Full Show Podcast: 20 July 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
No fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The Mic Hosking
Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way News,
togs Head Beats Well.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
You're welcome Today. We're looking to get Ryan Fox on
the program. Obviously, the World Cup Final kicks off later
this morning. Winston's got a billion dollars to map some
off shure bits that may or may not have oil
or gas. The PM's back from holiday, Richard Arnold, Steve Price.
They're in the mix as well. Pasking Well, I'll give
it to the week seven past six. So here's the
next story in our most excellent Warriors Adventure of twenty
twenty six. Now you may have noticed the Panthers, previously

(00:31):
the unbeatable team, have been falling apart. The side that
no one could best is being beaten. I don't know why,
it doesn't really matter. What matters is the gap between
them and us is back down to two points. We
of course, got our two points Saturday night against a
Dragon side that was either better than many thought, or
a reminder that the NRL is so tight even the
ordinary playing the extra ordinary can make a bit of
a game of it all. Anyway, back to the Panthers.

(00:53):
Have a look at the clearies. Couple of weeks back,
postgame presser talk about surly and depressed and things haven't
got any better late. Broncos tipped them up last week
and the misery rolls on, which means, now here's the thing,
which means, think about this. We can be minor premiers,
we can win the competition and the whole thing. Seven
games to go. One of them is the mentally fragile Panthers.
But apart from that, given we're a good second on

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the ladder, every other team is below us. There is
a points differential issue with the Panthers if we end
up tied. But is it not entirely possible that we
can finish the year as we have traveled the year
with a good collection of victories, possibly one loss along
the way, but with the minor premiership at the end
of it. Now, two thousand and two we did that, remember,
but that was the Bulldog's year. So if we do
it in twenty twenty six, it would be one for

(01:37):
the record books. We haven't because we don't need to
talk about making the eight. We haven't because we don't
need to talk about making the four. This is how
good this year is and we should never forget that
part of it. And now surely the Premiership is not
beyond us, and along with it the benefits of the
time off in the home playoff games. Every other year

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for three decades, whenever we're playoff bound, we're hoping and
praying and fingers crossed and wins and losses and mathematical
calculations for other sides. This year we are the dominant side.
We are as good as it gets, and we just
keep winning. Imagine if we won it all, we won everything, now,
that would be our year.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
News of the World in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Two Wars, Front and Seat of this Monday morning. Republicans
reacting to the loss of troops and ongoing attacks on
the Iranian military.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Every president has faced challenges from Iran. President Trump's the
first president in recent memory that's taken them out, and
we have to respond when we have a peace agreement,
did they break?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Meanwhile, Moscow has gone after Key by the night and
the biggest ballistic attack yet.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
The Ukrainians are trying to hit supply lines in Russia
to cause chaos, but these attacks here in Que are
forty ballistic missiles into civilian areas. It's basically to terrorize people.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Boris Johnson popped up to give some putin inside Poutine.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Doesn't really know from the West what we want, and
we won't declare that we really really want Ukraine as
part of the Western Committee of Nations.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
And Trump popped up to give some Burnham advice on
the North Sea oil.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
Andy Burnham has stated he will be opening up all
the way the invaluable North Sea oil and we'll make
the United Kingdom from a poverty stricken disaster to one
of the richest countries anywhere in the world.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
On the subject of stuff the new British Prime Minister
might be up to, there's the ongoing issue that is
the myth that is team's water.

Speaker 7 (03:45):
Let's be honest.

Speaker 6 (03:46):
I think this is something that we can all see,
the privatization of water.

Speaker 8 (03:51):
It hasn't worked.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
No, and we have the football and what might be
a smoky old New Jersey fan loyalties will be tasted.

Speaker 9 (03:57):
I'm a Spanish, My Argentinian friends are cousins.

Speaker 10 (04:01):
We have got a long history of players come in
to Spain like the Estefano Maradona are messy of course.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well sorry, that is news of the world in ninety
as officially the leader of the Labor Party. He will
later on tonight become the Prime Minister of Great Britain.
Not to underestimate the significance of that particular movies finalizing
a cabinet reshuffle which most people seem to think will involving,
will involve the removal of Rachel Rees as Chancellor and

(04:29):
either Ed or Sabana as in Milliband or my mood
will end up with that particular job. And just while
we're in that part of the world, clacton the by election,
the one they were making jokes about last week Faraj
and mister binface. Turns out they have more candidates in
that by election than in any other by election in
the history of by elections in Britain. There are now
thirty four declared candidates. Eleven past six.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on Iheartradiowes Talks.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Evy got some World Cup stats for you later on.
But Kelsey, who are the prediction market of course, they
have added three million new users just because of the
people World Cup in the last couple of weeks fourteen
Perst six Insurance Partners. This Monday morning, Andrew Keller her
very good morning to you. Yeah, morning, Mike, talk to

(05:20):
me about the price indexes. What have we got? Is
it tomorrow we get the inflation, don't.

Speaker 7 (05:24):
We Yeah, you get the inflation tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (05:26):
So inflation the focus locally this week for us here
in New Zealand. So yeah, Q two or the second
quarter CPI, due for release tomorrow on Friday sets New
Zealand release the dune update of these selected price indexes. Now,
these indexes represent just under fifty of the inputs to

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the quarterly CPI, and the main implication of the takeaway
from Friday is that those indexes sort now complete the
inputs that people have into their forecasts for that second
quarter CPR where that will fall.

Speaker 7 (05:59):
Now, I'll run through those forecasts tomorrow morning.

Speaker 8 (06:02):
Might say're nice and fresh in people's minds prior to
the release, but most forecasters sort of have nudged up
their Q two peck just a tiny little bit as
results of Friday, which are Friday's numbers which were a
little bit stronger than expected.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
At what were they? Well, food prices.

Speaker 8 (06:18):
As ever, get the most attention, because last I looked,
food prices do affect everyone. Annual price growth for the
food category running at two and a.

Speaker 7 (06:25):
Half percent, which is quite a big fall.

Speaker 8 (06:28):
From annual food price inflation to May which was three
point two percent.

Speaker 7 (06:32):
So some good news there, But you.

Speaker 8 (06:34):
Sort of look at your staples, meat, pulture and fish,
you know, all the proteins.

Speaker 7 (06:38):
They're up six point two percent year and year.

Speaker 8 (06:40):
Milk prices also might have just been marching relentlessly higher,
increasing every month for the last two years, up zero
point six percent for the month of June, fruit and
vegies up two point three percent.

Speaker 7 (06:53):
Housing rental growth that's part of the select price.

Speaker 8 (06:55):
Indexes rose zero point one percent, still reflecting that there
is no real pressure on rents at the moment. And
obviously the main one that we're interested. Fuel prices they
rose in the quarter, obviously because you've got the sort
of Middle East conflict in there, but they did fall
in June. Petrol price is down four point two percent,
diesel down twelve point one.

Speaker 7 (07:16):
But you want the real picture, then you've got.

Speaker 8 (07:17):
To sort of sort of zoom out a little bit
and look at the year on year numbers twenty three
point six and fifty seven point one percent, respectively, And
this is obviously the point of most uncertainty now might
give them the escalation of the Middle East conflict. But more basics,
electricity and gas annually up ten point eight eleven point four,
And I think if you can sort of sit back

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and reflect on these numbers, you can see that from
the point of view of cost of living, because everyone
talks about this cost of living Priss. The essentials things
like energy and protein, they are rising far higher than
headline inflation. So people are feeling it on those basics.
But we get we'll talk about the big number tomorrow
morning exactly.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Now, tell us who skc are in why these matters?

Speaker 8 (08:02):
Sky City Entertainment Group, Mike, this is the ins Andet's
announcement that came out on Friday, So Sky City Entertainment Group,
and I think this is quite an interesting announcement. They
confirm the sale or that the sale they expected. Sale
ninety nine Albert Street and a bunch of investment properts
in Victoria Street have gone unconditional.

Speaker 7 (08:20):
So Sky City has been trying to sell assets.

Speaker 8 (08:23):
It needs to raise cash and reduce debts. So this
is a good step in the right direction. Now, the
consideration seventy four and a half million dollars. But the
couple of really interesting points here. Firstly, Mike, the purchases
is a local so it's a JV between Mainland Capital.
It's a christ Which based commercial property fund manager and
Russell Property Group, so they are locals buying this. And secondly,

(08:44):
in our apologies to those that are outside of Auton
because this is going to be a little bit Auckland centric,
this is an area of the Aukan CBD that's been
hit really hard by a couple of things. You know,
there's been a shift in the center of town down
to the waterfront, but also the development of the City
Rail Link and as you will be aware of, it's
absolutely it's made a mess of that part of town

(09:05):
for gosh, what is it now? For years, yes, but
they've now got the real possibility that this area could
be revitalized when the CRL actually opens, because you've got
a vote of confidence here by locals in this area.
I mean, Mike, I started working this area, believe it
or not, thirty nine years ago on the corner of Wellesley,
Steph and Queens Street and it was this oath.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
For a long time, isn't it. So Back in the
last century.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
You keep telling me you're only forty two.

Speaker 8 (09:33):
Child prodigy, But look at it was the center of town,
like it was the center of town, and then everything
shifted towards the waterfront.

Speaker 7 (09:40):
But the pendulum could be swinging back.

Speaker 8 (09:42):
And we also saw a little pop in the share
price for sky City, So I actually think that's quite
a little good news story just lurking.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
In the background exactly for what it's worth, humbury, bullish
and and I think you've turned the corner right.

Speaker 8 (09:54):
What are the numbers, Well, it's not great because we
know we've got we've got problems in the Middle East,
and I think that's going to a story for this week.
But the dal Jones on Friday fell four hundred and
six points, about three quarters percent, fifty two thousand, one
hundred and forty six.

Speaker 7 (10:08):
The S and P five hundred was down one percent
seven four five.

Speaker 8 (10:12):
Seven were closed there, and the Nasdak twenty five thousand,
five hundred and twenty it was down one point four percent,
three hundred and sixty one points, so people getting a little
bit concerned. The Footsy one hundred gained a quarter percent
ten thousand, six hundred. The Nicka, Yeah, Asia got really
hit hard. The nick got hit four percent on Friday,
two thousand, six hundred and ninety four points sixty four thousand,

(10:34):
one hundred and forty one the close there. The Shanghai
composite down three percent, down one hundred and eighteen points
three seven sixty four. The OSSI has lost half a
percent forty four points eight seven nine four. But sky
City actually helped our index on Friday, and we gained
eighty points point five to nine percent thirteen thousand, six
hundred and ninety four key we dollar point five eight
three six against the US point eight three six o

(10:56):
Ossie point five one oh six Euro point four to
three four oh against the pound ninety four point seven
zero Japanese. Yet gold is trading just over four thousand,
foury seventeen and Brent crude pushed up to eighty eight
dollars and ten cents. And you know, there's still the
possibility that I don't think is going to come down
a lot this week while there's a lot of missiles

(11:16):
being logged.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
We will catch up tomorrow. Andrew Kella has shot and
partners past interesting auction Huang's leather jacket Jensen he's been
wearing a leather jacket for twenty years. But he put
his leather jacket up for auction over the weekend for charity.
Sixty five bids. It was pre worn. It was at Southby's.
They said somewhere between forty and sixty thousand dollars went

(11:37):
for a million. And that's how things roll these days.
Six twenty one News toorks.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
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Speaker 2 (11:53):
Speaking of nvideo for what is Worth Apple over took
in video again over the weekend. Tribe shares were up
again and four point nine trillion versus four point eight trillion, Mike,
if the Wars win it all and they can, where
does the hellberg go them? Or Fox? The answers good questions,
good fun sporting question. The answers Fox because you cannot
overstate what's happened this morning in the sporting context. So

(12:16):
Fox would win that in the Wars would win the
I'm assuming the team of the year. We'll speaking of
WHCH six twenty five.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
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Speaker 2 (12:28):
So it's history and to win the Open I suppose,
I mean, if we get them on later on this morning.
You'll ask, but I guess you would pick the Masters.
If you had to win one major, you'd picked the Masters.
I guess I may be wrong, but he's won the Open.
He started the par four eighteenth, so needed a birdie
to win outright or a part to go into a playoff.
The eighteenth as given up four birdies all day, twenty

(12:51):
seven birdies all tournament. Is that a lot, no fewest
of any hole on the course shot?

Speaker 11 (13:00):
I mean that was a Mike Tyson out of cup.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Please, unbelievable, outstanding drive from Ryan Fox. And he looked
confident the whole time too. He likes to play fast
because he had to wait for the party up, he
had to finish. Because he likes to play fast. He
comes as approach, be right baby, Oh yes, sir ee.

(13:29):
Fantastic shot.

Speaker 12 (13:31):
You won't seen many better in.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
That straight into the green below the pin, eleven foot
for everything, taking.

Speaker 12 (13:39):
No time at all.

Speaker 7 (13:40):
That's what you dream off.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
A part to win the Open?

Speaker 12 (13:44):
He has it, Ryan Fox, Champion dollper of the year.
He celebrates and following your zealand celebrates.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
What indeed we do. Dead was on the phone, I
quite shot that last part three honest, but.

Speaker 13 (14:02):
My dad, yeah I had I'll find rooted a shot
coming straight.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
You seem very calm throughout the whole thing as well
worth watching if you went up early. Most of us weren't,
of course, but if you didn't see it, it's well
worth watching. Very calm through the whole thing. And then
of course the speech.

Speaker 10 (14:17):
Oh wow.

Speaker 13 (14:19):
I don't really know what to think at the moment.
I spoke to my kids last night and they said,
bring back a trophy. I think that's a pretty cool
one to bring back for them.

Speaker 10 (14:31):
Just an unbelievable week.

Speaker 13 (14:33):
The golf course was fantastic, the English weather was fantastic.
You guys out there were fantastic, the support was amazing,
and yeah, this is pretty cool, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
There you go, and cart underestimated. You missed it all
over the weekend, the sixty two, which was for a
while the story, but then sort of everyone was getting
sixty two and breaking records left right in center. And
you never see a course like that in those sort
of benign conditions force all four days, but that's the
way it played out. So history being made this morning.

(15:06):
Ryan Fox, another New Zealand champion, speaking of sport. World
Cup kicks off at seven o'clock to the final this morning.
We'll go and have a look at prospects in just.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
A moment, asking the questions others won't the mic, asking
breakfast with defender, trophy, empic adventure, greater Purpose, youth talks,
dead be.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
The war obviously and where this goes this week in
the prize of boils. So we'll get to Richard Arnold Stateside,
shortly twenty three minutes away from seven World Cup final,
forty eight teens, three countries, and it's down to Spain
by Argentina, not without controversy, of course, on deconspiracy. If
we watch MESSI win it all today, if you know
what I mean. Jonathan tanner Wald is the chief soccer
correspondent at the Philadelphia Inquirer and is in New Jersey today. Jonathan,

(15:46):
morning to you.

Speaker 14 (15:48):
It's great to be with you.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Thanks for having me, not at all as an event.
What are your observations.

Speaker 14 (15:54):
It's a little crazy over here, you know, it certainly
feels like a World Cup final. The crowd, you know,
the scale of the spectacle, certainly, all the security and
everything else. You know, not every day of this world Cup.
For me, as an American, being at a World Cup
in my country has felt the part. But this certainly does.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
What about today with the wise, the smoke and all
the concerns out of Canada or is it clear and
ready to go?

Speaker 14 (16:18):
It's clear and ready to go here.

Speaker 7 (16:19):
It's beautiful here.

Speaker 14 (16:21):
I don't speak Celsius, so you're going to have to
accept my apology on that. It's in the high seventies,
low eighties fahrenheit, there's a breeze, there's barely any smoke,
if any at all. It's as good as they could
ask for, even in a regular summer here.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Okay, that's about twenty four and our language. The controversy
throughout the tunement asmarers you concerned Jonathan, from Iran to
Trump to in Infantina, the cads, the appeals, all that
sort of stuff. Is that just footballer walk?

Speaker 14 (16:48):
I think it's a lot more than football. When you know,
when a FIFA referee is not allowed in the country
by the host government, that's a lot more than football.
And you know that's a guy who is wearing a
FIFA badge on his shirt at all times, and they
were not willing to really go to the mat with
the Trump administration to get him in. I thought that

(17:10):
was pretty disgraceful by FIFA, on top of the disgrace
of how my government has handed a lot of things
with this. Yeah, you know we say, we say, oh
when the games start, uh, you know, it all goes away.
It hasn't gone away this time, but it shouldn't go
away this time.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
What about the goals? There appeared a lot of goals
as far as a you know, display of football. Seemed
like a good tournament in that sense.

Speaker 7 (17:33):
Oh, it's been very entertaining.

Speaker 14 (17:34):
I mean, and the stars of the stars have shown,
you know in Boppe, Bellingham, McCain, obviously Messi. You can
keep going down the list the stars have shown in
this tournament. And you know, even even New Zealand will
we'll have left with some some real memories of some
fine moments.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah. What about tourist and ticket prices? Did we get
through that in the end? I mean, Infantino over the
week and gave the numbers. I mean they made money
like there was no tomorrow.

Speaker 14 (18:01):
Right Well, and that's the thing. Once they were doing that,
they didn't care about the rest. But there were empty
seats at quarterfinals. I saw empty seats at the semi
final in Dallas, not many, but enough that were visible.
If there were empty seats in a patch in you know,
in Atlanta at the other semi final. What are we
doing here? Did it have to be fifteen billion dollars?
It could have been fourteen billion dollars and bring down

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the ticket prices some so the more people could afford
to go.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
What about the three countries? Is that a model that works?
Do you think?

Speaker 14 (18:30):
I think it's going to have to work going forward.
If it's going to be forty eight teams in the
World Cup, especially if it's going to be sixty four,
there's only so many countries in the world that can
handle it flat out at this point because of the
infrastructure and all that that's required. So I think this
is going to be the way of the world going forward.
And the question now is whether those three countries in
the future will be in in North America or Europe,

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or you know, maybe Australia and New Zealand some time
as they did on the women's side.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
We'll see. At the start of this tournament, Jonathan, who'd
you have?

Speaker 14 (19:00):
I had France a little bit with my heart, and
you know, Spain was in among them two and Portugal,
and Spain beat Portugal and so much for that. I
thought England was in the running, and they were in
the running until late on. And Spain Argentina. Look, I
think is a worthy final. It's the champions of Europe
and the champions of South America. It's Messi and Jamal,

(19:22):
which is star power for the US audience that loves
its stars, and I have to say, I think the
rest of the world probably does too.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, and Missy wins it, and the whole conspiracy theory
comes true because it was a jacket rut from the start.
How we play that.

Speaker 10 (19:36):
Well?

Speaker 14 (19:36):
Look, no, I give Argentina more credit than that. I
understand where people are coming from with that stuff, and
I understand why. But I give Argentina more credit if
they beat this Spain team. I was at Spain France
and I saw Spain absolutely smother that French attack. And
if Argentina beats that Spain team today, I mean, who knows.

(19:58):
You know, I don't like to make guarantees, but I'd
like to think the vill have earned it.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
I've enjoyed your company, enjoy the game, mate, appreciate it
very much. Jonathan Tannerwald, who's the Cheap Soccer correspondent at
the Philadelphia Inquirer. The winner, by the way, earns fifty
one million dollars and if you come second, you get
thirty four million dollars. And that is how soccer rolls
eighteen to.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
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But responsibly, Pasky, you seem to think the Open's the one, Mike.
The Opener is the overarching best major to win longevity
and depth of field, Mike, the wonder winners the Open history,
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bunker history fair enough?

Speaker 15 (21:29):
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Speaker 2 (21:36):
You Hey, Michael, So it seems all back on, didn't it?

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (21:40):
The war has taken a tough turn, hasn't it worth?
The first US combat desk in four months since the
start of this thing, as the faint seems to be
escalating day by day. Two American troops killed by an
Iranian strike and Jordan another person still missing. So is
this edging towards a wider war? Yet again? The White
House sent out Chris Wright, the Energy Secretary, to respond
on to the latest challenges. He says of what some

(22:02):
now I calling Trump's forever war.

Speaker 17 (22:04):
Yes, this mission will go on until the mission is done.

Speaker 16 (22:08):
It is a growing challenge. Back in March, it was
that same Energy secretary who said the war would be
over with quickly.

Speaker 17 (22:15):
I think that this conflict will certainly come to the
end in the next few weeks.

Speaker 16 (22:18):
Well it's now almost five months with little sign of
any real diplomacy. Secretary right now saying we've pivoted to
what the US is responding to, Oram's missiles and drones
with anti missiles that costs around two and a half
million bucks apiece for drones that were bought for maybe
fifty thousand dollars each. Democratic Senator Mark Wardham, who is

(22:39):
on the Intelligence Committee, says Trump also turned his back
on an eight offer from Ukraine.

Speaker 17 (22:45):
President Zelensky the only country that has devised the technique
of counter Iranian drones at five thousand dollars.

Speaker 7 (22:52):
They've done it so effectively.

Speaker 17 (22:54):
They offered us all of that technology for free, and
the Trump White House basically said to the Ukraine, thanks.

Speaker 7 (23:00):
But no thanks.

Speaker 16 (23:01):
Well Q eight and I was accusing the Run of
targeting civilian science. They say one of their power and
water plans has been struck a couple of times in
two days. Qwaight relies on the salinated water for about
ninety percent of their drinking water, so they are vulnerable
to this sort of attack from Iran. The US has
responded with a strike on an Iranian nuclear power plant
under construction. There was no nuclear material at that site

(23:23):
when inspectors from THEA visited some time back, but the
UNS Nuclear watchdog is calling for a strait. However, today
comes word that the Pentagon is sending more warplanes to
the region from Britain and Germany, suggesting today further escalation
is more likely.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
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isn't a series of lawyers looking to tell let me somewhere.

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Speaker 2 (24:11):
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Speaker 16 (24:12):
Such a deal such corruptions, his Democratic Senator Adam Schiff.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
This is the President saying, give me a cut, and
I'll give you.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
The opportunity to make money off my statements, just as
I make money off my own state.

Speaker 16 (24:24):
Comp Critics note that his stock advisors have invested in
stocks who share prices have been blistered by White House
announcements along the way. Trump's saying he's not involved in
any of those investments. But Trump's financial report the other
week showed his money managers made an eye popping twenty
one thousand securities trades in six months. Some of those
trades came in stocks directly affected by Trump policy announcements.

(24:45):
For instance, when Trump announced the computer company in Vidia
would build supercomputers in this country, his advisors had bought
hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of in Vidia stock
just before that announcement. Trump's financial disclosures showed, as we
spoke at the time, that he made some two billion
dollars during the start of his second term, much of
it in crypto. Meantime, there is the revelation this week

(25:05):
that Trump's teleprompter officer, Gabriel Peirez made over one hundred
thousand dollars by betting on the prediction market. Calshier as
to what Trump is going to say in big speeches
that Perez already had seen if you can count that,
Trump will read what's on the teller prompter right. Perez
say Maine his last trade back in March and is
on indefinite leave as settlement talks take place. Trump's prad

(25:27):
Carolyn Levitt says, of this.

Speaker 11 (25:29):
There are very strict ethical guidelines here at the White
House that explicitly state.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Not to do this.

Speaker 16 (25:35):
She says, with this teleprompter guy's disclosure, the President was shocked, shocked,
I tell you he.

Speaker 11 (25:41):
Believes it's deeply unfortunate and frankly a disgrace.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
A disgrace.

Speaker 16 (25:45):
However, he was called back in March, continued to operate
on the job as teleprompter official until now, as the
media just publicized what has happened meantime to the important stuff.
Got a family member married to a Spaniard, So go
you mal all right?

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Richard Old stateside. The other one who watched this week,
I was watching Blanche. This is the guy who's going
to be ag Allegedly, there's a couple of Republicans holding
out and the Epstein thing, and I saw them specifically
say I can't meet the Epstein victims because they're lawyered
up and I'm a lawyer. Blah blah. Then he turns
up meeting the Epstein victims. They weren't happy with the meeting,
but that's beside the point. But it seems to be

(26:23):
some question mark as to whether Blanche is actually going
to get confirmed. So watch how that unfolds this week.
Ten Away from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talks
Dead Be.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
A couple of other US things. Just before we leave
at Economic Outlook, CNBC's survey out over the weekend. Are
people miserable? Yes, the inflation, the prices, the gas is
going back up. They don't think Trump's running the war properly.
They don't think Trump's running the economy properly. So that
survey didn't go well. From the FAA, this is interesting
there they've allowed Boeing to recertify their own planes again

(26:54):
the seven three seven Max. You'll know the story in
the seven eight sevens, so they decided over the weekend
that you can do. So, I don't know how thrilled
I am about that poll out this morning. We welcome
Steve Price back onto the program after eight thirty this
morning from his sojourn to Japan. He's greeted with the
poll this morning. That Labour's down three, so that's material.
One Nation's up one and the Coalition is up a

(27:18):
couple so that's a material move away from the government
to the opposition, both through One Nation and the Coalition.
So it's thirty thirty nineteen. Angus Taylor's net approval rating
minus twenty one. Albanezy minus eighteen. Pull In Hansen's neutral.
She's been in Europe and she was on one of
those Current Affairs programs last night and said some really

(27:40):
interesting things like Tommy Robinson would be more than welcome
to come to Australia any old time I'm running the place.
Oh and those mass deportations, can't get enough of them.
So she continues on. So we'll talk to Steve in
a couple of hours time five to seven.

Speaker 10 (27:55):
Pull the ins and the ouse.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
It's the fizz with business Tiber make your business productivity
to the next list.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yes, I told you a moment ago. World Cup Cup.
I couldn't care we sat at the World Cup final
at moment if it was England. If it was England,
I'd be moderately interested, obviously, if it was New Zealand,
I'd be beside myself. But if it was England. But
I mean, I couldn't give them monkeys. Who wins between
Argentina and Spain.

Speaker 7 (28:15):
What if MISSI goes out there and scores like six
of the best goals you've ever.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Seen, He's not going to And we all know that.
Infantino told the fief for Membership Association over the weekend
the tournament's brought in twenty five point six billion in revenue.
They thought originally at the start about nineteen. So they've
done well. It's because the ticket prices went through the roof.
Of course, HOSPO clipping the ticket all that stuff. Fee
per takes fifteen percent from the buyer, fifteen percent from

(28:40):
the seller and gives you spank on the bum on
the way out and goes good on your sucker. Anyway,
that's how they do it. Tickets to the final. I
can get you in there if you want one. Hospow
package is still available for you this morning. You'd need
to be in New Jersey, of course if you want
to get into the trophy lounge this morning. Not impossible
sixty k apiece. But there's a say nucleus about Argentina

(29:01):
or Spain. Unless you're from Argentina or Spain.

Speaker 10 (29:03):
How much for an early access to an Infentino.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Post eighteen five hundred and fifty two dollars for six months,
but you need to move quickly. Marcus Wheelhouse has been
coaching Ryan fox for She's at least fifteen this years,
maybe longer. Good golf for in his own right. Of course,
he was there this morning watch all this unfold. He's
with us directly after seven o'clock. Ryan himself is dealing
with the international obligations as you do as a major winner.

(29:29):
So I'm increasingly optimistic we'll get Foxy on the program
sometime between now and when we leave this morning. So
that's encouraging. So we'll get the inside word from Wheelhouse
because he watched the whole thing unfold, and if you
just joined us and it really was something to watch,
I mean it changed over the weekend obviously with the
sixty two and suddenly he became in contention. And then
he started the final round today in the final group,
and he hung in there and I suppose to a

(29:52):
degree the field came back to him, didn't they. I mean,
at the end of the day he had a reasonably
good round. But just just to watch it unfold and
this is a rare, rare day. It is a truly
global international sport and a New Zealander has won at
a Marcus Wheelhouse with us. In a couple of moments
after the news, which is next your news talk said.

Speaker 9 (30:10):
Be.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
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Speaker 2 (30:29):
News Talks d B seven past seven. So sporting highlight
of the year in the early hours of this morning
is Ryan Fox won the Open at the Royal Birkdale
and in doing so joins Michael Campbell twenty years ago,
Bob Charles sixty ish years ago as one of only
three New Zealanders ever to win a men's major Marcus
Wheelhouse as as coach and he's with us, Marcus morning,
Good morning, Mike. How are you well? I'm not as
well as you, and certainly not as well as Ryan.

(30:50):
Is it sinking in and feeling good?

Speaker 9 (30:53):
Not really as the brother's feeling good. Yeah, look amazing,
like just yeah, so so many deep breaths are going
on at the moment and states of disbelief and excitement
and yeah, all those emotions.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
It's incredible. So did it all change with the sixty two?

Speaker 18 (31:17):
Look, you know, I guess, yeah, I mean it did.
I mean, obviously there.

Speaker 9 (31:21):
Was a goal, you know, for this year to get
sort of into contention for a major. So the sixty
two got you brought us that, and then you know,
you've got to think, I mean, you know, to win
golf tournents are so hard. It's so difficult. And and
so you know, even in that position this morning, when
we're warming up and everything else that sat around what

(31:43):
we did in the process, it was just a matter
of trying to just you know, keep things normal, you know, as.

Speaker 18 (31:48):
Much as we could.

Speaker 9 (31:49):
And and and we did that, and then you know,
we always knew it was going to get abnormal out
on the golf course.

Speaker 18 (31:55):
But it's an open right so yeah, no, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
What's your role at that point when he's in the
final pairing on the final day.

Speaker 9 (32:06):
I suppose just assurance, you know, like obviously you know,
when when the gun goes off, like when he he's off,
I've got you know, there's no there's no part for
me to play apart from just being a really nervous observer.
So yeah, it's it's it's really just my job is
to is to make sure that he's happy, you know,
and and and trusting what he's doing and and yeah,

(32:27):
pretty much in that space where you can just let
it go and just go and play golf, and that's
what he's good at, right, So that's what that's my job.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
It appeared, I mean it affected every one in the
field the same way. But but the benign conditions the
entire tournament, I mean, that's a dream come true in
links golf, isn't it, especially in that part of the world.

Speaker 18 (32:45):
Yeah, I guess it is.

Speaker 9 (32:46):
You know, like Fox, he is, you know, an unbelievablein player, right,
So I it never you know, never really worried me
or asked about that.

Speaker 18 (32:55):
But yeah, I suppose you know, when you look at
you know, links golf.

Speaker 9 (32:59):
It's a certainly a type of golf, and you know
with hard greens and running it up from bumping runs
and all the things that's around it.

Speaker 18 (33:06):
So yeah, just just just amazing.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Exactly when eighteenth he hadn't booted the thing, I think
two pars and a bogie and what are you thinking?
You just leave it to him? He looked confident to me,
he looked perfectly normal.

Speaker 9 (33:26):
Yeah, I don't think he was like that underneath him,
but yeah, I mean, look, you know, I mean Fox,
he's you know, he's got such you know, he's gussier,
you know, like it's he's a he's a one. He's
proven that. You know, when he gets a sniff, it's
it's a it's a real you know, it's a chance,
and he pushes a go button and it's And today

(33:46):
was just an example that you know, once he got
in the hut, there's no back off. You know, he
knew what he had to do with with obviously Cam
young and at nine and you know, he was out
there and with with some sort of freedom, just going
I'm just going to try and win this golf on him,
and and today he did, and it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Not that it matters. But would you have backed him
in a playoff?

Speaker 18 (34:10):
Yeah, I would have, you know, like you never know.
I mean, hey, look it's it's.

Speaker 9 (34:16):
It's all things that that could have ordered. But yeah,
like I do, I back him under pressure. And as
I said before, you know that he thrives on that stuff.
He's he's just an improven winner. And it's I mean,
he has lost a couple of playoffs in this time,
but he's but he's white.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Couple two we I mean, obviously I know where this sits.
But the last time most of the country focused heavily
on him was when he when he had those wins
on the PGA. This this, there's Trump's the PGA obviously,
but I mean this is the pinnacle, isn't it. That
doesn't get any better than this, No, it doesn't.

Speaker 9 (34:48):
And it's you know, I think the Open Trophy, you know,
as the player jugs so to speak, as you know,
just one of those things was such a special event.

Speaker 18 (34:56):
You know, he's he's had a lot of success on
links golf in the.

Speaker 9 (35:00):
Asked you know, winning the Dunhill and playing well in
the Irish Opens and the Scottish Opens, et cetera. So
you know, he was always in that, you know, and
that held in that regard of being.

Speaker 7 (35:09):
A great links player.

Speaker 9 (35:10):
So so this is very apt from to win, you know,
the Open Championship.

Speaker 18 (35:15):
But it's it's so freaking hard.

Speaker 9 (35:16):
To win these golf tims and there's so many great players,
and you know, obviously everything's got to go your way
and and and but you know, it's it's hard work,
and it's different things that sit around, you know, the
luck and all you know, all those of the things
that make up winning sporting events.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
What's your sense of it. Does it take him to
the next level?

Speaker 9 (35:37):
Yeah, I mean it's there's no doubt, right, It's you're
sitting in a in a very small group in New Zealand. Well,
you know three players that have ever won a major.
I mean it's you know, like you' you can nobody
can ever take that away from him now, you know.

Speaker 18 (35:52):
He's a major winner. And I think it's just I mean,
I'm so stoked for him. It's it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah, So she'll be and and and not to put
too fine a point on at Marcus, but people who
follow golf know your role in his success. So you
must take at least a decent amount of credit for this,
and I hope you feel that.

Speaker 9 (36:12):
Yeah, I do. You know, like it's just on the
phone to Anaka and his wife, and you know, we've
been together for fifteen years, and it's it's just I'm
very just incredibly proud of him and what he's done
and and just the way he is and the human
he is as well. So there's multiple levels of pride
and that and and yeah, I am.

Speaker 18 (36:31):
I'm really proud of myself. I think it's it's it's
always been a goal of mine to win a major.

Speaker 9 (36:37):
And I haven't said that out loud to soo many people,
but you know, like, now.

Speaker 18 (36:42):
That's happened, it's just like holy holy Hecker. You know
it's it's yeah, it's free, surreal, very surreal.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
It's fantastic. We're stuck for you. Go well and appreciate
your time very much. Good to talk to you. Appreciate it.
Marcus Wheelhouse, Ah, he's, as I say, Ryan's doing the
international thing at the moment. So when he gets into
the lounge where Marcus is at the moment at Royal Birkdale,
we'll get him on the program. What a Morning A
thirteen past seven New Stig Zimbi, the Prime Minister christ
of Luxembak in the country from holiday. This morning is

(37:10):
where the shortly sixteen past seven are speaking, which the
Net's got some good Quiet Sunday coverage for their consent policy.
In a nutshell, there must be an active yes, not
the absence of a no. This would bring us in
line apparently with the UK and parts of Australia where
the law defines what consent is anywhere in chargeable of this,
as the National Parties Justice spokesperson Paul Goldsmith, who's with us,

(37:30):
good morning, good morning. So the consent and the explanation
of where does this sit on the totem pole of
stuff that needs urgent legislative attention in your mind.

Speaker 19 (37:40):
Look at something that we need to do. But we're
signaling that if we're re elected as a national government,
this will be one of our priorities for the next term.
And we've been working way. We've got a massive issue
of sexual violence in this country and so we've been
working through to restore real consequences. That's the first thing,
because you know, if you go through the whole procedure

(38:00):
and the outcome is a bit of home detention, then
that doesn't denounce the act, so that was number one.
Then we sort of worked on the culture of excuses
that we had inherited. You know that, you know, if
you do do a crime, it's not really your fault,
it's society's fault. So we stopped funding all those cottage reports.
And then we're working our way through all this legislation
and we're signaling that this comes next if we get back.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
What are the practical outworkings in a court case of yes, no,
he said, she said, which is where I assume most
of that stuff ends up.

Speaker 10 (38:30):
Yes.

Speaker 19 (38:30):
And we're not changing that fundamental burden of proof that's required.
And you know these are difficult cases, but you know,
a conviction for rape is a maximum sentence of twenty years,
so of course there needs to be beyond reasonable doubt,
and they need to prove that consent wasn't given or
that the defendant didn't believe on reasonable grounds that it was.

(38:53):
So we're not changing any of those basics. What we
are changing is updating the explanation for consent, which is
out of touch with what we've been teaching our kids
for a long time now, which is, you know, it's
not there needs to be an affirmative yes before you
start your activity, not just the absence of a no.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah. I don't think anyone disagrees with the gist of it,
but you know, if you look at the UK and
parts of Australia, hasn't materially changed literally anything at all.

Speaker 19 (39:22):
Well, it hasn't had a big impact on conviction rates
because we're not changing that fundamental high test. But it
is part of sending a clear signal that society wants
people to be very clear about consent and it updates
what we're teaching with the law, and so, you know,
I think it's an important thing to do. It's something

(39:44):
that campaigners have been calling for for quite some time.
But you're right, it's not going to change the world overnight,
but it's all part of a change in society's attitude,
you know. I mean fifty years ago, you know that
there was a widespread view that you only have to
give consent once that your marriage vow and that is it.
And so things have changed quite dramatically over time, and

(40:04):
i'd think for the better.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
All right, I appreciate your time. Justice spokes best with
the National Party, Paul Goldsmith, Mike Ask Goldsmith. When dot
Com is being extradited, Lance, I don't need to. He
signed it off and so that's in the hands of
the Court's got nothing to do with the government. It
did have something to do with the government for a
period of time, but once they signed it off short
of dot Com and as lawyer of finding it yet
another revenue through the judicial process in this country. In

(40:27):
the last time I saw he was looking to go
all the way to the United Nations. But it's gone
beyond the politicians. Mike I questioned why Fox's win would
be bigger than the Warriors winning the NRL. I thought
it would be on par at least Murray. These are
the great conversations we have in sport, and this is
why sport's the only thing that unites us anymore at all.
No one loves the Warriors more than I do. But
I can tell you that a regionalish competition in a

(40:50):
game of sport that really isn't global or remotely so,
does not in any way, shape or form, come close
to winning a golfing major. There are some sports in
the world that are truly international. Football is one of them,
Golf is another, Basketball's another. Tennis is another. To win
a major in those sports as a New Zealander puts

(41:10):
you at the very pinnacle of global sport, and when
you look at it in that context, as much as
it pains me to say, rugby league ain't even close.

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I think about this over the weekend. You watch the speech.
Watch his speech Friday with the war. He doesn't know
how to finish it. Seems to me the Trump plan,
given the Iran problem, will reflect badly for him in

(42:36):
the midterms is too Basically now, Jerry manned of the
boat by pretending they've got an emergency. That was largely
the point of Friday's speech, wasn't it, which contained a
reissuing of old material, none of which specifically claimed his
famed twenty twenty were stolen. A couple of polls out
over the weekend have won his approval rating for the
war and the economy down again, and to the overall
view of personal financial circumstances among Americans at multi year lows.

(42:59):
Americans base miserable, and the import prices, by the way
over the weekend as well out of China way higher
than expected, which of course means everything gets more expensive
for those already miserable and adds of course to inflation.
And that's before you get to the thirty year fixed
mortgage rates which came out over the weekend as well.
They're now the mid sixes once again multi year highs
and killing off any summer house buying sentiment. So faced

(43:20):
with all of that, stacking an election would seem the
only way to move forward. Now. Whether he can pull
it off will be interesting and worrying of course, to watch.
You wonder if at some point even the Republicans who
have stayed the course with the increasing amounts of madness
might see it as a bridge too far. Looks increasingly
obvious that America is being run by a dictator, if
not in reality, certainly in his own mind. His whole

(43:42):
second term has been about testing the boundaries of presidential power,
mainly thanks to the Supreme Court, though in a futile fashion.
But the plan appears. You know, you try ten different things,
maybe win two. An emergency around voting will be another
test of the system. Ironically, this should be fertile ground
for the Democrats, but they're busy pulling themselves apart as
they scrap over a progressive madness driven by them and

(44:04):
DAMI brigade versus centralism as led by the likes of
you know, people like Gavin Newsom. But one of the
aforementioned polls only gave them a four point edge on
congressional success. All that madness and corruption in the White
House and you still can't muster a runaway lead. For
goodness sake, How broken does that make the place look?
Which would be fine if this was Poland or Turkey,

(44:25):
but it's America and America counts, which is why we
should all be worried because it can't end well. Fos
Gig were apparently standing by for the latest round of
terriff increases. It was supposed to happen allegedly Friday, so
he couldn't do it with APA, so he's going to
do it through section three oh one. We're going to
land with twelve and a half. We're currently on ten,

(44:46):
so it's not materially the end of the world, but
that'll get tested in some way, shape or form. But
the announcement hasn't come. Speaking of announcements. I watched Peter's
speech yesterday, which once again seemed to go on an
awfully long time. It was certainly longer than a Sunday.
I thought, I'd better do it. I better be on
top of this, and they've taken on and I mate
wrap it up. For God's sake. It's Sunday. I've got
things to do anyway. There's one billion dollars to go

(45:09):
mapping some stuff. So first of all, he's spending money.
We don't have to do something that we don't know
the outcome on. Because once you've mapped the territory, it's
entirely possible they might come back and go m not
as much as we thought, mate, And that's before you
get to the people. Once you've mapped it, who comes
in and does it? Because it's entirely possible the next
government will be labor and they'll ban it all again.

(45:30):
And then they said we're getting the money from you
said the Future Fund. Now I'm open to correction. I
don't think the Future Fund had started yet. It's a
labor idea, the Future Fund. So what the hell's he
talking about? What's going on here? Prime Minister?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
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Speaker 2 (45:55):
Three minutes away from eight plans to Chrysto. But Luxen's
back with us from holiday. Good to see you. Good
to see you too, like out of ten, what's that
the holiday?

Speaker 7 (46:04):
Oh?

Speaker 20 (46:04):
Well, time with Amanda fantastic. So I hadn't seen it
for a few months. So it was great to just
sort of sit and chat and reintroduce ourselves to each
other fair enough too.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
And can I say where you went doesn't matter where
you went.

Speaker 20 (46:14):
You went now into Hawaii, And I've got to tell
you though, I don't you know, you know, I talked
about it before, but I reckon America's on an economic downswing.
They've got some real challenges in that country. And you know,
you come back home and we're on an upswing.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
And I believe we are good growth. And I don't
want to say that in a political sense because you're
the Prime ministers sitting across from me, but I do
believe that we are on the right track slowly. I look,
Australia is not Australian, certainly not.

Speaker 20 (46:37):
I don't know whether you caught up with those latest numbers,
but we had fourteen percent growth and kiwis coming home
from Australia at the end of December for the full year.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
So I was watching the Australian property market at the
moment along with the taps, and i'd be doing the
same thing. Coupe and Cook two fairies that were named
while you were away by Winston Peters who thought there
might be some sort of frisson. Great names. Well, I
couldn't agree more. Who literally names them? Who literally does?
Is that a cabinet decision? Is that your decision? God,
I hope it's not a cabinet decision.

Speaker 20 (47:04):
If we're making decisions on naming theories, we've got a
bit of a problem. It's a bigger things to talk
about that decision. Did you know that? That's what I
didn't know that's what they're going to be called. But
I think they're great names. I mean, I think they're fantastic.
It celebrates in the Zealand's maritime history. They've got connections
to the cock straight both of them. I think it's fantastic.
I mean think the most important thing is that we're
getting a solid solution in place, because it is literally

(47:26):
a state highway that we've got to connect to islands with.
And you know, after the hell of a mess the
labor left, you know, mismanaging that project, we've got it
all gripped up and I think we've been good.

Speaker 18 (47:35):
Check.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Speaking of the US, we were apparently standing by some
sort of tarriff announcement. Are you aware of that on
the three one section three zero one?

Speaker 20 (47:43):
Yeah, I mean we're sort of We don't have any
any idea as to where it's going to go either
in terms of he's got this rolling mechanism now that
because he got overturned in the in the Supreme Court
with the tariff's piece, he's having to find other bits
of legislation to activate them again and roll them over.
So we'll see where we get to here. But I mean,
we've been anywhere between ten to fifteen percent in recent.

Speaker 7 (48:03):
Last couple of years.

Speaker 20 (48:04):
We've actually grown our business into the US. Regardless of
all of that, our experts are pretty smart at navigating
all of that and done a good job.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Okay, New Zealand Switzerland as the next cab off the
pre trade rank. Do we have any sort of timeline
on that.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
No.

Speaker 20 (48:19):
I mean basically, Todd, we've set out a national party
policy we want to do deals with seven other countries
essentially start those up in the next term Europe. There's
some infel countries that aren't part of the EU, Switzerland
being one, are THEFT countries as they're called, and so
Todd or host is something called the future of Investment,
Trade and Partnership. And off the back of that he's

(48:40):
kicked it off with the Swiss.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Are we down to the rats and mice?

Speaker 7 (48:43):
Now?

Speaker 2 (48:43):
I mean, I know there's a billion and a half
and two way, but are we down to we've done
the business with everyone that's really worth doing volume more, We've.

Speaker 20 (48:52):
Got about seventy percent of our trade and with FTAs
at the moment. I mean, I think posts the recent
round will lift it even further again. But I think
there's quite a lot of opportunity even in the current agreements.
You get these things called non tariff barriers where there's
often go slow through customs or things that end up
and advertently adding costs to our exporters. And there's probably
a billion dollars worth of stuff we can take out

(49:13):
of that alone. We've taken nine hundred million, I think
out in the last couple of years, just by making
sure we smooth those those agreements. But look at countries
like Bangladesh, and essentially what's happening is two thirds of
the middle class are going to be in the Indo
Pacific region. By the end of the decade, two thirds
of the economic activity is going to be at our
part of the world. So the countries like like the

(49:33):
bangladeshes of the world that have large Indonesias, that have
large populations, you know, we've still got huge amounts of
growth to realize out of these places.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Were you home in time yesterday to watch Peter's speech?

Speaker 20 (49:44):
No, I saw some high I saw some headlines on it,
or read some commentary on it. Okay, well, I watched
the whole thing for what it for? Wherevery patient man?

Speaker 2 (49:53):
For what it's worth? Was it seven hours twenty or
how did it work? Well, it was quite lengthy. The
funny thing is he claimed the he's getting the money
as an idea. Do you like it or not?

Speaker 20 (50:03):
I think it's deeply ironic. I mean New Zealand first,
labor and the Greens are the guys that killed oil
and gas. Let's be honest about it. They stood up
on stage, We're just sinder Oar, Durnam, Megan Woods and
they killed it. And so it's a lovely idea. But
the point is it's just somewhat deeply ironic coming from
New Zealand. First given the other guys that support the
oil and gas band. Having said that, we do need

(50:24):
to make sure we've got firming capacity in the country,
and we're already doing it. You know, we've got two
hundred million dollars we've set aside to try and co
invest with private investors, but we need private investors to
come to the market. And at the end of the day,
these guys killed it. They seen a chilling effect through
those investors and why would you move hundreds and millions
of dollars into New Zealand. So we'll keep trying, but
it's bloody hard because they did well.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
He said afterwards, he said, he said that the money
is coming from the Future Fund. I thought the Future
Fund was a labor It is the labor idea, It
is the future on the labors his own version. I
think New zealansion of that. Okay, so that hasn't started yet.
But the problem with the.

Speaker 20 (50:56):
Future fund ideas that I've seen is that you know,
if you're looking at an idee, like the Singaporeans have
this thing called ta mask that right, you know, and
you know this and they but since the seventies they've
swapped assets in and out of that that vehicle of
that as you know, of that entity. Both Labor and
He's in first don't want to sell anythings. So I
mean the point is you've got to recycle things and say,
if you're getting a negative return or a two percent return,

(51:17):
I'm switching that stock. You know, that that investment up
to something else, and you've got to be and that's
what the Singaporeans have done. So and the future fund
issue with Labor, if that's their idea is you know, frankly,
you know what happens all the dividends which fund a
lot of our health and education and other things as well.
So it's all a bit man.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
The two hundred million that you've got set aside, the
skin and the game thing for oil and gas exploration,
is anyone taking that up?

Speaker 20 (51:38):
Not no, not that I'm aware of. We've got some others.
We've got some people that are wanting to do deeper
exploration and sort of in very early stages of wanting
to do exploration.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
There was a West Australian company I think that they
were West Australian. From that have applied and then you
put it into the three month competitively correct.

Speaker 20 (51:54):
But when no one else has taken up the moment,
we're trying to facilitate as much as we can. But
look to be honest, when you go oil and gas
like they did, and New Zealand first was part of it,
and they got to front that and they got to
own that. The reality is you seen if you're sitting
in Canada and you've got hundreds of billion millions of
dollars worth of assets, you got one hundred and ninety
five countries with lots of options, and New Zealand and
the Deep South Pacific says to you, we don't want

(52:15):
your money anymore. That's been a very damaging thing out there.
So we will keep trying the thing I did. Whether
you saw, but last week the Meridian CEO said, actually
the action that the intervention we made around l ERG importocity,
if you go look at that forward pricing, as I
kept saying at the time, that has really helped and
it's good that he's saying that will result in low

(52:36):
prices next year, and it better happened.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
It will have See what he actually said was the
generation's going down. That's good, but retail isn't, the levees aren't,
the GST isn't transition, So my bill at home, yeah,
doesn't change.

Speaker 20 (52:51):
He's saying about commercial customers because of wholesale prices.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Which is good, and that's great because they lost.

Speaker 20 (52:56):
A lot of those wholesale guys have been struggling across the.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
L A lot of the councils, I assume you're aware of.
So counsels at the moment are rushing to do deals
with locally we right before you change the law. Could
you not have seen them coming? Seymour says he'll retrospectively
kill them.

Speaker 20 (53:16):
Will you. Well, it's a big problem. It's completely disingenuous
the councils to actually go do agreements that are legally
binding under old legislation when they know there's a new
one coming. So you know, Chris Bishop's taking advice on that.
Here something to say about it, very very soon, but.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
You mean soon today this week? Very soon with it?
But what's the advice legal advice you're going to know.

Speaker 20 (53:36):
It's important that if you're going to make an intervention,
which is that you actually want to do it once
it right, I don't.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
So you're going to retrospectively look to kill this or
do something that prevents them from doing these deals before
you're doing it.

Speaker 20 (53:50):
Correct, I mean there has to be some intervention because
essentially you can't. I think it's I think it's completely
disingenuous for local governments to go off and do that.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Do you do it retrospectively because Canterbury is the one
at the moment that's about to but there are several
who have Yes.

Speaker 20 (54:04):
No, I'm aware there's some that have and some that haven't,
and some of their in process. All I'm just saying
to you is we know it's a problem. We think
it's deeply disingenuous and cynical. There's a new piece of
legislation coming called the RMA Reform Laws, which are coming
in place in the next couple of months. You should
do it on the back of once you know where you.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Are with the new law, so you can do something
away and will we will look at our options and
w'll have somebody say about it very soon. So you
clearly looked at more than New York because you know
what you're going to do. Well, we've got that look
on your face. I can tell the look on it.
I can tell the look on you.

Speaker 20 (54:33):
People can't see the look on the face on radio. No, no, no,
it's being filmed, going it's the world Wide Web.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Mate. They're looking at you now. And so you are
going to do something about a problem.

Speaker 20 (54:43):
We'll have something to say about it very soon.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Okay. Elbow last week talked about AI. Why aren't we
talking more about AI and data centers and having some
sort of something more around them.

Speaker 20 (54:53):
Yeah, Look, I mean I think on data centers, the
key thing is that any power they require there has
to be additional, right it's got They've actually got to
generate unique supply. You don't want them ripping into the
New Zealand supply of electricity and therefore cracking up prices
for retail customers. But I just if I take a
step back on a broader point, AI for New Zealand
is a hugely positive thing. And actually there's been quite

(55:14):
a negative narrative around AI now for a number of years.
When I look at what other governments are doing for example,
and how they run their public service. There's a huge
opportunity for us to do that much better. Obviously a
big part of that is data center investments. We have
plenty of land, we have plenty of water, we have
good temperate climates. But obviously any investment in data centers
has got to be able to bring additional generation to

(55:35):
our system. We can't have it taking away from the
current system. So that's sort of so there is thinking
about those frameworks that we've got underway.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
I chat GBT the other day the sitting days left
in Parliament this year? It says ten? Is that correct?

Speaker 20 (55:47):
This comes from a man who's just had what seven
weeks holiday in New York or something whatever.

Speaker 10 (55:52):
I'm looking at.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
This is my calendar. I was looking at it. I
was looking I was looking at the things you've got
left to do? Legis speak. You've got ten days left?

Speaker 18 (56:00):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Would that be great? You're rising in September.

Speaker 20 (56:03):
We're rising with parliament lists on September twenty four. Right,
We've got I think we've got three sitting blocks going
between now and then, so three three week one. Now,
we did some urgency as you know, just before the
last recess and we may have to use some more
agency as well. We've got some big things to get done.
You will get it done as Oh, absolutely, yeah, I
mean we've been I mean, this is a government's probably
had more legislation I think since the early eighties than

(56:25):
any other governments. And we've got a it's a lot
of planes to land in sequence and in the legislative agenda.
But there's a lot to get done.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Okay, nice to see if Prime Minister thirteen to two the.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
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Speaker 21 (56:41):
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Speaker 2 (56:43):
Didn't have time to mention Bill Birch probably goes back
a little bit further than Lux's association with the National Party.
But Bill Burch prior had died at the age of
ninety two. Dealt with Bill Birch many many, many, many, many,
many many times over the years. Not a personality, and
I don't think I'm being cruel or rude in saying that.
Not not really a party boy, not really alive wire,
but a man of tremendous influence, of course, and many

(57:06):
respects to the original Stephen Joyce. So if you think
of Stephen Joyce as the man who kind of pulled
all the strings and did everything for a while there.
Bill Birch was the sort of original version of that.
Muldoon in to Vulger of course, and Shipley if you've
got time, newsroom had one. I couldn't work it out.
It's either a negative thing or it's an insightful and
slightly negative thing. They got hold of some briefing papers.

(57:30):
It was called Project DEM and it was Tourism New
Zealand's briefing to the government on the Michelin Stars. And
that's worth reading to the extent that what we were
led to believe may happen and what did happen were
kind of well, let's just say that if you gave
them the appropriate amount of money, you would know the outcome.

(57:52):
And let me come back to it in just a
couple of moments eight to.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
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Speaker 2 (58:00):
So Project DEM was a secret business case. Tourism New
Zealand emphasized the upside scenarios, which you can't blame them for.
That's you know, you're thinking, as a tourist organization, you
want to create a bit of fizz, So why wouldn't
you accentuate the positive so to speak. Essentially though, for
the initial fee, and we didn't know this previously, so
the government paid six or seven million dollars, but the

(58:21):
initial fee was just short of two million. It was
one point nine million, And essentially it was guaranteed that
at least one star would be handed out to a
restaurant if that fee was paid. So that's different from
what we might have been led to believe. In other words,
good Micheline people would wander freely around the countryside and
review a whole lot of restaurants and if we were

(58:41):
good enough, we might get something. So for it's a
pay to play. Subsequent briefing in August of twenty twenty five,
the first Michelin Stars would be awarded by the end
of June and twenty six, so in other words, they'd
already decided they were at handing out stars. Then the
question in this article, which is well worth reading, how
realistic tourism New Zealand being it pitched thirty six thousand

(59:02):
additional visitors one hundred and eighty five million extra tourist
revenue to the minister. This is Louise Upston in one
of the same briefings. They did also admit that, in
all their bullishness, they had previously missed its targets for
offpeak guest nights. Missed the target on the call marker,
credited business as awareness of Ed's Taiarchi brand, and also
noted the recovery in the youth tourist market was lagging.

(59:23):
So the good talking bullish not necessarily at being accurate.
It's the old treasury equation, so make up your own
mind from it. Because there was some consternation at the
time that there were people everyone we know has been
to a restaurant we had going, jeez, I tell you what,
that deserves a Michelin star and you didn't get it.
Why not? We'll never know. Because Michelin don't talk. You

(59:45):
can argue that it was nothing more than a pr exercise,
and good on us for doing it. It got some hype,
it got some noise, it got some bookings. It may
well get some tourists here. Therefore it was worth it.
But the article itself does give you an insight into
how these things work that we previously didn't know, and
I found it moderately interesting. So that's on the news
room site. It's all about Ryan Fox. Obviously this morning's

(01:00:07):
still standing by from the Mahavivory expectator. He needs to
leave what he's doing in wander up to the lounge
where Marcus m wheelhouses and have a chat to us.
So that could well happen, but we'll do the sport
for you shortly as well.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
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Speaker 7 (01:00:30):
Dead Ben sprung Room. It is wrong run come be
all Blacks.

Speaker 10 (01:00:39):
It's good for the Irish and the three from three
in July and now they lock ahead through South Africa.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
The Warriors come.

Speaker 10 (01:00:48):
Away with the w They have beaton the Saint George
Illawarra Dragons twenty points to twelve.

Speaker 12 (01:00:56):
The jumps down on the Josmian Era.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
It is a big Qualmies win.

Speaker 10 (01:01:02):
The burst of twenty twenty six forty three points to
the spring Bots in the Welsh Left. It absolutely named.

Speaker 13 (01:01:12):
With a score of two hundred and seventy the winner
of the gold medal and the champion golfer of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Ryan Fox.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Here's before we get to the legs. Just the beats,
wind us up on the beats. There's a halftime show
at the under World Cup. Lost the hits up, head.

Speaker 22 (01:01:47):
And weak, and the mummains good morning, good is dancing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
So far? I'm obviously gone because I back here. But
my ciment is the halftime show is meatably better than
the quality of the football. Would there be a fair assistment?
Nil all at halftime? A bit a bit of anks
back and forth, Jason, how are you.

Speaker 23 (01:02:10):
At a nonsense? This halftime show at nonsense? What are
we watching?

Speaker 11 (01:02:15):
Super Bowl? Just get the football back on?

Speaker 9 (01:02:17):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
What football? The role around on the grass and sort
of score no goals football? I like the What would
you rather say? Good morning to you? What would you
rather have? Would you might have had what I'm sure Jason, would.

Speaker 10 (01:02:26):
You would have enjoyed you would have enjoyed yesterday? Well,
that's my question, that's my question.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Would you rather have a no one cares third and
fourth place game? Whether pile of goals or do you
want some sort of supertense exchange where in the fire
where nothing happens?

Speaker 10 (01:02:40):
Well, it's no, it's super tense because it's the World
Cup final. Mate, yesterday was a playoff for bronze, which
no one wanted to play. No one really defended that stoutly,
and that's why you get ten goals. Completely different, completely
different mindset.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Yeah, but it's like your shoulders cramping up on the
eighteenth at Royal Birkdale, isn't it. You just let it
fly and the next thing you know, Champion.

Speaker 10 (01:03:01):
I tell you what they didn't did they? That has
to go down. That has to go down along with
Bob Charles Michael Campbell Didier Coe as one of the
great sporting achievements in New Zealand history. To win the
Open when he was tied for fifty second and only
just made the cut after two rounds. My understanding is

(01:03:22):
that it's the biggest comeback in golf major history. And
then to win with that birdie put, which wasn't easy
on the eighteenth he admits his hands were all over
the show. And to win the Open Championship. Ryan Fox,
what an amazing morning, What an amazing achievement.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Yeah, I agree, don't you think? Jason? And we had
Wheelhouse on and I'm standing by for him to join
a short he's got the international stuff to do. But
it's because I was up. I happened to watch it
and it was I mean, it's I don't like Lynx
golf because there's so much crapshoot about it. But he was.
He didn't look for a moment like he was not
up to the occasion.

Speaker 23 (01:04:00):
Never And even when things didn't go well on fifteen,
I think he had. He had trouble on fifteen, didn't
he any He kind of took advantage of the par
five on the seventeen to get out of it of trouble.

Speaker 11 (01:04:10):
But that birdie at.

Speaker 23 (01:04:11):
The end, three perfect shots yep on eighteen, the t shot,
the approach, the parts I mean for Ryan Fox, Look,
he's just got the hang of it, hasn't he.

Speaker 7 (01:04:20):
You know that.

Speaker 23 (01:04:20):
I think the wins he had on the PGA Tour
last year have really helped him and to win the
Open Championship. It's, as Sev said, so infrequent in our history,
one of the great supporting moments. I just and what
a champion of a man as well. We all know
Ryan Fox, We've all had the chance to chat to him.

(01:04:40):
Just a just a down to earth normal New Zealander
who is just just brilliant at golf.

Speaker 10 (01:04:46):
It's a great story. As you know, mate, he's never changed.
The five million prize money will never change and the
fact he's a major Open winner won't change. Ryan Fox
comes from a great family, great family support. Over the
year he's he's battled through ups and downs, you know,
in his golfing careers most golfers do right. But to
see him today on the eighteenth and just nail that drive,

(01:05:10):
nail that approach shot will go down as one of
the great Kiwi golf shots of all and in the
stand the three and a half meters with his ping
putter positioned perfectly. It must have been the nerves must
have been jangling so much and then he nails it.
Eddie would have gone to a playoff that he had
if he had missed that part. Who knows what's happened.

(01:05:32):
And Mike, you've played enough golf, mate, to realize it's
a sport where not only are you battling the rest
of the field, you're battling the course, you're backling your
own mind. You're battling your physical state and anything any
minute tweak in your golf swing, any little era can
totally ruin your whole round. It is such a precise sport.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
It's an amazing thought like that, isn't it? But happening?
Are you answered at Jason? I think so. I I
pose the question earlier if you could win a major,
would it be this one or would you go the Masters?
And you seem to indicate that you'd win the Open.

Speaker 23 (01:06:08):
Well, yeah, but like you, Mike, I mean link Links
golf is a you know, the defense of the course
is the wind, which actually hasn't been there this weekend.
The Masters has got the prestige about it, but it
feels a bit more like Disneyland to me when you
watch the Masters. This is this is pure golf. Look,
if you're in any of them, you're right up there.
The exemptions he gets, now, Ryan Fox five years at

(01:06:30):
all of the majors, now, yeah, the prize money aside,
but yeah, look he's I mean, it's just just a
brilliant way to start the week.

Speaker 10 (01:06:38):
Do you think the fact that Royal Birkdale was absolutely parched?
It reminded me of a key we golf course, a
bit of a go for ram in the middle of summer.
Do you think Brian Fox that helped him a little
bit of home.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
But I mean the fair amount it is. I mean
you say that, and I was watching the ball would
roll for a mile, But I mean the problem in
the links golf course, it can roll for a mile
or right or then come back on you and go
into a bunk or a you know, tussic or And
that's the weird thing about it, wasn't it? Gotta take
a break more in a moment.

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Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Businesses have to bolt through this andrew the World Cup
as a whole thing. Your view, three countries, forty eight
teams Spain or Argentina will win it as an event?
What do you think?

Speaker 18 (01:07:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:07:37):
I thought I thought it initially, Mike. It might have
been overblowing with that many teams. And I've quite enjoyed it.
It has gone on a long time, but I enjoyed.
I enjoyed a lot of the pool games. I enjoyed
the atmosphere. I thought the venues were fantastic, and I
think probably the two best teams made the final.

Speaker 23 (01:07:54):
Yeah Parney, Yeah, I would have liked to say France there,
but but yeah, all of that, all of that stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:08:01):
I mean, I'm going to miss it. Actually, one hundred
and four games.

Speaker 23 (01:08:04):
I thought it was going to be a lot too,
but I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do tomorrow.

Speaker 11 (01:08:07):
So yeah, I'm going to miss it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
About that idea, what to read? What are they going
to sixty four or whatever? I mean, that's that's just insane,
isn't it.

Speaker 10 (01:08:14):
That's ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah too. Is it
The nixt Cup begins in South America for the anniversary.

Speaker 11 (01:08:25):
Uruguay. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 10 (01:08:26):
It starts and yeah nineteen, but it's not hosted. Yeah,
it's not hosted by South Americans.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Mind you. They made the money and that's all they're into,
aren't they. I mean that they made billions and billions
of dollars. It's the wealthiest sport in the world. I
guess sav AB's does what we saw over the weekend,
along with the other two weeks, justify the Renny.

Speaker 10 (01:08:44):
Decision to hire Dave Rennie, Yeah, completely, Yeah, they've improved
every week, which we've wanted to see. Those Irish players
at Irish Team and O makes and the All Blacks
and large patches of that game them look really second rate.
So I thought it was a very good performance to
playing at pace. So Damien McKenzie playing with Freedom, had

(01:09:07):
his best game in a Black jersey for a long time.
Patrick Tupolotto a new lease of life. So I think
clearly the coaches as each week goes on and leading
up into the South African tour and in South Africa,
I think this coaching group is getting even more out
of these players, which is what you want to see.
And you want the All Blacks to go back to

(01:09:27):
how they used to play with some real punch up
front and entertaining football. And yes they do have a
great chance of maybe not winning well, winning the series
in South Africa is going to be extremely difficult, but
winning the odd test over the year is now not impossible.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Biny.

Speaker 11 (01:09:45):
Just clarity, just clarity of what is required. I reckon.

Speaker 23 (01:09:50):
You listen to Dave Rennie and he says something and
you understand it. I reckon internally, that's exactly what's happened here.
Those players are one hundred percent clear in what was
required of them. He basically he probably just says, right,
here's what I want you to do, and they say, okay,
we'll go out there and do it.

Speaker 11 (01:10:06):
There's no confusion, there's no gray area, there's.

Speaker 23 (01:10:09):
Nothing other than total clarity in the way that he
wants them to play. And yeah, I think they've there
are a really good chance of I mean, it seems
odd to say it, doesn't it, but to square that
series in South Africa and Baltimore, I think two to
two would be a really really good result.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Interesting. I rose at the rest start of the show,
sev there's no reason why the Warriors. We talk about
the Warriors and you know, playoffs and all that stuff.
It's no reason why the Warriors can't be the minor premiers.
You thought about that?

Speaker 10 (01:10:38):
Uh, yeah, I have. Do you think Penrith will lose
another useless?

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Penrith are off the boil? Penrith have been missed mentally
and there's no state.

Speaker 10 (01:10:46):
Of origin its state of origin hangover? Is it?

Speaker 15 (01:10:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
I don't know what it is. I don't care, but
all I know is that we're two points off the
lead and there's no reason why we can't win the premiership.
And no one's talked about that so far. When the
premiership and win the entire title all in one year,
why not.

Speaker 10 (01:10:59):
Got to They've got to put away teams. That's in
George Easier though.

Speaker 23 (01:11:03):
No, Well they played Penrith. They played Penrith and that
that game in itself. They play them at go media.
What a couple of weeks, three weeks weeks and you're right,
the way, the way is clear for them seven games
to go. I reckon they can totally be minor premiers.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Yeah, I reckon, there's no reason why not. Hey, just
if you either of you can be bothered. My little
motor racing thing of the weekend, which is quite cute.
Speaking of Ryan Fox and Bob Charles and history. Liam
Lawson was at the Goodwood you know, the Goodwood Speed Festival,
so he got to drive. They drive a highlight of cars,
you know.

Speaker 10 (01:11:34):
Drive McLaren's Ford GT.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Didn't he He drove that. He drove McLaren's GT exactly,
Denny Holm McLaren And if people don't know the story,
that was the GT. The gdo that was built to win,
to win Lemon and they won one it they got
one and two and that car was there and he
drove that. So there was a little piece of.

Speaker 10 (01:11:55):
Think one of his teammates with someone else drove Denny Holmes. Yeah,
Ford as well, what a great thrill exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
And you can tell, you know, when you know people,
you can tell people when they say, oh, that was
really cool, thank you, they don't mean it versus when
they were genuinely blown away by an experience and they
got the full weight of history and what they were
part of it.

Speaker 10 (01:12:14):
He looked that's what he saw. Yeah, he looks so excited. Amazing,
amazing noise, obviously incredible, an amazing Kiwi history. How just
back to the golf mine. Do you realize in one
hundred and sixty six years of golf majors there's been
two hundred and thirty winners only and now we have
another new Zealander on that podium.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
That's an important point. That's what makes today so significant.
As I tried to explain earlier, this is global. So
golf is global, Basketball's global, Tennis is global, Football's global,
and we get bogged down so much in sport that
to be frank isn't as global.

Speaker 10 (01:12:49):
And this is with golf in this country. It's reasonably
accessible right, it's and it's been booming since COVID. Will
we ever have a Tennis Grand Slam Singles winner? Never?
Probably not, I'd say no. Somewhere down the track we
may well have another Gulf Major when not War two,
because the sport again is reasonably accessible but popular in

(01:13:11):
New Zealand as well.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Well said nice to see you guys. You have a
good week. We'll catch up next Monday. Andrew Sevil Jason
Pine eight twenty two.

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back from holiday. The primary vote to greet him in
the Australian poll this morning has Labor dropping three points,

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one Nation up one and two points up to the Coalition,
so that'll be encouraging for the Coalition. Miss Hanson who's
been wandering around Europe on holiday, much to the chagrin
of Barnaby Joyce, her fellow traveler, and has been in
the pool with Gina ryan Hart, the pictures of which
are available on the net if you wish to partake,
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Spotline last night and she was talking about how we
once again need to be a monoicultural country and how
it's been swamped by Asians and how Tommy Robinson's have
welcome anytime she's Prime Minister and so it goes. So anyway,
Steve Price with more on this after the News, which
is next.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Be well, it looks like he's done it. Odyssey, which
opened Thursdays one twenty four point five million over the
weekend in America. That's domestically one twenty four point five million,
globally to sixty four point one. Imax played a big part.
They pulled in thirty million because it's one of those
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Speaker 14 (01:16:22):
We'll go.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
I've found back from holiday stee price welcome home only.
Just do you have a good time?

Speaker 21 (01:16:29):
Japan is a wonderful country. You can can't not have
a great time there. It's clean, cheap, people are friendly,
You're never going to get robbed.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
What more could you ask for this time of year?
What's the weather?

Speaker 21 (01:16:42):
Hot and humid in Tokyo through the south to go,
got even more humid up north where I was twenty
eight degrees sunny every.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Day and you're playing golf.

Speaker 21 (01:16:51):
Golf every day. I've played eleven games in two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
And you're playing a lot still to play on a
Japanese golf course.

Speaker 21 (01:17:00):
Not as much as you would play in New Zealand
or Australia. Last round the golf I played up there
because some sixty dollars, which is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Very cheap, you kidding me? And they're all good courses.

Speaker 21 (01:17:09):
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Good on you.

Speaker 21 (01:17:11):
Well, I'm glad to got as brilliant as Ryan Fox.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
I mean, come on, I hope you get to see
a bit of it because we because I'm up early,
obviously I was watching it was live. But the way
he held himself together and the way he came back
and got the sixty two over the weekend to put
him in contention, we are just like fizzing this.

Speaker 21 (01:17:29):
Morning twelve foot Birdie part I'm off eighteen cold to win.
I mean, that's one of the great stories of sport
for the year breaks a sixty three year who do
And of course the Fox name. You can't get a
more famous sporting name in New Zealand probably than that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
He couldn't agree more. Pauline's also been on holiday, not
that you would call it a holiday, but I saw
her and the paul were Geena Ryan Hart and that
was quite the side anyway. Apart from that, you won't
have seen the Spotlight program last night, but I hope
I assume you got the takeaways from it.

Speaker 21 (01:18:00):
She has been trailed around by Liam Bartlett, the Spotlight reporter,
for a month. She's given them through her Chief of
Staff James ask to be extraordinary access and look, people
can criticize her comments about immigration all they like, but
that's a position that she has held since she entered parliament.
And mean, she started her maiden speech talking about Australia

(01:18:22):
if we were not careful, this is her words, not mine,
would be overrun by Asian migrants. Now she's not changed
that position. So you can wring your hands all you
like about what she talks about with Tommy Robertson and
what she talks about the white Australian policy and all
of the above, it's not affecting her popularity at all.
There's two poles out today, one in the nine Papers

(01:18:43):
a result poll and one in the one that we
talk about more often, the News poll in the Australian,
and it's got Labour's primary voter. That's the lowest level
since twenty twenty two. The election down to thirty one.
Nation is equal with the Labor Party on thirty and
the dear old Liberal Coalition Liberal National Coalition they're down

(01:19:03):
at seventeen. You know, sorry, it's up at nineteen from seventeen.
But those figures are a disaster. So all the mainstream
media criticism of Pauline and how she shouldn't have been
at the Dulci in Gabana show in Sicily and in
the Pool Regina. The public don't care because the sick
and tie mainstream politician.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Yeah, exactly, I saw a poll out, but it would
have been while you're away. She's right up there in
Victoria two, good old liberal Victoria. She's like, if not leading,
she's tied for first.

Speaker 21 (01:19:35):
Their only problem there is she still doesn't have anybody
to lead the party in Victoria. They've not announced any
of the candidates and we're now not that far away
from the end of November twenty eight, November election, So
it's the back room organization that's going to come back to.

Speaker 7 (01:19:50):
Haunt them a little bit overheat exactly, and we.

Speaker 21 (01:19:53):
Will have to wait and see if Victoria is going
to be a great test is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
The I'm to be frank, I will be paying scent
regard to the Commonwealth Games because it's not what it was,
not that it was ever anything great in the first place,
but given you've paid for it to be in Scotland,
will you be taking extra interest?

Speaker 21 (01:20:12):
No, I don't think I think like you. No one
really cares. Now you might say, well that's probably a
good reason why Daniel Andrews to form a premier canceled it.
But in canceling it we have contributed one hundred and
ninety four million dollars. And remember Victoria is a broken
state with huge debt to stage to Glasgow Conwawth Games,
because that was the penalty that we needed to pay

(01:20:35):
after Daniel Andrews pulled the pin after using the Commath
Games in my view, as a stunt to win seats
in regional Victoria. And apparently Glasgow is in all sorts
of trouble that transport's not working and no one there
really cares whether it's on or not. I mean, Australia
is the biggest fan of the Conmworth Games for one reason.
We're the strongest sporting nation. I mean, with all due

(01:20:57):
regard to New Zealand. When you get into the swimming pool,
well we just win every medal and so Australians go,
oh yeah, the comment's goings are great, I don't think,
And it would be very interesting to see the TV ratings.
Did anybody really care?

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
No, it's a very limit it's a limited watch. Dann
always bit careful with people like you. And were you
Darren Hinch's mate or did you hate him on he
hate you? And the latter.

Speaker 21 (01:21:23):
He tried, well, he did sue me at once for defamation.
He said some dreadful things on the day of the
funeral of a great made of mine, cricketer David Hooks,
who was hit with a sucker punch and died in
the street in Melbourne. And so I gave Hint a
touch up and he tried. He sued me, and years
later I found out that we're working at the same

(01:21:44):
company at the time found out that a secret payment
had been made to him without me being told, which
I wasn't very keen about. But look, I just raise
it because I think we give away state funerals, which
is happening today at midday in Port Melbourne some joint
called the timber Yard. Because Hinch is always he's not
someone who is religious. Well give him away too cheaply.

(01:22:05):
I mean, he was a key we who spent much
of his media career based in Sydney, New York overseas. Yes,
he was very popular on radio in Melbourne, but I mean,
you're setting yourself a low bar. In my view, I mean,
if every popular media personality is going to be given
a state funeral, you're going to have a lot of

(01:22:26):
state funerals. I just am a bit cynical about the
fact that this was announced in the lead up to
a state election at the end of the year, knowing
that all people who love Darren Hinch are now are
going to go labor government.

Speaker 10 (01:22:38):
They're not so bad after all.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
I got to say, though he died was a week
ago as Friday, wasn't I remember it distinctly, just a
smage over a week you guys, I was saying, because
I mean, it's not the way it used to be.
I mean, I know this makes it sound like a
couple of old farts, but with Laws gone, Jones is
going to wind unfortunately very sadly, and Hinch now gone.
And i'd include you in there, but I mean the

(01:23:01):
greats are going, I'm afraid, aren't they.

Speaker 21 (01:23:04):
No, we've still got the great mic Costking.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Pe. You've clearly been on holiday and come back in
a good mood anyway. Good to see it was see Wednesday.
Appreciate it very much. Steep price out of Australia. The
other thing, by the way, speaking of that, aforementioned election.
Ja cinder Ellen. I watched her over the weekend. It
was Friday. In fact, remember the CFME EU, the union,

(01:23:27):
the corrupt union. It's called the Big Build and it's
in exclusive to Victoria, the Big Build. But I mean
the cf ME EU as a corrupt organization, the lecngth
and breadth of Australia. Anyway, the allegation on Friday was
despite the fact they went in there and sacked anybody, everybody,
it's just still as crooked as it ever would be,

(01:23:47):
and she didn't want to have anything to do with it.
Any question regarding union figures or people associated with the
union should be put to the federal government'sppointed administrator, who's
responsible for the operation of the union. In fact, all
this was taking place in her backyard didn't seem to
bother her, which is why she will be losing the
election come November a forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
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Speaker 21 (01:24:11):
At b.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Twelve minutes away from nine. I can tell you it's
still nil all in the football. But what's important about
it is that Spain have had four shots on target
after seventy minutes, Argentina have not literally kicked the ball
towards the goal once at all. It seems pointless to me.
By the way, olive oil is back, which is very
encouraging us just thinking about it over the weekend. We

(01:24:34):
don't buy Spanish olive oil. We buy local olive oil
from down the road, made by good people who keep
winning medals every year. But be that as it may,
the rain seems to have come right, Spain seems to
be seeing the upcoming harvest is going to be fantastic,
and all is well with the world. The other thing
I should tell you is tomorrow will we spend time.

(01:24:54):
Ryan Fox, by the way, still doesn't come back, so
he's doing his international obligation. He's talking to sponsors, et cetera,
et cetera. We have, excuse me, Marcus Wheelhouse's coach as
in the bar, and he was one and a half
champagnes deep when we had him on at ten past seven,
So Lord knows how many champagnes deep he is by now,
because he's still waiting for Ryan to return from his

(01:25:15):
sponsorship commitments to join him in the bar to celebrate
his great victory. As so, what I'm telling is the
chance of us getting Ryan Fox between now and nine
o'clock is about zero. But as luck would have it,
we had him booked in for the show tomorrow anyway,
So I suppose that semi solves itself. But also tomorrow
part of the Folks is going to be Boonham, who

(01:25:36):
overnight is going to become the British Prime Minister. He
became the Labour Party leader over the weekend. He's going
to announce. I don't know if he's going to do
it a day one. I assume he's going to go
forth the way means to go on a cabinet reshuffle.
It looks like Rachel Reeves maybe for the high Jump
and Ed Middler band. This is all going left. Watch
this space, it's all going left, which is fine. Poll

(01:25:57):
out over the weekend twenty four to twenty four and
twenty one, so what does that mean Reform on twenty four,
Labour on twenty four, Conservatives on twenty one. So there's
a little bit of a bounce there for the Labour
Party with the arrival of Andy Burnham. And here's the
other interesting thing, given what was announced over the weekend
from Winston Peters and that was the business of spending
a billion dollars going and looking for oil and gas,
all of which is fine. But of course who was

(01:26:18):
out there yesterday pooh pooing it all Christopher Hipkins. Christopher
Hipkins doesn't like oil, doesn't like gas, and wants to
ban it. And yet what's one of the first things
that Andy Burnham's going to do as a very left
leaning British prime Minister? And the answer is open up
the North Sea for oil and gas. So how is
it one left leaner can see it and the other
one can't. Nine Away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
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Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
No note ironically, and we'll talk about it with Catherine
tomorrow on the program when she joins US from France.
The EU over the weekend of unveiled proposals that would
slow cuts to business greenhouse gas emission limits, so the
whole world, so some industries could obtain emission allowances until
twenty thirty eight instead of twenty thirty four. This is

(01:27:06):
the commission that develops legislation for the EU's twenty seven
member state. So they're pulling back. They're pulling back on
the evs. They're pulling back on the emissions. The left
leaning Andy Burnham's opening up the North Sea for oil
and gas. I mean, you know read the room, folks.
Six away from.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Assentials, Australian Times, six away from nine here in New
Zealand now the World Cup halftime show. It was almost seamless,
wasn't it. This was designed I didn't realize this. It
was designed by Chris Martin. Started with Madonna's not Maradona.

(01:27:53):
Then she came out by the way with Ronaldo and
Ronald Dino, and then the Muppets. They were with the

(01:28:18):
They're all there, including Floyd. They were with the New
York Philharmonic Orchestra. And once they were done, we got
the bat Yes Sight Chips and boy bands. That's career
for twenty twenty six Styles Chips and boy bands, Ted
Lasso and Coach Beard in full kit introduced Justin Bieber.

Speaker 10 (01:28:42):
All right, young man, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
It's a big shot. Okay, I listen to me.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Well out there they'll be nervous.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
Wellby's white, all right, make us proud.

Speaker 22 (01:28:52):
Stick A does acoustic work in a big.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
Stadium, I don't think it works in a big stadium
in a football Finally, anyway, Shakira and Burner Boy were.

Speaker 7 (01:29:07):
Next Eagle.

Speaker 18 (01:29:13):
Eagle l.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Yeah, this fit's a football stadium, but it doesn't it anyway,
finished with Chris Martin and a choir. The choir included
Miss Piggy and Kenney. It's had a pretty good half
time showing. As I said at mill All as we

(01:29:40):
approached the eight years a minute with Argentina having kicked
exactly no balls towards the gold at all, and almost
inevitably I'm assuming heading towards overtime if not Pendley shutouts.
But of course our day we'll be remembered forever for this.

Speaker 20 (01:29:55):
Taking no time at all.

Speaker 10 (01:29:56):
It's what you dream off a part to win the Open.

Speaker 12 (01:30:01):
He has it, Ryan Fox Champion Dollper of the Year.
He celebrates as far Away New Zealand celebrates.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
With one that is the truth. And it is just
coming up ten o'clock at night on a warm summer's
evening in the northwest of England, forty five minutes drive
north of Liverpool. If you want to know where the
gold calls do Anyway, we'll look forward to his company
on the program tomorrow and we will look forward to
your company as well. From six as always, Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
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