part, do they have a case? Because what he
did I don't think is sackable.

Speaker 16 (01:18:46):
Well, I'm not a lawyer. He's called them in. He
wants eighty eight million dollars what's left on his one
hundred million dollar ten year contract. He's saying that he
was accused of what serious misconduct. But you're right, I mean,
compared to some of the stuff he's said and got
away with in the past, I mean hearing recordings of
people urinating and then asking listeners to guess who it

(01:19:06):
might have been. I mean, that's the quality that you're
talking about really, I mean what he said to her,
get your nose out of your phone. Stop looking at astrology.
I mean we've all said that to our partners, haven't
we stopped looking at study beam scrolling? So you know,
he has called the lawyers in. Apparently Jackie O is
quite happy to walk away, and you know, I guess

(01:19:29):
she's bank some money in terms of the time they've
been together. But apparently Sandalands was caught completely off guard
when she had the meltdown. What he said he didn't
think was particularly offensive. She found it to be terribly offensive.
And basically, Kyle's going to be arguing there was no
legal basis for him to get the flick and if

(01:19:50):
he is terminated, he wants his eighty eight million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Yeah, I think he's got a very good case. I'm
just not I just don't know whether he's going to
come back or not. I mean, he's got to come back.
You can't sue them knock, but you can't say stuff
you and I'm going to see you. He's got to
come back. And if he comes back, I don't I've
never really listened to the show. Enough is it him?
I mean, without her, So put somebody else in with him,
and somebody else. Does it work potentially?

Speaker 16 (01:20:13):
Still, it's look, it's hard to say, but you know,
you and I have both been around long enough to
know that on air chemistry is a funny thing. I mean,
if it works, it works, that's great. And you can't
just throw anyone in. A lot of TV types make
the switch from television and to radio thinking it's going
to be a piece of cake, and they just collapsed
behind the microphone. They haven't got anyone else. You know,

(01:20:34):
they're doing their hair, putting a makeup on, holding a
bloody purse, or they're you know, their their bottle of
Shardona while they do a piece of camera. I mean,
radio is hard work. Kyle and Jackie O made it
look pretty easy for a very long time. They hated
them down in Melbourne though, they called them violent, tacky

(01:20:54):
hoe down there, and they ondly rated well. They rate
it less than five percent down there. They did very
well in Sydney, and I think, secretly, maybe hand on heart,
their employees are saying, thanks Christ.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
I have no question I've gone.

Speaker 16 (01:21:06):
I'm not up for all that money. So will Kyle
go on his own? I'm not sure, but I've had
my people reach out to Jacinda's people and we're going
to pitch.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
A double act Murray and Justina to take it. Yeah,
I think held on Cindian muzz Oh wow, Cindy and
Muss Cindyan muzz in the morning. Here we go, Cindy
and muzz in the morning.

Speaker 16 (01:21:27):
Come on, that's fantastic. I love the sound of that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
It's not bad. You won't be going to the Australian Open,
but the not the Australian Open, the Grand Prix. But
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they come close
to the record is five hundred and twenty thousand, and
that's Silverstone and they put another grand stand in the Melbourne.
I wouldn't be surprised if they get dangerously close to them.

Speaker 16 (01:21:48):
Oh mate, there's a lot of excitement down there, A
huge amount of excitement down there, new cars, young Oscar
Piastri back home. Everyone says he was duded last year.
Have you got your general or primate come across to
watch the race?

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
A lot of people coming across. I got a mate
who runs Eston Martin and he was taking across. I
can't remember like forty or fifty people that book virtually
booking out a plane.

Speaker 16 (01:22:10):
Fantastic. But Aston Martin's had a lot of trouble coming
into this race. By goodness engines. You know, the Honda
engine hasn't worked that well for them. Apparently when they
put the hammer down, the whole shasty starts shake so
much sitting on the throw. But he driver out of
a cock.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
That's what That's what you get when you buy a
Honder engine. Mate, And I think I've probably told you
that before. Oh my goodness, nice to see you, mate.
You have a good weekend, Murray Olds. I didn't mean that, Honda.
Come on, just jokes. Don't walk out, don't sue me.
Murray Olds, Out of Australia, eight forty five.

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Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Mike Number. If you're texting this, I'm not sure people
are weird with facts, Morning Mike. Twelve June ninety oh two.
Australian women were granted the right to vote and stand
for election to the Australian Parliament. New Zealand First Grunder
the vote. Yeah, I know that, but that's not the point.
Carne didn't say Carne didn't say that. Carnee set in
the Australian Parliament. Australia was the first country in the
world to give women the vote. It simply isn't true.

(01:23:10):
Nineteen oh two is not eighteen ninety three, which is
when we did it. Sort of no point going yeah,
but Australia, I mean, it doesn't matter what Australia. I mean,
most women got the right to vote around the Western
world in some period of time too. We were the first.
The end Emirates are very good news. They're confirming this
morning they're operating reduced flight schedule until further notice. There's

(01:23:30):
a partial reopening of the regional airspace. I told you
this was going to happen. There is no way in
hell they are going to let this derail their plans.
Fifth and sixth of March, which is obviously to their time. Today,
over one hundred flights will depart from Dubai in return.
dB DXB Auckland scheduled to leave Dubai this morning at

(01:23:53):
ten oh five local time. Auckland. Dubai is scheduled tonight
departing Auckland at twenty one oh five to bide christ
Jurch via Sydney is also scheduled to depart du Buy
at ten fifteen local time. They'll continue to gradually build
back its flying schedule. So I'm very pleased to be
able to pass that information onto you. It just gives

(01:24:13):
I mean, even if you're not flying, it just gives
a sense that there are a lot of people working
awfully hard to get things back to some sort of normality.
Just checking out the F one schedule. So Australia, China
and Japan, and then we potentially run into trouble because
the tenth of April, which is not that far away,
is Bahrain. A week later is Saudi Arabia. Now I

(01:24:37):
was thinking about this in the early hours of this morning.
I do two things and when I get up at
two thirty in the morning, one sing to myself. And
if I'm not singing, I'm planning. And I was planning.
I was pretending I was the F one organizer, and
I'm thinking to myself, if April tenth and April seventeen
or a problem, what do I do. I came to
the conclusion that you simply have to cancel those two events,

(01:24:58):
because the moment you try to move them, you are
mucking everybody else up. If you cancel, you're mucking nobody
else up. You are losing two events. But war's war
if you start to reschedule and then you go. But
why don't you just make them at the back end
of the season. Possible, But the back end of the season,
it's a long season anyway you take. You're getting well
October November. I don't know that they can do it

(01:25:21):
in a place like Saudi Arabia and Bahrain would be
looking at you know, weather issues as well potentially, So
unless things settle down real quick, then April ten and
April seventeen are going to be.

Speaker 14 (01:25:33):
Say one in hand and downs to one in Hiland's
Park or that here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
See, that's the alternative, isn't it, Because you'd have to
go to somewhere you go, do you want to do two?
So if you're in Japan at Suzuka, do you want
to run two and we won't go on to Bahrain
or after saudis Miami, do you want to do two
in Japan and two in Miami.

Speaker 14 (01:25:55):
I'm just saying can we doublehead it?

Speaker 23 (01:25:56):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
But at that point I was out of the shower
drive here and I've had to go to work, So
I stopped planning eight minutes away from nine the Mike.

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that rumor is that the two of them are in
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if that romantic part is true, Corey, a word of warning,
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Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
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Speaker 22 (01:27:49):
America is the greatest country in the world, and it's
the greatest country in the world that has great cities
and great communities. Regardless of where people live. We need
to make sure that they have an opportunity to go
to work every day safely and to send her kids
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Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
Given we know what she knew and the audience didn't,
she sounds flat as a pancake. She's been replaced by
this blog. War is ugly, it smells bad.

Speaker 5 (01:28:11):
President Heigseth or say President Hess Secretary Hesa that has
got a great relationship with President Trump and President Heks
has been there, he's done that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
Yeah, he didn't call him. That called it a war. Raither, Well,
that was a mess boy, It was a miss spoke.
Unlike the folks in Nashville. He's heard the news about
his job.

Speaker 15 (01:28:28):
Lottle kid from Westvielkhoma gets serve in the President's cabinet.

Speaker 10 (01:28:32):
That's pretty neat.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
It's pretty neat. Nobody in the room master about it,
and so maybe glean was right. Maybe no one in
the room knew about it, which seems in this day
and age, unbelievable. Back Monday at six you enjoy that
weekend as always, Happy Days.

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