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April 27, 2026 90 mins

On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Tuesday 28th of April, Trade Minister Todd McClay called in from India to discuss the signing of the FTA, and King Charles has touched down in the US in the wake of an attempted assassination over the weekend.  

The PM was in after a short week to talk the India trade deal, our fuel supplies, ACT’s displeasure with the major events fund, and the stoush with TVNZ.  

And Andrew Saville and Jason Pine discussed a successful sporting weekend at One NZ Stadium, the Warriors, and the Government’s decision not to fund the SailGP next year. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Be well, you welcome today the end of your deals.
Signed the Trade Minister with us from LPMS and Robert
Jobson from Washington. As the King and Queen touchdown for
the week, the Lads and the commentary box Catherine Field
and France Rod that all those the UK calls Pasky
welcome to the short and week seven past six. To
tell you what it says something about the power of
the Warriors brand that you can travel to any major
center in this country and as a so called Auckland

(00:33):
team sell the place out, and you can sell those
large stadiums out. And so it wasn't the Capital and
Anzac clash on home soil. Yet another victory that came
as a result of an excellent game of rugby league.
I thought reminds us yet again that it doesn't really
matter what end of the table you're at these days,
any given game can be close. For the Warriors. It
was a lesson in coming back from the first half
that could have should have been better, but if you

(00:55):
believe in class, the great science will always find whatever's
required to get to the right side of it. The
eightieth minute, for the observer, what a fast paced, high
quality exchange. And you think neither looked in fury, A
neither looked overwhelm. The ball got moved about the place
with speed and flare. You can see why the game
in general is on such a role. The fitness, agility,
and power of your average NRLA is at a level

(01:16):
that produces a sport that is exciting to watch. There
have been any number of results this season that have
shown the NRL to be one of the best competitions
in professional sport anywhere in the world. For the warrior
is part. They seem to be a side that have
players that show up or not are given any given week,
but there are enough of them to fill the gaps
of those who haven't to piece together. A victorious performance

(01:36):
means a Lesniak wasn't that good? Was he too picky?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Was?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Though? They seem to have some people like Ford who
are good every week in others that sort of oscillate
depending on well, who knows what. You might want to
worry a little bit going forward about that particular aspect
of the side. I mean, the great sides offer more
consistency than that. But as always, winds are wins, points
and points, and if you haven't, have a look at
the table and you will find us right up there

(01:59):
with the best of them. Injury might be starting to
be an issue, so depth might start to be a
talking point. But with the Eels to come to the Saturday,
we face another side below us. But having said that,
when you are where we are, pretty much everyone's below you.
This is an awesome season. I was thinking over the weekend,
an awesome season. We really are a very very good side,
playing very enjoyable league. These days, it's a thrill to

(02:19):
be a fan, and there was every prospect things are
not just on a roll, but getting better and better
on This really could be our year.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
News of the world. In ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Things arrived in Washington, but you know what they're still
talking about.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
I was surrounded by great people, and I probably made
them act a little bit more slow. I said, wait
a minute, Wait a minute, let me see, wait a minute.
Turned I started walking and there's please go down, Please
go down on the floor.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
So I went down, keeping questions, keep getting asked about
that security.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
We stopped the suspect that.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
We stopped him as soon as he tried to do
what he was trying to do. And the President was safe,
his cabinet was safe, and every reporter and every member
of the of the press and their guests were safe
as well.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Questions keep getting asked about Cole Ellen.

Speaker 7 (03:08):
We're going to be able to present to the world
exactly what happened. This individual's entire background, who he knew,
where he lived, who he was talking to, everything about
the firearms, everything about the ballistics. America wants answers, and
we're going to give him to you because President Trump
required that.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
But the King is safe and proceedings run away. The
British embassy in total two and a half thousand sandwiches
in total individuals.

Speaker 8 (03:31):
We're doing two hundred and fifty of each cake.

Speaker 9 (03:34):
We're doing Victoria sandwich cake Equat raspberry and almond Gatto,
five hundred and fifty.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
SCons Beck in Britain. The King's PM, he's in the
world of trouble. Tis not for me to make any
decision or view. Therefore, the leader of the opposition loved
the opportunity to put the matter to the host tomorrow
and a vote is on more from rod later across
the water and islands. Like the dissidents turned back.

Speaker 9 (03:57):
The clock in Belfast, we do have a clear message
to those that are behind these attacks.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Go away.

Speaker 8 (04:03):
You are not wanted the Northern Ireland that we are
trying to develop that batter and priorer future for everyone
from all communities.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Finally, from the free speech file, we got the Chinese
striking again New ban On Telly. Now they're regulating what
is known as the ceo romance microdramas. This is where
a rich ceo or a billionaire falls in love with
an ordinary woman. Are these stories from out unrealistic? The expectations,
of course are the new guidelines will discourage glorifying wealth
and worn against plots centered on marrying rich, with creators

(04:33):
pushing to focus on a real relationship. So that is
news of the world and drudgery. In nineteen, speaking of
Asia generally, Japan Core Corp inflation two point four, regular
inflation one point five, up from one point three. As
any of that good, Well, it's within the Central Banks
two percent target range, so that's not the end of
the world. Americans still miserable consumer sentiment forty nine point eight,
which is upper smidge but still lowest level since records

(04:57):
began in nineteen fifty two. Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
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It By News Talks evy.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Quick catch up if you missed it, doj inquiry into
juror Jerome Powell. That's gone done, it's over. It was
too embarrassing. So that means warsh can go ahead. Cease
fire between Israel and Lebanon that's been extended another three weeks,
so that's encouraging. And Iran allegedly this morning is offering
to open up the straight if we can put aside
the business of the nuclear negotiations for now. I'm assuming

(05:33):
that's what Trump was referring to over the weekend as
as a lot but not enough. But we'll see where
that goes.

Speaker 10 (05:38):
Fifteen past I'm sure on partner's Greg, how are you no?
That would be from generate generate my sincere, remember the
generate wealth and key we save as specialists.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
No, that's the one now short week I'll take the
blame for that one. Intel they're back, yes, sir.

Speaker 11 (05:59):
So it's taken a of a century but yeah, they've
finally climb back above their dot com era peak. So
they're up twenty four percent on Friday after the results
HI again of a night that jumps the biggest since
ninety eighty seven, so they're trading at fresh record high.
So stuck up one hundred and twenty five percent this year. Remember,
the US government stepped.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
In last year.

Speaker 11 (06:19):
They were sort of underforming a bit and sort of
they're auditioning out sort of tens of billions of grants
and subseeds to make them sort of expand their or
to encourage them for US, say, to expand the chip
manufacturing in the US. So that's helping and also helped
the US government.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
So their steak.

Speaker 11 (06:32):
They chipped a nine billion last year that's worth thirty
six billion. But yeah, results are all good. So first
quarter reviews they are up thirteen point six billion. Even
more impressive second quarter guidance that blue Pass forecasts at
fourteen point eight billions. So key driver Mike is AI
and no surprise, the demand for DAD chips are surge

(06:53):
and the data center revenue that was up to two
percent to five point one billion, so they are finally
tapping the AI boom. After left taking a bit in
previous years. Mostly chips are still CPUs or central processing units,
and they've dominated that for a long time. But they're
getting in on the act on the AI chips, so
growing in a faster rate, even though it's still a
small share of the pie overall. So it puts into

(07:14):
on a strong position if it can bridge the gap
between the two sets of chips supplied by general purpose
and AI driven computing demand. So if there's a turnaround
gaining attraction, of course, with more little help from the
US government along the way.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Good. Now these industrial numbers out of China, what's this
tell us?

Speaker 11 (07:31):
Look, speaking of turnarounds, we've got one here as well.
So industrial profits, So if you look going back to
last in twenty twenty five, they were flat. The previous
three years they were declining, but yeah, things have sort
of turned around. So the industrial engine is firing gain,
at least on the surface. So in March profits up
fifteen point eight percent faster than six months for the

(07:52):
quarter fifteen a half cent. That's the strongest start in
twenty years since twenty seventeen, but bearing the pandemic spike
in twenty twenty one, a big driver. High tech manufacturing
MIKE profits up forty seven percent. AI again the standout.
You've got sectors like optical fiber seeing profits surge more
than three hundred percent. Equipment manufacturing that's going well. Exports

(08:14):
are rising up around about fifteen percent. That's the fastest
pace since twenty twenty two. Set's driving factory demand. Raw materials,
they are going well. Profits and that set up almost
eighty percent. And this is all despite the war. So
you think of that and what energy prices are doing.
But China's actually relatively insulated from the shock, think thanks
to its reliance on coal and renewables, and also helps

(08:36):
a bit of large stock piles of Iranian oil.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
So yeah, we'll have to see where that ob goes.

Speaker 11 (08:41):
In weeks and months, again depending on how the conflict goes.
But yeah, still that weak domestic demand story there and
ongoing price competition, but officials are trying trying to fix that,
and yeah, the big question is what comes next. But yeah,
a really good start to the year. And yea, let's
see it comes in pig steel.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Speaking of resilient Toyota Toyota.

Speaker 11 (09:00):
Yeah, so, yeah, vehicle cells have been impacted by petrol prices,
no surprise there, and Toyota is a bit pretty good
barometer for that are the world's.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Biggest car maker.

Speaker 11 (09:11):
Sales are slipping great. Global sales fell around five point
eight percent nine hundred and eighty three thousand vehicles in March.
It's the second monthly decline. Production holding up pretty well,
what not, just the conflict the rare four transition is
having a bit of an impact, so Buys evidently holding
off the head of the new model rollout. But yeah,

(09:31):
middle is certainly a drag. Sales in that region down
by nearly a third. Also, of course with the straight
log gem that sort of both sides or stopped at
both sides, that that's really disrupting key shipping routes. So
it's effecting both demand and supply chains. That matters Fortiota,
and yeah, Japanese carmakers generally they rely on the region
for about seventy percent of their aluminium supply, so input

(09:53):
costs arising, that's pushing their costs high. And yeah, some
cracks and productions. Their output in Japan's slowed a bit March,
and they cut it by around about twenty thousand units
per month. So we went to see when that straight
gets moving could take months to clear, of course that
bottleneck as and when.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
It does resume.

Speaker 11 (10:10):
But another bright spot, Mike, if there is one for toiler,
it's ev So global sales have more than doubled to
around thirty five and a half thousand units. And here
in New Zealand toys electrified lineup is booming. To hybrids
are going well, so more drivers are dodging the petrol pump.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Altogether, good stuff. What are the numbers?

Speaker 11 (10:30):
So we've got the dowt that's S ninety five points
four nine one three five, but we've got S and
P five hundred at a record at point one percent
seven one seven one. Nare's deck also the new record
high point two percent twenty four eight seven three. So
obviously waiting for these piece talks and where they go
foote one hundred down point six percent in the UK, Nicky,
speaking of Japan, that had a great session up one

(10:52):
point four percent sixty five three seven years today a
six two hundred down point two percent eight seven sixty six.
In the xftyls, of course, we were closed hos goal
down twenty five dollars four six eight three and outs
oil up two dollars thirty seven ninety six spots seventy
seven for WTI, CRUED and the county markets. Mike the
key years high against US dollar fifty nine point one

(11:13):
s sixcent a dollar up point one percent, eighty two
point three British pound with forty three point seven half
percent likewise against Japanese gen ninety four point three rest
this week. But going on, we've got business and consumer confidence.
We've got the RBS and a brain and she's speaking.
I'm sure we've got the lots of central bank meetings,
Bank of Japan fed ECB and the Bank of England.

(11:34):
Of course, plenty of results as welcoming in the US
Coca Cola visa, and lots of big tech earnings. Might Google, Microsoft, Amazon,
Meta and Apples.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
All on CEE tomorrow, appreciated Greg Smith, out of Generate
Wealth for anti Kiwi Saber specialists, pask Ala for you
this morning. Google plans to invest forty billion in Anthropic
ten now thirty later in video closed Friday at inaxcess
of five trillion. And some guy called David who used

(12:05):
to work for Google in their deep mind researcher. He's
setting up his own AI unit. So he went for
a bit of a capital raise and he raised one
point one billion dollars for his new AI lab. That's
a record. So he instantly gets evaluation of five point
one billion dollars. Amazing A six twenty one Here with
News Talks, Hebo.

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Speaker 2 (12:31):
Interesting numbers around commercial and industrial property available in the
northern part of the country at the moment, some very
good prices being held. Soide of some good economic news,
I'll share with you very shortly. Demographic news I'll share
with you after six thirty. And of course Todd McLay
has signed the big one, the FTA deal in India.
He's with us after seven six twenty five.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Trending now with MS Warehouse the Real House of Fragrances.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Let's start ready.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
So it's on. Didn't take long actually just hours ago.
Anthony Joshua said he's back in the ring as of July.
He's up against an unknown He's an Albanian called Pringer.
But that's a warm up, like Furies was a warm
up the other day. But once they've done the warm up,
here we.

Speaker 12 (13:14):
Go everybody is saying the same thing that Anthony Joshua
and Tyson Fury is signed and sealed and.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
They will fight this year.

Speaker 12 (13:23):
I've managed to speak to Spencer Brown from Gold Style Promotions,
who obviously represents Tyson Fury, and he says, yeah, go ahead,
confirm it. Eddie Hurd has already put on his Instagram signed, sealed,
delivered a jav Fury is on.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
It'll be bigger than a big thing. That's Sky's Andy Scott.
By the way, no official date, but they think November.
They're saying Q four Turkey Al Shaik, who's that Saudi
government official who's turned up on the various Tyson Fury documentaries. Anyway,
he's in charge of the General Entertainment Authority. He's the
man behind the boxing payroll, and of course he's part
of the whole Live Golf. We have a Getney wheel,

(13:58):
the live Golf thing. The Live Golf was having an
emergency meeting in New York ahead of the Mexican Tournament.
The Mexican tournament went ahead, as I assumed at the
emergency meeting in New York, but nothing seemed. It seemed
to be the end of lib Golf until it wasn't
the end of lib golf anyway. Turkey is in charge
of all of that. To my friends in Great Britain,
it's happening. It's signed now from reading this morning, Designe,

(14:19):
we're running this as news, and I thought, well, that'll
be interesting. Are they going with design the game with Netflix?
So Netflix seemed to be the real deal when it
comes to because Fury's last fight was on Netflix a
couple of weeks ago, so lord knows what that's worth
in terms of paydays. But it'll sell out within seconds
and it does a world of good. I don't know
where it leaves Joe Parker and all of this, but
it'll be the biggest thing in boxing internationally this year.

(14:41):
We'll talk about it with the lads after eight o'clock
this morning. Yeah. The demographics, let's come back to that shortly.
Paul Spoonlee, while known demographer. Of course, we've got some
interesting things happening. We're not having enough babies, we got
too many old people, and we've got a lot of
yet again still this reliance on immigration when it comes
to actually fill jobs. So we'll crunch you through the
numbers up for the news, which is next you're.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
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Speaker 2 (15:23):
Had a popit tramp over the war. So we'll get
the updoaate from Catholic fields in France for us the
morning meantime back here at twenty three minutes away from seven.
You inside into the democratic make up of our country.
So we've got fewer births, aging population not sure that's new.
We've got a reliance on immigration to sustain the workforce.
Fertilities at one point five y five which is a
record low, and the labor shortage. In twenty forty five

(15:44):
we're going to be short of quarter of a million people,
which presumably we're going to have to import in Auckland,
New Zealand. Europeans is are going to drop below fifty
percent in a couple of years time. Anyway, Paul Springley
these days as a senior fellow at QUITU and as
well as Paul, how are.

Speaker 13 (15:59):
You, I'm good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Is there anything bad in this per se? Do we
need to worry about this.

Speaker 13 (16:06):
No, no, and I wouldn't want to catastrophize at all,
but it's coming up. It's part of what we're going
to look like in the future. So why don't we
talk about it and make the appropriate policy decisions.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
What do we do around the birth rate? Because I
mean people will say cost of bliming, it's too expensive,
all those sort of things. Do we go down the
Japan China route and do something about it or not?

Speaker 14 (16:28):
No?

Speaker 13 (16:29):
No, I can't find anywhere in the world that has
reversed facility to cline and the options are amazing. And
I think I've mentioned to you before. Make in Hungary
you get twenty five percent reduction on your personal income
tax liability with each child. For children, no income tax
doesn't make any difference.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
No, what about the immigration given what was said by
some politicians last week, and there's a little bit of
angst as there I suppose has been over the years
around immigration. Does this get worse? Potentially?

Speaker 13 (16:58):
It does get worse potently. I think we should have
a discussion about immigration. We should talk about who we want,
and we need to talk about the numbers because increasingly
immigration is the only or the major factor in population growth.
And as you've mentioned, in terms of labor supply in
this country.

Speaker 14 (17:19):
So let's have it.

Speaker 13 (17:19):
Let's have an adult conversation about this. Let's not descend
to you know, pointing fingers or making jokes or you know.
This is a serious issue. So I think we should
all be involved and interested in this debate and let's
try and keep it up.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
You god, well, the problem is at turning in fifty
thousand jobs.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
It's it.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I mean, have you either had the you either filled
the jobs or you don't, do you? That's right?

Speaker 13 (17:47):
No, it's a pretty pretty impressive number. I do think
AI and technology will reduce that number. But yes, we're
going to need a lot of workers in the future
because our population is turning at this point because of
declining fertility and aging. So we're getting people exiting out
of the workforce at the top end, and we're getting

(18:07):
for entering the workforce at the bottom end. So immigration
becomes super important. I mean, you and I rocking up
to a hospital today, I mean of our own yeah, yeah,
of our nurses. I don't know what the number is.
Red Uptors are overseas.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
See in Auckland, you can feel it. I mean, it's
it's I'm all for immigration. I love immigration, always have.
But in Auckland you can feel it and you can
see it. It's materially changed, and that's I guess, the future.
But not everyone likes that.

Speaker 13 (18:38):
No, no, and some people are anxious about that and
that that should be acknowledged. And I don't want to
dismiss that as irrelevant or unimportant. But what we should
do is have a conversation about how we then make
this thing work, because we've got to make it work.
Mic I mean, it's it's our future and it's the
benefit of our children and grandchildren. We've got to make
it work. And it's just we're going to talk about

(19:01):
social resilience at Koi TiO and it's making sure this
country rides these shocks, whether they're AI or in this case,
demographic change.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Good stuff. Nice to talk to you as always, Professor
Paul Spoonley, Emeritus Professor and do KOITU Senior Fellow. These days,
I mentioned the industrial land. This is interesting. There's a
shortage supply demand classic story commercial industrial land record levels
eleven hundred and ninety dollars per square meter. Average asking
price for industrial buildings now has risen to more than
three and a half million for the first time. Average

(19:30):
size of industrial properties is shrinking, so you're getting less
for your money. Demand mostly driven by domestic investors. Well
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(20:54):
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voluntary employee buyout for up too seven percent of the
US workforce. In other words, you take the money and
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thousand job cuts it Meta and Microsoft this year alone.
In fact, so far in twenty twenty six, as of

(21:15):
last week, tech workers ninety two thousand jobs had gone
mainly because of AI six forty.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
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Speaker 2 (21:29):
Feel very good morning to you. Good morning made the
economic pain. I don't we should think about you. I mean,
we're all busy, self absorbed here in the country and
we're paying too much for diesel and too much perpetul
and we want the government to hand out all the money.
But I mean, you guys are more than anyone else
dealing with a couple of war. So how is it
all shaking down for you?

Speaker 15 (21:46):
Well, exactly, Mike. I mean rising prices caused both the
war and Ukraine, the blockhead and the Stratifol moves. This
is colliding, of course with your weak growth. I mean,
just have a quick look around Europe. We're looking at
what two point eight percent inflation, ero point two percent
GDP growth, almost six percent unemployment. You know, they say

(22:09):
that energy inflation is going to be five point four percent,
but no believes that. They all expect it to be higher.
So it's giving EU governments a lot of food for
thoughts because essentially, Mike, there's very little that they can
do to protect the consumer other than throw money at it.
What can they do? They can raise a lower g GST,

(22:31):
they can you call for tax counts for the less
well off. I mean, they're really in a bind. And
the reason they're so concerned is it really does then
appeal to the right wing, the far right wing of
the political spectrum. And that's where they're concerned that these
economies already weak, means that the electric will go for

(22:52):
the far right voter.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
And this is the problem, isn't it. Because the IMF
came out the other day and said, the days of
buying yourself out of trouble with debt because there's not
a person in Europe that isn't owing a fortune. The
days of buying yourself out of debt with borrowed money
is gone.

Speaker 15 (23:08):
Yeah, I mean essentially. The first thing, of course, was COVID.
Everyone said, okay, Europe is strong. Eu all together is
strong enough to be able to borrow our way out
of the debt that has come because of COVID, and
that was something that the French president, Emanuel Matcron really said.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Look, we can do it.

Speaker 15 (23:25):
But of course after that came the Ukraine War, and
now we've got the energy crunch. So there's a lot
of debt that has to be paid and the tax
that's coming in is not as much as it used
to be.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Now what's with mert? So we went in Trump went
into the Around War with no strategy, which is well,
probably partially true. But having said that, where's this come from?
What's driving this.

Speaker 15 (23:47):
This is very extraordinary. German Chancellor of Frederick Metz has
always been one of the most pro American chances that
Germany have had for several decades, and all of a
sudden he has clearly become these spokesmen for what Europe
thinks that the US is up to at the moment.
And in an extraordinary outburst for a Cherman chancellor, just

(24:09):
within the last couple of hours, he said, just as
you said, the US quite obviously went into this war
without any strategy. But then he went even further to
criticize American diplomacy. He said that the Uranians clearly had
the upper hand and that by making the Americans traveled
to Pakistan to the talks and then leave empty handed

(24:30):
was a sense that Iran had actually humiliated.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
She's gone. So that's done for the day. But we
got there on the and almost of it. Anyway. The
other thing, just briefly over the weekend was Spain. The
Americans speaking of American diplomacy. They were going to have
a crack at Spain because of course, you know well
what the Spanish have said about the war and Trump
in general, and there's no love lost there but they
were suggesting the Americans that they might expel Spain from NATO.

(24:57):
Interesting thought problems. They had to look at the rules
around NATO and there is no ability to expel Spain
from NATA. Other thing is the poly market, which I'm
becoming increasingly fascinated by. So the French police they've got
some suspicions. Charl the Gaul as in the airport, the
temperature spiked twice in the past month and it reached

(25:18):
unusually high levels. The temperature of the weather as measured
by Charlda Gall the airport. Now on both of the
days were the temperature spiked to unusually high levels, there
were a couple of bets on the poly market, and
the couple of bets made massive sums by betting on
unlikely weather patterns, so people thought this is not quite right.

(25:39):
Now in France, the official temperature for the day comes
from Chalde Gaul airport. So what they think happened is
that these two used hair dryers. So they got the
hair dryers and they put them next to the temperature
of meter bunted the temperature, collected the money and thought
they'd never be caught. But they have turned away from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
The make Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real estate news dogs, there'd.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Be I should have also mentioned a moment ago speaking
of the EU, Peter Magier, who's the new bloke in Hungary,
beat Victor Aorban a couple of weeks ago. Now he
had a word with Netanyahu over the weekend and was
suggesting that of Nittanya, whoever sets foot in Hungry he'll
probably be arrested because he's into supporting the international criminal courts.
So there is an arrest warrant out for nittnya who
on war crimes. But Hungary was one of the places

(26:25):
Nitta who could go whereby Victor would go. Don't worry
about it. Will come stay at my place and we'll
have some sausage rolls in a chat. Anyway, that's all over.
So I don't know how you raise that. When you're talking,
I assuming that Netta who rang him to congratulate him
on his victory, and he said, oh, by the way,
if you ever come here, I'll arrest you. I also
read over the weekend with a great deal of interest,
because I've been fascinated in this for a while, and

(26:46):
I think it's going to happen. The Bank of England deputy,
a woman called Sarah Breden, said the stock markets are
about to at some point, no one knows when, but
they're just too high. If you look at what's going
on the international markets versus you look at what's actually
going on in the world, the two don't dove tail,
and they don't always have to dove tail. But at

(27:06):
some point someone's going to wake up one morning and panic.
There's a lot of risk out there, she says, no kidding,
And yet asset prices are at all time highs. We
expect there will be an adjustment at some point. No
keetting two point zero likelihood of a number of risk
crystallizing at some kind a major macroeconomic shock. Confidence in

(27:26):
private credit. I've been talking about that for ages. Private
credit's going to go first. I reckon AI and other
risk evaluations. Readjust it's like that guy I told you
about a moment ago. One day's working at Google. Next
time he opened next day, he opens up an AI startup.
He goes to the market, he raises a billion dollars.
Just like that. He goes, Hello, my name's David, and
I do AI. There you go, mate, have a billion

(27:47):
dollars that can't last forever and sooner or later, and
she's spot on. So just when it does, don't go,
oh my god, it's the end of the world, because
it won't be, because it's happened before. It's just that
things are things are not alive at the moment, is
all I'm saying. Five away from seven.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
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Speaker 1 (28:08):
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Speaker 2 (28:10):
Related matter is a critical week, they say, don't they always.
This is the central banks around the world that will
be issuing various warnings. We've got the war costs going up,
supply chain crunch, households, businesses, we're all bearing it at
the moment. Talk a bit about the trucking idea shortly.
That was the idea. If you missed that yesterday. You know,

(28:31):
we have some heavier trucks and we I mean this
idea that we drive trucks twenty four to seven. I
don't know why we're suddenly waking up to this idea.
Won't you just run the trucks at night. You won't
get caught in traffic. It's a lot easier to do anyway.
Be that as it may. That for every week this
is the central banks that for every week there is
no deal, no energy flows, it's another week of inflation

(28:51):
pressure and pressure on supply chains, which it calls us true.
Powell's a likely last meeting now the Fed's expected to
keep things unchained. Financial markets are also saying there's almost
a one hundred percent chance that the the ECB, the
Bank of Japan, and the Bank of Canada will hold
outside probability that the Central Bank in the UK will

(29:14):
rise or raise by twenty five. You've got UK ministers
saying they're likely to see high prices for about eight
months after the war ends. That seems to be the
general consensus. Even if it opens tomorrow the Strait that
is about six ish months to clean up the mess
that's been created. But we once again go back to
that original and we asked Nicola Willis at the question,

(29:35):
it hasn't been worth it. It opens up today and
it takes six months to come right and by Q
three and Q four in this country things back to normal.
Has the war been worth it? She said, no, unequivocal no.
On the upside of all of this, the FTA has
been signed so mclay's winging his way back here and
it'll go in front of the Select Committee and will
at last see all of the text. I'll ask him,

(29:56):
without the text, see there's any high drama or whether
it's just been political shenanigans over the last couple of
weeks with the Labour Party in New Zealand piss so
Todd McLay, Christol luxem do some sport upright? How's that
sound for you? Meantime News next Her News.

Speaker 16 (30:09):
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Speaker 2 (30:27):
Head be Morning seven past seven to over the line.
The INDIFTA has been signed a couple of hours ago.
There are terror cuts to ninety five percent of our
goods fifty seven percent from day one. Todd mcclay's the
trade minister in Deli's with us Morning Break the Morning
as an achievement. Where does it sit for you?

Speaker 17 (30:42):
Well, this sits up there. It's very exciting. We're going
to have forty kiwik companies that come up.

Speaker 14 (30:46):
There's a lot of.

Speaker 17 (30:47):
Interest in India, a lot of international media entrants as well.
I think this agreement of the years to come and
really going to deliver.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
What did the Indians think of it? Given there a
big country, big population, massive a common they've got bigger
fish to fry than us.

Speaker 17 (31:02):
Well, what they've been saying, it's more than just an
economic agreement. It's strategic for the region. But they're talking
a lot about the cooperation and the people, the people linked,
the culture, the sport. I think there's this feeling is building.
It's one of the highest quality deals they've done, not
because we are a large economy, but of the detail
that was put in and Mike, there's a lot of

(31:23):
pride that it was done in nine months. Piers Goyel,
my counterpart, said, we have done this quickly, but we
didn't touch corners. We haven't compromised in qualities. It's had
a lot of coverage in India.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Have they been cognizant of the politics here around it?

Speaker 3 (31:41):
No?

Speaker 17 (31:41):
Not really. I mean again, we're a long way away.
That moves on to the next deal that they're looking at.
It really was a true celebration. I had two or
three days with Minister Gouyel were meeting the business community.
There's a lot of interest in what New Zealand has
to offer. I guess you know. They are a very
large democracy, as we are one of the world's first democracies.

(32:02):
They know that sometimes a bit of kicking screaming along
the way, but they're focusing on the positive parts, how
successful the deal is and just what it can deliver
for the two countries.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
It comes back here.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Now.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Do you expect trouble and Select Committee or not?

Speaker 14 (32:16):
No, I don't.

Speaker 17 (32:17):
These labors have supported it, which is very helpful. It'll
be stabled in Parliament Tuesday, so your day there now
and it's after the committee. There'll be interested in the
public because it's a bigger deal, but there should be.
We'll get it back as christ as we can, and
the Indian government that I with committed is trying to
get us in place as quickly as possible this year

(32:38):
so we can get those benefits of the extra stuff
that Europeans got through that most favored nation's treatment. So
it will be head down, farm up and going as
hard as we can to make your every museum it
can benefit from those free training room.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
And hand on hard When everyone sees the text. There
is nothing in there that you haven't told us that
people are going to freak out about that you will
need to.

Speaker 17 (33:00):
Explain not a single thing at all. This is a
high quality deal, similar to the others we've done. We're
being very open with the public. You know, labor have
been through it. She just about more than my lawyers have.
It feels like it is an opportunity for us to
sell to one point four billion people. India celebrating, New

(33:21):
Zealand celebrating I reckon it's a good day for New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Trade And what about the message for free trade in
the world where tariffs have taken center stage. Is there
something there for free traders as well?

Speaker 17 (33:31):
Yeah, there is with India. What we're saying to the world,
when two governments come together, we can put pen to paper.
We're going to honor the commitments in this agreement. Its
economies can grow and people are better where you get
terrifycs down. And so each country of the world has
to decide for itself what it's not to do with
parif rates. Today in New Delhi, in front of one

(33:52):
point four billion Indians, India and New Zealand have said
we're going to reduce parafrrags and grow economies together.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
All right, good stuff like well, Tom mclach who's the
Trade Minister, about to hop on a plane and head
back here where it heads to Parliament of course and
Select Committee. We'll touch on it with the Prime Minister
shortly eleven past seven. A couple of new moves to
say fuel pending. This involves trucking and freight allowing heavy
vehicles to carry more weight, opening more roads to large trucks,
permitting off peak travel. Don Brader's main fre It's managing

(34:19):
director in his back with us, darn morning to you.
Yeah morning. Does all of that make sense or not?

Speaker 14 (34:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (34:25):
It does.

Speaker 18 (34:25):
It was suggested by the industry. The devil will be
in the detail though we don't know what the max
tarnage they'll give us, where the aucs will be attached
to it and over which routes. But we can get
on with that. The vehicles are capable and we'll definitely
save diesel ondoing.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
So transporting New Zealand say we should be doing it now,
would you agree with that?

Speaker 18 (34:50):
Yeah? We've been waiting and you know the bureaucrats have
got involved, so it takes time. But we could have
done this at the moment it was suggested vehicles are capable.
Bridges on particularly State Highway one UK on Wellington is
capable of taking those vehicles. There's no reason why we

(35:10):
can't start right now.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
So are they making it more complicated than it needs
to be?

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Oh a little bit.

Speaker 18 (35:15):
I get that they've got to go through the detail
to make sure that it all joins up. The dots
will join up. But for us, at least we've got movement.
At least they are engaging and they're listening, and here
we have a decision, which is good.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Would you agree generally that supply is not the issue
in terms of fuel now it's the price or do
you still worry about supply?

Speaker 18 (35:38):
No supply worry. I mean, obviously the price is what
it is and we can't change that, and that's of concern,
there's no doubt about that. Not trying to be flipping
about the price. But supply is the biggest worry. And
you know, these sorts of initiatives to save fuel so
that we don't get to even level two or three

(36:01):
would be a good thing.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
What materially does it make difference wise? I mean, if
they could give you what you wanted now, I mean,
does it save you a fortune or what?

Speaker 18 (36:10):
It's not a fortune. But if you think about us
out of Auckland every night one hundred plus trucks, having
those all capable of taking another four or eight come
makes a big difference. So we'll move more freight with
less trucks. Take that across all of New Zealand. We've

(36:32):
got four hundred Vinyl vehicles running every night, so that's substantial.
And of course we're only one of many.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
All right, appreciate time. Put it to the Prime Minister
Don bray Main Freight managing directly with us this morning, Mike,
who's the buyer of the gifts that we give to countries?
I'd want a refund a black Caps top like what
the actual It truly shows how broke we are to
give a used top away. I think you're underestimating the
power of cricket in that particular part of the world. Mike.
If you seen NonStop Dan's review of their Newsland's business

(37:00):
elite seats, yes, I have. Let me come back to
it because it's worth talking about. Morning, Mike, I haven't
heard you mention the snooker. Yeah, well that's because I'm depressed.
Morning Mike. What's going on with the coalition news article
today with ACTMP attacking the forty million dollar events fund.
That's a good question. That's not new news. Todd Stevenson
has done it before, but he raises an interesting point,
and it's got to do with the sale GPS, the

(37:22):
latest one. But I'll come back to that as well
in the moment.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
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Speaker 2 (37:30):
At b sixteen past seven are Royal Tour Stateside underway,
first of its contents two thousand and seven, aim basically
at reinforcing the UK US tires. Robert Jobson is Royal
commentator for this tour in Washington, DC's back with Us,
morning Mate, Good morning. Do you think by the end
of the week anything material will change with this particular
visit to the States?

Speaker 3 (37:52):
I hope so, I hope that the President and the
King would come to some sort of understanding, particularly about
the way he talks about the British troops and after all,
the and that tron it away includes all troops under
the King's auspices, because I thought some of the things
that were said, and I think the King and people

(38:12):
closely were a little upset about the insults that were
sort of panning around about the Royal Navy and things
like that. Was you know, that was a bit too much,
I think. And I think I'm sure he'll just gently
reminded President Trump that you know a lot of people,
a lot of people from the armed forces of Great Britain,
New Zealand, Australia, Canada shed blood, shed blood on the

(38:35):
fields of defeating Nazism. And I think that he might
get a general general history lesson on that one.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
It probably it probably helps that Trump seems to love
the king.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
It probably helps that he sort of loved the late
Queen as most people did. It probably helps that he's
got respect for the Royal family in particularly and now
the king because of his mom was Mary was of Scottish.
It was Scottish, you know, she was a Scottish immigrant
from the Highlands. And I'm sure that she would have

(39:09):
passed on some of that that Scottish Highland wisdom to him.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
How much I mean optics are important in these sort
of trips. Given what happened in America over the weekend,
how much of vets still the news story versus what
the royal family would hope for it to be.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
I think it is the new story at the Timonian
time and still being discussed on the television channels. Not
surprising as most of the people that are doing those
shows who are actually at the event. I mean, I
would say that it's been it's been given quite a
lot of traction. That's beyond brutally holist about it is

(39:51):
that the security services were fairly successful in the end.
I know, they took a bullet. One of them took
a bullet. It was very a vest but he got
we're near the president and the people.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
In that room.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
So look, it was a dramatic moment, but actually, as
assassination terms went, it didn't really touch the sides. It
never really got that very close. But look, it's still
a major issue, and I think it's beginning. It has
so far overshadowed the visit. But the King, you know,
we'll just start doing what he wants to do, really
and just impress upon Trump some of the points he

(40:26):
wants to make.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
All right, well, go well with it, and he's there.
It t all Thursday. Robert Jobson out of Washington, d C.
They landed. I can't remember for half an hour ago
something like that. Todd Blanche is giving an update on
the shooting over the weekend or the attempted assassination attempt
over the weekend. There is nothing new to report. If
there is, we will let you know as soon as
we know. Seven twenty.

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twenty four small myth busting exercise for you. The smalling
things aren't as bad as you might think. Business sales
I'm reading about those over the weekend are small and
medium businesses. The business sales are up, and they're up
quite a lot twenty one percent. In fact, why would
you buy a business at a time like this? Eh?
You know why? Because life goes on and people have
dreams and those dreams don't get buffeted about by fiscal uncertainty.

(42:25):
There were twenty seven thousand confidentiality agreement signed in the
past year. That's a lot of agreements for an average
of eight hundred thousand dollars. You can buy your dream.
Values are up, listings are up, demand is up. Demand
is up more than listing, so prices are holding and
the returns multiple is up as well. So a lot
of people are doing fine, Thank you very much. This
is a nation, of course, built on small businesses. And

(42:47):
all these numbers show is nothing's going to change it,
not a war, not petrol, not an election, not the weather.
If you ran a poll and asked is it a
good time to buy a business, like they ask is
it a good time to buy a major household item?
You know what the answer. You know what the answer
would be. And yet life goes on. Now for all
the New Zealand First supporters about to text me and say, oh,

(43:08):
it's all the Indians, save your twenty cents, It isn't
another myth busted. Nine point seven percent are Indians, fifteen
percent are Asians, so Chinese Koreans may be Filipinos, which
leaves sixty seven percent identifying as European. So the idea
that this is all about migrants buying jobs is not
The tsunami you thought it might be. These stats I

(43:28):
think are a microcosm, or a small example of the
disconnect between study surveys, polls, politics and news headlines and
what's really going on. The rhythm of New Zealand life
gets buffeted about by issues of the day, the petrol prize,
the war, the spin. You know who's spending here is?
I mean, why wouldn't it. But if you believe the
polls and the stats and the national conversation as driven
by the headlines, you'd think we're at home, huddled up

(43:50):
in a corner waiting for the end of the world.
And yet we are not. We are buying businesses, planning
the future, taking the risks, and god forbid, having a
good time. What a shock ask, Yeah, bit depressed about
the snooker This morning. I got a very nice letter
from a bloke who went last year and worked me
through how he did it, and he said it's worth
every cent. You'll get memories for life. Ronnie lost. So

(44:11):
Ronnie was ahead. Ronnie was ahead six to two at
the end of the first session. This was over the weekend.
They do it over a couple of days, so he's
a head six two. Then he was a head second
session nine seven, so I thought he's home free this morning.
It didn't go well. It was exciting, it was the
match of the tournament. It was on the edge, it
was gripping, it was fantastic snooker, but unfortunately Ronnie was
on the wrong end of it. Came back to twelve,

(44:32):
all went to the decider. Higgins beat him thirteen twelve.
So that's the end of that. As for Todd Stevenson
and the forty million dollars he's suggesting this morning, this
looks increasingly like a slush fund for Louise Upstin. So
we had the Sale GP. In fact, she happened to
be on the program late last week and she said
they've got a criteria. Sale GP simply didn't match it,

(44:54):
so that money's not going to them. My concern is
twofold concern. Number one is government's involved than these sort
of events at all, especially a heavily commercialized event like
Sale GP. If Sales GP can't make money, then you
know there is an argument surely to go, well, they
don't make money, it's not our problem. And two, if
you get yourself across the line of wanting to support

(45:15):
these events, to bring them to a city for wider
economic benefit. A handful of million dollars is pocket change?
Why are we scrapping over that? But anyway, I don't
mind todt in election you're having a crack. You'd be
a purist, the fiscal purist from the ACT Party. You'd
be saying it's none of our business and we shouldn't
be into it, which then brings me sports wise up
to the business of these shoes? Was the marathon run adduced?

(45:37):
Do you reckon? Or has he got the special shoes?
Have you seen the special shoes? A thousand bucks? You
wear them once they're full of carbon? Anyway, we'll talk
more about that after eight with the sport.

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Speaker 2 (45:57):
Well, commentary, box up rate of course short in week
twenty three minutes away from eight print instances. Well, it's
very good morning to you. Good morning, Mike, how are
you very well? Indeed? Think after that Warriors when yes,
another good Warriors, when it's it's going to be a year.
I don't know if you've heard that yet, but this is.

Speaker 19 (46:10):
A ye know, well you're one of the biggest fans. Yes, exactly,
we're just wearing at the TV.

Speaker 18 (46:16):
Again.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Is there anything I asked Todd McLay this question. You'll
ask you the same thing. Is there anything in this
FTA when it gets opened up in front of a
silic committee and all the wowses and complaints and moaners
want to have a look at it, Is there anything
in there to give them some traction?

Speaker 19 (46:31):
Absolutely not. I mean I think we've we've gone through
all the conversations as we've had to have them publicly
with New Zealand first and Labor. The bottom line is
pretty straightforward. This is an incredibly good deal. It means
that I think over half hour exports from day one.
Actually a taraffrea gets up to eighty two percent once
it's been fully implemented. So no, it's a really great
deal for New Zealand and we're not going to regret

(46:52):
this at all.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Your expectation at the committee is what it sails through
or yeah, I think it will.

Speaker 19 (46:57):
I think you know, like we'll have our first reading
sched for mid May, which we'll get into the house.
Then we'll go into the select Committee process. How long
that process goes on will allow sufficient time for public consultation.
But I think you know, everyone understands this is you know,
we've done a very good deal here, and the fact
that we can get it signed as we have this
weekend also means that if any other country does any

(47:19):
better deal than us, we've got these most favored nation
clauses in there.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
So, particularly on I.

Speaker 19 (47:23):
Think Wine, we felt the Europeans might have got a
slightly better deal than us, so that means we get
that upgraded to the same deal as they have. So
there's a whole bunch of things like that. But I
think if we can get the bill to be passed
by the end of September, that would be good and
get entry into force by.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
The end of the year. Dawn Braid of Main Flight
this morning said, you probably should be doing this idea
of trucks sooner rather than later. What's the hold up?

Speaker 19 (47:47):
We just go through every just looking at every single
bit of regulation that essentially is you know, potentially getting
in the way and would be problematical if we should
move to Phase two down the road, and we just
want to make sure that we're doing everything we can
if there's any stupid regulations that again in the way,
we'll remove them. So we've actually been working with Don
and the freight team. They've given us some really good

(48:08):
in puts. We also, you know, we've actually been engaging
really well with industry on that stuff, and I think
we've got a good place on it.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
He sees the bureaucrats are getting in the way. Is
that fair or not?

Speaker 19 (48:18):
Well, I think there's a lot of there's a lot
of bureaucracy in New Zealand. It seems to have been
built up over the last twenty or thirty years that
we're trying to get rid of. But you know, this
is just common sense stuff, which is that you know,
if you can allow heavier vehicles to carry more weight,
you know that's good. Less trips require better fuel efficiency years.
I mean, others will debate whether that's going to ruin
our roads and a whole bunch of other issues, but

(48:38):
there's there's just just common sense stuff that's getting in
the way. Relatory barriers. Let's remove or suspend them so
that we can deal with getting more efficiency.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
For people well, address of weight in the road, address
the way from the road quality, because that's what's everyone's
texted about this morning? They said, what about the condition
of the roads? Is that a fair concern or not? Well,
I mean, I think you know that. I argue, we've
got a lot of potholes in the road.

Speaker 19 (49:01):
We've had a big program of renewal across our road
since then, since we came to power. You know, over
the last two years. I think we started with sixty
four thousand potholes or something from memory. We're working our
way through it and renewing our road. But I think
there are just common sense things where you know some
of the rules, for example, around you know how much
weight they can carry at what times, you know, off traveling,

(49:23):
off peak curfews, those sorts of things. We should be
open to removing those restrictions if it means more efficiency
and that we can get product around the country.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
All right, give us what's actually going on with fuel?
So Don Braid said he's still worries about supply. Nicol
Rabishenk was on the program last week. He said he's
not worried about supply supplies. Fine, I mean, obviously thesee
will be jet fuel, but nevertheless, I assume they're all
the same thing. Who's right do we have, so it's
only price. Can we have a supply or not.

Speaker 19 (49:50):
We do and we have right from day one, and
I think you know, we've been well recognized for actually
how we've handled this relative to you know, the UK
just put together a committee a bit like we've had
from day one, literally last week, so we have been
talking to our fuel importers multiple times a day since
this thing kicked off. And as I said, we are
in phase one because there is no risk to fuel

(50:11):
supply being disrupted for us. As I said, we've got
confirmed orders through to the end of May, we've got
planned orders through to June. We've got really good levels
of stocks and country. So I appreciate everyone can have
their reckons, but actually at the end of the day,
I'll take my advice from the commercially sensitive information that
has shared with us on a daily basis from the
fuel importers. There are conversations about aviation fuel, particularly in Europe,

(50:35):
but a lot of that you remember as they're going
into their peak summer season and there's massive seasonality across
Europe with respect to demand for avgas and fuel that
they'll be managing. I mentioned in European context but with
respect to petrol diesel jet, you know, we've got no signs,
no signals, no disruption to our future fuel supply. So

(50:55):
it's business as usual.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Okay. I keep asking you this each week. This is
the third time. I think the swap thing, the tickets,
all of that, is anything going to come of that
or not? Yeah?

Speaker 19 (51:04):
So yeah, And I do owe you good unswer on
that because you've been hasting to me on that every week.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Fair enough.

Speaker 19 (51:09):
The bottom line is, Look, the tank of the ninety
million tank is actually going to be available early June,
and we need to obviously time the arrival of our
fuel to go into that tank. There's no point bringing
it in any earlier. Obviously we don't even to store it,
so that storage city is available early June. We will
land our fuel in June as well, and we're very close.
We're just still working through just final commercial contractual terms.

(51:32):
As soon as we can, we'll announce that. But that
is a better option for us as to pursue these
this unsolicited bid and this commercial over and above fuel
supply than actually doing the swaps at this point. And
we think that's something we might leave for down the road.
It's a bit more complicated, but we think the real
thing is to secure the ninety million extra of diesel
over and above our current minimum standards.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
All right, the numbers from the Golden Visa last week,
they look good on a piece of paper. Is there
too much stagnant money there going into a check account
so they can buy off if they don't like it?
In other words, it's not doing what you wanted to
do now.

Speaker 19 (52:04):
It actually is like there's a lot of real businesses
that I've run into up and down the country. I
was down in christ Church actually at this country called
company called Xethos just on Friday and turning basically taking
you know, recycling critical minerals out of existing products and
it's incredible producing zinc and other things and all. And

(52:24):
actually their funding and their investment has come from I meant,
two of the active investor visas that had come out,
one from the Netherlands and I think one from Brazil,
and they have come to New Zealand put the money in,
then put more money in. So even though we've got
a minimum requirement of five or ten million dollars for
this active investor visa, many of them are putting in
two three times more once they're comfortable in the market,

(52:45):
and that's been obvious in many companies that I've seen.
So No, it's the key thing is it's going into
productive businesses. A lot of it's going up into startup
companies that want to expand with capital. And importantly, it's
not going in to speak, that bit of house flipping,
which is what was happening in the past. It's almost
fourllion dollars, Mike, I think, raised from almost six hundred people,
and if you compare that to the previous two years,

(53:05):
we've attracted only seventy million dollars versus four billion dollars.
I think it's been very successful in the fact we've
got targeted to our small businesses and startups is important.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Okay, do you have an observation of what happened with
Nikola Willis last week with Jones and Hipkins in what way? Well,
they attacked her weight almost like it was nineteen eighty
seven and they've been watching gliding on.

Speaker 19 (53:28):
Yeah, totally unacceptable and really unacceptable, and I think, you know,
it's good to see Jones apologize very.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Quickly for that, as he should have. Are they representative
of what goes on in Parliament. I would have thought
that's from a completely different time and I was surprised
at both of them. But am I just out of touch? Now?

Speaker 19 (53:47):
Look, I think it was incredibly disrespectful. As I said,
I think it's right that he apologized. I think Hipkins
kind of apologized, you know, as I'm sure you say
to your daughters, and I've said to mine, your value
is actually what you bring to the world, not on
and how you look. I think that's a pretty standard
sort of expectation. So it was right that they apologized.
But it was right also for Nicola to call it
out and for others to call it out too.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Todd an act and he's done this once before. He's
doing it again this morning over the sale GP. This
time the accusation is Upstin's it's a slush fund, the
forty million sale GP, etc. You say what, well, I.

Speaker 19 (54:19):
Mean I get criticized them on one side by saying, oh,
it's a slush fun, we shouldn't do anything and it's
corporate welfare. On the other hand, I'm getting criticized for
not supporting sale GP. So the bottom line is you
would remember is go back to six months ago. Everyone
in Auckland was pretty down saying we've got nothing going
on in this country and we put together a major
events package to make sure that we could be much
more competitive to the Australian states and actually get events

(54:41):
here to New Zealand. We obviously got very clear criteria
around it. We're not supporting sale GP, for example, because
the cost benefit didn't stack up. You know, they wanted
more money than what we had originally proposed had been
originally proposed. We'll continue to work with them, but we've
got other things like state of origin. We've got the
new tennis roof, We've got fee for coming to Auckland.
I've got this National Football Festival as well, and a

(55:02):
bunch of other stuff across the country. So I actually
think it's been really important because if we've got clear
criteria about it, it's really rooted and cost benefit analysis.
Every dollar we know we've been putting to some of
these events, we're getting back three dollars twenty of spending
in hotels restaurants and it's a pretty good feel good
factor if that comes with it too.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
The TV and Z call, I'd be remiss not to
ask you, not that I care, but the TV and
Z call is it tied and with your problems with
the state broadcaster generally or are you chicken and running
for the hills? Yeah, well I don't. I think there's
two issues. One is you know.

Speaker 19 (55:36):
One is yes, I've reset how I won engaged with
media going forward. That's no different from what previous pro
minences have done. I think Bulger canceled press conferences. I
think Key and I do made decisions about where they
would go on. I'd also say that I'm pretty accessible
compared to other Prime ministers I talk to from around
the world who don't have regular set piece media engagements.
They just do it on it as case by case

(55:56):
by kind of basis. And then there's a second issue,
which you know we have you're well aware of, which
is that you know, we respect the role of media,
but it's also important that there are some standards and
rules in Parliament and we've had an issue with tvns
D around that and we've made that clear to tvns management.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Appreciate your time. Christal b Lux from Prime Minister thirteen
to two.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
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Speaker 3 (56:19):
At B.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
A great interview of the Prime Minister to thank God
the adults are in charge. Questions answers asked and answered
as they should be, as expected from the Prime Minister. Yeah,
the breakfast thing I don't really care about. To be
perfectly honest, my understanding is because they've got no audience.
Not that optically people, if you don't want to look
at it that way, you will see it that way.
It'll look like you know, so there's a debate. I
personally wouldn't have pulled out if I was him, in

(56:43):
the sense that once you've started something, you've said a precedent.
Once you try and break the precedent, people who want
to run the narrative will run the narrative. So you know,
count win twenty two million dollars. But I mean, at
the end of the day, if there's no real and
that pub quiz thing that apparently was going on, you
know how many people in your caucus with names that
start with B. That's like I thought we'd gone past

(57:05):
that between Shane Jones, Chris Hopkins and that sort of
interviewing approach. I think we can probably do without it.
The only thing I didn't ask Prime Minster about that
I was wanting to is twenty two million dollar loan
package for the airlines. Regional Airlignes, air Chathams gets seventeen
million to refinance debt, Sounds gets four and a half
to upgrade its fleet and refinance debt An Ireland. There
two hundred and fifty two thousand dollars for fleet maintenance.

(57:27):
If you need two hundred and fifty two thousand dollars
just to maintain your fleet, you gotta be worried about
how what I'm saying is twenty two million? Is it
alone or is it twenty two million? You might like
to get back, but then again you may never see
it again, which means the government's in the business of
subsidizing business, which I'm not sure is good business at all.

(57:48):
Eight minutes away from eight the.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
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Speaker 2 (57:55):
Good piece if you didn't catch it over the weekend
by direct Ching and the Herald The Ashley Bloomfield COVID
vaccine mystery. Now, I'm not as gripped by the vaccine
aspect of life as many people appear to be, but
I am gripped by transparency and honesty and upfrontness, of
which there appears to be not a lot. So it
was Bloomfield right to Derek who received the advice. This

(58:17):
is you're well aware of this. The twelve to seventeen
year olds. The second dose the advice went to Hopkins.
He said he didn't get it until he did, and
then he said he got it, but he forgot his
public silence. He refers to Bloomfield. His public silence since
the release of the Royal Commission of Inquiry Phase two reports,
suggests at best that he has nothing to add beyond

(58:38):
that what he's already told the Commission. At worst, at
fuels speculation he has something to hide from a community
who are already angry. The advice was not implemented or
made public at the time. The Commission, after all, didn't
ask him specifically about the advice, so his views are
not in the transcripts of his interviews, which I would

(59:00):
have thought to critical point. And therefore if you're an
open and a sort of bloke, you go well, I
wasn't asked. They're not in the transcripts. Here is my view.
Numbers are interesting. They're an estimated three hundred and fifty
thousand to four hundred thousand young people in the particular
age group. At the end of twenty twenty one, about
a quarter ninety one thousand had yet to have a
second day. So you're dealing with tens of thousands of

(59:22):
young people. So this isn't a case you're dealing with
twenty people or one hundred people. You're dealing with tens
of thousand, ninety one thousand. How many suffered heart inflammation
after a second or third dose is not known definitively.
But his ongoing silence, concludes Derek, and read the whole
thing because it's lengthy, but his ongoing silence in this
matter is salt and the wounds of those who feel

(59:43):
their health, their well being and lives were needlessly disrupted. Now,
my main concern is how is it you've had two
royal commissions and you've still got questions of that seriousness
left unanswered. I mean, there's clearly something went wrong with
the commissions. Give it all along has been You didn't
drag these people in the question them. They all did

(01:00:03):
it by paper and lawyers, so there's something in that.
But good on Derek for writing it, and have a
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Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Andrew Sevil, How are you good, Mike? How are you
very well? We've just got a problem with Jason at
the moment, you can't hear, so I don't know what's
going on there. Did you how much of the christ
Church thing did you watch?

Speaker 14 (01:01:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Quite a bit.

Speaker 8 (01:01:34):
I thought it was. It was outstanding. Game changing. Came
to mind when I saw those drone shots of the
of the stadium in the evening shots of pictures of
thousands walking up to the stadium through christ Church City. Mike,
I thought it was magnificent. Great, great weekend for christ
It's thoroughly deserved after that city's been through so much,

(01:01:57):
should have been the years ago. But great to see
and the big thing for me, Mike, the icing of
the cake. It on TV. It looked fantastic. Yes, the
crowd is right on top of the sidelines. The lighting
is state of the art. Clearly it looks crisp and
light on a TV screen, which counts for a lot
these days.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Yes, it does does very emotional in christ There's a
lot of people I talk to, very emotional time for them.
It's got forsythe bar vibes to me in terms of
you know, it's got it's a similar size stadium, isn't it.
And it's got a roof and therefore it looks sort
of the same.

Speaker 8 (01:02:30):
So I mean I haven't I didn't go at the weekend,
but it looks I think it looks better because it
looks as though the fans are even closer than Forsyth Bar.
Whether that's the pitch of the grandstands or the roof
just looks more enclosed. I think Dunedin Stadium now has

(01:02:51):
has a problem with or has had a problem recently
of luring acts and luring big events, and I think
it's probably worse for them now that that Chris, you
just up and running, Jason.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
I was parked outside the Chemist Warehouse and I was
listening to you. You were down there at the pub
with your your mate from Super Rugby, waxing lyrical, and
you clearly had a time of your life.

Speaker 20 (01:03:13):
Unbelievable, Mike. Everything Andrews says is absolutely bang on. It's
a it's a wonderful venue, a great weekend. It had
a Sevens vibe to me, the way the Sevens used
to be. Everybody was wearing their colors, there was a
mood of celebration the arena. The venue is absolutely brilliant.
It is it has got a neat and vibe in

(01:03:36):
terms of how close you are. But this SAMs right.
I think the steepness of the stands. Even if you're
up in Rose or whatever they call it down there,
you're still right on top of the action. The city
was buzzing. It's walkable. Give it, give give christ your
super around for the next three years, you know, lock
it in and make it an appointment.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Well to come try and try to park your emotion
for one moment, because this, of course, as the conversation
you was entirely predictable. We should have a souper around
it should travel around the country. Was the success of
the weekend? About christ Church and its new facility versus
gathering a handful of teams together and playing some rugby?
I mean, in other words, if you do it again,
will it be the same?

Speaker 8 (01:04:16):
Well?

Speaker 20 (01:04:16):
Well, I mean quite possibly it was because it was
brand new. But I mean I feel as though, you know, what,
what is the option that you wait for a new
stadium to be built before you have souper around there?
I think you know, yeah, you say, well, it was
a great success. Let's build on it. Let's let's have
people remember what it was like there over the weekend.
People as sav says watching on television cheap as I'll

(01:04:38):
get there next year and watch my team player. I
kind of feel as though it needs to be built
on rather than just sort of written off as a
one off just because it's a new venue.

Speaker 8 (01:04:48):
Yeah, I think Super Rugby might needs to needs to
think long term and lock it in for a couple
more or three more years, assuming there's the money there
from christ churching z or what that arm of the
tourism board down there is. The biggest challenges might keep
keeping the fans, keeping the local fans engaged that went

(01:05:11):
to the games over the weekend. The Crusaders' success will
have a big bearing on that, and also the big
challenge for christ Church Stadium now is securing enough stuff
to put on in the coming year. Look look at
when Dunedin first opened. It was new, it was Chris
everyone he wanted to go, everybody wanted to stay something

(01:05:32):
there and it's fallen off in recent years and christ
Church has to ensure for them that doesn't happen because
it costs a heck of a lot of money to
run a blimen's stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Do you know something there I have not seen sab
and I thought of you as soon as I was
showing the picture of it. A twice deep fried pie.

Speaker 8 (01:05:53):
That no, I think it they caught my attention to,
and I think it's from one of the flash restaurant
he type booths at the stadium. The pie is right
and then it's put between two slices of breed.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
I think at seventeen dollars, that seemed value for money
to me very much. So what did you eat?

Speaker 20 (01:06:14):
I had? Look they brought the media some some club sandwiches, so.

Speaker 8 (01:06:19):
I had some of them.

Speaker 20 (01:06:20):
Clearly they if you would have if you would have
been a gas, you would have been a gas. Say
at what was I know? I shouldn't be I shouldn't
be tried. They looked after us, but there was no
cues for food that I could see. It was one
that you know they've worked out that people don't want
to stand in a line for twenty one minutes while
the game's on, or at a half time getting their

(01:06:41):
food and beverage. And even if you are in a queue,
there's screens up there that you watch, obviously, but thought
of a lot.

Speaker 8 (01:06:48):
You'd like to see with the design models these days,
and after all these years, you'd get it right right,
so you get the way people walk in. There's no funneling,
there's no bottlenecks in. Same with food and beverage. You
have to ensure that is designed property so that doesn't happen,
which which it sounds like it has.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
All right, brief break listen, I need to talk to
about the London Marathon on the Fury Joshua Fight two
thirteen past.

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Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Fury v. Joshua Jason, you excited it's signed the s
it's on?

Speaker 20 (01:07:33):
Yeah, yeah, back end of the year. I think Joshua's
got a comeback fight, hasn't he in Saudi Arabia? Obviously
in the middle of the year. By the sounds of it,
it's on. Eddie Hearn's come out, hasn't he and said
it's on. Put it in your diary. Do a Leaper
concert you'll enjoy that. Sav Not quite James rain No,
but due a Leaper is going to perform on.

Speaker 8 (01:07:56):
Is it on Netflix?

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Netflix?

Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Netflix, I've got.

Speaker 8 (01:07:58):
On ok okay, so that's all part of your package.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Yeah, it's free. I watched the fight the other day
with Fury. That was free. I mean, at some point
they're going to have to start charging, aren't they, Because
I mean, what's the point of doing live sport if
you can't make people.

Speaker 8 (01:08:11):
Yeah, a lot of people will look forward to it.
There's there's been a fair amount of beef between the
two over the years. It usually Fury is a colorful character, Joshua.
People love them, will hate them. I cannot believe there's
one person in the world who I'd pick not to
enjoy Home with the Furies, and it's you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
But you are apparently absolutely immersed. It's such. It's honestly,
if you get past the frippery, of which.

Speaker 8 (01:08:35):
Remind you of your own household, it's not far removed
from your own house.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Not dissimilar. But there are some quite moving there's a
that's that wonderful combination. There's some quite moving moments and
some just outrageously funny moments, mainly from the kids, and
so it's it's it really is a lot of the.

Speaker 8 (01:08:53):
Time he's well, he's a well thought out bloke and
gets quite emotional, right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Yes he does, and and you and you see, you
see what made him, It wouldn't have the same cutos.
I don't think if he wasn't who he was. I mean,
he's one of the greatest sportsmen ever.

Speaker 8 (01:09:07):
There's anyone else to be boring, right exactly, And so so.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
It is well worth watching now as far as you're consumed, say,
have the one hour fifty nine thirty? Is that for
real or not? Really?

Speaker 8 (01:09:19):
Yeah, well it has to be obviously because he's got
the time. I don't know about the running shoes. Have
we gone too far? What are their ninety grams?

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Yeah, ninety nine grams.

Speaker 8 (01:09:29):
The thing is, if I put those on, I wouldn't
be running.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
You run faster, you'd run faster. You wouldn't do one,
you wouldn't do one fifty nine.

Speaker 8 (01:09:36):
But if they weighed, if they weighed ninety grams and
I put them on, I'd blow them out on the
first teen meters.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
But you wear them once. See, I don't know if
people understand that you pay your thousand bucks with these shoes.
They've got carbon in the bottom, so they spring you forward.
You wear them once and then you throw them away.

Speaker 8 (01:09:51):
They're obviously legal, of.

Speaker 20 (01:09:52):
Course, but they obviously work. I mean if he's run there,
But did you see the bloke who came second.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Yeah, that's that's where it goes out yearly dodgy.

Speaker 20 (01:10:01):
Yeah. Imagine coming home and saying and saying to your partner,
I went under two hours for the marathon and they said, oh, well,
congratulations you won the race. Well I didn't, actually.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Well, and that was his first day of marathon. That's
the that's the really weird. I mean, I'm assuming the
guy was running other distances and stuff like that.

Speaker 8 (01:10:19):
It was probably probably inevitable, though, wasn't it beating going some.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
They did the maths, it's it's twenty one ks an hour,
I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:10:29):
Fifty was it two or three minutes fifty for a k?

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Yeah, forty two times you're virtually sprinting.

Speaker 20 (01:10:37):
Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy how how fast
they are going over such a long distance. We had
the blog that did it under controlled conditions, didn't we
a couple of years ago. Yeah, but this was in
a competitive thing. I mean, surely it can't just be
the shoes. Yes, they might help you out but they're
not going to put They're not going to, you know,
shave five minutes off your time, aren't they.

Speaker 8 (01:10:58):
You still have to be I think you have to
be Jason to run there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
It's yeah, and you have to be reasonably good at
running just in general.

Speaker 8 (01:11:10):
Just a tip GM.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
My highlight, if Ronnie had one, would have been my highlight,
but he lost. It's not my highlight anymore. But my
highlight of the weekend was Friday, particularly carried over Saturday,
but my highlight on Friday was the NFL Draft. And
you you cannot overstate the life changing emotion involved with

(01:11:33):
these guys being picked. You know, like it's like they're
all sitting there and they're all got the bling and
the families there on the sofa, and then you know,
coach McDermott rings up and he goes, do you want
to be what? And they just like, it's amazing to watch,
and it's in front of tens of thousands of people
as well, goes on for two days.

Speaker 8 (01:11:50):
Who's coach McDermott.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Well, you know, I'm just it doesn't matter who coach
McDermott is. I'm just saying there are coaches ringing up,
changing young men's lives.

Speaker 8 (01:12:00):
I saw a clip a very emotional young man. He
played for the Navy football team, and they hardly ever
get drafted, those military, the players and the military teams.
And he got drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's from Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
He was in tears. Exactly who life is?

Speaker 8 (01:12:15):
Challenge for TV?

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Just like that, the guy, Now, see what would you do?
Jason so Mendoza, who was the number one pick? He's
gone to the Raiders, who are the most useless side
in the NFL by so far, it doesn't matter. So
you're the man, and you would want to go to
a team, and yet the useless side pick here, so
you're stuck with them. So what do you do?

Speaker 20 (01:12:33):
Well, that's how the draft works, isn't it. The bottom
side gets the number one pick, so the best player
normally goes to the to the worst team.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
But you want to get out of there, wouldn't you?

Speaker 8 (01:12:43):
Over the years has been the odd holdout, hasn't there
where they don't sign and there's all sorts of pilava.

Speaker 12 (01:12:48):
And who ha.

Speaker 8 (01:12:49):
But I would imagine I could think of worse places
to be for young men. In his early twenties, making
millions in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
I suppose yes, sir, all right, nice to see you guys.
Does it make you want to take up running those
sap when you see that.

Speaker 8 (01:13:03):
I took my I wasn't in Crass. I took my
talents or lack of it, to the far North and
had Anzac Day in Kaitaia on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Mic it was it was good times.

Speaker 14 (01:13:11):
It was a great good time.

Speaker 8 (01:13:12):
Yeah you up, yes, very early up at four good
just come a great remembrance service put on by the
local local people. And yeah it was a great day.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Good stuff. Lest we forget Andrew C. L. Jason Pie.

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Imagine my surprise after channel surfing this weekend. I came
across the snooker and never watched it before in my
fifty year life. My partner knows the rules, talk me
through it as we watched. Crikey. You don't see that

(01:14:38):
word written down often cri key exciting. I'm hooked. I'm surprised.
But when I say I'm surprised, that's a person saying surprised.
I'm hooked. I'm surprised, but I can see why you
love it so much. I was watching a frame running
for over forty minutes. They're not my favorite sort of frames,
to be honest. That's normally playing a bit of defensive snooker.
But nevertheless, I'm thrilled that you've discovered it. I'm thrilled

(01:14:58):
that you love it and have I might say, having
gone straight to the table post watching over the weekend.
It does materially improve your game because you've adjusted psychologically
to circumstances and you can believe you are Ronnie and
just for a fleeting moment there you play some half
deeps and snooker.

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Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
Togs Head be.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Well, he might want positive regarding Mendoza going to Vegas,
as he will be guided by Brady throughout the early
stages of his pro career. That's true. And they've got
what's my favorite quarterbacks named Kirk Kirk Cousins, so he'll
play for a couple of years and then numb and days.
It's just you know, when you're starting out and the
end the number one pick do you want to be?
I mean if you had an indication the side was

(01:15:48):
going to transform and it was actually going places, then
maybe it would be different. Mike No mention of the
Mighty Warriors and the sports run up. Yeah no, I
mean there's more sport going on than I had time
to deal with the day. And can I be frank
The Warriors win was a good win and all wins
are good wins when it comes to the Warriors, and
yes this is our year, but if you can't beat
someone like the Dolphins, then you know, once you get

(01:16:11):
into a point where the team wins consistently and on
a regular basis, it's just what you would expect as
opposed to being, you know, one out of the box.
Twenty three to nine.

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Speaker 14 (01:16:29):
But we go Rod morning, to you make good by,
to you make Do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
We read anything into the Hoyle statement the speaker? Of course,
there is potentially a vote because we had that big
sort of starmer was ropable the other day with Hoyle
and now Hoyle says this or as Hoyle played a
straight back to his speaker, and any speaker would have
called a boat.

Speaker 14 (01:16:48):
He's praying a straight bat. But it's still the truth
that Starbar is not out of it, or any when
they're out of it. There are still problems to be
resolved about how he dealt with the House of Commons, which,
of course, the House of Commons since is far more
important than how he dealt with the country. And you know,

(01:17:10):
there is still an enormous, rancorous backbench of the Labor Party,
and indeed within his own cabinet, which wishes to see
him go. And so for the last weekend, this last weekend,
he's been closeted in checkers with his allies. Truth be told,
I don't know who they are. It has got so

(01:17:34):
bad that I genuinely don't know who they are trying
to work out how to fight on as a prime minister. Meanwhile,
Angela Rayner and Ed miliband Ed miliband first, by the way,
he will be the first to run a circling as
is Westreet.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Is he is Millerband a trojan horse in that sense,
or would he be a genuine contender as I read
about hin.

Speaker 14 (01:18:02):
He'd be a real candidate. He can counter up. I
was talking to a labor friend, a labor MP recently.
He can conter up immediately what eighty to one hundred
MPs in support of him? In support of his The
only energy we should use should be drawn from the

(01:18:25):
disguised furs of otters. You know what I mean? This
would be Britain taking a walk back into nineteen ninety two.
So he is probably the most important of all of
the three possible rivals. He is the one who is
most likely to win. And if that's the.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Case, oh lord, so how does this work out? Do
they have a debate before they had the vote? And
which way does the vote go? And if he loses
the voters in front of the committee, do.

Speaker 14 (01:19:00):
You mean Starmar next week? I think I think Starmar
next week gets through it. He tends to get through
things largely because he had a copious knowledge of legal
procedure and he knows what to say to get through
these things. So my guess is that he continues towards

(01:19:20):
the May elections, which are coming up in two weeks
time and in which his party will be absolutely decimated
at the polls, and then there will be another challenge
to his leadership. But he has survived so many challenges
to his leadership so far.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
You know.

Speaker 14 (01:19:40):
That's the thing people forget. Is quite good at atting
this stuff off. And so it may well be that
when you and I talk in three years time, Mike,
he's still there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Now. The big visit. He arrived an hour or so back,
and given what happened over the he can. Of course
they are more occupied with the events of the Hilton
than they are about the Royal visit. But presumably this
is soft power, and he will be looking to improve
relations between the US and the UK.

Speaker 14 (01:20:10):
Yeah, it's soft power in its absolute max. There is
no question that Donald Trump loves the attention of the
Royal family rather more than he loves the attention of
Sekit starbar As. You and I would both agree, it's
a reasonable decision. But there is no doubt that he

(01:20:33):
has a residual affection Trump for the UK, which is
based upon its history, you know, and the Royal family
is an important part of that. This is a crucial meeting,
more crucial than some are making out. It will needially
get rid of their arguments about Great Britain and the

(01:20:54):
Falkland Islands. I mean, I don't think that was ever
a real runner, but it may nudge the US closer
to the UK when it comes to dealing with the
straights of Forbers.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
All right, you go, well, we'll see you Thursday. Other
thing I can tell you about these are e mandleson
and of course the potential vote. One of the key
figures a guy called Ian Collard, who's a civil servant
who ran the security team within the department. He was
sequested or asked to appear before the appropriate committee to

(01:21:27):
know this whole business of why Manderson didn't fail and
who did or didn't tell the Prime Minister anyway, he
made the decision to decline the request and so he'll
be giving evidence via writing. He was the official who
briefed the then Foreign Bosser Olie, who got sacked the
other day about the uk SV the UK's security vetting
recommendation not to give clearance. So he'll be doing it
by a writing which is very very crucificus. The other

(01:21:50):
thing I can tell you about is Claire's. All their
standalone shops in the UK and Ireland have stopped trading.
They've gone into administration twice in a year one hundred
and fifty four stores. This is the high Street. The
British High Street story is a disaster. One hundred and
fifty four stores, thirteen hundred staff. The concessions three hundred
and fifty concessions will remain open, but they do the
jewelry and the bracelets. And we've all had our eesps

(01:22:10):
to Clear's, but they're being beaten by shine and temil.
And that's how it goes. Seventeen to two.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
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Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
I almost had a perfect weekend. I had because where
I was it was clear, it was sunny, it was
no wind, it was crisp in the morning, mild in
the afternoon. It was just glorious. And we'd had some
work done at the place, still having some work done
at the place. We seem to have a lot of
work done at the place in the country, and none
of that's bad. I quite like work being done at
the place in the country. What happens generally is that

(01:22:47):
when certain work gets done, at some point, the contractor
potential contractor will say something along the lines of we'll
need to get a digger, and so that's fine until
my wife we were wandering around the property looking at
all the work was being done in the country, and
she said, and she she doesn't drink, as you know,
at all, so it wasn't that She said the words,

(01:23:10):
do you think we should buy a digger? And I
thought to myself, why this says to be come?

Speaker 9 (01:23:16):
This is becoming an orchestrated campaign against your your sanity.
She teases you with the electric car thing. I think
a couple of weeks ago, that's true. And now she's
saying you can buy a digger.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
But to be fair to her on this, anyone who's
male knows what those words mean, because until that particular point,
I'd never can. I mean, everyone wants a digger, but
no one has a digger. But I thought, just for
that moment, I could be the owner of a digger.
And so what's the first thing. We abandoned the walk

(01:23:48):
immediately and went inside to search up how much a
digger costs. Turns out that quite expensive. To the point,
which is, to be fair to her, she didn't curtail it.

Speaker 20 (01:23:58):
I did.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
At that price, there's no point in owning a digger,
she said earlier on would you drive it? I said,
how hard can it? Be so those words could have
come back to haunt me at a later stage, but nevertheless,
it came to a point where I looked at the
price of a digger and I thought.

Speaker 9 (01:24:14):
That thereby passing her devious little test, well done.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Do you think that's what it was. The other thing
I am getting, though, and you'll be pleased to know
this as a result of some other work, is I'm
getting a fountain. And because my camp my conifers are dying,
they've got canker, and I've got a beautiful stand of
conifers and they've got canker. And I want to explain
what canker is. If you don't know, it doesn't really matter.
It means that when they get it, they die. There's
nothing you can do about canker. So what I decided

(01:24:43):
visually in my mind is, once all these conifers die,
there's a stand of conifers in a circle, and I'm
going to bulldoze all the conifers, and I'm going to
leave the circle and in the center of the circle,
I'm going to place a fountain. And that's going to
be super exciting, which will go with my lake fountain,
and which I'm also installing. So you've got a lake
your need, and.

Speaker 9 (01:25:02):
You'll light it up like I like going to like
know like the Belazio or the bersh Kalitha No or
New Plymouth. No, you have it all set off and
going to music every night. Now people from the surrounding
areas to come.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
And be low low rise water in the lake, you know,
just to sort of moving by, so more of a
rote sort of a very much like it. Whereas up
up the top by the conifers, where the conifers were,
I'm going to have an italianate fountain with lots of water,
and that could well be lit up. So there's see,
there's ebbs and flows on the weekend. So I will
have fountains, but I won't have a digger. So wins

(01:25:36):
and losses and still no just chicking, still no EV,
still no EV.

Speaker 9 (01:25:39):
What about an electric digger?

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
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purchase ever. It's a small one point two ton, but
you can do so much with it. Took me about
forty operating hours to go from idiot to good enough
to be a professional. Thank you, Dean. See that's encouraging.

(01:26:54):
I'm encouraged by that. Forty hours a lot, isn't it
a couple of sticks? How hard can it be updown
left right, Mike, I've got a new one point seven.
See one point seven, which once you start looking at
one point two is where you go. I wouldn't mind
a one point seven. You can use fifty dollars. Fifty
four dollars an hour includes fuel. That's not bad?

Speaker 8 (01:27:13):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Take one for a test run. See if you're any good,
See if you enjoy it. I think the dream's gone
five minutes away from nine trending now.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
With him square house, you're one stuff for Mother's Day.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Fragrancesy, you were showing me this when she wasn't saying
should we buy a digger? She was showing me this
online because she's on social media and I'm not. But
as we I happen to be watching the Trump thing
live because I wanted to see. I thought it was unusually.
He was turning up. I thought, why are you turning up?
And are you funny? And I know people write the
stories and jokes for them, but I thought, can you
you know, is this going to be a thing anyway?

(01:27:47):
Before you knew it, the whole thing was off. So
I happen to be watching an unfold and there were
a number of weird and wonderful things happening, not least
of which was a number of networks had a tremendous
amount difficulty in finding a reporter to go on air,
which I thought was the weirdest thing going given I mean,
Fox must have had like one hundred people there and
they got about the same person Wolf Blitzer was. He
was there. He was on CNN for about three hours straight,

(01:28:07):
and I think, is there no one else from seeing
inn there at all? Anyway? Does a claim that the
whole thing is a stitch up?

Speaker 23 (01:28:15):
I was sitting next to Caroline Lovett, the Press Secretary's husband.
He was one of our guests. He was CD's right
next to me, and you know, right as the dinner
was starting, you know, the national anthem happened, and then
he kind of leaned over and said, you know, I
watched Jo on TV did a great job. You need
to be very safe. And he was very serious when

(01:28:36):
he said that to me, and he kind of looked
around the room and he.

Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
Said, you know, there are some.

Speaker 20 (01:28:47):
Sounds like we lost to Aisha's phone there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
So the whole thing was staged. And that's before you
get to all the posts from all the right wing
social media accounts, they all say so. First of all,
it was stage because of his low poll numbers, and
you need an assassination attempt to boost his poll numbers.
But then from the right wing came the slew of
posts less than two minutes after it happened, before anyone

(01:29:15):
knew any details about the whole thing. And then if
you followed it, the whole thing by the time he
got back to the White House and he fronted the
press a couple of hours later. The first thing you
mentioned was, of course, the ballroom. And you never really
liked the Washington Hilton. You know, it's not that secure,
and you just it's we need the White House ballroom.

(01:29:39):
That White House ballroom looking better and better. You better
never again hear a peat from anyone complaining about the
White House ballroom. So there conspiracy theories on the right,
and this conspiracy theory is on the left. And that's
modern America, unfortunately for you. Back tomorrow morning from six

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