Full Show Podcast: 21 April 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, you welcome today are in flashing rates, some help
for rural schools and the fuel clasts to speaking which
he in New Zealand's boss back in with price increases
and canceled roots. Of course, the IOD cracked down on cryptos.
Carl Lubin as he lines up for the final season
of The Boys, Katherinefield and France Rod Little Ponies up
from the UK the Pasky the day seven past six.
You'll be aware, of course of the Far North Council

(00:33):
and their unelected Maray voting plan. It is of course
a scandal, but more importantly it is part of the
overall demarification of the economy. This current government, in one
form or another, promised to address the fact this stuff
is still going on. I would have thought proves their failing.
Todd Stevenson from Act the other day wrote to the
Public Services Minister due to Collins asking about Marie Names
and government department. She said there was a war on

(00:56):
and we had better things to do. Is that a
fair point or is it a convenient excuse? Simple truth
is what they promised and what has happened are two
different things. Interact, who are now promising to ban far
North type behavior?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Is that a double promise? Didn't you already say you
would do that? So here's the problem with it. One,
Act aren't running the government, They're merely part of it.
Unless they make it a bottom line, which they won't,
it may or may not see the light of day
after the election. Two, given their well promoted stance on
race based policy, going into another election having had the
opportunity to fix it already, you've got a credibility problem,

(01:29):
don't you. In Three, my sense of this as a
broad based issue is it isn't what it once might
have been. I mean, personally, I find morification problematic. To
give someone rules or money or decisions or names or
jobs based on race is simply irrefutably wrong. But the
fervor with which that was argued a couple of years
ago doesn't appear to be quite as white hot. I mean, yes,

(01:49):
there's a very vocal group who seem to have made it.
There was on debt, but there's small. Many of them
are rabbit, which makes the appeal of the overall argument
to the broader populace less enticing. Might also argue that
against this wall of determination was an even bigger wall
of determination, i e. Those who believe in it, think
it's good, who have held the line and carried on.
And can I suggest that at this point in the

(02:12):
Far North Council League gold Star example, it is they
who are the more successful of the two camps.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
News of the World in ninety second, Yes.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
The rules of a new Week Monday in London, and
poor old Key has got a couple of people wanting
a word.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
He chose to ask no questions about the vetting process.
He asked no questions about Mandalson's relationship with Epstein. It
doesn't appear that he asked any questions at all. Why
because he didn't want to know.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
You wanted a bit of that.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
We needed a government to honesty, integrity and accountability. So
will the Prime Minister final accept for the only way
he can help to deliver that is to resign?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Even Diane Abbott, who was labor adjacent Gibbons, she's currently
suspended head to pilot.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Can you repeople don't really care about process and procedure.
They want transparency and they want to know that they
could have confidence in the words of elected politicians.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
The man himself, his nip has sounded more in charge, but.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
Were repeated at times when I should have been told.
I should have been told on appointment. I should have
been told when Peter Manison was sacked the Cabinet Sectuary,
should have been told when he reviewed the process.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well do to epic fury did line on the ceasefire
expires Thursday. Iran still playing games about round two of
the talks.

Speaker 7 (03:41):
We witnessed that United States insisted on bad faith and
violation of the ceasefire. All of this is evidence that
the United States apparently does not show seriousness in the
diplomatic process.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
By the way, if Trump he owes you money from
the Liberation Day tariffs, the chicks are starting to be written.
Not easy though.

Speaker 8 (03:58):
This is a big bill that taxpayers ultimately will be
on the hook for it. What needs to happen is
that you need to apply for a tariff rebid. But
did you pay the tariff on what was illegally charged
or were there legal tariffs?

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, a lot of questions finally Trump related matters. Actually,
the FBI head Cash Betel's lawyered up. He's filed the
two hundred and fifty million dollar lawsuit against the Atlantic.
They claim he's an excessive drinker and there's multiple un
explained absences from his job and security of a bit
of trouble waking him up at times. He says they're lying.
They stand behind at lawyers at Dawn News the world
in ninety Desmond Morris, you remember the name, zoologist, author, artists,

(04:34):
television presenter. He's died overnight at the age of ninety eight.
Wrote The Naked Eight back in the sixties, basically told
us that we humans were fundamentally still ape like after
all these years. Surrealist painter as well lived a lifetime
of exploration, curiosity and creativity, according to his son. But
at ninety eight, that's a life. While the twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
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Speaker 2 (05:05):
Now the French might be a bit myth. This morning
they raided Elon's offices in Paris. The other day their
prosecutor cyber crime unit. They wanted a word about criminal
offenses content on the platform, grac all that stuff, and
they said, would you mind coming in Elon. Well he
hasn't turned up, So more from Catherine shortly fifteen past

(05:26):
has Andrew Teller had Good morning?

Speaker 9 (05:27):
Yeah, morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Have they cleaned the tanks out yet at Channel? Well
they are, they are.

Speaker 9 (05:32):
We're into week eight.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Of the conflict now, Mike. Still no real.

Speaker 10 (05:36):
Clarity over when the Middle East conflict might be resolved.
Could be tomorrow, it could be another two weeks. And understandably,
at the moment this is creating a whole lot of
negative outcomes. But yesterday you're seeing a rest silver lining
for a company. And this is, as you point out,
Channel Infrastructure now, Channel I suspect eight weeks ago. No,
and actually a lot of people didn't know who Channel
Infrastructure were. They've come into the spotlight because of this

(05:58):
interest now that we've got our fuel supply and our
fuel resilience. Channel is the old New Zealand Refining Limited.
That's a company that used to refine crude oil up
in Northland. These days they run that as a fuel
import terminal. They've also got the whole Marson Point energy precinct.
They've got some interest in Australia as well. Now we
know that they were planning on offering more diesel storage capacity.

(06:20):
Yesterday we've got details of that what had been a
previously announced contract to provide what is pretty significant diesel
storage to the government a fairly short term basis, and this.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Obviously response to the crisis.

Speaker 10 (06:33):
So they're going to provide ninety three million liters of
storage capacity. That equates to nine additional days of New
Zealand diesel demand. Fun fact, that's equivalent to thirty seven
Olympic swimming pools worth of diesel and for that they
will get one point two million dollars a month. So yes,
they're repurposing existing tank so they must have had a

(06:53):
heck of a lot of empty tanks. Had a lot
of empty tanks. They should have them ready by the
end of May. That's storage has been contracted to the
end of twenty twenty seven, so you now expect the
government to go out and try and secure a supply
to fill those tanks up and it gives another layer
to an additional layer to our fuel security. We did

(07:14):
get the latest update from MBS on fuel supply. It
still to me still looks adequate. The ships on the
way with fuel on board. After twenty twenty seven, the
government may look at increasing those minimum stockholding requirement that
the fuel companies have to hold. And I would expect
that we will end up paying for that because it
will cost them to hold it. Channel obviously get more

(07:37):
revenue for this, but they what was interesting yesterday, might
they haven't moved their earnings guidance. So whereas we know
they're getting some more money for this, we can only
speculate as to their thinking around you know, demand higher prices,
Perhaps there won't be as much going through their facility
over time.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Okay, interesting how the market handling it all given they
have opened internationally?

Speaker 10 (07:58):
Yeah, right, so another we we kend of on again,
off again, true ceasefire, on again, off again, straight opening.
My understanding and we always do this check on a morning, Mike.
My understanding is that right now the straight ofp Hoe
was is not open. Of course, it could be open tomorrow.
So we're in a position where there's always the potential
for the situation. We resolved timing, however, on this thing

(08:19):
just remains elusive, doesn't it. Oil price this morning, look
bent crew is it's over ninety five bucks. So it
doesn't indicate that the oil market believes a resolution is imminent.
If I look at the forward pricing, so futures contracts,
they're still over eighty bucks right out to the end
of the year, so right out to December, so you
know they are believing that these higher prices will linger.

(08:43):
I would note, though, Mike, we've talked about this thing
called data date, the stiffical dated brint that's the physical delivery.
So if we actually wanted to go and buy, you know,
ten thousand barrels of actual oil on the seventh of April,
that peaked at over one hundred and forty four US
dollars a barrel. It has steadily been falling and actually
on Friday it was under ninety nine ninety eight dollars

(09:05):
ninety four cents. Look yesterday it was the price is
set once a day. It did head higher again to
one hundred and six, but there's certainly nowhere near as
much stress and that market as there was Asian share
markets yesterday pretty weak follow through from that Friday rally,
but overnight the European and the US market's mildly weaker.
I would draw listeners' attention to local interest rates. They

(09:29):
have come back reasonably materially from the highs that they
spiked to in March. I was getting quite worried because
the local industry were pushing quite a lot higher. If
I looked yesterday the five year swap, that's the benchmark rates,
which peaked at for four point two percent, yesterday close
at three point eight three. So look, they're quite a
bit higher than they were at the start of the conflict.

Speaker 11 (09:49):
But they're coming back.

Speaker 10 (09:50):
And the currency market's been pretty volatile, been all over
the show. I'm looking at the trade weighted index, it
has recovered. If we look at against all currencies specifically,
still very weak against the Ossie dollar.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, I was going to say it was eighty one yesterday,
and that's a mnemic anyway. What are the numbers?

Speaker 10 (10:06):
So the Dow Jones is down, well, it's down small. Actually,
it's down about thirty points, so it's point zero six percent,
is at forty nine thousand, four hundred and eighteen. The
S and P five hundred is down twenty five points,
that's point three five percent seven thy one hundred, and
the Nasdaq is down point three four percent. They're only
small falls. Eighty four points twenty four thousand, three hundred

(10:27):
and eighty three, the first one hundred overnight loss just
over half percent ten thousand, six hundred and nine the
Nicke this is obviously during the day training. Yesterday up
point six percent fifty eight thousand, eight hundred and twenty five.
The Shanghai Comfort was up three quarters of percent four
oh eight two and very quiet. In the Australasian markets,
the A sector as X up six points eight nine

(10:49):
five to three, the nz at X fifty up ten
points twelve thy nine hundred and fifteen. KIWI dollar point
five eight eight nine against the US small recovery against
the odds point eight two nine point four nine nine
seven against the Euro point four to three, five one
pounds ninety three point four to seven. Japanese y had
gold four thousand, eight hundred and seven US dollars, and

(11:12):
as I said, Brent crude just a touch over ninety
five dollars ninety five dollars and forty cents as mate.

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Speaker 2 (12:05):
Be Mike Morning. Very informative briefing from Andrew on channel, fuel, storage,
supply and support. Much appreciated. Lart. It's all we do.
It's the only reason we're here in the morning. Put
a smile on your face. Bulgaria, which I was telling
you about yesterday, looked like the former president Radiv was winning.
He is winning. They're still counting. As far as I
can work out anyway, six parties could pass the four

(12:27):
percent threshold. Four percent get weirdos in at four percent,
You get weirdos in at five percent. Look at the
New Zealand Parliament. But anyway you make it down four percent.
He's got six parties coming through. It'll be Bulgaria's eighth
election of five years, so they are a problem anyway.
He's left leaning, but he's a communist, he's pro Russia.
So it's all interesting and what's going on, especially given

(12:48):
last week in Hungary. But the point being he will win,
but he may be in a minority government because no
one else wants to work with them, So it's the
Dutch all over again. It's winnings one but some finding
someone to coaliest with might well be a problem. So
we'll follow that for a great deal. Elementary six to twenty.

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we've got some insurance problems, a lot of storms, a

(14:49):
lot of insurance, so you know what that's doing to
your premium don't you. So we'll look to the insurance
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(15:29):
meantime back here, what do you reckon's happening to our
insurance given the weather, Well, we've had forty six forty
six weather events between autumn last year and summer of
this year, thirty three one hundred and seventy two claims
up two hundred and fifty six percent, which if you
quickly did the mats is a storm every eight days.
Bryce Davies says the ami state and ends atis climate

(15:50):
spokesperson as with us morning, good monk.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I suppose being a climate spokesperson for a bunch of
insurance companies, You've never been busier. This is your time
time to shine.

Speaker 12 (16:00):
At a very busy time. We're seeing so much, so
many storms of late that yes, there's lots to focus on.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Thirty three one hundred and seventy two claims. What I'm
more interested in, though, is the actual dollars are you
paying out of fortune?

Speaker 12 (16:15):
Yeah? We you know, with the claims obviously comes a cost,
and we plan for that cost. But yeah, it's it's
it's increasing.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, what I'm trying to find out though. It's all
very well to say, look, the's thirty three thousand claims,
but if they're all for pot plants that fell off
the wall, that's not the same as having your house blooded.
So are you materially paying out a fortune? And all
of this is going to come back to my letterbox
when my premium goes up.

Speaker 12 (16:41):
Well, Mike, your premium, if you're a typical homeowner, your
premium about six percent of your premium is going to
be related to natural hazards and that shows up as
claims cost that shows up as reinsurance costs and taxes
and levies in terms of the NHI premium. So as
we see more of these storms come through, we see
more damage and it's typically you know, when they manage it,

(17:02):
it is fluting. Then if you don't actually address that
level of risk, it's going to have an impact on
your premiums.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Absolutely, what's happening with you with reinsurance? Are they looking
at New Zealand a ghast at the moment or not?

Speaker 12 (17:16):
Well after this storms in twenty twenty three, they took
another look at New Zealand. They weren't really expecting us
to have as large as storms as we did with
Gabrielle and Auckland flooding. So that adjustment's taking place. I
mean internationally, you know what they call secondary perils, which
simply means you know, floods and storms to you and me.

(17:37):
So they had a look at that, they noticed that
that was changing, and they've reflected that and what we
pay and the amount of insurance we get. So that's
all we come up.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
And is that an ongoing process. I mean, like Wellington yesterday,
I mean, what a freak storm that was. I mean
Wellington doesn't get that weather, but now seemingly it does.

Speaker 13 (17:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (17:53):
Yeah, shocking, shocking with it down there. It's a constant
thing that, just like we do every year, we have
to think about the risks that we face and we
factor that into the premiums we ask our customers to pay.
It's the same with reinsurance. So looking around the world,
they're seeing what's going on and they all simply reflect
that in their pricing.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
How specific is the coverage getting these days? How much
are you drilling into very detailed areas and going your
trouble versus one hundred meters down the road you're not.

Speaker 12 (18:24):
Yeah, that's a continuous process. So I think we've said four, Yes,
we're moving to a more risk based view of these
sorts of perils. It depends on the type of you're
talking about. If you're talking about a windstorm or heavy rain, well,
that can happen anywhere, right, so that's difficult to kind
of pin that down to an individual property. But if

(18:44):
you're talking about something like flooding, which obviously can come
from that, then yeah, we can be really quite specific
about that. And then there's new perials that are becoming
a bit more important to us, you know, like Landslip
and things like that. And again they can happen a
wholevariety of places, and that's something that we'll know, you'll
see Ensures focus on more and more of the coming years.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
How crunchy is the whole discussion, and by that I
mean you guys exiting or you guys pricing people out
of the market versus the government potentially getting involved, and
we're ending up like America with a large number of
people simply not able to afford insurance.

Speaker 9 (19:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (19:18):
Look, I've been in this game for a while, so
I've noticed that conversation increasing year on year on year,
you know, from from our perspective from Ami State ins
that I you know, we're here to ensure people. So
we're not making any of those kind of blanket decisions
about playing out. We want to be here. We want
to ensure people. That's our business, and so we're focused
on making sure that we can do that.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
All right, brus appreciate it. Bryce Davies out of AMI
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avoided your question on dollars. Yeah, I noted that. But
he also represented three companies, which is the other part

(21:17):
I didn't have time for. When you're representing three companies,
you've got to ask the question are there enough companies
in the country providing insurance? In other words, have the
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Speaker 2 (21:34):
But it's an ongoing conversation and one that might be
told this morning. Now, Catherine, how are you?

Speaker 14 (21:39):
I'm wonderful it's all go here.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Well, it is all go, isn't it. Listen, let me
just crack on with Elon. First of all, the prosecutors
offers wanted a word, They invited him and he didn't show.
Where does this go? Is this a major?

Speaker 14 (21:51):
This is part of what could only be described as
something that's happening in Europe wide. They're trying to impose
restrictions on, pose some sort of responsibility onto Elon Musk
for what appears not just on his social on his websites,
your ex and also through his chatbot, any of his

(22:12):
social media platforms, and they are saying, now has to
start being responsible the sort of crimes that they're looking
at charging him with. Now, let's not forget at the moment,
he's just been summoned for a voluntary interview. What they're
looking at is allegations that X has interfered in French politics,
has disseminated political disinformation, has also misused personal data, and

(22:35):
that includes fraudulent data extraction. They're also saying that the
chatbot has been putting out Holocaust denial statements and has
been using sexual deep fake images, so all fairly tough
statements that's been in these allegations been around a wild mic.
This investigation was launched back in twenty twenty five. Musk

(22:58):
didn't appear, didn't get an in touch. He had some
rather choice phrases to describe French authorities. Just last week
and the US Justice Department has said they will not
assist the French investigation because they say that his politically
motivated charges.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Right, talk to me about the presidential election. Quick question
based on some ignorance. First, what Macron a big deal politically?
Before he became president? Was he a household name or
has he become a household name?

Speaker 14 (23:28):
No, No one knew who was He was very much
in the background. He was working at the Finance Department,
the Finance ministry. Before that, he was working for a
big commercial investment bank as well. He wasn't a household name.
He saw the moment when then President Franzolon was very weak.

(23:49):
He saw that the far right and the center right
were weak, there was no one candidate, and he just
sort of swooped in that. So it was very astute politically.
But yeah, we're one year away from voters going to
the polls to select a successor to Macron. Just over
the weekend, we saw the center right, the traditional conservatives
that used to always have it seemed the French presidency

(24:13):
they had a sort of a primary to decide what
to do about their candidate as so they had a
primary to decide how the primary would go. But all
the members of the party decided that the current president
of the party would be their candidate for the elections,
which caused a lot of other center right figures who
you may know, to say, well, we're not having any

(24:34):
part of this.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Well, one of those Lapen. How does the Lipen thing
play out potentially? Yeah, well, the Penn.

Speaker 14 (24:41):
Of course, she's still waiting to hear whether her conviction
for corruption is going to be upheld, whether or not
she'd be able to run next year. If she doesn't,
of course, then there's Jordan Badella, who just in the
last couple of hours has been running around talking at
the Confederation of Business Industries, trying to look all business friendly,
engaging with business leaders. He does seem to be the

(25:04):
front runner, but of course the other front runner, even
though it's year away, is Edward Philippe, who is center right.
But you know, it's such a game mite because if
you get too much prominency, now you could be just
damaged goods by the time you get to the to
the election.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
He reckon, you go in right or left? I'm just
so you know, I'm asking the Bulgaria Hungary question. You're
going right or left?

Speaker 9 (25:26):
You reckon.

Speaker 14 (25:29):
France traditionally goes right. How far right I don't know.
But with so many candidates, you know, Mike, you're going
to end up with two going into the runoff of
the second round, both of them having sort of maybe
fifteen percent of the votes cast, which is very weak candidates.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Interesting home, All right, nice to talk to you. Catherine
Field out of France this morning, ten to seven already.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
So Mike Costing breakfast with a Vida Retirement Communities News
togs head.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
B to answer this question, can someone please explain in
simple language the FTA with India and y labor have
got so many problems with it. Well to answer your
question really simply, they are required numbers wise because New
Zealand first is xenophobes and they don't want anything to
do with it. So national who are driving this need
the numbers in the house. Nothing wrong with labor at
that point, going well, if you need our support, let's
have a look at what we're dealing with here, and

(26:16):
we'll have a meeting and think about it, which they've done.
They've then written a couple of letters to Trade Minister
and the Prime Minister, etc. At the start, I was
open minded about it. Now I'm convinced they're playing games.
So their major problems or exploitation of people in the workplace,
which to my mind doesn't necessarily or automatically have anything
to do with an FTA. But they're saying there'll be

(26:37):
Indians who come to the country and they'll be exploited.
Now that may or may not be true, but we
have mechanisms in this place, in this country in place
to take care of that. So, you know, small red flag,
but let's not get hung up on it. Their big
thing seems to be investment in the agreement. Is the requirement?
Now that's the interesting word. Is it a requirement or

(26:57):
is it an aspiration to put many billions of dollars
into India. Now I don't see that as a problem
because many billions of dollars will be put into India
the same way many billions of dollars will be put
into New Zealand. That's why it's called a free trade agreement.
So don't panic. Stop getting your knickers in a twist.
Stop finding problems for the sake of finding problems. That's

(27:17):
where they're in trouble. So we'll sign it and then
we'll bring it to the Parliament and it's at that
point it's a game of who blinks first. Now, is
Labor in an election year in a free trade country,
going to seriously block a major free trade deal. No
they are not. So that's how that thing's going to
play out. So the other so do answer your question?

(27:38):
Really is simple terms. That's all they've got to moan about,
and they're playing dumb games. Five away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
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Speaker 2 (27:51):
Had a call from Mickey this morning. You wanted to
give me an update on Disney. So Disney World, which
is not Disneyland, but Disney World, have got some new
ticket prices to tell you about. Through until October next year.
Top price for peak day is now going to be
three seventy two. This is New Zealand Monday, three hundred
and seventy two dollars a day, which is a record
high for Disney World by the way up from three
to fifty five, likely to be a record only for

(28:12):
a short time. They haven't yet released the pricing for
November December, which are the hot months. If you want
to go off peak, you can still get a ticket
for a couple of hundred that hasn't gone up. Varies
from park to park, but the three seventy two will
go into most of their parks come next year. And
that's before you get to the skip the Line passes,
which you've got to have, because if you don't have
skip the line passes, you're not skipping the line. And

(28:34):
believe me, the lines are like a mial long. So
if you want to skip the line, pass eight forty eight,
eight hundred and forty eight dollars per day. Now, disney Land,
as an Anaheim, hasn't released their ticket prices for next year,
but they've already got peak tickets at three eighty because
they had a hot ticket in California. I AA mind you.

(28:54):
Having said that and having been to Disneyland three eighty
even at three eighty, three seventy whatever, you know, there's
a lot to be done at Disneyland and Disney World.
So I think that's actually, comparatively speaking, value for money.
If you break it down into money for movies, I
think bang for But Disneyland is better value than your
average movie. If you spent the same money going to

(29:17):
different movies, you'd get less joy out of the movies
than you would a day at Disneyland, is my thinking
on it, because yeah, well you know, by the time
you buy the popcorn and the drinks and all that
sort of stuff is one of them. You know what
I'm saying, It's very expensive to go to the movies,
whereas Disneyland strikes me as relatively. We're getting inflation numbers today,
By the way, what are they? More importantly does it matter? Credible? Compelling?

Speaker 1 (29:41):
The breakfast show you can't miss. It's the Mic Hosking
Breakfast with Ranger of a Sport sv the Ultimate Performance,
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Speaker 2 (29:50):
V seven past seven, CPI today Q one Consumer Price Index.
Of course, inflation for Jan Fab and March good news
mostly down or most likely down. It was three point one.
It's also pre war and now Mike Jones is the
benzi's chief economists back. Whether's Mike morning to you, good morning.
What do you got zero point eight?

Speaker 15 (30:07):
Yeah, we've got three percent on the annual figure, so
slight down from last quarter. But as you said, I
mean this is sort of dated to some degree, and
the big spike in inflation that we're expecting on the
back of fuel prices will come through in this quarter.
Q second, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
So what does today mean of anything? It's just we
remind ourselves of what once was until somebody started bombing around.

Speaker 15 (30:30):
Yeah, sort of references happier times, I suppose in the
economy and for inflation, I think that there will still
be some interest in today's numbers, particularly the core inflation measures.
I mean, they are coming from a position where they're
probably already a bit high, and so there'll be at
tension on what those do. If they ease off a bit,
I mean, that will provide I think the Reserve Bank

(30:51):
had a bit more rope to be able to look
through some of this shock, and if they don't, and
if they strengthen, well that will probably get those calling
for earlier rate increase is excited.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
You see, I know you correct me if I'm wrong.
You've got us peaking at four point one. Eventually you're
calling three cash rate rises. Maybe you're saying Where are
you sitting with that May July thing.

Speaker 15 (31:12):
Well, we're calling September for the first Yeah.

Speaker 12 (31:16):
Yeah, we are.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I've got here as July, September, October. If someone missed
reporting that, Oh.

Speaker 15 (31:21):
That sounds like another bank you know where at September.
And we've actually held that view since before this conflict
kicked off. So we're at September and we've got two
baked in for this year.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Right, So you're holding firm on that new confident with that,
I wouldn't.

Speaker 15 (31:36):
Say we're confident. It's more that we just haven't had
haven't had conviction to move it. We were there as
say prior. We're obviously assessing, like everyone, some of the
impacts from this thing, and for the meantime, we haven't
had sufficient conditions conviction to change it off of September.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Okay, have you got four point one? That was a
peak for inflation four point five on four point five now,
so the information I've got materially wrong. So you at
four point five. I was going to say you're conservative,
but you're not. No, you're with a lot of other people.
I mean, informatry has got your four point eight. But
at four and a half, how confident are you on that.

Speaker 15 (32:10):
Well, it's looking pretty likely it's above above four. I mean,
you know, there's still a bit of quite a bit
to go in the current quarter, and hence room for
fuel prices and the overall inflation pulse to move around
a bit. I mean, we add obviously changing those numbers
pretty regularly in response to our assumptions on picture and
diesel prices moving around. So that's our best guess at

(32:33):
the moment.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Call me naive, but I'm relatively bullish about this whole
war thing in context. Obviously, I don't think they're going
to start fighting, and I think a deal will be
done very shortly, and I think the strait will open
if that happens to play out. How long do you
think before it plays through to some form of normality.

Speaker 15 (32:55):
Well, it's a big question. I mean, I think it's
going to take some time. People have talked about to
restore supply chains around fuel and then what that means
of course for supply and ultimately picture prices in this country.
So now where we have made in terms of that

(33:16):
four and a half percent inflation projection, I mean that's
built on some pretty conservative assumptions. Actually, where picture prices
start falling quite rapidly and quite quickly. So arguably, I
mean that sort of scenario is kind of already built
into what a lot of us are forecasting. O.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Good stuff. Mike, appreciate it very much. Mike Jones Ben said,
Chief Economists coming up eleven minutes past seven. That's the
economy specifically. Economy adjacent is of course, our drug consumption,
and there's no real cost of living crissies here. Apparently
opioid detections are up thirty five percent. Cocaine we are
loving the cocaine eleven point four percent up and West Auckland,
good morning to you, up four hundred and fourteen percent

(33:52):
on the cocaine.

Speaker 7 (33:54):
Serious.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Glenn Dobson is the Drug Detection Agency CEO, and he's
with us, Glenn, morning to you. Yeah, where's four hundred
and fourteen percent come from? They've all token up out west,
are they? What's going on?

Speaker 13 (34:06):
It's crazy, isn't it? What we've definitely seen in this
reported some real variations on a localized regional perspective. Obviously
we've got some spikes and opio use cocaine is still
very popular, but certainly we've got some real variations regionally,
which is really interesting.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Do people swap just between drugs? You take drugs and
then you decide one day you're taking one and then another.
Is that how it works or not?

Speaker 12 (34:29):
Well?

Speaker 13 (34:30):
I think the behavioral characteristics stay fairly firmation to their
likes and the type of HW they get from the
drug and so on. The changes often come from the
supply side of things, and when there's a large supply
that changes that can affect demand and people's drug tape
taking patterns.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
From there, you do workplaces. Does what you see in
the workplace reflect what you may see in life generally?

Speaker 12 (34:56):
Absolutely definitely.

Speaker 13 (34:57):
Look look some of our that's will vary compared to
for instance, the wastewater stats in relation to some of
our metham venomine positives in this report is slightly lower
than previous times, but still quite high. So that's slightly
different from the wastewater. But certainly it is a reflection
of a subset of society. And anecdotically, we're definitely hearing

(35:18):
that there's a softening around attitudes around some drug taking.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
What is are we weird? Os? I mean all I
ever reader you read something like stuff or the Herald,
all you have see these days are stories about weather
warnings and how many drugs we take? Are we strange?

Speaker 13 (35:32):
Yeah, I don't know, fore're weirdos. We certainly enjoy our drugs,
but we look, we're following a global tree into a
certain extent. You hope you were used. Globally is up,
so we certainly throwing that trend. And from our perspective,
from ted Dda's perspective, it's around the rest that also
creates the workplace. We want people to get home safely
at the end of the day and that's the main
thing exactly.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
All right, nice to talk to you. As always, I
don't treat it lightly, but I find the whole thing pathetic.
I find it shocking, But I mean, what can you
do when out in west Auckland cocaine is up four
hundred and fourteen percent other than law. For those who
are asking, I'm not going to name them, they said,
what happens to the poor schmuck who gave you the
wrong information rey the interview? It was another website actually,

(36:15):
and I shan't name them this time. Question for you
though I know who the leakers in the National Party are.
Should I name them? Let me know thirteen past.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
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Speaker 2 (36:33):
That'd be oh, for God's sake, Okay, So what happened
was there, I was looking at the right thing, So
lucky I didn't name the website, ah, because I was
looking at the wrong bank, so he was so he
was right. I was wrong. I was looking at the
wrong bank website, right banker right, Hosking wrong? What a dickhead.
As far as texts go, yet to receive a single

(36:54):
one that says I shouldn't name these people. So I'm
in a moral dilemma now that many of those people
are listening, because I would have thought to test it
in pretty quickly. No, that don't name me. Seventeen past seven,
some more governments bought because of the petrol drama. Mileage
rates for relief teachers are going to go from thirty
seven to eighty three cents. That's okay. Rural schools with

(37:18):
under one hundred students will get a two and a
half thousand dollars top up thirty seven million going into
replacing diesel boilers. Andrew King, he's the president of the
New Zealand Rural Schools Leadership Association, and he's what there's
Andrew morning to you.

Speaker 16 (37:30):
Good morning, Mike, how are you very well?

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Thank you? You like the look of all of this.

Speaker 16 (37:34):
Yes, it's a really positive news targeted our most isolated
in smallest than rural schools here, which that's great welcome news.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Would you defend it in the sense these relief teachers,
which I know there are a tremendous number because teachers
away all the time. See, I have to still pay
to come to work, as does everybody else. Why is
a relief teacher special?

Speaker 16 (37:53):
Well, it's because a relief teacher can teach in the
school that they choose during the week, and that's really
important that we've got something in the system that supports
them to commute as far out. You know, some schools
could be one hundred up to one hundred kilometers away
that they might need to drive to in our most
isolated communities. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
And was nick Erica right yesterday when she was explaining
the small schools, the really small schools just have no budget.
They're tight has and you can't soak it up where
some of the biggest schools might be able to soak
it up. Is that fair?

Speaker 16 (38:25):
Well, Yes, I think we've got a system that's based
on numbers of students in terms of funding. In the
smaller you are, the less of an operations grant you have.
In the more maneuvering, the trickier, the maneuvering of budget
lines that you've got to do. So having that two
and a half thousand dollars means they don't need to
think about where they need to take money from elsewhere,

(38:46):
and they can focus that two and a half thousand
dollars on fuel shotage related costs or fuel increased costs.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Good. I don't know if it applies to you or
many of you in the rural part of the sector,
but this boiler thing, why why are schools running on
boilers for goodness sake?

Speaker 16 (39:00):
Well that's a really good question. So it's good to
see something really proactive and basically disestablishing the reliance on
diesel boilers.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
That's something that needed to be done years ago, though,
wasn't it Surely yes, it.

Speaker 16 (39:13):
Would have been great if it happened sooner, But it's
good that it's happening now.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Are you handling the school bus issue? Okay? In terms
of petrol and distance and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 16 (39:24):
Yeah, so we've got ministry run routes, plus we've got
direct resourcing routes and the increased costs. The ministry deals
with that with our direct resourcing bus routes though.

Speaker 15 (39:39):
That doesn't get reviewed.

Speaker 16 (39:40):
That gets reviewed six monthly in terms of the operational cost.
But we're working with the ministry on that.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Nice all right, Andrew, appreciate your time very much. Andrew King,
who is what bent was he from? He's the president
of the New Zealand Rural School Leaders Association. I don't
know when he's calling for the first cash rate rise
there now speaking of Erica as in Stanford, the Active
investa plus and very good work from Kate McNamara. Has
Kate mcdamura ever done any poor work? When they review
her at the end of the year at the Herald,

(40:06):
do they go, Kate that story you wrote in April
last year? Bit ordinary? Anyway, some more very good work
from her, This active investor plus where the money is going? So, yes,
it looks good. Yes, the Golden Visa is working. Yes
the money is flowing in, but where's it going? And
that is the story. And we'll come back to that shortly.
Seven twenty.

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Speaker 2 (40:35):
This will interest you. If you're a business leader, you'll
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working to protect your systems, asking seven twenty four. If
you want to listen and how to set up a
business properly, then Muana Pacific is probably not your guide.
I wandered through the whole sorry saga yes day. Once
again Kate McNamara's excellent work. She took us back once
again into how it all started and how most likely
even then, it was always going to end up the
way it has. Mark Mitchell, sports Minister, has said there

(42:02):
is no public money for professional sport, and he is right.
And yet before he ever arrived with his head screwed
on properly, we were run by people who held a
completely different view. Sport in New Zealand has owed money
they will never get it back given its loan and
payments have already been missed. The team and its business
case were doomed from the start. Ironically, I note the
same company that did the business case, De Luitte, also
got the job trying to sell the joint last year.

(42:23):
The figure they wanted five million dollars five million dollars
for a rugby Temu series imfat, piled and financially infat
right Ministry of Foreign Affairs, so political not really sporting.
Then you come to the various linked groups involved Moana
PACIFICA Limited, PACIFICA Medical Association, Mwana Pacific, a charitable trust,
as well as Pacific of Futures. The Medical Association claimed

(42:45):
they had plenty of money to run the thing. Why
are because of a contract Pacific of Futures. They had
the contract? Who was that contract? Farner Aura more public
money the bit of the contract the Pacific of Futures
could pay for the rugby. They claim they held the
contract for over ten years, thus You're alone was worth
forty four million dollars. The rugby team did the usual

(43:07):
stuff for money, like sponsorships, but none of it covered that.
Of course file has paid back what was owt and
obviously no one's paying five million dollars for a team that,
to be frank, isn't that good and didn't attract a crowd,
So what actually was it all about? The answers fairies
and unicorns. The young Pacific kid caes Ardi running around
the field and thinks, oh I can do that, So
I'm going to eat well, run hard and be a

(43:27):
star or something like that. The fact they could look
at any other team and see something very similar doesn't
seem to have been or have put a handbrake on
a very bad business idea from day one, And so
we the taxpayer will lose yet more money from yet
more folly. It's amazing, isn't it How good ideas look
when it isn't your money that you're stumping up with.
A might give us reasons why their names should not

(43:50):
be made public, bad question, Mike. It would be a
moral not to name them. Your sources confidential, and these
self serve MPs are doing real damage which is affecting
all of us. The election is one of the most
important in a generation, Tony. They always say that, They
say two things. This is seminal seminal election, This is

(44:12):
the election of a generation. So I'm in a dilemma
because I can name the name I think I will.
You know, Oh, you're not happy with it, Sam, Sam's
Now Sam's a journo. Now Sam's a journo, Juno. I've
got the weird thing about the sources. Now, the thing
about me is I don't have sources, you know, Like

(44:33):
I'm not a first of all, I'm not a journalist.
Second of all, I don't have sources. Somebody told me this,
and I know I know that they know.

Speaker 12 (44:39):
If they say just off the record.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
No, they didn't say off the record. No they didn't.
I said who are they? And they went bing bing
bing bing bing and bing. Oh, I don't know any beings.
And he didn't say I gave half of it a
way didn't know. He didn't say, he didn't say, don't
say anything, or he didn't say, look just between you
and me, or he didn't say keep it on the QT,
not for broad not for brook At, none of it.

(45:01):
So as far as I'm concerned, I am free and
at the stage willing to name some names. We'll see
how I feel during the new Semis and tears news next.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
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Speaker 2 (45:22):
Urban back on the program map to rate the Boys
the Mortal combating like the Boys are the main thing
now coming back to the final season, so we'll catch
up with Carl. I think he's in Sydney, this morning anyway,
twenty three minutes away from eight News already this week
that the jet fuel crunch is real in Europe. Six
weeks left, they say, and some it looks to be
full of cancelations. Back here in New Zealand's long haul
fairs are up twenty five percent. Trans has been twenty

(45:42):
domestic up ten. Forsyth Bar, of course, has the airline
heading for a turner in twenty nine million dollar losses.
Here Nicol Rabishanka is the CEO and he's back. Well,
it's good to see you. Good morning mate. You enjoying
this or not really?

Speaker 11 (45:54):
Well?

Speaker 17 (45:55):
Getting paid to solve complex problems is a privilege?

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Are you solving them or are you just right them out? Well,
we're doing what we can.

Speaker 17 (46:02):
We're controlling the controllables. I was at Marsden yesterday and
we had a ship in just with jet fuel docked
and delivering fuel. And look, the current situation is being treated,
at least by US as it should be as a
commercial crisis. The markets continue to clear, and so we're

(46:25):
controlling what we can make.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
So Marsden, the numbers that came out yesterday nationally for
all the fuels were from last week so what you
saw yesterday presumably will be reflected in the next update,
and that's encouraging. That's correct. Okay. Do you deal in
jet fuel separately from the diesel and the petrol the
way the government seems to lump them all and together
other supply chains different or are they all together?

Speaker 17 (46:46):
We get some shipments that only carry jet, but a
lot of them are bringing in all three fuels at
the same time.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
What's your assessment of access to it at the moment
and is it getting worse.

Speaker 17 (47:00):
We've got twenty four days a jet in New Zealand
as we speak, which is the minimum service obligation, so you.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Know that's there.

Speaker 17 (47:09):
We have another thirty odd days of shipments that are expected,
a few of them already in the economic zone and
a few on their way to New Zealand. As I said,
at this stage, the markets continue to clear. The way
that the supply constraints being handled is through price, yep,
and price will then naturally lead to demand impact. But

(47:34):
we're not seeing necessarily the supply lines frame. These are
extremely robust supply lines.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
That's good. I'm glad to hear you say that, because
that's made in my assessment, not only with jet fuel,
but the others we in terms of will we run
out of or have trouble getting gas, It's not going
to happen.

Speaker 17 (47:52):
There are no signs yet. That's the situation we have
to deal with. That doesn't mean we shouldn't prepare for it,
which we are.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
The markets continue to clear. I keep asking everybody the
same question. I'm bullish. I don't think the wall's going
to restart. I think they'll cut some sort of deal.
The straight will open in some way, shape or form
in the not too distant future. If that's to come
to pass, how when does your problem finish?

Speaker 17 (48:19):
Fuel today's at one hundred and seventy dollars and ninety
four cents. That's almost exactly double what is what we
would consider normal the trajectory back to normal if indeed
your prediction's rate will be a complicated return to normal.
So I think we're expecting, and as other markets that

(48:43):
you know, best case scenario this is a six month revision.
It could be much longer than that, depending on how
much infrastructure is actually damaged.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
So when the Europeans say they've got six weeks left,
is that a numerical statement as opposed to it. I mean,
if you're getting fueled, they must get fuel, mustn't they.
I mean, there there's enough fuel, it's just price that's
the issue. Yeah.

Speaker 17 (49:04):
I mean, look, I can't comment on the European situation.
I'm not exactly sure what the impact is. But these
supply lines, along the supply lines, because the fuel supply
chain is built for continuous flow, there's not a lot
of storage at any one point. You know, it's expected

(49:25):
that the market will continue to operate, and so this
could be, you know, a storage issue as much as
anything else.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Well, the government working on that as far as diesels concerned.
Would you if you could wave a magic wand do
we need to materially change what we do in this
country in terms of storage and access in that sense
going forward? Or is the just in time model about Ryan?

Speaker 17 (49:47):
I think there is a good reason now to consider
what our minimum service obligations in the country are and
should be, but more specifically, how much terrestrial storage we
should look to have.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Is that on you or is that on the government?
Is that on channel? Who's it on?

Speaker 17 (50:04):
I think all of us, you know, the fuel suppliers
US as a major user of the fuel channel, government
one thing I can assure you and your listeners is
everyone who needs to be working this crisis actually is
doing a very good job, and we've got great collaboration underway.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
You're seeing pushback on price yet.

Speaker 17 (50:28):
Yeah, I remind you know a lot of our stakeholders
that air travel. You know, demand is elastic and there's
only so much our customers can absorb as far as
these price increases are concerned. So, and every market is different,
but we are starting to see certain markets where we're

(50:49):
getting pushed back on domestic.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah, a long haul, I'm guessing a long haul. See,
there must be an upside. I'm trying to work out
the upside. So you've got your engine, you have capacity problems,
but the upside. I mean the American airlines are laughing.
You can't go through the Middle East, you go out
through as you go through America. I mean, we've got
to be benefiting from that, don't we.

Speaker 17 (51:09):
Well, it's a double led sore long haul in that
bigger aircraft burn a lot more fuel, but the demand
strong and the demand is not as elastic, and we
are one of the safer passages that's available.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Around the world.

Speaker 17 (51:23):
So you're seeing that we're seeing a little bit of
uplift and demand and hence why we're being careful about
how much long haul flying we do consolidate.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
But it's not dramatic. What about the transtacement? Is that
hard work?

Speaker 17 (51:40):
Trans Tasman's going good? You know, we are alongside the
Australians being extremely rational around how we deal with this
channel challenge.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Sorry, and so.

Speaker 17 (51:53):
Look, we are still flying four hundred odd flights to
day and one of the main things you know, we
need to do is to ensure that we continue to
do that. And if our customers need to get anywhere,
they can confidently book a flight with their New Zealand
and work a.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Full sithe bar about right at two twenty nine.

Speaker 17 (52:15):
The math is relatively simple to do, given you know
what we guided the market to.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I think.

Speaker 17 (52:23):
You know four bar and others are working the numbers
and they're they're there about.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Okay, So two twenty nine with the downside, risk could
be worse or that's about as bad as it gets.

Speaker 17 (52:35):
I'm not going to guide the market today, make but.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
I just want to know how much trouble you think
you're in.

Speaker 17 (52:42):
Well, I think the fuel crisis means guidance that was
in the market which said second half performance will be
at all slightly worse than first half, and then you
overlay the cost of fuel that's gone.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
In the couple of just before we rap. I've been
thinking about it, but it came up on my feet.
There's New York controble. You're gonna pull the pin on there.

Speaker 17 (53:07):
I was in New York last week, as it happens,
to promote our brand new sky Ness product. You know,
the northeast of the United States is a huge market.
We have to be very careful about how we navigate
that and in connecting New Zealand to the northeast of
the United States, both from a perspective of driving business

(53:31):
between the two countries and tourism. It's an important link.
So we also make money though, does it well, we're
flying the wrong aircraft at the moment.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Correct.

Speaker 17 (53:40):
So after being in New York and promoting frankly New Zealand,
which was a very successful promotion, might I add we
had about seven billion impressions in two days. To put
that in context, that's the equivalent of a whole year's
worth of marketing that we would do to promote not
only a New Zealand services, but New Zealand to the world,
so it was hugely successful.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
That's good, but it still doesn't answer my question on
where you're going to pull.

Speaker 17 (54:04):
I'll come to that straight after that. I was in Charleston,
and the reason I was there is that's where Boeing
manufactured the seven eight sevens, and two of us new
seven eight sevens are on the assembly line and those
are mission fit. They're being built for New York and
so we just need to get our hands on those aircraft.

(54:26):
There were due in May. Unfortunately there's a few more
issues on the Boeing side certification and otherwise, which means
they're going to be delayed to July August timeframe, maybe
this year this year.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Because Quantas are reading your lunch though, aren't they on
that route?

Speaker 17 (54:45):
They have a better aircraft that they're flying. The economics
is slightly better, but not that much.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
So you get that plane on, you can compete and
it's locked in and we're good to go.

Speaker 17 (54:55):
Yeah, we will have world class product on that aircraft.
It's the right aircraft after right engine. It's two of
the it's the first two long range Bowing seven eight
sevens anywhere in the world and any Zealand will be
taking delivery.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Of those fantastic Yeah, so we'll be ready to go. Well,
good luck with it all. Thank you for these are
interesting times. Nicol Ravishenk in New Zealand CEO thirteen to two.

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Speaker 2 (55:23):
It'd be Mike, how good is Nicol? Very clear? MEAs
it seems like a very capable CEO. Well, he's still
new on the job, of course, but I'm I was
going to say I'm warming to him. I've never had
a problem with him in the first place. He seems
like a very likable, relatable sort of guys working bloody
hard to very very difficult circumstances. Isn't that good news
about the fueler? That's the most There are two really
important things to come out of that conversation. Point Number

(55:45):
one is they're not giving up on New York, which
I think is good. They're losing money on New York
and they've got the wrong plane. But the right plane's
coming and it's not far away, which makes it a
world class plane. So that's good. So connecting you if
you're not going to go to London, which I think
they still are eventually. But if you're not going to
go to London, I got to go up through somewhere
in the world. And America seems to be got people
a bullish on America. The size of the market. Get

(56:05):
into Chicago or back to Chicago, Get into Houston, San Francisco,
Los Angeles, Vancouver, and New York. They're critical markets, so
they can put a proper plane on that market then
they're often running. So I'm pleased to hear about that.
And the other thing was the fuel supply. And we've
been right all along, and that is that the fuel
supply is not actually a problem. So this freak out
thing that we've got currently whereby this X number of

(56:28):
days drop it, forget it. We've got the fuel. We're
not going to lose the fuel. The supply chain is solid.
You can see through into June. We're okay. So that's encouraging. Mike,
what a superbi in New Zealand interview, and the information
shared was straight to the point. Well done, Thank you, Marty. Mike.
Now this is interesting and I'm going to need to
think about this. By the way, one text on the

(56:48):
naming of the National Party trouble makers. Mike, Sammy's a pussy.
Probably a Hipkins plant. We haven't ruled that out. Funnily enough, Mike,
give them twenty four hours to name themselves, then name
names at the start of politics Wednesday, ratings Gold It's
not a bad idea.

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Speaker 2 (57:15):
Tom's dad, v Yes, name the Mike. I'm saying possible names.
Vander Molden, Uffendel, maybe, Kuruger, Meager give us your list.
Yes to naming the Mike. I'm guessing Bishop and Meager. Well,
you're guessing Bishop and Meger. I'm assuming because the coverage
I think was Thomas Coglan's coverage was he naming Mega
as the bagman for Bishop. This, once I name you
the names, gives you an insight into how pathetic the

(57:35):
whole Bishop thing really was. It's Bishop and a couple
of losers, essentially, So the media has made something out
of nothing, because once you hear these names, you're going,
is that? Are you serious? Is that all you ever had?
Barbara Krueger and vander Molden? Surely, Mike, Well, I don't
know who you people are, but you're sort of on
the money. The names are Tim vander Molden, Sam Uffendel,

(57:58):
Barbara Krueger, and Drew Bailey, which everyone's surprised about Joseph Mood.
I don't know how widely these names are known, because
I don't care and I haven't inquired, but I've gotten
pickable sources, so just so I don't confuse anybody. Vander Molan, Uffendel, Kruger,
Bailey and Mooney are your famous five. And when you
look at the famous five and Bishop, now Bishop was Bishop,

(58:22):
as I understand, was wandering around late last year, going
do you want to do anything about it? And no
one sort of turned up, and then he had another
crack and he went like that and still no one
turned up. And the only five that turned up were Uffendel,
vander Molan, Kruger, Bailey, and Mooney. And most of you

(58:42):
are going to go who apart from Bailey, of course,
who see some of its resentment. I'm led to believe
Krugger is a bit bumped. She didn't get a job
in cabinet Bailey's bum because of well you know what
happened to I mean everyone knows what happened, Mooney probably
and Uffendel and see Sam Uffendel in particularly disappointed because
he got himself in a will of pain and his

(59:03):
party stood behind him and they didn't have to and
so him being, you know, in this list is not
particularly good for him. And vander Bollen's the other. I'm
assuming these are people who wanted a bit more than
they've got. He's got a caucus of what's luck and
got fifty nine whatever they got fifty seven. There's a
lot of people. Not everyone gets the top job. So
it's Chris and Tim and Sam and Barbara, and Andrew

(59:25):
and Joseph, and there's a lot. And that's your coup. Ha,
that's your coup, ladies and gentlemen, God's sake. There you go.
You happy now News in a couple of moments, and
then Carl Ubin.

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Speaker 2 (59:48):
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pulled in fifty five million viewers started based on a
less and uncomic book series. Anthony's star of course, who
plays the evil superman like character called Homelander, and Calban
who plays Billy Butcher, and Carl Urban Is with us.
Good morning, morning, Mike.

Speaker 9 (01:00:08):
How are you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
I'm very well, indeed so so, I don't know where
to start. I mean, you appear so busy. Does it
feel like you're busy?

Speaker 11 (01:00:14):
It feels like I haven't stopped, to tell you the truth,
this year has just been one NonStop sequence of hopping
on planes and traveling around the world talking about all
these shows. It's it's a good it's a good spot
to be in.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
And how have you landed yourself in this particular dilemma
of busyness?

Speaker 11 (01:00:30):
I think just to confluence the circumstance that, you know,
a lot of these shows and movies that I've done
happened to be being released at the same time. But
you know, I, you know, I just I can I
take it, you know, existentially really right back to you know,
being in Lord of the Rings and and how grateful
I am for to Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh for
putting me in that, because that really set the set

(01:00:52):
the stage for the whole show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
So isn't that amazing? I was reading something about you
the other day. So you go back to the beginning
of like Lord of the Rings, maybe even Star Trek,
and how world has changed, and there'll be many people
watching you today. Back then there was no social media,
there was no streaming world. I mean, just in your time.
I mean, how radically has it changed?

Speaker 11 (01:01:10):
Eh? Oh, the landscape has changed tremendously, and I see
some you know, real positives with it. I mean, the
advent of streaming, for example, has allowed us to you know,
tell the kind of stories and tell the stories in
a tone that you never would have been able to
tell on television or even in movies for that fact before.

(01:01:31):
So you know, on one hand, there's been an amazing
expansion in possibilities. But then also, you know, there's also
a certain contraction going on. So but at the moment,
I'm in a great position and just really enjoying playing
these characters and delivering something fun to the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Is there a common analysy? You see the three things
I'm talking about, so the Bluff, Mortal Kombat, and of
course the Boys. Is there a common analogy in the
I don't know what you'd call it. The genre? Is
it sci fi? Is it marvel? I mean, what is it?

Speaker 9 (01:02:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:02:04):
I do, it's an interesting one. It's because you know,
you know, naturally, you know, I find that, you know,
there is this sort of desire to try and you know, categorize,
but you know, I just like to do projects that
I find creatively interesting. A lot of them happened to

(01:02:25):
be in rather large a behemoths that sort of connect
with a big audience.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
So yeah, and given streaming is the workout there? I mean,
as the landscape changed in that sense, are there a
million people pitching a million? I years because there's lots
of outlets now?

Speaker 11 (01:02:44):
Yeah, most definitely. I mean, you know, you know it
is you know, in the old days, it used to
be a very sort of finite number of networks sort
of globally that they had a sort of a certain audience.
But with the advent of streaming, you know, particularly as
it relates to the Boys, it's a global hit. It's
a global phenomenon. I've never experienced anything like it. And

(01:03:08):
you know that the fan base, you know, is so
supportive of this show, and it's really incredible to get
to the end of this sort of nine year journey
and to be going out on top exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Listen hold on more in a moment The Boys back
on the Telly War with canl Urban shortly ten past
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Talks, b News Talks, thirteen past eight, Carl Uban's our guest,
final season of The Boys actually speaking to it. How
do they explain this? Carl? You know, at the very
start of this, because a fifth and final season, was
that an arc or not?

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:03:44):
There was.

Speaker 11 (01:03:45):
I think there was always you know, I was aware
from the graphic novels where this was always going to go.
But my first point of introduction actually was reading in
the in the In the Trades that my friend and
fellow Kiwi Anthony Starr had been cast in this project.
And so I read about it and I'm like, oh, damn,
that sounds really fun, catchy title The Boys. The the

(01:04:07):
whole sort of premise of it was, you know, corrupt
superheroes and a group of vigilantes trying to bring them down.
I thought that's interesting. I read the initial pilot and
immediately was drawn to the character of Billy Butcher, this miss,
this sort of mysterious and mischievous character who has this
ability to bend other people to his will and get

(01:04:29):
into a lot of trouble. And it was just fun.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
And you said it's done.

Speaker 11 (01:04:32):
Yeah, it's It's definitely bittersweet. It's been a hell of
a ride. And you know, I've become very close to
the cast and crew who were up and shooting up
in Toronto for the last few years, and I'm really
going to miss it. But I'm also very grateful that
we have the opportunity to tell the story that we

(01:04:52):
want to tell and go out at the point that
we want to go out at and not when somebody
else says, okay, get up stage.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
And did it change? But did you gather each season
the old faces were back. There was a bit of camaraderie,
bit of chemistry. The oil was turning the wheel a
bit more easily as each season went on.

Speaker 11 (01:05:09):
Yeah, I certainly. I think that's one of the benefits
of shooting a show like this over multiple seasons is
that you get the opportunity to not only explore your
characters a lot more in depth, and you know, the
very multifaceted characters. You know, nothing's black and white, and
particularly as it pertains to Butcher. But then also the
sort of the chemistry, chemistry and the relationships between the

(01:05:33):
cast and the crew, you know, can only help but
deepen when you know you've been in the proverbial trenches
for so long?

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
What did you do to Butcher yourself? Were you allowed
to do a lot?

Speaker 12 (01:05:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:05:42):
It was a very collaborative process with our show runner.
I mean, you know, typically you would get a draft
of an episode, you know, I would read it, and
then I would write down just some thoughts and ideas
and pitch them to the show runner and he would go, oh,
that's great, we'll take that. No, let's not do that.
But well, I like this idea, how about if we
build upon it? And so you know it. Consequently, I

(01:06:05):
think all of us felt incredibly invested in the show.
But ultimately, the vision of the show is Eric Kripkey.
And you know, he writes about things that are of
importance for him, and he writes these things often two
years before the show actually air is, and he has
this amazing ability of just tap into the zeicheist of

(01:06:26):
you know, really what's going on in so in the
forefront of social conscious whether it's Black Lives Matter or
you know, the Me Too movement, it's quite it's quite scary.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
And how did that balance between you know, those sort
of messages and the comedic side, and you didn't want
to lean in one way too much over the other.

Speaker 11 (01:06:45):
Yeah, well, you're right. That's very important to get that
balance right because at the end of the day, it
is fundamentally a show that's designed to entertain, and it
sort of holds up this satirical, sort of funhouse mirror
look at society and but you know, at the heart
of it, it's a show about characters, and it's a
show about you know, it's a show about hope ultimately.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
And are you one of those actors that want things
to go on forever, you know, like Shortland Street or
Coronation Street. You're happy to come and go. It was
it was good for what it was.

Speaker 11 (01:07:19):
Yeah, listen, I'm really happy to end it here. I
think that there's something there's something admirable about telling the
story that you want to tell and not sort of
riding the horse till the horse runs out of energy.
And I think that that will historically lend the show

(01:07:41):
a degree of potency, and you know, leave the audience
hopefully wanting a bit more and want to rewatch it,
you know, at their own at their own leisure.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
And did it get adjusted budget wise? You know, when
you see a show at the beginning, it looks a
little bit Indian. By the time you get to season five,
six or seven, you know, the budgets increased and everyone's
a massive glow up. Did you get a bit of that?

Speaker 11 (01:08:02):
I certainly. I mean that those are conversations that sort
of happen in rooms that I'm not in, but I
certainly can see from the schedule of the show. When
we started, I think we were shooting maybe sixteen days
an episode, and then that ballooned out to like twenty
twenty eight twenty four days in episodes. So in order
to do that you have to have more money. So
I think as the show connected with an audience, as

(01:08:24):
it grew in popularity from season to season, and I
think there was also, you know, a demand for us
to keep pushing the envelope and deliver something that that
sort of topped what we've just done in the previous season.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
So the rest of the year, what's lined up?

Speaker 11 (01:08:41):
Well, the thing I've gotten. Coming out next is Mortal
Kombat Too, which is a huge studio movie which I'm
super excited about. I can't wait for an audience to
see that. So that drops on May the eighth, So
I will literally finish talking to you and hop on
a plane and go and are promoting that living the dream,

(01:09:02):
living the dream. Yeah, but you know, ultimately, for me,
the dream is back home in New Zealand, and that's
that's where my heart is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Good, lovely to talk. Appreciate it very much, Go well
with it.

Speaker 12 (01:09:13):
Thanks Mike.

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six two, which is Resonate Health pasking right, Well done
for outing these pricks. Yeah, Luxon needs to fire them today.
That's not how it works. It's you don't get fired
in politics, especially if you've got a seat and vnder
Moulden's got a seat in y Cato. Uffndel's got a

(01:10:51):
seat in Twonga and Mooney's got a seat in Southland.
The other two don't. Bailey does technically currently but isn't
going to stand again, so he'll be on the list
at thirty four currently that may well be adjusted in time.
And Kuruger doesn't have a seat either. She's on twenty
three on the list. Mike has bishop just ruined his career.

(01:11:12):
Here's the interesting thing about this, I hope not because
what went to his head. I've got no idea, because
he was never a prime minister, he was never a leader.
But what he is is a very very good operator.
In his portfolios, he would be one of the most
effective ministers going and I think most people like him
or dislike him would accept that. And he's a very
very good operator. So why he thought raising the issue

(01:11:35):
of leadership and then eventually surrounding himself with a bunch
of nobodies was going to somehow work, I have no idea,
but be that as it may, so I don't think
he's ruined his career. Obviously the reshuffle you can see
what happened there. Obviously lost his campaign manager job and
he lost his sport job. Please shut this coup down
against luxon Angela. There is no coup, which is the

(01:11:57):
other interesting part about this. The media has made a
mountain out of a mile. I'm assuming that most of
the media know these names. They just don't dish the
detail out, which you can ask some questions about the
quality of the media if you want. But nevertheless, I'm
assuming most of the media know those names. Therefore they
know there's no coup. They know there are no numbers,
they know this is a mountain out of a molehill.

(01:12:19):
And yet if you look at the coverage over the
last couple of days and then go back a couple
of weeks, this is all tied in with a couple
of weeks ago as well. Mike, these spibs are lightweight.
Prime Minister should kick them out. He can't kick them out.
That's the problem low level MP's Mike, I expect to
hear five resignations by the end of the day. They
won't be. There are no resignations. Also making this moderately interesting,

(01:12:39):
I hope Bishop gets dropped to the bottom of the
food chain. Selfish loser. I'm in towering and not surprised
about up and til he comes across as really thick.
Sam you especially disappointing as he's in a blue seat.
Does that mean Chris Bishop lied when asked a few
days ago if he supported as boss Man. No, he
may well have come to the conclusion that, you know,

(01:13:01):
his attempt such as it was at whatever he was
trying to attempt to do, had come to nothing, so
he sticks with Luxan. I don't know, Mike. I walked this.
This is the best one, Mike. I walk through Parliament
every morning. I noticed Sam Muffundil a few times recently
outside on the phone. Join those dots, ay, there was

(01:13:22):
your coupe right there. If those five miscreants might just
name cause the National Party any real damage, stock should
be put up for them in the town square. So
here's the thing. The trick is not being unhappy. You're
allowed to be unhappy. You can look at your loss
within a political party and go, you know what, things
aren't going that well at the moment. We're at thirty percent.

(01:13:42):
I wish we're at thirty seven. I might have a
word with a few people. You can be unhappy. We're
all unhappy at times in our workplace or whatever the
circumstances are. What you don't do is then go leak
that stuff to the wider media and cause your business,
your party, your operation trouble. Where these guys have gone
so badly wrong. Nothing wrong with being aggrieved. Be aggrieved

(01:14:04):
in caucus, be aggrieved in cabinet, be aggrieved in your
own little fish and Chip brigade for as long as
you want. But you don't go leaking against your colleagues.
Great stuff, Mike, What a group of nothings? God, Mike,
who the hell are these people? Sounds like deadwood to me,
And I think in knowing who these people are now

(01:14:25):
you can see just what a non event the whole
exercise has been. So I'm guessing today's caucus will come
and go, a riot Act or two will be read
and that will be the end of that news. Next
then Rod for.

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Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Question we'll get to Rod in the moment, is can
he survive? This is starma in the house. Kemi was
all over.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
This is a man who once said I will carry
the can for miss of any organization I lead. Instead,
he has sat his cabinet sectary. He has sacked his
director of Communications, he has sacked his chief of staff,
and he has now sat the permanent sectary of the
Foreign Office. All of these people fired for a decision.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
He made international correspondence with ends inne eye insurance, peace
of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Yes, one little morning to you make good you make
Give me an insight into the public service and how
it works, because I can quite categorically state that there
is nobody in the public service of New Zealand who
would see off a security investigation into an ambassador, see
that ambassador fail and then go hmm, that doesn't look

(01:15:45):
very good. But I'll tell you what. I'm going to
keep that to myself. That would not happen. How does
it happen in Britain?

Speaker 9 (01:15:51):
I have absolutely no idea. And it seems to be
a bizarre defense put up by Ollie Robbins, the Mandarin
at the center of this, who says that he was
prohibited from telling Sakirs Darma about the reasons well, about
the mere fact that Mandelson had raised red flags during

(01:16:12):
his wedding procedure and had not been passed. The argument
was something he will bet to do with with privacy
and so on. But it just begg us belief. Obviously,
if if he had found all these things wrong with
with Mandleson and had decided that for that reason he

(01:16:34):
couldn't be passed, he would have had to tell the
Prime Minister all the things which he says he could
not tell. I mean, it makes no sense whatsoever, none
of that, none of the government's arguments. Do and order,
Zolie Robbins. I don't know what way to look, to
be honest, it's it's a it's so catastrophic and catrophic.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
And no pointma goes high. How are you, by the way,
how's Mandelssohn going? We get the text for that one.
I mean, at no point does he have an inquiring
mind enough to ask a some good question. Are you serious?

Speaker 9 (01:17:08):
I don't believe that if you subscribe to that point
of view, which is Starbar's point of view, which is
Starvar's defense, then the Prime mini is that has to
resign because he's a moron, you know, an incurious moron.
So it's kind of that whole Revie. It's one of

(01:17:29):
the two. But of course there will be no pressing
for him to resign because there is no one anywhere
remotely close to being as other leader of the Labor Party.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Given the time he seems to or the number of
times he seems to have got himself into tremendous amounts
of difficulty, is there no one in the Labor Party going, look,
this is clearly a pattern and this guy is not
for the long haul. So let's get among us and
you know, drum up some sort of idea as to
what we might do by way of a succession.

Speaker 9 (01:18:00):
Well, I don't think that's a single person in the
Labor Party other than Sakia Starma, but possibly including Sakia Starmer,
who thinks he's up to the job. I don't think that.
I don't I don't think anyone. You know, I was,
I was out canvassing in the northeast of England. Were
not canvasing, but actually doing some proper journalism, you know,
finally out what people were thinking with the various Labor

(01:18:21):
candidates in the Northeast, and they are in no doubt,
you know, the man's an absolute disgrace. It's and he's
going to cost them lots of seats. So no one
is under the illusion that he's doing a good job.
But there is simply no mechanism by which there anyone

(01:18:43):
could be found to replace him at the moment. That's
the real problem.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
What I find interesting is, just as an exercise and observation,
is how he can stand there saying what he says
with a moderately straight and not overly read face.

Speaker 9 (01:18:56):
That's because neither you nor I were trained as lawyers, Mike,
I don't know, maybe you were. He He cloaks himself
in procedure and legal eese, and it is that which
will probably see him through this particular crisis until the
next crisis, which is in a couple of weeks when
the election results come through.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
To say, by the way, I've got a couple of
polls this morning. Scotland he comes third or they come third,
and Wales he comes third as well. Is that true?
And I note that in a polar yd this morning
they're suggesting reform as the opposition in Wales post the boat.

Speaker 9 (01:19:30):
No, that's so absolutely right. Crivethcomery then followed by reform
and in Scotland reformer, which which is the last place
on earth you would expect reform to do well, but
is nudging up towards second place because because Labor Labor.
They can't see it themselves, but they are losing everything

(01:19:50):
as a consequence of two things. Partly of the far
left of the party, which which you know as has
left its mark on them the core in years, but
largely because the man is so staggeringly inect The only
thing which saves him is that cloaking himself in legally
is being cautious and loyally. Has probably helped in foreign

(01:20:13):
affairs a little bit. He hasn't been all bad in
foreign affairs, but domestically he's been an utter disaster.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Yeah, all right, go, well we'll see Thursday, Rod little
out of Brookin those poles I mentioned, they're doing one
of their big poles where they talk to thousands of
people and they work it through the electorates because they
don't have a proportional system. Therefore you can look at
the poland think they're reasonably accurate. So third in both
Scotland and Wales this is the Labor Party. Labor will

(01:20:42):
lose seats in the Scottish Parliament the Welsh Parliament. This
is all coming up May seven, by the way, so
it's a couple of weeks away. Based on polling of
more than five thousand Scottish voters. Labor will slunt to
just seventeen seats. In Scotland, SMP will remain the largest party.
They're projected to win fifty six, so fifty six to
seventeen likely to be reliant on the Scottish Greens, who

(01:21:02):
will get eight. Reform are set to win twenty two
twenty two a right wing party in Scotland with twenty
two seats ahead of Labor, Libdim's on fourteen, Conservatives on twelve,
Wales Plaid Camrie Separate Modeling Complex two and a half
thousand Welsh voters, Labor into third place behind Played and Reform.

(01:21:25):
Played projected thirty seats, Reform close to twenty eight thirty
to twenty eight, so the official opposition Labour reduced to
just twenty four seats. So it'll be amazing if that
comes to past seventeen to two.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Wilson's gone nine to seven ahead of Stan Moody. It's like,
you don't care. I know you don't care. I get
it that you don't care. But Moody's a talking point
he's a young man, he's never been anywhere. Suddenly he's
at the World Championships and he was seven three up
against craw and Wilson, who's one of the Ames great players,
who was great, faded a bit, has come back to
be great again. Anyway, Wilson just won six in a row.

(01:22:06):
That'll break yet, that would break you mentally if you're
a young Stan Moody. You're at the Crucible for the
first time ever. You're up seven to three year starting
the sweat, and then Wilson comes back and wins six
on the bounce as they say, and Britain six on
the bounce and he's nine to seven. By the way,
got a very nice email from a bloke called Kelson,
who runs a sports production company. Is an old mate

(01:22:27):
of mine from I can't remember where. I think it
was TV and Z anyway, very nice guy used to
I think I played golf with them once. And he
wrote to me he said, I recall from your Mark
the week late last year. See, I love it when
people write to me and quote me Mark the week
from last year. Anyway, you gave the Rural Games an
eight bringing back the sheep dog trials, and I remember

(01:22:48):
that specifically because the sheepdog Trials are fantastic. His company
Sports Inc. Produces television content for the Rural Games, and
then post the Rural Games, they put together a program
that went out on TV and Z I assume you
and still get it on TV and Z plus over Easter.
That was sort of a highlights package of the Rural Games.
Now they've rolled out two highlights programs a week, showcasing

(01:23:09):
different parts of the Rural Games, and last Saturday was
the big one, the sheep dog Trials. So he says,
I know the Warriors and Motorsport take you viewing precedents,
but we thought you might like to get back to
viewing some of the sports that built the nation. So
he's taking at maharkstring. See see he was doing sports
that built the Nation's sheepdog trials, would chopping and sheep sharing.

(01:23:31):
And they're on TV and Z plus. I don't know
how to get amongst the TV and Z plus. Have
we got the egg toss in there or not? I
don't know where they're doing their egg toss anymore, but
well not with the price of eggs and the shop
point good point, you know, But I know yesterday I
was reading somewhere that TV and z's launched a new
platform for their digital so maybe they make it easier
to get around. But have a look at those rural

(01:23:51):
games and have a look at the sheepdog trialing and
stuff like that. It'll be good, Mike. At those National
Party members aren't happy, they should buger off. That's my message.
I mean, the thing about politics that's different is you
sign up for three years. It's a three year deal,
so be as unhappy or as happy as you want.
But I mean, at the end of it, just bucker off.
You know, if you don't like it, knap off, loser, Mike.

(01:24:12):
This picking special people for fuel subsidy concerns me. Yeah,
me too. Why don't rural shepherds or sharing contractors receive
a subty relief teachers? It's not an unfair question. And
this is what I've argued all along. When you've got
an idiot like Elbanezi just handing out freebies to everybody,
doesn't have any money, but just freebies for everybody, the
people who don't need it get it, which is stupid.

(01:24:33):
So what this government has done is try to pick
their way around the areas they believe are the most
in neat, so the care workers first cab off the rank.
Fair enough, I don't think many of us disagreed with
that idea. I don't know that many of us disagree
with the idea of rural teachers. But once you start,
where do your stop? And that's always the conundrum.

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problem of supermarkets in this country, if you only broke
them up, we'd have more competition. If we had more competition,
everything ha'd be solved. Not true, because in Australia they
do have more competition. But they're all in court at
the moment, and today another case has started or is starting,
in the Federal Court. They're being sued by the Competition Watchdog.

(01:26:26):
They're accusing specifically Woolworths of selling groceries through discounts that
weren't real, so they'll deny it all. So there's a
big scrap. The other guys have already gone to court
and they're withholding that particular decision to work out what
happens in this decision. And depending on what happens that

(01:26:48):
this decision depends on the other decision, and all the
decisions come together. But the point being, no one likes them,
no one believes in them, no one thinks they've got
a better deal anyway. They've got this basket of goods
and this is the funniest thing going. And these are
the things that they've said, you said were on sale,
They weren't. Fifteen fifteen pack box of tiny Teddies. The
Australian is getting ripped off on the tiny Teddies allegedly.

(01:27:10):
The Sikata rice crackers. They said there was a bargain there.
There's not. Brag apple side of vinegar, twelve pack of
Carmen's Classic fruit and nut muslely bars. You thought you
were getting a bargain, No, you weren't. Penne Pasta, Fabs,
Fresh Blossoms, laundry powder, lo Via, Kleenex, tissues, Lucky Dog Bones,

(01:27:30):
nest Lay, Celariat, Baby Cereal and tim Tabs. The family
pack of the Tim Tabs. They were ripping you off
on the tim tabs allegedly. Hence they're in court today,
so we'll monitor that with a great deal of interest.
Five away from nine trending.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
Now as well.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Book in your flu vaccination today right now. Trump hasn't
got a new AG attorney general since he sacked Bondie
a couple of weekends ago. Todd, Blanche is your man.
Apparently he's acting. Trump said a couple of nice things
about him. Maybe it's his, maybe it isn't. But we've
got to get another couple of names in the in
the mix. Hamet Dylan and Janine Piro you'll remember from
Fox and she's in She's in whatever they call it,

(01:28:09):
the District of Columbia or Washington Stay, whatever it is. Anyway,
Todd was asked about the job.

Speaker 18 (01:28:14):
I love working for President Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
It's the greatest honor of a lifetime.

Speaker 18 (01:28:17):
And if President Trump chooses to keep me as acting,
that's an honor. If he chooses to nominate me, that's
an honor. If he chooses to nominate somebody else and
I go back to being the DAG, that's an honor.
If he chooses to nominate somebody else and asks me
to go do something else.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
I will say, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
I love you, sir. See why coun't sim Uf And
he'll be like the Hi. Why can't Andrew Bailey be
like that? I love you, Christopher? What about Curiger? Why
count Kuriga?

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
Guy?

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
You want me to be the day, Chris? I love you, sir.
I'll go back and be the day. Whatever the day is, well,
dippity whatever it is, Why count those guys? How about
what was the other guy's name? Mecan do mooney? See
you can't even he can't just study names that were
named throwing other people under the bus we had nothing

(01:29:05):
to do with it. Isn't that the point? The point
is I can't even remember the name of these clowns.
That's how non inconsequential the whole thing was. Anyway, he's
a supporter, he's a trooper. Anyway, we'll see how the
caucus goes today. We'll see, we'll see what happens, if
anything happens, and that should be the beginning of the
middle and the end of it, and we can all
get back to concentrating on the war, which, by the way,

(01:29:26):
the deadliners ceasfire deadlines due Thursday, Trump said earlier this morning,
he didn't think he'd extended, so presumably they're going to
cut a deal. We'll see as always, Happy.

Speaker 10 (01:29:35):
Days, nay.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
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