Full Show Podcast: 07 August 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
And Welcome Today, Luckstai, Yas Road on MMP, the labor
tenselation and business boost, Joe Parker's in the Ring of
the Studio for some sparring, Tim and Patty after right,
Richard Arnold and Murray Old's.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
They glove up as well, pasking.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome to the day. Seven past six is Luxon's MMP
voter stroke of genius to avoid an otherwise problematic Weekman
his apology for wrote a rule as a cluster the
molarification issues that haven't been resolved despite all the talk,
the corrections massages, the NB, the Treasury Louvins, the justice
cock up on the Harrison Bloke, the unemployment rate to
the upside. It all looked very bad news this week,
didn't it. But then out of nowhere, let's have a

(00:43):
look at the entire way whelect governments see it makes
sense to the extent we're going to vote for a
four year term anyway. But here's your trouble with revisiting MMP.
It's been too long between drinks. There's an entire generation
of voters, and I include our kids who've never known
anything else. Constitutional change needs to be debated when an
obvious issue has arisen, ie governments keep falling over and

(01:06):
we lack stability, or we've recently had the debate and
the ideas are still fresh in our minds. Neither scenario
is in play here, making it also problematic for the
first part of the posters is the Labour government of
twenty twenty through twenty twenty three. They were an FPP
government if you think about it, and an example of
why you were not in a million years let a
single party ever run anything ever again, good parties take

(01:29):
you good places. Adern and Hipkins blew the place up.
Is that result a result of FPP or a singular
example of incompetence? And do you want to run that risk? Obviously?
The counter is on the balance side of the equation.
Our small players have not provided to be well, not
proved to be wonderful representatives of the broad idea that
MMP brings wider representation. The representation they've brought is more

(01:52):
calamity and chaos than insight and brain power. I mean
the Marory parties imploded again. The Greens are insane, quite
possibly dangerous and not really green. Our New Zealand first
of racists and stirs. Having said that if we insist
on MMP overall this current government, the first full example
of the Art i E. Three parties in a full
arrangement has been executed pretty well. Sir Luxon comes off

(02:15):
a strange run up, given he's conducted it professionally and successfully.
If you want to run a book, let's run a book.
It was fifty eight percent for MMP last time, if
you remember, I reckon it to be even more this time.
And that's from a person who you know what. If
push came to shop, I'd probably just vote FPP.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Retributions flying this morning as the Senate Committee that hurt
Anthony Founci pleaded the Fifth one hundred and eleven times
and voted to hold them in contempt. Not surprisingly, it
was long party lines. The Dems.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
The goal was to wait for doctor Fauci to make
any kind of misstatement and then have a weaponized Department
of Justice file criminal charges for that new state meant
that would not have been covered by the pardon.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
The Republicans, This committee and the American people have a
right to know why doctor Fauchi's agency funded dangerous research
at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and what role he
played in approving and overseeing it. Documents tell only part
of the story.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Now, infantinose days turned as well. It looked like saying
sorry would see him hold his job. But you Wafer
have other writings. You Wafer have made it abundantly clear
that it has lost confidence in Johnny and Fantino's presidency.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
That position holds. Yesterday's announcement that.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
Some people employed by the fee for President and whose
careers depend on his favor agree with him changes nothing.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Then to Ukraine, yep. The lack of a deciptives means
that thessiles get through and you end up living underground.

Speaker 7 (03:53):
It's when you can hear something banging nearby that it
gets really frightening and you have to come down.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
You cannot break this name, and they should know in
Moscow whether no matter what they do, they will never
break the Ukrainian people. And then to Britain, where the
scourge of councils lives another day as places like Soho
in Westminster. Want to look at Banning's standing drinking.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah, I only know.

Speaker 7 (04:13):
I'm a trunk and I stand up after drinking too much.
So when you're standing the whole time, maybe it's easier.
The beauty of Soho and our pub. It's standing outside.
You'll ask your light from someone's son. You're getting to
know the persons on your best mates.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah whatever, anyway. I Finally, also in the UK, they
found that the scooter riders have three times more likely
or are three times more likely to suffer traumatic brain
injuries than motor cyclists. Brain injuries count for a third
of all injuries. It's like filments. Of course, women are
involved in the third more collisions than men. That's because
they can't drive up, of course. No, seriously, it's the

(04:48):
handlebars they sit at the right. Heartful men, that's sexist.
Why are there more excellents? Well, they think designed small wheels,
no traction, too many potholes, I reckon, it's because too
many of them are pissed the world in ninety Now.
The important thing about the Fauci vote is that will
allow them now to clear the way for the Committee
to refer this particular case to the Justice Department for
potential prosecution for failing to comply with the congressional subpoena.

(05:12):
So this one ain't over yet. Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
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Speaker 8 (05:22):
It be.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
From the Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister. This morning, joint statement
with Aman is coming, final stages of review and drafting
is about to be published. No fees, no tolls on
the strait. So I think I'm encouraged by that. Fifteen parts,
Sure and Partners. Andrew kellaher good Morning's very good morning.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Give me some good news.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
You've got some good news, Reach into your bucket of
good news and pull some out for me. We're going
to close the week out with this.

Speaker 9 (05:48):
So look, we talk a lot about the fon terrors
of the world, don't we, And we talk about red
meat and industry level, but we sort of forget that
the strength of export markets sort of touches a lot
of other companies as well. And we had a couple
of news reports announcements yesterday that sort of highlighted that
that sort of penetration into the wider New Zealand sort
of business world and economy. So looks say, we talked

(06:10):
about dairy, we talk about meat, but what about fish, Mike,
Let's talk about fish. We had an internet's announcement from
New Zealand King Salmon yesterday. So the name really gives
it away. Marine Salmon farming company. They run hatcheries, they
run bloodstock facilities.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
They've got a broodstock facility.

Speaker 9 (06:29):
Sorry, they've got sea farms down there in the Marlboro Sounds.
I've got a processing plant in Nelson and they sell
the beautiful king salmon all over the world. Yesterday they
issued an upgraded earnings guidance. Now, earnings are now expected
to be in the range of thirty to thirty four
million for the twenty six financial year, and I contrast
that with the previous guidance of excuse me, twenty three

(06:50):
to twenty nine million, So it's quite a significant upgrade. Now,
the upgrade has been driven by ongoing positive fish performance,
focus on operational performance. But the factor that really caught
my eye was they said that the global oil supply
oil supply chain challenge has had less of an impact
on the twenty six financial year than anticipated, and that

(07:12):
is becoming a bit of a common theme isn't it.
So we all thought this was going to be terrible.
It wasn't as bad as we thought. So we're seeing
that in inflation. So good news story.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
There, but that's not the end of it.

Speaker 9 (07:23):
We got another one.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I'm going to talk about red meat.

Speaker 9 (07:26):
Actually a company that might not be as well known
to listeners. It's called Ansco Foods, established in nineteen eighty four.

Speaker 10 (07:33):
Originally it was.

Speaker 9 (07:33):
The Asian New Zealand Meat Company, marketing New Zealand beef
and lamb and to Japan. So they owned by a
Japanese company now called Ittohan Your Neck You Holdings. They're
pretty big, over three thousand employees worldwide. They became the
full owner in twenty seventeen. They've just moved their balance day,
so these numbers are for fifteen months. But they've reported
earnings of one hundred and thirty three point five million

(07:56):
New Zealand dollars. So very profitable business, very much benefiting
from the strong demand for our meat protein. In June,
they announced an eight hundred million dollar deal to purchase
Greenley Group. Here, so yet another illustration of how those
strong sort of market conditions are impacting on New Zealand
business but clearly these guys are executing well at the
moment as well. So couple of good news stories in

(08:18):
that primary sector and that just doesn't seem to be
any end of them at the moment.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Now I like it.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Now, what about the Koreans?

Speaker 9 (08:24):
Let's talk about Yes, this is my global observation for
a Friday. This is the sort of roller coaster that's
been the semiconductor stocks at this AI trade that's been
playing out over this week, our last couple of weeks
as well as we've had Q two earnings and the
profound impact it's had on the Korean stock exchange, so
we've had volatility in the our company space and semiconductor stocks.

(08:44):
A few weeks ago, we talked about the wonderfully named
socks Index, the Philadelphia Exchange Semiconductor Index, and when AI
trade was its recent most feverish prep pitch and we
had rabid trading in semiconductor companies, that socks index basically
went up over one hundred percent between March and June,
so it was parabolic. It was a poster child for

(09:05):
irrational over exuberance. Unsurprisingly, it didn't last and now it's
down about twenty percent. Still showing it pretty I would say,
a pretty impressive for year to day performance, but very
much come off those highs. But a corollary of this
dramatic move was the equally dramatic move in the Korean
stock exchange. And I'm looking at the Cosby Index now,
Unfortunately about half of that index is made up of

(09:27):
just two companies, Samsum Electronics and sk Heinex. Now I'm
betting Mike that six month ago a lot of people
had never heard of sk Heynex. Then it went up
two hundred and sixty seven percent between March and June. Well,
it's given up two thirds of those games. Samsung was
the same, went up one hundred and twenty percent, given
up those games as well. So in the first half

(09:49):
of the year, basically the Cosby was the best performing
index in the world from a sort of regional stocking
etect and in the second half so far it's the worst.
So little bit of kind of hero out of zeros,
but the sort of a microcosm of the semiconductor sort
of roller coaster. But the final point I want to make, Mike,
is this AI fueled trade that's sort of sitting in
all behind us. It sort of swung from being a

(10:12):
tide that was lifting all boats to a theme now
with a little bit more inspection, investors, a bit more discerning.
Still a powerful force. It's not going away, but some
of the froth around the edges is just evaporating.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Good insign, give me some numbers.

Speaker 9 (10:27):
Yeah, So the market's just down a little bit. We
haven't quite got the good news out the out of
the middlest that we thought we were going to get.
But there's still time, and of course, what have we got.

Speaker 10 (10:34):
We've got a weekend coming up.

Speaker 9 (10:36):
We always get these announcements on the weekend.

Speaker 11 (10:38):
So dal Jones.

Speaker 9 (10:39):
Fifty three thousand, nine hundred and fifty seven down three
hundred and ninety points three quarters of percent, the S
and P five hundred down ten points, zero point one
four percent, seventy seven one two and the Nasdaq is
down well, it's up five points now points.

Speaker 10 (10:53):
Zero two percent.

Speaker 9 (10:54):
Twenty six thousand, three hundred and seventy The Foot two
one hundred lost point one nine percent overnight, ten thousand
and eight hundred sixty seven, the Nicke down point nine
three percent, sixty five thousand, six hundred and eighty three.
Shanka Compert up point five seven three nine zero zero
the mark there the Aussi's game just under half a
percent yesterday nine two seveny one we lost point two

(11:15):
eight percent, thirty nine points thirteen thousand, nine hundred and
fifty nine one key we doll that'll get you on
the wholesale markets point five eight seven to one US
put eight three four five Oussi point five h ninety
five Euro point four to three sixty two pounds ninety
two point nine eight Japanese yen gold four thousand, two
hundred and forty six thousand, Brent Cruit, it's just edged

(11:36):
up a bit eighty two dollars and twenty six cents.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
You have great weekend. Make Andrew kellerher Sure and partners Pascal.
Elf Beauty has got fifty million back in terif Ree funds.
The margins have grond by fourteen points. They've had a
very good result. It's got some I can't remember what
Hayley Bieber had to do with elf Beauty, but she
had something to do with that. She sold something or
bought something anyway. Restaurant brands. By the way, this is
the International division, not to be confused with the New

(12:01):
Zealand thing, which is separate. But anyway, restaurant brands very
very good.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Result.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Popeye's Louisiana Kitchen not very good. But Burger King, which
we know and love us business up eight and a
half percent, so they're loving those burgers. I'll come back.
By the way, I read a very interesting piece on
American beef, which is why we're doing so well. But
that's for later on the program A twenty two, No,
it's not six twenty two. Here at news Talks Edbo.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
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Speaker 2 (12:35):
You're into it, Mike, I don't know why the media
is so exercised by lux and wanting a referendum on MMP.
I'm fed up with MMP. Would love a referendum. NV
parties like Top and the Greens have no mandate, but
no MMP lets them slip into Parliament to bang their
personal drums of division. Mike Metcalfe is back. Martin ruled out.
What's your score prediction? You know what, I don't care
about the score. I'm not remotely interested in the score

(12:56):
at all. All I'm looking for is a victory. This
is the one for the season that can ounce, doesn't it.
You beat the Panthers, you beat anybody, and if you
beat anybody, this is our year.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
That's how that rolls six twenty five.

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Speaker 12 (13:21):
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Speaker 3 (13:32):
How good's that?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
So the announcement's been the most viewed college football the
off season for the offseason. So this is the first time.
As a result of this is the Akron who went
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design the drive. How cool will that be? First game?

(13:53):
September twelve. Networks are scrambling to see if they can
give that a better swat now. Yesterday, Labor, there was
lot of noise around their decision to small business right,
and you can offset goes from one to ten thousand dollars,
So you go out to spend two undred and fifty
seven dollars on something, you start writing it off. So
good tax policy, We like that fair enough. The part

(14:13):
I did like, by the way, is large businesses by
law having to pay small businesses within fifteen days. That's
a good move. But to do that, they've killed investment
boost So their policy is one and a half billion.
Investment boosts was six or seven, So where's the other
five gone?

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Labor?

Speaker 2 (14:35):
And why wasn't that picked up and run with yesterday? Anyway,
we'll have a look at the implications of all of that,
and in about an hour's time, Joseph Parker back in
the studio. He got some reasonably good news, but this
bit of a complicating factor around that. But you'll get
to explain that after seven thirty Memetime News is next.
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Speaker 3 (15:04):
There was quite the to do.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I mean there was Judge Janina earlier on this week
and Trump's offers. She survived just but apparently the word
is Hegseth had been misleading Trump as to how much
weaponry they're using and how much they got left in
the cupboard. Anyway, we'll get an update on that with
Richard Arnold shortly meantime. Back here at twenty three to seven,
we have moved from labor as they roll out the
small business policy. They're scrapping the investment boost plan to

(15:25):
pay for us, so it raises the instant asset right
off from on thy to ten thousand. Phil Wicks is
a small business New Zealand founder and director of BSP Advisory,
and he's with us. Phil, very good morning to you,
Good morning Mike. Are you very well? Indeed, thank you?
Aren't we robbing Peter to pay Paul here?

Speaker 11 (15:41):
Yeah, there is a little bit well, I think there's
some ambiguity around whether the changes to the investment boost
cover everything else that's been done, but there are some
genuinely useful ideas here as well. Yeah, getting businesses paid
fast is a good idea. The GST lifting the GST
threshold old should probably should have been done a long

(16:02):
time ago. And it's pretty similar to what's in Australia,
I think. And I think that's that's definitely a good idea,
and the equipment purchases are being easy to deduct or
now there are three well I think three practical measures.
It's just whether the changes to the investment investment boost
actually creates a larger lots elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, precisely. That was my point that no one argues that,
you know, making business easier to do is is a
good thing? That's fifteen days? Is that in law doable?
I mean, is there any reason why that wouldn't be
the case anyway?

Speaker 11 (16:40):
I mean you'd be surprised at the amount of large
corporates that take a long time to pay small businesses,
you know, well known corporates, and it's like they use
them as banks sometimes. So the idea is good the
fifty having it compulsory fifteen days I think would be Yeah.
I think having a blanket compulsory rule is probably not

(17:02):
so good. I think there needs to be some thought
around that so that the idea is good and probably needed,
But you know, different industries have different payment cycles, for example,
so I'm not sure just having a blanket compulsory fifteen
day payment rule would actually work.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
The business of being able to write stuff off. Will
you guys see, because one of the criticisms of National's
policy or the current government's policy is that the spending
wasn't quite there. But maybe that's it bigger. You know,
do you buy maybe I do, maybe I don't. If
it's a bit of a small equipment, do people buy more?
And if they buy more, do they do more? In
other words, does it help the economy?

Speaker 11 (17:40):
Yes, I think it's can sometimes make decisions that they
wouldn't make, they'll make them faster. So as a result,
you know, a juinary business might want a new edgebend
or something like that, and they may be delaying that purchase,
but something like this can make that purchase come sooner
so they become you know, more efficient. So from that

(18:02):
point of view, it's good. But it's not a you know,
it's an earlier tax production, so it's a limited value
to a business that's not currently making a taxable profit.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, exactly. So Hipkins yesterday said, you know, an executive
buying a BMW doesn't help the economy. One is that true?
And two is that sort of the petty envy nonsense.
We need to move past.

Speaker 11 (18:23):
It's a petty envy nonsense. We need to move past.
It's it's irrelevant exactly.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
But having said that, we don't know, and this is
what we need to get clear, don't we. So I
if the top stuff, all the biggest stuff under the
current government has gone, then this is not necessarily a
good policy. If they've done this, along with the ability
of larger business to write stuff off, then we've got
a net gain, haven't we.

Speaker 11 (18:51):
Yes, exactly right, And that to me, that's the question
without looking deeper into it is you know, as you
just robbing Peter to pay for now the like. Like
I said, the three key things are really good, you know,
the tax right off, the getting businesses paid earlier, and

(19:14):
the gs, especially the GST one because that also helps
you know, high promising startups. And to remember that at
the current level, that's not profit, that's just turnover, so
there's a very limited profit being made when businesses are
at that level.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
All right, I appreciate it very much. Phil Wicks, who's
the small business and New Zeeland found a director of
BSP Advisory. Well, I couldn't work out when I read
when I read the story yesterday it said labor are
silent on the the bigger write offs of the bigger businesses,
and why didn't somebody ask them saying why are you silent?
And what actually happens. My suspicion, of course, is they've
killed it. They'll take the money. It's six six and

(19:50):
a half billion from memory, right, this is one and
a half billion, So they're banking five. What are they
doing with the five? I think that's the question we
need to ask nineteen to two.

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Speaker 2 (21:06):
Good week for movies. These Spider Man movies busted through
a billion. So the class of twenty twenty six so
far Super Mario, Lionsgates, Michael and Toy Story five. Highest
number of billion dollar film releases in a single year
since COVID so looks likely back six forty five.

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Speaker 2 (21:29):
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for a deal.

Speaker 13 (21:34):
Well, it's always the same question and the same uncertain answer,
isn't it.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
But the other.

Speaker 13 (21:39):
Issue today is whether the war is leading to US
missile shortages or not. Outlets including Reuters and Sianana reporting
that some munitions stocks are running quote unquote dangerously low.
The Washington Post is running a lead story today headline
Trump and Hegseth clashed over munitions shortages affecting around war strategy.
It's alleged that Rump confronted his Defense secretary at the

(22:02):
Camp David retreat this past weekend, demanding to know why
he had been misled on this issue. Heigseth is said
to have blamed his deputy, Stephen Feinberg, for the shortages
and for failing to make the President.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Aware of things.

Speaker 13 (22:15):
The effected weapons are reported to include the Army surface
to surface missiles known as Attackers, while CNN says the
Pentagon has exhausted nearly eighty percent of their SAD missiles
designed to shoot incoming missiles out of the sky. Of course,
we've seen this war playing out in new ways, haven't we.
Hugely expensive missiles being used to shoot down tiny drones
that cost.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Relatively very little.

Speaker 13 (22:37):
HeiG Seth recently called on US lawmakers, as you know,
lawmakers who never had a vote on going into this
war or not till prove sixty seven billion dollars US
in extra defense spending and thirty seven point five billion
already having been spent, he said. Others claim the true
cost of the war is much much higher, perhaps one
hundred and fifty one billion as a figure I've seen.

(22:57):
Trump now has lashed out on his social media, calling
these reports fake news quote and saying an early morning
post that the US has massive amounts of munitions, but
he says that additionally, quote, large amounts are being manufactured
and shipped to the US as needed in quote ship
from where.

Speaker 14 (23:15):
He doesn't say.

Speaker 13 (23:16):
Trump's press ade Karen Levitt says the story of a
row with excess is a quote BS story. Trump posts
that the leakers of treasonous statements are being hunted down,
long term jail sentences will be sought, he adds Iran
and Aman are said to be close to a framework
for reopening the Strait of Hormuz. The US not directly
involved in that effort, and Taran says any agreement would

(23:38):
not automatically reopen the oil channel. There is no word
on whether it would go back to being a free
passage international route as it was before the US Australia attacks. Meantime,
there are new questions about that four hundred million dollars
jet donated by Cutter to Trump for use as his
interim Air Force one. The US government course spent millions
of dollars upgrading facilities on the Cuttery jet, although it's

(24:01):
still lacked some of the high tech defenses of an
actual Air Force one presidential plane. When this unprecedented gift
first was announced by Trump, he said he would never
keep it for personal use. It would go to his
presidential library, just as there is an old jet at
the Reagan Library, and seem Valley said, Trump, had you
plan to.

Speaker 10 (24:19):
Use the plane?

Speaker 15 (24:21):
No, I don't know it would It would go directly
to the library after after I leave office.

Speaker 16 (24:26):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 10 (24:26):
I wouldn't be.

Speaker 13 (24:27):
Using it, wouldn't be using it as personal transport. No, no, no,
I wouldn't even think of it. Well, today, the American
ABC network reports that quote, no final decision has been made,
and Trump's son Eric tells NBC it is not the
plan for the countery jet to be delivered to the
Trump Library.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
All right, talk to me about faut She did the
DOJ get involved?

Speaker 13 (24:45):
Now, well that's the question.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
Now.

Speaker 13 (24:48):
There was a party line vote a Senate panel Homeland
Security agreed to hold the former Trump aid and had
scientists at the Infectious Diseases Institute for years, years and
years in contempt of the Congress. That for Fauchi refusing
to testify. It that shambolic hearing this week where Fauchi,
who has spoken to lawmakers some two hundred times through

(25:08):
his career and various testimony, refused to play along with
Senator rand Paul, who says he wants to put Fauci
in jail. Basically, now, typically this would move on next
to the full Senate, but rand Paul says they'll bypass
that give it directly to Trump's and battles Acting Attorney
General Todd Blanche.

Speaker 17 (25:26):
So now have to go to the House, doesn't have
to be signed by the President, and really doesn't have
to go before the Senate. There are some precedent for
doing it that way, and it's still may be done
that way, but for now we will hand carry this
over to the Attorney General.

Speaker 13 (25:39):
Yeah, there are some legal disputes over whether that can
be done because Fauchi was pardoned by Biden and for
everything from his past, so is he vulnerable for refusing
to testify. Now they'll go to court at great legal
and personal costs, obviously, But at the core is COVID
and what the heck happened. We still don't know exactly
how the pandemic began. Was it a deliberate leak from
the lab or an accidents in something less intentional. How

(26:03):
many Americans died? The World Health Organization says around one
point two four million. Others say since many were elderly,
they were going to die anyway. How many lives were
saved by speeding up work on the vaccine and on
paxlova the COVID mid some say millions. At the same time,
businesses obviously were shut down, schools shut at enormous cost
of the kids and everybody else. While Trump was talking

(26:23):
about maybe swallowing bleach or iver mecdin. There is still
a lot of debate about all of that. But Fauci, well,
he expedited the AIDS treatment back in the day, did
similar things for COVID, as did Trump. Fast tracking the vaccine. So,
despite all the mistakes and confusion, should Fauci be in
jail or was he a hero? And should we trust

(26:45):
that a divided US Senate panel of thirteen people should
tell us?

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Or I might have a good week in Richard Arnold
stateside nunder.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Seven the like Hosking breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities
news dogs head been.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Just before we leave America, I knowe that a Republican
representative Ted lu said that the AI kill switch needs
to be passed this year. This is the bill they
talk I told you about it the other day. They
want to kill switch bill. I have no idea whether
a kill switch bill on AI given AI as we
found out from several companies this week, and reinvents itself
and speaks new languages and basically lies to you. I'm

(27:17):
not sure that a kill switch enacted by Washington is
going to make one shot of different.

Speaker 6 (27:23):
Well, presumably you just sort of turned off all the
power everywhere.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Guess literally, if we spend the rest of our lives
in the black, then maybe we'll have solved a problem.
Five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 18 (27:35):
B, the ins and the ouse, it's the fizz on
the Mike Husking Breakfast Now EV News from Ford thirty
three billion dollar in restructuring charges because they had to
switch away from the EV market after realizing they put
too much money into the EV market.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Just the thirty three billion, but we've still got the
first offering from the EV department as part of the
quote unquote Universal Electric Vehicle Platform. They've called it the Fat,
the Ford Fathom. It's a mid size EV truck starts
at forty eight grand. That's New Zealand money plus delivery,
so it's pretty good. They're trying to do something that
competes with China and Tesla. So the plan for the

(28:14):
Fathom and any model after that is it's got to
be profitable within the year of launch. So the great
hope is this is the first model to be sort
of turn around the billions and losses.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
So far.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
They dream of break even from that model a unit
by twenty twenty nine. No one knows what the Fathom
looks like. So they've just announced that they've got a
thing called a Fathom and it's a mid size EV.
But if you want a pre order one, so surely
the question would be, why would you pre order something
you haven't seen. That's a new loaf for the mean.

(28:44):
At least a lot of people pre order flash cars
on a picture, but they don't pre order stuff they've
literally never seen. But if you pre order one of
these at the start of next year, you'll get it
by the end of next year. Anyway, why they call
it the fathom, that's the real question. Isn't that process,
by the way, which might be an insight into why
Ford ain't what they used to be.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
That particular process took.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Nine months what naming it? No, deciding what to name it.
So they had a meeting, and they had another meeting,
and then they brought the whiteboard in and as I
said to Sammy this morning, what you need to do?
And I did it this week for a little thing
I'm working on. I chat gbt' did or clauded it
or whatever we did, I can't remember. And it came

(29:29):
up with about twenty ten of which you thought, no,
I could have come up with that, that's none. Event
three of them were brilliant, like exceptional. I would if
I worked for Ford, I would have clauded it and
I would have give me a name for a mid
sized suvn It would have wouldn't have come up with
fathom anyway. The sixth letter word captured the years of
research spent understanding the target buyer's daily routine and financial

(29:53):
luxon and MMP. More shortly, the.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
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Speaker 2 (30:15):
There'd be welling seven past seven. So how about old
Luckso I having had a hellish week on the apology front,
from the road to rue routing, he goes and ends
the week by pulling the old MMP rabbit out of
the hatt and set to Wellington and like Peter dunnpolitical commentator,
as with us, Peter, good morning, Good morning, Mike. Do
you reckon? This was deliberate and frustration or he just
got a bit loose on the old talkback A.

Speaker 11 (30:33):
Bit of both.

Speaker 10 (30:33):
Really.

Speaker 11 (30:34):
I think he is frustrated with the way things have
gone over the last three years. I think he thought
he'd be managing a very strong national led coalition with
New Zealand first, and that being bit players it hasn't
quite worked out that way, so he's frustrated at that,
and I think just sort of slipped out as one
of those off the top of the head ideas that
he'd been mulling around for some time.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Could you argue that, given we're allegedly going to vote
for a three or four year term anyway, why not
tag this on the end and it's actually no big deal.

Speaker 11 (31:00):
Well, you could argue that, But if you were going
to argue that, I would have thought you'd have made
that argument at the time that you announced you're having
the referendum on the four year term. I'm clearly to
the fact that this court, everyone, including his own team,
by a measure of surprise, suggests that it wasn't part
of that original plan.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Is this a leadership issue for him? Given he started
the week with the problem he ends the week. If
you accept your argument with a problem, I think.

Speaker 11 (31:23):
What it confirms in a lot of people's minds is
that there's not a clear pattern of leadership there that he,
you know, the loose lips thing on last week. This
week we had the parent ruling out of the Opportunity
Party without consultation with the party of the week before, it.

Speaker 16 (31:39):
Looks like.

Speaker 11 (31:42):
There's not so much a problem. It seems to seem
to sort of blurt out and then we sort of
mop up afterwards.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
What about the see I might disagree with you on
this as well. I would argue broadly that they've run
the coalition. Well, this is the first example three parties.
You know what Peters is going to do. I mean overall, well,
it's not the end of the world, does it, And
this was.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
To be expected.

Speaker 11 (32:04):
Look, I think they have run the coalition well. I
think the fact that it's achieved when you look at
the record quite a lot. But I think for Luxon's mind,
what he thought he was going to be leading was,
as I say, a big in national government supported by others,
not a three way coalition, even though they signed up
to that deal. And I think what we're seeing is
his frustration that hasn't quite worked out as he intended,

(32:26):
even though I think that, as you said, there are
runs on the board bow they can certainly crow about
at election time. But I think that's the frustration. But
having said that, you don't say, well, it hasn't quite
worked out as I wanted, So let's just change the
whole system.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Let's play a game just for the sake of it.

Speaker 11 (32:43):
On.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Let's say we vote tomorrow on three or four years
and MMP I would argue, we won't go for four,
and we won't go for FPP.

Speaker 11 (32:51):
You say what I'd say, We'd go for four, but
we won't change the electoral system because he doesn't even
seen where he wants to change it to. So I
think end up with four, but not a change for
the electoral system.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Always a great pleasure. Peter go well, Peter Dunn, political
commentator for a United Future leader. Of course, ten minutes
past seven, Foscar's going on with our gold visa road
shows in West New Zealand, scrapt its offshore roadshows, cut
it to US and European based staff. Despite seemingly this
visa program being a hit, it's detracted one point four
billion in investment and counting trade minutes the top McClay back,
well this morning to.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
You, hey, Mike, come on, who makes this call?

Speaker 2 (33:25):
What's going on here?

Speaker 8 (33:26):
So the Board and invest New Zealand is SALVES are
an autonomous agency, but they haven't scrapped the road shows.
They've just done a bit of analysis and decided the
four people that had working overseas, they could service it
much better in a different way. There will still be
road shows. In fact, in the US we're seeing great
numbers of AIP VISA applicants coming from there. Very few

(33:49):
of them come through the workshops, it seems. So what
they're going to do is work with New Zealand Training
Enterprize who have more officers over there, and they're starting
to have a dedicated, experienced team in New Zealand will
go out and do much more of the work from there.
So it reduces cost a bit, but I mean it
means they can sort of recycle the money and apply
it more beneficially.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
So you're learning as you go. In other words, you're
just refining what you offer.

Speaker 8 (34:12):
Yeah, that's exactly right. So, I mean the people that
were doing the job in the US probably we're doing
a very good job. Don't know them personally, but you know,
the cost was possibly ten percent of invest New Zealand's budget.
We can use that much much better. We're not going
to have a big team of people all over the
world and flash officers. We're going to have a dedicated
team here who get on a plane and go out

(34:34):
and meet investors and you know, bring them back here
for the deals. You know, very very focused, very experienced
people in the AIP though these golden visas, so they
are working well as more than two billion dollars committed
at starting to come through. We're also refining that to
make sure it works well. But we're just not convinced
that we need people sitting over there. Occasionally somebody pops

(34:55):
into the office and says, get a visa for New y.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
It's some of the reading I've been doing. There was
a criticism for a while while that these road shows
were spooking the same companies, the same investment opportunities. Was
there an element of truth to that? And are there
people that you could invest in here that weren't getting
the fair suck of the SAMs so to speak?

Speaker 8 (35:12):
Yeah, it probably is correct. You're going to remember Invest
New Zealand has formerly been set up less than a year,
so they inherited a lot of this from what was
there previously New Zealand Trade and Enterprise was running it.

Speaker 10 (35:23):
So you know, we have in Robert Wall who is.

Speaker 8 (35:26):
The CEO of Invest New Zealand, somebody is one of
the most experienced investment experts in New Zealand. He spent
most of his time overseas, so he's bringing quite a
different focus to it. Ultimately, though, we're of the view
that the private sector is doing most of this work.
You know, you've got law firms and investment firms that
are going out there. They're talking to their own clients,
they are attracting and they're directing. And we certainly want

(35:48):
to promote New Zealand and put our best foot forward.
But it was very clear when we set up invest
New Zealand we're not going to replicate or do what
the private sector does. We shouldn't be doing that. We
shouldn't be taking jobs off them. We're adding value you
and allowing things to go faster.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
While I got you Luxton yesterday off Peace. What's he doing?
What's going on here?

Speaker 8 (36:06):
Well, I don't agree.

Speaker 10 (36:08):
I think it's a very good idea.

Speaker 8 (36:09):
There's no harm in having a conversation about an electoral
system and prime ministers are allowed to raise these things.
You know what it does make It focuses of mind
on New Zealand voters, on the harm that some of
the little parties, particularly those ones on the left, that
are going to tax us a whole lot more we'll
do to New Zealand. So so we shouldn't be afraid
of a debate about democracy. Number one and number two
you know what, are sitting on the left, and Chris

(36:30):
Luxin and Christopher sorry Hipkins, who's sitting there quietly, is
going to tax the living hell out of New Zealanders.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Nice talk to you. Have a good weekend, Tom McLay,
the Trade Minister. Thirteen minutes past seven, Paskar Old Ryan
was exercised this morning. I'm saying, bloody hell, calm down,
I mean, And as for Peters, what a hypocrite, what
a fantastic hypocrite. It's a power grab. No one, no
one bangs on more about the value and role of democracy.

(36:56):
I'm not telling you what we're going to do until
after the people have spoken. How many times you at
that line. He loves democracy, he loves you having a vote,
he loves the power of the vote. And all of
a sudden, it's powergrab, is it? What a pile of crap?
And that's before I get to Simon Bridges, who I
am not happy with this morning. Simon Bridge is writing
in the Simon, He's writing in the Herald this morning
about the Luxon Rotaru of Debarcle and you go, sorry,

(37:19):
Mike Costing, Sorry Mike Costing, but it's tough in the
land of small medium sized business and the enterprises. You're
out of touch if you think otherwise. Well I'm not
out of touch because I don't think otherwise, and he's
completely misrepresented my view, and my view was that people
have got to stop moaning. And that's all I said.
Good on Luxembertellion is stop moaning. No no one says
it's not tough out there, and I only think even

(37:40):
the Prime Minister said that anyway. I'm I jest. Of
course I love Simon, always will. But if you want
to hear or read something slightly more comprehensive and slightly
more aligned with my thinking, which I would thoroughly recommend
as opposed to Simon Bridges, read Sam Stubbs piece and
stuff this morning.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
That's a that's a far better article.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Fifteen past seven News Talks every seventeen past seven Joseph
Park from the studio in a couple of minutes time.
New developments on that story, by the way, just coming
out of the UK Anti Doping Authority. So our first
chance to be able to talk to him about that. Meantime.
Eight match South Africa Tour kicks off this weekend, All
black Side and All black Side takes on the Stormers.
Aman Elliot Smith's there, Elliott, how are you feeling, Mike.

Speaker 19 (38:19):
I'm frilling good.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Good.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
They sorted that ticket issue. I'm reading there were thousands
of tickets. Let what's going on there?

Speaker 19 (38:25):
I think they might have overpriced the opening game of
the series, so look, they'll get a few more in
because the word's gone out that obviously it hasn't been full,
and perhaps some people thought it might have already sold out,
but probably wouldn't be a great look if they have
a huge amount of empty seats for this opening game.
I think the word on the street here is that
they've overpriced tickets for the tour games top dollar obviously

(38:49):
for the test matches, but maybe they've clipped the ticket
a little bit too much on these early games in
the series for what fans can afford.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
This wider squad, how many in there? Genuinely if they
play well, have a chance to make the big dance.

Speaker 19 (39:03):
Handful. I would say toy, Plotto, Fabi and Holland are
probably in the conversation to have a role in the
first test. There are other players that are probably playing
for bench spots in all honesty, a Peter Lukeye potentially
and Anton Signa who's coming overnight due to illness. So
I think few and far between. Dave Rennie is pretty
much locked in that team for the first test in

(39:25):
a couple of weeks time. But look, he's been open
that there is room to move and performances do count,
and they'll want to get some of these players just
get in game time more than anything, because four weeks
in a row against South Africa, I don't think you
can roll out your top team in each of those
tests weeks. So they will have to go into the
well and dig it a little deeper into the squad

(39:45):
at some point over the serial this.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Game, there's another one against the Hollywood BT Sharks. The
marketing department need to think about that. But anyway, be
that as it may, So what's the thing behind waiting
so long for a test? They just want to acclimatize
and build themselves up into it.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, very much.

Speaker 19 (40:00):
The Lions to a British Irish Lions too. You play
some of the you know the franchises or the local sides,
and you build a little hype for the series, and
you get a bit of game time under your belt
as well, and you can mix and match combinations. Bill
Blacks will play close to the test team, I believe
against the Sharks on Wednesday morning. Then they'll probably revert
to similar players to what we're seeing tomorrow morning for

(40:20):
that Bulls game. And then you've got all your cards
on the table for that first match.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
All right, fantastic test rather all right, mate, stay well
and we'll catch up maybe next week. See how we go,
Elliott Smith. We always review the tapes, check the performance,
and it was good. We'll get them back next week.
But I vote yes. Sam normally votes to know, but
I vote yes. Let's get mark the week in a moment.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Seven the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on a
heart radio car it lay News Talks, Eppy.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
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myself already at seven twenty three. Time now to mark
the week little piece of news and current of incidents
as welcome as the full time whistle. Tonight at Mount
Smart after a comprehensive panthers paddling our spending seven. Yes,

(41:55):
numbers appear to defire the move we moan, and yet
we spend. Maybe our mood needs attention jobs for that
was the other side of the story, and number to
the upside, dense and already fragile confidence. Of course, then
we got the earthquake six. I mean, when you get
a solid one, which we did, why do we then
for the next week cover every single shakee given we've
got about fifty a day anyway, all the time. The

(42:16):
comm game six.

Speaker 7 (42:17):
And running away with it and harms it's.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Going to take it now seems a success, but it
also seemed an open question as to its need or
real interest. But Netball gold eight.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
A Golden Deities Venew Zealand from Contenders to Cherfian.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
The story of the games and Vanolina gargantuan middle finger
to the falls who ran the sport and did the
what they did to dairy auction six welcome stabilization to
what might have otherwise been a tree in the wrong way.
Money six, Well for deposits anyway, there are of course
more depositors than there are borrowers. But all the banks
move this week, and therefore upping interest rates work both ways.

(42:53):
Of course, harmas six. Assuming it actually happens, that's quite
the win this week. The Strake too, I know what
the hell I'm doing, said we sent to be there
or thereabouts again this morning. Trump has got to be
losing sleep over this. I mean, this is a gargantuan
humiligation forum. Surely car sales seven, I mean, back to
the economy. How come have we so glum? We buy

(43:15):
so many new cars? New car sales are rocketing. Creditory
is seven. I mean yet another upbeat reading fewer and
fewer are behind on bills, and that presumably is after
we buy a new car Spain, for I mean, trouble
with being a socialists like Sanchez is when they invade
your place. Sticking them on a boater on an island
isn't really part of your manifesto, is it? Speaking of socialists,
Al said seven.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Listen, man, if you can't say the name is Abderrahman,
keep the name out your damn mouth.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Some call it an earthquake. Are picking them within a
party is one thing? Of course, winning the Senate that's
the real test. So let's wait and see how that goes.
Election enrollments eight. I mean change the rules as they did,
queue the mowners until the facts get published as they
did this week, and what do you know, more people
enrolled than in the past three elections. Not actually a
problem at all, then proving it again. Attitude is everything

(44:01):
and that's the week copies on the website in TY
three hundred and forty five of these have been distributed
this week by the All Blacks and South African schools,
where the kids gave a resounding chorus of leka, asking Mike,
like your eyes disappointed and I'm being polite with Simon Bridges.
Plus he called your hosk like your besties not cool. Seriously,
all this stirring and anti luxen stick to boot will

(44:21):
only hurt New Zealand in the long run. Mike, I've
been in the UK for the past six week. Come
back and expose to the small, myopic media and naval
gazing political as well. There's to and fro. There's a
big world out there and we need to lift our
head and get on with it.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
In that I could not.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Agree that's a reason to go overseas as I did
a couple of months ago, and everybody says the same things.
Once you get out into the world, you realize what
a bloody tiny little place so obsessed with. I mean
this weather thing this week, I know being on it,
but it's just like honestly, when it's cold, we think
it's news. That's how small and insignificant this country is. Mike,
you got to say, if the Wires beat the Panthers tonight,

(44:58):
you must be thinking about booking a ticket. Well, let's
get across that hurdle. Last time, was it twenty eighteen?
I'm going on memory. I think it was twenty eighteen.
We lost, So if we did that again tonight, I'd
be disappointed, but not suicidal. But a wind changes everything.
A win means we're ready to rock and roll to
the big dance. So I think you'd probably right. A
ticket could well be in order us in a couple

(45:18):
of moments. And then let's get into this Joseph Parker business.
We've got two boxing stories, one the Joseph Parker's story
and the other one the neakst story this weekend more
in a moment after the news.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Witch's next, the newsmakers and the personalities, the big names
talk to Mike the mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate,
your local experts with national and global reach US talks
head be.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Twenty three minutes the way.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
We from a good week for Joseph Parker as he
got the all clear to fight again. The provisional suspension
has been lifted. Still some questions to be answered, and
I think we can answer them probably this morning. Joseph
Parker is with us. Good to see you, mate.

Speaker 10 (45:53):
Good morning, Good morning, very.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
I can't tell you.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
As a person who loves you and a big fan
of yours, I can't tell you. And I assume this
is applicable to lots of people all over the world.
What the news did when it came through, and I thought,
how's that possible? And fortunately it sort of wasn't was it?
And it's worked out?

Speaker 10 (46:13):
Okay, Listen, like when the news first came out, shocked, surprised,
how did this happen? But now that the listen, we've
cleared from this case. Now obviously I've been it's been
just hovering over me for the last nearly a year.
So now that the news is out there were cleared,
I am over the moon, happy, delighted, and I can't

(46:35):
wait to get back into the ring. And fight again.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Good, we'll we'll talk about finding it just a moment
so that the UK Antidoping Authority has said overnight it's
the nutritionist or was the nutritionist, and it was he's
got will you tell us?

Speaker 10 (46:49):
You tell us the story, like the nutritionists is one
of the best in the world. And he made a
big change in my career when we linked up and
we were together three years. And I feel like withf
the camp that we had, he probably had a few
issues that was going through and probably contaminated my food

(47:10):
or drink or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
So he was a drug user basically.

Speaker 10 (47:14):
Not in the beginning, towards the end.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yeah, And so you saw trouble within the camp.

Speaker 10 (47:20):
I saw that on pole and I listened advised him
to stop and advise listen, we need to get this fight.
Everyone needs to be serious and on point because this
fight games is it's not a joke.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Right when you got pined, which you did get pinged,
what did you think, I mean, apart from the surprise
in the shock, I mean, you can't have seen that coming,
given you you're not a drug user.

Speaker 10 (47:41):
Just listen, they told us, and I looked at my
wife and I said how tears. No, it was I
was emotional because I've been final for thirteen years, never
failed a drug test, and then all of a sudden,
this happens.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Did you know what had happened or suspect what had happened?

Speaker 10 (47:58):
I had no idea.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
When did you find out or how did you find out?

Speaker 10 (48:04):
I was talking to a lot of the team in camp,
and that's how I found out that this stuff was happening.
But before that, just like I said, sharp surprised and
didn't really know what to say.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Yeah, so which led you to from memory, you've issued
that statement saying it's not me. I'll be cleared eventually,
so that then the wheels start to turn. There's nothing
you can do about the timeline.

Speaker 10 (48:27):
There is absolutely enohing you can do. You can only
be patient and just wait for things to take care
of itself.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Did everyone believe you within your group?

Speaker 10 (48:38):
Everyone in my group believe me, But I listened to
public and everyone else had their own opinions.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah, was that tough?

Speaker 10 (48:46):
It was tough at first, but then I you know,
I realized that as long as I have the people
around me or close to me that believe in me,
and I believe in myself, and I believe I didn't
do anything wrong, and that's fine. I'm happy.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
When did you know so this news came out earlier
this week and this stuff we just talked about with
the nutritionists came out overnight. When did you know that
something was going to go your way by way of
a decision. I always knew, No, I know you, but
officially when did When did they tell you that, look
this this, we can prove this, or it will work

(49:20):
out okay for you?

Speaker 10 (49:22):
They taught us three weeks ago, they taught us right,
We're been since the fight or since the drug results
came out. We've just been going back and forth with
lawyers and you can and just trying to kill the case.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, well, what do you can't do anything?

Speaker 10 (49:39):
You listen to this out of my control. You can't
do You can't do nothing right.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
The bloke who let you down is obviously gone now,
and you know, we don't want to dwell on these problems,
whatever they may be. Is there anything you could have
done to avoid that? Because you hire these guys so
so the decision was iron was on you, but you
didn't know.

Speaker 10 (49:59):
I had no idea. Like everyone in the team brings
the best and he is the best. And then also
everyone and life have issues that they go through, you know,
So I'm just happy that he's getting to help their needs.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Has he Have you talked to him during that whole process?

Speaker 10 (50:14):
Yeah, I talked to him a lot. He's still good friends.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Seriously, how's he handled it with you?

Speaker 10 (50:21):
He he wanted to do everything that he could to make.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
It right, right, So, and do you forgive him for that?

Speaker 10 (50:29):
I forgive himless. Everyone makes mistakes. It was it was
a big mistake, and it costs me a lot, and
it cost me time out of the ring, opportunity looking
after my family. But it also gave me time to
spend more time here at home.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Yeah. But in the meantime, until you wait, you know
in your heart of hearts, you're going to be cleared.
But until you are cleared, you can't fight.

Speaker 10 (50:51):
Can't fight. No, you can train, yeah, but you can't fight.
And for me and well, as a fighter, when you train,
you want to fight. Yeah, And I'm happy that's clear
now because I do want to fight sooner.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
So you're not resentful in any way that this has
happened to you.

Speaker 10 (51:07):
That's all part of the journey. Journey continues. It makes
the journey goes us up and down, up and down,
up and down.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Wow, So are you fit and ready to go?

Speaker 10 (51:17):
I'm fit now, and give me a few weeks and
I'm ready to go. Right.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
So where are we at with the fight? What do
you need? But who's next? Are you looking at?

Speaker 10 (51:28):
David? David?

Speaker 2 (51:29):
David's the man.

Speaker 10 (51:30):
The man.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
David Higgins, your promoter is the man. He's got a
few things in the fire.

Speaker 10 (51:34):
David, my manager, is talking to a lot of the
promoters and trying to get the best deal. And I've
said to David, just locked me in the fight with anyone.
I don't care what I'll fight anyone.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
He says. A couple of fights maybe before the end
of the year. Is that possible?

Speaker 10 (51:47):
Probably one or two fights beople at the end of
the year, and then carry on for a bit more and.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Then you're off and running. So where are you at
in terms of the whole business of getting to a
title shot if that's still your I mean, how many
fights off that are you? Potentially?

Speaker 10 (52:03):
Before the last fight, We're so close. But now that
we've been cleared, I feel like it won't take too long.
Two or three fights, and you're back fighting for a
world title.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
And you reckon you can come back and give them
the gap and all of that and the training and
the fitness so far, so Duboir Wardley, You'd look at
the You'd look at whoever wins out of that.

Speaker 10 (52:21):
If I can get that fight between now the winner
of the buy and Wordley for the championship of the world,
that'll be next level. That'll be an amazing opportunity.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
You will you be seen or treated differently within the
boxing community through David and promotions and getting fights and
stuff like that. All people see this for what it is,
and you're clean, clear and good to go.

Speaker 10 (52:40):
I think most people in boxing will see see it
how it is or see it for what it is. Yeah,
and I do have a good reputation in boxing just
because of how we've present ourselves.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Yeah, okay, so that's the next one. While I've got you,
I'll get to David nic Nicer in just a couple
of moments. As far as Joshua the other day when
I was watching that fight, So for people who didn't
watch it, Joshua comes out, gets knocked down, gets knocked
down twice, gets back up, smacks the other guy. So
two part question how does that happen? And two that

(53:12):
other guy? Is he any good? The Albanian?

Speaker 10 (53:16):
I thank the Albanian guy was picked for Joshua to
look good against whoops, that's what I feel, and for
his comeback fight. But with Joshua being dropped twice, it's
just shows that you have to be wary and you
have to be careful for every second of every man,
of every round. You can't let your guy down.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
But is that were you impressed by the fact he
got knocked over twice but he came back up.

Speaker 10 (53:39):
That's impressive because a lot of the guys will get
knocked over twice and then that's it. They're gone, they're done.
But he got up and he was able to give
it back.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Fantastic U. And now in your role as promoter, of
course you got the.

Speaker 10 (53:51):
Nika Phone Promotions presents.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Son the the we had him in the studio. What
an impress some guy, isn't he? I mean you would
know that.

Speaker 10 (54:03):
He's impressive, talented, he's smart, articulate, and he just wants
to go out there and be the best and he's
got abs.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
He does that.

Speaker 10 (54:14):
I would like to have one.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Day Yeah, that is he good for it? I mean,
is he gonna win? Is he good enough?

Speaker 10 (54:19):
I feel like he's gonna win. Like he's he's not
only fighting for himself and New Zealand, but he's fighting
for his missus, his girlfriend, his family, and there's a
lot of things that he's fighting for. And I do
feel that he's you know, he's taking this camp more
seriously than other camps and he's in phenomenal shape.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Fantastic. Well, listen, all I can do is wish you
all the very best. I'm so pleased it's worked out in.

Speaker 10 (54:42):
Making like I am back and I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Honestly, I'm good.

Speaker 16 (54:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Is there a weight lifted off your shoulder? Despite the
fact you see him at peace and.

Speaker 10 (54:49):
There's something hovering everything I was doing every day just
something was always there and now it's gone fantastic.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Well, good luck this weekend with the Nika fight, and
good to see you and before when you announce the
next fight and will that stuff you coming in talk
to her some more. Nice to see you, man. Joseph
Parker fourteen to two.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
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Speaker 18 (55:11):
It be.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Great interview with Joseph. Thanks Mike showed the character of
the man. Mike Good Interview with Joe. I'll never understand
how you can forgive and stay in contact with a
team member that's stuffed up so badly that's sackable. Will
the person has been sacked? To be honest, Mike, I
don't know. The story has some holes in it. I'm
not convinced that was a true story point being, I mean,
you make up your own mind whatever you like. But

(55:33):
the point being, he's cleared, he's back, and he will
be boxing. So whether you believe it or not doesn't
really matter. The people who make the decision believe it.
Let me quote you this the warrior Is playing style.
We'll talk about it with Richie Barnett in just a
couple of moments. This is Andrew Johns, who I've got
a bit of time for the Warrior's playing style, Why
they can win, Why they can win The warrior Is
playing style, eighty two percent completion rate, great discipline translates,

(55:56):
translates perfectly to finals and deciders their performance and big
and smptant games this year shows that the Warriors control
of field position, pressure on the opposition also built on discipline.
On average, the rewarded two point one more penalties per
game than they give. That's better than any other team,
and cheap penalties aren't in their makeup.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
If they can.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Finish in the top two JAG two home finals, they
will have momentum and an entire nation behind them. Is
he wrong? More in a moment nine to eight.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
So my costing breakfast with defender Trophy news talks.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
They'd be right stand down on Himus. The US and
Israelis ships would be blocked from transiting under the terms
of this draft. This is Amman and Iran. They've drummed
up this one. Iran would issue penalties of up to
twenty percent of the value of the cargo for those
who violate those terms. Obviously, the US have said go
get lost six minutes away from Yes Panthers. So this
is the one that counts, isn't it. We played them once,

(56:49):
we lost, but not by a lot. But surely they
are the yardstick of where the real deal. Richie Barnett
is back with us. Richie, very good morning to you.
I am beside myself with excitement. What do you reckon?

Speaker 14 (57:02):
Oh giez? This is such a mouth ordering game, isn't
it like the last game was just what we'd expect
from Class one and two? One and three. We play
tonight at go Meet Air Stadium, which gives them a
sort of advantage. The weather has no difference, to be fair,
because Penrith out the far west, they're use to this
type of weather. But what we have got a difference

(57:24):
is that we've got to change in halves. You know
Metcalf coming and it's the unknown at the moment. Is
it an opportunity or a challenge for the side. We'll
soon find out tonight. But the class of these two
sides is just mouth ordering right across the paddock, with
even the coaches in the fray. That is unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
If we lose, is that a psychological then we can't
get past.

Speaker 14 (57:46):
And I like that phase, I really do. I think
the Warriors, if they're going to over your real contenders,
they have to win this game. They have to find
a way. They were so close last time, but close
doesn't win your premierships. They need to seal the deal
and it needs to start tonight.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Can they win, Yes they can.

Speaker 14 (58:03):
What I saw last week was a side that really
just I watched it from my couch and just sort
of looked at the side that was appearing to have
some subtleties about them there. Back five was unbelievable. The
injection of Lequa Halasima at the back. I'm a big
fan of charts the cold Cott's they're given that he
just comes into the side and performs really well. What

(58:25):
is going on with carn Pereira, Like he has just
taken what we've always known about the side. We needed speed,
didn't we We needed guys that could change it up
and change a game like an instant can Perier Is
that man, Liquor is that man? I think they've got
a real big difference in the side with Wade Egan.
I think if he comes out and plays the game
that we know he can play, that gives him advantage

(58:46):
and just with that element of Metcalf the unknown, and
I'm hoping he shines really well. But I think Wade
he can can be that gap where he can start
to bring his experience and change the game in the middle.
But I love the fact that they're playing across the
field with their forwards, and I love the fact that
they're ceiling the deal on the edges all fantastic.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Oh you got me, so you worked me into a frenzy. There, Richie,
well done, Richie Barnette for mc keewy's captain of course
and Warriors commentator and there tonight.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Boy, I cannot wait.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Of all the games. I mean, I'm excited about all
the games. But this, this has got a facile about it.
This is this is like, this is do or die.
This is the real deal. This is why we live
for sport, basically, don't we. And there's no other real
sport on over the weekend apartment I suppose is the
All Blacks playing a club site? Really that exciting? I'm
who and the and of course there's no if one.

(59:42):
So to me and Kate after eight o'clock with the
week of course, and then we'll go across the Tasman
to Murray Olds after way thirty Friday, wanting uses next
year on the Mike Husking breeks.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Now this is Nimrods, which is a movie but also
an album. The Oldum is from the movie Green Day
provide the soundtrack and the inspiration for it all. It
tells the story of the struggles and triumphs of the
fictional band the Analog Dogs as they make their way
to Los Angeles believing they've got a gig opening for
Green Day on years e now. The movie is based,

(01:00:41):
not surprisingly loosely on Green Day's own experience before success.
So this is a whole bunch of their tracks, previously unreleased,
bits and pieces and a few quote fun inclusions.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
That's a double album.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Presn't taken to talk about this day because I mean,
given them world of streaming. I don't know what the
point of having a double anything is because you don't
have a double download, do you or do you?

Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
Well, no, that's what this is, the whole Taylor Swift
model of having an at least an eighteen track album.
So you get into all the playlists one.

Speaker 10 (01:01:18):
Way or another because you've got the more.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
It's more tracks of better, So many tracks. One hour,
twenty seven minutes and forty seconds of Green Day from
the soundtrack and movie Nimrods.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
News Talk ZB with Posking in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
I couldn't have made those calls, she sobbed from the
passenger seat of the Ardi convertible. I was having my head.
I was I in the flirtation tape. If you cannot
get through to us, then a fact number will do.
If you have access to one three seven seven two
one three two. What do you think I should happen
to Lorry Mains? Well, look, you know it's very you
know way, the work is very demanding and tiring. So

(01:01:55):
you know that no one can do that, don't.

Speaker 10 (01:01:56):
You, Colleen?

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
I thought that was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Yeah, but it's not real though. And I always try
and order something where they cook something at the table.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
And I ordered a Cazear salad and they make it at.

Speaker 9 (01:02:08):
Your table and it's brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
But I seem to be spending my entire life turning
up late places. But this is all right, because this
means that the ladies, by the time I get there,
are on edge the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
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Speaker 20 (01:02:24):
Believe that, Oh my goodness, Wow, it didn't even sound
like you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
No, it sounds like one point five speed.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
And people say, I speak fast? Now?

Speaker 20 (01:02:34):
Was it had you inhaled helium from a balloon before?

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
It sounds like it just sounds like it, doesn't it.
I think I think it's I think what happens is
when you get material from the archives, we're storing in
a cupboard that's lacking oxygen, and the tape shrink and
therefore I speed up. I'm actually moderately entertaining. I used
to be, anyway. I decided on that.

Speaker 21 (01:02:53):
Okay, I'm still what to Okay, I know, I think
you're still more than entertaining.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Are you very nice to say?

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
I love that. Love the Joseph Joseph Parker interview. Wasn't
that good? That was epic? Now?

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
It was?

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
That was epic?

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
I agree, I was. I found it quite an emotional experience,
to be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
But I could hear it. I could hear the emotion
in your voice.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Because here's the thing. Either he's a drug taking liar
and I've been sucked in badly, or here's who I
think he is and he was hard done by by
a blokey hired who let him down. And so the
interesting thing from the feedback is you've got those two
camps and never the Twain shall meet us talking to
semi off air about it. There's there's a thing in
this country it's probably applicable in all countries. People take

(01:03:42):
sides on things and people. So m m P f
PP all black coaches who shouldn't shouldn't be coaching teams
that will win or lose flu ride tin hats, you know,
and in this case, you know, it's just it's a
weird thing. And no matter what you do. So I
side with Parker. I love Joseph. He's a cool guy.
People no matter what we do, will go He's a loser,

(01:04:05):
he's a deck head, Mike, and so it goes it's
the weirdest thing.

Speaker 21 (01:04:10):
Yeah, it's you know what, it's that kind of and
I think that you know, with the whole chrys Luxen
MMP thing, it plays that whole thing plays into that
polarizing narrative. So if and that produces claques, right, So
then the media goes on the victim hunt.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Oh it's small business one at the beginning of the week.
It's m MP at the end of the week, or
what does what do you think about what he said?
It's it's sort of it's playground. Here is a bit
Katie the Parker. Do you hear the park indview?

Speaker 22 (01:04:39):
I did.

Speaker 20 (01:04:40):
I will just say and I'm with you. You know,
I like to believe Joseph Parker because he's a nice guy.
But I will point out the last man standing claiming
Lance Armstrong.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Never does and this is just oh my god, what's you?

Speaker 20 (01:04:54):
And you even when he came out of himself, even
when he came out himself and confessed, you were like
nai to that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
No, no, no, I didn't say any of those things.

Speaker 20 (01:05:04):
With our heroes, we struggle to you know, if you
look up to somebody, you really struggle to see and
if people don't look up to them, we'll have any
respect to them. It's probably easy for them to just
castigate them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Right. Well, for the record, what I said about Joe,
what I said about Lance Armstrong was he is innocent
until proven guilty, and until he's proven guilty, he is innocent.
And people then when.

Speaker 20 (01:05:26):
He came out and said he was guilty, and when.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
He came out he said guilty, he's guilty. I mean,
I was devastated, obviously, because I want to I want
to think the best of everybody. I'm just I'm just
one of those little little kids who never grew up
and who thinks that Santa Claus is cool and everyone's
a nice adult and stuff like that. That's all whirls
down to.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
This is what this is what we do on wrap
the week.

Speaker 21 (01:05:47):
We let the nation know what you schmucks will be
arguing about on Saturday morning.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
You exercised about Luxon and the I cannot, for the
life of me.

Speaker 20 (01:05:57):
Not remotely. I think we're so bereft of One, we're
bereft of news because we just spent all week going
how cold it is. And two we're very myopic in
this country and the media just anything he says, they
love to jump on and make a huge deal out of.
So it's also it's election here.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
I guess it's also just to come are you exercised
him by the by his comment in and of itself,
did that did you go, oh my.

Speaker 21 (01:06:24):
God, No, because he's a friend of mine, But I,
you know what it's so, it's so it's like he's
talking like a prime minister.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
He's thinking out loud in public. I guess what I was.

Speaker 21 (01:06:37):
I was reflecting that that this this sort of mode
is quite different for Luxean, he said sometimes in the
past he seemed to be a bit sort of sounding
a bit uncertain. He seems to be a bit more
confident in some way these ex Actually.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
How I read it, I think so too.

Speaker 20 (01:06:53):
I think in his last couple of interviews with you
on on a Monday, he's coming across a little bit
more comfortable with himself, and it is in a direct
and I think it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
I couldn't agree more. But if sitting there with Kerry
and he goes, well, the he of course, yep, why
wouldn't we do that? And I'm thinking, good on you, mate,
And then the next thing, you know, apparently where we've
got some sort of nuclear meld. Have you got more
highlights on me? After the break, Glynn, that was it.

Speaker 6 (01:07:16):
I was kind of hoping that you might do something
actually good. But I guess I can go and find
something else if you're not going to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Brief break more in a moment fourteen past.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
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Speaker 20 (01:07:46):
That is so true.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
That is excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
I should say, by the way, I've been very busy
of late putting together the ZB one hundred podcast, and
so that releases. By the way, I should tell everybody
on Sunday on iHeart and so having done it, and
you know how hard I've worked on this, kdie and
I do nothing.

Speaker 20 (01:08:07):
I don't know who's put it together, but it certainly is.
Please tell me there's not more of that on it?
Is there? It's not just clips of you talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Is it one and a half speed hosking? Because that
would be great.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
That's episode three, the six It's a six episode epic.
And I insisted upon signing the contract to do the
podcast that at least one and a half episodes was
dedicated to my time here on ZB and so they acquiesced.
They acquiesced that. So anyway, the podcast drops on.

Speaker 20 (01:08:38):
So honestly, what is on that podcast? Don't put people
off what is on it? No, I am worried about
it is.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
I love what you're doing with this cake.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
You should be straight from the marketing department. Seriously, No,
that's Brilliant's brilliant. Listen to the opening episode it's the
history of goes right back to the very very start,
of course, and look.

Speaker 20 (01:08:57):
As you unerating it or something.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Narration is such a loose term. But but but in
rough terms.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Yes, yes, someone's written it and you've read it.

Speaker 21 (01:09:08):
Also, correct, Kate, Kate, wait wait, wait, to be fair,
to be fair, he probably also highlighted it reading.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
It quick pin through some of the key words. Yep,
there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
And then I I the bit I said, I think
we need something I added, and we'll be back next week.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
So stuff like that, you can tell my.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Anyway. Also, there's a glossy magazine coming out on the
Sunday newspaper. With the Sunday newspaper.

Speaker 20 (01:09:35):
What about for those of us who don't get because
we're not question years old, we don't get the newspaper anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
There'll be a digital edition and a download.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
There'll be some Instagram story something for you stick. Yeah, Okay,
it's a big deal.

Speaker 21 (01:09:51):
Like it is a big deal in a way, like
you think duration matters, legacy matters, and you sort of think, well,
will there be a stuff one hundred year celebration.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
I'm not entirely sure.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Answer from the marketing department Katie digital version coming on Monday.
So so you. But but there's nothing you know, say
whatever you want about being called trendy in tech. There
is something still powerful about holding something in your hands.
Why books have survived obviously something hold holding something powerful
in your hand and flicking through it. The art of
flicking through something is not to be underestimated. Am I correct?

Speaker 20 (01:10:24):
M Yeah, my parents would agree with you. And also
they like doing the crossword and stuff like that.

Speaker 22 (01:10:29):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
But it's not it's not just.

Speaker 21 (01:10:31):
It's not just you know my parents. There is there
is a move amongst younger people to the artifacts, which
is actual box, actual things and actual I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Looking through my double glazing there, Tim and and Sam's no,
there's not. And glean equally for a for a man
who can barely move his neck is moving his neck quite.

Speaker 6 (01:10:51):
Fast, and I haven't seen them.

Speaker 20 (01:10:56):
I can tell you it's not true.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Yeah, no, we're calling yes on that term.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Sorry, no, no, I'll tell you what I was.

Speaker 21 (01:11:03):
I was out of a quiz night last night organized
by some some young people.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
What's that? No, No, we're not. We're talking around answers.

Speaker 21 (01:11:20):
Answer this question. What color are the rainbows on Mars Blue?
Well done.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
All right?

Speaker 21 (01:11:26):
What position does Kelsey Travis play?

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Oh he's a tight end?

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Boom. Oh you're good, You're good. Okay, what's the baby?
A kidney?

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
What's it called a kidderama?

Speaker 21 (01:11:41):
It's cooled, it's called it's all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
I was just pulling you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Here we go, So there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Look, can you let go?

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
It's eight twenty? Can you let go of the Hey, Katie,
how about this week? I've got to wrap this up.
But how about this week?

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
You're ready? Two dollars for salmon? What's going on there?

Speaker 20 (01:12:01):
Well, I didn't pay eighty two dollars for salmon, but that's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
That's what's going at eighty two Andrew Keller up there
was giving us New Zealand salmon. The company were saying,
we're doing well, gangbusters exporting eighty two dollars. There's nothing
you can buy in terms of food that's eighty two
dollars a kilo. And yet that's what they're charging. People
are paying.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Hey, can I just.

Speaker 20 (01:12:21):
Put to you before we go some breaking news in
from the gardening team And there's a week surprise waiting.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
For you know why?

Speaker 20 (01:12:30):
And I just in a week that we announced the
opening of the CRL. I want to say, we at
home are going to be ahead of shed and we're
going to be opening for the CRL. And there's some
exciting action happening this morning.

Speaker 21 (01:12:41):
Oh my god, don't want this about what's what's the fountain?

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
New idiot?

Speaker 20 (01:12:49):
And the flow is apparently amazing?

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Is it spirting already? Well? He is about the flow?
What's the spurt exactly?

Speaker 20 (01:12:57):
I think you're going to be impressed with the spurt?

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Have you have you?

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Have you seen a video?

Speaker 20 (01:13:01):
I've seen it.

Speaker 10 (01:13:02):
I've seen a video.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
My god, I've got it. I've got it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
I'm actually breaking out in the swetnam all list and tears.
I need to end the segment right now to go
to the bathroom. Eight twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
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Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
I got some very good news.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Chemics Warehouse have just wrapped up that fifth annual charity
drive we told you about. The result is in credit
bull So together with all of us customers, store teams,
supplier partners, the whole thing raised and donated six hundred
and seventy thousand dollars. So think about what that means.
The two hundred and sixty seven air ambulance missions funded
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Had Skiing Pomp's in the Oval office at the moment.
He's quote unquote according to Fox, I think the Iran
conflict's going to be over soon about two weeks. Yeah,

(01:14:32):
two weeks, as meant two weeks. New Zealand lamb racked
Mike one oh seven dollars a kilo in San Francisco.
People are paying it. That's the story. Red meat numbers
this week. Beef and lamb going gangbusters read a very
I alluded to this earlier. I read a very good
piece in the BBC yesterday in fact, what's causing record

(01:14:53):
high US beef prices? Let me briefly come to that
after the news, because it tells the story as to
why we are basically going gangbusters at the moment, and
there seems to be no end in sight to that.
So that's all good news. Also got some good news
out of Australia with our old Murray Olds is with
us right after the news, which is.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
Next credible compelling.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
She Coime's just wrapped up in the Oval office. Apart
from stunning the world by saying that the Iran warri
thinks it is going to be over very shortly, he
was of course asked about whether they're running out of weapons.

Speaker 15 (01:15:32):
Fortunately, I built up so much during my term. I
rebuilt the military and also loaded it up with a
lot of stuff. And we have certain types of initions
that are very powerful that we have unlimited virtual, unlimited supply.
We have others worths a little bittainer, but we have
certain types of Innisians which are very They may not

(01:15:54):
be as accurate. They may not be you know, they're
not as elite. We have elite too, but we're we're
watching that very closely.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Its literally no sense.

Speaker 22 (01:16:06):
Then.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Of course, by the way, Higgsy's not going to get
sacked because the rumor that I started the program. I
didn't start the rumor with the program earlier on the morning.
The rumor was that he and Higgs Sith had gone
head to head and somehow Higgs Eith had you not
told him the true story about the lack of munitions. Anyway,
he says, doing a great job. He's not going to
get sacked. But then again, he said, the walls over
any moment. Now, ah, Ukraine, now where are we at

(01:16:27):
with that?

Speaker 15 (01:16:28):
We want missiles too. You know when Biden gave him
so much. Biden gave three hundred billion dollars worth of ammunition.
You know, when I left this it was full, and
he gave a lot of it away. Now we're rebuilding
it and we're using munitions that are very powerful, very good.
But we wouldn't have been using it we couldn't used

(01:16:49):
something else. Plus we have supplies of munitions all over
the world that we ever needed them.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
We take this international correspondence with insurance peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Never forget. He was the bloke you told you when
the war started out that the oil supplies and reserves
in America were so full that he didn't know where
to put them and they needed more places to put him,
which turned out to be completely and utterly not true.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Murray Olds is with us out of Australia. Morning Mate,
Good morning Mike.

Speaker 16 (01:17:20):
He's like the old granddad you invite to the wedding
and he has one too many figures and you think,
bloody hell, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Worse and worse, doesn't it now? Handsome this week. I
was noticing her yesterday, so she's got one of one
of her blokes who was on Stefanovic's podcast talking about
Tim Hats and Kim Trails and how he likes who
was at that Jones guy and all that sort of stuff.
But I'm also noted this week on the pole, she's
back up on top and all over the immigration.

Speaker 16 (01:17:48):
Oh well she is. And you know, when you look
at what she's offering, immigration is her number one key
point and she's banging that drum very very loudly. Labor
right our good friend Tony Burke aka Tony Burker. He
is from Labour's left and he is the Immigration Minister
of Well Home Affairs, Minister in charge of Immigration. He

(01:18:08):
canceled a key speech this week at the National Press
Club and there's lots of speculation he's been rolled in cabinet.
No one will talk about what happens in cabinet because
of cabinet solidarity, but all the talkers he was rolled
in cabinet by colleagues because he wants to do something.
It's not going to go over too well across this

(01:18:29):
wide brown land. And Pauline Hanson a great line this week.
It's not the newhistle of lines. But she said we
don't need more Now, what did you say, a nail
sell on workers. They don't need more of those people,
No more ubers, no more masss. You know, all the
chilly jobs that are allowed to come in and there's

(01:18:50):
not enough people over here banging nails into bits of
wooden building homes. So she's onto something and we all
know that, and that's all. She's really the same, only
paid that she's got the fly with. But boy boy,
she's doing a hell of a job and she's spooking labors,
spooking labor, no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
You know that speech that Burke canceled, they did they
freak out or one of these, Because I mean, the
reality is, as much as immigration is an issue, you know,
you need immigrants to do stuff that the average Australian
doesn't want to do. And that's before you get to
the business of the highly skilled people who can come
in and cover your gaps as well.

Speaker 16 (01:19:24):
Well, here's the thing labor's under I mean Tony Burke,
he has always is. There's no secret about Burke. He
wants to populate Australian He's got a big heart. So
if you've got I don't know what a doctor, a
doctor wants to come from Jordan, say okay, well we'll
have the doctor. We'll have the doctor's wife and the kids.

(01:19:45):
And by the way, we'll have that doctor's wife and
the kids and his parents love be her parents as well.
So you've got this family reunion component that has just
out of control. According to the critics, That's what Tony
Burke probably wanted to say this week. We're going to
expand that program for example. Now he may not going
to be saying that, but here's the thing. Burke has

(01:20:06):
been under a lot of pressure. This is a single
policy that Pauline Hanson is using to belt them and
it's really really working. To look at the figures. She's
got nothing else to say, Mike about anything else. She
got this mad ragtag bunch of halfworks behind her. She
says she's going to have candidates in every single seat
in the Victoria election at four months time. Where's she
going to find these people? Yeah, I mean, it's just ridiculous.

(01:20:29):
She makes as much sense as Donald Trump. But boy boy,
she's getting some traction.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
It will be her undoing. Ultimately. I mentioned this on
the program earlier on this week because we are in
this country Mary having a similar sort of discussion, not
that we've done anything about it. And that's the old
business of the big tech companies ripping off people's news stories,
and what do we do about how do we make
them play? Blah blah blah. So Elbanezy comes up with
a plan. Channel nine hits the wall, going, we'll hold on.
The plan's not the plan because you've changed the plan

(01:20:54):
and we're going to have to start cutting even more
jobs than we've already cut. And then the very next day,
after a feature that on the program, Big Tech via
Trump comes in and goes, well, this is unacceptable, and
you know you're in trouble now. So where's he left.

Speaker 16 (01:21:07):
Well, look, in twenty twenty one, there was this plan
that you know, your Googles and your mess and all
the others out there, the big players had to pay. Well,
that fell over in twenty twenty one. Labour's trying to
get it back. Local media companies are saying, listen, we
are producing this content. We deserve to be paid for it.
We don't want Mesters and Googles coming along and just

(01:21:29):
pinching at all. That's what the argument, you know, the
argument that the publishers have been putting up. The big
tech companies. Mike say, well, hang on, we share these articles.
We give these commercial people who are providing the news,
we give them extra new platforms to go global, and
so we're actually doing them a favor. Well, hang on,
I mean the government really is it's you know, our

(01:21:51):
jobl copedis you're going to straddle the barb Wie affairs.
It's it's just a really tough, really tough You mentioned Trump.
He says you cannot interfere with American tech companies can
do that? Well, hang on, hang on, So how do
you make these these enormous companies pay to have the
you know, their platforms populated by stories that come from

(01:22:14):
all over Australia, all over New Zealand and they get
those stories, got nothing. It's not fair. But how the
hell do you fix this? How do you come up
with a working solution?

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Yeah, quick pop quiz for you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
I was reading a report yesterday. The suggestion from the
report was that the working from home thing in Australia
is slowing and there are more and more officers being
let by businesses. You got on a vacancy rate of
thirteen percent in Sydney, nineteen percent in Melbourne. Would you
argue that by and large people are returning to downtown
metropolitan Australia or not.

Speaker 16 (01:22:44):
Well you'd have to do a coffee shop, you know, headcount.
But anecdotally, yes, that is the case book down in
Victoria just center around and had that work from home policy.
For goodness say, just toxic as far as employers are concerned,
big and small down there. This new guy, what's his name,
Ben Carroll's got a hell of a job as he
tries to save the furniture between now in November when

(01:23:05):
the election is. But work from home. Yeah, look, it's
an idea that works for many people, but that does
not work for many many others. And so you know,
I know a young guy who is a team of
about one hundred people who go out and clean homes
for people with disabilities or who are aged. Those people
can't work from home byke that the young guy can

(01:23:27):
a lot of the time, but those people have to
go out and do those jobs at the cold face.
So you know, striking the balance, You've got to strike
the balance. But you know that's such a difficult, difficult
spot to get to.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Yeah, exactly. Good on you have a good weekend, appreciate
it as always. In Australia. By the way, it was
announced this morning from SMP Global have retained their triple
A credit rating. They're one of only eleven nations in
the entire world isn't that extraordinary? Only one of eleven
nations in the entire world, and there's couple one hundred
countries who have a triple A credit rating, so you
can't mark them down on that eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
We'll kick off the one hundred celebrations for ZIB in
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they've announced to the market this morning they've acquired the
print plant equipment at Stuff's Patni facility that extends enhances
the profitability of their ongoing print operations. They're going to
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commission is going to be up to fifteen million over
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operating savings of around seven million. Current lease at the
Ellestly plant, which is where they print the Herald and
Stuff through until the end of twenty eighth. So that's
material for people who think that print is dying. According
to ensid ME this morning, it is not eleven away
from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
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Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
The British Press.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
This morning, I was read a review of ted Lesso
first episode of for season four is dropped and I
happen to watch the first episode of season four. The
review says self satisfied ted Lesso has run its course
for reviving it is a lazy mistake, giving it two
out of five stars. I disagree, which just goes to
show you how pointless reviews of anything really are. You

(01:25:17):
can make up your own mind. I was looking to
I was thinking it was probably going to be a
bit lacking, a bit overworked for something that was originally
set up as a three season. How do you regurgitate
a fourth season when you weren't expecting a full season?
But I was really fantastically surprised. It is what it is.
If you didn't like it in the first time, you

(01:25:38):
wouldn't like it. You won't like it all of a sudden.
But if you're thinking you will be disappointed, you probably won't.

Speaker 6 (01:25:43):
Be worth watching. For the running gag with the barbecue sauce,
apart from anything.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Else, I couldn't agree more. Morning, Mike, give us your
prediction for the Warriors. I feel like we're in for
a blinder and the Warriors can get it done with
a few dramatic twists and turns along the way. That'll
do me. Uckson had said it has been news. Lackson
says Warriors will win. Peter says it's a power grab. Also,

(01:26:08):
other politicians say, have you noticed how cold it is?
Basically the week isn't it sex away from Sex? Away
from nine?

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
Trending now with chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
All year out, no one year year, one hundred years
of ZIDB and the celebrations officially kick off, by the
way over the weekend, start tomorrow night with a very
special in my day. So that's exciting, And got your
glossy magazine on your Sunday paper. You've got drinking. Someone's
going to be drinking to celebrate it. And if you're
not part of ZIP, why don't you drink? Have a

(01:26:43):
drink over the weekend to celebrate Zidby's one hundredth Why
wouldn't you. Here's a taste.

Speaker 23 (01:26:51):
Good morning, everybody, Good morning everybody. Well, now, if I
can only get in all the answers, because there's different
recipes that have been sent for me. The be trip
Chapney that somebody wants. I'll give that quite soon now,
so I'll be ready.

Speaker 22 (01:27:05):
I'm sure that you now have a handle of photocyphon.
I don't want him as pert till I tell you
what to do, and then it's a very nice totocyphon.
It makes me thirsty after our boy, You've got to
do a little bit of acting here.

Speaker 12 (01:27:30):
Trom to.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
How many people?

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
Tell me? How many people have you interviewed?

Speaker 20 (01:27:33):
Oh, I'm sorry, I can't remember.

Speaker 13 (01:27:37):
Oh, several thousands.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
What was yoursing moment in an interview?

Speaker 11 (01:27:44):
I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
I think when I really can't remember when a very famous.

Speaker 5 (01:27:49):
Lady said she.

Speaker 16 (01:27:51):
Was going to dry up before we had We were.

Speaker 11 (01:27:53):
About to have a national hooka.

Speaker 15 (01:27:58):
Christmas.

Speaker 24 (01:27:59):
Do you want, oh McCarry, oh for a Scottish spider.

Speaker 10 (01:28:02):
You look ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
Whether where the big black boots aren't my word?

Speaker 24 (01:28:07):
And also the the red jacket and the red hat,
and you've got to a bit of cotton all around
your face, Biddy left your killed time looks a bit ridiculous.

Speaker 25 (01:28:23):
We're coming to you from a motor race course just
outside Graymouth, where in half an hour the Pike River
Remembrance Service, the National Pike River, the Official Pipe River
Remembrance Service for the Doomed Miners and the mine workers.
All twenty nine of these men will begin.

Speaker 11 (01:28:40):
News talk, said b It's been like a lightline really
in some instances. Currie Woodham and Larry in the afternoon
and Danny Watson, I.

Speaker 14 (01:28:47):
Just wanted to say thank you very much for a
coverage on Classroom.

Speaker 23 (01:28:51):
I don't personally thank you a CD for the pantestic
job you've done an extremely trying circumstances.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
This is the time.

Speaker 26 (01:29:03):
Australia seventeen. You dayling right, Big World Cup champions two
thousand and fifteen, So mys.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
Midnight, the moon is that Trump is going to win it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
And the number of people coming down the stairs far
exceeds the number of.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
People going up the stairs.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Before you couldn't get up, couldn't get in. Now you
can't get up because the people coming down are blocking
the way. Jeez, Memory Lane, twenty sixteen, Jabbett Center. That
was the night that Trump didn't Hillary Clinton refused to
come out on the stage. What a story. One hundred years,
so many stories over the next couple of weeks months

(01:29:47):
on on Zibbe. As we say, that special program starts
it all off officially tomorrow night.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
Anyway, go the Warriors go the morning. We cannot wait
to talk about the.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Victory on Monday. Whatever you're doing over the weekend, PAP.

Speaker 16 (01:30:00):
For you Days.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
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