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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome today is EF You're about to get wrapped in
a deal. The payments drew on being hunted and hounded.
The lads in the commentary a bunch of Richard Arnold
Steve Price will enhums proceedings as well the paschal, Well,
welcome to the brand new week seven past six. So
two big victories, one to the American President, seems Round
two of the talks tomorrow don't involve a lot. There
may well be a bit more bluster, a bit more
back and forward, a few more claims and counterclaims, But

(00:33):
all I'm hearing is a run shot. A revolution might
well be brewinged The leadership, such as it is, can
no longer electronically communicate with each other because the war
was run on pellanter and open AI. When you try
and communicate, the Americans and Israelis can take you out.
So all in all, it looks like a major victory.
Nuclear materials collected, the strait will eventually open. It's largely over,
so something to deal with as the week unfolds, I guess. Oh,

(00:55):
and also the Warriors one sort of like the war
you expected the result, it didn't end up looking like
you thought it would. Twenty eight to twenty is not
how it should have been. I mean, game of two
halves is often used, but kind of applicable here. The
twenty came in the second half in a way it
should not have. Our first half was so good it
was over. There was never a chance we were going

(01:15):
to lose the game. But the great teams look for
the areas that might have been a bit different in
our second half most definitely should have been a bit different.
Could it be psychological? I mean Slade Griffin last week
on the programme told us attitude can sometimes bigger thing.
When the top of the table plays the bottom of
the table and you run up a bunch of points
in the first forty, is that where something in the
head switches a bit and even if you don't go

(01:36):
to sleep, your relax, and before you know it they
put twenty on you. That's the NRL, though, I suppose,
isn't it. Even though the Titans are the bottom of
the field, all sides on their day can surprise, have
not damaged you. But the result is the result. The
winner is the winner. We march merrily. On The upside
is the Dolphins are next, and they're sort of like
the Titans, at the wrong end of the table and
right for the picking. So if we win this coming week,

(01:58):
having learned from this last week, we can produce the
sort of victories we become accustomed to this season. Big
fed threshings, continual improvement, never gets old. A top four
all the way, no excuses. This is our.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
We're after Pakistan tomorrow for round two of what increasingly
looks like epic fury. Is in the game, but not
before another round of Beck and Ford.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
We're offering a very fair and reasonable deal, and I
hope they take it, because if they don't, the United
States is going to knock out every single power plant
and every single bridge in Iran. No more missed, nice guy.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
The Iranians are into a bit of verbal.

Speaker 6 (02:40):
They did not fully uphold the cease fire that was
part of their tactics, but we stood firm and in
the end they accepted. For this purpose, we closed the
strait of Homers and we were able to impose our
will and our demands.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
JD's leading the gang of ging Beckheim. The Energy secretary
rolled out for some pre show him.

Speaker 7 (02:58):
The President's using every way he can to get leverage
over the regime to bring this conflict to an end.
He's a creative negotiator. He uses pressure in different ways,
he uses uncertainty in different ways.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
And then in Britton Stahmer once again fighting for his
political life. No one believes he didn't know Mandelsohn failed
the security jick.

Speaker 8 (03:17):
This was his appointment and he's got to take responsibility
for it. I find it very difficult to believe that
nobody took the Prime Minister aside and said, so you know, sir,
there are some very serious concerns here.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Ministers have all been told to say the same thing.

Speaker 9 (03:32):
I think it was wrong not to tell the Prime
Minister or the Foreign Secretary that UK security vetting advised
against the appointment and that the Foreign Office took a
different view.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Lobdems pretty much like everyone else knows sleeves when they
see it.

Speaker 10 (03:50):
I think he's a vast improvement on people like Boris Johnson.
But that's a very low bar, isn't it. I think
he came into office saying he was going to put
all that chaos and crisis behind. There aren't going to
be the sleees and the scandals.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Finally, this week they're marking what would have been the
one hundredth birthday of Queen Elizabeth. There will be events
to mark the date. And we've got a charity. It
is the Queen Elizabeth Trust. It's been set up to
focus on restoring shared spaces and communities. It'll develop and
transform under used buildings and green spaces and ensure communities
have support to host local events and love them as

(04:26):
names of the world in ninety Ah. Yeah, so JD's
on his way to Pakistan and more good news for
the President. I told you this last week. I can't
remember what I told you because it's so damn confusing.
The underground bit of the ballroom in Washington was banned,
or could have been the overground bit of the ballroom anyway,
doesn't really matter now because they went to the appeal
court in the US Court of Appeals for the District
of Columbo of Columbia have granted an administrative stay so

(04:49):
they ballroom can carry on.

Speaker 11 (04:53):
For now.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
It is twelve pass six.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
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Speaker 2 (05:05):
Now they're voting in Bulgaria and unlike Hungary, looks like
it's going towards Russia. Guy called RADEV was the president
quit to run in this particular pole. He's hot in
the polls at thirty five percent. The nearest they've got
to him is twelve thirteen percent something like that. Former
fighter pilot opposes military support for Ukraine and loves Russia.

(05:27):
So he's the clear front runner. So we'll see how
that goes. Fifteen past six cent doves generate. Greg Smith,
Morning to you more as you might.

Speaker 11 (05:36):
Right.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
So we're well, I mean we're spending it all on petrol,
aren't we basically, I mean, whatever we spend, it's all
going on the gas.

Speaker 11 (05:43):
We sure are, So no surprise.

Speaker 12 (05:44):
The standout and the sleept price and sees the monthly
read on key components of inflation, it is fuel. So
in March petrol price is up eighteen point six percent
and diesel, wait for it, forty two points six percent,
so that a lot largest monthly increases on record. Of course,
it's linked to the Middle conflict. It does follow to
clients earlier in the year, so it has been a

(06:06):
sharp and sudden reversal annual basis. Fuel costs also significantly high,
picture up thirteen point nine percent, These up nearly thirty
seven percent. Did nuts driving around. The prices obviously have
come down a little bit in recent days at stations,
but yeah, we'll have to see where that goes this week,
as you know with the straight just elsewhere. Food prices
that are still on the rise up three point four percent,

(06:28):
but not as high as they were. That was after
a four point five percent rise in February. So food
prices around aout eighteen point five percent of the CPI
was a monthly relief. Food prices down point six percent
in March. We're getting a fruit and veggies cheaper evidently
and still ongome pressure than meat. Poultry fish that are
at seven point three percent annually, and restaurant meals ready

(06:49):
to eat food up two point eight percent. So pockets
inflation yeah, coming down in places might but still persistent
and at a lot of areas.

Speaker 11 (06:58):
So electricity that's up over.

Speaker 12 (06:59):
Thirty teen percent annually, Gas nearly twelve percent, But yes,
it's a monthly easy in places. So we'll see what
the full inflation numbers are this week. Expectations that on
ann your basis, we're going to ease from three point
one percent to two point.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Nine Okay, so those are the prices. What about the spending, Yeah,
it's having an impact on spending.

Speaker 12 (07:19):
So if we look at the cards spending that in
March it was at one point three percent of one
hundred and twenty four million. But yeah, before we get
too solid about consumers only there was it is fuel
which is the driver. So spend there up eighty one million,
seventeen point three percent as prices surge, so it's inflation,
not stronger demand.

Speaker 11 (07:38):
You strip that out, look at the core retail.

Speaker 12 (07:40):
Spending that actually slipped point one percent, so consumers going
back into their shelves a little bit. Consumables that was
up one point one percent, Durables up one point two percent,
so spinding on essentials. But you look at that discretion
you spend that was down. Apparel down four point two percent,
hospitality down two point fort minutes, around thirty seven million

(08:00):
lower as well. In total, we made one hundred and
twenty one hundred and eighty two million transactions we spent
about ten billion dollars. There's still activity there, but a
lot of it is on fuel. Looking on the quarterly
basis up around one percent, but yeah, Mike, high fuel
costs are squeezing budgets obviously taking money away from discretionary expenditures.
So yeah, it all depends on where this conflict is

(08:22):
going to go.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, indeed, what happened to Netflix because the numbers look good,
they don't like read leaving because the market didn't react.

Speaker 11 (08:28):
Well, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 12 (08:30):
So again that the headline basis, things look pretty good.
Revenues up sixteen percent year on year, twelve point two
five billion, earnings nearly double, but they've got a big
kicker from the termination fee for their Warner Bross discovery.
They're falling through. So two point eight billion. Underline performance solid,
but not as solid as investors are expecting. So it

(08:52):
was eighteen percent there. She is actually down almost ten percent,
roughly flat over the past year. Guidance was weak and
expected as well. They still expect the double digit revenue growth,
but investors were looking for more and as you mentioned,
major leadership shifts. So co founder Retastings he's stepping down
from the board of nearly thirty years. Fun Fact actually
got the idea after getting a forty dollars late fee

(09:14):
on a VHG SW rental of Apollo thirteen, so back.

Speaker 11 (09:18):
In nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 12 (09:19):
So yeah, a bit of a story there, But you look,
they've got deep leadership, so they should be able to
move on from that. But that probably didn't help things.
They're still leaning into advertising and expect it to double
revenue to three twenty twenty six. It's all cracking down
a password sharing. They are also looking to raise prices
as well. They don't disclose quarterly membership numbers anymore, but
we do know they have three and twenty five million

(09:40):
of them globally earlier in the year. They're still spending.
There's still lots of content coming out. Strong results, yes,
but seems the outlook matters.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
More numbers please.

Speaker 12 (09:50):
We have got plenty of green numbers of guess the
optimism over that over straight which may be subsiding tonight,
but the Dow is up eight hundred and sixty eight
points four nine four four seven, S and P five
hundred up one point two cent seven one two six
one point two percent. That is record high for S
and P. Five hundred. Nere's tack up one and a
half percent two four four six eight. That is a

(10:11):
record high as well for one hundred up point seven
percent in the UK stocks fifty in Europe up one
and a half percent. Nick Gye down one point eight percent,
A six two hundred. That was down point one percent
eight nine four six ins x fifty. We were down
one point two percent twelve nine zero five. Gold up
forty bucks four eight three zero oil as whoopy is ever,
given the thought that the Strait was going to be open,

(10:31):
which is now not down down eleven dollars a three
point eighty five for w t I and the currency
markets key against the US dollar fifty eight point eight
a dollars eighty one point nine seven. Good time for
Rossi's coming in. Not so much over the ditch Mike,
that's down point four percent. That's a thirteen year low.
Fresh one British pound forty three point five Japanese year

(10:52):
ninety three point four down point four percent this week.
But going on trade data, dairy auction, we've got that
CPI number, We've got Somerset's AGM offshore use retail sales.
Some inflation you can Japan, and we've got results from
IBM Intel in the Mixed Express and all eyes on
the straight.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Of course, good on you mate, go well. Catch up.
Sir Greg Smith out of Generate Wealth and Kiwi Savers.

Speaker 13 (11:14):
Specialists, pasking have you already.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Said about the Australian dollar eighty one? I mean, how
embarrassing is that?

Speaker 11 (11:21):
Upgrade?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Big upgrade for the salmon the New Zealand King Salmon people,
which is good because they've been on quite a journey.
They were saying nine to fifteen million, they're now saying
nineteen to twenty seven and more. Fish harvest volumes was
five eight to sixty one hundred hours, five five to
fifty nine hundred so that's encouraging, so good on them.
Something to do with the summer and the feed and
it all worked out well. So anyone who's doing well

(11:43):
at the moment will take six twenty one. Every hus
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Speaker 1 (11:50):
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Speaker 2 (11:58):
So where do we end up with I'm trying to
think about this over the weekend. So Thomas Coglan, God
bless him. I don't know him. But you know, I've
read enough to know he's straight up and down. So
he's got his three sources from the National Party apparently,
so we don't know who they are. If I ever
find out who they are, going to name them, by
the way. In fact, I might ask Luxean off there
this morning and say to give me the names and
we'll just name and shame them. Anyway. So you got

(12:20):
those three and that's it. So we ended Friday with
that freaky little DejaVu thing. Remember what was it two three, four,
five weeks ago that we had Luxeon in this very
studio and I said, are you going to be the
leader of the National Party going to the election? Yes
I am, hand on heart, Yes I am. It had
that vibe about it, journalists drumming up things. That was
the twenty eight and a half percent poll. Remember he
was going home to consider his position, which wasn't true.

(12:43):
And so we ended Friday with three nameless, spineless, gormless
idiots in the National Party who want to talk to
Thomas Coglin. And that's it. And we don't have a challenger.
We have no coup, we have no spill, we have
no numbers, and I have the Herald this morning, going
in Pisa, arriving in Wellington? Is that a thing? I
think they go to Wellington every Monday. I don't think
that's news. So where do I go with this? Help

(13:05):
me out? Six twenty five.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
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Speaker 2 (13:12):
The Beebs is back hot office Coachella set, which in
mainstream media was panned, but online I noted didn't go
down nearly as badly. Anyway, last night he did the
same thing again, turned up on the hoodie, mainly played
his new songs, took requests from the live stream, played
the old material from YouTube, and he provided the backup
on the vocals. The twist this time, there's a twist.
They were the guests. Guest won Billie English.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Less than a Girl.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Question first stas well, this sounds like he's having an
here's what the critics scene. Anyway, it wasn't done with it.
Then you had scissors, snow.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
You just.

Speaker 14 (13:58):
Let you do.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Reviews on this one. I picked up a bit apparently,
but as I said, he doesn't really care. He's just
living his own life and God bless them for it. Now,
this New Zealand first thing, we'll talk to Winston. Shortly
they're going to campaign on the business of breaking up
the supermarkets, and a lot of you will go Hellelujah,
Praise the Lord. My question for Winston is why hasn't
he done this already? So there's a lot of jaw

(14:22):
boning going on to the government for the last couple
of years, led mainly by Nikola Willis. She's suspicious about
the banks and the tailcos and the supermarkets, and they've
got that grocery commissioner who seems to be next to useless. Anyway,
Winston's going to split them up. But the problem with
it is, of course an MMP, you've got to actually
make it a bottom line, which he hasn't, which means

(14:43):
it then goes into the coalition talks, which may or
may not see the light of day. And if you
believe the polls are in opposition anyway, because the coup
is on. So what am I supposed to do with
Winston Peters after the news? Am I supposed to talk
to them about supermarkets or not? Help me out with
that one as well.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
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Speaker 3 (15:09):
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
Hearing up around too in Pakistan tomorrow Richard Arnold State
site for It's twenty three minutes away from seven back home.
The supermarket's now part of the election campaign. New Zealand
First will break up the new opoly. They will split
flout Stuffs into a couple of competing brands, one for
you will the other pack can say that would put
them in competition of course with Woolworths and Winston Peters
is with us on that's very good morning to you.

Speaker 14 (15:29):
Good morning, you have a good weekend, Yes, thank you.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Good No bottom lines, I take it this isn't the
bottom line.

Speaker 14 (15:38):
Well no, it's not a bottom line. It's just common sense.
Faintly h and we should have.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Done it years ago, Yeah, we should. Why aren't you
doing it now while you're in government?

Speaker 14 (15:46):
Because of their part because the National Party is not
for it, The A Party is not for it. I
mean they've got the policies which are to stagger on
with the commission Commerce Commission that's not working. The Air
Party's policy was the Grocery's Commissioner, which is a totally
toothless tiger and we need to do something dramatically like
they did in Australia.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
But what about Nicholas's she didn't like the supermarket to
be a better word with her.

Speaker 14 (16:10):
Well, you know, sooner or later you are into a
campaign mode. We're six months away from the election and
if it hasn't happened now, then perhaps we should put
it in zeral people and tell them to give us
the tools we will finish the job.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Problem with it is and you know this, and this
is MMP and the problem with it if you don't
make it a bottom line, it may or may not survive.
And that's just life, isn't it.

Speaker 14 (16:33):
Well, look, when you say that sort of thing, I
had parties with the bottom lines and frankly, whichland have worked.
We don't go in with bottom lines. We go and
to get the maximum amount of votes, to get the
max amount of influence to do things and change things.
And that's what we seem to do now. We worked
really hard. We've kept ourselves focused on the real issues
in this country, the poles arising for us, and this

(16:54):
is going to be a seminal inflection election, make no
bones about it. You zie have to decide where they're
going to go with two old parties that are staggered
on with Taia for forty years, and we're going to
do something dramatically new.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well, when you say the old parties, you can't do
your friends nationals your friends, what are you talking about?
Your in government?

Speaker 13 (17:09):
Excuse me?

Speaker 14 (17:11):
I'm the only guys who have been expelled from the
National Party.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, not this nation.

Speaker 14 (17:14):
You know that, don't you? Hang on? You know that,
don't you?

Speaker 13 (17:16):
Of course I do, But that is we live where
we have to go.

Speaker 14 (17:20):
Despite all those circumstances and all the personalities involved, the
public expect us to provide a stable government, but stable
government doing sound things.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
The grocery commissioner does he stay? And if he or
she stays, do they get more powers? Because as you say,
they are point it's pointless.

Speaker 14 (17:37):
Well, if the grocery' commissions for stage, he or she
is going to have to have dramatically new powers with
speed and decision so that when they find things go wrong,
that happens. The change happens within twenty four hours, not
twenty four years.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, and what about the Commerce commission? Do they have
enough power to do anything? Or had they got the power,
they just don't want to do anything.

Speaker 14 (17:57):
Well, no, they haven't got the power. And thank he
sad thing about these veealers. We've got so many bodies
like that, the Banker's Commission, all these things that are
put up to blindside the opponents of capitalism. Well, then
what I might call the unbridal face of capitalism and
not change things. And we want to see this country
change in the sense that you know, in a former

(18:18):
time with half the population, we were number one in
the world.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
What all right, lux and what should he do? Should
he quit?

Speaker 14 (18:28):
I know, you know I can't answer that sort of questions.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Were not why not?

Speaker 14 (18:32):
Well, because I've got no influence on that issue whatsoever.
It's not my role to start saying what other parties do.
My job is to focus, like you know, and then
therefore on what my party is doing and how we're
going to do things that are going forward, not talk
about other peal parties, because in the end, the masters
of that decision are the people that are listening to
your various station.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Now, But what would you say if you were the
leader of it? I mean that he's got white enters
in there. I mean one of the things he did,
and you've got a credit and this as he tidied
the party up disciplinarily speaking, and now they're white anting him.
What would you do with that?

Speaker 15 (19:07):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (19:07):
Look, they have always been white answer and political parties.
I can recall coming to Parliament way back in the
seventies and I hardly arrived there. In some of my
colleagues who are in the ten, you know, the ten
that they got left that year. We're conspiring against then
prime minister. And I thought myself, even been here for
five minutes, you don't know what dad is? Why are

(19:28):
you part and parcel of sort of talk about getting
rid of the prime minister? But it's been going on
for years, of.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Course it has. But you're adjacent to this in the
sense you're in an arrangement with these people. And this
looks bad for the lot of you, doesn't. I mean
it's not your fault, but I mean it's just we've
got bigger things to think about, haven't we.

Speaker 14 (19:45):
Look, everything you've said is right, but it's not my
job to say And how do how long would this
conversation go if I started saying what other parties should
do about their leaders?

Speaker 11 (19:55):
Now?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
That is well, I get that part. But my question
is if lux and quit, is that into the coalition
deal in the sense that you, being a lawyer, you
would go, well, hold on, didn't sign up to this,
We're out.

Speaker 14 (20:07):
No, no, no. To someone who was to quit, that
is their choice. After all, at the end of the day,
no one is required to sort of do the distance.
If they're for medical reasons, for family reasons, for the
reasons they would have quit, you have to accept that.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, but what about for stabbing in the back reasons?

Speaker 14 (20:25):
Well, right about then, Mike, he's not quitting easy, Well,
he's being assassinated.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yes he is, it's exact. But if he gets assassinated,
do you pull the pin on the coalition?

Speaker 11 (20:39):
Ah?

Speaker 14 (20:39):
No, no, no, no, no, I'll discussed. Sorry. Look, I'm
focusing on what required in this election, and we are
going to go out there and turn these damn poles
upside down because the country district needs. And then if
we don't win, this country's going to be a nightmare. Said,
We've got a big enough shuner than worrying about who
temporary leads a national party.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Well, so appreciate it very much, Winston, Peter, send you.
It'll be fun ten minutes away from seven the.

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Speaker 17 (22:11):
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Speaker 2 (22:14):
Was everyone turning up or not?

Speaker 17 (22:17):
You know the word we're hearing most of these days
is whiplash, So tell you tomorrow. Trump says he's sending
a delegation in the US delegation back to Pakistan for
another round of peace talks tomorrow, he says, but Iran
said initially they won't be part of it. Now they're
suggesting that they won't retreat from diplomacy. So h we'll see,
won't we. Trump is accusing Iran of violating the curren

(22:39):
cease fire by firing on a couple of ships in
the straight up Moves with shots fired also had a
French ship and a British freight up that wasn't nice
as Trump in the social media post. An Indian vessel
also was threatened by the Iranians and the ship's captain
radioed his alarm.

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Speaker 11 (23:08):
Quote.

Speaker 17 (23:09):
The United States is going to knock out every single
power plant and every single bridge in a run, which
he says is losing five hundred million dollars US a
day because of the blockade. The Runians claim that blockade
also violates the ceasefire, and their deputy foreign minister, sayed
Count Hims a Day says there is no chance of
Iran sending it's partially enrich uranium to the US of

(23:29):
A, as Trump has been calling for.

Speaker 19 (23:32):
He says, no enriched material is going to be shipped
to the United States.

Speaker 13 (23:38):
This is not as starter.

Speaker 11 (23:39):
Well.

Speaker 17 (23:39):
Jonathan Carr with American ABC spoke with Trump a couple
of times today and says he threatened a run. During
one call, he accounts what Trump told him it.

Speaker 20 (23:48):
Will happen one way or another, the nice way or
the hard ware.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
It is going to happen.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
You can quote me on that.

Speaker 11 (23:56):
Well.

Speaker 17 (23:56):
Trump's Uan ambassador Mike Waltz describes things in this fashion.

Speaker 20 (24:01):
The outcome of these talks will be incredibly consequential, and
as the President is stated, he is prepared to escalate,
to de escalate, he is prepared to actually board and
turn around Iranian ships, even as far east as the Pacific.

Speaker 17 (24:19):
Ocean, seriously boarding tankers taking oil off to China, just
days before Trump is supposed to meet with the Chinese president.
She so, will there be another round of peace talks?
We don't know. Will there be a deal? We don't know,
but it sounds extraordinarily difficult or around. And if there
was a deal, there are still hundreds of small boats
being operated by Iran. To clear those lanes could take
weeks and weeks if they find mines, it could take

(24:40):
weeks more to clear the mind. So, Chris Wright, the
US Energy Secretary, was asked today how long it might
be in the best possible circumstances for the return of
regular oil supplies at prices that we saw before the war.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
His entered, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (24:56):
That could happen later this year, that might not happen
till next year.

Speaker 17 (25:00):
May not be what Wall Streets were hoping for last Friday.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Right, No, do not what happened to LaGuardia.

Speaker 17 (25:05):
Well, here's a story that did end well, but for
a time it certainly did not appear. So it was
during a flight from New York to Chicago when United
Dames crew heard a strange noise from below the cockpitter,
sort of tapping. They said, certainly a worrying We're.

Speaker 13 (25:21):
Getting a spected item on board.

Speaker 21 (25:26):
We're going to have to start turning it as a potential.

Speaker 17 (25:30):
Pop, a potential bomb. Well, they made an emergency landing
in in Pittsburgh. All on board were told to exit
via the emergency shoots as fast as possible. Eighteen year
old passenger Ella Froburg says it was a pretty frantic
situation around on the ground.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
They just was telling people to run away from the plane.
I thought the plane was going to blow up or something.

Speaker 17 (25:54):
They were met by the bomb squad racing in. She says,
of the situation was.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
A lot of and there was a lot of screaming crying.

Speaker 17 (26:01):
From the one hundred and sixty five folks on board.
The bob squad found nothing of interest and could not
explain the source of the tapping noise. Don't you just
hate it when that happened?

Speaker 2 (26:10):
I reckon all right? Catch up on Wednesday appreciate it.
By the way, Quinnipiac survey out over the weekend, sixty
five percent of US voters blamed Trump either a lot
or some for the price of gas. He said, price
gas moren't that high, but most of American disagrees with them,
nine to seven.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Ranger of a Sport SV
News togstead V the.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Last week of the week before I can never remember.
The commodity prices came out and we're setting records all
over the place. And this is why, or in part
why cattle prices in America have settled at two dollars
fifty one a pound. Does that a lot? You bet
it is. It's the highest price on record going back
to the sixties. As in the nineteen sixties, each contract
is for forty pounds of live cattle, which is typically

(26:51):
thirty to thirty five head of finished slaughter ready cattle.
No one likes to grill a cattle more than the Americans,
so the contract has jumped more than twenty five percent
over the past twelve months. Slash the size of herds
because no one can afford it, and they've got drought.
Of course, cattle slaughter has tumbled the two point two million,
down from two point five million a year earlier. Beef
production is down three hundred thousand pounds to one point

(27:13):
nine million over the same period. US cattle herd now
stands at its smaller since the nineteen fifties, so they
haven't got any cows, and what cows they have cost
a fortune enter in z Ink and that is why
we will continue to do well because and that's before
you get to the dollar, because it's dirt cheap and
they will continue to bring it in. So that's why

(27:34):
we'll continue to do well with the commodities, because they've
got trouble and that trouble's not ending anytime soon. Five
away from seven.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
The inns are the outs.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
It's the farz with business fiber take your business productivity
to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
We're going Queenstown. At the moment, the Environment called has
greenlit what they're calling the tourism zone for Walter Peak
and the High Country Farm. So four years that's been
going on. Mediation between the farm Zoner Real New Zealand
and the queens Own Lake's District Council. Don't you love
a good district council? Eh, who doesn't love a good
district council when it comes to cracking on suddenly? Currently
the farm offers a dining experience. You got a farm too,

(28:11):
you got some horse tricks, and you got the unslaw.
Of course, the real New Zealand now upgrading one hundred
and fifty five hectares is what we're talking about. They're
going to turn it into a quote unquote premium product
at scale, so bautique, visitor accommodation. You'll have some hot pools,
you'll have some stargazing, even some stargazing from a hot
pool and event venues. Those saunas on the lake front.

(28:34):
So you go down to the lakefront and you hop
in a sauna with a window out on the lake.
Are you into that saunering? No one loves a sauna
more than I do, but I do it privately. There
were some people at the house yesterday working and I
went out to the sauna naked, and somebody, namely the
person I married too, goes, why do you walk around
naked while there's people on the property. And I said,

(28:55):
they're on a different part of the property. They'll never
see me. So she's freaking out. Anyway, The point being
I sauna well naked obviously, but privately, and I'm not
going down to the Queenstown waterfront to sauna and public.

Speaker 14 (29:09):
You know that people are trying to eat breakfast as Storryay.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
I was just talking about the stargazing and the hot pools. Anyway,
they're going to continue restoring the area, some reforestation, some
pest control. We had some pest control at our place.
He came around, he shot the bunny. He's got three
of them and he sent his dog on them. That's
our wilson and this gun. Now terms of dollars, companies
doing some modeling as we speak on the potential increase

(29:32):
to visit the numbers and spending. But it's all good
in Queen's now. So a little bit about Queen's sound,
a little bit about my wetness now. Randy Manor, who
we've had him on before, former US Army Major General,
ad vice chief of the US National Guard. So round
two is this done? Does it have this vibe? It
has this vibe to me that it's coming to a
head this week. So we'll talk about epic fury and

(29:53):
then of course Christopher luxA after seven thirty meantime, US this.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Next incredible the breakfast show you can't miss.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities,
Life Your Way, News talks.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Head being seven past seven, so I might let's be
the weekly epic. Fury finally comes to some sort of
end Round two of talks in Pakistan, the straight over
of the weekend open and shot. Of course. Randy Manner
is the former US Army major general and buce chief
of the US National Guard. Back with us. Randy, morning
to you, Good morning to you, sir. Is this begin
to bang some heads and they'll get there in the
end type vibe to it to you or not.

Speaker 22 (30:30):
I'll tell you what I'm just the whole thing goes
up and down, backwards and forwards. Unfortunately, I have to
say that the Iranians have assess the situation probably the
most accurate, which is there's inconsistency on the American position
and we just don't know where this is going.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
So are you hopeful for the week or you literally
wouldn't have a clue.

Speaker 22 (30:52):
I don't mean to laugh, but this is a situation
where I cannot predict the unpredictableness of this American president.
I certainly am hopeful. I'm always hopeful because we need
the world to return to a piece of stability and
less chaos, and we need to get those gas prices down.
We need to be able to keep people safe on

(31:13):
all sides, and I certainly hope that's where we go.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
You'll sint in America, you can help us out with
us the average American, they are feeling it. We know
that numerically. Is it a thing that is haunting the
president politically or can he get away with it for now?

Speaker 22 (31:30):
So I think this is haunting the president incredibly. While
there are and I'm not acting as a polster, there's
hardcore mag of people, maybe twenty percent, that support him
no matter what he would do, the reality is those
more moderate Republicans and middle Republicans are abandoning him left
and right. The Republicans have not won a major election

(31:51):
in the past year, and they're losing in every single
area as we go forward. So the President is probably
very concerned about what's going to go happened between now
and November.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
If this happens this week, that some sort of deal
is cut, and you will have hear the president died
of the weekend saying the going to get that nuclear
dust with these big diggas and they're going to pull
it away. If all of that comes to pass, is
he a hero and hasn't been worth it? Do you think.

Speaker 22 (32:17):
This is absolutely not worth it? From my point of
view as a retired military officer who served in the
Middle East as the deputy commanding General third US Army,
it's not worth it. The objectives were never clear. They're
still not clear. This is something where it is. Any
nation has three powers. They have economic power, they have

(32:38):
diplomatic power, and they have military power. This president seemed
to go right to the military power without truly exhausting
the diplomatic and economic spending one day with the vice
president in Pakistan and saying, oh, we're done here. That
was hard work. That does not make any sense to
me whatsoever. It takes many hard sessions of negotiating to

(32:59):
get people to come to some kind of understanding together.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Appreciate your expertise. As always, we'll get you back. Brandy Manner,
who's the former US Army major general and vice president
of the US National Guard. Ten minutes past seven, back time,
government looking to lower the legal weight of the treaty
in law we find out over the weekend, or at
least some law anyway, can it agreed this is back
in February to limit obligations to the treaty principles, to
know more than take into account. Official advice apparently said

(33:23):
the change had no apparent benefits and carry significant risks
to marry crown relations. Perhaps not surprisingly, Paul Goldsmith is
of course the Justice Minister ends with us morning, good morning,
how I'm well, thank you. Why are you doing this
on the QT? Where are all the press releases?

Speaker 23 (33:37):
Well, it's not on the QT. It's just as part
of the coalition agreement. It's been well known and flagged
for a long period of time that we're going to
look at the many variety of treaty references that we've
inherited over the last thirty years. A classoscope of honor,
the treaty taken into account give effect, to have regard
to end a wide range of description and so the

(34:00):
point of the exercise was to try and get some
consistency there with references to the principles of the Treaty
of Waitangi. And so we've made some cabint decisions. We're
going to announce them at the appropriate time, and so
that's what we're.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Doing, no apparent benefits. Do you agree with that or not?

Speaker 23 (34:21):
No, I don't agree with that, Otherwise we wouldn't be
doing it. I mean, obviously there's a variety of views
on this topic, but we just wanted to get some
clarity instead of having all this wide variety of things.
So basically, what we've looked at is is about twenty
eight pieces of legislation that refer to the principles of
the treaty. About ten of them were going to be
dealing with through separate arrangements, like the Resource Management Act,

(34:42):
which is going through separately as Conservation Act separately, we're
focused on eighteen of them. Will remove the reference entirely
for five or six of them because it just makes
no sense, has no relevance, and the others we're going
to be clearer about now. The This is a process
that will take a little bit time. We're going to

(35:03):
introduce legislation in a couple of months. We're consulting with
EWE leaders at the moment, and then it will go
through a select committee process.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
You dragged kicking and screaming into this. This is more
new Zealand first than you, isn't it?

Speaker 23 (35:18):
No, No, it's Carlston commitment and we agree with it. It
was something that New Zealand First were keeaen to see
and so I'm the one charged with carrying it out
and that's what we're doing.

Speaker 13 (35:28):
All right.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
I appreciate your time, Paul Goldsmith, Minister of Justice. It
is thirteen minutes past seven, Like these poles are wrecked, Well,
no they're not. The latest TV one poll was released
on Sunday rather than the usual Monday. Why to create
maximum negative press for the Prime Minister? Maybe maybe not.
They can release it, they own it, they buy it,
they can release it wherever they want. Did they do

(35:49):
it on a Sunday to get some talk going on
a Monday? Of course they did, But you know you
can't blame them for that. My question two questions out
of last night's poll, probably three questions, Actually, is New
Zealand first on ten or fifteen? Last week the poll
had them on fifteen. This week it's ten. Now are
you seriously telling me that either of those numbers are correct? Well,
one might be, but they can't both be correct. Obviously,
last night's pole had the Marry Party on six seats.

(36:11):
We know they won't be winning six seats this time
around for obvious reasons. Therefore, what's their percentage? It's two
So if they win one seat, maybe I think Rahwari's
going to hold a seat one plus two percent. That's
not six seats, so that pole no longer counts. And
the other thing I'd like to ask is is anybody
in the polling industry asking questions around cost of this
at the moment? Given the poles are so variable, they

(36:35):
must know that they carry less and less weight. The
more random numbers that pop up in these polls, the
more people one question their validity and two show any interest.
And therefore, at some point you've got to go, is
this worth us spending the sort of money we're doing
on this, because there seem to be a hell of
a lot of them. Fourteen past the like asking Breakfast

(36:56):
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Speaker 2 (37:02):
Chris of Eluction shortly Lad with the tell you what
that motor racing over the weekend? I mean I watch
all the motor racing over the weekend, of course, and
it was another supercar's weekend, But that was the best
meeting and christ Church got huge raps out of the
Australian commentary team. That was the most successful meeting certainly
this year and by a mile and quite possibly for
a number of years. But more on that later. Seventeen

(37:23):
pass Now the call went out over the weekend from
the Greens, of course, to build a mass national electrification
plan troublers. Not a lot of ships or planes or
trucks run on electricity. Of course, Now Mike Casey is
with rewiring our TI Rahi's the boss and he's with
us morning.

Speaker 21 (37:38):
Mike, how are you mate?

Speaker 11 (37:39):
Very well?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Indeed, I've been thinking about you in the last few
weeks and I thought you'll turn up on the show eventually.
So there are no pipes that aren't made of oil
and there are no ships that run on batteries. So
what can we do more electricity wise that will help
us out in a future epic fury?

Speaker 21 (37:59):
Yeah, First of all, you're one hundred percent right that
not everything can be electrified with today's technology. We've got
about ten million machines in New Zealand. Eight hundred thousand
cannot be electrified, yet about a million can be electrified
with a little bit of effort and about eight and
a half million machines can be electrified with today's technology.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
But you would agree that most of the economy, and
this has been the big learning out of the war,
most of the economy runs on oil, rightly or wrongly.

Speaker 21 (38:23):
Seventy three percent of our economy runs on energy, fossil
fuels that are largely sourced from overseas. So yeah, really
really expensive, and we have a hell of a long
way to go.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
And so what could you reduce if you had a
magic wand what could you reduce that seventy three percent
by tomorrow?

Speaker 21 (38:38):
To be honest, I couldn't tell you offhand exactly what
that would be. But my focus is mainly on households
at the moment, which is basically gas in the households
and also electrical vehicles putting solar on the roof and
batteries in the garage. We've got to start somewhere. I'm
not going to say that that's going to be a
significant dent in the overall oil consumption, but as more
and more technology comes into play, potentially we might get
that seventy three percent down something substantially. The whole point

(39:01):
at the moment really is how do we run as
much of our economy as we can off New Zealand
made energy rather than energy source from overseas.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
And the next part of the discussion I heard it's
somewhere last week in factor is the moment you talk
about solar on households or batteries and stuff. If somebody
wants a loan, you know they want the counsel in
bold or the government involved and they want, you know,
free money or cheap money or whatever. Can it be
done simply by going mate, put some panels on your roof.
It makes sense, it's logical, and that's just a cost
of life or not.

Speaker 21 (39:28):
Yeah, So the biggest issue is just the upfront capital
cost for New Zealanders. Most New Zealanders don't have fifteen
twenty thousand dollars in their back pockets, so they have
to finance solar. Financing solar is amazing because the savings
from solar will pay back the capital cost plus the
interest cost and probably still give your family about one
thousand dollars a year of additional savings. So it's absolutely awesome.

(39:48):
The green loans. At the moment they are eligible, well
about twenty percent of households in New Zealand are eligible
for those greenloads from the banks. What we're wanting is
other finance products in the market to basically hit maybe
up to about ninety percent. And that's that thing called
the ratepayer's assistance game.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, do you reckon something material will come out of
epic fury? In other words, a lot of people went
and bought an EV. Do you think something tangible will
change out of the war?

Speaker 21 (40:13):
Well, have you bought Kate Harry V yet?

Speaker 2 (40:14):
I have not, so, so we're not there yet.

Speaker 21 (40:17):
So I think my life will be complete the moment
that Mike Hostking buys an electric vehicle and there's an
electric vehicle on the Hosking Hawksbury house and maybe some
solo on the roof. So we're obviously not there yet.
But you know, if that can happen in your household,
then I think most New Zealand household can probably do it.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Good on us to catch up Mike Case rewiring rt
R from the beautiful Central Otago, Mike loving Randy on
the show. Securing something of that level of experience and
expertise is impressive. Gave me a good understanding of what
the Americans think about the war and Trump. Our pleasure.
That's what we're here for. Mike of Old Goldi's affected
with the removal of the principles of the treaty as
he is with the BSA. Then what a waste of time.

(40:53):
He's Sir Humphrey's dream politician year. He's not sitting any
speed records, Old Goldie is. He's seven twenty.

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Health asking seven twenty four. Well you know how it's
going to go today, don't you? The Prime Minister does
the media arounds this morning, no shortage of cortisol spike,
journos looking to hang off every word, double dissectivey, pause
and utterance, many of them desperate to be able to
write something disparaging about a bloke. Too. Many of them
have decided they hate I wouldn't be luxe. And for Quitz,
he has been dealt a shitthand worse Though than the media,

(42:36):
the Stirr is in his own party. The self preservation
and selfishness being displayed is a disgrace. Here's how I
see life. You buy into a deal, right, and you
stick to it. You join a company, you take a job,
you make a promise, whatever. In an MP's case, you
are part of a three year deal. In that time
you were honest, transparent, hard working, loyal and dedicated. Clearly,

(42:57):
and history shows National has an issue with this. We
have a few at the moment who want to potentially
put themselves in their survival first. As I said Friday,
nothing's coming of this. I mean, Luxon isn't quitting. There
is no coup. They don't have the numbers, they don't
have the balls. And here's the truly mental thing about
their idiocy. Given there is actually a major issue. The
more importantly is no major answer. National strength is that

(43:19):
they have a lot of talent, good number of decent operators,
from Willis to Bishop Stanford, Mitchell, Brown, Penk Maclay, et cetera.
They're all good at their job. But no one is
turning a tide. This isn't Little Adourn and it's certainly
not Shipley, Bulger palm LONGI I mean, when you panic,
history has your Lesson look to history. There is in
fact nothing majorly wrong with Luxon. No, he isn't key,

(43:39):
he's not garned the either, but he's competent, effective and
leads to successful co labor of three parties. The fact
national a thirty ish ship percent is an outworking of
a decent government that has three solid parties involved in it.
The fact the idiot's causing the trouble can't see the
days of forty percent being over shouldn't be played out
in public worth destabilizing nonsense. Peter doesn't say team or

(44:00):
should be equally concerned. As far as I can work out,
they are surrounded by fools and amateur political operators and
national that we'll see all of them in opposition. So
we'll ask the questions. But in the most troubled of times,
I mean, really, in the most troubled times, isn't it
so small town New Zealand to be bogged down and
villageitio seed driven by self serving go nowhere is his
interest is about two centimeters in front of their noses

(44:22):
instead of important matters of global significance and how we
work our way through it asking. None of them seem
to understand my logic and the polls the days of
forty percent part he had gone, Mike, are you saying
that we the taxpayers are paying for these poles?

Speaker 12 (44:36):
Now?

Speaker 2 (44:36):
I'm not saying that at all. All I'm saying is
there are plenty of people in the corporate world, mainly
our TV inst is separate. Of course, they've got their
own budget. That's not taxpayers. They run their own money
from commercials. But if I was paying money for poles,
and there are lots of people who do, I'd be
seriously looking at my budget because at the end of
the day, what is it you're getting?

Speaker 13 (44:54):
Now?

Speaker 2 (44:55):
There are so many of these poles, and they all
tell a different story. In the broadest of senses, it's
roughly the same National and labor big parties. The other
guys are small parties. But once you start getting down
to two here, one there, three up, four down, it's
a crapshoot, and you're paying. The polls cost tens of
thousands of dollars to run each and every time, and

(45:16):
if I had a budget for them, I'd be seriously
questioning whether they offer any real relevance anymore. Anyway, Prime Minister, shortly,
news is next to Nestorg set.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
As if we made it here, then we made it.
There's no fluff, just facts and fierce debate.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
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Speaker 2 (45:41):
Twenty three minutes away promote Prime Minister's with Uspring. Good
morning to you, Michael. We'll get to you know what
in just a couple of months. Just let me take
off the Chinese thing and the serious protest. Is this
a serious protest? Is this the thing with the Air
Force or not?

Speaker 19 (45:53):
No, we've explained our position. We were completely inside international law,
completely inside civil aviation precautions. We've explained that to the Chinese,
and ZF's been pretty transparent about it.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Okay, the petrol deal is coming, when Nicholas said from
Washington the other day, soon this week or not.

Speaker 19 (46:09):
We're in conversations right now with parties. Obviously can't talk
about the timing and the component parts of that. It's
commercially sensitive. But what we're looking for. Remember, there is
additional supply over and above everything we've got.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Okay, are you sick of this? Which parting, the speculative
bullshit and the endless myopic nonsense. It's coming out from
the back bench of your party.

Speaker 19 (46:31):
Well, you hear me all the time say I don't
comment on poles because.

Speaker 15 (46:34):
Last week I was led to believe.

Speaker 19 (46:35):
We had a coalition gunm would be re elected and
Ran stated with a ten MP majority. Yes, how she
needs to improve this last poll Yes, last night it
says that you know the public mus I want to
put in Chriss Sipkins and the Greens into party. Mario,
I don't believe that what's needed right now is strong
economic management and stable coalition government, and that's what I
think we're delivering. Do you believe your polling, our own polling, Yes, yes,

(46:58):
yes I do. But I do think there's an acknowledgment
that there is a massive demographic shift in New Zealand.
I'm not sure all polls are covering all of that,
but by the time I'm going to that level of detail,
it sounds like I'm being defensive about polls.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
No, because I'm just looking at a couple of things.
Last week New Zealand first was fifteen and this morning
allegedly they're ten.

Speaker 15 (47:16):
Which is that's the problem.

Speaker 19 (47:18):
I've seen polls in a given week where I've had
one that has us at thirty six, one that would
have us at thirty you know, just a couple months ago.
So you can get bounced around by poles and I
listened to it to a degree, but at the end
of the day, the public do not want me fixated
on that that. You know, we've seen examples in the
Australian election.

Speaker 15 (47:35):
Where polls were all over the place.

Speaker 19 (47:37):
So you've got to listen to it because there's some
genuinely good feedback in there about you know, you know
what you need to do better, which is good, but
equally our main focus is deliver the deliver economic.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Are you disappointed because one of the first things you
did when you came in to lead the National Party
was tidy up the discipline that seems now not to
be working.

Speaker 19 (47:57):
Yeah, well we'll discuss that at Tuesday at caucus again,
because you're dead right.

Speaker 13 (48:02):
You know.

Speaker 19 (48:02):
The feeling is that when you get disunity in a
party and people talking about that publicly, that just says
to the New Zealand public or to anybody that actually,
if you can't manage yourself, you can't run the country.
And it's pretty simple and you just got to look
at the UK Conservative experience, the Australian Liberal experience, the
National Party twenty twenty experience, and so we did spend

(48:23):
a lot of time rebuilding our team, getting a good
culture in place, unifying it, finding a way to win,
unifying and building a coalition government for the first time.
That's I think being very strong and stable and doing
the right thing for New Zealanders and very difficult times.
Why are they behaving the way they are, Well, they'll
be frustrated. There'll be some frustrated, like there will be
in every party. You know, people who have been either

(48:44):
missed out for promotion, maybe in a marginal seat, and
understandably concerned and worried. I want all of those MP's
in my caucus return to parliament. I think they all
have something to offer, and they all work incredibly hard
and all pretty smart, and so I really want them
to be able to come back to government.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
The difficulty is, I mean, it comes down to personal
sort of interest, doesn't it. At the end of the day,
when you come in on a tide, which you had,
some are going to go out in the tide. It
is a rare day that a party that goes in
on the tide, then holds the tide, if not increases
the tide. That's just politics.

Speaker 19 (49:16):
Yeah, and I think like in an MMP environment, if
you look at I studied all the MMP elections in
Western Europe over a number of years now, and you're
saying they're always very tight. But everything that's why it
always you always hear I say in election, Yeah, party vote,
party vote, because as good as an individual candidate may
be in their electorate, I've seen some very good candidates
lose on a party wave, and it's a combination of

(49:38):
we think you've got to drive the party vote and
run a good tidy campaign in your local electric.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
So Thomas Coglan, as I've said a number of times
with the show, I don't personally know the guy, but
I don't think he makes stuff up. He's got three sources.
Are they more than three in your party that are problems?

Speaker 19 (49:52):
I read the article, you know there'll be a handful
of people who understand it would be disgrunted.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
What's a hodful fibes five?

Speaker 19 (50:00):
I'd say, so there's probably five people that are moaning
and frustrated.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
I know the refive obviously you didn't just know, but
I'm just I'm just.

Speaker 19 (50:07):
I'm saying of people that I could think that could
possibly be talking to media about their frustrations, that's all
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
What do you do about them?

Speaker 19 (50:15):
Well, we need to reiterate the case for why we
need discipline because we've seen the cases as we've had
from our own experience as a national party where we
broke the party essentially in a civil war. That's just counterproductive.
We're a long way from that. It's just that any
sign of this you want to stamp it out early
and hard.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Is Bishop part of it in any way, shape or
form or not.

Speaker 19 (50:33):
No, he's given me, as you've seen public reassurances in
my backing Chris and I even last night we had
a one on one call on a number of topics
and gave me as private backing as well. So privately
or publicly, no, he's fully behind me.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Would you accept that this has come about rightly or
wrongly to some degree because you're not quite what people
wanted you to be?

Speaker 19 (50:57):
Well, I get it, people not everyone want me at
their barbecue, But I think New Zealanders would say that
you know, I'm able to provide a leadership with a
government that's able to deliver economic competency and be a
good custodian of the economy.

Speaker 15 (51:10):
Let's just back up the truck a bit.

Speaker 19 (51:12):
We've all come through COVID, we're dealing with inflation recession,
We've dealt with Trump's tarifs, we're dealing with whether events,
we're dealing.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
With fuel crises, and we're all over it.

Speaker 19 (51:19):
I mean, everyone is tired and grumpy and wants us
to get through this. And I think, you know, as
challenging as it is in the world, as challenging as
our environments and our challenges are, you know, we are
doing the right things to work incredibly hard to set
this country up well for its future, and we can
get through.

Speaker 15 (51:35):
These choppy waters to the side.

Speaker 13 (51:36):
But we just need.

Speaker 19 (51:37):
Strong hands on the tiller who understand the economy.

Speaker 15 (51:40):
And that's what I do.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Because the problem, the problem with this is it was
March six that I asked you whether we're still going
to be the leader of the National Party, and you said,
hands on heart, you are. And I want to ask
again because I assume the answer is exactly the same,
the same answer has changed. But the problem is that
you have we have this morning, what we had on
March the sixth, which was scuttle but no challenger, no spill,

(52:01):
no numbers, just a handful of half wits at the
back of the National Party who want to cause trouble. Yeah,
so that's why unless that stops, yes, it will be
corrosive to your chances of winning this election.

Speaker 19 (52:13):
Correct, And that's exactly the message to the caucus. And
they get that. It's just poor discipline and loose talk.
And you know, again, we need to make sure that
everybody understands. You know, Yeah, I've watched political parties come
and go and fall fall over. It's because when you
don't have tightness and you don't have unity, and you
don't have everyone being disciplined. Actually, which we've been incredibly

(52:34):
disciplined up until this point. You know, we've actually had
forty nine new MPs. We're forty nine MP's big caucus.
We're in government. All forty nine would love to be ministers.
I get it, but it's impossible for that to happen.
And so you know, a lot of them are working
incredibly hard on their seek committees and their local community
is doing an amazing job. And I want them all
coming back and that's our job. We know we've got
more work to do. We know we have to do better,

(52:56):
but that's that's about us managing.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Talk to Peters and see more about this, because if
I was them, I'd be concerned that your problem's my problem.

Speaker 13 (53:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (53:03):
No, we haven't had an explicit conversation about it, but
we know that, you know, as a as a three
way coalition, something that's unique to New Zealand. I think
we've delivered stable government for New Zealand. A lot of
people at the time Mike remember said this ain't going
to work. Luxin isn't going to be able to hold
this together. We have held it together. We've leveraged the
talents and of the party, of the ministers that we've
brought each party is brought to the team, got them

(53:25):
on the right assignments. I think, you know, we've delivered
a lot of really good things for news Ealand and
we've got to continue that work.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
So no one seems to accept my logic. My logic
is this that you are the victim of your own success.
In other words, New Zealand First, whatever they happen to be,
they're doing okay. At the moment. There are ten they
are ten percent party ish thereabouts, act something similar maybe
seven or eight. When you've got fifty percent center right,
center left, it's a tight race. Your fifty percent doesn't
work with you on forty right. You've got two half

(53:54):
decent parties in your coalition with with twenty percent of
the vote, you've only got thirty left. You are you are, Yes,
you'd like thirty three or thirty five or thirty six,
but you're not going to get it anymore.

Speaker 19 (54:04):
Well, that's just the way it is. Yes, Well, I
think there's a couple of things going on. One is,
without getting too Connie the commentator on you, but if
you look at MMP environments around the world and the
European environments are similar to this electoral system that we've
had that has now matured. We are thirty years down
the road. We're in a post COVID world. You're going
to have brands of political parties that are trying to

(54:24):
activate certain small groups of constituents in order to get
that reflected into a government. You know, the Dutch who
I've looked at, they've gone back through an election after
you know, they've gone through another full government fell apart
four party coalition. But there are some coalitions throughout Europe
that are eleven parties and not one of them will
have more than seventeen or eighteen percent support. So that
is the reality of where MMP ultimately goes, and doesn't

(54:45):
matter whether it's a labor lead coalition or a national
lead coalition. You have to allow room for other parties.
In an MMP world, it's not first past the post.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
And do you think you're just a bit ahead of
your time potentially? What way do you mean? Well, well,
in the sense that we're at a stage now where
everyone expects you to be at thirty five, thirty six,
thirty seven percent, you're not. Everyone's made it a barbecue
and suddenly you suddenly you've got a problem an election.
Yet you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 19 (55:08):
It's just so well, it's just that we will make
the case an election, yet, as will the other five
parties in Parliament that you know you should party vote
for them because you should get them to the table
to be able to form a government with some other parties.
But you know we work an MMP. The New Zealand
public give us a result on election night and then
the largest someone has to going to make it work.
And that's what we did last time, and that's what

(55:29):
we'll have to do again next time.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
The Macron Starmer meeting over the weekend, does that lead anywhere?

Speaker 19 (55:33):
Well, actually, very useful meeting. Fifty one countries over a
quarter of the globe there represented. I actually spoke, they
asked me to talk there, and essentially we wanted to
reaffirm this thing called freedom of navigation. It's a key
part of international law because what you don't want happening
is other countries thinking they can toll or take control
of keep its waterways and for US as exporting nations,

(55:54):
that's not what we want to see.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
There's anything tangible coming out of it, or is it
like the last meeting where you're off to the uen
to have a vote that never happened because someone objects.

Speaker 13 (56:01):
Yah.

Speaker 19 (56:01):
So first of all, was just a reassurance that that's
what we want to see, no precedent setting freedom of navigation.
Second bit was in a post conflict peace time, you know,
is there a need for a multi national sort of
peacekeeping maritime support program. That's something that we're up for. Obviously,
we need to see it and.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Post conflict, even if Trump tells you stay away.

Speaker 19 (56:22):
Well, if there's a need for us to do something
as a multilateral community, then there may well be and
we don't but we want to see that pretty close.
You a lot about the lead, but we're not part
of it. I take it tangibly. Well, we're open to
considering it. Cabinet decision. What are we sending, Well, we've
done a lot. There's another things.

Speaker 15 (56:37):
We could do.

Speaker 19 (56:38):
You could you know, you get a pights that do surveillance,
for example, across their bit like we do against North
Korean sanctions on the nuclear program.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Are you going to be here next week?

Speaker 15 (56:48):
I'll definitely be here, So.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
You're prime mister Christopal Luxom twelve Away from It.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
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Speaker 2 (57:00):
He's likable, Mike, I don't know why people don't like him.
I mean, I've noticit I don't like him at all, Mike,
I'd have Chris at my barbecue. Intelligent guy, keeping his
nerve focused on the economy and what's good for New
Zealand in a challenging time. On top of that, he
keeps the coalition together and is praised by his ministers
for letting him get on with the job. It's not
an unfair point. Jeanne Tips Trainey wrote a very very
good piece you should read over the weekend if you

(57:21):
missed it. White's naive for Summer National to think getting
rid of Luxon will cheer us up. As people lose
their lives to war, fuel and feud, security are put
at risk, and New Zealand has faced yet another period
of high inflation, elevated interest rates and slow growth. It
is ludicrous to think Luxon is what is causing the
malays in New Zealand. It's good word ludicrous. Life for

(57:44):
your average kei we is unlikely to look different under
a new prime minister versus under Luxen. Come the November election,
a charismatic leader isn't a priority, and so say, well,
hopefully most of us ate away from it.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
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Speaker 2 (58:02):
It's the first time I think, and I'm racking my
memory where I've seen this sort of scuttle butt around
a leader with no obvious solution, you know, if you
go back far enough, sort of Winston. When Winston first
came onto the scene when he was a national he'd
start polling. All of a sudden, you know, people didn't
like Bolger anymore. And then Bolger Peter's turned up at
a five. Then he was a seven, then he was

(58:23):
an eight, then he was a nine. There was I mean,
bishops are two. There's just no one out there. Hipkins
is nineteen. What was it last? I can't even remember
the numbers. Who cares? Luckson's nineteen, Someone's sixteen. You know,
no one's popular. There's a problem. We think we've got
a problem, but not a single person has the answer.
I mean, I'm listening to old Heather on some promo

(58:44):
a moment ago. She thinks Mitchell's the answer. I love Mitchell,
no one loves Mitchell more than I do. But he's
not a prime minister's asshole. The guy is a likable guy.
You know, he puts on a raincoat, he'll run your emergency.
But he's not a prime minister or anywhere close to it.
And I say that with love, you know, just because
you're good at one. Erica Stanford another example, very very

(59:04):
good education minister. Let her be the education minister. Let
her shine, sam putting me downstairs on the music stations. Oh,
Mike ran a really good talk show. Let's let's get
them spinning a few platters on the classic.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
I don't think anybody's suggesting.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
That, but that's what I'm saying. It's just like, oh,
I got a problem, Let's let's think of some dumb,
random solution. I've never seen a problem like this, if
it even is a problem with no obvious solution there
is there are no numbers, there is no coup, there
is no spill, there is no contender, there's nothing, and

(59:39):
yet we're still going, oh, all right, right right, I'm
over it.

Speaker 13 (59:44):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
I'll tell you what was good at the weekend where
the supercars. Maybe it was rue Poona because of the circuit,
because it was all tight racing, but it was the
best motor racing meeting I've seen in many years. More
of the lads in the comment are buck shortly.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
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Speaker 23 (01:00:10):
Room is Wrong.

Speaker 24 (01:00:15):
And a super rugby thriller at Aiden Parks eighty seven
points on the Night.

Speaker 25 (01:00:23):
The Blues somehow cling off.

Speaker 17 (01:00:26):
I'm dagging.

Speaker 16 (01:00:27):
That's dagon the ride.

Speaker 26 (01:00:28):
That's the dride, that the drive that days they got it.

Speaker 12 (01:00:32):
That day they got it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
The day dies that daste they.

Speaker 13 (01:00:36):
Got it twenty seven eight.

Speaker 24 (01:00:38):
The Crusaders are gonna lose two in a row.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
The two are to Australia. Is not good for the Crusaders.

Speaker 27 (01:00:50):
The Garden City is fertile once for for Wellington. The
next stay alive for the time being, anyone.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
The final whistle goes and Central Coast defeat off the
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Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
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How good has the snooker been?

Speaker 26 (01:01:25):
What I did not know that was the lead today?
I was not made aware of that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
We got multiple table coverage. It's the nine o'cl.

Speaker 25 (01:01:38):
Is this the latest?

Speaker 13 (01:01:39):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
The world capitals and you call yourself a journalist. You're
a disgrace to the profession. Resign Now. It's the world,
It's it's the Crucible, it is the World Championship. Opening round,
which I'm watching it on Sky fifty seven and fifty nine.
My friend, how good?

Speaker 13 (01:01:59):
How good?

Speaker 24 (01:02:01):
I was about to say, isn't that a Christmas time
But that's the dart similar.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Yeah, no, it's not similar, and it's not Christmas time
for you, idiot. It is it is, this is this
is what's so good about. So the top eighteen automatically qualify.
The rest of the field have to go through a
qualifying tournament. So you play a lot of snooker to
get to the tournament itself. Opening round is best of
nineteen and then by the end of it, if you
make the final, you're paying best of thirty five. So
best of thirty five, best of thirty three, best of

(01:02:25):
twenty five, best of nineteen. So after two weeks you
played a shed load of snooker and if you win that,
you are the champion of champions. It's amazing.

Speaker 13 (01:02:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Clearly not selling any clearly not selling it to you.

Speaker 25 (01:02:39):
Now listen, excuse me, I didn't see your Jimmy Barnes
last night. Excuse the c Are you going?

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
What was it the hothouse Flowers you went to? Yes,
and so you beck, are you just like an old
classic hits kind of guy, you like, one of those
those those boomers who goes out, gets has a couple
and then gets a bit tank, tucks the shirt into
his pants and goes to a show.

Speaker 25 (01:02:59):
It was a good, good crowd.

Speaker 24 (01:03:00):
Few people come up to me and said, I hope
you'll be okay for hosking in the morning, and said,
of course I will be good stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:03:06):
Is he still good?

Speaker 26 (01:03:06):
Has he still got it set?

Speaker 24 (01:03:07):
He He doesn't look that great, but he can still
belt a tune out. He looks like he's on death's
door most of the time. But it was still a
It was still a pretty good gig.

Speaker 25 (01:03:20):
Not a not a massive fan with the bosses, but
the boss is a massive fan.

Speaker 13 (01:03:25):
She was.

Speaker 24 (01:03:25):
She's fromout howick Away where they came out of the
holding a cultures or cassette.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
So where was he performing? He must spark arena?

Speaker 25 (01:03:35):
No, no, it was no way.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
How many people were there for that?

Speaker 25 (01:03:39):
Oh it's been seven or eight thousand maybe more.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
That's that's not bad.

Speaker 25 (01:03:44):
It was. It was pretty good and got James Rain
coming up in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Jeez, you aren't the concert going? I don't know if
you do? You want me to have a word with
z M or the Hits or someone is he can
be like a concert reviewer or something like that.

Speaker 25 (01:03:57):
Well, you've been mentioning this morning.

Speaker 13 (01:03:59):
You're being pushed on too music radio.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Just trying to get around the luxe and thing with
all this nonsense of no contenders anyway, the most.

Speaker 24 (01:04:06):
Anyway, what a great sporting weekend that that, supercars and
christ You look, A couple of things they probably need
to fix for next year is the sun strike going
down the Strait. They probably need to start the races
a little bit earlier, don't they. And then the dust.
I think the dust was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
An issue really you see now, see that's interesting. You
should say, I reckon that enhanced it. What they actually
need to fix is the pet.

Speaker 24 (01:04:27):
How can it enhance it when you're going through a
cloud of dust and you can't see anything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Well, that's the point, because it can all end in carnage.
That's what's motorsports all about. You just don't know what's
going to happen. I mean the most famous shot of
the weekend was Kostecki through dust where he literally disappeared.

Speaker 25 (01:04:39):
He was well, he was lucky that they were all
lucky that there wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
That race yesterday it looked.

Speaker 25 (01:04:47):
It looked great too, because the crowd.

Speaker 24 (01:04:48):
I think the Australians were jealous because a lot of
the races I have and I was no one's there right,
No but the crowds and that, and in previous week
the crowd looked fantastic, packed on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
I think it was they honestly, and no one watches
more of this than I do, but they, the Australians
as and the commentators and the crew and stuff. They
raved about christ jute, you know, like an above and beyond.
In other words, it wasn't false. It wasn't like, hey,
we're you know. They were genuinely thrilled at what they saw.
So christ Church should be very proud of it. It
was a fantastic I think it might be the track

(01:05:20):
because every single race was so tight, so close, and
therefore you.

Speaker 24 (01:05:25):
Didn't compact and from pretty much every vantage point you
can see right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Did you see it, Jason, you're very quiet.

Speaker 25 (01:05:35):
Yes, I'm listening. I'm listening intently.

Speaker 26 (01:05:38):
I was down in christ Church actually over the weekend,
not for the supercars, but that city has got a
vibe about it now. Guys flying in with a. You know,
the plane was full of supercars fans. I think you
know twenty thousand Friday, twenty thousand, Saturday twenty thousand yesterday, completely.

Speaker 25 (01:05:54):
As I did.

Speaker 26 (01:05:55):
Yeah, I must. I was delighted for Matt Payne obviously,
but I was gathered for Ryan wood You know that
Jason Richards Memorial trophy is highly sought after by Kiwi drivers.
You know Van Gisbergen's one of a few times McLaughlin
he was It was seven laps from the finish, he
was leading, and then what has car just stopped with?
Just literally rolled to sterious, completely mysterious. Obviously Matt Payne

(01:06:19):
lost a wheel in the first race on Saturday, so
plenty happening. I think as I understand that the tracks
very flat. In terms of it, I think two paus
got more undulation. Yes, it goes up and out a
bit more so that probably probably speaks to more exciting racing.

Speaker 25 (01:06:35):
Look utter success.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
I can understand I could sympathize with Woody because last
time I was on Ruapoona, I was I was racing
an exit, I was racing an X What was the
bath called? Was it the X x L nine, the
X one nine do you remember the little fod bath,
the little two door. I was racing one of those
and it me too, came to a grinding hole just

(01:07:00):
to wtop. The light went flashing in the cabin and
that pullover, pull over, pull over, and that was the
end of my race.

Speaker 25 (01:07:06):
So when you were saying you were racing, you was
a a race. I was an ra were going? Were
you going fast?

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Very fast? I was going two hundred and thirty to
two hundred and forty five ks an Now I was flying.
I was absolutely coming home. I was in my mind
winning the Jason Richards Trophy. Do you want to hear
more about that story in a moment?

Speaker 13 (01:07:25):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Businesses, Jason couple of quick ones. If you wouldn't mind live?
Do you care if it disappears off the face of
the earth to Eden Park? What happens now all the
sport's gone?

Speaker 25 (01:07:53):
They live? No, I don't really care.

Speaker 26 (01:07:55):
I don't don't follow live at all. I know for
the golfers who are there, doyn't care because they've just
been the factors of this massive prize money that's completely unjustifiable.
But no, I don't care about live Eden Park as
I understand that this. I mean the international rugby and
cricket will still be played there as I understand it.
I think it's a good move to move away for
Auckland rugby and Auckland cricket, isn't it.

Speaker 22 (01:08:17):
I mean you can't.

Speaker 26 (01:08:18):
I mean Auckland Rugby don't want to be playing a
thousand people at Eton.

Speaker 25 (01:08:24):
Park, do they.

Speaker 24 (01:08:26):
I suppose super rugby there, Mike, you've still got all
black tests, You've still got a lot.

Speaker 25 (01:08:30):
Of other things, and looked like a pretty good show
on Friday night.

Speaker 24 (01:08:33):
That Highlander is game and I organized as are trying
hard to get the fans back. And I thought it
was probably the best round of Super rugby if we
can just move on to footy for a moment.

Speaker 25 (01:08:44):
I thought it was the best round of Super rugby
of the year. It's sort of come to life.

Speaker 18 (01:08:47):
The Chiefs Hurricanes game was it was the best game
of the season, really good football played and some of
the all black players that stood tall in that game,
which which you should be seeing by this time of
the season and which we saw on Saturday night, was good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
How good were the Warriors? Jason, Oh, I love that?

Speaker 26 (01:09:05):
Actually, yeah, I love the first sixty minutes and by
then the game was over. But the you know, in
the last twenty the old review that and say what
can we do better? Will be better? But I just
thought the pace with which they played in the first
twenty five thirty minutes. Aloiana can Perreira, I really like

(01:09:26):
him on the wing. I love Roger at center. He
hasn't got that top end speed.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
He seems to be coming back to my life. I
just love it.

Speaker 26 (01:09:34):
I love it, and I don't know, maybe it's because
he knows this is it for him. But you know,
they've got speedy wingers. Jackson Ford, by the way, what
a robot of a man. Is incredible what he does
and with players to still come back in. Don't know
what they're gonna do with Metcalf and Tanner. Boy's still
playing well, Harris ta Vita very good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Well, hide the phone you, Jason, let me bring you
in the sands. You Tanner Boyd can't kick. I mean,
when are we going to deal with that? Everyone goes, oh,
Tanner boys having a great game. He may well be,
but when it comes to kicking, he's he's sixty something percent.
That's not good enough.

Speaker 25 (01:10:06):
You mean you mean gold kick?

Speaker 24 (01:10:07):
Yeah, a lot of rug regul league kickers have got
better over the recent times, but you need.

Speaker 13 (01:10:14):
You do well. Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:10:15):
But the other thing, Mike is most a high percentage
of League tries are probably scored right in the corner,
exactly right. So that makes that makes it tricky.

Speaker 13 (01:10:23):
It's not easy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
But yeah, I'm sorry, Andrew. Isn't it that you get
still giving Bote and Barrett tips?

Speaker 13 (01:10:28):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
I mean, that's.

Speaker 24 (01:10:30):
Not I'm just saying compared to Union, where there's more
tries scored, I think closer to the sticks, and League
most of them will a high percentage of them are
scored out wide.

Speaker 25 (01:10:39):
So the pen doesn't it increase? It?

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Doesn't it behoove you to have a kicker who, when
you do stand on the sideline goes yep, no better
than average chance of getting this one.

Speaker 13 (01:10:50):
Looks like.

Speaker 24 (01:10:52):
If they haven't already, you'd be getting onto the blow
and someone to someone like Dan Carter right getting him
down to the training I.

Speaker 26 (01:10:58):
Remember having Yeah, sorry, Michael is Luke, Metcalf a demonstrably
better goal.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
No, see, I ran into trouble. Seawn Johnson on this, Sean,
I said, metcalf can't kick, and he looked at me
like he wanted to smack me in the head, and
he goes, yes, he can, He's fine. But I just
go on stats. I know that Tanner Boyd's sixty percent
metcalf was a problem as well. The only reason Tanner
Boy's kicking is because Mitcalfs has been around. But you
go back to the Matthew Ridge days, for God's sake,
and you're talking thirty forty fifty sixty years ago when

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league didn't have kickers, and Ridge comes along and all
of a sudden they go, oh my word, he's quite good,
isn't he. And if you know that three or four times,
that's eight points a game.

Speaker 13 (01:11:36):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 25 (01:11:37):
Don't know whether it's going to come from as much.
I mean, you don't.

Speaker 26 (01:11:41):
This is probably a generalization, but you don't get those
those type games, do you, that are decided by by goalkicking?
Maybe you do.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
I'm sorry, Well, wait, to wait till the playoffs and
we lose by two, come back on the program and
explain it to me.

Speaker 24 (01:11:52):
Then the way they played the last couple of weeks,
Mate reminded me of the way they played at the
opening in the opening games. And if they can bottle that,
and yeah they buttoned off a bit at the end
of the game, but up like plenty, they can bottle that, then.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
We're off to the races. I think they can bottle that.
Andrew that that might make it our year, wouldn't it.

Speaker 24 (01:12:11):
Anyway, back to the fe at Arbat and do you
know what happened to it?

Speaker 25 (01:12:16):
Did you sell it? Did you get rid of now?

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
No? No, it was some friends Dennis and Debbie Chapman
own that they were tech people who sold the company,
made a lot of money, and they said, you want
to race our They had two of them, and I said, sure,
no worries, and so I didn't. I blew it up.
That was the last I heard from them.

Speaker 25 (01:12:34):
I think the big backers of Liam Lawson aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
They probably will be there. They're their motivation and hell
of a nice people, good christ Juch people, Andrew.

Speaker 26 (01:12:42):
Guys, they are Michael, you've both got a real affinity
with that city. Can I just say, like I said,
I was there over the weekend and back there this
weekend for super Round. The new indoor Sports Center is open.
There's a vibe around ruins who of course, it just
I don't know. It feels like Christ you just finally back.

Speaker 25 (01:13:00):
So it's it's at least again.

Speaker 24 (01:13:02):
Did you go to Christ chitch and hang out at
the indoor Sports Center?

Speaker 25 (01:13:06):
No, no, Jason, you need Mike and I to come.

Speaker 13 (01:13:09):
Down with you, show you a good time.

Speaker 25 (01:13:12):
Where will I be hanging out? Where will I be hanging.

Speaker 13 (01:13:14):
Out with you too?

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
It well, we can't say anything publicly at this stage, Jason,
But Sav's no sav knows all the good spots.

Speaker 25 (01:13:21):
Get you, the v VIP areas that no one even
knows about. Christ, James Rayn.

Speaker 26 (01:13:27):
We'd see James rain from up close.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Gotta go, Andrew Savil. Jason By in eight twenty three.

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Speaker 13 (01:15:55):
You should have bluff, but I went to bluff.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Yes indeed, and that's the place to go for the oysters.
Of course. Poll this morning and the two points. Is
there anything in this? So one nation twenty two, Coalation
twenty three, Labor thirty two? Is there anything material in this?
Is the have we seen peak? One nation?

Speaker 13 (01:16:12):
Maybe?

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
But there's a long time to the next federal election
and they're still in front of the coalition so that's
a pretty healthy result for them still. And the government itself,
well they're flat, they're not going up, not going down,
and the coalition is staying about the same. So it
tells me that people are still not feeling engaged by
the major parties, either Labor or the Coalition. Coincidentally, on Saturday,

(01:16:37):
I spent the day with Pauline Senator Pauline Hanson. She
visited my local area because we have a by election
here coming up state by election on the second of May.
So she was down here with the local candidate and
I can tell you she got a rock star welcome.
I mean, I've never seen anything like it. So I
was at the local football club luncheon which they have

(01:16:59):
when they have a home game. And she walked in
and got a standing ovation from people and then a
Q form to her right of mainly young people, I
would say, and they all wanted to selfie. They all
wanted to have a picture taken with Pauline Hanson, and
they waited, you know, waited for half an hour or
more just to get a picture with us.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
So what club are we talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
The Sorrento Sharks AFL.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Team, right, So you are down on that you live
out of town to explain to people, so you you've
got to So this is I don't know what, what
do you call it? Provincial victoria, rural victoria, rich person's Victoria.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
The latter, yes, definitely, although Portsy's a bit more wealthy
than Sorrento. But nevertheless, I'm an hour and a half
out of town, right. The local hospital needs to be rebuilt,
She's promised he's going to get that done. So look,
I mean, you and I have seen politicians come and go.
And I've known Pauline for a hell of a long time,

(01:17:58):
had some really very tough arguments with her when I
was on radio. But what I witnessed on Saturday was
quite remarkable.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
She has she got a magnetism about her in person.

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
I wouldn't say that, no, but it's the iPhone generation.
They all want to have their picture taken with people
who are well known, and so that's what that's what
it's about.

Speaker 13 (01:18:25):
Will that transfer into vote, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
We'll wait and see. May two will be a big test.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Interesting Ben Robert Smith. But I watched as I don't
know what do you call it wasn't a press conference.
He didn't take any questions, But I mean, where does
that stand and how long is that going to take
to unfold?

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
Well, reports This Morning's Lawyers. This has Ben Robert Smith,
of course, VC served in I think three tours of
Afghanistans facing serious charges of war crimes murder. This story
has really generated a lot of emotion right across Australia.
You're either in the bed Robert Smith camp or you're not.

(01:19:02):
And he's gone back to the Gold Coast. He was
in a jail cell in Sydney for seven or eight days,
released on Friday, Lake Friday and drove back to the
Gold Coast, as you said, made a media appearance yesterday.
Australian disbab reporting today that his lawyers are considering an
application to permanently halt the proceedings because they argue there's

(01:19:24):
no way Ben Robert Smith can get a fair trial.

Speaker 13 (01:19:26):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
It's Commonwealth charges that have been laid against him. That
means it has to be heard before a jury and
a judge. And I guess the lawyers are going to say, well,
how can he possibly anywhere in Australia? Can you put
a jury together that doesn't know any of the details
of what Ben Robert Smith is up against. I thought
it was interesting he didn't take questions. Probably not surprising.

(01:19:50):
He said, I understand this is an unprecedented case, public
interests huge, media's got a job to do, but can
you please leave my family alone. The one quote from
him that I found quite remarkable or quite interesting was
I never ever turn away from a fight. I never
run away from a fight. If you go and read
his VC Award nomination, as you can tell exactly why

(01:20:15):
he has that pinned on his chest.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
Interesting, So free you're on the train this morning or
the bus from Sorrento because it's free. Doesn't it go
all the way to Sorrento? Is it just downtown Melbourne?

Speaker 4 (01:20:25):
It's a combination of buff and train if you wanted
to do that trip. It's not something I've ever enjoyed myself,
I must say, But yes, all public transport is going
to be free until the end of May. Now I
get very annoyed when I use the word free, because
it's not free. The taxplayers are paying for it now.
As I said, we've got a by election I may too,

(01:20:47):
then a state election in November. And guess what the
premierse decided she's going to make public transport half price
after the end of May, when it stops being completely free,
half price until the end.

Speaker 13 (01:20:59):
Of Wonder why that would be exact?

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
I mean she does know what's going to happen in
the straits of all mules in October, I presume, because
otherwise why would you be doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
You call it now that that Pharaoh thing, the by
election in Pharaoh, which is out of your state obviously,
But is that like, is that building ahead of excitement
at all?

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
Not really one hundred percent, because it's tests to one
nation and the Labor Party are not standing a candidate.
There is a so called independenteeal that is being funded
by a climate two hundred. There's a national candidate, there's
a Liberal candidate. So yes, whatever happens here in the
by election and then in Pharaoh will tell you whether

(01:21:37):
one nation's numbers are real or fake?

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
Okay? And would you call the election in Victoria for
Labor at this point? I mean they should. They should
have been threshed years ago, and I just don't understand
why or.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
Not my call on that, and it will change between
now November obviously would be that the Premier herself loses
her seat in Bendigo and Labor gets back with a
majority of not sixteen as it currently is, but about three.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
And who will the leader.

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
Be, probably called Ben Carroll as a deputy premier. But
I mean, you're right, they should have been thrown out.
The state's busted, broke and not a particularly nice place
to live at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
No ill speaking, which Geelong did they I take it?
They put it all out how badly damaged. Is that
in terms of supplying fuel and gas and petrol and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:22:26):
Well, Viva the boss tries to downplay it every time
he's on with the with the Prime Minister. I think
that's because he hopes that the government's going to help
repair it. But it's ten percent of Victoria's petrol which
is now out, and so the prices while they dropped
across the weekend, and I think diesels even now under
two dollars. A leader that is going to put a

(01:22:47):
big dent in supply for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
I see you Wednesday, appreciate it. Interesting analysis. I don't
know if any of this is relevant anymore in Australia
or anywhere around the world. What happens if the war continues.
I'll give you the numbers as exercise, but given the
war isn't going to continue, maybe it's pointless. Eight forty
five The.

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Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
At b Mike had just drove through Timaru Diesel down
to three sixteen. That's the cheapest have seen it for
a while. The numbers in Australia are interesting. Another five
interest rate hikes. This is from the Oxford Economics Australia
people end of the war by May, which I mean
it's already done that they will not go back to fighting.
There'll be a bit of bargie bargie, there'll be a

(01:23:32):
bit of back and forth. Everyone will claim victory, but
it'll be it'll be wrapped in the next week or so.
Underlying inflation to three point seven percent and remained elevated
into next year. That alone, they say, would force the
RBA to take official cash rates to four point three five.
But if the war continues till September. You see what
I mean. This is sort of academic, it doesn't really
matter anymore. That would push oil beyond one fifty a barrel.

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Most of its key trading partners would end up in recession. Hardest.
Its parts of Australia would be done wa They would
contract two point six percent, the Northern Territory, two and
a half South Australia, two point four Queens and two
point three underlying in plation would reach six and the
Reserve Bank would have to take the cash rate to
five point five from the Commonwealth bag spending, they claim

(01:24:16):
is lifted by two point nine percent in March expenditure
on transporter surged by twenty three percent and spending is
likely to fall through April. So that's the latest forecast.
But speaking of money, probably the best thing I read
over the weekend. If you want to look it up,
guy called Shane Wright wrote it. It's lengthy, but the
headline is Australia's debt hits one trillion this year, one
trillion this year? What did we spend it on? And

(01:24:41):
to read it in its detail is to hang your
head in shame and weep. And we are nowhere near
as bad as they are. But all countries who don't
run surpluses are destined to run debt, and countries that
run debt pay for that.

Speaker 11 (01:24:57):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Our bill currently on interest alone is ten billion dollar
a year and climbing, and Australia's even worse. But if
you can be bothered, read that and that's just it's
just promises made on money they never had, and the
next thing you know, you're in the whole to the
tune of a trillion dollars. It's a good read.

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Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
The different polls coming out, which are the ones that
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sort of the question of the age, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (01:26:37):
Really?

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
You got to make up your own mind. I'm looking
forward to talking to Rod tomorrow because what I didn't
mention earlier on if you haven't followed the Starmer story,
is it?

Speaker 25 (01:26:45):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Starmer nominates as mate Mandelssohn to be the ambassador in Washington,
the biggest diplomatic post any country can put forward. The
person in Washington's the number one guy or woman, So
they test them out security wise. Obviously Starmer those guys
as loose as makes a lot of stuff up. He's
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(01:27:08):
and he honestly is expecting us to believe that no
one told him. I mean, can you for In meantime,
Sir Ollie Robbins has been sacked. So he's the guy
at the office who allegedly didn't tell anybody and he's
just gone and lost his job.

Speaker 11 (01:27:25):
So is he.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
Been sacked for the right reasons because he's really that
thick and he didn't tell anybody, or has he just
been sacked? So anyway, we're on that tomorrow. It's going
to be a week. It may well be a week
in which Starma goes five minutes away from nine trending.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Now, will Kim as well book in your flu vaccination today?

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Yeah, she got me again. I was in a different
room this weekend, not the normal room where I with
a springer. So I was in a different room this weekend.
But I still watch the worries.

Speaker 23 (01:27:53):
Oh oh my words, Come on.

Speaker 13 (01:28:00):
Look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
He's there's no one there, mate, I don't do that.

Speaker 11 (01:28:08):
There's no one there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Oh go go go go go go go run good
run right right rog No, no, no, no, come on mate,
look at it. It's that was town of boyd kicking.
I thought he's gonna be a town of boy kicking.

(01:28:30):
I'm looking at I can still remember me staying I'm
standing in the middle of a lounge and I'm looking
at him once it.

Speaker 21 (01:28:35):
Was like you were trying to have some kind of
metaphysical control over him by by mimicking his actions or
get him to mimic your action.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
I was standing behind him. I was standing by reality steal,
trying to steal the kick.

Speaker 15 (01:28:49):
I mean, I know it's a big TV.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
No, it was a big TV, isn't it does that? Anyway?
Guess who likes this?

Speaker 28 (01:28:55):
I just got to say, mate, yeah, I love watching
watching video of you much Kate makes them or not,
but of you with the wine yelling at the TV
over the rugby.

Speaker 11 (01:29:05):
Like it cracks me up every time.

Speaker 13 (01:29:07):
So thank you for that.

Speaker 15 (01:29:09):
I'm very content.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
I'm full of passion. Do you know who that is?
It's Carl Urban. So anyway, we're talking to Carl Urban
the other day and he starts talking about that. I said, Carl,
we're not going to conduct a whole interview about me
watching the Warriors, and he goes, nah, let me please. Anyway,
he's back with a couple of programs, the Boys being
the main one, and Carl Uban's going to be on
the program tomorrow after eight o'clock. So we'll look forward

(01:29:32):
to his Company and yours tomorrow from six as always
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