Full Show Podcast: 15 May 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's no fluff, just facts and fierce debate.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
The Mic Hosking breakfast with Defender embraced the impossible news
talks had been bulling.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
You're welcome today. Day one in Beijing has an uh
big feel about it. In New Zealand's Boss on job
cuts and big losses, Dave Rennie is in for a
word about winning this morning, Tim and Katie After eight,
of course, Richard Arnold Stateside Murray olds, he's always awesome.
Lasky seven past six. Welcome to the day. Is Chrishipkins
missing a gene or does he have a self destructive

(00:28):
pred election or is he just a pillock by nature?
So he rolls into Auckland yesterday to tell the nation's
biggest city in engine room in election year that she's
all good. Everyone's moved on from lockdowns, his lockdowns, the
home handy man from the hut telling Auckland what's what?
What an arrogant twat. He was in Auckland to build rapport,
to patch up the damage, to scope the joint, to
see what sort of changes party is more chances party

(00:51):
has got come November love or hate. Auckland elections are
won and lost in the city. Of course, no one
gets to government without a good day in Auckland. Even
for a small country, it's true to say there are
countries within countries, or cultures and vibes within cultures and vibes.
It took me a while, for example, to get a
grip on Wellington before I move there. It's different to
christ Church, it's different to Dunedin, and Auckland is different
to each of the other urban centers. Chris Bishop, i think,

(01:14):
has found that out by suggesting the two million home debarcle.
He's from Wellington as well. If you're too entrenched in Wellington,
you don't get Auckland. Hipkin suggested that the only people
who ever ask him about Lockdown these days is z B.
Two things there, one that's not true, and yesterday was
an example given the person who asked him wasn't from
zed B, and two ZEDB is the biggest game in Auckland,

(01:34):
and by a long way dismissing the biggest radio player
in Auckland, and indeed the country is about as stupid
as saying Auckland as have moved on from Lockdown. Ultimately,
it's another example of why I've said all year that
this election is over before it even starts. Labor will
not win. The pain, suffering and incompetence of twenty twenty
through twenty twenty three is still too raw, real and

(01:56):
recent to forgive and forget. And making it worse is
the fact that the very same people who did the
damage are still there waiting for another crack and judging
by yesterday, they've learned nothing, want to learn nothing, or
as arrogance as last time. And Hipkins may well realize
that come election night, win he loses and inevitably has
to resign. Given he will have lost twice.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
He's unfolding at pace in Downing Street. Yes, Straighting has quit.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
What we've seen today is a brave and principal decision.
Bys He is a great and huge talent in our party,
has been a great asset to the government, has made
incredible an incredible transformation to our NHS, but has taken
the principal decision to leave the government to say what
we're doing is not good enough.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
But he is the twist. He most likely isn't the
black who's going to run against Dharma? Could it be
Angela Rainer?

Speaker 5 (02:50):
I want to deliver as part of the team. And
I've always said that it is a team effort. It's
not one person, it's not a presidential situation. We all
have to pull together to deliver.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
That to like the team, because that the team does
have to have a leader.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
We do have to have believe that. And we've got
a leader. And I'm not going to go into hypotheticals,
but we have to do better. I know.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
See, it isn't Angel. It's probably despite the fact she
got cleared by the way yesterday for a texture issues
around houses. No, no, no, it's going to be Andy Burnham.
How is it possible, you ask, Well, I have more
shortly because this is literally unfolding as we speak. Meantime
in China. Day one gone well, and yes, the Strait
got talked about president.

Speaker 7 (03:26):
She would like to see a deal man. Who would
like to see a deal man? And oh he did offer.
He said, if I can be of any help at all,
I would like to be of help. He'd like to
see the hormost straight open, he said, if I could
be of any help, whatso, I would.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Like to help Scott from the Treasury put a little
US spin on matters.

Speaker 8 (03:45):
I think They're going to do it, do what they can.
China has a much bigger interest in reopening the straight
than the US does. China gets about a third of
its energy needs. They are from the.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Golf, correct, but she pose the biggest overranching question.

Speaker 9 (04:02):
The world has reached a new crossroads.

Speaker 10 (04:05):
Whether China and the United States can overcome the so
called Lucinides trap and create a new paradigm of great
power relations, Whether we can work together to address global
challenges and inject more stability into the world.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
We'll get you to beajing just after seven o'clock. Fascinating
old world News of the world in nineteen I'll get
back to Britain in just a minute because it requires
a little bit of explanation. Wash though quickly. If you
missed it yesterday, Kevin Trump's man for the feed. He
got through fifty four forty five. That was long party lines.
Of course, good news for Stamer and God he needs some,
doesn't he. The gdpaprint came out overnight zero point six percent,

(04:43):
which is fairly enemic, but nevertheless it is grow zero
point six percent GDP for the first quarter. It's eleven
past six.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
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Speaker 1 (04:57):
How if my news talk Zippy.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Just being reported that Starma or the committee at least
will not be blocking Burnham this time around to stand
in the by election. So that's just unfolding as we speak. Cuba,
by the ways, just announce that they've got no energy left. Basically,
they've got a small amount of natural gas that they
that's theirs. But as far as the rest of it
are critical, it's all gone. There is no petrol, there
is no oil, and things are quote unquote extremely tense.

(05:24):
Fifteen past six, your partners, Andrew kellaher morning. Now what
do we make of the migration numbers? Twenty four to
two full seven? So we've got some growth that ain't
what it was?

Speaker 11 (05:38):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Now? Apparently he's fallen off. The Stamford, I can tell
you though, has had a very good result. We'll get
that out of the way before we find Andrew. Twenty
four point six percent up, So Sandford are good. So
that's a good local story, Cisco. If you want to
talk internationally as far as the market's off to the
races this morning, the American markets are off to the races, Cisco,
better than expected report New networking, which isn't routers. They're

(06:01):
all about AI and computers and competition. Their revenue fifteen
point eight four billion, so they're going very nicely, thank you. Yeah,
let me while I've got a moment, just let me
give you the story on Burnham. So we've got a
by election. This is how it works, and we've explained
it several times this week so far. But Andy Burnham
is not an MP, so he's the one who will
make a difference. Allegedly, according to Rod little Off, there's

(06:22):
one person who can make a difference in the Labor
Party and might well justify getting rid of Starma. It
is Andy Burnham. He was blocked from a by election.
This time he won't be Markfield is the electorate. It's
in the north of England. It's been held by Labour
since nineteen oh six. But the modeling this morning, given
the reform story, is that even in a by election,

(06:45):
Burnham may not win it. So in five weeks they
have a by election, Burnham doesn't win it, then where
are they? You can't make this up. It is a mess,
beyond a mess, beyond a mess. Right, we fixed whatever
was broken? Andrew? How are you? I'm very well, thanks, Mike,
twenty four to two four seven. So what do we
make out of those migration numbers?

Speaker 11 (07:06):
Yeah, it's been a topic, hasn't it recently? But you've
got to remember that migration has been a sort of
mainstay of our economic performance and that Look, there's some
interesting changes in the numbers. On a positive note, a
few New Zealanders are leaving, and what I would say
is these migration numbers are slowly moving back towards what
I would look call sort of longer term averages. Look,
there was a bunch of downward revisions to previous release data.

(07:30):
That's one of the features of migration data and always
will be three hundred and seventy people. That's the March number,
and your migration twenty four thousand or just over twenty
four thousand. You go back a year, Mike, that was
fourteen thousand. So there's a trend in place. We're definitely
seeing a trend. And why is it lifting. It's lifting
because there's a reduction in the number of New Zealanders leaving,

(07:51):
which sort of I don't know what you think. That
anecdotally sort of feels right, doesn't it. There's less people
going arrivals are saying pretty constant. Ten year average for
permanent long term migration is forty nine thousand, so we're
somewhere beneath that. But if you take a longer period
and you go back and include the early two thousands,
that average sits at the thirty one thousand, and if

(08:11):
you sort of annualize the last few months, so you
look at the current trend, we're pretty much there. So
we're pretty much getting back to what's the sort of
a normalized situation. If you look at the source of migrants,
still very much an Asian focused China, Philippines, India, Sri Lanka.
The China numbers look robust. They lifted for the twelve
months versus the twelve months to March twenty five. Those

(08:33):
other countries sort of tailing off a little bit. It's
kind of hard to get a handle on sort of
what the impact of the Middle East conflict is going
to be on migration. I mean, I think this global
uncertainty could help kiwis here, but traditionally our employment market
that's been a factor. It's not very strong at the moment.
Confidence is low, but you know, it feels like we
are a safe port in the turbulent world. Yet the

(08:56):
bottom line, though, is we're moving back to a more
sort of normal migration situation. They button like, what we
do have to do is look at the tourism numbers,
because I think they look pretty good. It's one of
the big tailwinds for our economy. What agri and tourism's
coming back. It's going well, three point one three million
visits arrivals. That's three hundred thousand more than March twenty five,

(09:17):
So March twenty six where ninety five percent ish back
to pre COVID. So I think that looks pretty good.
Still dominated by tourists from from Ozzie in the US, though.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
I don't care where they come from as long as
they spend. How she's flat. Those sales are down, I
mean some point nine is significant. That's material, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (09:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (09:35):
Look, look, we've got to try and find a positive
takens on these numbers. At the moment. What I would
say here, Mike, it's still a great market for first
home buyers. Yet, look it looks quite subdued as a
good descriptive. Sales a year and a year down seven
point nine percent. Look, there is month on month volatility there,
but longer term sales are down. House price index prices
down zero point nine percent year on year. They're sixteen

(09:57):
percent below the peak. Of course, your factor in inflation,
that's a bigger number. The hot spot though, Mike, Southland
taking the lead, prices up eight percent year and you've
got to be in south Land at the moment it's
leaving Canterbury behind. It's only up three percent. Aukland Wellington
still look kind of soft, down two point eight two
point five percent respectively. Look I would say though that

(10:18):
that house price index it's stabilized in recent months, so
I don't.

Speaker 9 (10:21):
Think it's getting any worse. Lots of regional.

Speaker 11 (10:23):
Variation in the numbers. You know, those Auckland sales were
down almost fifteen percent outside of uband down around five percent,
so quite strong regional variation. Mike, inventory is still very high.
I think if you sort of take a step back
and you say, well, interest rates they're not going down.
Unemployment while it's higher than it has been, got an
election coming, you got weak consumer confidence. I don't think

(10:46):
we're going to see much in whale house price growth
this year. I think we've got to wait. We got
to wait it's not happening just yet.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
I need some numbers, sure, the.

Speaker 11 (10:55):
Dal Jones check this out over fifty fifty one hundred
and four up f one hundred and ten points point
eighteen percent, the S and P five hundred up point
six two percent, forty seven points seven four nine one
and the NASDAC up two hundred and thirty nine points
point nine percent. Twenty six thousand, six hundred and thirty
nine the FOOTE one hundred night. They don't care about
the election. They are up half percent. The Politics ten thousand,

(11:18):
three hundred and seventy two, the nick A down six
hundred and eighteen sixty two sixty five four. The mark
there they were down one percent. The Shanghai Composite lost
one and a half percent four one seven seven. GOS
has gained ten points eight six four o six fifty
down point two nine percent. Is though, Mike, thirty zeroy
twenty five one kiwi dollar. It's weaker against the US

(11:39):
point five nine one nine, weaker against the ODS each
point eight one nine one point five or six seven
against the Euro. But you might be interested in this, Mike.
It's up against the pounder point four four one two.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
Just getting better every Midday.

Speaker 11 (11:54):
Ninety three point sixty three javen GM Gold four thousand,
six hundred and seventy nine dollars in brient Rude still
holding up one hundred and five dollars and eighty eight cents.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
You have the best of weekends, Andrew callaher Sure and
Partner's six twenty.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
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Speaker 3 (12:13):
It'd be yeah, just to wind the Makefield thing up
and the Starma thing. So the out of the local elections,
the Britain Predicts got a swing away from labor of
twenty percent to reform thirteen and a half percent, which
means reform would end up with forty one percent of
vote labor twenty eight percent of the vote. Although that
doesn't That was the other day, and I can't help
but think that the mood, the vibe, might, the impetus

(12:36):
might be slightly different given the special one off nature
of this, but that's the way it plays anyway. So
Andy Burnham is no shoe at six twenty five.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
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Speaker 3 (12:51):
You've missed the football news as in the World Cup.
They're gone all super Bowl this morning halftime show for
the first time ever, curated by Chris Martin, no less
focus is going to be on raising one hundred million
for the fief for fund that helps kids get into education.
So with that in mind, Martin's joined up with the Muppets.

Speaker 12 (13:07):
Fucking am I tho.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Oh Ama, Nurse mister Christmas some singing lessons round?

Speaker 13 (13:11):
Well, I definitely need some singing lessons from you, and
I'd love that. But what I'd really like to ask
is if you could help try and find some giant
stars to be part of the show.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
How about Madonna? Yeah, Hella loves Mardonna.

Speaker 13 (13:22):
That is a fantastic idea.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
What about BTS buttering me favorite song and cookie ingredient.

Speaker 13 (13:31):
That's a brilliant idea. The other thing is how do
we get hold of BTS? Wait, who's on the phone?

Speaker 1 (13:36):
BTS and a mind speeding Chris for.

Speaker 13 (13:40):
Sure, Thank you, thank you so much. Okay, okay, okay, okay,
we just need one more big star.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Did someone say big star?

Speaker 14 (13:48):
I'd be happy to.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
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Speaker 4 (13:53):
Obviously, this whole show is gonna be aboton me good grief, absolutely.

Speaker 9 (14:01):
Animal animal what.

Speaker 13 (14:03):
Shakira I mean we can dream Shakira the residence?

Speaker 9 (14:08):
Wow, howkie Kira hawky.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
For purists, a little bit of ankst around this. The
break's going to be thirty minutes to accommodate all of that.
Normally the broken football, of course, is fifteen minutes.

Speaker 9 (14:19):
Just before I.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Leave the UK. They're lining up four thousand police officers
this week in couple of protests on one's the usual
you know, Israel v Palestine thing. The others the FA
Cup final, one of the largest protest deployments in decades.
Far right demonstrators will be out, football fans will be out.
First authorization of live facial recognition cameras at demonstrations. Armored

(14:40):
vehicles are on standby. Sounds like an awesome weekend in London,
doesn't it? I bloody hell. That's a troubled country at
the moment. Erica Stanford, we got a back down on
the education the curriculum reforms. This deals with science and
social sciences. Unions are calling it a big win. If
you love your rugby Dave Reni's your man. He's with us.
After seventh clear of you this morning, meantime, the.

Speaker 9 (15:03):
News is next.

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Speaker 3 (15:14):
Two of the book Summit across Richard Arnold State signed
for us, and we'll get to Jonathan Keasley on the
ground of Beijing very orchestrated yesterday. I'd be interesting somebody
like Jonathan how much movement? How many questions he actually
got to ask him? The Chinese are running the thing,
but that's still to come back here at twenty three
to seven change of plans around education, so science and
social science changes in that school curriculum are not now

(15:35):
going to be mandatory until twenty twenty nine, which is
two years later than planned. So what happened here? Erica Stamford,
Education Minister back with us morning, Good morning mate. The
unions are claiming it's unworkable, threatened quality they win. Is
that how it plays?

Speaker 14 (15:50):
If I listened to the unions, we wouldn't have done
any of these reforms. In fact, we'd still be teaching
children how to read by looking at the picture and
guessing the word. You haven't got it quite right there
in your intro. We own to be rephasing again. We've
already rephased once before. We're going to be rephasing slightly
to introduce social science and science from next year for

(16:10):
two years, giving ourselves two years to implement those well
with fidelity, and then everything else will come in twenty
twenty nine. So those are the arts and the technology
and health and PA and the like. So I've been
on the ground listening to the profession for the last
few months, especially the Auckland Primary Principles who went out
and surveyed all of their members last year for me

(16:32):
and provided really good feedback. So I asked the Ministry
for advice earlier this year. I received it in early
early April, but wanting to back our teachers to make
sure that we get the phasing right right.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
So, what's specifically different or unusual about science and social
science that you're going to now do it differently from
what you one thought you were going to do. And
two other subjects, well.

Speaker 14 (16:57):
We already have prioritized certain subjects, so obviously literacy and
numerousy so English and maths were first out of the blocks.
And you'll remember we bought maths forward slightly because of
the results. Science is a corese subject, as you know,
required all the way through right up until year ten,
and we'll be making some announcements about science next week.

(17:18):
Social science. The reason that social science is the one
that you would prioritize, and this is part of the
feedback from the profession as well, is that it's massively
knowledge rich. So you've got lots of strands in their
world history, New Zealand, history, geography, civics, and society. Financial
literacy and knowledge is so important for young people and

(17:40):
their critical thinking and importantly their comprehension of what they're reading.
So a really knowledge rich topic was important to prioritize.
But I've been dealing very closely with the local Principles
associations and ran this through them to make sure that
this sort of rephasing was right and we've got this
subjects in the right way.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Okay, does this stick? Because twenty twenty nine for mandatory
it's two elections away, you may not even be there.

Speaker 14 (18:08):
The social science in science will be gazetted for use
from next year, so they'll be required. Those are the
ones in twenty twenty nine. Yep, they will be after
this election of course, I still plan to be the
Minister of Education, Mike, because it's really important to me
that we get these reforms through. Parents are already saying

(18:29):
to me they'll stop being the street, and they're like,
we are noticing a difference. They are saying what I'm
seeing in the early results, and that achievement is improving.
We are turning results around and we can't afford to
change tack and go back to you know, let's guess
the word by looking at the picture.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
No. Two quick things. Immigration twenty four ish thousand? Is
this egy or at twenty four thousand? Are we a
little bit settled on this? And is it going to
be an election issue? Do you think.

Speaker 14 (19:00):
We're up to twenty seven thousand. It's an increased slide.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
It's not one hundred and thirty, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (19:04):
No, no, no, no, But it's still lower than that
the March rolling average over the last twenty years a week.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
I'm just trying to work out what's going on with
lux and then as social cohesion and Seymour and Peters
and you know, I'm just I'm not interested in bitching
about immigration between now and Noven.

Speaker 9 (19:22):
But that's all neither am I.

Speaker 14 (19:24):
As you know, I thought that the Prime Minister laid
out a really good clear position, which is, actually, migrants
are incredibly important to our economy and our social fabric,
but also we need to make sure that we're maintaining
a social license. And as I spoke to you about,
I think a week or so ago, labor really put
a strain on that social license by the IRV twenty

(19:47):
one program and the mass immigration one hundred and thirty
five thousand, and we need to make sure we've got
a good.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
Balance that we're putting Kiwi's.

Speaker 14 (19:55):
First full jobs while also making sure that businesses have
access to the skills that they need, that we're getting
the right skills to build a productive economy. That's what
we have been doing for two years, and the Prime
Minister was laying out exactly that position. A smart immigration
system that works for New Zealand, that gets that balance
right to make sure that we maintain the social license.

(20:17):
And it shouldn't be an election issue because we do
not have the same issues that they're seeing overseas because
of what we've done over the last two years.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
All right, yeah, a good week. I appreciate it. Erica
Stanford in education and immigration. As it turns out, Richard's
next eighteen too.

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Speaker 9 (22:03):
Good.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
So your summation of day one.

Speaker 15 (22:06):
The first official US read out of day one has
been concerning the Iron War. There's no direct mention of
Taiwan by the American side. Taiwan, of course, is what
China's leader pointed to straight off China's she warning publicly
the differences over Taiwan could lead to conflict, perhaps even
military conflict. He said quote if handled poorly, the two
countries will collide or even clash, putting the entire US

(22:28):
China relationship in an extremely dangerous situation, where Marco Rubio,
the US Secretary of State has responded.

Speaker 16 (22:34):
Paulsy on the issue of Taiwan is unchanged as of
today and as of the meeting that we had here today,
it was raised.

Speaker 9 (22:40):
They always raise it on their side.

Speaker 16 (22:42):
We always make clear our position and we move on
to the other topics.

Speaker 15 (22:45):
It's the US approach that they call strategic ambiguity. Would
the US help Taiwan militarily if China invades is left unclear.
Former Biden National Security advisor Jake Sullivan says technology is
a key part of this whole Taiwan equation.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
It produces more than ninety percent of the most advanced
semiconductors that power the global economy, the power the American economy,
the power the ai revolution, and if.

Speaker 17 (23:11):
China were to take military action against Taiwan or otherwise
strike or strangle Taiwan, this would have a major impact.

Speaker 15 (23:21):
Big issue behind the public warnings and the flag waving
Chinese school kids was the oil situation. More than half
of China's oil imports come through the Middle East, was
about half typically going through the namplicated Straight of Hormuz.
Trump saying of his discussions with She on this particular point.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
He did offer.

Speaker 7 (23:38):
He said, if I can be of any help at all,
I would like to be a help. He'd like to
see the hormost straight open.

Speaker 15 (23:45):
Just what pressure China might apply unclear. The US is
also it agrees that around should not have a nuclear weapon,
and Trump says the Chinese say they will not provide
military equipment to Iran, and yet drone and missile technology
has been a key concern in recent days as we don't.
Meantime trade is another big issue. Trump's saying now.

Speaker 7 (24:03):
One thing he agreed to today is going to order two
hundred jets.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
That's a big thing.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Boeing two hundred big ones.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
That's a lot of Jobs's boweing one at one hundred
and fifty, you got two hundred.

Speaker 15 (24:14):
Meantime, Just a word on the atmosphere, because a few
years back, Trump would say things about China and President She,
accusing them of raping and ripping off the United States. Well, today,
mister mate.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Such respect for China.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
You're a great leader.

Speaker 7 (24:29):
Sometimes people don't like me saying it, but I say
it anyway because it's true.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
I only say the truth.

Speaker 15 (24:34):
Right, politicians never lie.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, good week, kend I appreciate it. Jonathan Keasley's on
the ground of Beijingi's with Historically after seven o'clock, I
told you about the Chinese mayor of Acadia in California.
Yesterday they found another one, this time in New York.
More shortly tend to.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
The Mic Hosking breakfast with Defender News Talks.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
There'd be so for every story like this, it just
reinforces that idea that you know, the people are going,
we got to watch those Chinese. They're probably right. So
the mirror of Arcadia out in California, she's sprung. She's
charged with a whole bunch of anti American stuff. She
pleads guilty.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
Yesterday.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
That's yesterday's story. Meantime, in New York, a jury has
found a guy called lu xuang Wang who's sixty four guilty.
He opened and operated a police station in Chinatown and Manhattan,
and he did this in early twenty twenty two. He's
working for the Chinese Ministry of Public Security. He has
been found guilty of charges of acting as an illegal

(25:29):
agent of the government of China in connection with the station,
and obstruction of justice for destroying related evidence. So he's
been in court. Obviously, in New York he was known
as Harry Lu. He's been sentenced to thirty years in prison.
New York City's targeting PRC dissidents and the Chinese government agenda.
At least one hundred such stations. These are police stations,

(25:52):
just little police stations across the country. One hundred such
police stations have been reported across fifty three countries all
over the world, basically accusing China of using outposts to
threaten and monitor Chinese national nationals abroad. So they get
a guy like Harry. He opens up a police station
in the middle of Manhattan. Nobody looks twice until the

(26:13):
feeds come along and have a look at it and
find he's working for China. The other weird thing I
read about this is why I don't blame Trump for
a minute for taking the free plane. Remember Qatar offered
in the free plane, the Air Force one on the
way to China touchdown in Alaska for a refuel. So
it went from Washington to Alaska to refuel. They're on
the ground for three and a half hours. Are going

(26:33):
to do the same thing on the way back home. Tomorrow.
They're on the ground for three and a half hours
in Alaska. He doesn't get off. Trump doesn't get normally
he gets off. He didn't get off this time. What's
the President of the United States of America doing with
a plane that can't go from Washington to China in
a single leap? And I thought you can go from
anywhere to anywhere basically almost and you certainly should be
able to go from Washington to Beijing in one go.

(26:54):
And you can because he had China run a service
out of Washington on a regular basis directivasion. But no,
Trump's got a plane that has to park itself in
Alaska for three and a half hours. Is that weird?
Or is that weird? Five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 3 (27:15):
Investor confidence here local in New Zealand, investor confidence is
going in the direction that you thought it might be.
This is well, that's what a closed waterway does basically
for your confidence. This is the ASB Confidence Survey for
Q one jen Febn March, which includes, of course, the
first month of Epic Fury. It looks at whether we
think the New Zealand market is a wise investment choice.
Not many of us thought so. Our confidence fell to

(27:37):
six percent, down from eleven and Q four of last year.
Six percent thought the return on their investment would get
better in Q one, so six percent weren't paying attention
or they didn't have a clue. The young'ins the most
confident among us. Under thirties net confidence went up from
sixteen to twenty one. That's ironic, isn't it can give
me anything else? You ask them, They're miserable as all heck,

(27:59):
but on the investment they think they're backing something good. Anyway,
confidence dropped and all the other age groups similar situation
with Kiwisaver. It went up from sixteen to twenty three
for the under thirties, but down in all other age groups.
In terms of what we think are the best investments,
the top choice is still you got it. Kiwi Saver
and our House both were still only picked by a

(28:20):
sixteen percent of us, which continues the trend of lower
confidence in our own house turning a propit. You only
have to look at the housing market to understand that.
Having said that, there is a discussion to be had,
and we'll probably have it next week with Christopher Luxem
not that he will necessarily confirm it. But there's a
bit of a buzz around the place at the moment
that there might be something in the budget around the Superfund.

(28:42):
So what I understand to be happening is that there.
I don't know how they run it, because I thought
the super Fund was independent, But the feel seems to
be that you might want to cajole or twist an
arm or to or direct the super Fund to put
a bit more money into some local projects. Now, there
are lots of people who argue that there is money
out there and if you put it into local projects,

(29:02):
infrastructure projects, all that sort of stuff, there's a return
to be had. So I'm not arguing against that, But
the Superfund is in charge of getting the best return
for their money within the auspices of the general rules.
You don't want to invest in a lot of bombs
and nuclear weaponry and all that other angsty stuff. You
want to invest in stuff that gives a return. Now,

(29:23):
if it happens to be in New Zealand, fantastic, But
what's the government doing going? Oh, you might want to
look at that motorway over there. What's that about? So
I don't know where the government wants to go on
that before the budget, but we'll see. Anyway, we're on
the ground of Beijing in a couple of moments. In
New Zealand they've got this ongoing issue of losing quite
a lot of money and Dave Rennie are the new

(29:46):
all black coaches. Where this after seventh thirty you will
still to come to this Friday morning. You're a news stork,
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Speaker 1 (29:52):
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Speaker 3 (30:00):
Tog said, seven past seven to Day one in Beijing
seems to have gone well. The door says she is
going to be opened wide a Taiwan looks as tough
or as iggy as ever. Jonathan Keasley, as this guy
News Australia US, corresponded, he's in Beijing and it's with
us in the early hours. Jonathan, morning to you.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
And the good morning to you Mike and all your listeners.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Day one went well, yeah, Day one did.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
On the surface. I mean this was all about praise, pomp,
pageantry from both sides. Really, you had this lavish ceremony
filled with Chinese protocol that President She put on for
Donald Trump as he arrived at the Great Hall of
the People, and that hospitality extended right through to a

(30:48):
lavish banquet held in that same very venue that night,
filled with a menu of Beijing duck fruit and ice cream.
As the pair essentially heaped praise on each other, Donald
Trump talk about President She as a great leader, a
good leader, and President She using the language of Donald

(31:08):
Trump himself by insisting he was making America great again.
This was a very warm on the surface meeting between
these two leaders, but you didn't have to scratch far
to find where the tensions actually lie. Because these are
two leaders of the most strategic adversaries you can find

(31:28):
pretty much anywhere in the world, the two biggest superpowers
that America's own National Defense strategy has warned about the
significant challenges that the US faces with China, and MARKA. Rubia,
the Secretary of State, was saying this just a matter
of yesterday and Taiwan became the real sort of flashpoints.
I mean the language, perhaps I'm surprising from President She

(31:50):
warning that if there is a mishandling of the issue,
that it could lead to clashes or conflict. He has
said this before, not just about you know, the United States,
but others, but particularly making this a direct message to
the US President in the room, it was fundamentally clear
what he was trying to do here. We are expected

(32:10):
to hear from President Trump on the aspect of Taiwan.
We're told in the coming days he's going to publicly
respond to that. That's according to his Treasury Secretary Scott Vessons.
So we still don't know exactly what President Trump said
in response. But I think what was interesting looking at
the readouts of these two meetings from the White House
in both the Chinese side, is that China didn't mention

(32:34):
Iran at all.

Speaker 11 (32:36):
Washington did.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
Beijing mentioned Taiwan a lot, Washington didn't touch on it.
So still you have these two leaders with great, big,
vast differences. So on the surface, yes, everything might have
appeared friendly yesterday, the host being nice to the guest
and the guest being nice to the host, and now
there's an offer of a return visit to the White

(32:59):
House four September. But I think you'll still find that
these are two strong, power playing individuals who have vast
differences in what they want and how they're going to get.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
It nicely summarized. How much of this is preordained when
Cook and Musk and business side of the equation get
back on Air Force one, how much is this already
signed up?

Speaker 6 (33:23):
Oh? Look, I think that a lot of the work
had already gone into play. I mean they've been a
sort of you'd heard President Trump's language shift over the
course of the last little while. I mean you go
back to Trump administration one point, oh, and he was
talking about, you know, coronavirus is the China virus and
all this sort of stuff. But his language in the
last couple of weeks around shooting Ping was really what

(33:46):
I respected on her. I think there's obviously been drilled
home that you know, studies something that that China value
is now clearly they're also looking at the issue of,
you know, maybe China I could use its strengthen its
relationship with the rad to actually tell them, hey, guys,
can you just open up the straight up hor moves,
because that would actually really help us. But at the

(34:08):
same time, President Trump didn't want to have to go
cap in hand to Hi Jinping and say I really
need your help, because then he's going to owe him something,
and what concession is he going to give up. Well,
he's not going to want to budge on Taiwan, but
that's precisely the issue that Chi Jinping is going to
want him to move. So look, it's a game of

(34:29):
chess between two guys who are on the biggest stage
in the world. And I think what we saw yesterday
was plenty of plaudits and it was good to see
two strategic warriors, if you like, opponents of each other
essentially say look, it's okay to have differences, we can

(34:49):
try and get along. And that's largely what the State
Banqut was about last night. It was extraordinary to see
these two leaders speak about each other the way they did.
But I think at the same time both want seats
and they're trying to work out how to get it
from the other. So yes, fine, everything went well yesterday.
Another meeting today, but this is a longer term game

(35:10):
for both of these men.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Exactly, Jonathan, good to talk to. You appreciate getting up early.
Jonathan Keasley, who's the Sky News Australia US correspondent in Beijing.
So it's about quarter past what three in the morning,
so we appreciate that. Mike, you do know that Trump
picked up Jinsen Huang in Alaska. Yeah, I do know that,
but they weren't parked in Alaska to pick up Jens
and they were picking up fuel and gents and had
to get there because he was last minute invite. But
thank you for that. Let's get to in New Zealand.

(35:33):
In a moment twelve past.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
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Speaker 3 (35:41):
It'd be news talks, they'd be Dave Rennie in about
twenty minutes in New Zealand. What time is at fifteen
past seven? Not getting any easy for in New Zealand.
Expectation around the full year now looking at something as
high as three ninety million fuel bills up two hundred
and forty million, capacities cut three to five percent. Now
they're looking at cost cutting programs and jobs. Nicol Rebie
Shankers with us more Good morning, make this seems to

(36:02):
be unfolding fairly quickly.

Speaker 5 (36:04):
Is this it?

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Or is there more to come.

Speaker 18 (36:08):
This?

Speaker 3 (36:09):
If you're referring to the.

Speaker 16 (36:12):
Sort of the financial outcome for the airline, it's tied
into how long the conflict's going to last.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
So the longer it lasts, the worse it could get
for you.

Speaker 16 (36:22):
Will necessarily get worse from a runret perspective, but it
will mean that it's a It weighs as down as
far as our financial results.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
It concern where was see fuels down? So is that
not getting better for you?

Speaker 16 (36:34):
Fuel being down is helpful, but it's all context.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Isn't it normal?

Speaker 6 (36:40):
For us?

Speaker 3 (36:40):
As eighty five dollars a barrel?

Speaker 16 (36:43):
It's gone down from the heady heights of two hundred
down to about one fifty.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
So it's down, but not down enough. I can't see
it getting any worse. I mean, I don't want to
get into politics too much, but they're not going back
to war. The strait will open at some point in
some way shape or so. I don't see it getting
as bad as it was. Therefore, that's a good news
story ish for you, isn't it.

Speaker 16 (37:06):
I tend to agree with you. I have to be
optimistic about this. What we are seeing is the recovery
is going to be an interesting the interesting it'll take
an interesting shape. The markets have a highly backwardated sort
of forward curve.

Speaker 18 (37:26):
I e.

Speaker 16 (37:27):
That fuel will gradually but well, not so gradually actually
reduce in price down to normal. But what we're really
seeing every time a ceasefire gets announced or otherwise is
it's a it's a jagged cliff, so it drops very quickly,
but it'll drop to a level which then represents the
true damage to the infrastructure. And from that point on

(37:49):
I fear that the recovery to normal might be a
slow sort of drag, a sting in the tail.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Can we underline the fact you won't need equity, Yes,
so you've got cash reserves that will cover this. There
is no equity required.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
That's right.

Speaker 16 (38:05):
We've been working on building a very big and healthy
war chest post COVID, and so at this stage that
is not an issue.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
The cuts you're making in terms of services. I'm looking
at places like Europe. There was something like it was
left answer. It was New York to London. So they're
doing like ten flights a day. They're now doing nine.
So you're squeezing the same sort of thing. You know,
you're not materially affecting people's lives or maybe even your
bottom line. Is that going to change or not?

Speaker 16 (38:36):
Yeah, this stage, you know, we've done about five percent
of consolidations, so reduced flaying frequency by five percent. That
text us out till the end of the July school holidays,
and as we speak, we're looking at whether we make
further cuts. That could be either just extending that five

(38:56):
percent of cuts into the subsequent three months or going
a little deeper. And that's the piece of work that
we're doing. Even if we were to go down a
little deeper in terms of how much cuts we take,
it won't be materially different.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Okay, what about the company itself and the capital expenditure
and stuff like that. Is that damaging or is it
You're just going to paint the wall another day.

Speaker 16 (39:18):
In some cases we'll paint the wall another day. So,
like households around the country, we're going to tighten our
belts too. We have to trim some other discretionary spending.
We are doing that, but in a lot of cases,
if it relates to running a reliable, safe, punctual service
for our customers, we won't be skimming on that.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Do staff get cut?

Speaker 16 (39:43):
We are looking at cuts in that space, specifically in
sort of the indirect workforce.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
How many we haven't worked that out yet, Mike, Is
it teens hundreds, maybe hundreds. We're working through that.

Speaker 18 (39:58):
We are.

Speaker 16 (39:59):
The way I would explain it is we're not looking
at necessarily a number for the number of people that
we want to trim the business by, but rather what
discretionary initiatives and investments we can take a pause on
and that will have a flow on impact on people.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
The upside of your statement yesterday talked about the planes returning,
So that's encouraging. What material difference does that make to
the bottom line?

Speaker 6 (40:23):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (40:23):
Look, I mean we're in the business of flying planes
and we've had twenty percent of our assets stranded parked up.
Having them back is extremely useful.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah, but can you feel them?

Speaker 16 (40:33):
Well, that's I mean, that's the challenge of course, isn't it.
Our inbound markets are performing really well, so we need
to put them in service of tourism and trade. So
that's what we're planning on doing.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
In fact, on Wednesday.

Speaker 16 (40:49):
Next week, there'll be an excitement, exciting announcement that I'm
going to make as far as where we're going to
put some of that extra capacity.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
All right, nice to talk to you. You have a good weekend,
I could guess, but I'm not going to They tell
me internally that two fifty to three hundred people is
what the number they're looking at this forest jobs concerned.
Nicol rabis Shank in New Zealand Boss seven twenty one.

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and Tory Farnow left the country because she was a
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The block head is incredible.

Speaker 7 (43:07):
The power of the bluck head is incredible.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Now for the first time, I think Trump is actually stuck.
Yes he can hold out, but he doesn't have the
political road to hold out. In the ebb and flow
of the story, he's now ebb. The Australian budget too,
based on a blatant lie. They said they wouldn't and
yet they did. And they wonder why politicians are held
in shocking regard. Keir Starmer, speaking of which, one, Bye

(43:29):
bye bye. Mike's elbow looks straight up and down the toaster. Three.
How bad does Hipkins and his cronies look now they've
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they remind you a lot of it's still played in
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from a by two points from the Broncos. But how
about old Luki has so much talent Now some of

(43:52):
them are going to leave the building. Judith Judith Golin eight.

Speaker 14 (44:00):
I'm out of politics and looking forward to going back
to my first loves, my family and the law.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Big contribution. Stayed class, he sucked up the leadership, did
a lot of stuff. Off to do some more stuff.
That's a career and that's the week. Copies on the
website and we can confirm now very happy. Ps Brosnan
who popped by this week and grabbed a small gift
pack of marking the week as well as taking out
a three year subscription. Pasking might if you read Houghton's
article on Luxon and the Herald this morning. Course I

(44:26):
have Jen you call it stunning. I don't know if
it's stunning. It's a very accurate assessment of what Luckson
did this week and at last. I think he's found
a pair of gonads. I believe that he's finally worked
out that it's now will never do or die, the
intersection of the no hopers versus the intersection of the
people who can take his places. The speech was good,

(44:48):
Houghton's piece is good, Mike. What's the water blasting you
use for washing the car? Don't want to buy something
that strips the paint along with the dirt. Quite right, Dave.
It is the RD two hundred, and once you've dealt
with the RD two hundred, you will never look back.
It's still of course, it's brilliant. It doesn't strip the paint.
It also depends on how far away you're holding the nozzle.
If you're holding the nozzle right up to the thing,
you know, what do you expect? Also, my car's PPF,

(45:10):
which is the other thing you want to think about
for the RD two hundred. No one ever bought an
RT two hundred and thought lugger me if I don't
want an RD four hundred. The two hundreds plenty of
plenty of water plaster. Dave Rennie is next.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Tough on power, sharp on insight.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
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Speaker 3 (45:34):
One is with gob and I'm excited about this on
the Big GLP one fan and I followed the story
right from the start when zemp it was the go
to and it's evolved away from jabs and into pills,
and the whole thing's you know, remarkably changed globally speaking. Anyway,
So FARMAK yesterday I finally got around to putting it
on their future Fundless doesn't mean it's going to be funded,
but it potentially will. Options for investment is what it's

(45:56):
officially called. They don't tell you where on the list
it is, because that for commercial sensitivity, the rule seems
to be it'll be for a body mass index of
thirty five or more with at least two co morbidities,
so that's something anyway. It's normally about four hundred dollars
a month. My point being the reason I'm so fascinated
in this is that it's the David Seymour argument around farmac,

(46:19):
and he is, of course in charge of pharmic. If
you can spend one hundred bucks to save a thousand,
why wouldn't you The thousand you save, of course, is
the dialysis you're not doing, is the surgery you're not doing.
Is any number of health complaints, woes and worries in
the public health system that do not eventuate because people
lost a lot of weight, got healthier and transformed their
lives because everything I'm reading about GLP ones at the

(46:41):
moment as it's beneficial in terms of organs within your
body in so many different areas. I mean, yes, you
drop weight, which in and of itself is fantastic, but
what it does for the rest of your body apparently
is increasingly amazing. The more they look, the more they
find out. Because this is still the call it experimental.
It's not fair, but it's still very new. A lot
of people give up alcohol, a lot of people feel

(47:03):
so good about themselves, they take up exercise, a lot
of people just transform their lives. So if you can
do that, if you can fund more people who are
health wise challenged and solve their problem and therefore you
don't end up in the hospital system, surely to spend
one hundred to save a thousand makes perfect sense, doesn't it.
At the end of the day, twenty one minutes away

(47:23):
from eight asking now and New Zealand Rugby's been very busy,
hasn't it. A new president, new CEO, and the coach
has been back in the country this week making a
few appointments of his own, the headline being the return
of Graham Henry. Of course's selector. So how are we
tracking for kickoff in July? Dave Rennie is with us. Dave,
A very good morning to you, Mike. You're enjoying your
time back in the country.

Speaker 19 (47:44):
Yeah, loving me. Actually, I'm getting around a little bit
and got to see the kids and the Green kids one.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
That's great, fantastic. What's the feel and the job so
far of what you thought you were going to do
and what you've been able to do and how you're tracking.

Speaker 19 (48:00):
Obviously I've got another job at the moment as well,
So I've been able to get staff over to Japan,
and I've come over every by a week and then
a lot of time on Zoom and so on. So
we've got a lot of people beavering away and we're
in a pretty good spot at the moment.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
What word would you use for your appointment? Are you
a change maker? Are you a hurricane? Are you a
gentle manipulator? What's going on here?

Speaker 19 (48:28):
Yeah, I'm sure of any of those points. I think
I've mentioned. I'm pretty good at surrounding myself with quality people,
and that's what I've been doing, and I think collectively,
you know, we can make good shifts. And I got
a plan over the next sort of fifteen months hitting
into a World Cup, which is pretty exciting.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
The Razor thing, and I'm not dwelling on this, I'm
just asking about Razor. We had David Kirk on and
he said they didn't see the tracking of where the
All Blacks were at in a way that they were
happy with, despite the fact that in terms of sheer
statistics they were actually winning quite well. Do you have
a grasp of what's going on here, what kirk wants,

(49:11):
what the board wants, what New Zealand Rugby wants, et cetera.
And you've got it, you've got to handle on it.

Speaker 19 (49:15):
In other words, yeah, yeah, no, I mean I had
a look at all the review stuff. I've spoken a
lot of people. I think we're really clear on the
game that we want to play and the athlete we
need to play that game, and so that's been our focus.
And you know, we've got a pretty short turn around
when we when we start, we're going about ten days.

(49:37):
The team of sem was before France, so you know
we need to keep things reasonally simple and build over
the next few months.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
What what do I read into the Henrynoka appointments, particularly,
it's got a sort of a classic Hits feel to it.

Speaker 19 (49:54):
I mean, obviously kid's a great man. The next time,
he's got a massive work ethic and he watches a
lot of rugby and talking to him prior to my appointment,
you know, I spoke to him a lot about I
just want to find about legacy and leadership and what
he experienced when he first came in and the highs

(50:15):
and lows which which he experienced both. And so having
someone from outside the group who's got a real good
feel for the game and players is a really good
fit for us. And so yeah, yeah, he brings a
lot of experience and excited about that. I've just got

(50:35):
off the far from Ted. He was at the Blues yesterday,
so yeah, so we spent plenty happening there and Gilbert
coming in. You know, I reckon it's an excellent pointment
for us. It's just a strong history with a legacy.

Speaker 9 (50:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
The wider group which you inherit as of players, no
matter who you end up picking as a group of
potential top elite rugby players, where do you reckon the
all Blacks are at in terms of a current crop?

Speaker 19 (51:06):
Ah? I mean, I guess if you compared it in
our heyday. Now we would have had six or seven
players featuring in a World fifteen and we probably haven't
got that number at the moment. But as a younger crop,
I think this a enormous amount of talent in New Zealand.
I've been really impressed getting around the country at the

(51:28):
quality of the programs. I think coach is doing a
great job and there's a lot of really good young
kids in behind the guys you have seen playing as well.
So no, I still think he's on the rugby's in
good heart. We've got plenty of talents and our job
is going to be working with the super rugby coaches
and staff to bring that through.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
And where do you think we sit internationally in terms
of once upon a time we won everything, we expected
to win everything. That's clearly changed.

Speaker 19 (51:55):
Where do we sit now, Well, I think the expectation
hasn't changed, you know, still the expectation that you earn everything.
And yeah, I think we can turn things around quickly
and I think we can be competitive and so but
you know, the game has changed about this very strong
up north and I think that's really good for the game.

(52:16):
So yeah, but I think we've got to we're going
to be clear on how we want to play the
game and not necessarily copy what everyone else is done.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
The from your personal point of view being an international coach,
uh and the line between being a successful international coach
and not being a successful international coach. How much of
it's on you versus how much is on the circumstances.

Speaker 19 (52:41):
Well, I think when you take on a role like this, yeah,
you've got to take all the responsibility that goes with
it too, So there's no point hiding behind other stuff.
So yeah, my job is to you know, with quality
of a staff that we've got to make a difference
and grow our group and make good decisions on the

(53:03):
field that help you win tight test matches. So you
can't get away from that responsibility.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Tell me about I was interested in what you said
this week about Brodie Retallic. So he, in your view,
is the best in the world, and yet he's the
best in the world playing whatever level of rugby you
call Japanese rugby. How do you square that circle? How
do you be the best in the world and be
satisfied personally at not being at the highest level. I
don't understand that.

Speaker 19 (53:32):
Yeah, yeah, I reckon. If you haven't seen Japanese rugby,
you may think it's low level, but there are a
lot of high quality international players playing over A lot
of the South African team are there. I had a
lot of former All Blacks and so on, but he
had had twelve years of traveling the globe with the

(53:54):
Chiefs and with the All Blacks, and you know, so,
I think he felt that he had accomplish a lot
of things and can base himself and call down. Ian's
very very good money and lives a good lifestyle over there,
and he's still playing phenomenal rugby, and so yeah, I
definitely believe he's good enough to still be in All Black.

(54:15):
And I guess I'm raising questions around, you know, having
access to our very best, who are doing the right
to go over season cash and because I've contributed massively
here and and is there a potential to bring them
home they're still.

Speaker 11 (54:30):
Playing one time?

Speaker 3 (54:31):
We've got to do something about. I mean, the best
is the best, isn't it? Don't you want the best?
That's that's that's that's as complex as it needs to be,
doesn't it.

Speaker 19 (54:40):
Yeah? Well, yeah, well I think so. But you know,
so there's there's a few more discussions to be had around.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
The Yeah, interesting, what's going on in Japan? So Hanson
leaves that he cracks at the referees. Eddie Jones has
got banned. Well, what's happening in Japan there day?

Speaker 19 (54:56):
Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, obviously, look, there's a bit
of accuracy around the referring. It's the game's taken off
in Japan. The quality plays there is a lot of
the best players in the world, there's a lot of
very experienced coaches and staff up there, and a refereeing
for for a large part of still amateur. And so

(55:17):
the game moves very fast, and it's challenging and difficult,
and so that's an area that's got to get a
lot better in Japan, and it needs to happen quickly.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
And Ed is Eddie. So you know, well, what else listen,
lovely to catch up with you appreciate it very much.
Go well this season. I'm sure we'll talk throughout the year.
The early part of July is when we kick off,
of course against France. Dave Renny All Blacks coaches at
thirteen to.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
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It'd be great interview, Mike, great questions, Thank you. No
prosecution coming on Glort. Remember Glaret, you'd never heard of
Glaurate until Gloric came along with you. Brans Power will
not be prosecuted as the tailet fell over. So the
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(56:08):
they have been provided with quote unquote new evidence. An
international expert fand trans found Transpower met the required standards.
Now you think now, obviously you're saying to yourself, how's
that possible? So the electricity Authority has dropped the complaint
is now considering whether the standards needed to be changed.
And then that is the clue. Because the current code,

(56:31):
you can't make this stuff up. The current code did
not apply to outside contractors. So who were the defaces
with the spanners? They were outside contractors omexim remember them.
So they're considering whether the concept of good electricity industry
practice is fit for purpose, no kidding, including in circumstances

(56:52):
where industry participants may contract out significant parts of their functions.
So the rules that run the industry don't cover when
you go and hire Brian the Dufus with a spanner.
The rules and the rules broadly say, hey, look, if
you can prevent the towers falling over, that'll be really cool,
all words to that effect. But when you go employee

(57:15):
Brian the Dufus, those rules no longer apply. How is
this possible? Despite strong systems and oversight, human error can
still occur strong systems and oversights. So there's a guy
there unscrewing all the screws on the tower, and you've
got strong systems and strong oversight. Have you watching all

(57:37):
the screws come undone? So swimming and brown. Originally, when
he was Energy Minister, ordered the report twenty six recommendations
for a mixim Transpower the Electricity Authority, Ministry of Business
blah blah blah, all nineteen recommendations from Transpowers when carried out.
So that's why we live in a country where a

(57:57):
tower can fall over based on the fact that all
the screws came undone, because that's how backward the rules are.
Ate away from it.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
The Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News dogs.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
There'd be wellly Mica hah took my team to Tubo
the other night, and Brand and the team looked after us.
It was amazing. Wednesday nights. Ockham, New Zealand Book Awards
one of the dullest on record. Steve Braunius. I love
Steve Brounius. He writes for a newsroom these days. Actually,
personally I don't like Steve Brunius. I like his writing,

(58:30):
though we had a to do many years ago. But
that's another story. Anyway, Ockham Book Awards one of the
dullest on record until a guy called Mark Todd from Ockham.
They're the residential people, Mark Todd. I don't think Mark
Todd likes me either, actually, funnily enough, because I had
a crack at his business. Anyway, Mark Todd got up
and went He was incandescent with rage. Do you know why?
He was incandescent with rage? And this is the problem
with modern award shows, and this way, I don't go

(58:51):
to the radio awards anymore. It's full of whiners. It's
full of monas, bitchers and whiners. And some guy called
Sam Marn got up and he whined and he bitched
and he moaned about the government, and poor Paul Goldsmith
had to yet again. Paul Goldsmith. Say whatever you want
about him, but as Minister of Arts and Broadcasting and
all that stuff, all he does is go along to evenings.

(59:12):
And he does go along to evenings, and God bless
them for doing it. And all these award shows are
exactly the same. They're full of left leaning losers who
want to make it political. They don't want to enjoy
themselves because they don't know how to enjoy themselves. And
award ceremony is about enjoyment. It's about celebration and success,
but they don't know how to celebrate life. They want
to bitch on about Maas and Palestine and all the
other rubbish. Anyway, he'd had enough of that, so he

(59:35):
had a crack. So the Ockhams finally came to life,
which is nice news for you. Then Tim and Katie.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
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Speaker 9 (59:53):
For this, I've drowned and drumed small.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Nice guy. When did we last have him on the show?
I'm going to say, as Sam looks it up, I'm
going to say he was last year in twenty twenty one,
Josh Grobin. Of course he's back with Cinematic twenty twenty.
It wasn't bad, was it? Late twenty twenty? Very late
twenty twenty. See, I'm look, I'm getting better at this game.

(01:00:22):
Every now and again. When I guess these numbers and
I'm way out, I think my mind's gone. Might as
well quit. But now that was a good guest. So
I'm back for another couple of years. Now, where was i?
Josh Grobin Cinematic ten tracks, forty minutes and forty five seconds.
Most of the songs are from films of the twentieth century.
When you wish upon a star back from the Disneys

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in nineteen forty, can you feel the love tonight? Elton
John is in there. So it's just Josh. We're doing
a whole lot of you know what Josh does. It's
eight minutes past eight, a.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Week in Review with two degrees, bringing spirt business solutions
to the table.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Tim Wilson's Weather's along with Kate hawk'sill be Good morning
to you.

Speaker 9 (01:01:03):
Both, Good morning your money.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Now we have to I'm right about award boy.

Speaker 12 (01:01:11):
Here, we got a pop quiz for us all. We've
got to mark something out of ten.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
No, I just said I was just before the just
for the outs and right about awards. Awards have gone
gone to the gone to the dogs, haven't they. It's
just a bunch of left leaning winers, winges and bitches
and the fun is no longer there.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
Do you have.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Awards in your world? Tim? What's your world? Is your will?
What would you call the world that you operate in currently?
What's that world?

Speaker 17 (01:01:34):
I don't think there's such a thing as the think tank, Oscar,
So no, we don't have that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
So you don't have a think t. Well, the we
out our team here at z ME won the our
in house legal team won the Best Small Team award
at the in House Legal Team Awards.

Speaker 9 (01:01:54):
Well, this is it that you open open open a
bottle of Fanta.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
And what I'm saying is, if there's an in the
house legal team award, surely there's a think tank Awards,
isn't there?

Speaker 9 (01:02:05):
You know what I think?

Speaker 12 (01:02:07):
The think tank oscars They probably won that award because
they were kept so busy with all the legal letters
and threats of lawsuits.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
You get, that's true, Nothing wrong, nothing wrong with coming
to the office with a full desk of work ahead
of you.

Speaker 12 (01:02:22):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
They know it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
The I must or the other thing I must raise
with you two people is it's Sam Sam, producer Sam.
Guess guess what's significant about today for Sam?

Speaker 6 (01:02:36):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (01:02:36):
I know?

Speaker 9 (01:02:37):
Is he being replaced by Freddy?

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
No, I don't think we didn't consider that. We had
a meeting about that Wednesday.

Speaker 9 (01:02:42):
Actually that's with the small team.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
And just to say, you a guest know his new
tangerine three piece from Vietnam is not arriving today. That's
still that's a week late. Today. Tomorrow is Sam's ten
year anniversary.

Speaker 12 (01:03:02):
Oh that's amazing. Gosh, that makes me feel old.

Speaker 9 (01:03:04):
Because I what ten years at?

Speaker 12 (01:03:06):
Said Bee, feel like Sam and I started together.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
You are old.

Speaker 12 (01:03:10):
Amazing.

Speaker 9 (01:03:12):
So how old was was Sam when he started? Was it?
He was twelve? No, he's oh sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
His mom said, you go straight from primary school, Sam,
because that n CEA looks a bit complex for you. You
go try your hand in radio.

Speaker 12 (01:03:25):
So we really worked so, so, so so so hard.
I know he still does. But when he first started
to he just.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Used to work hard. He didn't know, you're right. He
used to work out.

Speaker 12 (01:03:35):
He hosted overnights if they needed him to, Like there
was nothing Sam didn't do like he worked, you know,
he worked his butt off, so he deserves to be
where he is now, which is on the big show.

Speaker 9 (01:03:44):
So so what's happening?

Speaker 17 (01:03:45):
Who are you shouting morning tea?

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
I don't know. I don't know if I can say,
do you know what you're getting for the ten years
or not?

Speaker 9 (01:03:53):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
No, he didn't, he doesn't. Oh, Sam says he doesn't
even know it's ten years.

Speaker 12 (01:03:58):
Oh maybe it was a surprise.

Speaker 9 (01:04:00):
You've ruined it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Because here's the next thing. We got him a gift.

Speaker 12 (01:04:06):
Don't say what it is because that's well Sam.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Yeah, but do it. I want to do it well
because there's two things. There's two No, there's two problems here.
There's two problems. Problem number one. I want to say
it because it's a cool gift. I had nothing to
do with it, and so it's it's it's once again,
it's Anne, Marie and Will who do who run these things?
So they got them a cool gift and I thought,
what a cool gift. So that's problem number one. So

(01:04:30):
I want to tell everyone what the gift is so
everyone can go, Wow, what a cool place z.

Speaker 9 (01:04:34):
B is to work.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Two apart from apart from Chris, of course. But two,
I remember what I got for my twentieth year at
zed b Oh. And what I can tell you. What
I can tell you is it's not as good as
what Sam getting for ten.

Speaker 12 (01:04:53):
Yeah, times have changed.

Speaker 6 (01:04:54):
What did you get?

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
No?

Speaker 17 (01:04:56):
No, this is this is a because because everyone loves
Sam and you've just got to work harder.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
I think that's I think that's the message I'm getting.
Do you know the gift I got after twenty years?
It had that really. I went to the I went
to the prize cupboard to grab something quickly because I
forgot the type vibe about it.

Speaker 12 (01:05:11):
What was it? I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
It was a bottle of wine, a.

Speaker 9 (01:05:17):
Nice one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
It was an okay bottle of wine. It was an
average bottle of wine.

Speaker 9 (01:05:20):
It was like, where's the now? Listen, this is the
this is the problem.

Speaker 17 (01:05:25):
This is the problem actually with this country is the
gratitude we are so blessed to live here.

Speaker 9 (01:05:31):
It's a good place. Let's not suck the fun out
of it by going, oh, it's all right, No, I'm
not sucking the fun out of it. I thought it
was good wine until I found out what Sam got
for ten years and now suddenly it's the same.

Speaker 17 (01:05:46):
Wait a minute, you're criticizing petty parties at the beginning
of this, and now you're having your know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Actually I sounded like a left wing wine. I had
an award ceremony. Actually, let me.

Speaker 9 (01:05:55):
Let me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
I'm going to confer with some people, and I'm going
to because I want desperately to tell you what we've
got him and and and I'll take some advice and
I'll come back in a moment.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
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Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
News Talks Talks sixteen past eight The Weekend Review with
two Degrees Fighting for Fear for Kiwi Business and Wilson
Kate Hawksby with us Update. Michael my original producer, one
of my original producers. I've burned through a few on
them my time here. But Michael remember Michael? You two
Do you remember Michael?

Speaker 9 (01:06:30):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (01:06:30):
Remember Michael?

Speaker 6 (01:06:31):
Which trip?

Speaker 9 (01:06:32):
Oh my goodness?

Speaker 12 (01:06:33):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Where do you travel with Michael? You never went anywhere
with Michael.

Speaker 9 (01:06:37):
You guys talked Michael on holiday?

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Oh you did too, he was too, I remember that. Anyway.
So Michael celebrated at tend year anniversary last week he
got guess what he got? Given? What a retro Warriors jersey.

Speaker 12 (01:06:51):
Oh that's really cool.

Speaker 9 (01:06:52):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Do you know why? It's guess where Michael thought?

Speaker 12 (01:06:55):
He'd prefer cricket merch because isn't he a bit of
a He's much more a cricket tricket.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Do you know what? Do you know what? He's really
good at long weekends?

Speaker 12 (01:07:06):
He was now like a long weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Guess where Michael is as I speak. He's in Brisbane
at the Magic Round having what a long weekend? Anyway,
So he loves his Warriors and he's going to Ritro
Warriors six. Now back to Sam, what's what's the ruling?
The ruling is. The ruling is, unfortunately I blew the
whole thing because what Will had no what was supposed

(01:07:36):
to happen was when when Sam left the studio today,
there were twelve people lined up with party poppers and
they were just going to spray spray them all in
the air and go surprise. And I've just gone and
blown the whole thing.

Speaker 12 (01:07:48):
We went to her to tell you anything, you're such
a big people should not exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
We went to one of those labor higher organizations hired
twelve people to to do the party poppers that they've
just left the building now, so it's been a complete
another waste of time. Do you know what we've got, Sam? Sam?
Can open? Have you opened it?

Speaker 9 (01:08:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Sam, Sam's got a cool look. He's got We bought
him a We bought him a special knife slashes wrist,
not a slash MIC's wrist. No, we bought him a
special Japanese chef's knife. Because he's a he's a he's

(01:08:30):
a he's a guy who likes to go to restaurants
and pretend he knows about food. Basically, that's what it
boils down to.

Speaker 12 (01:08:35):
Oh that's awesome. That's quite good, Spinny, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
That's what I'm saying. So that's quite expining. Retro Jersey's
quite Mike Hoskings slaved away thirteen dollar bottle of red wine.
Thanks for coming. It's been a miser.

Speaker 12 (01:08:51):
More than thirteen dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 9 (01:08:54):
Would have been seventeen fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
I reckon seventeen fifty. How So Sam celebrated Tim with
a scene. By the way, can I just say you
know that warrior's jacket I got from Cameron George a
couple of weeks ago that was limited edition one, the
one that you've slept and every night, the one that
I slept and every night it I said to Cameron
at the time, I said how much is this? And
he didn't know when they were going to put it out?
I see one hundred and twenty nine ninety five. In

(01:09:18):
my defense, I didn't realize how good a quality it
was when he gave it to me. It wasn't until
I put it on that I thought, oh, you know,
it's going to be one hundred and twenty nine ninety five.
Turns out today it's one hundred three hundred and sixty nine.

Speaker 12 (01:09:29):
Oh boy, Okay, that is a quality jacket though. But
that is that is right up.

Speaker 9 (01:09:34):
There, Yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
So it's going to be.

Speaker 9 (01:09:36):
It's a bit roots for the warriors, do, isn't it?
Wearing it down at.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
I think if I was in the marketing department, I
would say go up market. I'd say, there's there's nothing
wrong with hitting up market and being aspirational. I think
this is a good thing. So's they're available at three
sixty nine of people are interested in all of that.

Speaker 9 (01:09:53):
Well, I'm hearing it's your year. I'm hearing it's your years. Yeh,
go on, splash out.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Where are we on the table?

Speaker 9 (01:09:58):
Tim number two?

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Number two? We don't normally say number two, but yes,
we're second on the table at the moment.

Speaker 9 (01:10:06):
And it's hey, hey, hey, I'm going to take the win.
All right. I just checked. But I heard you. I
heard you talking about it this week.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
We're number two on the latter, so I think it
could quite possibly be our year television recommendation for the weekend.
Anyone want to offer one? Because I've got one.

Speaker 9 (01:10:21):
I've got one, I've got I've got the I've got one.
The movie, the movie Old Yeller. Are you familiar with those?

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Good?

Speaker 9 (01:10:29):
Doesn't what? No, listen, just listen to me, Listen to me.

Speaker 17 (01:10:33):
Disney Plus and it's It's about a dog that wins
a boy's heart.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
It's about fifty years old, as famous movies in the world.
Everyone knows what.

Speaker 9 (01:10:43):
But here's the thing, here's the thing.

Speaker 17 (01:10:45):
We saw it last week and it's no sarcasm, no irony,
no nudge nudge wink wink. It's a real story of
love and loss. It's beautiful. You gotta watch. Okay, did
you cry nearly did nearly did?

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Okay, you've got a recommendation, Cadie.

Speaker 12 (01:11:02):
Well, I would say, rooster on neon before Neon becomes
new neon or what changes or will rooster be lost?

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Actually I don't know right when I give you the
information I forgot to give you earlier on because you're
in your pilates Castle week and you're no longer listen
to the program, not that you really did. Anyway, have
you heard of Hey you?

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
Hey you?

Speaker 12 (01:11:20):
Yes, the streamer?

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Right, hey you guess what?

Speaker 9 (01:11:23):
Hey? You've got not hacks?

Speaker 12 (01:11:26):
Correct, shut up, that's the best news ever. So can
we get hate you now?

Speaker 9 (01:11:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
We can. Yeah, pay pay them ten or thirty twenty
eight dollars whatever, give them a bottle of wine and
shift snipe the old stream it to you and so
they got hacks. My recommendation is Rivals, which is landing
today one on Disney Rivals season two. Absolutely brilliant.

Speaker 9 (01:11:50):
Summarize it. What's what's it about? What Rivals about?

Speaker 18 (01:11:53):
No?

Speaker 12 (01:11:54):
Tim won't like it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Tim won't like because you're a conservative weirdo.

Speaker 17 (01:11:58):
So the you mean, because I have some standards, you
get the cold casts open, wash your mouth out.

Speaker 12 (01:12:04):
It's Jilly Cooper novel in a sort of a camp
pantomimi put to TV in a way that's kind of
it's funny. You can't take it seriously.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Well you're not supposed to do. That's why it's funny.
Sydney Morning Herald sums it up perfectly. They say this
it is Bennie Hill meets Succession.

Speaker 12 (01:12:24):
That's so true. Oh succession, that's a stretch. It's more
Benny Hill than success.

Speaker 9 (01:12:29):
Is Benny Hill meets Benny Hill.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
No, it's more than Benny Hill. But it's well worth
watching if you've got a couple of moments over the weekend. Anyway,
I think we had a good time there and Sam
celebrating his teeth and Michael's having a long weekend and
I still got a cheap bottle of one.

Speaker 17 (01:12:41):
You ruined the surprise, basically, people from the labor higher
if he's standing outside your office.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Nothing, they got nothing to bitch about. They're still getting paid.
Nice to see you, guys. Twenty two The My.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
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Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
It's all chemists warehouse at the moment they've got the
mayhem megasale on so up to half price off the
every day low prices on the big brand vitamins and cosmetics.
They've got the biggest range of Go Healthy and Good
Health vitamins that's up to half price. Doesn't stop there,
never does. You'll find Neutral Life and Black Mole's vitaminents
up to half price. You can stock up on the
favorite health reason Nature's Way vitamins. You got it up
to half price. You don't want to forget the cosmetics

(01:13:21):
MC Beauty Nude by Nature n y X. They're all
up to hard price Chemist Warehouse, and that's off the
already low everyday prices, by the way. So if you're
looking for another reason to head to Chemist Warehouse, this
Mayhem megasale is that reason. So your shop and store
you can do it online. You click and collect if
you want, use that fast delivery service to get the
essentials dropped straight to your door. Teas and Sees supply
sale ends third June, so your head in store online,

(01:13:44):
Chemist Warehouse. Stop paying too much.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Pasky Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
If you're a Warriors member Jackets three thirty two ninety nine,
that's a vugain see the Bogans. See honestly, I know
three you know it's of you can know and can
afford and see. Beer sales are down in America by
what was its six point three percent? Beer sales are down,
particularly in California because no one everyone's paying all the
money on the gas. And I know we're paying all
the money on the gas. Why do I fill up
yesterday for three point thirty and that's the ninety eight

(01:14:12):
And at that station I was at, the diesel was
below three and the ninety one was like three to
oh one. So we're getting there slowly. But anyway, what
was I saying? Three thirty two ninety nine? I get
that that's a lot of money, But if you're a
Warrior's fan, believe me, being lucky enough to have one
of those jackets, it is genuine quality. It's not like
you're putting it on and going three hundred dollars. I

(01:14:33):
want to rap off. That was the budgets dominated matters.
But this call's decision yesterday in Australia, the old supermarket angst.
That's big news too, Murray Olds is but moments away.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
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Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
Mike, what time does your day start? And what are
you packing to your average working day? It's just like
Q and a session. It's a very good question. I
might answer it one day because there's a lot goes
on morning Mike, interested in using ninety eight? What make
a vehicle?

Speaker 9 (01:15:11):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
And what difference does it make using either ninety five
or ninety eight. I assume it's a recommendation from the manufacturer.
What an excellent question, because a lot of people give
me tremendous grief about using ninety eight and talking about
ninety eight as though I'm some bloke who's got enough
money to buy ninety eight. There is, in fact the
high performance. In very broad terms, it's all about refinement.

(01:15:31):
So at the simple end of the spectrum, you got
diesel which is kind of barely refined. They sort of
put a spoon and stir it around, and then you
throw it in a tractor or a truck. Then they
might spend a bit more time with it, and you
might end up with a ninety one, which is what
I stick in my old AUDIM nineteen ninety three, oudy
eighty convertible five speed manual, New Zealand, you too, owner,

(01:15:52):
So you put your ninety one on that, and the
manufacturer recommends the ninety one because the engine back in
those days couldn't handle anything more. You'd you'd choke up
the engine. It's like given It's like giving an unsophisticated
person a glass of Jubrion when all they want is
a glass of Jacob's Creek, so they can't handle it.
So then you come to ninety five, which is what
most cars or modern engines run on. So it's more

(01:16:14):
refined than the ninety one. It's got more additives, it's
got more stuff done to it, and it's good for
the engine because the engine has been built in a
way that it wants a quality product. It's like drinking
a glass of water for your body versus a glass
of fenta. Your body doesn't want the fenter. It's liquid,
but it doesn't want the fena. Your body wants the water.

(01:16:35):
Then you get to your ninety eight, which, if you've
got a high performance engine, it's an athlete of an engine,
and your athlete at the end of the one hundred
meters gout gout doesn't go give me a glass of
fenter gout, gout goes. Give me a glass of hydrated
water with a few salts in it something like that.
That's your ninety eight and if you want to go
one more you can get one hundred, which is basically racing.

(01:16:56):
It's better for your engine and you'll get more performance
out of it, is what I'm telling you, twenty one
minutes away from.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
You wouldn't disagree with a word of that, would you?

Speaker 18 (01:17:09):
Mrry?

Speaker 7 (01:17:10):
No?

Speaker 18 (01:17:10):
But not Michael, very good morning. I find I actually
work better on a couple of stylagers. But that's just me.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
That is you. You're an old workhoorse and.

Speaker 18 (01:17:22):
That any vehicle you drive would take ninety one.

Speaker 9 (01:17:24):
Goodness me, Oh exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
Now listen to the budget this week. I know it
depends on who you vote for and all that stuff. Yeah,
I just can't get past the fact you lied. I mean,
if you want to adjust negative gearing and stuff, fabulous,
But in your election campaign of twenty twenty five, that's
what you say. You don't say you're not going to
do it and then do it?

Speaker 9 (01:17:43):
Do you?

Speaker 18 (01:17:44):
Well, he's banking. What Albaneze's doing is you know, you
and I have spoken before. He's been so reluctant to
spend any political capital, to actually take a few hits,
to lose some bark in pursuing, you know, the Labor agenda,
which is to basically take from the wealthy and redistribute
that to those who are at the bottom end, who
are drinking your fantera rather than your hydrated water. And

(01:18:07):
he has bitten the bullet and he's done just that
any number of times this last week. We've seen on
television whether you do this never ever, No, I've already
answered that, next, next, next, And he's basically torn up
all of that with this budget. On the other hand,
you look at what angers Taylor's done and his budget reply,

(01:18:29):
where's the cloth he here? I mean, basically, Taylor's promised
to repeal every Labor changed, the negative gearing. He's going
to scrap everything that Labor's promised if they ever win
government again. And Labor's I beg your pardon to Taylor.
Apparently he's at his best forty eight hours of an
opposition leader since the election wipe out last year. Now
albaneas he's seen of Morrison, Dutton and Susan Lee. He says,

(01:18:50):
Taylor's next on the chopping Bob. But the point you
make is very valid. A lot of people are saying
he's a bloody liar, and if the opposition can prosecute
that successfully, he will lose a bit more bark than
he probably anticipated.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
They're calling him Pinocchio. Now, what Angus Taylor also set,
apart from his twenty two billion dollars worth of text
recess is the immigration. He hasn't given a number on immigration,
but he did suggest he'd boot up to seventy five
thousand people out of the country. That's that's hanson esk,
isn't it.

Speaker 18 (01:19:17):
Well, she's actually be Pauline Hanson's accused Angus Taylor of fevery.
She says, it just pinched all my policies. Here's the
quote from Hanson. The cozy two party system protecting two tired,
clueless and unpopular major parties is on borrowed time. It's
my time, she says. But here's what Angus Taylor is
proposing in immigration, Because this is an issue that's got

(01:19:40):
a heck of a lot of traction right across the country.
He says he will tie immigration to the number of
homes built in the previous financial year. Right, so this
financial year they're looking at almost three hundred thousand people
arriving in Australia. Next year it's going to be two
hundred and twenty five. Right after COVID, more than half
a min million people arrived in the twelve months after

(01:20:02):
COVID finished. Now, you know, by any measure, even if
you're a died in the world labor voter as i am,
you have to say, where the hell are they going
to go? There's enough insufficient homes that the roads are
bigger enough, not enough schools, hospitals can't cobD already, so
you have to have that argument. Well, Angus Taylor has
come out crystal clear. Whether he survives is another story.

(01:20:27):
Hanson's very very popular. Look what happened in Farah, Look
what happened in South Australia. Can she translate that to
the federal stage. I guess we'll see in a couple
of years time. But right now she's in the ascendancy.
Angus Taylor riding along in the coattails and making a
pretty bloody good fist of it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
Do you reckon. Hanson's popular only in dumb, dumb Australia.
You know where people are a bit thick, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 18 (01:20:48):
Yeah, I do know what you're saying. And that's been
the popular view. She appeals to a redneck, uneducated, racist
portion of the population, which is very small Australia, much
more sophisticated, much more ubane, much more modern, twenty first century.
I'm not sure that still applies. I bag the tribadder
Hanson on your program not so long ago, saying she
had as much staying power as a snowflake in the

(01:21:10):
Simpson Desert. I'm not sure that's correct anymore. She's got
traction across society. Wealthy people are saying, you know what,
this other mob is coming after my savings, my super
the stuff I've set aside for my retirement. Bugg of that.
I want to go with Pauline Hanson. How much hangs
you know, the extent of which you can hang on
to that will determine the outcome of the next election.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
In large measure, my problem with Hanson is not so
much a policy. I mean, you argue, what if you want,
but she's about an inch deep and once you've got
past immigration and you need to actually have the wherewithal
to run the vast mechanisms that required of the country.
I don't know she's got the depth or anyone around
has got the depth to actity. I mean there's a

(01:21:53):
reason that the Libs and the Dems and the Labour
Party been around a long time. They sorted within their
own sphere. Know what they do.

Speaker 18 (01:22:00):
Yeah, I mean Pauline Hanson's defense policy is to back
you know, the Victoria Cross recipe and accused of war crimes.
That's her defense policy. Didn't think about aircraft or you know,
ships or submarines. She is as deep as the veneer
on your kitchen benches. But you know, if you've got
a big enough kitchen bench that can accommodate a lot

(01:22:23):
of votes. The thing is that she is tapping in. Look,
people are fed up. They're fed up with much the
same way as a New Zealand the fed up with
politics as usual. They don't want any more of that.
They look at their standard livings going backwards. They look
at their kids being unable to buy a home because
it's just too down expensive. They cannot save the sufficient
deposit while they're paying ever increasing rents. They are sick

(01:22:45):
and tired of the way it's been done for years.
Time for a change. Who's going to give me that change? Well,
maybe Hanson is the one we have to vote for.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
You're an outstanding blake. You enjoy your time. I know
you in christ You're based the family and all that
sort of stuff. Murray Old's our Australian correspondent this morning.
We didn't get to Cools, but I will do in
just a couple of mons. The only reason gripped by
Coles is you know what's going on with supermarkets in
this country. So let me background that for you in
a moment eight forty five.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
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Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Yeah, just quickly. So Coles both major players in Australia.
Aldie hasn't, but the other two major players in Australia
have been in court. The Federal Court yesterday handed down
the decision on Coles that they the discount's misled customers
on quote an industrial scale. This guy called Michael O'Brien.
I want to say that Justice Michael O'Brien was the
same guy who was involved with that whole I can't

(01:23:39):
even remember their names. Now, the Fitzsimon's case, whatever it was,
you know, the people who see the people, and it
was involved in the media and all that sort of stuff. Anyway,
it doesn't really matter, but the deal was in essence.
And by the way, the a Triple C who took
the case, which is the equivalent of our ComCom. They're
going after major, major penalties. They want multi million dollar

(01:23:59):
penalties because this is a company that made one point
one billion profit last year. So they say we've got
to hit them and hit them hard so this stuff
stops anyway, And of course, to be fair, Coals defended
all of it and said they were genuine specials. What
are you talking about? So it was a two week hearing.
They agreed to focus on a small number of products
sold between jan of twenty one and May of twenty three.
Two liter bottles of Coke Colgate toothpaste, nine hundred gram

(01:24:22):
tens of Kerry Care baby formula, at Rexona deodorant, Lurepak butter,
and a box of Barnet shapes. So then there was
the Nature's Wet Dog Food or the Nature's Gift Wet
Dog Food that was priced at four dollars. Between April
twenty two and Feb seven, twenty twenty three, it increased
to six dollars for seven days before Coals introduced its
third price of four to fifty advertising at a discount

(01:24:43):
from six. So it's gone from four to four to fifty,
but down from sex. You see how they're playing that game,
and so that's now. Whether that's directly correlates in any way,
shape or form to what's going on New Zealand, I
don't know, and if it does, I'm assuming the Commas
Commissioner onto it. But they've been so the argument there's
two arguments. One, obviously supermarkets can't behave that way and

(01:25:05):
they've been caught and caught out. Two whether or not
the competition aspect of the whole debate, because our argument
here is all we just need another player and it
will be all so much better, and yet they've got
other players in Australia and it's not so much better,
which then leads you to ask the question, is more
competition or more players in the market Actually the answer
to the problem I've always argued no, and I'm from

(01:25:28):
the Australian situation. I don't I think I'm probably right,
aren't I? Nine away from nine?

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
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Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Hearing care is not something you deal with once and
forget about it, of course, and this has been the
problem with the whole industry. Hearing changes over time, of course,
and technology changes over time, so your needs evolve over time.
But traditionally those hearing aids have been sold sort of
as a one off purchase. So Resonate Health they had
a look at that flipped the whole thing on its head,
and that's why they've been so successful. That's their unlimited subscription, right,

(01:25:58):
So hearing care becomes something you can manage over time.
Ninety dollars a month you receive top of the range
hearing aids, ongoing care upgrades every three years, no large
upfront payments. Makes perfect sense. Now that you listen to it,
you go, jeez, what did somebody else think of that? Anyway,
once you're part of the program, that price, by the way,
is fixed for life. You heard me write fixed for life.
It's built for the long term, not just the first purchase.

(01:26:19):
So if you're thinking about hearing care as something that
evolves over time, which is what you should be. This
model makes a lot of sense for you. Eight hundred
seven three seven sixty six two eight hundred seven three
seven six six two online resonate health dot co dot
m z Mosking, Mike, I've done the tests. My M five.
You're very lucky to have an M five gets thirty

(01:26:40):
k's more range with the tank of ninety five versus
ninety one. Another ten to fifteen on ninety eight. So
I assume you're M five slightly older, because I wouldn't
be putting any ninety one near a modern M five,
only the modern five holody plug in hybridy weird anyway, morning, Mike,
I run a jeep Cherokee on ninety eight. I run

(01:27:00):
it on ninety five, but I get more k's out
of the tank on ninety eight. I should have pointed
this out of course, apart from being bitter for your engine,
you get more case, I get more on ninety eight
than ninety five. Also run it a lot. It runs
a lot cooler on ninety eight than it does on
ninety five. I hope this helps. It does help. It
all helps. We're here to help. We're basically been a

(01:27:20):
sich session five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
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sail on now?

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
Now a little story here. It's Raley Green. Riley Green
as a country star.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
There was a manner I used.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
To pass actually sound a bit like run. He was
running anyway. He's multi platinum. He's at the latest concert
and he invites this is the oldest trick. He obviously
watched us doing with Freddy the other day, didn't he.
So he's at his latest concert. He invites what looks
to be about a four year old to come up
on stage and sing with him. This thing has gone off.

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
I'll can't get on when you take over. It was
a man I used to fan. He was covered in
the word yes, yes, said man. When all round.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
He said, you're fighting it out of you. You're sick
of it, sick of it and throwing up in the control. Anyway.
I don't know what to do about, Luke mtcalf I mean,
what that's the thing I didn't raise I have to?
Am I going to raise it with? Shall I raise

(01:29:10):
it with the Prime Minister on Monday? Do you think
he's interested in there? Luke Metcalfe, what's he gone and done.
He's gone to the dragons. You don't go out of
the dress like me going downstairs and working for him
and the heads. What's the I mean, what's going on there? Anyway,
You have an awesome weekend. We'll see you Monday from
six Happy Days.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
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