Full Show Podcast: 13 August 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
No fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The Mic Hosking
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Be comes today, the coub it wasn't and whether that
said Mark Mitchell is backed with the inside words getting
a security heads up from the boss of the essays
for you this morning, Fin Melville ives one of our
half pipe kings is in after right, Joe McKenna in
Italy and a Brady in the increasingly parched in United Kingdom.
Osky Welcome to the day, seven past six. So the
winners out of yesterday, apart from Christopher lux and Obs

(00:31):
were as follows. One Mark Mitchell. The most remarkable thing
about the coverage was how he got placed in the
leadership mix at all. I might have an advantage of
having him on the show every week and therefore know
him pretty well, but honestly, all you have to do
is listen on a Wednesday. No one, no one is
more relux and man than Mitchell. That guy would die
in the ditch for him. Loyalty is his middle name.

(00:52):
He pledged when Luxon ran and won. He was there
with him through thick and thin, and if you know
the man, you know, that's the truth. So how he
ended up alongside Stanford Deputy was not only not real,
it wasn't ever a thing or close to it. And
yet no shortage of journals was wearing black and blue.
That was the deal. Even during coverage yesterday morning, Mitchell's
name was still being tossed about, despite the fact he

(01:13):
had said he was Luckson's man's and most importantly on
this program, had been up with Luxon until eleven o'clock
at night sorting the numbers out. Question, how do you
hear that and still tell the rest of the world
he in Stamford of some sort of ticket. Mitchell has
always been one of my favorite people, because, like him,
I value loyalty. Yesterday, in my mind he went next
level and two. Nikola Grigg Erica is a friend of mine,

(01:37):
she said, but she isn't a prime minister. Give the
woman a medal? Where did that come from? In a
world of mealy mouth no hopers, protecting their own backs
at best being able to utter some support for the
prime minister at worth saying nothing incomes Nichola of Canterbury
and tells it like it is. I loved it. I
admire it. I revealen people who speak their own minds,
and she is right. I don't know if Erika as

(01:58):
a prime minister, but you didn't want to find out yesterday.
Trying times can bring out the best and worst in people.
The people who spark this nonsense know who they are.
But two of them, Mitchell and Grigg lifted my day enormously,
news of.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
The world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I mixed bag for the dams last night in those primaries,
as the progressives didn't quite do as well as the
height might have indicated. Flanagan, though, who is a progressive
of Minnesota, got up.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
We need to rip Ice apart and stop them from
terrorizing our community. We are going to fight the corruption,
whether it's in the White House or in the halls
of Congress, because the grift has to stuck.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
She might want to work on a microphone skills, but
that to side point. She faces Michelle Tafoyer. Now you
may remember Michelle Tafoya from Monday Night Football sideline reporters.
They're racing for a Senate seat. Anyway. The great democratic schism, though,
is over. How all this progressivism is paid for?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
So we see around the world every other large welfare
state funds.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
They're huge governments with really.

Speaker 6 (02:58):
Big taxes on the middle class, and that there's no
way around that.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Correct. A couple of things from Britain. One, obviously it's
still hot and we've got numbers actually behind what he
does to an economy.

Speaker 7 (03:07):
It's that thirty degree cutoff point that the research that
we've been using from Alliance to the insurance company, it's
a big cutoff point to whether these impacts start to
play at once you get about thirty degrees or so.
There's an obvious productivity impact that starts for appeared.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Having said that, yes, yesterday we told you how everyone
was buying beer and buying clothing and their spinning was
up too. They're having the eversion of the eclipse.

Speaker 8 (03:29):
At the moment.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Just people enjoy the beach on a hot sunny day,
some swimming, some of them under their umbrellas, and some loungers.

Speaker 7 (03:37):
Later.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
I think this will be very, very busy, indeed.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
And then some sport. Firstly, Infantinos still in a world
of plain. As the Africans joined the debate, I get.

Speaker 8 (03:47):
Too many telephone calls from too many member associations worldwide,
and what I like is is to focus.

Speaker 9 (03:54):
On the unity.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
He's being loyal to African football.

Speaker 10 (03:58):
He enjoys the Secondly.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
The Lakers as in basketball, they've been sold.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
A lifelong NBA fans. We are deeply honored for the
opportunity to become stewards of the Los Angeles Lakers. A
long term commitment is to build on that foundation, sen
and serve this extraordinary team. It's fans and the city
of a Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Let me come back to that. Finally, Dallas Pokonik, he's
pled guilty to wire fud. What was he doing while
he was being a fake pilot? He had a fake
idea got him on hundreds of free flights fro multiple
airlines on seats preserved only four pilots, including the jump seat.
So he got pinged. Finally, because he posted about all
this online. Of course, someone took a screenshot, sent it
to his alleged employer, who wasn't an employer, and they

(04:39):
worked out they had no idea who he was, so
nick stop prison up to twenty years. News of the
World of ninety Yeah, the Lakers thing's interesting for a
couple of reasons. One the two people had bought it
Joshua Kushner Kushna Is he related to Jared? Yes, he
is brother? And Bob Iger Now where do you know
that name? From Disney? Of course, so they gone, they've
gone and bought. The other interesting thing about it Walter
by the way, who owns the Lakers and has just

(05:01):
sold it. He had only owned it for a year.
But he's also got Stakes and the Dodgers and Chelsea.
But the interesting thing also is that the Lakers got
solved for twelve vers value a value of twelve and
a half billion, which when you go back to yesterday's news,
which was Bezos who is buying Manu? Manu comes in
at ten billion, The Lakers come in at twelve and
a half billion, proving that basketball was bigger than the EPL.

(05:22):
Twelve past six, the.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
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Speaker 2 (05:32):
No idea Why I said, man you was of course Liverpool,
because Enda was telling us about it the other day.
Truth social Amazingly, it's taken this long for somebody to
sue Trump over his business of selling his truths. So
the Intercept Media Group and Freedom of Press Association taking
that particular decision to court. And the other thing, by
the way, on the Strait this morning, five day average
of thirteen ships per day, three month low. But the

(05:55):
Energy Secretary, Chris Wright, he argues it's actually oil itself
as which to seven day average of nearly nine million barrels.
Because he argues private companies undercount the he moves straight
transit so mega that you will fifteen plas six and
sure and partners. Andrew callah, good morning.

Speaker 10 (06:13):
Very good one, he Mike.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
So that's a reasonable read. Isn't it a lot there
to be seen in the inflation department we take them.

Speaker 10 (06:19):
Yeah, that's right, real global focus on inflation currently, I
mean central bankers around the world are dealing with inflation
that's I mean it's already above their target ranges and
looking for signs that that high royal prices starts to
sort of be seen in second round inflation that then
feeds into inflation expectations. And on that note, actually we've
got the release of the RB and Z inflation expectations today.

(06:41):
I'll give you the results of that tomorrow. But back
to US inflation. You last night saw the release of
US CPI inflation data for July Admittedly the Federals prefers
the PCE inflation measure, but there's still a huge amount
of focus on this. On the headline and core CPI inflation,
it's good news in line with the expectations. CPI month

(07:02):
or month in US rows a very low zero point
one percent core CPI if you strip out the volatile
stuff up zero point two percent year on yet three
point four percent. That's for the headline, a core CPI
two and a half that's the number I thinks of
real interest two and a half percent. Core inflations under control. Really,
So what we've seen is the money market's over there

(07:23):
pulling back expectations of a rate high in September. If
you go back to the end of July, it was
probably fifty to fifty on whether the Fed would put
rates up at their September meeting. That probability is now
in the thirties, maybe high thirties. Market now thinking that
sort of peak FED funds rate would be below four percent.
It's also allowed share markets to recover overnight Mike and

(07:47):
for the minute, forget about the fact that the will
price is still elevated and seemingly no sign of a
breakthrough despite what we're always told in the Middle East.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
So yeah, good news, give me well more good news.
Talk to me about concrete. How about that creep.

Speaker 10 (08:00):
Let's talk ready mixed concrete because it doesn't lie, of course,
because this is hard data after all. Stats New Zealand
released the quarterly data on the volume of ready mixed
concrete being poured in the second cord a little bit dated,
you know, because it's to the end of June. I
love it, nonetheless, so drum roll please, A big jump
in the amount of REZI mixed concrete being poured. Actual

(08:23):
volume one million, bang on the nose cubic meters poured,
twelve percent more than was poured in the June twenty
twenty five quarter, probably the best quarter of has seen
since sometime in twenty twenty three. The year number years
to the end of June three point seven seven million
cubic meters poured. That's a modest increase on the years
to the end of June twenty twenty five, one point

(08:44):
eight percent. It would be very unlikely to surprise listeners
when I inform them that the Canterbury region is very
strong on the concrete barometer, recording quarterly growth when compared
to the June twenty twenty five quarter of twenty five
percent percent, which follows a sixteen and a half percent
lift in March. Tiger's Southland also twenty percent on that metric,

(09:05):
and here's a surprise though Northland was quite strong. Not
sure what's happening in Northern up twenty six and a
half percent. Still hard work in the Auckland region. The
years to the end of June for the whole of
the Auckland region was the lowest level we've seen in
five years for the for the twelve month number, but
the June quarter looked a little bit better. So look
it's it's accelerating and that's good.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
News, right and give us a good quick word asben
CBA tied up. Of course, a lot of commentary in
Australia about the housing market, of course from the bank.

Speaker 10 (09:34):
Yeah, we've talked about west Pac and the low level
of loan applications. The RBA men comments on it as well.
CBA announced results yesterday including their operation here asp ASP
profit fel lift and operating expenses we saw there which
was not helped by one hundred and thirty five million
dollar class action settlement profit down two percent, still posted
at one point four billion dollar profit. Interesting comment from.

Speaker 9 (09:56):
CEO of Vittoria Short.

Speaker 10 (09:57):
They said they had momentum at the start of the
financial year, a very different second half back to the
mothership CBA. Their experience on the modjeb application front investor
mortgage applications have fallen twenty eight percent since May. They
do say it's stabilized, didn't stop them from generating a profit.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Of eleven billion dollars. Staggering numbers.

Speaker 10 (10:18):
Share price quite stable though, so there you go.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Good stuff, Give me some numbers.

Speaker 10 (10:23):
Yeah, so slightly more positive, while the dal Jones is
eking out again sixteen points fifty three thousand, eight hundred
and seven, the S and P five hundred up point
three percent seven seven five to one, but the Nasdaq
posting a one hundred and sixty three point gain as
we look at it at the moment point sixty two
percent twenty six thousand, six hundred and nine. The Forts
one hundred lost eleven points, so small for ten thousand,

(10:45):
eight hundred.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
And thirty three.

Speaker 10 (10:47):
The nick A come back to work after Mountain Day,
up point eighty three percent sixty seven thousand, five hundred
and twenty four point three two percent rise in the
Shanghai composite three nine four six the AUSSI easier. They
lost point four five percent, forty one points nine two
oh ninety a six two hundred the ends nexts fifty
down one hundred and twenty three points yesterday, point eight

(11:09):
nine percent thirteen thousand, seven hundred and thirty seven one key.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
We doll it a little bit weaker.

Speaker 10 (11:15):
Point five eight five to five against the US, point
eight two nine two against OSSI, point five oh eight
two against the Euro, point four to three four oh
pounds ninety three point four against the Japanese yen gold
four thousand, three hundred ninety nine dollars and BRENTCRIWG just
stable really eighty eight dollars and eighty six se.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Well, then Andrew Kellahershaw and partners pasking behemoth Norway's Sovereign
Wealth Fund. They announced a profit. Did they make a profit?

Speaker 9 (11:40):
Boy?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Did they make a profit? Record half year one hundred
just the one hundred and eighty four billion. They got
a little slice of SpaceX worth about one point two billion.
They're into seven thousand companies and fifty different countries. They
have stakes in about one and a half percent of
the world's publicly listed stocks. It's an incredible story. Six
twenty one and a half News Talk zb.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
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Speaker 2 (12:12):
Morning Mike, You're the only shining light in this fiasco.
I loved your self assessment yesterday of your own strengths
and weaknesses. While the media and some other ZIDB hosts
of Urban baying for blood, they failed to read the
room of public sentiment. We don't want another leader of
the National Party right now. People spend too much time
giving credit to the looney left media like Thomas Coglan.
Thomas got off scot free on the radio last night.
Reading the room was John keys skill knowing what the

(12:33):
nation thinks? What is wrong with New Zealand? Do they
not see that we're about to head over at cliff
and lux and saved us. It has taken a while
to turn the ship around, because, as they say, you
can't make chicken sell it out of chicken shit. Bring
on November seventh. So there's a bit of that sentiment
that actually yesterday might be the circuit breaker and it
might actually work out well for National Six twenty.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
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Speaker 2 (12:58):
Maes Sing, which is only Thursday. But can I suggest
in the early hours of this particular morning that pretty
much no one is going to have a worse week
than Chris Pink spectacular coup cockup sacked for his efforts,
then straight to the reflection time with his family. Anyway
back in the hut last night, old Bishop who no
shortage of people believe Pink of course was doing the
numbers four turned up to a hut Valley business. Do

(13:19):
not that he was going to spill any beans.

Speaker 11 (13:21):
That's completely incorrect, utterly irrrect.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Did you ever ask him to do the number spent?

Speaker 11 (13:25):
Absolutely not that he was not doing the numbers for me.
Chris Pink, as as the promisers said, watched a challenge.
It didn't succeed, obviously, and in his siggestion that he
was involved in doing the numbers for me as completely work.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
The other name associated with Pink and the duplicity, of course,
was Miss Stanford of the North Shore. I'm very confident
he was out doing his own very confident. Is he
categorically very confident or just very confident? So with Pink's
entire career shot to pieces. Of course, Bishop very very emotional.

Speaker 11 (14:00):
All I'll say is I understand what the problems that
has done, what he's done. Yeah, you know in relation
to cross and you know it's tough to cross, and
you know if you lost of the government.

Speaker 9 (14:11):
But that's what happens to us.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, that's what I happened. So yeah, oh well, never
min Mike. If Pink was doing the numbers for himself,
he must have thought he had the numbers. So he
must have been shafted by quite a few in the caucus.
He was certainly shafted, no question, he was shafted. And
if you think he was doing the numbers for himself,
you're dreaming. It's going to be interesting when they next
appear on this program because you think I'm gonna let

(14:36):
this go. What else can I tell you? Oh, we've
got security problems this morning? Is Pink right for the picking?
So when you talk about security problems and other countries
infiltrating us, would you go after Pink now that he's
a bit disgruntled. Would you offer him some money, twist
his arm? What would you do? Just questions? I will

(14:57):
talk to the head of the si S later on
this morning time.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
If you file of the socials there. I'm still heading
from Morocco this weekend and that's Spain Italy. Things going
nowhere good, So we'll get the update from Joe mckenner
and Italy shortly. Back here at twenty three to seven
pre election report out this morning, we find that what
they call non tariff barriers are costing is more than
nine billion dollars a year now these costs affect eighty
three percent of our exports. There are account of nine
different barriers. Apparently Joshua Ten, Executive director for Export New Zealand,

(15:34):
is with us. Josh morning, good morning MIC. So certification,
technical standards, label and rules, blah blah blah. Do they
not get cleaned up in fta's No.

Speaker 12 (15:44):
So those are mostly outside of FTAs. I think you
know what the question is is that you know what
can New Zealand really do to work through some of
his non tariff barriers? And that nine billion dollar figure
now to be fair to our government officials to accustoms
agents to our negotiators. They work incredibly and these barriers
can take years of intensive work to actually get other
countries to address. So the point that we're trying to

(16:05):
make care to thein NEX government is that need to
increase the resources into the expertise within those agencies more
effectively so they can go after more of these barriers
and reduce that nine billion dollars figure hopefully return some
of that money back to the New Zealand economy.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
But barriers are there for a good reason in some cases,
aren't they. I mean, what's the difference between a barrier
and a free for all You just let anything in
any time to anywhere.

Speaker 12 (16:26):
Yeah, So, like a non tariff barrier can be anything
from laboring requirements or to additional certification, import licenses, you know,
And individually these things can sound quite minor, but collectively
they can add quite significant costs and delays an uncertainty
for exporters. As we've stated about nine billion dollars you
know worth of revenue into New Zealand. You know, we've

(16:48):
heard a lot of examples from exporters. You know, they've
done everything that's required here in New Zealand under an FTA,
they've shipped the product and then it gets het up
at the border, right because overseas authorities they interpret the
certification the requirements differently. So that's when you're dealing with
potential delays of weeks, storage cost, product deterioration, and obviously

(17:09):
frustrated customers at the other end.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
I noted in your report this morning, you're also talking
about R and D and a tax writer from fifteen
to twenty five percent. So how much of this is
about barriers and how much of this is you in
election time going hey, give us a break.

Speaker 12 (17:21):
Look, there's a lot that's in our report. I think
the thing for us is, you know, we're talking about
international competitments. We're talking about things like growing our economy.
It's not just free trade agreements, it's not just non
tariff barriers. Actually, there is a whole system here in
New Zealand that we need to address and to get
right if we want our exporters to grow.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Indeed, do we set the standard? In other words, when
they come back at us and go, well you might
want this, but look at you guys, do we are
we clean as a whistle?

Speaker 12 (17:49):
I think we do a really good job. We've got
a really strong reputation overseas markets for being an open
and honest trading partner.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Okay, nice to talk to you appreciate it. Joshuatan, who
is the executive director for Export New Zealand, Mike Erica
Stanford dot dot dot dot. So disappointing. So that's the
question this morning. Do you think less of her? So
she was the rock star until yesterday. She was the
rock star who was, you know, saving education, reforming education,
doing some good work in immigration. All of a sudden

(18:17):
she's tied inextricably to what happened yesterday. You haven't heard
from me, you know, you haven't heard from her, never
heard from her going in, never heard from her going out?
Do you think differently over this morning? Nineteen to two The.

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Speaker 2 (20:09):
Good morning to you.

Speaker 13 (20:11):
Good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I've been fixated this morning watching Pom's watch your partial eclipse,
because of course I don't know if people realize it.
In Britain it's only a partial, it's not even the
full deal, whereas another parts of Europe it is. Do
you have it in Italy?

Speaker 14 (20:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (20:24):
Well I was going to race up to the terrace
an hour before we were due to talk and we
had a massive storm come through Rome, so we couldn't
see much in Rome. But some people in northern Italy
have been sending me images from up there about sixty percent.
I think coverage up there not really a full eclipse.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
It's there benefits. Is it just me that I'm a
lifeless sap? I mean I just can't get I mean,
we had one here I can't remember, but it was
a number of years ago, and everyone got moderately. But
I just thought, okay, fair enough, I've seen it, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 13 (20:54):
I think I think it's all about having the gear
to watch it. You know, you don't want to watch
it through a cereal box or as crack it.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Right, No, that is true. That is a cereal box
or a jets cracker, quite right. So this Spain Italy thing,
where are we at with that?

Speaker 9 (21:07):
Well?

Speaker 13 (21:08):
Is this we've talked about? This is that now become
a tit for tat where Spain has been blocking Italian
travelers or at least asking them to present their passports
and IDs, after Italy did the same thing to Spanish
travelers coming into Italy. This is, of course, the border
control dispute that emerged after all those migrants surged from

(21:29):
Seyuta into southern Spain on July thirty. So this is
going backwards and forwards, and these border controls from both
countries are going to continue until September.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
I think, yeah, we'd on the social though, there's another
raid coming this weekend. If that happens and it gets worse,
what happens nothing, they just get well.

Speaker 13 (21:49):
I mean, I think they're going to be really on
full alert this time and supposedly stepping up the border
controls there and trying to block people from swimming into
the country like they did last time. But if that
does happen again, I think Italy is really going to
go berserk again because they're so unhappy about this situation.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Does this work well for Maloney politically as she sets
out her final year's priorities.

Speaker 13 (22:12):
I think it does. I think migration, believe it or not,
is going to be a huge issue at the next
election in Italy, which is probably due in April next year.
Having said that, Italy has done a great job in
reducing the numbers not so significant this year, and we
haven't seen so many arrivals coming into Lampaduca, the island
off the coast of Sicily, so it still remains a

(22:36):
sleeper issue. I think for many Italians.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
What's she going to do? Does she have work to
do to convince Italians or does she go and do
you think we're a head of steam.

Speaker 13 (22:44):
She's under pressure. She's when I talk to people on
the streets, they say, what has she done for me.
She hasn't done terribly much. Her priorities seem to be
tax cuts, increasing purchasing power, trying to keep those consumer
toss down, and concerns of course about the energy prices,
which is a big concern for Italians, and try and

(23:06):
stabilize employment, because this is a country I think that's
still undergreat to live economic pressure.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
This wed a couple of things on the weather I've
discovered this week. One, they had some sales figures out
in Britain yesterday and spending us up because people are
buying beer and toks, so that's fine. But then we
got the numbers this morning saying you know, there's a
lot of production that's not happening in productivity is down,
blah blah blah. The other thing I read, and I
hadn't thought about it properly, is that this is limited

(23:32):
to your place Britain, some France, some bits of France, Spain,
but there's a lot of Europe that of course isn't affected,
and that would be northern Europe.

Speaker 9 (23:42):
Yes.

Speaker 13 (23:42):
Indeed, the bank, the Triodos Bank, has come out with
a survey saying that the cost of your EU economies
is around one hundred and eighty billion euros this year
because of this heat wave that hasn't shown any sign
of slowing down, but it might this weekend. I think
the big impact for Italians is really on agriculture. We're

(24:04):
seeing a real great deal of concern from the Caldereti,
the agriculture the farmer's organization, saying that production is down
and it's going to have a big impact on crops
and milk production and cheese production.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
All right, Joe, Nice to catch up next, Joe McKenna.
Just before I leave Europe. There's a new train service
between Finland and Sweden. As this significant I thought it
was because it's going to connect northern Finland with southern
Europe for the first time in forty years. It's a
double decker train. The route was suspended back in the
eighties because of low passenger numbers. Ironically, and they also

(24:38):
had they had that classic thing between Finland and Europe
on the train tracks. You see it in Australia, used
to see it in Australia. Depending on where you are,
the width of the train tracks is different. Weirdest thing.
So anyway, Finland, because of history, if you know your
history with Russia. Finland had the Russian tracks which were
wider than the European so they're sort of working that
out at the moment of trying to change it. So
it's a twice daily service. Makes it possible to travel

(25:00):
five thousand k's by rail from the elgarf in Portugal
to Finland's northernmost train station at Kollari, which would make
it the longest train route in Europe. What I know
about trains is in my v logging fascination. There's a
couple I follow greenograss dot com and they were on
a train the other day and they do a bit

(25:21):
of train travel and they were on a seven star
track that's called thus seven Star Trains. It's in Japan,
and you can't get a ticket. It's done by ballot
and everyone applies. Thousands of people apply for it, and
they pull your name out and you get it. You
got to go on that particular day. Anyway, it's one
of the greatest train journeys in the world. But every
time they go on a train, they never sleep because
the train never stops and it goes and it rocks

(25:43):
all night and every time the next morning they go, oh,
we didn't get much sleep last night, And I think,
why are you paying five thousand dollars a night not
to get any sleep? What's the matter with you? And
you're trapped on a train, tiny little train, They're all tiny,
doesn't matter what sort of room you get, their tiny
little rooms where you can't move, where you've got a
crappy bathroom and a crappy shower, and you're going. And
then of course after breakfast, and all you do is eat,

(26:04):
so you get fat, because that's literally all there is
to do, because breakfast lasts for nine hours and lunch
lasts for the other sixteen. And then you go back
to sleep and not get a night spot.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
Don't find that noise that you are making quite soothing.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
No, it's not as the rocking of the train, that's
all cool, But it's the movement that prevents you to
be you know what I mean. Anyway, I've never.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
Mind this record. I get you to do it about
long hour recorder and then I can play it to up.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Here for your personal satisfaction. Nine minutes away from seven, got.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
My costing breakfast with Bailey's real estate news dogs.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
There'd be cotle of car things overnight. Andy Green who's
the bloke who broke the sound barrier. Only guys ever
broken the sound barrier in a car anyway was in
another car overnight. It was a JCB sixteen hundred breakhurse
power Hydromax streamline. The reason I'm telling you that was
driven by hydrogen, so they're spooking hydrogen. And he went
six hundred and fifty three point nine oh eight kilometers now,
which is reasonably quick, certainly quicker than Auckland Transport will

(26:58):
allow you to go down most of the downtown's street.
So he's happy about that, I think. But more importantly
than that, the supercars story. This is amazing. If you're
following supercars, so Triple A, which is Win Cups team
Will Brown brock Feenie, and you're looking at them this
year and you're going they're not going very well, are they?
What's happening there? Then suddenly last weekend in Perth, Phoene
comes right. But Will Brown doesn't why they've discovered they

(27:23):
supply bits and parts for supercars to the other teams.
They've discovered an undersized engine airflow restrictor. In other words,
they had a part that wasn't the right part and
the guy doesn't go fast enough because of the part,
and they then inflecked all those other parts onto the
other teams as well, so that now the question is
what do you do about that? So Will Brown's not

(27:45):
been able to win or go as fast as he
would have because of the part because the airflow's restricted.
So whose fault is that? And what do you do
five minutes away from seven?

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Well, the ins and the outs, it's the fizz on
the mic hosking breakfast.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
More housing data? What can I give you Cotality Pain
and Gain report, That's what I can give you. For
Q two, eighty six point nine percent of homes were
sold for a profit, which is down from eighty eight
point one not much lowest proportion of home sold for
profits since twenty twelve. So that gives you the flatness
of the market at the moment. If you sold for
a loss, they're increased by from eleven point nine percent

(28:20):
to thirteen point one quarter on quarter. So in other words,
the percentage of home sold for a loss of gone up.
PETE was COVID We all remember COVID ninety nine percent
of home sold for a profit in that particular period
of time. GFC was your low point though eighty percent,
so we're still a mile off GFC times. Average amount
of money made when selling for a profit in the
quarter two hundred and eighty grand used to be two

(28:43):
hundred and ninety two, so you're not quite making as
much money. Average losses between fifty five and sixty. Trend continues.
The blongie hold of property, the more profitable it is. Obviously,
those who made the most profit in Q two had
been holding their house for ten and of their years,
which is a record. By the way, We've never held
homes for so long. That's part of the market at
the moment. If you don't have to do anything, why
would you. And for those who sold a loss, they'd

(29:06):
been owning for four point three So that's the know.
You want to take a punk, You're not taking a
punt for any great gain at the moment. That's the
that's the lesson than the property market. Also, if you're
redoing your kitchen in an expensive house, don't put liner
on the floor. That was the other one we learnt
this week. Got the read on the nut inside yesterday
what happened to Mark mitchell A What it's a funny thing.
I mean from Winston Peter's point of view, I suppose

(29:28):
it is that, isn't it?

Speaker 8 (29:29):
You know?

Speaker 2 (29:29):
After all of that, nothing but my word, it was
a day yesterday, wasn't it?

Speaker 8 (29:34):
So?

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Mark Mitchell also the head of the Sis with Us
Andrew Hampton's back. He's got increasing numbers of warnings about
the difficulties we're facing this increasingly troubled world. So we'll
talk to him in a couple of moments as well. Meantime,
News is next Time.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
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Speaker 2 (30:07):
Seven past seven. So how about the coup that wasn't day?
Upside luckx and survives having stared down the descent twice?
Problem is does the descent go away? And was yesterday's
circuit breaker? Mark Mitchell's back with us. Make very good
morning to you.

Speaker 9 (30:18):
Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Very much appreciate you being on the program because the
long association with the show of Courser means you're here
and not elsewhere. So I do appreciate that, and I
thank you for it. The can you just put to bed?
And I'm hesitant to ask yet again, but there are
people in the media who absolutely insist that you were
part of it in some way, that you were there
with Erica and you were going to be a deputy.

(30:39):
Were you or were you not?

Speaker 9 (30:42):
No? Absolutely not. I was.

Speaker 15 (30:44):
I was fully focused on making sure that we had
our leader emerge as.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Leader, simple as that. So at no point were you
a contender in any way, shape or form in a
new leadership team.

Speaker 15 (30:57):
Absolutely not. I was fully focused on. My whole focus
was making sure that Chris had the support that he
needed to emerge as leader. I thought that it would
be well. Number one, I'm a huge supporter Beck and
believer of his. And number two, I just thought would
be a disaster for us as a party to be
changing this close to election.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
With the benefit of hindsight. When you were talking to
us at a eight o'clock yesterday morning, how confident were
you you had the numbers?

Speaker 15 (31:22):
It's hard to tell, you just don't know going into
those things.

Speaker 9 (31:26):
I was quietly confident.

Speaker 15 (31:27):
I just thought that most of the caucus realized that
this was There was no upside to what was happening,
and that we go on there and we'd em merge
with the result that we did and that happened, So
it was great.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Can you explain how it felt if there was a
thing ever, how it fell apart so spectacularly overnight.

Speaker 15 (31:47):
I just obviously there's just never the support there for it.
So you know, it's been it has been an unnecessary
distraction for us.

Speaker 9 (31:56):
We've dealt with it.

Speaker 15 (31:57):
Now we've re emerged united behind the leader and this
is not going to happen again, and we're fully focused
on making sure that now we do we govern number one,
because we aren't governing through some pretty difficult global headwinds
at the moment as well.

Speaker 9 (32:10):
And number two, that we pull together.

Speaker 15 (32:12):
The National Party is a big, powerful campaigning juggernaut when
it gets going, and we are going to get going,
and we're going to remind the country that the alternative
is nine new Texas at a time when actually kiwis
need a break from Texas and the ability to breathe
and start to rebuild.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
When you say it's not going to happen again, you
say that with what level of surety?

Speaker 15 (32:35):
One hundred and well, I always people, what are you
one hundred and ten percent, I said, because I'm trying
to say that it's even better than one hundred percent.
So I've got absolute confidence and faith that we are
not going to be dealing with any issues like this.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Again, what happened in that room yesterday to give you
that confidence.

Speaker 9 (32:54):
Well, we don't.

Speaker 15 (32:55):
I can't talk about what happens inside the course room.
Of course, that is confidential. It must remain there, and
it's important that it does. But what gives me the
confidence is that we all emerged as a united caucus
with a commitment to one another, a commitment to our
party members, a commitment to our volunteers, and a commitment
to the country that we'll get behind a prime minister

(33:16):
that's been doing an outstanding job for us as a
country through difficult times and make sure that we're returned
to government.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
The I don't know how to ask this because you're
not going to answer it properly. Pink was a stalking horse.

Speaker 9 (33:29):
Yes, No, I don't believe that. I don't know.

Speaker 15 (33:33):
I'm not going to speak. I can't so I'm not
in his mind. So I can't speak for Chris. For me,
because you know, I was a big supporter of his
and remain so he's a in terms of he's a friend.

Speaker 9 (33:47):
I consider him a friend. He's a very good man.

Speaker 15 (33:50):
He's it was completely totally out of character. I haven't
had the chance to sit down and talk with him
and find out actually what was going on. He's announced
that he's leaving the party. You know, I just want
to acknowledge his service. I mean, he's he's I backed
him to become Defense minister in cabinet.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Did he deserve to get sacked?

Speaker 9 (34:12):
You can't. It's untenable.

Speaker 15 (34:14):
You cannot bring forward a challenge on the leader and
not expect there to be consequences, and the consequences of
that as you can't. You can't just turn up and
sit around the cabinet table after having tried to organize
a challenge in removing the prime minister.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
And you're honestly telling me that he wasn't doing the
numbers for Stamford or Bishop or both.

Speaker 9 (34:34):
No. I don't know of any evidence of that happening at.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
All evidences do you suspect it seems it seems incomprehensible
Mark that a bloke that most people have never heard
of thinks he can be prime minister.

Speaker 15 (34:47):
Yeah, I know, I understand that, and like I said
to you, for me, it was completely totally out of character.
But I can't speak for him, and I had no
evidence to say that there was anything other than the
fact that he was bringing forward a challenge to the
Prime Minister.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Your assessment of your ability, the party's ability to get
up and get on from here on it and that
you're not mortally wounded.

Speaker 15 (35:10):
No, we already are getting up and getting on and
without a doubt. And that was the good thing about
We're putting a line under this now and I've come
on with you, and this will be the last time
that I'm speaking about this. But no, no, we're definitely
not mortally wounded. We've quite the opposite. Were energized, we focus,
We've got a great team. We've got a very strong
lineup of MPs and candidates around the country. Like I

(35:31):
said to you, when the National Party gets going and campaigning,
we're a big, strong juggernaut. We really get out there
and our people are fantastic. I had a volunteers meeting
straight to volunteers meeting last night in the area surf
club back home, and I had sixty volunteers waiting and
the Surf Club to they want to get out there
and they want to get campaigning.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Appreciate your time very much. Mark Butchell, Nationally, MP thirteen
pasted right, I call to past seven. Our news from
our spy service. Things are not looking flash. Our security
threat is intensifying. I'm not sure it's news when they
say the geopolitical upheaval is increasing the risks we face
in this country. Foreign states are targeting our tech, there's
interference in the asper communities, and then we get to
the violence extremism. Andrew Hampton is, of course the nz

(36:11):
sas director General enders with us. Good morning morning, Mike.
The warnings that you issue this morning, are they broadly
applicable to all Western countries or can you isolate out
specific things for us.

Speaker 16 (36:24):
I think there's some general global trends that are impacting
on New Zealand, for example, increased foreign interference and deterioration
and the global threatscape. But I think there are some
things particular to us. Our geographical location makes us a
prime site for people who want to establish satellite equipment

(36:46):
in New Zealand, and we've seen examples of that. We're
also located in the south Pacifics, which is becoming an
increasingly contested area. So those are some specific things to us.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Really a simple scale of one to ten, because you've
been around a while, how worried are you? Ten? You're
freaking out? One don't worry about it.

Speaker 16 (37:08):
Look, I still think New Zealand is probably one of
the safest countries.

Speaker 14 (37:11):
To live in.

Speaker 16 (37:14):
But we say that the thread environment is definitely intensifye
and that's been driven by global events and we've seen
them the last year, Wars breaking out, a range of
countries engaging in geostrategic competition. So all of that is
impacting in a negative way on our own threatscape.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Our membership of the Five Eyes does that enhance our
standing in the world in that sense?

Speaker 16 (37:40):
On New Zealand gets huge benefit from being part of
the Five Eyes. We get access to intelligence, to technical
capabilities that we simply wouldn't be able to access otherwise.
At the same time, New Zealand makes a pretty unique
and highly valued contribution to that partnership.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
But it makes me good target, I don't think so.

Speaker 16 (38:01):
It's certainly the benefits we get from it outweighs the disadvantage.
What I really want to emphasize, though mic is everything
that we do in that five eyes context is on
New Zealand's terms. It's in accordance with our own priorities,
our own legal requirements. No one can ask us to
do anything we can't legally do ourselves.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
The interesting comment you might, well, you made a number
of interesting comments, but the d Aspera comment interests me.
Which d Aspera? And how worried are you?

Speaker 16 (38:31):
New Zealand has a very diverse social makeup. We've got
people who've come from all around the world. Unfortunately, we
are seeing several states trying to exercise a degree of
control over people in New Zealand, often people they perceive
as dissidents, and we include case studies in this report.

(38:52):
Our biggest concern continues to be the people from public
or China. When it comes to foreign experience.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah, and getting worse.

Speaker 16 (39:02):
We would assess that there is progress being made in
countering foreign experience. I think there's a lot more awareness
at the political level than there has been previously, but
that tends to push it elsewhere. So we're worried about
foreign inference, targeting local government, targeting universities, and targeting dash

(39:24):
for community. So possibly not getting worse, but certainly changing.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
What about that bloke in Russia the other day, I'm
sure I'm not going to tell us about it, but
I mean, is that part of this I mean, that's
that was a fine line between comical and I'm assuming
in some way real.

Speaker 16 (39:39):
Well in v Sas, we do have a foreign intelligence
mandate where a human intelligence agency, we do operate offshore.
In terms of that specific story, I'm not going to
comment on what may we not may not be operational matters,
but Russian state media is probably not the best best source.

(40:04):
I was pleased to see though that the Russian ambassador
did acknowledge that we are a capable agency who provide
value for money for the New Zeland taxpayer.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Exactly random question from me, but if you were looking
to cause trouble in this country, would you go after
Chris Pink disaffected politician, just been sacked, angry man? Is
that the sort of thing you target.

Speaker 16 (40:27):
I've got no reason to think that he would be
particularly targeted. But the general point we make in our
report is politicians, people of influence are targeted for foreign interference,
and when we're come into that election period where people
are more available to the public that risks increases.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Right, appreciate your time. Andrew Hampton from the n z
SIS seven twenty.

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SKI seven twenty four. So not for the first time
of too many people read what happened yesterday completely incorrectly.

(42:02):
It was over Tuesday. It was over. They told us
it was over. The numbers were done Tuesday night.

Speaker 9 (42:07):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
They told us there wasn't a caucus meeting required. Wrong.
Mark Mitchell was the Stanford deputy wrong. The idea that
Luxon could do this twice impossible wrong. One of the
great sadnesses of the modern media and its lack of
institutional knowledge is too many people talk to themselves, or
don't recognize when their sources are stitching them up, or
they put too much of their own agenda into the coverage.

(42:28):
This is not to say that Luckxin didn't have trouble
and the members of the National Caucus weren't whining, but
it is to say that doesn't mean when push comes
to shove, you pull trigger on what almost certainly was
a gargantuan political mistake to repeat from yesterday. The Poles
are fine. Luckson's issues are not sackable. The economy is
turning them any simp just upgraded our GDP, for God's sake.

(42:49):
This is no time to panic. This is no time
to put your burgeoning aspirations at a backbencher to the test.
I'm thrilled for Christopher Luxon. He deserves a lot better
than he's got. The foibles, if you want to put
them like that, are not sackable offenses. The fact Peter's
last time Seymour this time spoke well of what he's
done in a tricky, first of its kind coalition deal

(43:10):
is not to be underestimated. Oh the irony that opponents
can see what his backbenching moaners couldn't. This is not
was not a crisis. This was a self centered navel
gazing bitchethon from National MPs who should know and behave better.
By the way, from the remember where you heard it
first file When National, When and the coalition enters the

(43:31):
second term and the luxe and era of leadership issues vanishes.
Because that's what happens with victory, it will be a
moment to savor. The easy thing for Luxon, of course,
to do, would have been to walk, and a lot
would have belief is a sadly rare but powerful trait,
and he, whatever else you say about him, clearly has it.
Staring them down for a second time might just be
the nail in their coffin. He is a better man

(43:54):
than they. Bosky probably texted the morning, I'm glad somebody's
got there at last, Mike. I'm not. I've heard or
seen anything much about the actions or inaction of the
party whip throughout this your thoughts, Barry, well done. Stuart
Smith could well be the most incompetent of the war
because the whips jobs. There's other whips in there that
I don't even know what they call them, junior whips

(44:15):
or deputy whips whatever. The point of a whip is
to keep the leader informed as to what is going
on in the caucus. Now. I have no indication that
Stuart Smith was on top of that, or even close
to being on top of that in time number one
or number two, which I was anticipating Pink being sacked yesterday,
and I was also anticipating Stuart Smith being sacked for

(44:36):
fairly obvious reasons. He hasn't been, and I would like
to ask somebody who will eventually appear on this program
from the National Party, namely Luxon on Monday. Why not.
Actually I'm seeing Luxon on Friday. Actually it's good that
Luckson survived because he's coming to the one hundredth party
on Friday for z B and I am in the

(44:57):
unfortunate position of having to speak and most of my
material revolved around him being there. And if he wasn't
going to be, I would have to have written a
whole new thing.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
So if no one probably talked longer and nobody wanted
advance exactly.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
So for no other reason, I'm grateful if he survived yesterday,
so I don't have to rewrite something Peter had done.
Opportunities apart from anything else, because no one knows more
about small parties than Peter done.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
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Speaker 2 (45:31):
For to having Tin Melville lives on after eight o'clock
this morning. Free ski and half pipe was part of
the Olympics. He was the guy who fell badly broke
his collarbone. Anyway, the news on snowsports. That's good for
New Zealand, so we'll have something on that for you.
Shortly twenty three to eight remaining questions out on Pinkgate.
Was is national mortally wounded or was that it was

(45:52):
that a circuit breaker if they are wounded, how badly.
Peter Dunn knows all about this. He's been there and
done that. Of course, news back, but that's Peter. Very
good morning to you from Mording.

Speaker 9 (46:00):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
You've got to give Luck some credit for facing them
down twice and winning, don't you?

Speaker 14 (46:06):
Yes, you do, But I think you know three times
has probably a stretch too much. So this has got
to be the end of it through to the election.
All the sentiments yesterday about were one hundred percent united
have now got to be demonstrated. In fact, if Nationals
to come through this unscaped a.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Lot of people critical of that press. I mean, he
did it first time round as well. He turns up,
says something, leaves a lot of people critical of that,
Are you no?

Speaker 14 (46:28):
I think that that in the circumstances, if it opened
himself up to questions given his capacity for verbal gas,
I think there were really risks that that could have
gone awry. So I think he handled that correctly. And
I think that even making the Pink decision, whether you
agree with him not, by press stable was probably the
correct thing to do as well.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
What's your summation of what you think happened there? Because
I do not believe that Pink was wanting to be
the Prime Minister of New Zealand.

Speaker 14 (46:53):
No, I see, I've heard that theory. I think it's
a bit far fetched. I think he was the genuine,
slightly sort of John Boy Walton out there, you know,
sort of knew what had to be done for he
knew how to do it and sort of stumbled into something.
I don't think he necessarily was actively working with Bishop
and Stanford, although he was clearly touting their cases, and
I think in the circumstances, a sort of political myivity

(47:16):
just caught up with them.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
You go back to the let's involve Stanford and Bishop
in this in some way, shape or form, given their
role in this or whatever does luxe and he's got
to keep them close. This goes back to Clarke et cetera.
Got to keep them close, and in keeping them close,
you potentially negate future problems. Is that fair?

Speaker 14 (47:35):
I think absolutely correct. I mean, he can't really run
a credible government without those two, So they have to
be there, they have to be in senior roles, and
they have to be seen to be treated as senior ministers.
So no option there but to keep them close.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
No does this solve itself if they go to the
election and they get back as a coalition in the
second term. Do Luxon's problems go away if they travel well?
Or is Luxeon forever doomed in some way, shape or form.

Speaker 14 (48:03):
I've always thought that Luxelon wouldn't do two terms, that
sometime during the second term he would decide of his
own volition to move away. I think that's still the case,
assuming they win reelection, And I think the question then
becomes how the transition is managed, and maybe what we're
seeing now at the first sort of stages of that
being played out pretty ham tristedly. I agree, But I
think this is the jockeying ing for what happens when

(48:25):
Luxon eventually moves on.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
In general terms, how damaging is this for national Do
you expect it to be this is it and we'll
move on, or this is going to hit them and
hit them hard.

Speaker 14 (48:37):
I think it will hit them. Whether it will hit
them harder, I think is an open question, but it
will certainly hit them in the short term, and a
lot will depend on how people behave out in the electric.
One loose comment or one sort of ill defined sort
of moment could sink them. They've got to be really
tight and really disciplined from now and I think that's
going to be a challenge because you've got a lot

(48:57):
of MPs who'll be making miscalculation. Look, I'm doomed whatever happens,
So I've got to go out there and make every
post a winning post for me. And that's the risk
that they start campaigning for themselves rather than the party.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Right your expertise pleased on the Opportunities party. No one
knows how a small party can suddenly rocket to prominence
more than you do with the worm. So last night's poll,
whatever they're at, is that enough? If we get two
or three of those, are they in or we still
can't say that.

Speaker 14 (49:26):
I think it's too early for this reason. I think
they've potentially peaked about a month or two too early.
If they were in this position sort of four to
five weeks out, you'd be much more confident about their
capacity to sustain that momentum through to the election. So
I'd rather wait until that point. But at the moment
I think they're playing it quite well. I think they're
being very coy about their options, which is correct. The

(49:48):
one thing they cannot afford to do, though, is get
ahead of themselves in terms of their aspirations. If they
are to be part of a government, then my very
strong advice to them to be would be to not
seek ministerial positions because they don't have the experience, but
to work on a confidence and supply basis. The problem
with all politicians, of course, is that are in those circumstances,
personal ambition often gets the best better of personal judgment.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
A good point. Are they filling a gap, a genuine
political gap in the landscape, or are they the recipient
of disdain and upset and misery from an electorate that's
sick of seeing what we're seeing.

Speaker 14 (50:22):
I think it's more the latter. Now having said that,
they do have some defined policies, but I don't think
they're well known or well understood. But I think they
are appealing at the moment because they're different. They're the
fresh faces on the block and they're not part of
the circus that's going on at present. And that goes
right across the house. I mean, you look at the
comments by Hipkins yesterday on who he would work with.
We're sort of having promised a firm statement now becomes jelly.

(50:44):
So I think there's a public revulsion against this whole
current political environment, and that beneficiaries of.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
That always enjoy your company. Peter Peter Dunn, political commentator
for me Unite, a future leader. Of course, reference to
the worm with you worn't around or two young or
whatever is famously the worm. He said the worm on
television and the big debate the worm went up and
Peter was in parliament, simple as that whill he was
already in parliament, but he got like six or seven MPs,
just like that very opportunity party. Yes, speaking of Hipkins,

(51:10):
so he's in Rhoda Rua yesterday he finally admits that
the public housing got out of hand, no kidding, there
are lessons to be learnt following the influx of people
into Rhoda Rua. Asked whether the city deserves an apology.
He couldn't say yes, He couldn't say sorry, and that's
his great archilles heel. He is so arrogant that the

(51:34):
best he can ever say, and he said it about
COVID as well. Well, listen to learn we did our best.
We did our best. There are lessons to be learned.
He can never say sorry. He doesn't know how to
say sorry. He doesn't know how to show any level
of humility, and I think as the campaign goes on,
that's going to count against him.

Speaker 8 (51:49):
Seven So what was that?

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Seventeen to two The.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
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Speaker 2 (52:00):
I've just been announced that Carolyn Levitt is leaving the
White House spokesperson. She gave birth very recently, left for
a very short period of time, came back, as it
turns out, for a very short period of time. Now
she's going I personally would conclude that motherhood has changed
her and she doesn't need whatever's going to unfold in
the next two years and she can get on with

(52:20):
a normal life. But I could be wrong. We'll see
what happens. Mike, the Opportunity Party, youre like TikTok hit
peak views when people actually look at the website tax
calculator realize they've got to stump up tens of thousands
of dollars they'll disappear. I at this point on this
Thursday morning, still agree with you. I've got one pole
that I could believe in, which was last night's TV

(52:40):
one pole, and apart from that, I've seen no evidence
that they'll make it. If you get three or four
of those poles like last night's, then may change. But
I don't for one moment doubt that things will sober up,
and I think Peter duns on it, people will sober
up closer to the time. And why I yet again
reiterate that I literally believe none of the poles at

(53:01):
the moment because people are just people are just those
who are participating one aboard, and two a portion of
the board people participating will be just messing with the
polling companies for the sake of it. It'll be, to
put it bluntly, shits and giggles for them. As for
and I said this to Ryan before and I'll reiterate
it one more time. TV one has got to get
that if they want to be given any level of

(53:21):
credibility in their polling. First of all, last night's had
a problem. They didn't talk to as many people, and
they did explain it. To their credit, they didn't talk
to as many people, so the plus and minus was
way higher than it normally is two. Most importantly, you
can't say, assuming the Maori Party get all their six
seats back and then add all the numbers together, that's

(53:41):
not the poll. The poll is the percentage of the vote.
This is MMP. It's not how many seats they've got.
In the Maray Pard You're on one percent, which is
not six seats. Now, the fact they've won previously six
electorally does not mean you can say that again. And
yet they insist on saying it and then adding those
numbers together. The conspiracy the theorist will say because that

(54:02):
suits their agenda. I wouldn't go that far, but they
are misrepresenting what is going on there. Great honest interview
by Mark gives confidence in national running the country. Mike,
what a chance the pinkster stands in his electric for
another party like New Zealand First zero guy's a loser,
lost his mind and is going to go off into

(54:23):
oblivion and do whatever he does, and we wish him
the best. I wish him no ill will. I just
can't believe. I mean, there's a psychiatrist out there just
waiting for it, isn't I mean you, Chris, lie down
and tell me your story. I mean, Jess, there must
be something going on in there. So who was? He said,
I can't, I can't, I can't be in Chris's mind.
I was, Mark, See, I can't get into Chris's mind.

(54:43):
I wanted to say, well, if you're in there, what
do you reckon? What happened to you? Mike Repink proves
the old adage that if you go after the king,
you got to make sure he's dead. It appears there
was never a thing luxem heard. Pink was up to
no good, called as bluff, and it worked out end
of story. More to it than that believed me. Mark
Mitchell's loyalty in support to Luckson speaks volumes to his
character in Luckson's leadership. On that we are agreed tend to.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
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Speaker 2 (55:12):
Given away from a funny old relationship with the cruise
industry continues to develop this morning, Auckland have launched a
ten year plan aiming to make the city Oceania's leading
urban cruise hub. Right now, the industry is worth just
under a quarter billion, supports thirty seven hundred odd jobs.
Annie Dundas's director of Destination at Auckland Unlimited. Of course
us back with us anday morning.

Speaker 17 (55:32):
Good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
How much of what you're looking to do as Auckland
as a city is hindered or tied up with what
we as a country seem to be doing with the
cruise industry, which is, as far as I can work out, problematic.

Speaker 17 (55:47):
Look, we've got to get Auckland right. We get Auckland right,
the rest of the country works on cruise. So you
know the government is worshing in lockstep with us with
ports across the country to make sure we get the
settings right because we've had a reputation being no Zealand
and now we've got to kind of open our doors
back up again.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Is that you saying that or is that as we
as a country now saying that. Have the rules been
sorted well in Auckland.

Speaker 17 (56:11):
We're certainly making in roads and the government is certainly
pushing for much more consistency around charging, around biofueling, around
a whole bunch of bunch of settings that we have
to get right for cruise lines. You know, cruise lines
have got so much choice in terms of where they
want to travel, and if we don't have we have
to be competitive otherwise we miss out on a billion
dollar industry.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
So where are we at with that? Is everyone on
the same page and we get that or are you
still facing pushback from certain people?

Speaker 17 (56:38):
We are on the same page. We're on a bit
of a journey. We've had a big different arrivals from
crews in the last two years because deployment decisions are
made so far in advance. But we do feel like
we've plateaued and we're starting to see that we've you know,
we've hit rock bottom and now we're kind of coming
back out in terms of deployment. So things are, the
settings are moving, ports are working together and we are
trying to get a better result.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Out of this. My next question is is there a
co lab with the ports you tower on as your
aps et cetera around the country or not?

Speaker 12 (57:07):
Oh?

Speaker 17 (57:07):
Absolutely. So we have an New Zealand Cruise Association that
sets that they have a strategy and our strategy falls
very much into line with theirs, so that we are
making sure all ports are on the same page.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Do you have a sales pitch. You've got to give
the cruise lines or will they come on board when
you say, look, sorry about all this other stuff, we're open,
let's go.

Speaker 17 (57:25):
Well, we do have to. We've got to talk about
our infrastructure developments that we're working on, which are going
to mean that all can can take three ships at
one time. We want to improve this sort. We want
to make it more seamless for passengers as they get
off the ship and how they obviously connect with things
like the airport, because ultimately a lot of people fly
in and then jump on a cruise. So how do
we make things more seamless. How do we make the
welcome more endaring for visitors so that they get a

(57:47):
sense of what Auckland is in the city, and that's
the first point often for many before they head around
the country. So we've got to do it right here
and then obviously in every other port too.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
All I can do is wish you the best with
that any any dundas director of at Auckland Unlimited is
the weirdest sole thing where tourisms are calling card along
with dairy and farming, and we made a part of
tourism difficult. Five minutes away from eight asking the head
of the Opportunities Party on where was this? Was this

(58:17):
on Truth Social? On X She's not on Truth Social?
What incredible this is the head of the Opportunities Party.
What incredible man and courage shown by Chris Pink today.
Please don't take a backwards step. Now you have a
chance to stand up for your country and tell everyone
what you really think about Luckson's leadership. He has given

(58:41):
you this platform music to New Zealand's advantage. What sort
of undermining nonsense is that? Is this? How is it
the leader of the party? Is this a legit? How
is it the leader of that party can say that
and then say and we're perfectly happy to work with
both parties. Those two things don't join together. This his
name leaves Galloway, Ian Lee's Galloway. He's been around long

(59:03):
enough to work out that that's a stupid thing to say,
isn't he. It's going on there by the way, if
you want, if you want some fun today, if you've
got a couple of spear moments, go on the Opportunities
Parties calculator. And it's a good calculator. It will show
you how broke you will become and how quickly. It's incredible.
So they supply the calculator and they ask you who

(59:25):
you are, and you know whether you're single, with a couple,
with your own, a house, with your own land, et cetera.
And you click on the box and then you put
in your salary and then they tell you how much
more text you'll be paying. It's incredible. Do it when
you're in a good mood. If you go in with
a bad mood, you'll be suicidal by the end of it.
But if you start with a good mood, you'll probably
just end up laughing. It's quite something how they can

(59:46):
do it and then still expect you to vote for them.
I've got no idea. Let's talk snowsports, Thin Melville ibes
after the news which is next?

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Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Seven past eight. The snow Sports team is about to
see the arrival of Shawn White's latest competition. The Snow
League is in its second season, so this year they're
introducing the Snow League World Challenge, which will LaBute Katrona
in September four Teams North America, Europe, Asia Pacific and
The Challenges. He's a part of it Cam and Finn
Melville Ives Campbell is in the team Asia Pacific and
Finn is in Team Challenges. Anyway, for Melville, Ives is

(01:00:30):
with us. Very good morning to.

Speaker 8 (01:00:31):
You, Good morning team.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
How are you very well? Indeed? What sort of shape
physically do we find you in this morning? Given the
last time I saw you you flat on your back
in a pipe.

Speaker 8 (01:00:42):
No, I'm all good now. That was maybe a few
five months ago at the Olympics. Had a little crash,
so I'll be scared for maybe four months now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
How does that regard because your collar bone, there's nothing
you can do about it now? Sort of disabled?

Speaker 8 (01:01:02):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
During that rehab process?

Speaker 8 (01:01:06):
I wasn't too bad. I just had a like minor
concussion symptoms and a broken collar bone. But I ended
up getting surgery in a Swiss hospital, so I got
a bit of titanium in my column pretty quick, and
then I was pretty good to go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Do you feel pretty normal? Does that work? I didn't
think they put titanium in a collarbone. I thought you
just let it heal naturally.

Speaker 8 (01:01:28):
Some cases you don't, in some cases you do. I
feel great now, so yeah, good. Literally the next day
out of the hospital, I felt like pretty much like
eighty percent it lost together.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
What's you're One of the things I'm interested in with
elite athletes is when when you're injured, how psychological does
it become when you come back, and especially in your sport,
when you're doing something you want to do trick wise,
how do you balance that up in your mind?

Speaker 8 (01:02:00):
I mean, yeah, it's definitely a big head game because
you're like, you're not necessarily skiing, You're not doing much
because you don't really have a job skiing as your job.
So when you're recovering, you're kind of that's all you
do is recover, Like you just go to the dym
all day stretch. It kind of just makes up your
day every day and go on walks and stuff. So, no,

(01:02:23):
it can't get pretty boring, but yeah, it's definitely a
big it's all in the Yeah, definitely gets in the
hat for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Exactly. So do you get help in that or do
you do that stuff yourself?

Speaker 8 (01:02:38):
I mean at snow Sports New Zealand, which is a
part of High Performance Support New Dylon, which is a
government funded agency for like athletes. We have like sports
sits and yeah, they help us out a bunch and
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Yeah, what's your injury toll? I mean, how many times
you've been injured? And how many times do you have
to come back? And do you get sick of it?

Speaker 8 (01:03:01):
This is his name, only my second major injury and
I've been probably like competing at World Cups for four years.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Well, it's not bad. So is that average? Is that
normal all the people you ski with and know?

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:03:15):
Probably, I'm not sure, honestly. Yeah, some people get injured
more than others, But I'm not sure. I feel like
that's pretty average normal. Maybe I'm not sure.

Speaker 9 (01:03:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
The other thing I'm interested in with elite athletes is
you grew up on the mountain, So your parents were instructors.
You guys, just that's what you did. You lived on
a hill. How much of that? If I had a
kid and stuck them on a mountain, would they automatically,
in some way, shape or form, become a great skier
or does there have to be a lot of natural
God given talent there in the first place?

Speaker 8 (01:03:51):
I reckon I reckon. If you put a little bit
child like skiing like three or four times a week,
and they find the love for the sport and they
love doing what they do, I feel like they're down
to become a real good skill of snowboard. I think.
I think it's got to come from with them though.
They've got to have that like real hunger and drive
to become a good skier, and they if they love

(01:04:12):
what they do, there's no holding them back.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
I reckon, did you have love hate relationship? Because a
lot of as I'm a perent of five kids, so
as a perient of five kids, kids want to play
every sport. So did you have a love hate relationship
with the mountain and snow and skiing when you were
a kid or did you just love it from day one?

Speaker 8 (01:04:32):
I just loved it from day one. I didn't really
want do anything else other thank go skiing. Yeah, I
just I just loved dripping around Kajona and trouble coroners.
It's their circus spot.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Why why skis the boards and why boards be skis?

Speaker 8 (01:04:47):
So my brother and I both started off skiing. My
parents both snowboard instructors, so they started off us skiing
because they wanted us to both learn skiing when we
were younger, because like, well it'll be easier for them
to get around on skis when they're like three, right, So,
and then a year or two later they swapped Cam

(01:05:09):
first because it'd be easier for and Cam really wanted
to lunch to snowoard, just to do one at a
time and then can learn how to snowboard. But I
was like already really stoked with skiing, so I just
stayed skiing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Yeah, And why pipes, the slopes, slalom anything else.

Speaker 8 (01:05:29):
Well, I think it's I think it's really important to
be a really well rounded athlete. I mean, you look
at any good athlete from New Zealand, Nico Potius, Jossy Wells,
all the world boys. They've all done ski racing, they've
all done sloat style, and they've all done pipe. Like

(01:05:49):
they just really well rounded athletes. And I think that
that's what makes like New Zealand skis like different from
around the world. I think that they really like to
ski everything and they're really all good at all round skiers.
It means they really exceed in their children discipline, like
whether it's at a high level competition.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Yeah, the one ker thing's magic, isn't it. I mean
that the totally what's happening in your part of the
world is and it's it's too many people now for
it to be ignored. It's incredible.

Speaker 8 (01:06:21):
Yeah, it's It's nuts how many incredible athletes are from
one o'co or live and one o'cle or based in Monica.
I think I think it goes down to like the
Kiwi like mindset, almost like not scared to give it
a go, get out of their comfort zone. And I
always start to go skiing or snowboarding even though it's

(01:06:44):
bad weather.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Yeah, exactly, But hold on, mate, I want to ask
you about Nico, and I also want to talk about
that Snow League World Challenge, so more in myment. Vinn
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Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Zippy Use Talk hib sixteen past day. Finn Milville lives
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Will Challenge coming in September. Are you excited about this?
I assume you often?

Speaker 8 (01:07:12):
Yeah, this is really sick for New Zealand and New
Zealand athletes. It's really cool to see it such a
crazy high level event. First of it's kind to be
hosted at Codrona, so it's really exciting and if anyone's listening,
definitely go watch. It's been fast and it's sick. It's
a really sick event.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
So what's its value? I mean, does it matter who
the teams are and stuff or is it just a
lot of really high executing elite athletes doing cool stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:07:39):
Well, there's four keywis. I actually think Kiwis almost make
up them, like the biggest chunk of like single nation.
So it's like it's a really high level event. It's
invite only and you just go to see the most
incredible high level event throw down in the sport. So

(01:08:00):
it's really crazy and proper intense. I'm really excited. Also
pretty noticed it because.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Well I was going to say, I was going to say,
what is this with a view to it being a
regular event in Wanaka year and year out?

Speaker 8 (01:08:15):
Yeah, yeah, I think I was talking to one of
the managers of the event, and that's their plan. They
want to make it one of the tour stops every
year now. So that's really exciting and that's really sick
for New Zealand and to showcase the crazy level of
talent coming from New Zealand too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
How's it how's it coordinated within the team? Do you
do whatever you want or does the team go we
want you to pull off or whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:08:41):
So there's four athletes in each team. This this event
is kind of like a one off. Normally it's a
single event, but this is the World Challenge, so it's
a new kind of format where it's four athletes together.
So I'm not really sure how it's going to work out,
but I'm pretty excited for it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Right as far as trick, as far as tricks go,
what what's what? What's the current thinking in your sport?
Do you try to hone the developed tricks to the
best of your ability or is there a constant pressure
to do something new?

Speaker 8 (01:09:14):
I mean, there's always a constant pressure to keep keep
the progression of the sport guying. But yeah, so like
you're always I feel like I'm if you're on the
top of the sport, you always got to keep pushing
because to like keep seeing what's possible for the sport.

(01:09:35):
You know, it's pretty scary doing that, but someone's going do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Exactly how does tech help or not help in terms
of the skis. The quality of the technology involved in
all of that is that is that part of the equation.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
Yep.

Speaker 8 (01:09:50):
I have a full time wax tech who it's on
the wax room in Monarca. He waxes my skis every day,
crazy crazy amount of wax layers. So it's called like
hot boxing, and you'll put on heaps of layers of
wax and then you let it on your skis overnight
in a warm room where like and for red lights

(01:10:12):
on the skis and it let's the like wax really
soak into the pause.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (01:10:16):
We also have like video reviews so we can review tricks.
And we also have like height measurements, So you take
the video review and you put it into a calculator
and it calculates the exact amplitude you went out of
the half part.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
I reckon you could look at yourself doing that forever,
couldn't you. I mean that sounds like the best fun
to me.

Speaker 8 (01:10:33):
Yeah, it's pretty fun.

Speaker 14 (01:10:35):
My coaches love it on you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Hey, can you help us out? I mean, the thing,
the last time I thought about you, apart from you
falling over at the Olympics and stuff was Nico Porteus
and this, this is what blows my mind. So in
sport you have a window, right, so you you developed
as a kid, you hit your peak, you go to
a World's, you go to an Olympics, whatever. What's going
on in snowsport that a guy like Nico at the

(01:10:59):
age of whatever he was goes that's me done, thanks
very much. How do you do that? What goes through
your mind at that age to be able to walk
away from what you've lived your whole life.

Speaker 8 (01:11:10):
I don't think he's necessarily walking away. I think he's
just he's just not necessarily competing anymore because there are
so many more aspects to like high performance skiing than
just like high performance commendations. Because he's really he's actually
got a video project coming out, so so he's more
transitioned into like filming movies and like ski like docos.

(01:11:34):
Almost good. So like that's a it's a it's a enough,
it's not anywhere. It's still crazy intense, it's just a
different aspect essentially.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
It's interesting. Mike, go well with us one in September
and and good to meet and chat with you, and
we'll get you on again soon.

Speaker 8 (01:11:52):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 9 (01:11:53):
Cheers.

Speaker 8 (01:11:53):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Nowhere is it all for Melville lives. That is the
Snow League World Challenge, which is coming to Wantaka as
part of the part of the Snow League. I honestly,
I'm just trying to think. I don't have ski so
I don't have someone who wax my skis, but I
mean I need something. I mean, he's got a guy
who waxes his skis. That's all he does. He just goes,

(01:12:17):
have you waxed? Mysky? Come on.

Speaker 5 (01:12:19):
I've always want to be one of those guys who
tunes the guitars and takes the guitar out on stage.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
And then just hands it over. Yeah, that's the guy
I play. You need people like that around you. That's
a sense that I've made it when you've got people
like that, isn't it? Nice?

Speaker 8 (01:12:33):
Guy?

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Eight twenty two.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
I mean, I am here titting your microphone off. I suppose.

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questions of Finn Mike exactly what I wanted to know.
We didn't always get the answers. Perhaps get Nico on
and plug them with some quid. Yes, it's probably worth doing.

(01:13:58):
Don't you have someone who waxes your legs? No, Greg, No,
I don't. Mike needs someone to vacuum as studio. That
is one hundred percent correct. I do. The fact that
after forty five yearsn't broadcasting, and in the position I
find myself that I'm still cleaning up after the pigs
that frequent this radio station every morning fills me with

(01:14:19):
a with a fury and disdain towards others that I
can't truly put into words.

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
So I think the thing is that people think that
they have vacuumed the studio, and then you get in there.
I think that's actually and you fire it up again.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
I think if I went to some people, like, you know,
let's name some names, those who are those clowns in
the afternoon, those clowns in the afternoons, if I went
to the Thing one and Thing too, I think too,
Dumpty do and Dumpty d. So if I went to
them and went, what's this and they go what, I go,
it's a pig star. They go, oh, we just cleaned
it up, wouldn't they we moved that towards the rubbish

(01:14:51):
brig exactly. Anyway, it's enough of my misery and complaints.
I'm going to tell you in this but moment's a way.
I'm assuming he's still on the beach looking at the eclipse,
but we'll find out shortly. News is next.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
You're trust at Home for News, Sport, entertainment, opinion, and
Mike the Mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate one
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Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
B I think I've cracked it, or I might have
been proven right, or a combination of the two. So
one of the things I've been saying about this country
at the moment is that we seem to be in
a funk. The media reports how much of a funk
we're in, how miserable we are, how the confident. Yeah,
all of those stories that have, you know, besieged us
for the last couple of years, and yet when you
look at the actual facts around things like spinning and
the numbers. Just yesterday, a couple of the banks have

(01:15:43):
come up with this spending spinning is materially up, and
so we can't afford anything, and yet we can afford
something so the two have never doubtailed and they have
never made any sense. Anyway. I'm reading some research out
of Australia yesterday, same thing's happening here. There's a big
finance marketing summit on right, So there's a whole bunch
of stuff going on on Australia economically at the moment.
And consumers are miserable, so the sentiment is at literally

(01:16:04):
at recession levels, and they don't have many recessions in Australia,
so that the Australians right now are miserable. They have
never been this was one of the people speaking at
the conference. They have never been more obsessed though with
the economy. Economics is trending last twelve to eighty months
feels like a time when the economy has never been
more important, and it's more front of mind for people.

(01:16:25):
So they are us and we are them. And yet
what's happening with this spending It continues to climb, which
is the same story here. So it appears to me
that that old idea that people shut their wallets up
when they're miserable is no longer true because you can't
have it both ways. You can't be miserable and spending
when the facts tell you what's happening. So it's happening there.

(01:16:48):
It's happening there, I think, is what I've included twenty
two minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
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Mind for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Right enda. Do I find you on a beat steering
vacantly into the sky.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
Now you find me in my house in Oxfordshire, and
we have been staring into the sky and I had
a wonderful interaction. A neighbor of mine, it turns out, randomly,
is into astronomy, and he set up a telescope on
the green out the frontier. I say green, but it's
parched yellow because there's been no rain here for four months.

(01:17:25):
And all the neighbors everyone came out of the houses,
gathered around, and he had some special filter on it
so it was completely safe and we all got to
have a great look at the solar eclipse and it
was beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
It was really really nice as an experience. How would
you write it out of ten ten? I cannot believe
how cool it was. One What a wasted my time.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
Look, I'm on a bit of a downer about space
and astronomy and stuff like that. It does not float
my boat. I would give it six point five out
of ten. However, my daughter has as a UNI mate
and he is on a beach in Spain, and I've
just been looking at pictures he's been sending horror and

(01:18:07):
it looked like the most stunning thing. If you were
on a beach in Spain, perhaps with a few beers
in you, it would probably be quite a celestial experience.
But make no mistake the pictures all over Europe. I
think they got a full eclips in Iceland and in
parts of Spain, so it looks stunning. I mean, look
the morning's newspapers, it'll be the front page picture on

(01:18:29):
all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
We did right so yeah, Greenland, Arsenal, northern Spain I
had as the completed clips. How much did you actually
get in Britain? Was they just a little slice off
the side.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
It was about ninety percent, I think. But you know,
I really admired the photographers who have gone out to
capture these images for the morning's newspapers. Here people down
at Stonehenge, all the kind of big British iconic landmarks.
Someone will have got big ben in the background as well.
You know, yeah, good luck to them, but yeah, it
was a strange experience everywhere, you know. And then then

(01:18:59):
what really I found very interesting was the amount of
dogs that went berserk. English people love their dogs. All
my neighbors seem to have a dog, and dogs were
just absolutely going bananas for about fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Minutes now tomorrow, speaking of bananas, it's collecton. And so
we can say Foraj is gonna win. I guess the
key is you'd be wanting a messive win when you
wanting to shatter records.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
Yeah, but what kind of a win is it? Yeah,
that's the question I would ask. So it's him up
against count bin Face. There are thirty odd other independent
candidates as well, but all the polling suggests Forag is
going to hit seventy seven zero percent. Bin Face will
get twenty odd percent. And I think that that in
itself is embarrassing. Nigel Farag fancies himself as the next

(01:19:45):
Prime minister and he spent the last few weeks campaigning
against the bin I mean, it's not a good look.
And the really worrying thing is he has two Parliamentary
standards investigations coming his way. If they find against him,
he could end up having to resign again, and then
we go through this rigmarole all over again, and you

(01:20:07):
just think, you know, this is costing four hundred thousand
dollars a pop to have a by election and the
country's on its knees financially.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
The Manchester about the other day had a turn out
of twenty five percent. Will that be something similar tomorrow?

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
Look, it's a heat wave. It's going to be pushing
thirty eight celsius tomorrow. I think the good people have
clacton a lot of them. I think will be down
the beach having beers, staying in, staying cool. And I
think the prospect of going to cast your vaute for
whether it's Forage or an independent or a count binface
will be very very far away from people's priorities in

(01:20:43):
the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Right. I've got several questions on Burnham's road tour at
the moment. Firstly, this business of the asylum seecause when
he starts to talk about, look there's bits of middle England,
wealthier England where we can pack a few of these people.
I mean, that's one brain for him. I guess how
politically does it play and how's he going to get
it through.

Speaker 4 (01:21:02):
It plays very badly politically, and this is a situation where,
let's be honest here, the most disadvantaged areas of Britain
have been finding themselves with all these people being dumped
on them, and that has been happening for several years now.
Burnham has come out this week because a tiny village
here in Oxfordshire where I live, called Piddington, tiny little place,

(01:21:25):
they've recently been told that a disused military barracks up
the road is now going to be home to twelve
hundred and fifty single undocumented men. And not surprisingly, the
people of Piddington don't want this, and they've actually done
a formal symbolic vote to secede from the United Kingdom
that that is not possible, but that's the level of

(01:21:47):
anger in that village. Burnam has come out and said
that everyone must take refugees and asylum seekers and that
affluent areas should be prepared to pull their weight as well.
It's not going to go down very well with voters no.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
And part of his duvolution thing, he's looking to give
counsel more powers over vape shops and shops in general
and rules and regulations are those sort of ideas of
his Are they doable?

Speaker 9 (01:22:13):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Is that a stroke of a pen decision or a
cabinet decision or religislative decision, and will weigh of a heaven?

Speaker 4 (01:22:21):
It can be done. I think what he's trying to
do mostly is give mayors the money and trust the
mayors in these big regional cities to spend the money wisely,
because they will know a lot more about what's needed
in their area than some civil servants in London who
live in London and don't leave London. So I admire
what he's trying to do. It can be done, but

(01:22:41):
there will be serious kickback from civil servants in London.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
And the barbecue thing is is that control freaky or
is it?

Speaker 9 (01:22:49):
Look?

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
You know how dry it is? Don't be an idiot.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
Well, look, unfortunately we have a lot of idiots and
we have a lot of wildfires. And I think it's
one measure that the Fire Service at this Cobra meeting
today an emergency meeting on the climate. We've got thirty
eight celsius coming here in the morning. I'm heading into
London on the tube. I will be wearing shorts and
a very light weight running top and that's what I'm

(01:23:13):
gonna wear all day until I go into the studio
and have to wear a suit. I think Burnham is
listening to the people who have experience of this, and
firefighters are saying, look, get rid of these disposable barbecues
because idiots are just sparking them up wherever leaving them
and guess what happens. Whole areas of bush are going
up in flames.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Go well, make ca ketch up. So I appreciate it
very much. Into Bridie out of Britain this morning. By
a way, officially, seventy one point three percent of England.
England is now in draft draft July sin eineteen thirty six,
which is when they started, you know, taking records East Midlands, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire, Kent, Sussex, Solent,
South Downs. They move into draft status to join the

(01:23:52):
rest of the place. Basically out forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
I know in England, just before we leave there, they're
are going to set attendance targets. Isn't that ironic? So
they've obviously looked at this country and seen our success
in that particular department at schools and said we'll do
the same there because they've had the same problem post
COVID that we had. They also have what they're calling
a pounds per pylons program, so they're rectifying a lot
of old pylons and when they put the new ones in,

(01:24:23):
if it happens to turn up at a house near you,
they will give you a turn and fifty pounds a
year discount on your power, which I wouldn't have thought
was a lot. There's forty three transmission projects up and
down Britain at the moment. The critics, of course argue
that turn of fifty quid's nothing, and suddenly you're living
next to a pylon with all its various issues, whether
they be real or not. Mike, I in a retail

(01:24:43):
store and a part of a group of retailers. Most
of the store has been going for ten plus year,
so we're not bad operators. The last three months have
been terrible sales wise, so I'm finding it hard to
believe that spending is up. See that's the interesting things.
It's you can't argue with the fact because I mean,
the numbers that come from the banks are electronic transactions.
I mean, they didn't make them up. They're literal things

(01:25:05):
that happened. And so I mean, if you're struggling at
the moment, I feel bad for you, and anyone who'
struggle at the moment I feel bad for obviously. But
you know, it's the anecdotal versus the factual, and you
can't ignore the factual. Mike, Sorry, you're wrong about the
spending reflecting a moving economy. It shows there are two
groups and that you're right, one hundred percent right. There's
no question there's a two tiered economy in this country

(01:25:27):
and most Western economies around the world at the moment,
those that are still able to travel and spend, and
then there's most of the rest. Well, I don't think
it's most of the rest, but there's a chunk obviously
that are struggling. I think that's probably the truth of it.
Are there people doing fine, thank you very much. Yes,
are there people who are struggling. Yes. Are the percentage
of people struggling a little bit higher currently than they
might have historically been. Probably hence it becomes more of

(01:25:50):
a talking point. But once again, I do reiterate that
It's interesting that both in Australia and in New Zealand
you could argue that we're miserable and yet we're not
miserable enough not to say spend. But the traditional correlation
between misery is no spending, and yet it doesn't appear
to be true. Ten away from nine the.

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a very good point, Mike. So the number showing a
seventy percent increase in business liquidations is wrong. I don't

(01:27:14):
know if it's seventy percent or is that you don't
want to talk about. No, it's a very good point
you make, and I have been looking into that, and
I haven't had time this week because of events obviously,
But there is a reason for that. And it's not
automatically as your text infers connected to the economy. Now.
It is connected to the economy as it was so,

(01:27:35):
and it ties in with the IID and their attitude
to taxation in general. But anyway, we'll come back that
to that tomorrow. Five minutes away from nine.

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Seems like a kid got high and he walked into
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Case closed.

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Both.

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You're not a cop.

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What's recon?

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Where it was?

Speaker 8 (01:28:25):
Behind?

Speaker 5 (01:28:25):
This isn't afraid to kill people?

Speaker 11 (01:28:27):
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I'm really good at this coming.

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Is that one spin off too many? It's like that,
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But the what was the one I watched with the
woman I didn't like in the Prairie chasing a husband
who's dead? Whatever? That one was medisine So.

Speaker 5 (01:28:56):
You think, yep, did you watch that in around Yeah, no,
of course not. But that's great.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
No, it's once been off too many.

Speaker 5 (01:29:02):
No se he sort of unspun it back to that.

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Speaker 8 (01:29:09):
Who?

Speaker 9 (01:29:10):
Is she? A thing?

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
While she was in Reacher?

Speaker 8 (01:29:13):
Was she?

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
And in Nearly So things are going well for her. Richon,
who is also Reacher, will make appearances as Reacher in
Nearly So he gets more work. So that's good. What
sort of deal would you cut on that giving you
the same character? I do a per rep deal.

Speaker 5 (01:29:30):
I often wonder about that, and I also wonder, you know,
when somebody gets killed in a TV show and yet
at the beginning of each episode they show that person
from before when they got killed, do they still get it?

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
That's the back end? Yeah, exactly. It's out on Prime
Video the sixteenth of September. Reach is also trending because
they've just dropped the first three episodes of season four
wherever they drop those on Prime as well as it's
all on Prime. Everything's on Prime. There's a day bill jeez,
which is just as well because there's not another coupe today.

Speaker 5 (01:30:04):
So yeah, it's still early a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
Anyway back tomorrow morning from six as always a few.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
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